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Episode 68: Guns and Roses Rumors! CGC Rumors! What to expect this Fall???

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Aug 19, 2020
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TL;DR

Guns N' Roses and Cactus Canyon remasters rumored for fall release; playfield printing concerns discussed.

Summary

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast Episode 68 covers two major rumors from a reliable anonymous source: a Guns N' Roses pinball machine by Stern (rumored for September/October release with hand-drawn skeleton band members, internet connectivity, Bose sound system, and concert footage on LCD) and a Chicago Gaming Company Cactus Canyon remaster (October/November release with new code). The hosts discuss playfield printing quality issues affecting recent Stern releases and celebrate upcoming machines like TMNT Premium.

Key Claims

  • Guns N' Roses pinball will have hand-drawn artwork with band members in skeleton form

    high confidence · Poor Man's Pinball Podcast hosts citing reliable anonymous source

  • Guns N' Roses pinball rumored for September/October 2024 release

    medium confidence · Anonymous source quoted by Drew and Ian

  • Guns N' Roses will feature concert footage on LCD screen

    high confidence · Anonymous source confirmation on podcast

  • Cactus Canyon remaster will have completely new code

    high confidence · Anonymous source to Poor Man's Pinball Podcast

  • Cactus Canyon remaster rumored for October/November 2024 release

    medium confidence · Anonymous source to Poor Man's Pinball Podcast

  • Recent Stern games have grainy/pixelated playfield artwork due to printing methods, not quality control issues

    medium confidence · Host observation confirmed by Chris Franchi in chat

  • Stern's Guns N' Roses will have internet connectivity

    medium confidence · Anonymous source, hosts note this rumor has been floating around

  • Guns N' Roses expected pricing around $13,000-$13,500

    low confidence · Host speculation based on conversation with friend Eric

Notable Quotes

  • “Our work's going to be hand drawn and the band members will be in skeleton form. What do you think about that? I think it's awesome. I think it is timeless and very cool, especially given, you know, obviously it's a nod to Appetite for Destruction.”

    Hosts discussing Guns N' Roses rumor @ ~45:00 approx — Core design confirmation for rumored Guns N' Roses machine

  • “Cactus Canyon. We're looking at an October slash November release... it's going to be a complete game. New code, kids. That is exciting. Finished. New, shiny code with bells and whistles.”

    Drew (Poor Man's Pinball Podcast host) @ ~65:00 approx — Major announcement about Chicago Gaming Company remaster scope and timeline

  • “Christopher French, he says it's a printing issue. Okay. Which is, which is what, thank you Christopher. Appreciate it brother.”

    Host acknowledging Chris Franchi's explanation @ ~25:00 approx — Expert confirmation of printing quality issues in recent Stern releases

  • “Guns N' Roses has sold 100 million records. Queen has sold 200 million. Double bit.”

    Hosts discussing band popularity/record sales @ ~50:00 approx — Context for comparing musical icons in pinball licensing

  • “I think they're trying to reach a larger audience. To your point, I don't think that Cactus Canyon gets everyone excited, but if they release Goonies, I think everyone will get excited.”

    Host discussing Chicago Gaming Company strategy @ ~85:00 approx — Analysis of CGC's market positioning and theme selection strategy

Entities

Poor Man's Pinball PodcastorganizationStern PinballcompanyChicago Gaming CompanycompanyChris FranchipersonGuns N' RosesproductCactus CanyonproductTMNT PremiumproductCreature from the Black LagoonproductTim Leeperson

Signals

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    machine_intel: Guns N' Roses pinball by Stern confirmed via reliable anonymous source with specific design details: hand-drawn skeleton band members, internet connectivity, high-end sound system (Bose), concert footage on LCD

    high · Direct quote from anonymous source via hosts: artwork hand-drawn with skeleton members, internet connectivity mentioned, Bose sound system, concert footage on LCD screen

  • ?

    machine_intel: Guns N' Roses rumored for September/October 2024 release; Cactus Canyon rumored for October/November 2024 release

    medium · Hosts state 'September, possibly October' for Guns N' Roses and 'October slash November release' for Cactus Canyon from anonymous source

  • ?

    product_concern: Recent Stern games (TMNT, Jurassic Park) exhibiting grainy/pixelated playfield artwork; identified as printing method issue rather than quality control defect; affects artwork longevity

    medium · Hosts observed similar issues on multiple recent Stern games; Chris Franchi confirmed as printing issue via chat; hosts note this may affect restoration in 20 years

  • ?

    product_concern: TMNT Premium has magnetized ball issue with turtle wagon lock mechanism; balls stick on magnet causing post timing issues and incomplete multiball transitions

    high · Hosts discuss issue where balls get magnetized going through magnet and stick, preventing post from staying open long enough for ball release; noted as solvable by changing balls

  • ?

    design_innovation: Guns N' Roses will feature concert footage on LCD screen; hosts note this would be novel for music pinball theme with licensed footage

Transcript

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages, step right up. It's time for the one, the only, The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Welcome, guys, to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. This is episode number 68. We are doing this live. This is our first attempt at Facebook Live. A couple of weeks ago, we did Twitch. Can't be worse than Twitch. Nothing's worse than that train wreck. But here we are. We're trying it again. As per use, we are without notes, thanks to this guy right here. That's me. See, now when I point and gesture, you guys actually know what's going on. This motherfucker didn't do his homework. Usually he says, yep, this fucking guy didn't do what he was supposed to do, and yeah, this guy didn't. It's been a long week, but part of the reason is because, like I said, we're doing this. We're still kind of working out a couple small kinks, but it seems that today the feed and TUESDAY 7 ni 10 PM P upsetting news .
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high · Anonymous source confirmation; hosts acknowledge this is different approach from previous music-themed pinballs like Aerosmith (which used cartoony animated concert footage)

  • ?

    product_strategy: Chicago Gaming Company's Cactus Canyon remaster will feature completely new code with expanded features, following successful formula of Attack from Mars and Monster Bash remasters

    high · Hosts state 'New code, kids. That is exciting. Finished. New, shiny code with bells and whistles' and reference pattern from previous CGC remasters

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    market_signal: Chicago Gaming Company using original content and licensing strategy to reach broader audience beyond hardcore pinball collectors; example given that Goonies would have mass appeal vs Cactus Canyon's niche western theme

    medium · Host analysis: 'I think they're trying to reach a larger audience... if they release Goonies, I think everyone will get excited' vs Cactus Canyon's limited appeal

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    rumor_hype: Guns N' Roses expected to price at $13,000-$13,500 based on host speculation and comparison to Beatles and other licensed games

    low · Host states 'maybe $13,000, $13,500' based on conversation with tribe member; acknowledges 'it all depends on the license cost'

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    content_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast attempting Facebook Live streaming as alternative to Twitch; first live episode with technical adjustments

    high · Hosts state 'This is our first attempt at Facebook Live' and 'A couple of weeks ago, we did Twitch. Can't be worse than Twitch'

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    personnel_signal: Tim Lee filled in as guest host for previous episode while Drew was on vacation; hosts praised his performance

    high · Drew thanks Tim Lee for stepping in, states 'Tim freaking killed it. Showing us up, man. He brought some knowledge, brought some fucking know-how.'

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    community_signal: Chris Franchi releasing alternate translite artwork for Creature from the Black Lagoon; available in fall with pre-orders open

    high · Hosts discuss Franchi's teased alternate translite; Ian confirms pre-order placed; availability noted as 'fall' release window

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    venue_signal: Hosts discussing personal collection management; multiple classic games (Stars, Firepower, Meteor) available for sale or in restoration; TMNT Premium incoming

    high · Hosts mention coordinating sales from Green Bay, having games 'on blocks,' needing powder coating, and managing delivery logistics for TMNT Premium

    • NOAA Watson PlayStation and NOAA pattern inspection Rumor mill. We're doing it. We got, I would say, a reliable source, so we'll talk about that in a little bit. We got some cool rumors for a couple of cool games that are coming out here shortly. Yup. And that's that. So how's your week been going, man? I was on vacation last week. You and Tim did a great job. Thank you, Tim Lee, for stepping in and filling in for me. Tim freaking killed it. Showing us up, man. He brought some knowledge, brought some fucking know-how. He killed it. Yeah, I just bring sarcasm and fucking asshole-ism, if that's even a word. But yeah, no. Is that like alcoholism? Yeah, kind of. Asshole-ism. I bring that too.
    4:08
    But no, you guys did a great job last week. How was it? It was awesome. Other than a couple of technical things and me kind of learning how to edit and stuff, I think... Yeah, I was really hoping for a third intro. We only got two in there.
    4:23
    Yeah, I hit, I used the copy and paste button a little bit too much, I think. That's all right. A little too liberal, but you know. Were you trying to do more like an echoing effect with multiple layers of audio there? Yes. Trying to go a little Enya? Yes. Trying to go a little Enya, channel your Enya? Now you can see my sarcasm too. Yes, that's what I was going for. Uh-huh. It wasn't a mistake because I was editing while I was drinking.
    4:46
    Brought to you by Screwball. Yeah. Screwball whiskey. Anything your podcast since 2019. Not drinking screwball today, though. What you drinking, buddy?
    4:57
    Oh, we can show them. And you won't spill it. Maybe. Don Q, double aged rum, vermouth, cask finish. There it is, kids.
    5:11
    That stuff. Yes. A little bit of that, a little bit of ice, some Coke, and I'm living the dream. Beautiful. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. All right, guys, that's all news. What do you got? You got something on Laser War. I'm looking at it right now. She's looking like she's not in pieces, but she's... Laser War's on blocks right now. Yeah, I'm looking at it, too. Had to jack her up. Yeah, I wanted to play me some Laser War because we did our Facebook tribe member live poor man's happy hour. Zoom, basically. Zoomed. Facebook. Zoomed with the tribe. It was a lot of fun. And of course, I had to pee, and then I was talking to my wife, and then I come down here. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Lyman F. Sheats Jr., orbit ramps, Automated Amusements, Python Anghelo, Joe Kaminkow, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I've stuck a dick. Oh, whatever. I fixed a few burnt. I fixed a burnt out GI on my F-14. So, you know, my name's true. Oh, whatever. I just I just learned how to be cheap because, you know, I can't I spend all my money on pinball machines and I can't pay anyone to fix them. I got some other pinball news. So, yeah, Laser Warrior, that's that's under construction right now. We went to Disney on Ice last year, OK, with my my my beautiful daughter. I'm a beautiful wife and on Disney and Ice, if you've never been, it's probably the most expensive merch you can get as far as Chinese shit plastic light up toys. I mean, they're bad at the usual parades. You get the shitty $5 plastic light up wands and you wave them around. Swords and wands. They play that game at Disney and Ice, but they don't fuck around with charging you, man. The Wally Winka Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
    8:48
    John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Lyman F. Sheats Jr., orbit ramps, Automated Amusements, Python Anghelo, Joe Kaminkow, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I got a call today and normally I would say something like, hey, when this airs, you know, I'll have my turtles. But since we're live, I'm going to say no. They called me today and we set it up for Wednesday. So turtles is coming on Wednesday. I'm pretty excited about that. Nice. So Turtles Premium is in route. So Wednesday morning, I have the early slides like nine to noon or something. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Knapp Arcade, John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Larry Kizrow, Tim Kitzrow,
    11:07
    Some people live out of town, so like they can't get here. And I understand that. One guy, him and his buddy want to buy two of the games. And I'm like, that's awesome. But you know, they live in Green Bay, so it's a few hours away. So trying to coordinate that isn't easy. Womp womp. Yeah. So if you're listening, boys in Green Bay. So I have down here. I have a stars for sale. I have a laser. Fuck. See, I don't even know I have for sale. I have a firepower. No, no laser key. I think I'm keeping. Yeah. So I have stars. I have firepower. Meteor still needs to get put back together and get powder coated, and then I'll have that one as well. So like I said, maybe two of them. Definitely one. One just has to go. One way or the other, one has to go. Or it is going in the garage, which is fine. So there you go. Oh, I got some other pinball news. Have at it. Came out today. Franchi, Chris Franchi, one of my favorite pinball artists, if not the... Super awesome pinball party pinball show. There we are. Yeah, he just teased an alternate translate for Creature from the Black Lagoon. I saw that, and I meant to ask, that would put you over the edge to buy one now, wouldn't it? Oh, well, I already ordered a translate from him. I mean, you have to get a light box or the actual game itself. Oh, that's awesome. But I am definitely getting one. Does he have any left? Well, they're available in fall. I pre-ordered one. How about that? Okay. And these are prints, so he might just print a bunch of them, right? I don't know. I think they might be... Oh, like... It'll depend on what he does. Okay. He wasn't very clear. Got it. But if they're prints or if they're translates or whatever... That would be so badass. I want one. Yes. So... I saw that thing. I thought of you immediately, and I was like, Ian might actually take the plunge on this game now. Well, I'll definitely take a plunge on a translate. Well, yeah. Ian's like, oh, $140, $200, whatever. But, yeah.
    13:01
    Well, cool. So check it out. What is it? Metal Luna 5 Media? The Meta Luna Meta Luna So check out Franchi's stuff. He always has good stuff. Everyone knows that. Yeah, that could look really awesome. That fucker can draw. I'm not a huge creature fan, but man, I saw that and I was like, it's just so good. His favorite things to draw are plant life and bumps on lizard men. Yeah, he sounded excited about it. Yeah, he was very excited. Because he's very satisfied with it. He thought it was a satisfying job. Satisfying subject matter and everything about it was satisfying. All right, let's go into last week's episode, because you and Tim were talking about some The Wally Winka Show, Knapp Arcade, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, And Franchi would probably be the expert at this, but I will just say that I have been in front of a Guardians, a Beatles, a Batman 66, and that artwork looks so crisp and clean and beautiful.
    14:42
    So it's not happening to Franchi games, clearly, or in the Munsters. I've been in front of a Munsters and that always looks great. Is this grainy artwork a printing issue or is this grainy artwork a artist issue with scaling? No, I don't. Yeah, we should have reached out to Chris Franchi because he would probably have some take on this because he knew the printing process. He was in chat. Let's see if he's still in chat. Yeah. We got a little bit of a delay on this Facebook thing. Yeah, so here's my take on it. So after Tim and I talked, and Tim did look closer at his turtles, and he did notice what everyone was talking about, so he did have it on his pro. Then what I did is I looked at my Jurassic Park, and I noticed similar stuff, where it was... All these things. I don't know if pixelated is the word, but it looks like, and I don't want to say printing error. I just think it's the method they use, but to Ian's point about Oktoberfest, I think it's a common method. And then what some people have said, and I don't, um, Christopher French, he says it's a printing issue. Okay. Which is, which is what, thank you Christopher. Appreciate it brother. Thanks buddy. Um, so people were saying, you go back to the old days. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Larry K. Sheats Jr., Print better. So I don't know. And I don't know if they're using the same methods as Jersey Jack and American Pinball and whatever, because supposedly Stern does some of that in-house. Like Charlie, Charlie does his in-house, and I did not notice that on Alice Cooper, so I don't know. But yeah, definitely a printing issue. There was a guy on the Pinball Network that he was- It's going to be hard to touch up these blurry playfields. Yep. 20 years down the line.
    16:54
    No, it's easier because then you don't have to be perfect. Right. Add some more dirt on it. It'll look better. I can draw pixels.
    17:03
    Big old, big old pixels. There you go. Square pixels. Yeah, there you go. Hexagons, Franchi? Hexagons? Hexagons, squares, we got it. So, a little disappointing, but I just, I don't think, I don't think it's a... I was just curious. I've never heard of it. Yeah, correct. I don't think it's an error and I don't think it's a quality control thing. I think it's just the method, the print that they do. Got it. All right. What else is going on with turtles? What other issues do they have? Well, so on the pros, they were having an issue with the lock for the turtle wagon is underneath the wagon. It doesn't open up on the pro. There's just a lock behind it that holds three balls. Then when you get the four ball multiball, the post comes down. The problem they found out is when those balls were going through the magnet, they would actually, some of them would get magnetized. So the balls were sticking and then the post would just go down for a split second and the ball wouldn't have enough time to, because it would kind of be like sticking and it wouldn't have enough time to release as I understand it. So that's a personal problem I have. Magnetized balls? Well, they're sticky. They're very sticky all the time. Sticky balls. Do you think they're getting magnetized? Mine are magnetized. Yours are sticky. Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, I'm gonna hit the Magna save. Whoa! I'm okay. And that's the kind of fun stuff you don't see when we're just podcasting. Drew sticking his hiccup on the table there. Don't hit the Magna save. Sensitive. So that was one. And then there was one other crap, and I can't even remember. There was a third issue that some people were asking. Hey, is it fun? That's the thing. Fuck yeah, it's one of those. Is it pinball, baby? No, so the thing with the post, you change the balls out, you're good to go. Story of my life. Easy peasy. No issues there. Story of my life, man. All right, so what else happened last week that you and Tim talked about that I wanted to get in on?
    19:12
    So much. Yeah, we did. That bromance is thick between you two. Oh, love me some Tim Lee. Do you think there's going to be kids involved in your future, or are you guys done with kids at this point in your life? Yeah, he's got kids. I got a kid. We're done. You're done? We're done. All right. Metal balls and all, huh? Mm-hmm. Him and I would be the type, we might drink some fireball and coke on the porch together in our rocking chairs. Yeah. And he'd tell you you're not rocking well enough and you're like, well, you pour a shitty drink and- Yeah, you know, for a nice guy- And then you guys will make out for a half hour. He jabs you in the ribs pretty hard. He is. He's like this super nice guy, but he has this way about him that he can- You just want to slap. Yes. No, I'm kidding. No, absolutely I want to slap Tim Lee. So, Tim Kitzrow is a really good guy. He likes, he like, you know, he just kind of like pokes you in the kidney like this and he just keeps kind of taking it in there, you know, and then, and then he pulls it out and then he just says, oh, how was that? Ah, fine, yeah, fine. So no, I was, it was fun though. You know, Tim, Tim Lee is always a good time. Well, thank you again, Tim, for filling in last week. I appreciate it. They said, no, we talked about turtles. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. urry variable mixtures IU 53b, We have another new segment with this button as well. I'm just gonna keep pressing it. It is what it is. It's happening. You know actually when we first set up this stream deck I envisioned this You and I would be having a moment like this and we would just be kind of like pushing buttons for no reason Cheese slices baby Yep and we be just like fighting over it and pushing more buttons Well, the night is young. Lots of buttons to be pushed. Our live career is still young my man. Alright, so let's get into rumors, alright, facts if you will. Let's get into the facts. Facts, alright. No, no, no. Good sources here. Good sources. We do. We have a very reliable source. They want to remain anonymous, which is cool, because we don't want to call anybody out. But Ian and I have some cool stuff about two new upcoming titles. And I don't think any of this is going to ruin anyone's enjoyment of the game. Like, we're not spoiling something so bad. No, no.
    22:21
    Spoiler alert, but these are weak spoilers, guys, so if you get real upset... That's fair. That's fair. It is what it is. Some of these things kind of have already been floating around there. Yep, yep. We're just confirming them with our facts. We need a fact button. We'll just keep doing that. I'll just follow your lead. How many minutes will you guys stick around if we just do this? All right, all right, all right. First one. First rumor. Yeah, I know. The guys that are listening to this have no idea what the fuck just happened. We were doing the quotations. I can't even use words now. All right. Fact number one. Our work's going to be hand drawn and the band members will be in skeleton form. What do you think about that? I think it's awesome. I think it is timeless and very cool, especially given, you know, obviously it's a nod to Appetite for Destruction. One of the greatest albums of all time. All the best to you. I'm going to go ahead and end this. I'm going to go ahead and wrap up this one. Real quick, I got into a conversation with a friend of ours, Tribe member Eric, number four, is he? I don't remember. I think he's five. Five. Okay. Well, I got- We love you, Eric. We were talking about, I was kind of sharing some of this stuff with him, and we were talking So we were talking about this verse, the rumored Queen from Stern and then it came up, what do you think is more popular? Guns N' Roses or Queen? As a band, as music over the span of time. Queen's been around probably 10 years longer, but you know, Guns N' Roses has been around almost our whole life. Queen's more iconic. And you would be right. Can you guess how many records Queen has sold versus how many records Guns N' Roses has sold? No, I have no idea. Okay. So I learned, I didn't know either. So I looked up Guns N' Roses first and according to Wikipedia, because these are Wikipedia facts, that's the quotation for you podcast people are doing the quotation marks. Every time we say facts and pause. Just pretend Ian and I are looking in the camera and making quotation marks. Or don't because it's stupid. Or go back on Facebook and rewatch the show. Oh, there you go. Love it. That's fine. Look at Ian with all the ideas. 100 million. 100 million records. Jesus Christ. That's a lot of records, right? That is a lot. Very fucking popular. Yeah. Now what about Queen? 200 million. You got it. Yeah, right around 200. I think it was a little less. I think it was like 190, but yeah, way to go. Double bit. Yeah, but then Led Zeppelin came up because Led Zeppelin was another rumor. Hey, guys! John is here with Mike insider. So give us a call시�iion.com and because we did C课 another couple of hours ago we decided to do another episode I think and it's just got a lot available, so thanks everyone for tagging along. You'll get to see some experience from some pro rats that, you know, live here, right? Dave. You know I mean I've heard the word live in the room a essentially know that if The Spirit of Guns N' Roses The No, very cool. I'm very excited. Do we know who's doing the art? Do you know? I know we do not. I think I think Jersey Jack's from what I understand. It's the same guy that has that UC I think it's John use Okay, you see song guy. Well check these out. These are my facts facts. Yeah, maybe. I can't remember. But But I believe, yeah, it's been the same guy for the last few releases, maybe all the releases. Brian Cosner says, Beatles, Day of the Dead Edition. Love it, man. See? I like it. People like it. All right. Cool. Branchy, you need to do a special edition now. Stern, are you listening? Yeah. How many of those do you think they'd sell? Three. Yeah. All the Brian Cosner. OK, here we go. The next one, it'll be internet connected. That one's kind of been floating around. Connectivity of the Internet. Connectivity. So what are they going to do with the connectivity? I don't know. I mean, yeah, that's... What's this Internet? Yeah, that's what we've talked about that. We don't need to go over that. All right, we heard it. All right, the next one, we heard the sound system is going to be a Bose sound system. How do you feel about that? Well, I don't know if it's Bose specifically, but it's going to be like a high-end sound system. High fidelity? Which is cool. And once again, when you're paying whatever you're paying for that, whether it's the LE or the collector's edition, you should have a pretty substantial amount of money. Yeah, I think that's a good thing. and sound system high fidelity which is which is cool and and once again when you're paying whatever you're paying for that whether it's the le or the collector's edition you should have a a pretty substantial sound system in there you know it doesn't have to be like you know a thousand dollar sound system but it needs to be you know something with some some oomph to it if drew's metal balls aren't rattling i don't want anything to do with it and see
    27:49
    Okay. That wasn't an earthquake, kids. Those were actual balls rattling. Yep. Those are big metal cojones. So, guess what we're going to see on the LCD? Concert footage. Oh, thanks. Concert footage! That's awesome. Footage of the actual concerts? I dig that. Wow. Because... Have we had a music pin yet with an LCD? No. I guess Alice Cooper, but not really. Would people be upset if they didn't use the assets correctly? See, I can do that. I'm kind of digging this live streaming stuff. You're a ham, that's why. Yeah, the camera loves me, what can I say? I'm subtle too. What were we talking about? The concert footage. Yeah, the concert footage. Do you think, I mean, so once again they're going to have the assets it sounds like, so now they need to use them properly. Right. That's the key, right? I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. Because you pay for them, you get them, you know, it's still, you know, this whole thing about Wonka, the controversy, I'm using these again, you know, about Wonka. Oh, they have the assets, they're just not using them properly. And then some people said they weren't able to, you know, so, but because Slash is part of this, you have to just think they said, here's a bunch of footage, yeah, go nuts. Yeah. Well, I think that's with everything. Sure. That's with everything. If it's maintained, Of Stuff-Fantasy
    29:25
    And randomly certified Hnyt ister The sound system with the concert footage, don't you think that would give us more of an immersive experience? Far more than a burning castle in the background using LEDs? Yes, or like with Aerosmith and Stern, they did the animated concert stuff, you know, it's cartoony. So that's a little different take, and I give them a pass on that because that was the first LCD they ever did. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It is what it is. But yeah, no, I think immersive is the word, if they're using it correctly. I'm excited about it.
    30:45
    Hey, I brought you an all new向o cosplay guide program! This person I was talking to about this, they thought that they should sell them for $15,000, but I just don't think they're going to change their model that much.
    31:23
    You know, they're going to up the price a little bit, but maybe $13,000, $13,500. You know, it all depends on the, you know, how much the license is, as per usual. You know, just like the Beatles and other stuff. What do you got there? Oh, I'm just looking at Chad here. I know, I see you giggling over there. Brian Kastner, right, still feels slighted, been listening since day one and not a Tribe member. Brian Kastner, not a Tribe member, how is that possible? In real time I get to tell you why you're not a Tribe member. Ready for this?
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    That was a joke. I was gonna leave. I was gonna leave, Brian. I got you, brother. Brian, we love you here at the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Don't worry about it, brother. Everyone gets in eventually. We only have 32 listeners and 30 of them are in. Just don't tell Jeff from Flip. He thinks we're racking in 3,000 views. Yeah, you're 31, he's 32. Exactly. Hey, it makes you feel better? I'm not a tribe member either. Touche. I have yet to get a single vote. No, to be real honest, and I will get serious for a moment here, we have several people that we want in. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Knapp Arcade, Make it not special for the people. I mean, you know, Tim Lee, yeah, he can go, whatever. If you want Tim Lee's spot, that's fine. Yeah. We'll sell you Tim Lee's spot. Five bucks. Just donate $5 to the local charity. We'll pay you. But no, like I said, all jokes aside, we... Yeah. And we talked to some people in the tribe, and they said the same thing. We didn't want to just keep every week. For a while, we were doing two, and we were like, okay... Oh, we wanted to get the number up a little bit. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Peace andetas!
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    All right. So, no, that's not the rumor. Here's the rumor, kids. Ready? Here we go. Sorry. We need one more button on there. It's just called train wreck. Train wreck. And we can just push it and the train comes through. All right, train wreck. All right, here we go. Cactus Canyon. We're looking at an October slash November release. So we're looking for a late year. We kind of think that. I think everyone's kind of caught up from COVID. Oh, and by the way, the last thing about Guns and Roses, yeah, we're looking at September, possibly October. Yeah, I think these are going to come out relatively quick to each other. I think they're going to race them out. Next month, we're going to see some stuff.
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    We are going to see some stuff next month. That sounds like a poor man fact. Fact exclusive! I don't know what that means. Nope. Alright, so, but it's going to be a complete game. New code, kids. That is exciting. Finished. New, shiny code with bells and whistles and all sorts of fun, good stuff for you guys to nibble on. And, you know, this you can be very confident in because we've seen Attack from Mars. We saw Monster Bash and everyone knows how great those games were and what they added to them, especially like the special editions and the limited editions. I have not yet played Cactus Canyon, but you have. I have. I have. What did you think of the layout? It's fun. Nobody talks about the layout. Yeah, correct. They always talk about, oh, the finished code. Correct. Ooh. Here's the thing. This is pinball guy. Ooh. Here's the thing. If it weren't... Sorry. Go ahead. Pinball guy. Whatever. Pinball guy. If it weren't for the theme, because, you know, it's a cowboy theme. It was a 90s game. Yee-haw! And it's not a terrible theme. I mean, it's just, you know, it's cowboys. Who doesn't like cowboys? Yeah, exactly. Besides Europe. So, no, the layout's fun. There's toys. You know, you got the cool cowboy head in there. You got the stand-up targets. Don't forget the train. Yep, the train. Train's cool. You know, you have a couple of those modes where the bad guys are on like targets and they just pop up out of the playfield. Yep. You know, so there's a lot of cool stuff going on in that game. The layout's fun. And, you know, I think it's a little underrated just because of, like I said, the theme. I mean, if you if you would have made that like, you know, space theme or something, I don't know. But I'm just saying, like, it's a it's a cool game. So I think for anyone who played pinball in the 90s and especially going up against stuff from today. Jason
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    www.willywonka.com The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I have the cheese slice. All right. So now the just a bunch of sausages. All right. Anyway, so now it's like I get a craving every once in a while. I'm like, oh, shit. It's an itchy need to scratch every once in a while. And that's a Western for me. Thanksgiving Prepare for www.willywonka.com John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Lyman F. Sheats Jr., orbit ramps, Automated Amusements, Python Anghelo, Joe Kaminkow, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. John Wayne and the kids have to flee. I regret asking this question. Here's where it gets good. The whole second half of the movie, the kids break into the gun chest and just start going off and like on a murderous rampage. That is pretty cool actually. And when I was a little kid, I was like, yes, do it, let's do it. This is called Cowboys? It's called Cowboys with John Wayne. It's like some late 60s, early 70s. Okay. Trash movie, but I love it anyway. Well, that solves that.
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    Yeah, sorry. Wait, what happened? What was the question? No, I mean, cowboy stuff is cool. I mean, I get into it, but it's... It's not on top of your list, though, for the games. Right. Even Creature from the Black Lagoon, which I love, I could not watch that movie every month. It's, you space it apart, man. Zombie movies, I could probably... Yeah, that's... Certain ones I could watch all the time. Oh, really? Yeah. Because for me, that's like every movie, even like, you know, Star Wars or stuff. Kate Walsh Ministries 13 Good Phenomenal OC Ian's Movie Review. You know, I'm curious as to CGC's, like, demographic. You know, like, who buys a majority of the games? Is it, you know, nostalgia people?
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    You know, is it, you know, newer pinball collectors? You know what I mean? I think it's a little bit of everybody. Well, no, I understand that, but I'm saying what's the bulk? Well, you know what? Where is the bulk? There's definitely a reason why they're going towards original CGC games. Not necessarily original themes, but original them creating new content. Why do you think that is? Well, because I think they're trying to reach a larger audience. To your point, I don't think that Cactus Canyon gets everyone excited, but if they release Goonies, I think everyone will get excited. Sure. You know what I'm saying? And the same with Monster Bash for the hardcore pinball people. Join theEdge Podcast with Mike Stearns, Don't Meet me at task.com, Every male is required to make a payment for his pensions my business deals with your commissions and your regiment's Find out the games you really like. Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness, Twilight Zone, Adam's Family, fucking Monster Bash. Yeah, when you look at the price tag, Indiana Jones, Pinball Adventure, when you look at the price tag, they almost instantly price you out of the market. So what CGC is doing is reintroducing games that are a few thousand dollars less that now we can all enjoy. Now it sucks to be that collector that had all those nice high games Sure because those prices have suffered I do feel for you and your pocketbook but chances are you didn pay ten grand either for the fucking game No that the thing Almost all those guys probably literally paid less than half that Absolutely. Every time I hear one of those stories, the guy's like, yeah, I paid like two grand for this thing and I had it fixed up. I spent a couple grand on it and... Yeah. You know, then yeah, you could have sold it for ten a few years ago, but yeah. Sorry, guys. Yep. Tis what it is. Womp womp. Oh, we need a womp womp button. Womp womp. That's what we need. All right. So yeah, so that's our facts, rumor facts, fact rumors, whatever. Sure, sure. We're still coming up with names to figure it out. And when I say that- We don't come up with anything. We'll probably never do this segment ever again. Nope, we don't get many rumors. Nope, nope. But thank you to the person- The donation. Man or woman that donated the rumors. N cykova, Bassette pc,
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    on track wayside I, you know, I've, I've, I've talked to Kerry Hardy here. Uh, love his accent. Talked to Kerry Hardy, um, a bit, uh, messaged him a few times, uh, watched a lot of his videos late at night when I'm, I'm next to my wife watching you in bed, Kerry. Um, Kerry, talk to me. Uh, no, the podcast.
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    Are we done with that part? That segment's never coming back. Ian doing a Texas accent. That was horrible. That was worse than me. Remember? Oh, well, we'll just, we shoot the cows. We just take our guns and we're in Texas. Bang, bang, bang. You know, I'm racist and generalizing and whatever. So, um. I don't know what the fuck we're talking about. You asked me about Kerry Hardy. I'm talking about Kerry Hardy. You know, you're fucking around. Quit fucking around. So this is a serious podcast. Yep, you're right. Stream. You're right.
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    Um, uh, no, I, it's fine. They're, they're short. So I, I do like that because even though we tend to ramble sometimes. I really appreciate the shorter podcasts and that's only because I listen to so many of them. Right. And I do drive around all day, almost every day, so that's not the end of the world. But no, I think they're good little tidbits. Like I said, I like his takes on stuff. I think he's... I'll say he's fair on most things. He's great at restoring games and he has a lot of knowledge. So no, it's cool. I just, I like his videos better, I guess, at the end of the day. Kerry, if you're listening, we love you, buddy. Yeah, absolutely. One thing I did notice though, Kerry, on your rant about, um, you know, not liking personal pinball news. I just want to let you know that your whole YouTube channel is personal pinball news.
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    Just wanted to throw that out there, partner. Where's the irony button? Irony! Womp womp! Sorry, guys. All right, so, wanted to just crack that egg of truth on you, All right, so Cactus Canyon is done. All right, you want to do a top five? Let's do a top five. Top five. Hang on, hang on. We're now getting text messages from people. Oh yeah, what do they want to know? Eh, check the messenger. That's what they want us to know. They just want to fuck with us? Oh no, people want us to talk to them. You know what? Thank you biết het? How you doing brother? He is our rumor source. I thought we weren't supposed to tell you your name but now you're on our chat saying it. Chris! Give us credit! Give us credit! Chris! I was keeping our... I respect you enough. You asked me not to tell anybody. You're an asshole, Chris. I love you, brother. Joseph Hood. That doesn't represent a western. It's a goofy cowboy theme. Well, you know what, buddy? What are you talking about? His name's like Bart or something. Black Bart! Yeah, I think it's Bart or something. I don't know. Macho Pinball. Anyone know the best way to get blood out of boxer briefs? Asking for a friend. Macho, where the hell have you been, brother? Yeah, you've kind of disappeared. Your last podcast was with me. May, brother? Yeah. Hey, message us whenever you're next, all right? You want to come on our podcast? Can you pull out that impression for an entire podcast? I'd like to hear it. Yeah, can you do that more than three and a half minutes? All right. Let's see here. Pal Rider or Die? Jasper Otter. Writer's good, man. I like that one, Clint Eastwood was pretty badass in that one. That was kind of a mystery one where you weren't so sure if he was back from the dead or not, but he had all those bullet hole scars in him, but it's good. That's good Western. All right, let's see. Anything else? OK, they're talking about how to get blood out of boxer briefs. Rango was the best Western and American tale. All right, Glenn. Skateboarder Glenn. Thank you. That was an interesting movie. Chris Franchi, check your messenger. Is he the one yelling at you? No, he wasn't the one. Well, yeah, Mike Williams told me. It's Red Dawn of cowboy movies. Red Dawn. Red Dawn is, now that's a movie I can watch all day, every day. You guys are getting off topic. We always stay on topic here at the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Zombies. Why isn't there a Resident Evil machine? Because Resident Evil isn't even a zombie game. Ryan Cardigan, When you listen to countless hours of people and then you see them and they Don't look the way you thought. Oh, I'm gonna take that as a compliment, man. Thank you. Thank you. You didn't expect all the muscles. I know. Good looking man. All right. So, Chris Kooleris, Kooleris, Kaneda. Fun fact, CGC made five Monster Bashers with Slash from Guns N' Roses on the Translate, and Slash got a game. Yep. Drew, you doink. Do what Mr. Oh, God. Everyone's yelling at you. What happened to Messenger? stu
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    De seguida, sigaramos la pista de una winca. Kanyeda can't come back without jeopardizing his career. Yeah, that's true. Kanyeda, we love you, brother. Chris, you are our source, and we appreciate the info. Chris Franchi, just for the record, I'm going to message you my phone number so you can yell at me in real time. All right, enough. Yes. Three people text me, will you please respond to Franchi because he's yelling at us? Franchi, what do you need? What is it that you want? We're here, Franchi. This is exactly what we were trying to avoid, Franchi. We are right here, yes. We just wanted to do our podcast and then come back to you guys and see how things are going. I'm not making excuses for us, but I want to remind you guys, we've done like 60 plus episodes. We record, we drink, we have fun. We can screw up as much as we want. This is really brand new for us. You know, here's the problem. We'll get better at it. All right, let's just do our top five because this is all related. Yeah, this is kind of funny how that worked out. Drew, what's our top five? Our top five today is why doing podcasts is way easier than doing live streaming. And I think we know what number one is now, but spoiler alert. Ian, check your MySpace message. It's been unchecked for some years. Thank you, Brian. I will look into that. I actually check it every day. So this is the top five reasons that podcasts... I sent some art you requested. Did you get some art from Franchi? Is it some metal balls? Franchi? Oh, oh. I'm not yelling into the mic, guys. I'm getting excited. Sorry. Yeah, we are. We are. Let's see. I'm getting so excited. All right. So what are we doing? Okay. So we are doing – you know what? I bet you he did send something and we're just – Here we go. Thank you, guys. I'm looking at it. Top five reasons why doing this live shit is harder than podcasting? Nope. Hang on. We're looking at Franchi stuff. Oh, my God. That's awesome.
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    Yeah. Go walk in front of the camera. Okay, so, Franchi, thank you so much. I'm sorry, buddy. Like I said, we're getting, we're new at this. This is, uh, pull it back a little bit. Uh oh. So Franchi made us a mock-up of his new Beatles game. Nope. No good. Pull it back. There you go. Hang on. Right there. So that's super badass. So that that is Franchi's attempt at the Skeleton Beatles. I love this in real time. See Franchi, this is what we're learning that we can do this shit in real time. We need what we need is we need more screens, we need to set up we need our messenger set up because right now we just have it you know, on the, you know, our live feed. So anyways, okay. So thank you so much, Franchi. You Alright, so for those of you that are listening, we We, Franchi sent Drew some artwork of a skeleton beetle, so it happened. It was one of the beetles from his game, but with a skeleton head on it. With a skeleton head. Super cool. Awesome. All right. Very cool, Franchi. Thank you, sir. So top five reasons that podcasting is easier and or better than streaming. So what do you got for number five? All right, number five. I don't know shit about fuck. This streaming thing is relatively new to Drew and I. Well, it's new to Drew and I. It's brand new. I mean, we tried to pay attention when Kuiper was showing us TurboGrafx-7, and I read Jack Danger's whole page on how to stream, blah, blah, blah. But the thing is, we just wanted to do a goddamn talk show. And when we started this podcast, we bought equipment that will barely handle podcasting. Yes, we had computer issues. We spent the bare minimum on everything because we didn't know if we were going to do 60 episodes. We've got three episodes, or three episodes. We weren't sure how the podcast was going to go. Because most of the time, Drew has an idea, Ian just... Ian and my wife both say the same thing. They're like, you're going to forget about it. So I've got to fucking rock and roll and make sure that this shit will work on a stream. And it does. So far, so good today. Yep. All the podcasters are here, Macho. Everyone's in chat. All right. Beautiful. Josh is here. Hey, what up? Loser kid himself. Josh. We've got Loser Kid, we've got Kaneda, we've got Macho. Zach, where are you at? Chris, Stern for Franchi, I'm trying to be interactive. Brother, we love you. You know we do. You know who's the last podcaster that's going to show up in there? As in never going to show up in there? Dennis Kriesel. I already know what you're thinking. Oh, man. All right, what's your number five, dude? My number five, this is why I like podcasting better. Everyone can see where my hands are.
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    No explanation there needed. Nope, nope, that's it. We're good. We're just going to move on from that one, kids. All right, so my number four, you always want more equipment, you know, you know, learn to look at the camera. That's all like part of one number four for me. It was you always want more kit. We want a whole streaming rig just so we can make drinks and you guys can watch us make drinks. That's that's that's in my mind. We got this shit costs money. You always want more shit. That's all it is. Yeah. I can't buy more games because I'm buying more shit for this damn The
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    NINETIZING NINE We need a screen to have the messenger up, our Facebook messenger, all these different things. Yeah, that's all GPU heavily intensive. Yeah, yeah. All right, buy me a new computer. We can do it. We're on it. All right. I just wanted to snap. Silverballswag.com. If you guys buy like 100 t-shirts, we can probably make that happen.
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    Silverballswag.com. Yeah. Buy our shit. Yeah. The five people in chat today, just buy 20 t-shirts each. No big deal.
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    All right. We have 18 guys in chat. 330 comments. You guys are killing it. You guys are commenting away. Number 3. Fucking macho. I love you macho. When Drew doesn't have show notes done, it really shows.
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    Yeah, there is no fucking lying about that. You can tell when we are prepared, which you haven't seen yet in person. www.willywonka.com However, doing this live, now, if we get too drunk and we say some really ridiculous shit, chances are we're going to get canceled hard. Because believe it or not, like, you know, like today is obviously fine. We haven't even had a drink yet. But there have been a few nights. Okay, maybe Ian said too. There have been a few nights we did have to edit stuff out because it just got...
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    We just said we... I slur. Yeah. I slur. Well, I say shit that shouldn't be said. We really shouldn't have said that or whatever, but... John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Larry Kizrow, Kevin Kitzrow,
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    We're live. We gotta do it. People are waiting. Poor Tim Lee is sitting there not paying attention to his kids because he wants to watch us. So that's for you Tim. All right, number one. You know what? It's the same as number two. Live drinking and not getting canceled. That's like still a fear. Hey, not getting canceled and cancer culture is amazing. It's hard. You're right. It's a tight rope. It's a tightrope. I like that analogy. Well, if we get kicked off of Facebook, we can always go to Twitch. They kick us off there, we'll go to YouTube. They kick us off there, is Mixer still around? I don't even know. I don't know. You're saying words. My number one reason that I like podcasting better than live streaming, I do not have a body like Kaneda.
    59:42
    Check me out, guys. I'm doing push-ups. Yep, those are my push-ups. Drew, we need to get you a park and some bicycle racks stat so you can go out and work out. Sweet. Yeah, that's it. That's all we need, baby. We actually joked about making a montage video like that. Yeah, that actually we were so lazy. We didn't even want to do that. No, we're like, I gotta do like ten push-ups. We didn't want to joke around with that. Nope, nope, nope.
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    Chris, I love you, man. Hey, appreciate you, man. You work out, you take care of your body. Kari Hardy, you guys have the faces for podcasting. Kari, have you been here the whole time? Were you here when we were making your podcast? Yeah. Did you miss that, Kari? Oh, no. It's good, man. It hurts, doesn't it, Kari? Flip N Out Pinball. You want a new Stern? Boom, we have you covered. You want a new Chicago Gaming Company remake? Boom, we have you covered. You want a brand new Shiny from JJP? Guess what? Boom, we have you covered again. P3 Multimorphic? We can do that, too. Got a brand new shiny from JJP? Guess what? Boom, we have you covered again. P3 Multimorphic? We can do that too. We got mods, shaker motors, even some used pinball inventory. Flippin' Out Pinball also sells the stair climbing Escalera hand truck. Email Zach at Flippin' Out Pinball or call or text 812-457-9711. Zach at Flippin' Out Pinball. Letter N Out Pinball.
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    All right, and we're back guys Welcome back. All right, so Drew Yes, I filled up my cocktail. How are we doing? That was our first official cocktail break. We've done them on the podcast. It didn't seem as official. That was kind of cool. I dig it. Ooh, is that strong? It was all booze. I forgot I didn't have a mixer in there. What you drinking? Ran out of Coke, gasoline. So we're going to go with a little ginger ale in here. Ooh, god damn.
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    I'm going to feel that tomorrow. All right. So, um, so we did our Flip N Out thing. We did our cocktail break. Yep. What's next?
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    Mail talk call. Mail call? Mail call. Mailbag? Mailbag. Jesus. That would get edited out on the podcast.
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    Mailbag. All right, here we go. Drew, did you have our mail up? I did. Yeah, I got it. Ted Finlay. Ted. Mr. Doc. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I just listened to the streamed episode turned into a podcast. Cool. Facts. Thanks, Jeff. And except for Drew's super drunk episode, you may have reached a new sloppiness. Hi, Mark. Thank you. I didn't mind some of the slight technical glitches or the can you see us now comments and things like that, but listening to the podcast, there were several large black holes of dead air. Yeah, that's... Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi, Tim Kitzrow, Stephen Kitzrow, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi, Tim Kitzrow,
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    I will say, you know, that was our unofficial trial run. You know, tonight's obviously our trial run, and it obviously went better. I'm liking this Facebook thing. I do, too. And I appreciate all you guys coming out. Yeah. I think this is our format, and we will have more structure going forward. And I know people are saying maybe they don't want that, and that's fine. You know, we'll do some unstructured stuff, of course. But we just wanted to see if we could... Unstructured stuff. Facts. Thanks for the feedback, Jeff. Yeah, his last little bit on his email. My son challenged me to a game of getaway on my birthday. He's 19 and has never done that before. It was awesome, especially when I whooped his ass. Jeff, good job, man. Jeff, do you want to buy a Starz or a Firepower as you already have? Sorry. All right. We'll go into Ken Elguire. Ken hey guys cut the latest sorry Oh here it is Got the pin shades This is Ken who uh who won our pin shade contest Oh, yeah, for sure. That was like two months ago. Hey, guys. Got the pin shades. Thanks again. They're very rad and they surprisingly do work. Why is everyone so surprised? Oh, gasp. No, they're awesome. Jackson's not selling you fucking sunglasses, guys. They're actually work. I like them. I dig them. You guys mentioned a week or so ago about console gaming. The First Collection is all console based as I'm still relatively new to pinball. Year and a half. Hey, we'll join the boat, buddy. Console collection. Oh, dude, he names way too many. He is. He has them all. Bonus points. I've released games on at least five of the consoles I own. 12 ship games, direct credit, multiple consultations on other games. No shit. Way to go. Yeah, he's got a he's got a picture here of all his consoles and stuff. Oh, yeah. And that wild. That's a lot of wires, my man. Yep. Ouais! And the win if not won, so before anything a wally combine i don't buyer Hey Hey hey little my name's problem you bellies have a long time talk to people i never love and i've tried another error he heard he rejected uh... he'll have to stand for change that doesn't yeah The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. jemes plates sendo 38 tent었 a minista es mexican co вся definitely gifte ac Multif搭 Sonido lineo ac Straight Down the Middle Knapp Arcade,dsgve mi Dramatington corporation digital desires I'm going to play the show again. You could literally send him a box with a turtle outfit on, and Drew would be like, dude, did you check out my new turtles? My turtles are awesome.
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    Zach really hooked me up. Appreciate it. Flip N Out Pinball. Thanks. Zach Meny. Wednesday, his distro blows. Yeah, Zach. We don't like to say it too loud, but we all know he does. We've seen what Zach Meny blows.
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    It's that huge sponsorship deal we have, Zach. So, you know, I got to be nice to my sponsors. We have so many people watching us now and listening to us. Brian Kosner, let's see videos of poor men doing shirtless push-ups in the park. Well, guess what, Brian? That's on the way. I can't complain doing that, but I don't want to embarrass my wife anymore. I do that enough. Charles Thomas, I just played Turtles LE at Sunshine. Dude, how was the LE? Have you played the Pro? Could you give us some comparables here, pal? See how you like Turtles.
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    Mike Williams, ew, no please, just no. Okay, yep, gotcha. Zach Meny, that should have been there today. God damn it, Zach. Zach, they called me this morning. What do you mean it should have been there today? They called me to set it up. I think they have it. I could have probably got it today if I wanted it. Rodden. Hey, Rodden, what up, buddy?
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    Can we have hearts on fire playing in the background like a montage? Oh, wait, hang on. Hang on, Zach. We'll edit this. Okay, ready? Oh, I got my turtles today. It's so freaking awesome. It's only cool because you got it from? It's flipping out pinball. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. All right, so anyway, Glenn's trying to get a free pair of waiting for Orby to get him his pin shades, but you know what, Glenn, I'm sorry, brother, I don't know what it is, but I'm still waiting for my baseball card. I have an extra pair of pin shades. We'll start the bidding at, I don't know, the machine, what, $5,800? Oh, Jesus Christ. That sound good? Hey, Zach, what kind of trade-in have you got for pin shades? Pinshades and like a hundred bucks. What can I get?
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    He had a freaking damn near mint fucking Iron Maiden. I saw that thing. I said I would never own Iron Maiden again. I was like, I almost started messaging him like, oh, that thing was pretty. Did you see what he wanted for trade bait? It was like he even named it Black Rose. Yeah, I know. I saw that and I was like, oh, oh, that was so pretty. I know. I know. What does he Images –
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    What kind of segment would you like to see for the Pinball, the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast? Brand new segment. Brand new. Come up with a brand new segment. So put on your thinking caps on and we'll get back to that. Yes. So while we're doing that, I do want, I hate to keep stroking this guy's ego. Zach, you're, yeah, whatever. I'll do it anyways. So the other day. It's not like Zach likes it. Yeah. So the other day people were posting their pictures about the Turtles banners, the pinball banners. And I saw it and I was like, and it looks really cool. It said Zombie Yeti art. Yeah. Right. And I'm like, hmm. And then I think it was Daniel Donnell, one of our members. I believe so. And he's like, oh, I got this banner. And then I got the stand on Amazon. It was like 20 bucks. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. I'm like, I don't need that. And then like five minutes went by and I'm like, I fucking need that. So I messaged Zach and I'm like, do you have any banners? And he's like, yeah, I got banners. I bought a banner from him. He's shipping that out soon, too. Okay. Yeah. The only other one I really wanted was Metallica when I had it, but I was like, yeah, I'm getting this one. I don't know what I'm going to do with it yet, but it's badass. You're getting the Turtles banner. Cool, man. Yep. Paid for. Yeah, it is. Because, you know, I love pinball. Everyone knows it. You know, you put it on the ceiling, put it somewhere. I don't know, but yeah. Your wife's going to be like, great, now you have a blankie for your guy. Oh, I know. That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm like, she's going to see it. She's going to be like, what the fuck are you doing? Oh, I'm glad you're getting back to Turtle Banners. You're such a big boy, Drew.
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    That's his wife. I love it. Don't worry. Oh, it's awesome. So thanks again, Flip N Out Pinball, for the banner. Zach, of course, man. Yeah, it's super awesome. All right, let's hear some of these. We've got a few good ones here. All right, so these are going to be possibly what is the best brand new segment coming from you guys. Here we go. Mike Williams, favorite locations to play and why? Okay, that's pretty decent. That's good. We don't have a ton of locations here that are open right now. Oh, sadly. And it would be so local, Mike. I don't know if that would work.
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    Glenn Wachter. Pickup lines. Hang on. I do want to get serious for one second about that. Yes, sir. Because it is close to my heart. Anyone in the Milwaukee area, please go to the arcade. Play games. He is open. He's social distancing. He has mass nights. He has, you know, everything kind of set up. Go support him. So, dear person, friend. Well, I love the guy. Okay. It's a great place. We need to go out there. We got to put our money where our mouth is, but you know, buy a gift card. Um, I said, you can go there, you can be safe. You can still play games. So, so please do. Yeah. So there you go. All right. We'll shout out. Go ahead. Nope. Uh, so Glenn said pickup lines.
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    Ooh, that's good for a segment. Kind of like our dad jokes, but pickup lines. You want to see my magnetized balls?
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    We'll be right back. www. PaulaIsntIt Аndsels, P.D. I You're my number two, you know that. Ari Jones, ah, fuck, marry, kill, pinball edition. Slapsave did one like that. Yeah, they did, and you know what? I liked that one. I really liked that one. That one, write that down. We might have to steal that. Ooh, Ari, you might be in the lead, brother. Yeah, that one is good because it's just so cool. The, what was it, torch it, bolt it, whatever. We'll call it sign outs. We don't want to steal everything. Well, it's too late. That shit's public, bro. Yeah, it is. And it is a cool segment. I've always loved that one. They're dear personal friends. It's all good. No, always love that. All right, what else we got here? How much are turtles banner? Oh, that's lame game, Charles Thomas. Lame game. Charles Thomas just emailed Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. I think he had some more banners, so he can hook you up. Segment idea, what's the worst pinball podcast segment? This one? No, no, no. Wait, wait. I want to change my answer. I'm going to call this Dead Air. Whichever one we're doing at the time. Yeah, whatever the fuck we're talking about, this is happening. But, no, Brian, we love it.
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    It's a little personal, though. I mean, we don't need Kerry Hardy showing up on chat all of a sudden and saying, oh, I hear you guys are talking about me. Daniel Donald, hey, buttholes, we just talked about you, Daniel. Hey, Daniel. Daniel, was that you that had the TMNT banner and the Amazon stand? I just want to make sure I remember it correctly. So, let me know. Thanks. Bill Wajay, it is coming up, Bill Wajay, so you're okay, brother.
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    Fox City Pinball Stream, what the fuck is going on, guys? Fox City Pinball! Hey, our buddy Eric Thorne up in the Fox Cities and had us on his stream like a month or so ago. Awesome, great to hear from you, man. Glad you're here. Should we pay Kaneda to get more episodes? Nah, we're okay, Daniel. All right, what else we got? Anything else, guys? Anything else? The next segment should be interactions with people at expos. Hopefully we have them again, but the best. That's a great idea, but that could be a long way away. Yeah, Glenn talked about that too, reaching out to normal people and seeing what they think about pinball. Oh, tell the quick story about Glenn on our messenger. I'll tell the story, sure. So we're doing our Zoom meeting. No, because every time I do it, you're like, oh, I fucking instantly regret this. Hot dogs. So, no, no, we were doing our little Zoom meeting. I do regret this. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, going on. And we're having a good time. The tribe members are partying. And all of a sudden, we get a late arrival, and it's Glenn. And he's in some supermarket grocery store. He's got a mask on. Buying some booze. He's in the liquor store, yeah. Yeah, buying some booze. And he goes up to some random dude, and he goes, hey, man, do you like pinball? Guy's like, what? Huh? I used to be okay at it. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. If it wasn't for these two great producers, and I would cosmetics you fire, and Marcus Seagal in your favorite historical joint for decades. namespace and sites if you request a partial share ofaring, I'm stealing all these ideas. Dennis is going to be stoked.
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    Still need to listen to that. All right. Dennis will love it. Karaoke corner. Ooh, Glenn. Karaoke. I like that.
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    Nope, that is me. Glenn's segment was fantastic. That should be it. All right. Can we give it? Can you go live to Glenn? Oh, man. Yeah, you could do an NDI camera, I believe. All right. Market Trends. Daniel Tottle, Market Trends. I'll write that down. Market Trends. So Zach's here. Zach, if you're stealing our ideas, we're going to steal your ideas. I don't think he's ever stole anything from us. Do-do-do-do-do! Market Trends.
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    Bye-bye-bye. That's all I do from Zach. I'm thinking Harry Jones, man. What the fuck? Marry, kill. I know it's a stolen thing, though. And then Glenn said it later, though, so Glenn loses out. Well, Glenn helped with the name. Yeah, he did, because that was the name that they used.
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    So who should win this? The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. The Wally Williams Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
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    The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. The Wally Winka Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
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    Thank you, Zach, for flipping out pinball. Thank you so much. This went way better than I thought it was going to. It was awesome. We really appreciate it.
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    Again, thank you very much. We might stick with the Facebook thing because I kind of like the Facebook thing. I dig it. It's easy. What do you guys think about Facebook? Send us a message at poormanspinball.gmail.com. Let us know if you want to do Twitch or Facebook. We're leaning towards Facebook. We will do some Twitch stuff. We'll try Twitch again next week. Yeah, we've talked about some different ideas, but I think Facebook's cool. We'll see.
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    The Winning Pinball Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, We'll be right back. We have some original Ian art that says Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Just words. My favorite shirt. Fuck you. It's called the OG shirt. All right, guys. Thank you very much for listening. Thank you for watching. Thanks for the facts. Thank you for all the facts. Thank you, Chris, over there, Mr. Kaneda, for being our little spy. We love everyone. Yeah, we love you guys. It was a good time. Zach, thank you again for giving out a Turtle Translite. Way cool. Thanks, everybody. Have a fantastic night. See you guys later.
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    I wonder what's inside your book, oh oh oh. Maybe there's a shoebox in your building and all inside your book, oh oh. What's inside your buckle? I always wanna know. I wonder what's inside your buckle. End of Nick and Anson Me
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