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Episode 1070: "Whistle While We Wait"

Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)·podcast_episode·23m 15s·analyzed·Mar 29, 2025
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TL;DR

Waiting period analysis: Labyrinth sales, upcoming reveals, pricing psychology, and generational pinball sustainability.

Summary

Kaneda discusses the current lull in pinball releases while awaiting major titles including Harry Potter, King Kong, and Predator. He analyzes Barrels of Fun's Labyrinth performance, speculates on May 1st reveal timing, critiques industry pricing strategies, and reflects on pinball's demographic future and his personal creative motivations in the hobby.

Key Claims

  • Barrels of Fun manufactured approximately 1,000 Labyrinth games and has 113 still available through distributors

    high confidence · Kaneda citing Barrels of Fun's own announcements about inventory

  • May 1st is the planned date for Barrels of Fun to reveal their next game, with a raffle winner announcement on that date

    medium confidence · Kaneda's inference based on raffle timing and communication with David Van Ness about content creation timeline

  • 90% of pinball games released over $10,000 in the last four years have depreciated to $10,000 or less

    medium confidence · Kaneda's market observation and analysis of secondary market pricing

  • Jersey Jack plans a global simultaneous launch of Harry Potter with ~100 CEs shipped first, then unlimited CE orders within a timeframe window

    medium confidence · Kaneda citing information he heard about JJP's distribution strategy

  • Stern will likely charge approximately $1,000 for a new Spike 3 monitor and speaker upgrade for Spike 2 owners

    low confidence · Kaneda speculation based on Stern's historical pricing patterns

  • Pinball Brothers has never designed a great game independently; Alien was designed by Andrew Highway 12-13 years ago

    high confidence · Kaneda's factual assessment based on company history

  • Harry Potter will be the second-biggest theme in pinball history after Star Wars

    medium confidence · Kaneda's opinion on IP cultural significance and pinball market impact

  • Boutique manufacturers will survive long-term while major manufacturers will not due to limited addressable market

    low confidence · Kaneda's prediction on pinball industry consolidation and generational trends

Notable Quotes

  • “These periods are sort of nice, right? You sort of give your wallet a little bit of a break and you just sort of hang out with each other. That's what I love about this hobby is in these times between releases, it's fun to get together and speculate and dream what is around the corner.”

    Kaneda@ 0:53 — Establishes the podcast's philosophy on community engagement during content droughts

  • “If they announced that they were only making 800 then it would have sold out and we would have been saying home run, right? But because they said they were going to make 1100 and they came in under that, there is this is a little bit of like you didn't reach your goal.”

    Kaneda@ 5:21 — Critical analysis of Labyrinth's commercial performance relative to expectations

  • “The level of secrecy that this company has is incredible. We're all gonna know what the Steve Ritchie game is a year before it comes out.”

    Kaneda@ 6:37 — Contrasts Barrels of Fun's secrecy strategy with industry standard leak patterns

  • “And knowing Stern, they will probably charge a thousand dollars for a new monitor and new speakers for your game.”

    Kaneda@ 2:05 — Commentary on Stern's historical upgrade pricing strategy expectations

  • “There's something about just because we can do it doesn't mean we should.”

    Kaneda@ 8:57 — Philosophical critique of unlimited CE production strategy and FOMO dynamics

  • “90% of games that have come out in the last four years that have been over $10,000, 90% of them have slid down and lost value where you can now go get them today for 10,000 or less.”

    Kaneda@ 14:51 — Market data on pricing psychology and secondary market depreciation patterns

  • “This is the only thing in my life where I truly have creative freedom. I don't have to put up with any politics or bureaucracy.”

Entities

KanedapersonDavid Van NesspersonBrian SavagepersonBarrels of FuncompanyJersey Jack PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyPinball Brotherscompany

Signals

  • ?

    product_launch: Barrels of Fun planning May 1st reveal for next game; inference based on raffle winner announcement timing and content creation coordination requiring 2-week lead time; rules out early April release

    medium · Kaneda: 'I did hear from David Van Es that they are still planning to have me there to see the new game... David's going to want to give people at least two weeks notice... I think it's going to be end of April. I think May 1st is looking like the date'

  • $

    market_signal: Psychological pricing threshold at $10,000; 90% of games over this threshold have depreciated below it; creates purchase hesitation and secondary market risk perception

    high · Kaneda: '90% of games that have come out in the last four years that have been over $10,000, 90% of them have slid down and lost value... There's something psychological about spending more than $10,000'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack implementing unlimited CE orders within timeframe window strategy for Harry Potter; shifts from scarcity-based to volume-based collector strategy; impacts secondary market FOMO and value retention

    medium · Kaneda: 'they're going to make unlimited C.E.s during a window of time... they'll take unlimited orders within a timeframe... they're going to make... the ceo of the 10 Out prices pre ordered'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack planning synchronized worldwide launch of Harry Potter CEs to control reveal timing and distribution equity across regions; manufacturing and logistics coordination strategy

    medium · Kaneda: 'global launch of this game... Jersey Jack is going to make collector's editions first... they're going to mail them all over the world... one day. That is what the plan is.'

Topics

Barrels of Fun inventory and Labyrinth commercial performanceprimaryUpcoming major game releases (Harry Potter, King Kong, Predator timing and strategy)primaryPricing psychology and secondary market depreciation trendsprimaryJersey Jack's global launch strategy and unlimited CE production concernsprimaryPinball industry generational sustainability and boutique vs. major manufacturer futureprimaryPinball Brothers design capabilities and Predator expectationssecondarySpooky Pinball and Multimorphic continuous improvement trendssecondaryKaneda's podcast creative philosophy and community valuesecondary

Sentiment

mixed(0.55)— Kaneda is optimistic about upcoming games (Harry Potter, boutique future) but critical of industry practices (pricing, Pinball Brothers design, unlimited CEs). Balances skepticism with hope. Personal reflection segment is emotionally positive and introspective. Overall tone is measured analysis with constructive criticism.

Transcript

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0:00
Welcome everybody to Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. Happy Friday everybody. I don't know about you, but I'm just like exhausted lately. I've been working a lot. The weather is changing.
0:31
There's a lot mixing in the pinball world. We're all waiting to see these big titles, Harry Potter, King Kong, Predator, the new game from Barrels of Fun. Is it Dune? Is it Goonies? We're waiting to see what happens. These periods are sort of nice, right? You sort of give your wallet a little bit of a break and you just sort of hang out with each other. That's what I love about this hobby is in these times between releases, it's fun to get together and speculate and dream what is around the corner.
1:04
I know a lot of us, if we think about all the titles, the two major things are going to be Harry Potter and Spike 3 King Kong. Seeing what happens in both of those games is going to get really interesting. As always, thanks for tuning in.
1:47
But Stern might try to get all of us, not all of us because I don't have a Stern Spike 2 machine, but they're going to try to get everybody who's on Spike 2 and maybe even Spike 1 to upgrade. Maybe it's Spike 2 is LCD. They're going to want you to upgrade for the new monitor and they're going to sell it to you. And knowing Stern, they will probably charge a thousand dollars for a new monitor and new speakers for your game. We shall see. It's looking right now, as we look at April is next week, it's looking like the next game out might be Predator.
2:23

Kaneda@ 16:27 — Personal motivation statement about podcast creative autonomy and appeal

  • “I think that's what most of you get from pinball it's not the machines that are making you feel great it's the relationships with the people that love talking about and playing these machines that make you feel great.”

    Kaneda@ 17:49 — Core statement on community value and pinball's social function

  • “I just don't think like the big dogs will survive. I think the boutiques are the future because again, you're always going to be able to find a thousand customers over the next 10, 20 years in pinball.”

    Kaneda@ 20:53 — Long-term industry consolidation prediction based on addressable market constraints

  • “Life is really short. It really is. We never should get too upset about pinball or each other. It's all going to end. But while we're here, let's stay positive and be optimistic.”

    Kaneda@ 22:25 — Closing philosophical statement on community tone and priorities

    • Spooky Pinball
    company
    Multimorphiccompany
    Project Pinballorganization
    Harry Pottergame
    King Konggame
    Predatorgame
    Labyrinthgame
    Eric Minterperson
    Andrew Highwayperson
    Zach Sharpeperson
    Steve Ritchieperson
    Chrisperson
    Dunegame
    Gooniesgame
    ?

    product_concern: Unlimited CE production strategy creates uncertainty for collectors about value retention and exclusivity; UK collector Chris expressed concern about resale value after learning about unlimited order window

    high · Kaneda: 'he's wondering, do I even order this game on that window? Knowing they're going to make so many... dealers and distros are going to put in big orders... jjp will take those deposits even if it means they won't fulfill those orders for a few years'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Predator (Pinball Brothers, likely late April/May) expected to launch near or overlapping with Harry Potter announcement window; competition for collector pre-orders and attention

    medium · Kaneda: 'Predator... might be the next game out... It's looking right now, as we look at the Barrels of Fun countdown... I would assume... end of April. I think May 1st... the reveal of the next game'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Eric Minter confirmed as designer for Jersey Jack's Harry Potter game; expected to deliver quality gameplay alongside theme IP strength

    high · Kaneda: 'I also think Eric Minter is going to make a packed, really fun game. And I hope the clips are not muted'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Pinball Brothers' reputation heavily weighted by prior failures (Queen, ABBA); community skepticism about Predator due to team continuity without improvement; low confidence in turnaround

    high · Kaneda: 'People are basically saying Predator is going to be terrible because Queen and ABBA were lackluster and they haven't changed anyone on the team... if you are saying it's going to be bad, you're most likely going to be right'

  • ?

    business_signal: Long-term pinball market predicted to sustain only boutique manufacturers (Spooky, Multimorphic, Barrels of Fun) while major manufacturers (Stern, JJP) unlikely to survive; based on limited addressable market (~1,000 customers per year) and generational replacement decline

    medium · Kaneda: 'I just don't think like the big dogs will survive. I think the boutiques are the future... you're always going to be able to find a thousand customers over the next 10, 20 years in pinball'

  • ?

    content_signal: Kaneda committing to minimum 2x weekly content production; expects Saturday morning spectaculars; creative outlet and community engagement as core motivation; pinball content as differentiator from generational content trends

    high · Kaneda: 'every week you're at least gonna get two shows a week and you're hopefully gonna get the Saturday morning spectacular the creation never stops... this is what keeps me going'

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball community aging (Gen X, 1970s-1980s birth cohorts) with limited youth adoption; newer generations lack engagement with arcade gaming and IP-driven themes; cultural shift toward mobile/social media reduces potential for next-generation collector base

    medium · Kaneda: 'I think that's also why I think pinball is not gonna stick around for that much longer... there's not gonna be a next generation of kids that will pick up and buy these games... I don't think like the big dogs will survive'

    • Because if you look at the Barrels of Fun countdown and they're doing this raffle to register your Labyrinth game for a chance to win the next game, they're gonna announce the winner of that raffle on May 1st. So I would assume that's gonna happen right around the reveal of the next game. I also did hear yesterday, because I've been poking them, and sometimes I poke just to get a response. I did hear from David Van Es that they are still planning to have me there to see the new game and to make content to release for all of you to coincide with the launch of the game.
    3:01
    Now, we know that David's going to want to give people at least two weeks notice to get this date on the calendar. So now we know it's not going to happen in the first two weeks of April. And so I think it's going to be end of April. I think May 1st is looking like the date they're going to reveal the game to the world. And what do I think of this raffle, right? This whole marketing thing to sort of register your labyrinth for a chance to win a new game, the newest game from them.
    3:32
    First and foremost, if you own a labyrinth, no brainer, like absolutely register your game. I'm like, why wouldn't you? The odds of winning, you know, I don't know, they've made around a thousand labyrinth machines. I guess it is one in a thousand. The odds don't seem that great, but at least it's a nice gesture. It's a nice thing to do for people who have supported your company. There is also, I believe, a $10 donation to Project Pinball. And this whole thing is happening through the Project Pinball charity, and they're using the same sort of terms and conditions
    4:03
    and the same company to do this sort of giveaway or sweepstakes, if you will. I'm not going to open up that can of worms about where all the money goes sometimes for some of these charities, but still might as well register your game. Now they also are letting everybody know that there's still 113 labyrinth games still available through distributors. I think that means there are 113 games that will have been built that distributors have ordered that there are no homes for.
    4:34
    And I don't even think they're making all 1100. I think that's part of the 1,007 games they're going to build because they order parts in batches. So what does that mean? It does mean, and I know I said on my Facebook page, I did take it down. I don't know if this game's been a hit and some people argued with me about that. They said, Kaneda, this is a brand new company. They made a thousand games and shipped them to customers in a year. So on that level, absolutely this company has hit it out of the park.
    5:05
    How many inaugural pinball companies have achieved what Barrels of Fun has done in its first game in its first year and on that level it's absolutely a success. Is the title a hit? It is kind of. If they announced that they were only making 800 then it would have sold out and we would have been saying home run, right? But because they said they were going to make 1100 and they came in under that, there is This is a little bit of like you didn't reach your goal.
    5:36
    And when you don't reach your goal, it's hard to say it was a smashing success. I think they were a little bit overly ambitious I think they overestimated how many people wanted this theme And I know we are all together locked in arms that we want them to release a game in which they will have no problem getting 1100 orders and we know that that is not Dune it is Goonies or it is something else and I think that the state of affairs with this company I do now think it gonna be
    6:13
    I'm Brian Savage, co-founder of this company, and I look forward to seeing what you got. Brian, we look forward to seeing what you got. And it sounds like the team is really excited about the next game. I look forward to seeing it. I've been giving a lot of opinions, and I've seen nothing. We have to give this company credit. The level of secrecy that this company has is incredible. We're all gonna know what the Steve Ritchie game is a year before it comes out. We knew about Harry Potter a year before it came out.
    6:50
    We've known about King Kong forever. We knew about James Bond forever. We've known about Dungeons and Dragons. I think the game that nobody saw coming was John Wick. We all knew Venom was coming. And so it's nice. It is nice. They still have some secrets in the pinball world. Now, I still do think that knowing that Harry Potter is coming, I do think these guys need to get in front of it. I do because why would you want to wait? Right now there are zero dollars going towards Harry Potter. We can't order it. Nobody will take your money
    7:25
    nobody will take your deposit and Barrels of Fun won't take your money right now Even though they have a game right around the corner and the game is far enough along to show everybody So that's gonna be interesting if you drop predator on top of Harry Potter 하지하알하다 обыч quarter
    8:10
    King Kong a little bit. I would turn King Kong into a 12-5 game, not a 13-6 game. And the reason I would do that is I think Stern Pinball needs to win back a lot of people that just don't want to buy new in box anymore because they feel like they've been overcharged. And one Keith Elwin game that's worth it every year is not going to make up for the amount of games that people have lost money on. And I also just think that there should be only 500 LEs and they should be 12.5 and that's
    8:47
    it. Let the second hand market maintain its value. On the hot games, they'll go up in value and you should be okay with that. There's something about just because we can do it doesn't mean we should. I had an interesting conversation with a gentleman on my Patreon chat. I believe his name was Chris and he's over in the UK and he's been on a list for Harry Potter forever, like a year and a half, two years, right? He's been on the list. They're not going to get as many games as America and he's all excited to get his C.E.
    9:22
    Now the news has broken that they might make unlimited C.E.s during a window of time. I don't mean like unlimited they're going to make. I mean, they'll take unlimited orders within a timeframe. Now, Chris is all bummed out about that. And people are like, what are you mad about? Like they're going to make as many as people want. Why would you be upset? And I understand if you're somebody who's been waiting online forever. Imagine if you've been waiting online for two years to get something and there's better seats in the house.
    9:52
    And that's why you got online early and you want to get the better seats. And then all of a sudden they let everybody in at once and there's only one row of seats and everyone's got the same seat. And I know why Chris was upset. It's because he did. He's a collector. He wanted to get his hands on one and have one of only a thousand and he wanted to feel good that having that one, because he's been online for a year and a half, having that one game will hold its value in case he ever wants to get rid of it.
    10:23
    Now, like everybody else, he's wondering, do I even order this game on that window? Knowing they're going to make so many, knowing dealers and distros are going to put in big in the past your allocation was small well now they can just order as many as they want and jjp will take those deposits even if it means they won't fulfill those orders for a few years i mean that people like they're going to be making harry potter for years the same way they made guns and roses for years and instead of over making gnr le's i think what's going to happen is it's going to be the ceo of the
    11:03
    10 Out prices pre ordered ride Bretjo's 8 Out Tickets pre ordered product We be right back The only thing taken out are the aesthetic things They want to sell those to operators And what I heard they going to do is there going to be a global launch of this game
    11:42
    What that means is Jersey Jack is going to make collector's editions first. They're going to make, I don't know, a hundred of them. They're going to mail them all over the world. Wherever pinballs are sold, they will get the game all at the same time. And then they will reveal the game and do a global reveal, launch and ship of the product on one day. That is what the plan is. And after they make, I think, a hundred CEs, then they're going to make some standard edition games for operators.
    12:14
    Now, I think what Jersey Jack needs to do, they need to have two lines. You can't turn it on and off like this. Like you should never stop making CEs. Just keep them going out the door and make the second line the standard edition for operators. I don't think Jersey Jack has two lines anymore. I don't think they've had two lines for years. They had a small second line years ago. I don't even think they're doing that. You know, they used to do small batch runs of games like Hobbit and Dialed In, stuff like Wonka, but they haven't done that in a while.
    12:47
    This is going to be their biggest title ever. This is going to be their best selling game ever. I think it's going to be great. I think it's going to be magical. I really do. I think Jersey Jack is going to hit a home run on this game. I think people that have been rooting against this company are going to change their mind on this game. I think everybody should always go into every new game with an open mind. Of course we have prejudice. Of course we sort of want to judge a company by its last offering. Take a company like Pinball Brothers. People are basically saying Predator is going to be terrible because Queen and ABBA were lackluster and they haven't changed anyone on the team.
    13:27
    So if you were to ask me, that's a game where I think if you are saying it's going to be bad, you're most likely going to be right. We all hope we're wrong, but Pinball Brothers hasn't really put it together ever, especially on their own. Remember, Alien was designed and developed by Andrew Highway like 12, 13 years ago. And so these guys under their own accord haven't designed a great game ever. And now they're making a new game, which is a theme people really love.
    14:00
    And hopefully it has Arnold in it, but they haven't shown us that they know how to make a great pinball machine. Spooky Pinball, they keep getting better. Every game is better than the last. Evil Dead is their best game to date. Multimorphic, same thing. Their games keep getting better. Portal is the best multimorphic game to date. Whether or not people are going to go in on that platform, the market will decide. You know how I feel. I just think it's tough now. It's really tough. I think Jerry needs to sell the platform with a great game like Portal for a little bit
    14:32
    of a loss leader position. I think he needs to sell this thing for 10,000 or less. Let you go over that 10,000 threshold now. It is a red flag. It makes people cautious. They hesitate. The reason they hesitate is almost every single game, like 90% of games that have come out in the last four years that have been over $10,000, 90% of them have slid down and lost value where you can now go get them today for 10,000 or less.
    15:04
    So you've lost $5,000 on Jersey Jacks CEs. You've lost $3,000 to $5,000 on Stern LEs. I'm looking at all these Venom LEs. You can't even sell one at eight, right? You can't sell a Venom LE for $8,000. That's a $5,000 loss. It's still there. Like it's just something psychological about spending more than $10,000 on a pinball machine that isn't really limited, that isn't a dream theme. And I think that's the reality of the market now. And look, I think we all agree. I heard Zach Meny said this. I agree. Like 2025 is going to have better themes than 2024. 2024 was a really low bar though. And so we're definitely going to get better themes. I mean, Harry Potter is going to be the second biggest theme in the history of pinball. Star Wars is number one. And then we're going to get Harry Potter. I think Star Wars in terms of most popular IPs in the world, I think Star Wars is like number five and Harry Potter's number seven, but they're juggernauts. They're absolute juggernauts.
    16:03
    And I think that game is going to sell on theme alone, but I also think Eric Minier is going to make a packed, really fun game. And I hope the clips are not muted and we're going to see within a month and it's going to get exciting. You know, I want to end this podcast real quick, everybody, you know, because we're all in this sort of like waiting to see what happens next. I want to just explain in a couple of minutes why I do this show and why I get so much excitement out of this show. So, and it simply is because this is the only thing in my life where I truly have creative freedom.
    16:34
    I don't have to put up with any politics or bureaucracy. I don't have to have a committee of people working with me. I don't have to listen to what a strategist says the idea should be. I don't have to have account people telling me no. I don't have to have media relations people telling me this idea is not going to work. Every day I go into work and I deal with a lot of people. And we are working on major brands and we're trying to come up with creative ideas. And when you have a lot of people working on it, the more people you put on the assignment,
    17:05
    the more difficult it becomes to land on a very simple, fun, creative idea that's going to work. And Kaneda's Pinball Podcast to me is a very fun, simple, creative idea that has worked all of these years. to look at this hobby and not be in the back pocket of the manufacturer to give opinions and they are opinions and they are subjective My opinion isn worth any more than anyone else It just makes more money than some other opinions because people find it entertaining and I love doing it.
    17:38
    And if I didn't have this outlet, I would feel much more of an empty human. I would because I think we all need a creative outlet or we need to connect into a community that creates content and conversation that makes you feel a part of something and I think that's what most of you get from pinball it's not the machines that are making you feel great it's the relationships with the people that love talking about and playing these machines that make you feel great make you feel satisfied and I mean this if I were to lose this and all of you in this community
    18:19
    I would lose some of my best friends. I would lose the conversations I want to be having. And I would feel a lot lonelier in my existence on this planet. Of course, I love my wife. My friend is amazing. My family is amazing. But I realize this as we get older, and a lot of us are children of the 80s and the 90s. I was born in 76. As we get older, and if you work with people of all different generations, I've noticed this. You start to feel like things are moving on past you, like new things are developing that you just don't care about.
    18:53
    For example, like they might come to me and say, Hey, did you see this on TikTok? And I'm like, I don't want to spend any time on TikTok. I think that kind of content is terrible, but that's where billions of people are going. It's not like I want to shut TikTok down. I can't geek out over that stuff the way I can geek out over 80s movies, over video games we grew up with, Over pinball machines on a forum. I find TikTok to be what's horrible in society today. I think that stuff does make people lonely.
    19:25
    It is isolating. It's not bringing people together and what these people are absorbing is non-stop things that make them feel inadequate, make them feel broke, make them feel insecure. When we were kids, think about what we absorbed. We wanted to be Luke Skywalker. We wanted to be Maverick. We wanted to be the Karate Kid. The things we like plugged into took us on an adventure, right? Nowadays they don't even watch movies like the kids can't even pay attention for a movie
    19:57
    They're watching a movie for the first time and they've got a phone open They've got a laptop open and that's why I love the fact that mostly all of us we grew up Before there was any of this nonsense and we engaged and we plugged in It's also why I think pinball is not gonna stick around for that much longer. We're all gonna get old and there's not gonna be a next generation of kids that will pick up and buy these games. I do think the boutiques will always survive because face it until a lot of us are dead like we'll be buying pins into our 80s.
    20:34
    I mean it. An 80 year old man who's got money and doesn't want any of the new flashbang crap And that will still buy a pinball machine. When Gen X becomes the new boomers in the world, we're going to have the most disposable income. Hopefully we've all taken care of ourselves physically and we're still going to buy games. I just don't think like the big dogs will survive. I think the boutiques are the future because again, you're always going to be able to find a thousand customers over the next 10, 20 years in pinball.
    21:06
    What you're not going to be able to find consistently if you want to make three to four games a to become a pinball fan at millions of 거예요. You're going to go like 10 Carmander, and when I go online, but to, you know, never again, do you go back and make a bots, print or anything else again, and you never get the block makes it back again and you never get the cl ا partir so you're doing wrong in selling pins in вы glass. Dr TikTok nail polish, October 18 to 14 year old mis headquarters pinball soliones,
    21:38
    and you know some of the younger talent haven't developed any ideas and you've been working all night and everybody sort of gets by now you got to create you got to keep creating and that's why I love this show and I love my promise to you every week you're at least gonna get two shows a week and you're hopefully gonna get the Saturday morning spectacular the creation never stops and this is what keeps me going it's what keeps me excited and it's the same kind of energy I want with people I work with it's the same kind of energy I see in The other pinball content creators that are crushing it, you know who they are.
    22:10
    And it's the same reason why every month you stick around. You stick around because hopefully you're having fun and I can't wait for these new games to come out. We're going to have a great time giving our opinions about them. Everybody have an amazing Friday. Be happy to be here. Life is really short. It really is. We never should get too upset about pinball or each other. It's all going to end. But while we're here, let's stay positive and be optimistic that Jersey Jack is going to crush Harry Potter in a good way.
    22:40
    Kaneda out. Who's that? Nobody. I said, who's that?
    23:10
    I said nobody. .