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#124 Captain Fantastic - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 18m·analyzed·Jan 27, 2025
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TL;DR

Classic Pinball Podcast discusses Captain Fantastic design and gameplay mechanics.

Summary

George and Dave discuss classic pinball machines, focusing extensively on Captain Fantastic by Williams. Topics include EM magnetism issues, pinball machine leveling, the Pinball Resource's Steve Young, and various acquisition and marketplace stories. The episode features listener mail and personal anecdotes about restoring games and navigating secondary market platforms.

Key Claims

  • Captain Fantastic was produced in over 16,000 units

    medium confidence · Dave states this during gameplay discussion of Captain Fantastic

  • Designer Majak used the bottom playfield design from Captain Fantastic and repurposed it for Harlem Globetrotters

    medium confidence · Dave explains the relationship between the two games' designs during the Captain Fantastic segment

  • Residual magnetism in EM coils can cause balls to stick together in modern machines with magnets

    high confidence · Dave explains this technical issue and the mylar solution in detailed technical segment

  • Steve Young at Pinball Resource has been serving customers for 20+ years with hard-to-find parts

    high confidence · Article quoted featuring customer Levi Levy who has been ordering from Young for over 20 years

  • Karl's Sausage Kitchen in Chicago closed and was sold for the property

    high confidence · George discovered this via boston.com news feed, mentioned as related to previous discussion of Mike Engel

  • Dave Golden has spent a couple thousand dollars at Pinball Resource since 2018 and volunteers at the Electromagnetic Pinball Museum

    high confidence · Article quoting Dave Golden about his experience as customer and museum volunteer

  • Playfield slope should be between 6-7% for ramp games and around 5% for classic Bally-Stern machines

    medium confidence · Dave discusses leveling adjustments while working on his Mata Hari machine

  • 8 Ball Deluxe is Bally's best solid-state game according to Dave's assessment

    low confidence · Dave's opinion in response to listener Anthony's question about which Stern or Bally to buy

Notable Quotes

  • “residual magnetism. You got something for me? Yes. It'll bite you in the ass because you'll think it's, especially on an EM, the... Are you going to define what residual magnetism is? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So it's on a coil stop on a lot of these EMs, they'll become magnetized and so what you'll think is like a sticky mechanism”

    George and Dave @ ~20:00-25:00 — Technical deep-dive on EM machine maintenance issues and solutions, educational for restoration community

  • “I almost always call in my orders and talk to Steve. Very, very, very good and bold. It's always informative and interesting.”

    Dave Golden (quoted in article) @ ~45:00 — Customer testimonial about Pinball Resource service and Steve Young's expertise

  • “He's got the stuff, the knowledge and the personality. And he said, I also get my stuff overnight since it's so close.”

    Levi Levy (quoted in article) @ ~50:00 — Endorsement of Pinball Resource's proximity advantage and service quality

  • “Fathom plays way more often than Skateball. If I had to narrow it down to two for your next acquisition out of your list I'd go for Quicksilver and 8 Ball Deluxe.”

    Dave @ ~65:00 — Game recommendations showing Dave's preferences for solid-state machines

  • “8 Ball Deluxe, I just think it's a better overall game because it can be punished. It's a good game too... 8 Ball Deluxe, you might have a couple bad games, bad balls, but sooner rather than later you're going to get into a groove, it's enjoyable, still challenging”

    Dave @ ~70:00 — Detailed game analysis explaining why 8 Ball Deluxe is considered superior for playability and progression

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Signals

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    design_philosophy: Designer Majak repurposed playfield bottom from Captain Fantastic for Harlem Globetrotters, suggesting deliberate design iteration and refinement between games

    medium · Dave explains that Majak 'got a redo with Harlem' and used the same arcs and layout from Captain Fantastic but improved it with spinner and other features

  • ?

    operational_signal: Pinball Resource operates successful long-term customer relationships (20+ years) through direct phone contact and personal service rather than e-commerce

    high · Multiple customer testimonials (Levi Levy, Dave Golden) emphasize Steve Young's direct involvement in orders and the value of personal contact

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Captain Fantastic uses lit green rollovers as primary bonus mechanism rather than drop targets, representing different design approach to scoring

    medium · Dave explains Captain Fantastic bonus system is 'obscure' and relies on 'lit green rollovers to get bonus points' while drop targets only unlock extra ball

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    collector_signal: Clear preference hierarchy among similar Bally solid-state games (8 Ball Deluxe preferred over Flash Gordon and Skateball), suggesting playability/progression mechanics matter more than theme

    medium · Dave recommends 8 Ball Deluxe because 'you might have a couple bad games, bad balls, but sooner rather than later you're going to get into a groove' vs Flash Gordon punishing gameplay

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Residual magnetism in modern machines with magnets causes ball clustering in trough during multiball (50 games or less before issue appears), solved with plastic insert

Transcript

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the The classic pinball podcast. My name is George and his name is Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. Happy new year. It's January and people are either talking about their dry January or they're talking about their new diet. But I think most people are talking about the weather. What do you say? I'd say talking about the election and uh... Oh geez, you stepped on it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, bad. Stepped right on it. Stepped right on it. Bad, bad. Penalty walks through. James, okay, so I can't believe it snowed in New Orleans and in Panama City on the panhandle. It's all like, I said, it's all like global warming obviously, George. Um, no. It's not? We're not, we're not, we're not talking about that. We're not talking about that. Okay. Now, when you woke up this morning, whatever that was, how cold was it at your house? What time was that? What time was that at your house? I think around 12. Oh really? I would have thought colder. It was 7 here. Wow. No, you guys are in the cold belt now. We've swapped. Now we have the balmy weather. You guys are stuck with the cold. You know, it was so cold, I saw a chicken with a cape on. You know, gang bangers are texting drive-bys. I saw a snowman with a hoodie. And you know what? I saw a lawyer put his hand in his own pocket. Oh. A little levity to get things going. Nice. Very nice. Okay, I have no more cold jokes. Do you want me to jump into some of the topics? The first one involves you, and I hope you have this readily available. I want you to tell our audience about your letter to the Twippies. Oh, letter to the Twippies. Do I have that? Did you write it down and I say it or what? I forget. I thought you wrote to the Twippies complaining about their enumeration system and how they Well, tallying votes and putting people on the docket, etc. I will. I if you're not prepared for this, I went to look for it. I couldn't find it, but you definitely went off on it because I sent you a link to it or I send you a copy or what? I don't know. Because I know I know I know I very at least at least I I voted in the twippies. I think I voted and that's where I put my stuff in. Oh, OK. I think that's what I did. Yeah, some of the mod makers or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I voted. Let's see. Oh, okay. I thought you were going off on the Twippies. Oh, no, no, no, I think I just, let's see, did I write it here? No, I don't think I, no, I didn't write it down. I just basically just said, hey, I wrote a bunch of crap. No, I was making it grander than it was. Yes. Okay, here comes something from the last show. Okay. Our listener Scott from upstate New York. Scott, you know who you are. You've been on this program before. We were talking about road kings and talk about us not having memories. I think the audience already knows that. We talked about road kings. Do you remember this? I... sort of. He even wrote to you. You don't even remember the email he wrote to us? I kind of do. But not exactly. I get a lot of emails. I'm like Santa.
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high · Dave provides detailed technical explanation of how ball magnetization occurs and practical mylar/plastic solution for World Cup Soccer and similar machines

  • ?

    venue_signal: Karl's Sausage Kitchen in Chicago, mentioned in context of Mike Engel (likely a pinball venue), has closed and been sold for property

    medium · George reports closure via boston.com news, notes 'end of an era' in relation to previously discussed location

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    market_signal: E-commerce platforms like Poshmark create shipping delays and poor customer service, driving users to credit card disputes and brand distrust

    medium · George's 4-week shipping delay and chatbot runaround led to American Express card dispute resolution; hosts prefer Pinside marketplace due to 'filter'

  • ?

    community_signal: Active listener base participates in game recommendations, technical discussions, and shares restoration projects; hosts maintain detailed knowledge of listener collections and needs

    high · Multiple named listeners (Anthony, Scott, Dave Golden, Grant) with specific machine collections and technical questions discussed in detail by hosts

  • ?

    operational_signal: Pinball machines require precision slope adjustment (5-6% for classic, 6-7% for ramps); modern extended leveling legs (pin steps) allow extreme slopes but risk playability

    medium · George discusses re-leveling Mata Hari, notes Australian listener using two-inch levelers maxed out front and back, hosts discuss 'sweet spot' between 5-7%

  • ?

    product_concern: Captain Fantastic appears to be missing a spinner feature that designer Majak would later include as standard in Harlem Globetrotters

    low · Dave states 'There should be a spinner in this game. He missed putting a spinner in this game' and contrasts with Harlem Globetrotters design

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Steve Young at Pinball Resource maintains 20+ year customer relationships through personal service model, contrasts with impersonal e-commerce platforms

    high · Both Levi Levy (20+ years) and Dave Golden (since 2018) cite personal connection with Young and direct communication as key value proposition

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Captain Fantastic had high production volume of 16,000+ units, suggesting popular and accessible game in its era

    medium · Dave states 'They made a crap ton of them. They made over 16,000 of these' while noting he rarely sees them in current market

    • 4:38
    Okay, so let me remind you. He reminded me and then I said, oh yeah, I do remember this. You actually opened the coin door up on this game and opened it up to show Scott something that he needed to know about adjusting a switch. Does that ring a bell? That rings a bell.
    5:01
    It's not going to be one of these, is it? It's not going to be like this. Oh boy. Okay, so we'll continue because now I think I already know the answer to question three. But question two is, he val- and that's not- it's more an observation. He validated- remember the Mitchell Lighting thing? I got to talk about it. Yeah. Mitchell Lighting, yes. I remember that. We're going to talk about that later. I saw the light. But we'll come back to that. Yeah. So he talked about Mitchell Letty and how much people who collect EMs really love his 3x product. So I guess I was a little late to the party, but I still love mine. I think they're great. Anyway, now here comes the third thing, and I think I already know the answer. Do you remember him asking for assistance with a Stern Stars chime box? Stern Stars chime box. Oh boy. No. Remember this one. Oh boy. I remember you talking about chime boxes and we were getting confused. I sent him the links to the two that I knew, but I think he was looking for a Dr. Dave perspective, not a George, hey, send me the ads and tell me what you think. So I think- Did I get this email? Yes, you got this email. Okay. Scott, send an email. I know you're going to listen to this. Send Dave an email reminder of the email that you sent originally. I'll see if I can find it, if I remember. So there's that. Oh boy, this is not going very well. I'm looking right now. This is something you should remember. Okay. Now you did write this to me and said, I want to talk about this in the next show. Residual magnetism. You got something for me? Yes. It'll bite you in the ass because you'll think it's, especially on an EM, the... Are you going to define what residual magnetism is? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So it's on a coil stop on a lot of these EMs, they'll become magnetized and so what you'll think is like a sticky mechanism, like a plunger link or a plunger going into something like on a stepper and it's not releasing all the way, you're going to chase your tail and think また composed 10408889 So, the fix for it is to take a little piece of mylar, put that over the metal part that it gets in contact with, it's being magnetized, and that is enough of a cushion that it won't be magnetized any longer. But yeah, that's what that is. How does it become magnetized in the first place? Because you have a coil that's an electromagnet and it is getting in touch with a relay, sucking it next to it when it turns on and holding it there for quite a while sometimes. And so that's like taking a screwdriver into a coil and turn it on. It magnetizes your screwdriver. You can magnetize your pair of pliers or whatever, which I have done by accident and, you know, I'm going to go near a screw it attaches to your pair of pliers you know so this happens in in games as well mostly EM stuff because they're these relays are they're mostly made for Williams games even the modern Williams games some have these relays still even though you know ramp game in a 90s ramp game will have them but mostly the EM stuff and it'll be like a little relay plate and coil I'm going to take this to modern sterns that have magnets. That ball sits on that magnet for a period of time. Over time or life of that ball being in the machine, that too gets magnetized. Oh yeah, case in point on the World Cup Soccer I had, that uses, especially when the magnet is on for a long period of time and not just a quick on-off so it flings the ball, it just sits there. What will happen is, especially in a multiball game, it'll magnetize the ball and you play maybe 50 games or less and then you'll wonder why the trough is full of, I don't know, four, five, six balls or whatever the game has. Because they can't get out because they're all linked together. Yeah, they're all linked together. They're all holding on together. They're all cuddled up together. They're not like going forward and getting kicked out because they're all stuck. We thirst for your great ideas the Price Point Byiece c. This is chrome versus carbon steel, I think the two different types. I think the chrome are nice and shiny and the carbon steel are not quite as shiny or vice versa. I figure it's one of those. So one gets magnetized easily, one does not. You can take this piece of plastic that goes in the trough that someone made for it and it kind of tucks in it like a big snake tongue and it goes in there and now the ball sits on top of this plastic and now it can't really have a place to really readily just sit there We're going to be magnetizing and not go forward. Now the plastic kind of makes it enough so that it overcomes any magnetism. It just rides on the plastic, goes where it's got to go. Okay, next item. Bravo. You made a man halfway around the world very happy with that hat. Ah, Grant. A beautiful picture from our friend Grant in Australia. That was quite nice. He sent me part of an email you probably didn't read, a product or maybe he just sent it to me because he wanted me to put it on, some kind of leveler app. I don't know. Oh, no, I saw that app. I saw that. Yeah, did you download it? No, because I already have that already. I have it. It's a Swiss Army knife in Android. It has that thing already as part of it. Okay, well, if people are looking for it, it's from some guy named Pin Guy, easy enough ED gave Director Kai
    12:33
    Let me finish. Because he had two-inch levelers all the way down on the front and all the way up on the back. That's as high as you can get it with a two-inch leveler? Say that again? He has a two-inch leveler on the back and what's on the front? Two-inch levelers all around. Two in front, two in back. Yeah. He had the ones in the front all the way lowered, so in the lowest setting. Okay. And he had the ones in the back at the highest setting. Okay. valuable We found out that fitness plus shows were best selling after the recent And then some people are now buying those, I don't even know what the hell they're called, pin steps I think they're called, that'll take your back legs up even higher so you get the height, you know, the longest pinball leg you can get. You can now put another inch or inch and a half on the bottom for, you know, super slow. Yeah, at some point it becomes ridiculous because... I agree. And I'm only bringing it up because I was re-leveling my Mata Hari. I had, I replaced them because it didn't have enough slope. Now I have, I think, too much slope, but it makes it for a more difficult game. I'm trying to figure out a sweet spot. I thought I had it at 6%, but it might have to come down just a little bit. Yes, six is two, six, between six and seven is where the ramp games are. And you want a classic, you know, classic Bally Stern, somewhere in the fives, typically.
    14:45
    You know, even It's a slight adjustment. Yeah, I hadn't done it. And it was bugging me. I'm like, it's not, I had them all the way maxed out. I don't, you know, they were good. And it wasn't steep enough. So I went to a longer level. That's all. I'll read the quick email from Grant about the Christmas gift that finally came to him. The subject line is, well, would you look at that. Well, look what arrived in the mail today. Now, I sent this thing, I think it's two or three weeks it took to get to him. He said, what a bloody ripper, a member's hat from the dock in Maureen. Also, lovely Christmas card to go with it. Love it. Thanks very much for the thoughtful gift. The missus said that thing's going to be glued to your head now forever. I threw a snap of myself in when I got home from work. The mustache of the temporary men's health promoter we call Movember. Movember? Movember. I just haven't shaved it off yet as the women love it as you can imagine. Happy to sign a copy for you as it will be worth a few bucks in the coming years I'm sure. Thanks again. I really appreciate the thought. Regards, Grant. Thanks, Grant. Just another Aussie term. What the hell does rug up mean? Hmm. I don't know. I thought it meant like, because I think it was in context to the weather. I think he might mean like put on a sweater, Betty, or, you know, go grab a blanket. It does. It means to put on more layers of clothing to keep warm. Rug up. That's a new one. Informal Australian New Zealand slang term. Okay. So, helps to stay aware of characteristics overall. There are seven cows next door and there are no rugs on those cows. Now the horses on the other side, one of them has a horse blanket. So wrong animal I think. Hmm. Oh. Anyway. Speaking of New Zealand, my brother is in New Zealand right now for two weeks. What's he doing? He's going with a friend of his that had some health scare issues and his friend said, I said, you know what, I want to do a little bucket list because I got a health scare. So let's all, me, you and four or five other guys, let's just go over there and tear it up and do a little mountain hiking and some kayaking and some sightseeing and really beautiful. The pictures look like postcards. You sent some pictures back. They look like the postcard. So it looks like a nice area. Long flight but yeah, pretty nice. So, nice to meet you. Can you bluff in that paper? I hear the paper. Okay. Because we have something I saw, I think I'm fantastic. One of our listeners, friend of yours, Dave Golden, was quoted in the Steve Young article. Oh, cool. Did you see the Steve Young article? I have not seen the Steve Young. I have not. Of course not. Enlighten me. I'm going to stop asking you questions. www.pinballresource.com Simple tables. What you won't find is a buy it now button anywhere. How do you order anything? Well, you send an email or pick up the phone. Either way, don't be surprised if you hear from Steve Young himself. I almost always, this is quote, I almost always call in my orders and talk to Steve. Very, very, very good and bold. It's always informative and interesting. I'll only email an order Dave Golden told me. So there you go, Dave Golden. He's a mass-based pinball enthusiast who not only keeps busy maintaining his own collection of about 30 games, but volunteers his time fixing machines at the Electromagnetic Pinball Museum in Rhode Island. Yes he does, yep. Golden estimates he spent a couple of thousand dollars at the pinball resource since its first order in 2018, but plenty of Young's customers spend a lot more. You would be probably included in that. Oh boy, yeah, boy whoever. Oh yeah, well, I know you know Steve, and I know Steve knows you. Anyway so I have to include this for you Pinside folks because well first of all I just going to say I hope his team does not win this weekend People like Levy or Levi Levy who runs Crazy Levi Levi Levy Levy Levy Levy Levy Breaks whatever which restores and sells pinball machines in the metro New York City area He's been a pinball resource customer for over 20 years and has lost track of how much he spent there buying hard to find parts. I really have no idea, probably over $10,000, but it's not anything I've kept track of.
    20:10
    Wow. So this is a whole thread on Pinball Resource. Okay. Well, I got one more line. So what keeps Levy coming back? Steve Young. He's got the stuff, the knowledge and the personality. And he said, I also get my stuff overnight since it's so close. Yeah. Steve being in Poughkeepsie, Levy being in New York City. Yeah. Anyway. Makes sense. That's that. So a little kudos to our listener and your friend David Golden.
    20:39
    I have something from the last show. Got one more thing. We talked about Mike Engel. Yeah. What came up in the feed? Karl's Sausage Kitchen. Hey! Karl's Sausage. Closed. Closed? The Sausage Kitchen in Chicago is closed? Sold for the property. Sold. Oh. What happened? End of an era. Er-era. Era. Yeah. Era, era. era yeah so too bad wow now how'd you find out that's close how'd you uh how'd this come up i read daily for uh amusement's sake uh boston.com okay that's always got a good fun read to it you have to keep tabs on how well your state is doing it's so much fun up there It is, yeah, we have a lot of good management here. They're doing a really nice job. You have a terrific state. It is so much fun there. I can't wait to go there in April. They do a bang up job here. We keep a run of tight ship. Okay. I... You're going to do repairs, right? You ready to go? Yeah, I think so. I only have one other item and I can bring it back. Okay. What was that? That was my rim shot, George.
    22:05
    You know, they're laughing. They're rim shotting. Something like that. Anyway, what are we doing? What are we doing? Where are we going? No, you!
    22:12
    Oh, me. I will humble you to entertain. All right, I can entertain. First of all, how much time do you have?
    22:19
    I don't know. More than about 20 minutes. Okay, good. Yeah, you got time. So I got some, speaking of pin side, I got some listener mail. Actually more of a Dr. Dave mail, but whatever, close enough. So it says, Hi, my name is Anthony. I'm reaching out to you to hopefully get your opinion on which Stern or Bally pinball to buy for my next pin. I have read through a lot of the discussion here on the forum and you comment in most of them. Knapp Arcade, Bayou, Knobs & Co, Knapp Arcade, Bayou, Knobs & Co, Knapp Arcade, Bayou, Knobs & Co, I just purchased the Stars which I plan to restore. Good idea. As far as early solid state machines, I own Harlem Globetrotters, nice, Skateball and Stars. Other belly machines I am considering are 8 Ball Deluxe, nice one, and Flash Gordon, alsersät greatest talent Yeah, but I said, I said, out of your list there, let me think here, what did he say here? He said he does have that one, right? He's asking you what he should buy, not what he should get rid of. I said get rid of that. I didn't ask you that. And I have a skateboard and I like mine. Can I take offense to that? He said, I said, hey, Anthony, you have some great pinball tastes there. Harlem Stars, Quicksilver, 8 Ball, Lux and Flash, Gorn is a killer lineup of challenging fun. Notice I did not mention skateboard. I like skateboard but it's kind of a poor man's fathom. I own both but fathom up on legs way more often than skateboard. If I had to narrow it down to two for your next acquisition out of your list I'd go for Quicksilver and 8 Ball Deluxe. Those are two top tier games from each manufacturer. So check out the list of games on my Pinside profile. So the ones he wanted you to pick are Quicksilver, 8 Ball Deluxe, and Ali.
    25:14
    What else did he have in there? Yeah. Okay, I'm really confused now. Yeah, well he said there's two Sterns I'm considering, Quicksilver and Ali. Those are the two Sterns he's considering. Right. As far as always, Solid State, he owns blah, blah, blah, but I'm considering 8 Ball Deluxe and Flash Gordon. So it's four games. Yeah, I would have picked Flash Gordon. I would have picked Quicksilver and 8 Ball Deluxe. Okay. 8 Ball to Lux, I just think it's a better overall game because it can be punished. It's a good game too. I'm just saying. I don't have Flash Gordon so I'd really like one. Flash Gordon is a great game but I'd say a lot of times if you want to go up and have a good time here, you're going to be punished a bunch of times and then you're going to have a good time. 8 Ball Deluxe, you might have a couple bad games, bad balls, but sooner rather than later you're going to get into a groove, it's enjoyable, still challenging if you want to press another game out, but 8 Ball Deluxe is a certain kind of special something to that game that's, I think it's Valley's best. Okay, okay, okay, stop drooling over your own games. You need to get one, George. You do have a really nice game, I know that, but, you know, how many more times do we have to talk about it? Anyway, so that was your advice. More, more, more, more, okay. That was my advice. Subscribe for moreils and Daily
    27:00
    I'm probably selling that down the road. And that'll be going bye-bye. You got something you fixed? I do. I have stories from the field. I have acquisitions from the field. I have a pickup. So I picked up a Gottlieb System 1 Hulk. We talked about this... Not on person, not in the show though. I don't think so. We talked about this on a phone call and I said to you, oh it's kind of interesting that we talked about Mike Angle and the Hulk game he had. Yes, he had the two big Hulk fists on top. And there you go with the basket again. Right. Getting the Hulk. And originally I was thinking, yeah you know what, I'll just pick this up, I'll clean it up, restore it, and I'll put it down my mother's house in her basement. I asked her to play a pinball game that I had just launched. She said no, the pinball game that İ use isис class Winning the Control or Power Lion 2012. She said, that would be fun if I were to have it play a pinball or a www.willywonka.com I'm going to call it a project game right now, but a nice complete project that's very restorable. Let's put it that way. Okay. There you go, folks. Give them your email or give them your website or some way of communicating with you. You can reach me at dave at pinballdoctor.com, all spelled out. www.davespinball.com You can qualify people a lot easier on there than you can on Facebook Marketplace. That's what I'm thinking too. I'm thinking Facebook Marketplace is kind of like the... Too many scams, too many... Yeah. You know... It's like the other... Let's put it... What was it? I'm not going to put it out there. It's like Craigslist. It's the new Craigslist, right? Oh yeah, of course it is. Right. Because people don't want to pay the VIG anymore. I mean, if you list something on eBay, you know, they're taking between 15 and 20 percent. Hello everybody and welcome to The STOique Show where we'll be delivering the latest info and shows related to 내가ario 2018 Las Oonas Prostas on a grande agenda!
    30:46
    I get the pins, yeah, pin side, you have a little more of a filter on the thing, there's a little more filter. Don't you remember that whole story Ron Hallett talked about the guy, was it him? Somebody talked about being robbed up in upstate New York for a pinball machine. He showed up at a, at one of those pickups, whatchamacallit, storage sites. Okay. And the guy held him up because he was full of cash. Oh. I don't think they got in. It was, or they met at, you know, some like warehouse looking place. Guy thought it was there. The guy comes out and basically says, give me your cash and leaves with 10 grand. Because he know he had cash on him to buy this thing, right? Of course. Right. He was there to buy a pinball machine. I forget what it was. I forget the whole story, but it was out there. Did he have a gun on him or something? Was there a gun? Was he, was he packing? I believe there, I believe there was. Right. Wow. That's why I mentioned it. Okay. Closed captioning provided by rekeningr marchenrandianzawa account Z наших giliaх laptops http://rekeningайтеhk nearest Lets Ke получается team bone slash I love Gomer. Yeah, that's like, well I actually like I Dream of Jeannie better, but you know.
    32:19
    Did you? Very nuanced. Trump dumps in one of his speech, he talks about Gladys next door. You know who Gladys is, right? Gladys Kravitz. Right. Yeah. I don't think anybody caught it. I'm like, did he just say what he said? Why? He did a boomer one. It's for the boomers out there. The But it was so subtle. It was like, I know who Gladys is. Gladys Kravitz. What's her husband's name? What's her husband's name? Abner. There you go. Abner! What were they doing now across the street, Abner? Abner. Mrs. Stevens is hanging from the chandeliers. Every neighborhood has a Kravitz. Okay, what else you got? Oh, well, I want to talk about, so you talk about eBay and about Craigslist and about Facebook Marketplace. Well, I decided to foray into Poshmark. You guys are talking about Poshmark and the wonders of it and so forth or maybe... Who was? The girl, Janice and your daughter. Oh, Janice and my daughter-in-law. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tim Kitzrow, Loser Kid Pinball Podcast.
    34:09
    We'll get it and we bid on it or you kind of talk to him and okay we talked him down a little bit great hit go all set set up an account and then it said oh you're gonna get within three days because a special special whatever a Poshmark has a special deal three days the first first time you order you get it within three days shipping right in front of Christmas okay well I don't expect that but we'll see what happens three days goes by didn't get it Christmas comes by didn't get it two weeks come by let me look and see is this thing you http://www.youtube.com.com.com.com.com. Not around. Still didn't ship. Still. Still looking at the tracking. Now finally she made a label. Four weeks now. Four weeks. Now I say cancel my order in caps. Over and over. Cancel, cancel, cancel. Now look, this is... I've said this before and I'll say it again and I'll take slings and arrows and everything else. That is why I use the American Express card. Hey, George, you know what? I get a Visa card, they love me, I... Amazon Visa... You used the same thing then. Oh, I sure did. 32 hours later So, George was cancel me, cancel me, cancel me. Over and over again I wrote cancel me. And said oh I'm sorry this is all on text, this is all on chat. And said oh I'm sorry, it's already been ... Oh, not a chat, one of those chatbot things. Well no, it's a real person chatting from India or wherever the hell they're from. I don't know. The person who's selling the thing is in Oregon and then Poshmark is somewhere overseas. Who knows where the hell they are? And they say, oh, well, she already put, it's already labeled, it's already in ship status. They go, well, it's not been shipped because I just did the tracking number. It hasn't been picked up yet. It's been three weeks. It's not picked up. So the label created doesn't mean anything. Well, you have to wait until it arrives until you can cancel it. That makes no sense. It's going to arrive, they're going to cancel it and ship it back. That's stupid. I don't want any part of this thing. You guys suck. Cancel it. I don't care. I went another week and said it's still not shipped. I contacted the person now selling it and she said, I know what's going on. They have it in their hands now. It should be at your site by now. It's like, no, it's not. And look at your tracking number. So, well, if it got lost, I want to compensate it from Poshmark. I said, I don't care what you do, but I'm going to my credit card. So I wrote on Poshmark, I said, don't worry about it. I'm canceling it on my site since you guys can't handle this. You guys shouldn't even be in business. I'm going to keep it for you. I called on my card. No problem, sir. We'll cancel it right now for you. We'll get rid of that charge, no problem. I thought you were going to go in the other direction with this, that some porch pirates came by and stole the package. No, I don't have that problem here. No problem with that here. That's good, that's good. So then, about ten minutes later, I get a chat thing from them. Oh, sir, we're going to cancel it. It's been waiting for a long time. Yeah, you think? You probably just got a thing from Visa saying it's cancelled. Yeah, I took care of it. Get out of here. It's called at the speed of light. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Now it's the speed of light. Now that I freaking mean business. Not I saw the light. Right, George, right. As Austin Powers would say. So anyway, so that's the Poshmark story. And on to bigger and better things, like this beautiful Captain Fantastic you see right in front of you. See that, Captain? Yes, stop moving. You're pulsing. Hold on, I'm pulsing? Oh, wait a minute. How is it pulsing? It's automatically focusing? It should be auto-focus, it should be off. It's kept pulsing? Is that what it's doing? Does it keep moving, like going zoom, zoom like that? It's a nice looking game. Captain Fantastic. It's fantastic. It's Captain Fantastic. I'm not so sure I would use that word, but we're going to take a little different approach to that. All right. I went out and watched our friend's old site, Pinburgh, you know, their website, they have the games, and I watched this particular game, again with no sound, which really is lousy. You're not doing a play-by-play, it's pretty crappy, but it gave me the general essence. I want you to sell me on this game, why it's so good. Okay. I don't know if I can do that, George. But I'll try. Okay then we will scrap that approach and we go with the why don you tell us a little bit about the game Dave and if you don have it up on screen I pull it up and I read everything left out on IPDB but let try to condense it and try to get to the meat of the matter I mean, I'd say this game is a very popular game. Everyone saw this game back in the day. They made a crap ton of them. They made over 16,000 of these, but hang on a second. Yeah. I don't ever remember seeing this at one of the shows. But I'm not actually looking for it either, so forgive me. But I will the next time. The first thing that jumps out at me is the designer and that he basically robbed the bottom of the game from another one of the games he did. Which one? Well, first of all, say his name. Dave Christensen. No, that's the artist. I meant the designer. Uh, Majak. Okay, the K is silent. Yes. Okay. Like Knife. Okay, like Knife. Okay. Okay. Mr. Majak. Yes. He stole the bottom of this game from another popular game that I happen to like and own. Which one? This game came out first. I understand that, but he also designed Harlem Globetrotters. He basically stole it from this game and made the bottom Harlem Globetrotters. If you look at the design of this game, it's got all his arcs all over it. Look at it. It's kind of like Harlem Globetrotters. Kind of. Yeah, okay. I can see that. I see, yeah, the drop targets would be stand-ups in the left there. The Saucer Up Top The Three Lanes Up Top The Saucer There's actually five, but he stretched it. And he put the spinner over on the left. What's the difference? But there's no, there should be a spinner in this game. He missed putting a spinner in this game. No, he should have put one in. But my point is, he got a redo with Harlem. Yeah, I think so. He got a redo. He said, I'm going to make my game now. Maybe that's what happened. Right. Okay. So now that you know who the artist is, now that you know who the designer is, and you And you know what the bottom of the game looks like. It's got two flippers on the left, one on the right. It's got the ball save gate over on the right hand side and the open lane on the left. Complete. Done. Two slingshots. Over. And it's got the gate open. You got that part done? The gate? Yeah, the gate open. What did I say? I thought I said that. But anyway, right. The gate open. This game is all about, you know, to get bonuses game, it's kind of obscure. You have to get over lit green rollovers to get bonus points. You're not getting them from the drop targets. The only way you're getting from drop targets is get them all down, you'll light extra ball lane or light it up for a special, for a free game. But otherwise, drop targets are just shoot it for, to light the extra ball up. Otherwise, you're going over lit rollovers to get your bonus points up and you're trying to get the AB land at the top to get double bonus. Why are they green and not orange? Orange ones were, I think, a prototype. I think early versions had orange, but these had green. Most of them have green inserts. Were they green on other games before this? Oh yeah, they're green. They inter-planetary space them, George. Green or orange, depending on what... Oh, okay, so both were out. So nothing, okay. Anything special about... I mean, I didn't really find anything special. It's an open game. It could be really fast. But it's... I don't know. Doesn't do much for me. It's a great looking game. The artwork is fantastic. The Bally grapefruits are in full display. Do you want to talk about the back glass for a minute? I want to talk about the grapefruits, George. Well, it's more than just that. Yeah, the back glass has... Well, the whole controversy... you've got to start with the controversy. Well, yeah, there was a little too over the top with the little sexual stuff going on. So they said, okay, you've got to put some stars over the stuff to kind of hide it. Tim Kitzrow, Loser Kid Pinball Podcast. I think they're both holding up their middle finger. Huh. That's a new one on me. I saw it out on IPDB. Whatever. You saw a picture? Maybe is it a different? Were there different back? I know they put stars on it, but this artwork was the same, right? Yeah, same, but I don't see where that would be because I'm looking right here and... Okay. Well, hey, after the show, you can go look in the... I do see a girl above the pinball machine grabbing her grapefruits. I never saw that before. She's grabbing her grapefruits. Interesting. I don't see anybody giving the middle finger so far. Looking around here, I do see Dave Christensen's self, a picture of him. I see Hitler. I see Brutus. by I mean, I always think of his signature, I know other will think otherwise, Nitro Groundshaker. That's kind of, I always think that game defines him, just with the artwork. Yeah, yeah, he, all his backglasses are fantastic. If you could just collect the backglasses for this guy. Yeah, no, it's a, like you said, it's a great looking game. I told this story and you thought I was crazy. The Arcade down on the boardwalk in New Jersey with five of these side by side when they came out. Yeah, I played about six of them in a line at Pinball Fantasy 96 out in Las Vegas in a tournament. They had six in line. You get to pick. You walk up. You give them a ticket. Whatever one's available, you got to go up to that one. Some of them had hot rotted pop-up that are really super powerful. Other ones are high tapped. Other ones are slow. You don't know what captain you're going to go up and play on, but that's going to be K OF THE DAV 我是 nhưng покаpr Привет! pero effectivement prostit demasiado e-paúng Yeah, I went in the red. Anyway, I'll ask you one then. And you're okay. First off, do not ask me to play I'm Your Captain. I am not playing that song again. Don't worry. Yeah, that was gonna be the question. Yeah. Do you know what the hit was from that album?
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    The Captain Fantastic album? Yeah. And the Brown Dirt Cowboy. What was the hit song? Well, I know that album was, um, that was a protest against his, uh, record company for having to put another album out. So he basically lambasted, uh, the music industry and he put all, it's like a protest album against all the BS he had to go through. But I'm not sure what the hit was. I'm hoping whatever the hell I do here, no, it's not letting me. Damn it. What's the hit? On another device. I don't have the name of the song in front of me. It's on, I can't get to the screen. Tom Head. Anyway. Ehh, George, that's okay. Our audience, our audience expects this, George. No, no, you know the intro song. I'm gonna play it. Yeah. Oh no, I know the key line. Now you're gonna know the song. I don't know the name of it. What's the key line? Butterflies are free, do to do do. Oh, that song, Fly Away. Fly away. Da da. Da da da da da da. Ah, aaaah. Oh, you know, that's a thing now. Um, pinball podcast. No, what is that? People singing. That was horrible. I sounded like a cat getting beat, beat up in a pillowcase. That was hard. Oh, somebody saved my life tonight. That's it.
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    Yeah, that's a good song. Right. But I wouldn't have known that was the hit from that album. I wouldn't either. Okay. So there you go, even. Um, continue, is there something else about this game? This game, this game was a filthy pig. Yeah, you didn't like what I called it. No, you said that I called the game a pig. Well, I'd say the condition was, you know, I mean... Right, but you didn't like what I called it. What did you call it? You took offense to it. What did you call it? Well, no, because you said I said something, I didn't say that. No, you said the game is a pig. That is what you said. I think I said filthy pig, but it's okay. Okay. You can add a couple adjectives to it, but whatever. Okay. Sure. You called it a pig. Yes. You can state that. Yeah. And then I came back and I called it Captain Pig-tastic, and I don't think you really liked me saying that. No, because it's kind of, it isn't now. I wasn't insulting you. And it's not now. We all know that. Right. Okay. You do, you haven't even said anything about that yet. This thing was, when I got it, it was just like loaded with all kinds of dust inside, outside, on everything and I had to take the playfield outside with a fire hose and I had to take my air compressor, compress, blow all that crap out of it everywhere, wipe everything down, clean switches, I mean I had to do all kinds of things. Do you know the back story of this game? It's a family heirloom that was stored away for a good long time. There you go, that's the answer. They couldn't find anybody. In fact, I said, you know, your plate is a little bit worn. You want the, oh, no, no, I want to keep the patina on there. It's like, okay, easier for me. I'm going to concentrate on other things then. But I, I cleaned it up. It's really nice. But this has some notable wear where these games always wear is right in front of the drop tower. These things made thousands of dollars each. These things were played to death. It's amazing that any of them really survived when you think about it. It's so wacky where they get warned. It's always worn the same spot. Between the drop targets and the pop bumpers is an area right there where the piano keys are. It always gets blown out right there. Not on the right, but always right there on the left. I think because people just keep shooting for those drops and they hit a pop bumper and just keeps going back and forth there for some reason. Or they miss and they hit the pop bumper and it bumps the other way and there's a sling over there, right? Howard Girle, Grant House, Jake Nutter, Scott Nutter, The Armature gets all loosey-goosey worn out and even if your drop targets are new, they'll try to reset, one or two won't come up. It just, you know, it always has missing teeth all the time when it resets the game or between balls, you know. So, the solution to it is you rebuild the whole thing there and only up until recently could you get, you have to be really creative and do like a MacGyver and make your own stuff. You're not going to let me talk about target parts or anything, right? Because the last time I thought you were pulling... after listening to that podcast, I thought you were pulling my leg that you didn't understand. And then the comment to Grant that you need a frickin' decoder ring to understand what I was trying to say. Yes. And I couldn't quite get what you were trying to say. No, you couldn't. No, you couldn't, but... I don't think anybody else could either. You were being very obtuse. We'll pull the audience. We'll see, you know, I just... Well, I don't get... I get crickets, so, you know, look, I'm not going to hear anything. You seem to have the underground pulse of the classic pinball podcast. I'm out in the field by myself, holding my... yeah, that's what I'm doing. With the horse coats. Yeah, with the horses and the frickin' cattle and... The rug coats. The rug coat. The cackles haven't arrived yet. It's too cold, but whatever. Whatever. It's like a frickin' menagerie out here. So this game had a bunch of worn out crap. It had worn out drop target assembly. It had worn out chime bars. It was all like, the middle one was all torn up and someone decided to cut it and try to drill a new hole in it. It sounded like ass. It was missing a hammer for it, a plunger for that ALOT OF parallel I'm the one who brought all that crap up. But anyway. No, but you brought up the crap that it's overseas and from the Netherlands, a whole chime box. I don't care about that. I want the chime bars. I don't want to buy a $300 pinball. We talked about Marco having all the parts. Right, but he also has other, I was going to get to, he has other parts I didn't know he had for the drop targets, which is rare. No, I saw all those too. We had this conversation about Stern parts and Bally parts and parts that don't work together, but I get what you did. Tell the audience. I'll tell the audience that you're assuming things. Nope, that's not it. So, not the walls for the drop target assembly, there's other crap. So anyway, the chime bars, you gotta buy them in a set. You can buy onesies, twosies, one bar, one bar, whatever, if you wanted to. Tim Kitzrow, Loser Kid Pinball Podcast.
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    Linkage buttons, a little like small little standoff things, little metal linkage, what are they called? Bullet pieces. I don't know. Whatever they call them, I'll have to look it up. But it's those little things so that the old ones get worn out after hitting metal and metal so long they get all rounded out and they get a lot of looseness in the assembly. I put brand new ones in here and did some other stuff in there and after doing all that, The drop targets, I put new drop targets, it pops right up, stays up, they drop down smooth, so it's like a whole new assembly. But you don't need the walls that you were talking about, George, you don't need that in this game. It wasn't the walls I was talking about. Oh my God! No, no, no, no. You were talking about the stupid armatures in the back that go up. Right, up through the slot and bang all the time. Right, right, right. And just so you know, folks, my treasure hunt, I found my stash of them. I'm a fan of the old style pinball, but I only had the old style ones, not the one with the hook on the end. And now I have another question because I saw them on Sterns. Is that a Stern thing or a Bally thing or do they both do it? No, the Stern ones have a hook. Right, so I have some of my drop targets have those in them, in my Bally machines. So the well because the other ones were crapped out what will happen if your bally one is messed up it'll shoot beyond where it's supposed to go your drop target will stick way up high it won't even when it gets hit it won't drop down your stick your drop target will be way up high and not go down that's when you know George's little linkage bar thing he's talking about each drop target has one is worn out but you can actually turn those instead of buying it you actually can flip that around side to and reuse it and you're still good for Thank you for being with us this evening on Super Half Time, we'll see you then. don't Happy guess what it is 0308 웃고 GPS cool That's not it. They look like a bullet you put in an air gun, you know, something like that.
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    Um, I haven't taken one apart, so anyway, I'll take your word for it. Hey, folks, if you have any questions about drop targets, just drop Dave a line. He'll, you know, he'll straighten you out. There you go. I'll straighten you right out.
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    I think we've beaten the horse to death. Is there anything else about this game? How about you play a game because everybody's going to shut the F up you two. and play a game. There's something with a B. That little part is called a B and I can't freaking remember what the frick it says. A B. A bezel? No, bus. I'm going to look it up later. But I... Okay. Frick. Ugh, that kills me. It's a... Again, the audience understands. Our demographic is a little on the high side. You know, we get some forgiveness. Senior moment. Everybody looks at us. They're trying. Oh, they're trying really hard. They're probably showing out, it's this term, dummy. It's this. Right. They're yelling at their iPhone or they're ripping the, you know, headphones out of their head. No, not anymore. We're not. And I'm not going to do what I did the last time. That's fantastic. No cub reporter anymore.
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    You and I need to talk about that. Okay. Anyway, I got some ideas. So why don't you turn this game on and play it and then explain what you're attempting to do. Do you have this on three or five ball? I found it, George. It's called a shoulder, a shoulder link stud.
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    There. A shoulder link stud A shoulder link stud Yes Sounds pornographic It does It very studly That what that is Now we know So anyway, let's uh... Oh boy, hold on a second. I got that guy who wants to come over here. If I wasn't going to call this episode Captain Fantastic, I would call it Shoulder Link Stud. Okay. Okay? That would get a couple of eyeballs. At least they would tune in to see what the F we're talking about. I'm just telling the guy who's... All right, the guy is picking this game up in about 45, 40 minutes. Well, you better talk fast. All right, so let's play a game here. And away we go. I'm John Popadiuk, and I'll see you next time. Don't you think I want to hear it? After you sit there and eloquently talk about your new chimes and they don't work? No, it's stupid Zoom again with their fricking filtering crap. Try again. Now you'll hear it. Oh, now I hear everything. Right, yeah, Zoom. Okay, be quiet. It's dumb Zoom. Zoom, zoom. Well, I'm watching this thing pulse back and forth. I know that sounds really dirty, but it's going in and out of focus, and it's very difficult to watch the game while it's doing that. You know, I need a producer. Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah. Never mind. I'm not going there either. Continue to play the game. That was... I don't know. Uneventful. No, that doesn't work. Oh. Hold on. Hey, where'd you go? About... What are you doing? How's that one? Better. That's pulsing. Is that pulsing? No, not now. Okay. I don't know. That's what she said. Both, yeah. Is it supposed to pulse? I don't know. That's what she said. Both, yeah. You're supposed to pulse. All right. And... Okay, so Dave, are you going to try to hit the targets down first? Yeah, why not? They're sitting right there. They're waiting for me to hit them down, so why not? And what's the maximum bonus on this game? Fifteen. That's it? Fifteen thousand. 15,000. Well, and double. Double's 30. Right, which is the A-B lanes up top? Yes, A-B gives you the double bonus. And when you hit the active slings, they change? The lanes change? Uh, pop bumpers. Pop bumpers change the lanes up top? Yes. Okay. Let me see if, uh... Let me see, hold on a second, I think that's what happens. That opens the gate, right? No, no, that is incorrect. I am incorrect on that one. That does not do that.
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    Wow. Yeah, you're getting barbecued here. And that was that. That's ball five, 53,000. That was five balls? That was five balls.
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    Believe that? What was your score? 53,000. And we have nine minutes in this segment remaining. Okay, so what do you have to talk about other than playing another game? I'll talk about some tales from the field, some little, I got some tech tips, some weird stuff I encountered. So why don't you give us a tech tip while you're playing? All right. And if you do something exciting, I'll say something. Let's see. Where, very well, where should I begin? Japan Basics
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    and he says mostly working yeah not really um showed up i thought it'd be you know a beautiful game the the artwork was tore off it I i thought these games are actually well it was supposed to be painted on the outside like the ballys but it looks like this thing had a sticker that was is tore off it so it was mostly a black night with a black cabinet and a little bit of artwork that's still hanging on the side The on the game is supposed to be a mystery gate uh... when you go down your left in lane to your left flipper you have a it's a uh... a time shot to go up the middle ramp to the upper playfield area and his was missing it had the gate like housing for it but no gate no switch armature no nothing it was like that from day one for him isn't playing a night after somebody took it out of the game yeah i guess they needed somewhere else he bought it from you know joe short sleeves uh... ding him and and screw on pinball and pour him uh... somewhere so this game is kind of rough so i am lying lying cheating and feeling the uh... pinball link yeah i think so okay uh... We got there at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, a little later than we wanted to. We thought, oh, we'll be here maybe like four or five hours. Well, we're approaching, we're rounding 10 p.m. now with no dinner in us and we're still working on the game at 10 p.m. an hour and a half away from home.
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    And it's like we built all the four flippers and we had to put a new board in it and a new power supply and a bunch of different wiring and there were wire nuts, there was no, some solder was not there, just some twisted wires together, all kinds of crap. There's really a lot of hack job, pair of pliers on a blowtorch type of tech, and you know, fixed all that. And then I said, what am I going to do about this mystery thing? It was bugging me. It's like, I can't leave this game without this function. It sucks. You know, this guy needs this function. Even though he doesn't know he needs it, he does need it. So I looked in my bag of tricks. I feel like I'm Felix the Cat going through the bag and finding something, you know. http://www.youtube.com.au
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    If you're looking for long-term adjust So that was really happy with that with that fix. I like when I get like a beauty of the game It is now Right, but it's just you keep telling these tales of people buying crap. They buy crap. They do they don't know any better They either go to you know, Florida junk salvage a lot of that out there that they called like oh, it's all fully restored Oh, yeah, I got a guy from P-town right now that wants to buy a godly John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Knapp Arcade, Raydaypinball Podcast. Knapp Arcade, Rayday Pinball Podcast. and we can go look at it he says oh you're right this thing is a bunch of junk it's like can you find one it's like I'll find you one I said I get I get contacts I'll look you know so you know he's gonna I'm gonna try restoring for him down the road and get that going for him so those are the two bad games there then I went to go to Western Mass to work on a WWF Royal Rumble Data East game from 93 I think 92 and that game someone cut some wires that is a wire The power supply board was burnt up, so they cut the wire, they sort of tacked it to the back of the board, I think they dropped the solder from 10 feet above the board, because it wasn't holding on at all, it was ready to short something out, so I had to fix that, took that off, put a new .093 pin into that, put that back in there, shopped the game out. That was another eight hour call, no dinner that night. We got home at like 11 o'clock at night that night. The black night we got home at 1.30 in the morning. So we're doing some late night pinball things and those are the two highlights of the pinball repair stuff that we've done. I have something I want to explain to the audience. I teased it earlier and everybody probably thought with the title of the last episode that it had some religious underpinning.
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    Okay. The song phrase came from his mother as she was driving drunk Hank in the back of the convertible into Memphis. And he shouted, or was it Nashville, wherever, somewhere, I saw the light, all the lights in the city. But he robbed the actual song itself from some gospel. So it does have some roots there. Oh, you know what? I think I, there was a, uh, um, what's a, what's a one more, one more thing, ma'am. Uh, you know, my buddy there with the cigar. Who, Peter Falk? Peter Falk, yeah, that show. Columbo? Columbo. There's a Columbo one that had the guy, um, shit, oh boy, I'm leaving. Johnny Cash? Yeah, look at that. Bang. Another one, George. He's right there. Yes, Johnny Cash, because he was singing I Saw the Light in that episode. He was, he was like kind of a future buddy guy. I'm going to have to go back and watch it. Anyway, so it does have some religious undertones, but it's not what people think. It's not like, you know, somebody's going to get baptized and, you know, the preacher, the reverend, whatever denominations, says, I saw the light! You know, no. And hopefully it wasn't an oncoming train, George. Bang. I think that's about it. We got about maybe two minutes, I think. We got one and a half minutes. Okay, well, say goodbye and I'll say goodbye. All right. Well, folks, this has been the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is Dave. His name is George. It's been a lot of fun. It's been a lot of fun and it's been a fantastic, let's call it, show. Boo. What do you think, George? I'm not sold on this game, but, yeah, okay. To each his own. This is the Pinball, the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. Stay lit and tilted. Until next month, I'm hoping we have a special guest, Dave. Alright, I will say George, everyone stay warm out there and asymptomatic.
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    Let's sing an old camp meeting song, one that Hank Williams wrote, I Saw the Light. All right, Dr. Dave here, just getting back in the office and looks like I just missed a call. Let's see if we can leave a voicemail. Wait a couple seconds here. There it is. There's a voicemail waiting for us. Let's see who called the Dr. Dave hotline. You have 16. Saved message. Message skipped. Saved message. Okay, what do we got? Yes, my name is Debbie. All right, Debbie. All right, Debbie, what do we got? A-L-A-I. All right, I got the name, Debbie. I live in Colchester, Connecticut. Okay. Sorry, I'm a little hoarse. I just got a little cold. We have a pinball machine. We paid five grand for it. Oh. I don't know. so
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    I'm still giving the same message. I went downstairs this morning thinking I could do something with it. I opened it up, I unplugged it, I hit the reset button. Now it's giving really strange messages. But anyway, it's yours if you want to come get it. I'm in Colchester, you have a 508 number. I know my niece has one and she was right over the border from Connecticut. But I just want to get rid of it so I can buy something else. Cool. So, I'm sure it's an easy fix. We can help you with that. And it's, um, I can send you pictures of it. Sure. It's Lonnie Anderson from, I don't know, the Beach Show. Lonnie Anderson. And she's like all but naked on it, but, you know, she's showing a bathing suit or whatever. Bathing suit. That's Pam Anderson. Bathing watch or whatever. But anyway. But Lonnie's okay, Tim. Both blondes. It's in my game room. I have a pool table, a foosball. It was a nice addition. If you have something else to replace it, I'd be willing to do a trade. It's not just come and get it. I mean, I would just appreciate you coming and getting it. If not, my husband's just going to put it, he's going to need three people to move it, a couple of people to move it, but put it in the truck and take it to the dump where they have this... A bay watch to the dump? ...and they can come and get it for free. Oh, no, no, no. We'll come down again. We're going to save it. We'll shop it out, play some Lonnie Anderson, and then sell it. Mmhmm. Oh. Mmhmm. Okay. Oh, he never liked it. Didn't like playing it? If you want it, you can have it. Let me know. 860-481-9060 Okay, all right, we can definitely do that. We can definitely help you with that. Not a problem. Please take this out of my game room. I'll put a couch there. All right. Thanks, bye. Do you need help with the couch? That's what I wanna know. All right, well, that means that we need to jump on this ASAP, I think. We need to make sure the car is gassed up, Get stuff out of the back of the car, the parts, get my two-wheeler in there, and get ready for an hour and a half. I got to clear my schedule out and see what we can do here to get out of here.
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    And Google Maps says a little over an hour, hour, hour and a half away. Not too bad. It's sunny out today. We definitely can do that. Wait a second. I think I just missed another call here.
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    All right. Okay, another call. Well, before we head out, let me just check my voicemail here, see what's going on here. Let's see here. You have 16. All right. Saved message. Hi, this is Debbie Salmon. Debbie, hello Debbie. Cancel my message. Oh, okay. My husband and his friend are both aerospace engineers. Right. They took the thing apart, changed the battery. Right. And that's why they couldn't fix it. I thought it was gone. Oh. And I went downstairs this morning to do some work. I'm sorry. I was at the Wires this morning to do laundry in the laundry room and I stopped. I unplugged it, I opened up the front door, played with the wires, unplugged everything, plugged it back in, the machine's working fine. Clearly there was something loose. So two aerospace engineers couldn't fix it, but a housewife did. So it's working now, but if we ever need another one in the future, or you want to when it What you need to know when it comes to a point where something big has to be fixed. We'll call you and you can come pick it up. But right now, it's working again. Just play three or four games on it. It works fine. And it's a great machine, it talks to you. You just said you hated the game and wanted to get rid of it. They put it in a dump. And so Lonnie Anderson, I don't know if that means anything. I don't know if it means anything. I think you're confused. It's a great little machine, but it really adds value to our game. I don't know if that means anything but Lyman F. I don't know if it means anything. It's on the front of it and on the side of it. I think you're confused. They watch Bayonets too. It's a great little machine but it really adds value to our game room. Well, a minute ago... Thanks so much anyway. Talk to you soon. Bye bye. Okay. A minute ago you were ready to throw this thing out in the dump and burn it and come get it and I hate it and now you love it. So I don't know. People are fickle, but that was a Dr. Dave official fire drill. Well, it looks as if our time has just about run out. Just enough left to tell them who the sponsor was. Who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored? Dr. Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! Right. George, you don't know what you're saying. You're under their control. George, we've had it with you. Say no rodeo, bro dad. Hasta la vista, baby.