uh oh and then I think just a you can collect a mystery within that city or something like that. So and that's on the play field. Gary, we by pinball wants to know if Gary's likeness is in the game. There's Easter eggs for Jaws and King Kong. I don't know if they could push that with this. I mean, they got it in Jaws. All of the art was done by the Pokemon All of the art was done by the Pokemon Company. Um, oh, but Jeremy Packer is credited for it oh, but Jeremy Packer is credited for it on uh he apparently like had involvement from he apparently like had involvement from what I heard in how like he would give insight because of course these Pokemon company has never done a pinball machine before. So like he would give insight into like So like he would give insight into like where on the playfield or how big on the playfield these certain things should be or on the back glass or all those things. Um, so that's probably why he's credited, but like the art 100% was done by the Pokemon Company. Oh, that's that's unfortunate. I really Oh, that's that's unfortunate. I really thought I mean I could believe and see Jeremy doing this. I think somebody said in chat that the people are complaining about the simplicity of the art. Look, I'm sorry. Like this is exactly the change of artwork that Stern needs. It's got more solid bold colors in different areas. Like it's just it's so much. Look at the playfield here on the right. You can immediately see what the lanes are, what the shots are, what the flow is. like you're reading the UI design straight off the playfield. Whereas, for example, we'll take Walking Dead as an example, whether you like the color scheme or not, but like it's a busy playfield and you can't really read what's like the the flow of what you're supposed to be doing it as a player from it. So, for me, this is I love this artwork. I think the P cabinets look great, the back glass look great, and the playfield looks awesome. Yeah. Uh the the premium back glass is Yeah. Uh the the premium back glass is my favorite because it reminds me the most of the '9s Pokemon uh like TV show. Um Um the Pro is also pretty similar. Uh the the Pro is also pretty similar. Uh the LE it feels like the most different obviously. Um yeah, their package is very different. yeah, their package is very different. And these these color schemes look a little bit like uh I don't know like different Pokéballs. Isn't there a yellow and purple like Pokeball? It's supposed to be the Master Ball, which you get that shooter rod. I think this is the first STM that like the Ellie comes with a custom shooter rod. And potentially may not be purchasable. I'm potentially may not be purchasable. I'm guessing when they put out their shooter rods, it's just going to be a normal Pokeball instead of the Master Ball. So, that's cool. I'm okay with that. I think that's cool. I'm okay with that. I think people have been asking for the LE's to be like a little bit more different to make them worth and and the cost to make more sense and and that's that's what we're looking at here. So, Uh, no mirrored back glass and no foil art on the outside. Um, but the art blades on the inside are foiled. Um, okay. That's like King Kong if you guys okay. That's like King Kong if you guys have had or seen a King Kong Ellie, which I have a King Kong Ellie, which I just didn't want to put all the stuff in. Whether that was a smart decision in hindsight, I'm not going to go into that. But I do think the foil like does look pretty neat. Um, one thing they did on Kong, the the uh the lock bar and and armor was like matte. It wasn't their normal like glossy. Is that is it matte on the premium or pro or is it glossy? No, it's your normal glossy. Um and then No, it's your normal glossy. Um and then with the Spike 3, you get the inside and outside lights. Um and that all can be purchased for the premium or the pro now too, which is cool. Sure. Sure. Uh also on a pro you are getting um Uh also on a pro you are getting um protector. God, I'm blade protectors. Not art blade, but blade protectors. Not art blade, but like rails, you know, like the that go over the buttons. Oh. Oh. Um, yeah. What do they call it? Oh. Oh. Um, yeah. What do they call it? Flipper armor or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. You You get that on a pro. Yeah. Yeah. You You get that on a pro. Like that's cool. that's cool. Honestly, like it's such a small cost. I Honestly, like it's such a small cost. I think that should be on every pinball machine cuz that area gets a lot of wear and tear. Um, all right. The chat's really blowing Um, all right. The chat's really blowing up here. I want to give a few of these questions. So, Behemoth 3800 is saying that the uh the LEA is going to be uh mirrored. it just wasn't approved for media day, which is again, you know, that's probably some of their licenser back and forth they were dealing with. Um, can you talk about the cabinet lighting on the LE uh versus the other versions? Do the Pro and Premium seem extra dark? You can put the uh Spike 3 lights in a premium pretty easily. It's a modular system, at least last time. That's what they were talking about with Falling the Empire. So, and the Pro. and the Pro. And the Pro even better. I didn't know And the Pro even better. I didn't know that. Yep. Um, yeah, it wasn't much darker. It Yep. Um, yeah, it wasn't much darker. It just more gave that little extra sizzle, you know. Um, it's cool. The out the out side, I guess I personally don't care as much about because you really don't see it a whole lot when you're playing it, but I've never seen it or thought about it like right next to another game. Maybe that adds a little bit more element because it's bouncing off of another game. Sure. Um, but I mean, yeah, a kid Sure. Um, but I mean, yeah, a kid walking into a a space with a bunch of machines and if they see a Pokemon le, they're going to obviously go straight to that one. Um, so did you uh prefer the pro or the did you uh prefer the pro or the premium? Musket D is asking. Sure. Uh, I played the premium the most. Sure. Uh, I played the premium the most. Now I have to think operator brain and I have to think like financial cost brain. Like if no money was an issue, I'd buy the premium, but I would personally buy the Pro because you get all the sculpts, which is super cool. Like you get a Pokeball fully sculpted, you get a Pokemon or you get Pikachu fully sculpted, and you get the mouth balloon is the same exact thing on all three of them, which is amazing. Um, the only real difference is the left scoop or the left ramp turns into a scoop on the premium Ellie uh for catching a Pokemon. Pikachu's head moves. There's a magnet underneath the playfield or the battlefield which adds a little bit of chaos. But which adds a little bit of chaos. But that's not in the pro. that's not in the pro. That's not in the pro. But to be honest, That's not in the pro. But to be honest, once you shoot up there, like it already kind of bounces around enough. So for those who are like, man, I'd really like to save some money, you're not going to miss anything on the Pro. But for those who are like, I really want to get all the full package, like get the premium. You know, the the reason that question is relevant the the reason that question is relevant for people who are not into pinball like a ton and are curious is that the pros generally have played faster in the past because of certain mechs being missed and things like that. Thank you so much for the raid. We love pinball. I appreciate that. Uh we're hanging out talking about Uh we're hanging out talking about Pokemon uh Pokemon Pinball uh with Andrew from Minem Retro Gamer who went to the Stern media event day. So we have firsthand kind of feedback of what's going on. Let's talk about the the battle arena. Um, yeah. yeah. So, you when you were busy doing your So, you when you were busy doing your not being here while your phone was being stupid, uh, I was showing off its similarities to Junkyard and, uh, yes, I presented before we go down that road I presented before we go down that road that it's like this game is 30 years old, there's no reason that you can't iterate on like once you do a playfield concept, that doesn't mean that it's permanently locked off from ever being used again. As long as you're not just like straight ripping it off. And there are a lot of similarities. It is a fan layout. It does have a battle arena essentially with this like hanging crane mech that you bash the ball around and it hits targets. Um, did you feel like this game felt like Junkyard or is it just inspired by? I think more inspired because that pop I think more inspired because that pop bumper makes a big difference. Um, because there isn't a pop bumper on Junkyard and that area I mean that pop bumper gets hit quite a bit. Uh, also the one pop bumper are you talking about? pop bumper are you talking about? There's a pop bumper in here. Yeah, on the left side there. It's really hard to see. It's right behind the Pokeball. Um Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. So, it's I Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. So, it's I do like these utility pop bumpers. Although, it looks like there's another one in the in lanes or I'm sorry, the uh rollers. Big difference. Uh and then the one of Big difference. Uh and then the one of the things I don't like about Junkyard is that that cap that captive ball on the crane like always stays there. And so, if you want to try to hit a shot behind it, from my understanding, it doesn't move. Right. I don't think it lifts or anything like that. No, but it it just dangles. It dangle dangles. Dangle dangle dangles. Dangle dangle dangles. It always gets in the way. It always gets in the way. But on this like that goes up and down. But on this like that goes up and down. So when they want you to be hitting that captive toy, you hit it and then it goes up. You're done with it. So it's a very smart design. Um, it's super easy to get a multiball and even within a multiball I think you only have to hit four jackpots and then you get an add ball which always you know this is the primary mech kind of in the this is the primary mech kind of in the game and it's included in the pro as well. Yep. Yep. That's what I'm saying. Like Yep. Yep. That's what I'm saying. Like if you're worried about if your money's tight like you're not really going to be missing anything with a pro. If you're an operator get a pro. Like nobody no kid is going to be like oh it's a it's not a premium. like they're going to be thrilled that they're playing a Pokemon pinball machine. Sure. So, Sure. So, I mean, and that's I think really like I mean, and that's I think really like this is a game about theme integration first for people. Like you're not Like you're not you're not waiting for this game like a you're not waiting for this game like a like an Elwing game or something to see what the rules and layouts are and then care about the theme afterwards. I think that if you're interested in Pokemon Pinball, it's because you really love Pokemon and you're glad that they're making a Pokemon pinball machine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say think like Stranger Yeah. I would say think like Stranger Things and Jumpyard put together is how I describe the game because uh your ramps are this, you know, it's your typical three hit it three times, then you start the mode. You start uh Squirtle mode, you start Pikachu mode, you sp you start Charmander mode. Like it it's currently in its code right now, it's very much that. So it's like a like a attack from Mars kind of stack where it's just like you keep hitting the shot and then eventually it closes it out and there's like a is there a multiball associated when you log or close out all four of the different ramp shots or orbit shots? I did not I did not get to the spot of I did not I did not get to the spot of playing all four modes. I think I only got to three. Um, but there is many wizard modes like on the playfield. You can see uh there are some many wizard mode options and I think the the goal right now with the final thing is going to be something to do with Mewtwo, but I don't know if it's baked into the code yet or not. Gotcha. I mean, it's a pretty popular Gotcha. I mean, it's a pretty popular not villain, I guess, kind of villain character, but it's it's a well-known Pokemon. Thought it was. Yeah. Thought it was. Yeah. Sweet. Let's get some ads. So, this Sweet. Let's get some ads. So, this footage here is is from Cool Toy. Shout out to Doug at Cool Toy. Uh, I think that this is just really great footage of just the game being played. I'm going to let this kind of just run in the background while we talk more over it. Andrew, if you see anything on it that's relevant. Uh, please shout out. So, there there's four like kind of bookmark arrows in the center of the playfield. Uh, what's that? What is that? I'm Uh, what's that? What is that? I'm assuming those are the the modes associated with those characters. Again, I'm talking about that is the the mini wizard modes, but that is the the mini wizard modes, but again, I didn't get to those. Um, I mostly focused on multiballs and uh just like how to shoot the shots, which this compared to Star Wars, like if you complain about Star Wars being like too tight of shots, like this is super easy to shoot compared to Star Wars because there's probably three or four less shots available. Are we are we talking like Surf and Are we are we talking like Surf and Safari level of wide ramp? Because I feel like Surf and Savari is like that episode of Seinfeld where he like blacks out one of the like extra lanes on the freeway and it's like it's like that wide, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's an easy shooting game. Uh Yeah. No, it's an easy shooting game. Uh the right ramp has the total Gomez ramp feel of like Monster Bash, Lord of the Rings, you know, there there's something about Gomez's ramps that like there are times where you hit it and you're like, "Ah, I didn't hit it quite right." But somehow you still make the shot. Like there's still somehow enough inertia to get the ball up and around and you just I don't know. I can't explain how Gomez does it, but there's something about his ramps that are like buttery, you know, and it feels just like that. Um I vaguely remember Jack when I was there I vaguely remember Jack when I was there last media event, them talking about how Gomez is just like a mad scientist when it comes to like ramps or ramp iteration. Yeah, Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, he's he's it's great. it's weird. Yeah, he's he's it's great. I mean, that right ramp, I don't know if it's just not that steep or what it is, but it works really well. Uh, the left ramp is cool, too, because it's an actual jump, which that feels like a Jack Danger thing. I can't think of anything. Interesting. At what segment is the Interesting. At what segment is the jump? So, you know how it l goes up and loops So, you know how it l goes up and loops around and back down? Yeah. So, right where Yeah. Right. Basically, So, right where Yeah. Right. Basically, right where you had your cursor where there's going to be like a six, where there's going to be like a six, seven second delay, but Yeah. Yeah. It it jumps over it. Um, but that Yeah. It it jumps over it. Um, but that the cool thing about that is if you don't make the ramp all the way, it still is going to safely feed back down to your left in lane. Interesting. So, it just does an Interesting. So, it just does an automatic return. Uh, Gomez has said in his designs that the having balls that should be doing something also do something else is kind of like core to his kind of like philosophy is big and I I think that's seen here. Um, we got a handful of questions. I don't want to I don't want to leave chat hanging. Hold on a second. So, Dost asked you, "What are your thoughts on the collector value of the LE?" That's not really what our channel's about in terms of like value of games, but what I what do you think in terms of it? Yeah, I think I mean it's kind of Yeah, I think I mean it's kind of annoying and stupid how people are already selling it for like I think I saw a post the other day for like 30 grand. Yeah, [laughter] that's that's kind of Yeah, [laughter] that's that's kind of silly, but it's people's money to do what they want with. I wouldn't be surprised if Logan Paul I wouldn't be surprised if Logan Paul gets a hold of one of them and makes them just like stupid expensive and all of that. like, yeah, I think out of any of them, especially since there's only going to be 750. I think that, you know, don't quote me I think that, you know, don't quote me on this, but they're probably going to be one of the more valuable Ellies on the market compared to like you know, other ones. Um, you know, other ones. Um, DOS brings up the point that a lot of DOS brings up the point that a lot of collectors are going to miss out, and I think that's what's going to help drive that. Please remember, please remember that the pros and premiums do not have a limitation on how many are made. you will always be able to get this game in some capacity as long as it is on the line until it is put into the Stern vault and even then games are always sold and collectors need to make space. So, I don't know. I think FOMO needs to be something that isn't a deciding factor in pinball purchasing. However, if you really want an LE and and feel like you're going to miss out, then [ __ ] go for it, you know? Yeah. Um, Yeah. Um, but you can also they they've made it but you can also they they've made it much easier than ever to like leify like a premium or a pro. like a premium or a pro. Like you can get the same side art or Like you can get the same side art or the side blade lights and uh you can get a shaker motor. You can get art blades like you know you can even if you want get a powder coater to powder coat it purple just I mean there are services that do that I mean there are services that do that but I mean when you buy a game if you're not a pinball person the last thing you want to do is go do those things you don't you don't know who to reach out to for that it's just not condescentive to buying a new game. All right some more questions. Did uh Metanite wants to know how backhandable the ramps are. Uh I Uh I didn't try that too much because it flows really well. Did you see anybody else backhanding it? I mean, I guess if there's no risk on draining off people backhanding it. Um, that's the people backhanding it. Um, that's the nice thing about the left ramp is like if you don't get it all the way up, you still get it back down to your left flipper. Yeah, I'm not going to make the easy Yeah, I'm not going to make the easy joke about that. It's like it's like some Viagra. I'm just low hanging fruit. I'm not um um Yeah. Right. Uh, but yeah, I the thing Yeah. Right. Uh, but yeah, I the thing is is like it flows so well that there's not a whole lot of trapping up that I've done that that you do on it. like it just because the shots are so easy to hit. You just want to keep flipping. So, I mean, I got my own opinions about fan layouts I got my own opinions about fan layouts personally, like it's not always my favorite thing, but out of fan layouts, this was definitely my favorite to shoot. Like, I like it more than Stranger Like, I like it more than Stranger Things. I like it more than Star Wars. I like it more than Venom. Like, I I think it's one of the most accessible fan layouts I've ever played. All right, I'm going to give you rapid fire, so try to try to shrink your answer down to like yes or no. When does the when does the poke main Pokemon theme song play? Shout out to Roller Crisis, by the way. Shout out to Roller Crisis, by the way. I think it read Yeah, I think right when I think it read Yeah, I think right when you start it. I mean, that would make sense. That's I mean, that would make sense. That's what they did on Fall of the Empire. There was so much noise. There was so There was so much noise. There was so many machines all going on at the same time. It was hard to really think about that. Alan Robertson of Pinball wants to know, is there a way to sneak into the Meowth shot from the back like Elvra House of Horrors? Is there like a back door entrance to Is there like a back door entrance to that top? No, there's a total rail that gets No, there's a total rail that gets prevents that from happening from my understanding. Okay. Okay. Uh Dennis wants to know he's surprised Uh Dennis wants to know he's surprised that there's no Charizard sculpt on the table. No, No, because Are you surprised? Pikachu is the Are you surprised? Pikachu is the primary. [laughter] Yeah, Pikachu and Meowth make a lot of Yeah, Pikachu and Meowth make a lot of sense. and obviously a Pokeball. Um, Um, do you like Foo Fighters as an overall experience and shooting layout more? Yes. Um, personally, uh, when it came to Yes. Um, personally, uh, when it came to Jack Danger, uh, design, I he's my one of my favorite designers. And so, when I found out as a fan layout, I'm like, that doesn't feel like Jack Danger. Um, you know, it's a Jack Danger, Gomez you know, it's a Jack Danger, Gomez combination. And also, if I worked at Stern, I would have made it a family out, too, because it needs to appeal to a incredibly huge crowd. So, uh, this is an absolute excellent uh, this is an absolute excellent question. Remy Y, I don't know if I'm saying that correctly. 88. What does the action button do? Uh, it's a add a ball during your Uh, it's a add a ball during your multiball if you get it. Um, other than that, I don't think anything else is programmed yet. Um, somebody asked earlier, way earlier, what the code number was. Do you remember what the decimal? Because you can read a lot of what that does from I didn't need a book. I was too busy I didn't need a book. I was too busy just enjoying the game and hanging out with all the people that were there. See if we can see it when they starts See if we can see it when they starts here. Uh, you know, generally like the decimal iteration kind of defines how much the code has in it over time. Yeah, it still says licensing approval Yeah, it still says licensing approval on the back glass. Um, anybody worried about that though? Like anybody worried about that though? Like I challenge you to pick a Stern game that hasn't been brought to completion with its code. And I'm there have been plenty of games that came out that were like fairly bare bones, you know, like 007 comes to mind off the top of my head. Jaws was like a little light. People even complain that Godzilla didn't have a whole lot to do. And now like good lord, like those games have maybe even too much to do now, you know? Oh my god. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. So So I can't hear James Bond. I'm just like, I can't hear James Bond. I'm just like, yeah, roller coaster said John Wick John yeah, roller coaster said John Wick John Wick and X-Men, which is fair. Those games have not kind of been completely completed yet uh in in my opinion. But yeah, yeah, they have been updated. they have been updated. Yep. And and again, if you get the game Yep. And and again, if you get the game right out the right out the gate, like there is enough to do in it. Um so I I think it's a fun game. Um there is like ways to battle Pokemon, which I don't know if you have that video. Uh I don't how explain how that works and uh use that as a way to slide into if you get a rare Pokemon card with every p purchase because I know that was playing with that idea. No. Uh, they're they're not doing anything with cards. They're not doing anything with Nintendo. They're not doing anything currently with Pokemon Go. I don't know down the road if they'll change that, but currently it's only TV show. Um, sorry, what was your question again? Um, sorry, what was your question again? Uh, you were going to talk about the Uh, you were going to talk about the battling of Pokemon system, how that works. Uh, I don't know exactly how you get Uh, I don't know exactly how you get Well, you can catch a Pokemon, right? Um, there's certain shots you have to hit, then you have to hit the C. um a purple shot in the middle, then you have to hit a captive ball. After you hit that captive ball, then you have to hit the left ramp. Premium, you hit the scoop of the left ramp. Pro, you have to hit at least halfway up. Did you find that sequence of events to Did you find that sequence of events to do like overly easy, overly difficult, pretty easy, although um there is kind pretty easy, although um there is kind of like that tension of like, oh, I want to catch this Pokemon. And so, you know, when you play worse because you're like feeling the tension. I've never played bad pinball. I've never played bad pinball. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. Incredible. I know, right? Um, but yeah, Incredible. I know, right? Um, but yeah, I mean, you know, I was able to catch a handful of Pokemon, but there were definitely quite a few times that like I lost them because I was still learning the shots and all that. Uh, but then once you get the Pokemon, um, I don't know how it lights, but on the right scoop, kind of just like Godzilla, only a much easier scoop to hit, um, you're able to then battle a Pokemon. And there is like the paper rock scissors thing built into it, which is really cool. So like if you had Charmander and you're So like if you had Charmander and you're versing a grass type, you're going to do much better damage to that Pokemon than if you were like a water type against a grass type or something like that. Can you change what your Pokemon is that you're battling with? I'm assuming you battle by spelling battle inside the arena. I mean, that would be insane if that is not how you start it. I'm pretty sure you can, but I didn't do I'm pretty sure you can, but I didn't do it. Uh, what is this woman doing? Why is she what is this woman doing? Why is she cutting her egg up? Oh my god. Oh my god. Yeah. [ __ ] Look at that. Mr. Demon, I'm Yeah. [ __ ] Look at that. Mr. Demon, I'm George Gomez. [groaning] This doesn't have anything to do with pinball. Get out of here. Ad. I don't understand how those make so much money, but they do. Um, she brought me tea. I appreciate that. she brought me tea. I appreciate that. Thank you, Sid. By the way, group will start the battle and then I group will start the battle and then I only had one Pokemon whenever I did it. Hey. Hi. I only had one Pokemon when I did it. I only had one Pokemon when I did it. So, um, I never got the chance to choose different ones, so I don't I don't know. But um they did mention uh though when it comes to code like obviously they have phase 2 and phase three already in their mind. Um but obviously they got to get the Um but obviously they got to get the basics down uh to get the thing out on the market. They also mentioned if you're a fan of the show and if you have specific moments of the show, let them know because they want to know what are the like really big moments of the TV show and they want to put it in the game. I mean, that's fair. The TV show has been on for how long? I mean, there's probably I just the archive of footage is probably so overwhelming for them to have to dig through. Uh, I do want to give a special shout out. Serge from Pin Pin Pals is here. Uh, if you have not watched Electric Bat and his excellent, excellent commentary on it. I want everybody in chat right now to to tell Serge that he needs to be on the podcast. We have been he's warmed up to it. We're very close to him being on to talk about what it's like being the best pinball commentator. He's very humble. He doesn't want to talk about that, but it's the whole point of the episode is to get more people into podcasting and commentating on live events, and he is the best person to do that. So, don't be afraid, Serge. Uh, he also pointed out that apparently not after spelling battle is when you battle a Pokemon. Battle is lit automatically after you capture a Pokemon, which that does not make any sense to me whatsoever. But again, I haven't played this at all. So, oh, you know what? I think it's because oh, you know what? I think it's because battle is battling Team Rocket. Okay. [clears throat] when the balloon Okay. [clears throat] when the balloon comes down. But to be honest, Serge is going to know more than I am. And I've played the game and I don't think he has. Um I'm sure that they'll do an excellent uh pin pal's dive into that. Uh Serge generally has taken new games and kind of broken down both speculating how they actually function, which he did one for Winchester. Uh I was shocked at how accurate that was. He had talked to me a little bit, but there were things that in his video that he had just like kind of guessed how they may operate and was completely correct. So I pretty impressive. Um, Metanite Man says you need a Pokemon before you can battle. How do you acquire a Pokemon? Right. Uh, I don't remember exactly what Right. Uh, I don't remember exactly what the shots are, but eventually you have to for sure hit a It says hit a purple shot, which is within the battle area. It's either the three on the left or the three on the right. After you do that, or maybe it's the other way around. I'm trying to remember off the top of my head. You have to hit that captive ball, which is actually three captive balls, which is really cool. Um, pull a shot on it. It's over here on the pull a shot on it. It's over here on the uh I'm sorry, you can't see my mouse cursor. It's just to the left of the yellow ramp. Uh, yep. It's really cool. Uh, and when Uh, yep. It's really cool. Uh, and when you look at it, you're like, how is that going to work? But man, when you hit it, it just goes boom boom like really fast. It's all three. And that's uh people have been saying that's a little bit like a game I used to own which was uh Judge Dread had the very similar sequence on the far right. There's like these three reactors. I think it did like either add a ball or extra ball. It was like a pretty important shot in the game. But these kind of cascading kinetic balls, captive balls are really cool. I'm glad to see it in a game. Yep. So once you hit that, then the Yep. So once you hit that, then the Pokeball on the left is lit for you to capture your Pokemon. Sure. Um, I'm not sure to be honest what shots Um, I'm not sure to be honest what shots you have to hit to start that phase though, but maybe Serge does know, right? Chime in Serge if you know. right? Chime in Serge if you know. Raphan says, "I would like Stern users to be able to adjust the volume of the music shout outs and effects directly on the device." Well, if you have a barrel of fun machine, you can do that because I added that functionality to it. So, [laughter] um, um, yeah, I mean, Eric did, but you know, yeah, I mean, Eric did, but you know, my food my food because doing the thing I'm saying. Um, because doing the thing I'm saying. Um, don't play too young. What does that even mean, Zap? Uh, all right. So, yeah. What does the captive ball chain do again? I know you just said this, but Well, it it's supposed to be the Pokédex Well, it it's supposed to be the Pokédex shot. So, currently in the code, it is for uh identifying a Pokemon. So, it's kind of like you know that there's a Pokemon out there, but you don't know what or which one. And once you hit that, then it identifies what it is um in order to actually catch it. All right, we got Serge has chimed in. All right, we got Serge has chimed in. You ready? So, capturing Pokemon is this process. Step one, random switches trigger for the 182 Pokemon available in the game. Step two, you mash the captive ball. Step three, you hit the purple lit standups to spell catch. I'm guessing those are like just to the left of the captive ball here. Um there we go. There's two more over on this side. Uh, and then when you spell catch, step four, the Pokemon is lit on the left capture ramp, which I'm guessing is the Pokeball. Is that right, Andrew? Yeah, Yeah, this blue shot. this blue shot. Uh, and then Uh, and then five, you battle at the lit at the right five, you battle at the lit at the right scoop. You know, I didn't even realize there was a scoop over here. Look at that. Yeah, Yeah, that's like the the Godzilla scoop, that's like the the Godzilla scoop, right? Where once those things are lit, if you hit it, you do those things that are lit, right? You got battle, travel, mystery, right? You got battle, travel, mystery, and extra ball, which is fairly similar to the the four that are on uh at le battle and and travel definitely are identical to the uh scoop on on Godzilla, right? right? Um Um Joe Bob, we kind of talked about that. He asked if you could backhand the left ramp on the Pro. It's too steep. Andrew doesn't remember directly, but you did say that you saw enough people backhanding that it seemed like it was a thing. I played the premium a lot more than the I played the premium a lot more than the Pro. um just because for some reason the pre the pro was busy a lot. Not that the premium isn't good, but I don't know why it seemed like people maybe wanted to experience the pro and then the Ellie was right next to it. So you right next you had the two. Um yeah, because you got the ramp with the yeah, because you got the ramp with the jump. Um to be honest, I don't want to I don't want to be quoted as Yes, you can. You're not going to get quoted. This is, You're not going to get quoted. This is, as much as I like to be a legitimate news source. This is basically a speculation live video with your experience. Um, Tatter D has a really excellent question though, I would like to talk about that. Uh, well, he said he's excited to play it, but he's asking if the game serves to train inexperienced players in the language of pinball. Have did you notice was there anything in this that seemed like it was babying people that may not know what pinball is? There's a lot of great call outs There's a lot of great call outs already. Um there's, you know, hit the captive ball, hit the purple. Yeah, but are they like a captive ball Yeah, but are they like a captive ball is a ball held behind metal brackets and stuff like that. [laughter] Um and stuff like that. [laughter] Um nothing like that. Uh a lot of the assets on the back glass, like even when you're in a battle, it'll show like the health, but you can tell that like it's not fully finished yet with the graphic. So there may be some stuff that they do, but I mean, you know, we're in this weird small niche of a of a hobby that like most people that do pinball, they're just like, "Oh, you just got to keep the ball going." I can't tell you how many times I've told people that there are rules to the game. And they're like, "Oh, really?" Um, so I think that a lot of it's just going so I think that a lot of it's just going to be for casuals the most fun that they can have on a pinball machine, you know? Uh DJR has a question which actually I have a question that kind of follows that up. He said it he knows it's noisy in there but did it sound good in terms of bass and stereo saturation. Before you dive into that, Gomez told me last time I was there that they were going to there were the new iterations of Spike 3 in the future were going to have concealed boxes around the speakers to act as proper wave guides for it so that there wouldn't be any kind of like frequency cancellation and other issues that happen when you put speakers inside of a giant box with another speaker. So, I'm curious if they did you get to see inside of it and was any of that involved? No, no, we didn't. No, no, we didn't. No, it's not in there or No, you didn't No, it's not in there or No, you didn't get to see in it. We didn't get to see inside the machine. We didn't get to see inside the machine. We did open up a Star Wars, but you know, I know what the inside of that looks I know what the inside of that looks like. They don't have any Yeah, they didn't do that. Uh, so no, we did not get to see inside. Uh, so no, we did not get to see inside. Um, but it did sound good. I mean, the Spike 3 system is already better. Uh, I don't think you need to get the pen sound amplifier or anything like that anymore. Unless if you're off die hard when it comes to that kind of stuff. Those pin sound speakers are really Those pin sound speakers are really amazing. I will say I've noticed that even like the King Kong LE, which has the stern upgraded speakers. Granted, this is Spike 2. Uh, the Pinound ones are still substantially better in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Um, [clears throat] sure. Um, [clears throat] sure. Uh, what's up, Sign Out? Pun Daddy's Uh, what's up, Sign Out? Pun Daddy's here. If you guys want to hear a really dumb dad joke, I'm sure he'll throw one out there. Um, yeah, keep those keep those questions firing if you have any more. Uh, I don't Do you like this game, Andrew? Yeah. So, people ask me, would you buy Yeah. So, people ask me, would you buy it? And, um, as an operator, absolutely. As a home use owner, I think I'd wait a year, but I'm also the type of person that buys used games. Um, I am a Pokemon fan, but I haven't been as much into it as it's more of a nostalgia thing for my childhood. Uh, I remember when Pokemon cards came out and it just took over our entire school. Like it was insane. And the TV show and the video games and all that stuff. And so if you're a fan of that, like that's right up that alley. I mean, all of the art is that same kind of vibe. The back glass. They're trying to make it look just like the '9s, all that stuff. Um, I again I'm not as big of a fan of fan layouts. Not trying to make a pun there. Um, but uh I don't know if it would be Here's what I say. I would sell my Stranger Things to get this game. Oh, interesting. Oh, interesting. You know, if that helps with answering You know, if that helps with answering that question. So, I mean, they're both fan layouts. Do you I mean, they're both fan layouts. Do you think Stranger Things is uh Oh, man. I can't do the full screen because you're not in the middle. Ah, fine. Uh, but Stranger Things, there's only but Stranger Things, there's only certain moments that you can do something up the middle, right? like you got your drop targets and then you've got when the thing comes down and you can shoot through it and all that, but like you're really limited to the left and you're really limited to the left and right side of the playfield for most of Stranger Things play where this like there's a lot more to do in the middle playfield. That's fair. Um, what's up Dustin Echo? That's fair. Um, what's up Dustin Echo? What up original OG uh Great Pyramid? Throw it up. Um, Roller Coasters is asking what the most common drains are. Did you notice if it was like heavy in one area or the other? Yeah. Um, it really wasn't that. It was Yeah. Um, it really wasn't that. It was more down the center and that was just a scale issue. Uh, this the games are also super slick because they're brand new, you know. Um, but I would say probably the right Um, but I would say probably the right more than the left uh out of the two. But um, also I will say the LE or sorry, the premium like seems to lean a little bit to the right. Both Ian from Nudge and I noticed that right away. Do you think that was because of leveling or I mean I'm assuming they leveled their games cuz that's actually not true. The Star Wars weren't totally level when they were in there. I don't know if that's just for what reason? But machines can be very sensitive to being at a correct angle and at a correct levelness. I know Barrels of Fun games can be like that and getting it dialed in is like really kind of critical for flow. So yeah, it was just a level thing more yeah, it was just a level thing more than anything. Um which is totally understood. Like they've got so much that they're doing. I'm sure they games up and didn't worry too much about that. Uh Joel Bob says that the boxes are or that they are in the Walking Dead remake. We have one at Ace Cody. I'm going to pop that open if Shane will let me. I want to check it out. Um I'm sure it's in the Pokemon. Yeah. So I mean if it's in that, there's Yeah. So I mean if it's in that, there's no reason that they wouldn't put it in Pokemon. And I'm sure that they want I mean Stern wants their games to sound awesome. And this what these boxes do is essentially shield the speakers from being affected by what another speaker is doing so that it can produce better sound the direction that it's supposed to be going. Um he also asked if I put a pinwoer kit in my labyrinth or Dune. I haven't. The barrel systems come with a fairly beefy like 5- in uh mid-range and tweeter combo along with like a fairly big 8 in sub if I remember correctly. Those dimensions may not be totally right. Um so I've been fairly happy with it. I have seen people on pin sound or pins saying that they have upgraded the pinwolfer kit in their games and have been impressed by it. So I might do it just for fun out of curiosity. Um, again, if you do that, you need to know that the sensitivity of those speakers and those frequency ranges are not designed for how I had done the EQs and loudness for the game. So, you will have to adjust your game. If you are putting a subwoofer under your game, if you're putting third party speakers in your game and you're wondering why things sound different, you don't like it, bro, that's on you. Those are not the speakers that are supposed to be in the game. So, you're going to have to figure out how to dial it in, which I'm happy to help you with if you want to hit me up on pins and if I have time. But uh yeah, just FYI to also adjust things. Yeah, you can adjust the volume of all Yeah, you can adjust the volume of all the different categories independently. There the EQ is built into the Backbox amp right now, which I've talked about in previous videos. Uh there's currently no software EQ. I'm struggling with whether that is something that we should or want to put in just because some people on pin side are more confused having more options and are less confused with others. So, I'm struggling with whether I want to like simple it to like more treble, more bass, and have it do like a like a shelf EQ on it on each sides. But in any event, side tangent alone, no, I have not put side tangent alone, no, I have not put pinwoers in my Labradon yet. I'd love to give a quote from Gary Stern I'd love to give a quote from Gary Stern about Pokemon. He was like, "I don't know anything about Pokemon, but this is the type of game that grandpa will buy and win Christmas when all of the grandkids come over." And like, you know, obviously like he's thinking about it of his age range, right? But like, yeah, if if you are that age range and you're looking for a a toy to have for when your grandkids come over, like get Pokemon Pinball. Um, also if your grandpa buys you a pinball machine, you've got the coolest [ __ ] grandpa on the planet. Grandpa, [laughter] Grandpa, [laughter] seriously, get you that grandpa. Send seriously, get you that grandpa. Send him my way. I'll take your grandpa. Give me your grandpa. My grandpa. My grandpa. But yeah, um, he's totally right in that But yeah, um, he's totally right in that that like you don't need to know anything about Pokemon for you to enjoy the game or for other people to enjoy the game. So yeah, seriously though, yeah, seriously though, give me your grandpa. give me your grandpa. Give me your grandpa. Give me your grandpa. Give me your grandpa. Give me your grandpa. Give me