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Triple Drain analyzes Venom's rule set complexity and player comprehension issues.
Venom's rule set is fundamentally about color-matching combos, comparable to the game Simon, requiring only following lit shots of matching colors
high confidence · Host explains the core mechanic: 'It literally is just one shot. You shot one shot, and then you follow it, and you hit it for a second shot.' The rule card states: 'complete color coded mini combos to collect lights in the grid.'
Kerry Hardy admitted in his Venom review video that he did not read the rule card before forming his negative opinion
high confidence · Travis states: 'I do appreciate that, that he admitted. I heard about that, and I was just like, bro, no. I couldn't believe when somebody told me that. But that's what he's saying, is he's like, I am admitting that I put forth zero effort before stepping in front of that game.'
The Venom rule set PDF is 32 pages but does not contain 32 pages of actual content due to large margins and spacing similar to high school paper padding
medium confidence · Travis claims: 'it is literally like whoever wrote that. I assume Dwight did it. It's almost like the way I would write my papers in high school to try to get away with making the font as big as possible, the margins as big as possible, because I want to lengthen out my paper as much as I can. There's just no comparison.'
Pro version of Venom has smoother, more consistent shots than Premium because it lacks the mechanical changes that alter playfield behavior based on character selection
high confidence · Travis explains mechanic differences: 'The Horseshoe was a relatively safe shot...now all of a sudden with the premium are not as consistent or reliable...When you go through the right side of the horseshoe, there's an up-down post that will actually come up and slow down the ball.'
Some players prefer Venom Pro over Premium because the absence of ramp changes makes shots more predictable, similar to how some players prefer Godzilla Pro and Avengers Pro over their Premium versions
high confidence · Travis: 'But I kind of like the pro better...there are people that argue Godzilla Pro is better than Premium because of that. People argue Avengers Pro is better than the premium because of that.'
Venom's rule set is structurally similar to Attack from Mars, with players completing color-coded objectives similar to filling zones on Attack from Mars
“It literally is just one shot. You shot one shot, and then you follow it, and you hit it for a second shot. Yes. That's it. That's all you need.”
Joel @ N/A — Distills Venom's core mechanic to its simplest form, central to host argument that players are overcomplicating the game
“I am admitting that I put forth zero effort before stepping in front of that game to try to learn how to play the game.”
Kerry Hardy (quoted by Travis) @ N/A — Kerry Hardy's admission that he didn't read the rule card before forming his negative opinion of Venom
“It's literally that! That's what this game is! People have convinced themselves they have to know all these different combos and memorize it.”
Tom @ N/A — Compares Venom to Simon game to emphasize simplicity of core mechanic
“There's not 32 pages of content on there... I'm here to tell you, There's less than 1% of players in the world that even need to know that because they're even capable of doing that.”
Travis @ N/A — Challenges the intimidation factor of Venom's PDF rule set length
“Some games are like that. Some games aren't. But to me, it's just like people just have to understand that when you play pinball, you don't necessarily have to know everything.”
Joel @ N/A — Core philosophy: players don't need to master all rules to enjoy a game
“I think it's an impossible task to write a code set that pleases the Carl DeAngelos of the world that wants super crazy, all that craziness, and a complete novice that they can step up and have a good time.”
Joel @ N/A — Identifies fundamental design tension between competitive depth and casual accessibility
“Choose your host, change the game. You look at any promo, you see it. It even says it on the rule card.”
Travis @ N/A — Points to Stern's explicit messaging about character-based playfield changes that reviewers missed
community_signal: Significant community division over Venom's playability: some enthusiastic early adopters (Hottie Frisco, pinball company staff) vs. notable critics (Kerry Hardy) who admit to minimal effort in understanding the game before forming opinions
high · Multiple references to mixed reactions across Pinside forums and YouTube reviews; Kerry Hardy's admission of zero effort; hosts describe watching 'people's thoughts' and 'entertaining' reactions
community_signal: Hosts expressing frustration with content creators who review games without adequate preparation (reading rule cards, extended play testing) and publish negative opinions based on insufficient effort
high · Repeated criticism of Kerry Hardy; discussion of how minimal reading (even just rule card vs. 32-page PDF) would solve confusion; emphasis that 'people that consume pinball content' should put in basic effort
competitive_signal: Travis preparing Venom selection for upcoming Stern Pro Circuit Championship; indicates game gaining competitive traction despite casual confusion
medium · Travis: 'I'm going to pick it the whole entire time. Yes.' Comment about preparing when returning from Super Series.
design_philosophy: Hosts argue Venom's rule set is being misunderstood and overcomplicated by players and reviewers who are not reading the rule card or following basic color-matching mechanics; core mechanic is Simon-like and fundamentally simple
high · Extended discussion of Kerry Hardy's admitted failure to read rules before review; hosts repeatedly emphasize simplicity of color-matching combo mechanic compared to other Stern games
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medium confidence · Host: 'Venom is kind of Attack from Mars to life if you really look at it.' Another host: 'I just kind of slightly like that, yeah.'
Designing a rule set that satisfies both casual players and competitive/deep-play enthusiasts like Carl D'Angelo is nearly impossible
medium confidence · Joel: 'I think it's an impossible task to write a code set that pleases the Carl DeAngelos of the world that wants super crazy, all that craziness, and a complete novice that they can step up and have a good time. Like, it is, how do you find that balance?'
Dwight Sullivan designed Munsters as an intentionally simple rule set but received criticism for it being too shallow
high confidence · Travis: 'Dwight did Munsters. And Munsters was specifically, it was supposed to be an easy to understand, like, rule set. And they got, people laid into him for it.'
Jason from Pinball Party has left the Triple Pinball Network and is now producing content on his own separate channel
high confidence · Host announces: 'Jason, Pinball Party has officially left TPN. No bad blood, no problem at all. But he left, so definitely check. Make sure, because he's still making episodes, make sure you subscribe to him on his own channel.'
“It's just pinball. Just have fun. Attach it to something else. That's the big thing. Have fun.”
Tom @ N/A — Summarizes host philosophy about approaching pinball without overthinking complexity
“I had no idea what I was doing, but I'm scoring a lot of points.”
Tom @ N/A — Describes his first Venom experience: successfully following blinky lights without understanding the rule set
“If Venom is the exact opposite of, like, let's try something that's very different than all other pinball games out there, like you can't, you can't please everybody.”
Travis @ N/A — Acknowledges design risk of Venom's innovative rule set structure
design_philosophy: Fundamental tension in modern pinball design between casual/location player accessibility and competitive depth; designers like Dwight struggle to satisfy both audiences simultaneously
high · Joel: 'I think it's an impossible task to write a code set that pleases the Carl DeAngelos of the world that wants super crazy, all that craziness, and a complete novice.' Discussion of Munsters backlash despite intentional design for simplicity.
personnel_signal: Jason from Pinball Party has departed Triple Pinball Network to produce content independently; reported as amicable with no bad blood
high · Host announcement: 'Jason, Pinball Party has officially left TPN. No bad blood, no problem at all. But he left, so definitely check. Make sure, because he's still making episodes, make sure you subscribe to him on his own channel.'
product_strategy: Venom Pro vs Premium/LE features clear mechanical differentiation: Premium/LE include character-based playfield changes (ramp height, post diverters) while Pro maintains static layout; players divided on which version plays better
high · Travis provides detailed mechanical analysis: 'When you go through the right side of the horseshoe, there's an up-down post that will actually come up and slow down the ball.' Discussion of Godzilla and Avengers Pro preferences supports this pattern.
technology_signal: Hosts discuss potential solution of in-game LCD tutorial narration for Venom (similar to mini-screens Carl D'Angelo uses), suggesting current onboarding for both home and location players is insufficient
medium · Discussion of adding tutorial via LCD with voice narration; suggestion to put tutorials on start buttons instead of menu navigation; acknowledged issue for 'home users' specifically