Stream 514: Godzilla (Stern) LE

Don't Panic Flip·video·2h 25m·analyzed·Jan 11, 2022

Analysis

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TL;DR

Don't Panic Flip streams Godzilla LE with guest Escher, covering rules, strategy, and comparisons to other modern Stern games.

Summary

Don't Panic Flip stream featuring George and guest Escher discussing and playing Stern's Godzilla Limited Edition pinball machine. The hosts walk through game mechanics including mode selection, city swapping, multiball stacking strategies, and discuss Godzilla's position in the modern pinball landscape. Multiple raid events from other streamers interrupt gameplay with chat interaction and community building.

Key Claims

Godzilla is a great game but Jurassic Park is still the stronger choice overall
high confidence · Escher states 'Godzilla is great but um the reason i always say jurassic park wow didn't even have to finish that' when asked to compare the two games
The scoop on Godzilla is the hardest shot in the game despite not looking difficult
high confidence · Escher explains: 'there's four regular modes in the game and to light them uh it's like a lot of other sam stern pinball these days you shoot both ramps left right ramp and then it lights the scoop uh down here it's actually the hardest shot in the game it doesn't look like it but it is it is tough'
Mothra ally is useless compared to other ally options (2x multiplier and add-a-ball)
high confidence · Escher: 'one of them's light a left outlane save which is almost completely useless' and later 'you should never pick mothra ever um because mothra just isn't as good as the other two'
Godzilla has a difficult achievement requiring five raids (multiballs) in one game
high confidence · George: 'beating the game which i guess well it's not even the hardest achievement in the game is to play five raids in one game which that's five godzilla multiballs'
The premium edition of Godzilla has a spinner that disappears until you light an out-of-ball, making the pro version better for stacking
medium confidence · Escher: 'It's a lot better on the pro version of the game than the premium edition but the only reason is the spinner goes away until you light you're out of ball'

Notable Quotes

“Godzilla is great but um the reason i always say jurassic park wow didn't even have to finish that”
Escher@ 24:01 — Direct comparison of two modern Stern flagship games; indicates clear preference hierarchy even when Godzilla is acknowledged as 'great'
“you should never pick mothra ever um because mothra just isn't as good as the other two”
Escher@ 18:45 — Clear strategic guidance on mode ally selection; establishes Mothra as objectively inferior choice
“It's a lot better on the pro version of the game than the premium edition but the only reason is the spinner goes away until you light you're out of ball”
Escher@ 19:28 — Reveals mechanical differences between game tiers affecting gameplay strategy; relevant to three-tier model design philosophy
“i'm just happy it went in the scoop there”
George@ 35:21 — Reinforces that scoop is genuinely difficult shot; expressed relief at successful hit
“the only game i ever like want to actually like own is a Keith Elwin game for me okay they're always consistently have a um very deep rule set”
Escher@ 49:58 — Expresses strong preference for specific designer's work; indicates rule depth as primary ownership motivation
“good pinball etiquette you heard it here first if you do a slide save at a bar it is your responsibility to move it back if you tilt then that sucks but don't leave it”
George or Escher@ 24:30 — Community norm-setting around respectful machine handling in shared spaces

Entities

GeorgepersonEscherpersonJoe HillspersonPez Jeff JohnsonpersonKeith ElwinpersonSir SnarfpersonLeroy JenkinspersonStephen Alexanderperson Mark Steinman

Signals

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event_signal: Multiple raid events during single stream (Joe Hills 161 viewers, Pez Jeff Johnson 23 viewers, earlier Sir Snarf raid) indicating strong interconnected streaming community engagement around pinball content
high · Stream contains multiple raid notifications and host acknowledgments: 'joe hills raiding with a party of 161' and 'Pez Jeff Johnson raiding the party of 23'
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community_signal: Stream demonstrates strong community norms around pinball etiquette (slide save responsibility) and shared learning culture
high · George/Escher establishing community standards: 'good pinball etiquette you heard it here first if you do a slide save at a bar it is your responsibility to move it back if you tilt then that sucks but don't leave it'
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competitive_signal: Escher demonstrates clear strategic hierarchy in mode/ally selection (never pick Mothra, always change cities for multiplier) and emphasizes 'efficiency' gameplay on Iron Maiden, indicating evolved competitive understanding of modern Stern designs
high · Escher's detailed explanation of optimal play strategy: 'you should never pick mothra ever' and 'when it comes to just like everything else baton is really hard as well' regarding game difficulty rankings
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design_philosophy: Escher critiques Avatar's upper playfield as 'worst version of chopping wood' and criticizes the grind to wizard mode, suggesting designer misunderstanding of engagement mechanics
high · Escher: 'there's a part of me and i you know i didn't get to spend a lot of time on the Premium Edition or the James Cameron Avatar film but that upper play field is like the worst version of chopping wood in my opinion i think it's so boring'
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Topics

Godzilla (Stern) game mechanics and strategyprimaryMode selection and ally system (2x multiplier, add-a-ball, Mothra saves)primaryShot difficulty comparison (left ramp vs scoop)primaryMultiball stacking and raid mechanicsprimaryGodzilla vs Jurassic Park as modern Stern flagshipsprimaryKeith Elwin game ownership preferences and rule depthsecondaryTournament play and competitive strategysecondaryWizard mode difficulty across different gamessecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.78)— Stream maintains upbeat, enthusiastic tone throughout gameplay. Godzilla is praised as 'absolutely amazing game' and genuinely enjoyed by both hosts despite difficulty with specific shots. Escher provides patient, positive coaching. Chat interactions add celebratory tone with multiple raid events. Some minor frustrations expressed about game difficulty and missed shots, but framed constructively. Comparisons to other games generally respectful; even 'worse' games (Avatar, Star Wars) acknowledged positively while critiquing specific design choices.

Transcript

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um oh nice nice got to turn my phone brightness all the way up or it doesn't work right did you take a picture of it to save it or do you actually go into the website i go into the webpage i was gonna get it like printed on the back of my phone so i could just do it just do it from there but then i don't think that's going to work because i don't think it's bright enough i think it has to be a screen taking a picture is a good idea i might do that huh i didn't think about that actually printing it i actually have a portable printer we could try that if we wanted to yeah maybe yeah but uh just because it's like i was at a pinball jones and i was trying to log in and my phone was on low power mode and it just wouldn't work until i told you this all the way up wasn't you know yeah it could be because it's you know that place is pretty dark in there it could be that too so good evening says dice uh elves reindeer in all other manner of santa's indentured servants wow that's kind of scary you think about it that way welcome back to the only pinball show online that's got fewer calories than water guys thank you for that wonderful introduction sir snarf my hat's off to you thank you so much for that amazing raid bringing all of those beautiful people over here and that battle is already behind where's pinsomniac when you need him game club central gr bond welcome to the stream the champ 2025 john durbin durbin it's been great chatting with you online we tonight are going to be playing this absolutely amazing game we call godzilla um it's actually awesome like i was just telling esther a second ago i am really struggling on this game i feel like just to find the shots on this constantly but um but i feel like when we battled on this previously there's moments where you kind of i don't know dial in some of those shots you can't find something move on to the to the next shot uh oh and i accidentally killed the scroll that's all right um and uh and then once you find it there's a ridiculous amount of flow on this game have you found have do you feel like you've found that flow yet uh yeah uh the only shot that i don't have any flow on on most of them is the left ramp is that that shot can leave me pretty quickly right um but it's not really that important of a shot except like there's only a few things that require that shot so i don't worry about it too much you can kind of avoid it most of the time okay so and that shot is tough man that's yes you like you find it you find it and suddenly it's gone i have that issue on jurassic park with the left ramp i know it's easy it's like the easiest shot of the game once you own it for long enough that shot just kind of it like pisses you off when you miss it yeah like this is a give me shot i shouldn't ever miss it ever and all of a sudden it's left me yep left ramp right yeah so jeff a welcome to the stream uh arthur pin dragon welcome as well more like the other way around i suspect oh wait ken swift welcome as well and reich island uh oh nick got his booster he probably won't be around tonight uh getting ready to show that kid once what ken swift probably the other way around um so walking through uh a few of the basics of the game there's there's modes here let's switch spots because you actually know this game how do you go about qualifying a mode so uh there's four regular modes in the game and to light them uh it's like a lot of other stern games these days you shoot both ramps left right ramp and then it lights the scoop uh down here it's actually the hardest shot in the game it doesn't look like it but it is it is tough luckily it's not like guardians where it kills you half the time when you miss but so you shoot the scoop pick a mode it doesn't really they're all kind of you could none of them like multiballs or anything they're all regular like five to eight shots and uh yeah once you beat two regular modes you get access to the level two modes and uh those are when you can get pretty big points in those i think last stream i was in one of them for like 600 million even though yeah i've never gotten more than okay and sorry when you say the last two are you talking about the level one but the bottom two modes are you talking about the level two so once you beat any of the level one modes right it forces you to pick a level one mode and then it forces you to pick another level one mode once you beat the other one and then it forces you to pick a level two okay um one of the level twos is a multiball one of them is like a like build for as long as you want and then collect and then the other one i don't remember okay and then after you beat your first level two you can't actually lose them you just play them it's kind of like a mini wizard mode um and then you play a level one and then you play at level two and then you play the last level one i think you play a lot sorry so to to play at level two are you forced to play a level two yes you're forced to you can't like pick a level one which is a little annoying because the level ones are actually sometimes more valuable just because when you play the modes the main good thing that you get from them uh is allies which are on the play field here uh one of them's 2x one of them's light a left outlane save which is almost completely useless and then one of them is a add a ball on the action button um and yeah again besides mothra which is the left outline save they're incredibly powerful okay ow yeah only only 600 million who's al so uh ken swiss swift loves his premium i got to my first level two mode this morning that's two on two that's awesome and bill from memphis in memphis good evening all right so maybe let's give this a go i realize now that i had you do a walk through but i yeah myself i might run to the bathroom real quick before just right through that door over there it's like one of four doors need my mic no no uh you can mute it back there but it actually is a mic itself i don't know what i don't trust it i suggest just taking it off yeah i will just go ahead and do that yeah no you can disconnect it leave the mic here disconnect and just leave it oh i see but that is an active microphone by itself yeah which i'm so happy i now know about sir snarf we'll ask escher when he comes back all right first of all let's try not to drain out before uh the end of a bathroom break so i'm gonna try and do what he just mentioned which was hit that left ramp right ramp i'm gonna try to get into a mode why mute it don't want to take us with you exactly jeff how you doing man there's that amazing left ramp shot which we were just talking about is is a pretty tough shot all right so instead since i can't hit that left ramp let's go right ramp get that one all day on the fly left ramp it's fine it's fine i feel the need to just keep hitting the machine right now so it doesn't seem like uh john durbin yeah there is a shot in this game it's just to the right of the shot of the the left ramp there's this shot here and then there's another shot here and if you hit that shot it's like a 90 chance it goes right down the middle so don't hit that shot it's you unless you shoot that shot for 300 million 600 million okay there is a a part at which that shot is lit for 600 million you can it's not easy but and then at that point it's worth potentially draining yeah so i haven't actually done it yet but i have told that shooting that shot is actually a double super during the raid multiball um and you can get the super up to a max of 150 something million i think so all right guys bear with me a second i'm gonna make some adjustments to this camera because the autofocus was killing [Music] i haven't played this uh this one since last time i was here at uh or last time i was here for the battle ah okay [Music] there we go now we've got more in focus it got a little bit darker i tried to mess with the iso at the same time but uh less f-stops a less blurry background more just in general focus so that way you're not super blurred out while i'm playing and vice versa or if we both step away it tries to auto focus on something else so uh oh yes mains what i cannot i almost said it not saying it all right we're gonna find this left ramp shot there you go sure easy peasy all right yep i don't even know what i was worried about that's really easy left ramp right ramp scoop done okay so now you actually get to choose your city i think right now i'm in tokyo i think you choose your mode first because you start in tokyo you okay you always yeah so how am i allowed to choose a city um once you beat a mode you control that city and then you have the choice to either stay in the city um or you can continue to a different city the only reason you would stay in the city is that your destruction jackpot is tied the base value is tied but you don't actually ever want to stay because uh you get a multiplier when you change right so you should always change your city at this point all right for this shot is there's so many shots on this game but the next stop in this mode you hit all of the spinners and you have to get enough spins and that's how you complete it i'm really curious about the bottom right cam i can't figure out where that is the bottom right is the cam just above our heads looking down at our hands and then we've got the bottom right cam here that lets us see from like your your belly magneto8472 welcome to the stream so center stream is 40 spins the other one other two are 15. okay so that one's done then that makes sense because i almost always need to take two shots on that one so now we've got this listen here good shot on that nice and then pop bumper nice that's your first mode and now your destruction jackpot gets lit oh my gosh sorry but i got the mode yeah you finished your mode and you also have your uh ally ready right for 2x at a ball or um a lane save yes so uh is that something that uh i'm guessing in a in a tournament situation do you feel it's do you judge based on your current play which one you'd go for there or is it well again you should never pick mothra ever um because mothra just isn't as good as the other two like okay um just because like and at a ball there is a lot of multi-balls in this game like a lot a lot and uh you're almost there's always a multiball that's close it's never like oh you know i have to hit you know 12 shots for my next multi-balls here okay bridge is like two spinner shots and two like that with that shot right there all right so i have my raid multiball with ever up okay this is what usually the stack i like to do it's a lot better on the pro version of the game than the premium but the only reason is the spinner goes away until you light you're out of ball but it's three shots it's not a big deal and when you say better you mean there's a greater opportunity to score points yeah because that was epic right there i absolutely love yeah the drop on that all right i just need the center one it looks like there we go so now my uh lower spinner is lit for an outer ball sorry lower right spinner i should get that back and you said that you have a uh something lit for an attaball right now how did you set that three bottom targets it's only for this multiball got it so trust the godzilla or they call it right raid that's right i don't know why [Music] i'm running out of time here just need to finish at least one more shot there i got it anyways did you get it oh nice episode it's actually worth more if i didn't finish it there because then you get a full time bonus for the next time you start it wait durbin how many people had to die for you to get that too what which which tattoo it's got a lot of tattoos yes uh ken swift uh that one i can't answer to pick your ally once it's lit it's the right flipper that allows you to adjust or is it left uh it's right it's right okay i should trust myself it's the old uh key for select which is the flipper that you don't use to collect the thing you're changing okay so just trying to get control here good match need one more to like super any jackpot will do you can hear that right yeah it's so great to have somebody else be able to hear all of the the announcements when people do things hey ogden says go go godzilla hey ogden you're amazing my my hat's off to you thank you so much five months into tier one also george did you decide to come to tpf sir snarf i i before going to expo i think i had already bought my hotel and ticket so i was going lost my ear bud that's okay oh got it i will set it on star trek so i remember it later cool thing if you're struggling with hitting the scoop is we have two balls cradled on the right i mean i just missed it there should be a lot of points yeah okay 67. if i had one more left ramp it would have been a lot more but i'll take it um you usually can flick one of the balls into the scoop oh right right the the stacked ball trick which by the way i'll have you know playing a bunch of star trek recently yeah i remembered that you can hit that scoop when you have two balls stacked on the left and used it repeatedly fell for a nice transfer yeah yeah absolutely uh excited to see you there sir snarf awesome man i am excited to see so many more people i feel uh a yourself included but uh i do nice nudge uh i do feel like that's the next expo right like the next the next huge get-together where everyone everyone's gonna go to fly out to texas granted there's a bunch of tournaments between now and then that also will likely attract a bunch of people yeah jeff that was uh that was a serious nudge what would dice you you have something about that what if like moving the game into a different state jedi mcmuffin welcome to the stream [Music] kind of slide save than a nudge so the code is that uh um death gun just asked godzilla or jurassic park do you feel comfortable you would still say jurassic park wow didn't even have to finish that um godzilla is great but um the reason i always say what's it called there we go i moved back a little bit oh no no it's totally fine i'm not worried about that it's good pinball etiquette you heard it here first if you do a slide save at a bar it is your responsibility to move it back if you tilt then that sucks but don't leave it don't leave it don't leave your crooked or touching and making it really hard to like use your hand yeah well then they make your opponent move it back and yep it's good etiquette etiquette 101 that's the that's the first one tonight i feel like we should we should hopefully we should ask for a few more of those if you full plunge here yes you get a bridge progress done you do get a little less ball save but here we go it's the second hardest achievement probably the second hardest beyond like beating the game which i guess well it's not even the hardest achievement in the game is to play five raids in one game which that's five godzilla multiballs yeah i really don't like that those are called raid mr hard luck good evening walk the plank right then hey you got your i got an achievement i i i got like a little i i it felt good i can't help it yeah just a tiny little dopamine boost right there joey's saying thank you so much for that follow and welcome to the stream i don't know why it's 2x i haven't moved cities yet oh i did i guess i didn't move cities i'm thinking about it oh specifically the destruction jackpot every time you move a city gets multiplied again and again yes so how do you increase the the destruction jackpot values every mode every multiball it increases the bottom like the worst it can be by a million or two million i don't remember okay something like that and then uh just playing the game yeah so it passively gets bigger and then it's like five percent of multiballs ten percent of like your power like everything builds it by a little bit but that value goes away when you change cities okay so the question becomes when someone i i feel and i don't know if i'm right here but um i feel like from a tournament players perspective there's a lot of games where there's like a certain thing you have to do and in some games there's some flexibility on what you can do but there's usually like this is the preferred strategy yeah is it the goal of a of a good game design and software to kind of force you to play the game to get points or force you to play through and do a bunch of different things so it's not as simple as like what's the one single strategy um so you're saying like that they want to program the game in a way to make it or i guess i i i i hate the idea of um of having a game this awesome be distilled down into oh you do these three things and that's how you get big points and played in the tournament well i mean you could start it up again oh yeah um i mean at the end of the day every single there's a player three that's all right um yeah so i mean at the end of the day every game kind of turns into that like there's always a meta to the game sure um it just comes down to how interesting it is right like is the meta to shoot the left ramp on scared stiff the entire game and not play anything else right that meta sucks is it a meta that requires you to set something up and execute it properly like godzilla oh sorta they're getting there um then i mean that's interesting that's not like me shoot to left ramp it's like you gotta like actually process what you're doing and i think that's what cern's going for mostly on their codes or just make it so there is something worth going for but that's something is interesting enough that people will want to own the game right okay so yeah and that's i i feel like a lot of that is is depth you're saying regardless there's going to be a meta no matter what you do yeah something chat said like mandalorians shoot the middle um so mandalorian's a good example of how stern turns the game from being i'm going to shoot me shoot center ramp to a game that has some sort of like thing and that's the scope on that game like being able to like add a multiplier to everything that you're doing which is so like if your opponent just shoots the center ramp and plays all the four multi balls on ball one and they're sitting at 400 million like that's great but you can do that in a single ice fighter with a fire triangle right sure so sorry when you say fire triangle what do you mean when you get six when you get all three running because then it doesn't you know it's like quality over quantity but sometimes that quality is too hard to make it you know really good so so that's the way that stern kind of turns it into not just me me shoe centered around too i don't mind getting that back oh yeah uh ken swift uh was uh concerned because you started to say yjp over godzilla and then you tilted and i think you'll feel the same way after godzilla code is complete towards player three oh you wanna flip for this let's do it yeah so right now i'm not 100 sure on where godzilla is going like as a game um once i know once the game's finished i think i can do a little more fair of an analysis but jurassic park is everything perfect with owning a game i'm gonna oh keep this combo growing yeah okay all right well now i gotta shoot this center yeah so yeah so the reason i love god's uh jurassic park so much is because to get to the end there's three achievable ends for most people right like they aren't impossible and they're fun to get to and every single mode in that game is enjoyable to play there is nothing that's a slog like jurassic park you're saying yeah okay there's nothing that's like oh i gotta you know play through this like star wars lightsaber duel like those kind of modes are the worst i do not like lightsaber especially in a dark area like that it's just it's it's blinding and hard to follow yeah and unfortunately godzilla has one of those modes right now but i it's getting there which is the rampage mode it's unskippable it's not really worth that much it's not very much fun to play but it's not finished so i can't give it a proper right right it's still pointing point eight one point yeah it's still there and it's still a pain in the ass but uh jurassic park doesn't have any of those modes and the ending like the true end like the like to finish the game it's incredibly difficult like only a few people have ever done it and i think that's really cool right it is a tough deep game and i really do like that catching up on chad i've got one no i'm gonna hit the shot does that time out on me yeah i mean you already timed it out by four seconds so then it stops because you can't just time out a mode by holding the flip rope it stops counting right right okay it stops okay but we're trapped back up so um cell processing thank you so much for that follow shake up the meta godzilla plus three attack damage iron peanuts i skidoo thank you yes i do have a fox on my shoulder um i got this for uh downhill mountain biking and realized that i actually really like this shirt so i ended up wearing it uh like penguin in batman 66 oh that was while you were talking wait penguin is a good mode or an irritating mode uh i assume he's meaning irritating mode um but you see the differences between penguin is it is a hundred percent on you when you start that mode like if you pick penguin you chose to play penguin like it's not like it just came out of nowhere like you made the conscious decision that like okay i'm gonna play penguin because when the bathroom starts shooting both ramps to swap it to catwoman or shooting you know like anything to swap it like that's in your that's you're doing to start rampage or lightsaber duel you don't get really a choice like yeah it happens yeah and you're locked into it um what's the deal of pain in the ass modes who are they for i'm not sure i think someone on the team goes like this is a good idea this is a cool idea for a mode but then and they make it and they're like okay this mode's fine how it is now but then they don't bother you know finishing it i've never seen this by the way when there's a ball locked oh well the original locks are gonna be awesome in this game so i now in order to to get to my level two i have to do something else in the game right what do you mean so uh i can't go left ramp right right because i completed my first mode oh you need to swap your cities now so how do i swap cities uh in the scoop and when it's lit yellow when it's the select city oh so yeah the the big brother you guys catch that there you go so uh make sure you pick your anguirus here so when you go into multiple you have an out of ball uh make sure oh thank you got it yep makes sense so make sure you swap cities it doesn't really matter which city you pick as long as as long as it's a different city yes okay that's when we talked about thinking fast i'm i'm not i'm not thinking about that right then i don't i don't know this well enough i'm just happy it went in the scoop there you go so maybe you can prove me wrong maybe you can get mothra to not [Laughter] yeah you want to bring a mode in just going right in because now your rams are lit to bring in the battle okay no no that was a player mistake you're right once i changed the city i for whatever reason thought i was in a mode i'm like okay oh yeah you hit the scoop right yeah yeah no no i hit i did the scoop i did the thing yeah escher have you got to rock city wizard mode on kiss no i got really really cl i got close enough that i'm like i don't want to ever play this game again but i didn't get it like which i remember that game because i got no i know i did get to it but it wasn't when i got to it it wasn't in the game yet like i got it too like early on and it was nothing uh then after the game was like finished where they like balanced everything and put it in i never it wasn't that lions anymore so i never got to play it so i guess i yeah so i guess technically i have never gotten to it but uh there's a few wizard modes that i haven't gotten that i'm still chasing oh so what specifically i'm curious about that um what was the oh i mean the main one i've been chasing that isn't really a super mode but is like a concept of a super mode is the three billion shot on [Music] indy 500 is the game that i had never never played until recently and kind of kind of enjoyed it is a great game now the shots feel good in it it plays fast as hell but uh it's fun it's a really fun game to shoot and yeah it is a really fun game to shoot that's exactly it like it plays really there's a great flow to it kevin carrington jp is your favorite right out of every game sorta i guess yeah definitely to own tournament wise not really because the game is really stressful in tournaments because there's so many things that can go wrong um but uh ooh i'm curious what's your what's your if you don't mind saying i just realized that like somebody could use it against you but what is your what's your i i blow i blow it up every time i play a pin you're trying to get the ball to fall then i get the lights off there we go move it up we're like i'm trying to figure out where i'm going well uh sorry so favorite uh what's in a tournament you're like this is my go-to game if it's there and it exists i can blow it up iron maiden there's no score that someone can put up against me and i'll go like i can't beat that okay like i am so comfortable on that game that i know every rule and like where i am all the time because i probably played it the most out of any modern stern like at my house um so yeah that game like i was down a billion on to alexander in expo going into ball three and i still felt confident and i tied his score when i trained and he had another ball still because he did that game he did everything that i would have wanted to do but didn't because that game is purely about efficiency like that is the entire point of the game is how many points can i get in one mode and do it in a safe way kind of thing i keep hitting these spinners for like a couple spins but not enough to like so catch it back up here uh bill from memphis wants to know if you ever finished uh simpson's pinball party um yeah actually it was not that long ago i finished it because i had never gotten to it i had like been very close a couple times but like an annoying close which is like i didn't get a super in scratchy's revenge which is the game killer wow wow that was a nice ramp jump um yeah there's a few things in that that game that if you mess up when you're 35 minutes into a game you have no longer have the potential to get to the end and that sucks and now the biggest one is scratchy's revenge which is the fifth itchy and scratchy mode you have to get a super in it to get the progress what am i doing nice and uh yeah if you don't get the super you have to go through all five again and they the difficulty stays the same like i no one has ever i can say that easily that no one has ever gotten to a tenth itchy and scratchy multiball um man i just can't hit the center shot there we go um but yeah no it was funny uh we had my dad had some like old rugby friends over and they were staying at uh our barn which is i say barn but it's the nicest barn you've ever seen and it also has all of our games in it and they were having fun like learning how to play pinball and he's like oh what's the hardest game to get to the end on let go uh we actually have it everyone thinks it's this game where in reality it's not really the hardest you just need to have the perfect game come together where you don't mess anything up so i guess in some sense of the term yeah it is the hardest but i would say like when it comes to just like everything else baton is really hard as well [Applause] but yeah no i was just like showing him the game and like how to get to the end and of course i got it not only did i get it i had like three extra balls still like it wasn't even close wow um well there we go so yeah i've gotten that one i've also gone valinor a couple times validor's a lot of fun to get to even though it's a slog that is exactly how i would have described it based on watching the the one guy mark steinman oh man i can hear that [ __ ] now oh yeah that scream like you can feel it that is to me the definition of the word visceral like that is i get it you want to hit the button for me yes hold it down you have to hold it down keep recharging 203 million and he can do it himself but i have a camera in the way so that's why i hit it no i was just giving you the honors oh but thank you [Applause] nice replay if i finished elvis uh no but i think i watched my dad do it when i was like seven because the only time i've ever had access to an elvis was at lions like when i was like five to 11 years old and i was nowhere near good enough um it's funny because i feel like elvis is that game that is in every dingy bar um oh really that gave me two i already had one i don't remember where i got one i wasn't paying attention um yeah no it's great elvis is in every dingy bar like that is the dingy bar game that is the end this is their cheapest [ __ ] it's also broken oh yeah it never works right like the drop targets never come up so you can't even get to the end if you wanted to split flip oh yeah i forgot that because i accidentally hit the start button twice that's okay i can't even see that all right oh that's okay we're gonna get that back try i meant to do that sure oh i'm not going to hit the flippers i don't want to watch the animation yeah just play guy again that would be fun okay i'll miss your drop capture which one's gigant right well it's normally awesome there you go that's coming over oh so this is the ramps all right come on we got this yeah there's one see if i can do my part nearly there's views try number two yeah that looks good all right now me there you go i mean i make this look easy all right all right cool cool cool [Music] uh another rant somebody just did oh man do you know the real hills raiding with a party of 161. joe you're amazing welcome everybody guys we are playing uh some godzilla and we have a very special guest with us tonight this is escher escher is an amazing pinball player i play pinball yeah you play he he plays pinball he plays football pretty dang well yeah joe how was your stream thank you so much for sending all of those wonderful people over here raiders this is the newest pinball machine from stern it's awesome and uh i'm not going to show you how to play it well but this guy here is going to show us how to play it really really well trying to yeah extra goes hard in the playfield paint dice well said uh lunara thank you so much for that follow my my hat's off to you all right so i have i don't remember where you are i have a kaiju battle lit and i i mean i'm not gonna you saw a ball say if that's okay oh i'm not gonna be that guy but you know you know what's still here after you played a multiball like three drains and plus like an out of two out of balls and all that you know which hasn't been used yet mothra it's still there mothra is still on youtube it's still there pez johnson raiding the party of 23. what's happening pez thank you so much that is amazing thank you for bringing 23 beautiful people over we just got double rated joe uh is an amazing streamer streams a mixture of minecraft and then in the mornings we'll do all kinds of artistic stuff super fun if you guys aren't following joe hills you absolutely should be um give his name a click give him a follow uh and then in addition we just got rated by pez johnson another awesome and colorado local pinball streamer who i think it was em monday is that right pez um and uh was just on streaming as well if you guys are not following pez johnson you absolutely should be click the name click that follow button he's uh he's awesome sauce so let's see what we can do here i'm gonna go for this left ramp since i can't pose transfer totally got it i fell down the minecraft hole again since last time i was here oh really yeah playing it eight hours a day when i'm not doing homework other things yeah that's fine the raid notification is uh the leroy jenkins you know he lives in broomfield or i don't know if he still does that's where he used to live he was a plumber from like 20 minutes really yeah like 30 minutes away ah that's awesome i had no idea yeah uh red viper wants to know what you're planning to major in uh well since last time i've had to actually choose what my major is even though i still don't really know what i want to do um which is i'm just doing business and marketing right now because it's easy to turn that into most things i don't feel it and uh mahi's zero says the trick is to stream your minecraft playing so you can make money while you play yeah follow the joe hills path exactly oh man fliptronic throws out pinball ology at the same just before dice put uh he's going for a phd in pinball ology fliptronic wins sorry we got the evidence right there dice nice nudge that's gonna you're gonna tilt on me not quite double danger we're just gonna give that a second to cool down it's cool no i'm just gonna keep going [Laughter] oh remember i don't have the ear things i've not purchased those yet the okay i kind of need to do my jet fighter i drain or i tilted immediately after i started it last time all right now dakota mike unboxed his godzilla pro today super happy to have one before the year is out lucky you man yeah i just got my premium today or i guess it's not really mine because it's not like at my house or my apartment uh even though it is my game that i won but so wait was that the game that you got for winning expo uh last expo not this one oh wow okay i still have one he's only getting one game yeah exactly yeah the only game i ever like want to actually like own is a keith ellen games for me okay they're always consistently have a um very deep rule set that's worth like owning so you can play it just like session out on it for a couple hours and uh you know i don't want to gamble like i'm getting a mandalorian oh that was like milliseconds away from not giving me that back there's a part of me and i you know i didn't get to spend a lot of time on the premium or le for mandalorian but that upper play field on the pro is like the worst version of chopping wood in my opinion i think it's so boring it got so boring and the game in itself just to get to the wizard mode kind of guys this is so so grindy so but did it so like i would like and i got to the end my very second game ever playing it and it's like i don't want to own this right and right it didn't feel like anything i did during that play through because like when you get to like run to the hills or something like again you have to play control because if you don't play controlled it's not gonna work out well for you like you just don't have the ball time um but uh [Music] unlike mandalorian i kind of just flipped away just just let the ball play it where it lies yeah basically and i got to the end so it's like i you know but so by the way escher is putting out a show here guys but this is this is like standard operating procedures for escher you guys are seeing the i'm guessing i'm based on the ifp ranking you're you're what you're top 10 in the world yeah um i think i'm fifth right now okay so number five without expo oh right yeah this is exactly this is a clinic right now that was a 50 million point super jackpot yeah i got 2x playfield running because i already had my atta ball done i have another attaball ready to go which i'm gonna go ahead and take now so i don't want to worry about it because nice live catch yeah just want to get to my next super that's where the money is so uh durbin you were asking about video quality earlier and the context we don't have to go into but the i'm just looking looking at the playfield right now and being able to see what azure's doing it i am very happy with the with the camera right now i went too early oh i hit the shot okay so question for the pro says uh jedi gill um i always have issues draining the ball uh on the outlanes what's the general advice to try to prevent this if you're already at the outlanes and you're doing something wrong right more of like not that you missed and that you're there because of it more of like years always something you can do beforehand like more of like you want to get it when you have when you can bump it off the top of the swing kind of thing because if it's already like in the outlane you're not going to save that like those are like the incredible saves that people always clip and everything of like when the ball's basically dead right and you someone like you know like brings it back from the dead but um if you just you know get rid of it when it's like above the sling then it doesn't even need to get to that point in the first place that's why when people are playing well it's not like oh the ball just never drains for them well yeah because first off they're not missing very much and second off they're doing all the nudging before where you can before it actually gets to the out yeah so the key i think there though is in is in nudging right yes okay everything's in nudging and uh i know that the the the common thing is to you have to build that muscle memory right in order in order to get into a habit of nudging at the appropriate time yeah no it's hard uh that is the difference between that's one of the main differences because we were just talking about this before the stream which is the jump between being a b plus player and being an a player it is the hardest jump to make in all pinball like of skill because it looks people are like i don't know what i'm doing wrong right like what is what has changed between me and keith helped i'm gonna improve my nudging upwards or it depends upwards is the easiest to learn and can be the most effective a lot of the time uh the steeper the game the less effective it becomes okay that's really good to know so if the game is set you're on location somewhere and it's set over seven degrees up might not be the best thing yeah you gotta you gotta figure it out just because when it's floaty it touches the top of the swings a lot more than when it's very steep got it oh so you're saying the the angle of getting into a position where you can actually well was that yours that was mine that just fell out oh man i left someone called that table i also want to throw out dice says hey dpf all you have to do is watch what he does then do it during your turn that's easy yeah stepping mine up next game uh yeah nudging is the hardest thing to learn but it's also the best thing to learn because it works on every game it's not like an exclusive to modern stearns or an exclusive to valley williamses or ems you can do it on everything all right let's hit that kaiju battle and summon ally yep i have it on the la nope oh got it we're good all right i'm gonna shoot the spinner here and you're not gonna flip the upper flipper okay done [Laughter] yeah and that's the other thing that i always say is oh the best way to get better at pinball is to watch watch watch Keith Elwin play for a while that helps that's just that's just a rule again just watch people watch people play because when you watch people play it's really easy to see what they're doing that you're not like oh there you go so i didn't i probably didn't need to nudge that but i'm trying to hit that bottom i don't think i can quite backhand it yeah not quite sorry what am i hitting bottom nice shot the shield he's vulnerable all right don't miss it's easy as that last time i said that it didn't go well wait go go for the go for the multiball will sit here yeah pinball on the computer are you kidding me come on learn my guy i know there's a pandemic going on i'm so happy you can hear this that's making me feel so good at the bar didn't bring any freaking quarters i hope you have a great day cheers chaotix ah thank you so much for that thanks for the primer that's what you say as a twitch streamer right is that a thing yeah the primer to the prime subscription you get one and he chose to use it on you thank you so much for the primer i like that yeah although i feel like it's a gray paint yeah something like that you got to be like one of those super loud obnoxious streamers okay any of the blue things or the yellows i'm sorry i keep going for yellow there you go oh i'm surprised that survived try to hit the scoop when you get a chance can do preferably before our multiball ends i'm really trying i can play it slow here all right we're good guys we having our out of ball for later trying to hit any but the center of the blue targets any but the center okay we're good [Music] so this drains it's not the end of the world okay i'm gonna try and get in the scoop nicely done okay [Music] i didn't hit the center dude this is my shot that i got hit okay try and hit it quick upper there i got it okay so now you shoot the spinners you build the super not that like it's really worth anything it doesn't matter if you play as aggressive as you want right now we have that at a ball still nice save okay now we got to shoot the tail whip shot okay maybe not worth it but oh okay we got it i don't get a lot of mecca supers but we're back to it now nice out of ball this is going well i do say so myself you are allowed to say that sir we beat you beat yourself you kind of screwed me there by holding the flipper up but that's okay well i was trying to catch it i apologize okay there we go i ruined it no we're good i was a probably the best mecca i've ever played well it wasn't even me so should i go for the kaiju battle here uh let's go ahead and enter destruction hit the destruction jackpot because the lights are or not wow that was quite the shot gonna blame that one on the angle so what do we put in for the initials because that's definitely the champ that is uh you know what that should uh we should put that one in for joe or yeah no yeah oh there so joe what are your initials when when when you put in a high score on guardians what are you putting in putting jbh all right pez you're up next and pez is really easy because it's p-e-z nice that's gonna be a hard one to beat until they buff mechagodzilla because it's pretty worthless right now but you you threw up a measly 1.3 billion yeah so much [Laughter] all right okay keep us going well do you want do you want to switch it up are you good with that sure we can switch it up all right so we have to oh oh i didn't know you could do that you could do that cool i just did that and totally took it like i knew what i was doing all right i gotta catch up on chat i missed out on a ton so you keep doing your thing uh just because i saw it in chat i said you just got your 500 million best on guardians nice a solid game sorry top row pinball has screaming on lockdown inside the tpm crew oh okay um let's see here how long has it climbed to number five oh how long has your climb to number five taken uh six no 14 years 14 years to get there yeah and i sucked for a very very long time i was not good guys just practiced right yeah believe it or not you get better at things the more you do it most of what yeah i know it's pretty wild that whole ten thousand hour thing actually yeah that's like a yeah it's crazy that's like a real thing you know uh well do you know bex just said jedi being silly dang it sounded just like her so good man love it and i'm still catching up here on chad out of all the shots i've ever seen that sure was one of them dice i can tell you were talking about one of my shots and i know that was minutes ago it's okay i'm i'm gonna blow this game up now when are we seeing escher on ultraman hello yeah when's uh so when's the uh was the thunderbird stream coming oh man when are you gonna own a thunderbirds i honestly would buy a thunderbirds at this that's that's a take for sure [Laughter] i just i i it gets it gets it gets uh maturated upon uh more so than i it's not the worst game ever created it's just not a good game and if that you'd think that you could buy one for two or three grand in a two or three grand for a pinball machine okay i can sell that again is that how much they are i thought there were more i have no idea they're way more for i don't think there's very many of them at all uh if forward nudging is the most important kind of nudging on flatter more level usually older pins what is the most important kind of nudging on relatively steep modern pins um wait i got this one non-forward no so i was actually getting still safe forward okay because ford's the easiest to learn it is very applicable uh like there is a lot of games that it will work on that's that sucks um the other one is being able to understand when you need to hit something off the side you see people do it all the time i did it when i was like 12 and i thought i was doing something it was like doing this and like doing moves that don't actually do anything because moves you don't need to do a slide save for every move more contact the ball has on the game the better like the more a move matters so like if i do a slide save the idea of the slide save is why you have to move it so much is because it's not touching anything right like that is a free floating ball so you gotta really move like the entire play field for it to actually like do anything right that makes sense so when you're nudging you can nudge like a tiny little bit it's like the difference right you know like when you're trying to like get a ball to jump a gap right yes you don't have to nudge it very hard at all because you have direct contact with the flipper which is the same as a you know like a rubber of like a um slingshot or anything or you know like anything on the side of the machine so okay so still still top-notching you haven't been even in a stern that's still the that's still like make sure you're doing all types of nudging when it's actually touching something because if it's not touching anything you're not doing anything unless there's no tilt rubber and you can or tilt and you can just throw the game around but uh and i saw your question i saw in chat was like where was the line between an a player and a b player oh yeah so i was just about to get to that um and this is a hot take here but it's probably top 50 in the world um because there's this giant disparity between players i can't tell it's not it's never one thing right it's not like become a top player with this one simple trick right it's like you need to have everything at a decent spot to be able to compete with like Keith Elwin right that's why when i say a player that's what i mean like you win tournaments a lot and not just like local tournaments like you win you have the cape you're like wow oh man that was rough yeah it's like oh i see your name in the final four of expo it's like okay yeah that's not surprising right kind of thing and that you never miss the cut to any tournament and like all these things right it's like you are you're a player right that's like an a player in my mind and that's being top 50. again there's people under the top 50 that i see that way so boof tried to unsub but he's already not subbed oh wow i am still so far behind we're catching up on so much people keep here you're yeah that's all you know uh what's worse than thunderbirds uh there was this awesome game at pinburg i played called bandwagon from like the 60s that game sucked real bad yeah you could buy two to three grand worth of hammers and rope hang them from the ceiling and walk hitting your head repeatedly i mean that's like thunderbirds right uh right after you get a oh yeah popeye's just no pogba is bad but it's not thunderbirds bad like there's some redeeming qualities i took three shots by the way which was right ramp left rams nice boom efficiency do i know eagle mcmahon mcmahon he's a big disc golfer from colorado talking about disc golf i've been doing a lot of disc golf myself i've been playing a lot it's a lot of fun this golf is so much fun yeah yeah now that you're out here have you i'm assuming you've done a door i have not actually i need to go do that oh my god you have to go do a torah that's the course i've done i've probably done that course 200 times yeah i gotta go i haven't really every time i've gone disc golfing i've gone with uh but i got that shot you did shot that's what matters is being a professional pinball player as a full-time career nope not at all not even a little bit the closest anyone has been is keith elwin and that's because he became a designer but that was after it wasn't because he was a player it was because he was a great designer as well right and that's just because there's not enough money in the tournament yeah like keith was the closest because he would win pinburg almost every year and that was 15 grand for first and even then i mean you could almost live on that maybe but not really there's no sponsorship well and you're not going to win every time yeah you're not going to win there's the travel to get out there you have to pay taxes on it yeah uh they'll keep going the b player range for me is anyone that has the ability to win the tournament but is not consistent right so like you know a lot of local players are those b players right like in your arcades right you have these players that are incredible sometimes and a lot of the times they are but they're still missing just something and you put them in a big tournament they never do well because it's not like playing location right right they got used to the machines or they fold under pressure so i'm curious how much does playing under pressure come into come into that level of play um a lot more than people think i'm pretty sure enough so that i would make it as one of the highest like that is a one of the biggest skills of pinball is being able to walk up to a game being down x amount of points and being able to actually not just crumble and lose right right not not uh get up there to to go hit shots and suddenly just you're you're you're done you're defeated already you know it too like when you're playing anyone that's played in a tournament knows you know when you're out you your brain tells you like it's not like oh i'm out that's a surprise like you know it's coming yep um i guess there are some players that just don't pay attention to like anything besides the game but even then flintronic wants to know if you also enjoy bowling uh i'm okay at bowling it's not like my thing um i haven't bowled since i was like a kid but again when i went to the bowling alley in seattle when i was on the vacation i would go to my grandma's house every year i would always look forward to it because they had a pinball machine in the arcade and not because i was bowling so now a lot of pinball players are bowlers though eric stone from florida is really good like really really good i think he's done like a bunch of 300s oh like um that kind of makes sense right yeah uh raymond davidson surprise surprise is also really good at bowling um i did not know that i'm pretty sure he is goof used to bowl nice uh okay so higher peanut d players represent the d and d players stands for drain i'm right there with you uh let's see here boof loves that pressure yeah i mean that's like why people play pinball right you're like you like to be stressed out of your mind i okay so why do you play pinball i'm gonna jump on this one first the thing i like most about pinball is it's me versus the machine and i i get not in competitive right there's all these other things that come into play in competitive right like it's it's the location it's the fact that somebody else just put up a huge score but when it's just me at home if i want to get better it's just it's just me yeah and i love that about about the game like i can get better if i spend the time and i and i and i learn and i continue trying to refine my skills on it that for me is what i like so much about about pinball yeah and the art is really cool and uh i think that's a lot of it's very similar to a lot of things that people play like you know like fighting games rhythm games all of that right that's i could see rhythm games sure but fighting games yeah it's the same way except in fighting games you're putting yourself in someone else right well but you're always fighting somebody else yeah so i guess that is a little bit different right yeah but like rhythm games is a great example i think because when you're playing a rhythm game you can feel yourself improving that's why people play i think that is a perfect comparison rhythm games it's not competitive although i'm sure there are competitive rhythm games out there but it's it's you versus the machine yep it's yeah and that's what's uh arthur pendragon says i used to be great at atari 2600 bowler that counts right sure totally beat saver says dice now is beat saber a rhythm game it is okay um well it's kind of hard until you actually play it yourself but you do get scored on every single note you hit um which also the scoring doesn't make a lot of sense for me i've only played a couple times i'm just taking this multiball because my next mode is a um i got stuck in there again that's true hey that's the way to do that [Music] um welcome to the stream george tell us i said hello and if he needs any pinball tips just discord him so earlier when i was talking about cameras and how if if manu was was here right now he would tell me that like george stop making up words and say that the mic is hot or something that's mpt 3k right there that's that's the guy he has mp3 in his name man he does it's a mystery pinball theater as opposed to mystery science theater 3000. but uh yeah if you ever have any incredibly niche or any pinball questions at all that you need answering you can always dm me on discord i will get back to you in 30 seconds to four hours at some point so sorry escher do you have a discord i do i don't i don't have a discord server but you can find me on oh god raymond okay got it i lurk i use discord all the time is it still stevo pub or do you yeah okay uh i think it's like two six seven eight i believe two six seven eight i'm putting that in there so um i mean you have my our discord dms just oh my god yeah i do we have literally been chatting so i can just grab that hold on i'm gonna figure that out two seconds here peeps so again if you have any uh questions or again like niche rule set things i can probably help you with that that's the one thing that a lot of people like think about and do um you know it's like oh i don't want to give away all my like secrets right because it's like i'm gonna use this in a tournament um there's only like there's only a few things that like i wouldn't just tell anyone because they have like major like you shouldn't do them in tournaments kind of thing like there's this one on johnny demonic i'm not going to say that will make it completely useless as a tournament game if people knew about it so it's more about etiquette than it is you're concerned about somebody using that yeah i was like i'll never use that i i absolutely love that that mentality it's the same thing for for streaming and and pinball playing it was honestly it was one of the few things that really got me into the hobby was uh the first time i went into a league and i'm playing competitively against these other people i know oh man that sucks i'm sorry yeah i saw it coming that's why i started holding the button right like this doesn't feel good and and i'm sitting there playing competitive with uh competitively with other people and i say competitively let's just assume that it was a competition not that i was playing competitively at the time i still can't do that but what was cool is i had people stopping me when i trapped up and being like dude do you know the rules to this game let me walk you through a few things yeah no i had people literally walking me through how to beat them in a game in a tournament you know like that i mean that's awesome in a pinball right because if you are the better player then you will be able to apply that rules better than a guy that just started playing exactly right exactly it's so great like like that's the story i always say about that is i was at ifpa in italy and i was playing against um people from where was it it's i don't remember which country but they did not have access to a beatles right and if you don't know how to play beatles you and don't know how to like pick your song or anything like you are screwed like you cannot win because if you don't pick multiball on ball three you cannot beat someone else like that multiball but it's a guarantee right everyone gets it so i could have said nothing and just let it up to like that one in three chance that they don't pick the blue mode right but that's you know that's stupid that is good bad pony owning as i like to say on here confirmed ethical strats only okay and it's the same thing with with streaming uh i feel like i'm gonna throw this out there but like the idea of learning attack or learning how to do something and not sharing that with the community so everybody can can figure out how to do some some cool sunswitch or you know if you want boca or if you want something else like holding on to that tech it's it's it's like yeah you can do it but it's like so it's fun being able to brag sometimes and you're like yeah that's my thing right like that's another part of it it's like sharing something cool that you found is something about being in a sport right right wow i got two for that more of not like bragging but being able to say like i contribute this to the community right like that feels good being able to say like i improved something you know right yeah absolutely so i gotta catch back up with uh with chat here started uh oh no hold up wow jedi you get better by learning ball control skills and practicing these and playing with people that are more skilled than you and watching them and trying to study the timing of how they control the ball learning to shoot less on the fly and showing the ball slowing the ball down so it's not so wild all the time i like that yeah so the number one like thing in pinball that i always say is that you will always miss a drain that is a given right like but it comes down to how often do you get to miss right right and if the answer is i die after i miss then you need to slow everything down kinda right like you play controlled and you play smart and a lot of the times it will go better for you than if you were to just flail around wildly and what bothers me is how there are people who consistently stay in the top 50 and don't play like that it's okay you can say andre's name okay andre messing that's masculine there is no one else like him he is his own breed man he's his own thing i love that he well and he's he's way way way past that 10 000 hour mark like and even now like if you watch andre play like new andre is not like old andre new andre is still way more like aggressive but he still cradles up in multiball he still plays smart he takes it slow sometimes right he has his own thing and once you're that good and that accurate you can have your own thing you don't have to play like the boring way like everyone else you know yeah be your own uh be your own player yeah so andre has uh streamed with uh speaking of mpt 3k has streamed uh at free gold watch with manu several times because i think he's out there in the san francisco yeah he is that's also in our reason why he's so good is that he lives in california and everyone from california is pretty good and if you live in a place like colorado california chicago um all these places where you have all these incredible players you don't have a choice when you play in a local tournament that can i be casual and still win you're not going to win yeah you are you got it you're playing you know you can't expect that you're going to win a tournament where both carl and um carl and uh jim valcido are in you're not going to win one of them is going to win and most likely both of them will be in the finals right boop said the same thing you just said at the same time about jim yeah well it's true and that's the same thing here in colorado you will see walt and you will see dino in almost every denver tournament finals you know yep like and you don't oh i mean don't forget the uh the escher and adam guys too yeah those guys as well i mean in denver though we don't really go to that many locals in denver we go to the big ones right but we don't go to like seriously for a moment there and i'm like no no there's somebody else who shows up and it's kind of like oh crap the like good pin oh wait it's you yeah so and there is a level to it right like if you're going to a monthly and you see like you're here to have fun with friends and play pinball you don't want to play keith or or sorry you don't want to play donovan or you don't want to play walt and that's completely fair if you're there to have fun but then if you're there to have fun and that then it's like you know you got to pick sometimes you know you can't have it at all that way you know i don't know damn you keith i but that is a hundred percent on keith for having or it's not keith i think it's actually dean grover from colorado wow thank you mothra yeah that was nice mother coming to the rescue yeah i'm going it's from author of this point forward you're right mantra is actually the best team up i've seen the light no it's because there's a light show and i couldn't see which one i was on so yeah and yeah if you see colin and rob all the time then you don't have a choice you're playing them man like they're they're really good so if you're gonna be a top player then you gotta get better and that's what makes people improve at anything really wait replying to fargo sorry i missed something here i had a guy beat his wife oh my gosh fargo oh ouch so fargo is another streamer uh who uh streams out in north dakota and has a location with a whole bunch of great games people live in north dakota i thought they had like the one thing and that was it just the movie and that's pretty much it right yeah they got like what did like the president's carved into the wall that's north dakota that's south dakota oh that's south dakota yeah you're talking rushmore oh so that north dakota is like i live close to canada right yeah i think so actually yeah exactly that's not even the best dakota imagine being in dakota and not even living in the interesting one uh but that really sucks to hear man i'm so sorry fargo yeah and that's and that's the other thing is like if you're in a tournament practice good etiquette i know you were saying that we should come back to it and let's just make that now okay so moving games back that's in our big thing number one don't be a [ __ ] it's not that hard number two don't be a dick and i'm saying that that's my that's my swear word for tonight yeah um like you don't have to rage till every ball like you don't have to do it it bothers me it bothers everyone it bothers everyone and yet you know it's just like a thing right and it gets worse right and you being able to like be a td and you have the choice to save people to not do that i mean it's not a bad idea to just kill it when it's earlier you know yeah but i get it there's like a line between like trying to save the ball of course and um you know actually rage shielding but oh i i had a ball cradled and i didn't have enough time to hit my right flipper twice on the two stage so i got two x's at a ball but that's okay that was still like 200 million the rage tilt to me feels like like this is somebody's game right like somebody bought this the game gets tilted often but that's while playing and it's like oh no oh i'm so sorry well i still got uh it dried up really fast but i got a lot of points really quickly so it was okay i mean it's not a bill so yeah i got our ball though oh yeah okay okay whoo all right i got my works cut out for me here don't be a richard as you swear don't be a richard is your swear word dpf i don't understand that statement is that a tummy boy reference so uh people that are named dick will go by richard or is it the other way around they're richard and their their nickname would be dick yes yes okay so then saying richard is essentially saying dick so you can bypass that um we all have yeah so yeah no rage tilting is always a thing and that's like as a top player like all top players i think have that responsibility to definitely not rage tilt because you're setting an example for people that are trying to get better because a lot of the time people at rage tilt they're mad at themselves more than anything because they're not playing well right right and if you watch Keith Elwin when he loses the tournament he walks away from the game and shakes the guy's hand and says good game right like how awesome is that like somebody who can control their emotions the majority of top players do that and i think it's really important that they continue to do that because you know like joe schmoe who's been playing pinball for two months right that just this is his first tournament and then he gets you know watches like a top player lose and then like complain and rage killed and i mean that's not good no exactly like what kind of president are you setting right so george having things explained to him by the 18 year old yeah but yeah that age doesn't matter because i've been playing for 16 years and you've been playing for four total four total so there you go yeah so that's you should change it so it's the 14 year old experienced player is selling the the noob complete noob how about a complete noob you can drop catch better than the majority of players um but uh you still apply it correctly your dad has been playing this for a long time so it's not just your personal experience it's all the things that that your dad has taught you over time as well nice nudge man oh shoot boo george your game sucks man i don't get to do [ __ ] that was a great save that was the up and down i was talking about see it you got to do it before it goes into the island i went before but i tilt it because your game is an airplane but that's okay it's not it's not ear plugged i need to get earplugs yeah so we're going to do a amazon stream where we're going to go to your amazon and order [Laughter] can someone uh donate uh 240 bits so we can order that i know money's tight right now because i like the whole pandemic or anything but yeah mail him some in a letter that would be perfect you literally need one ear plug you can put on four games if you uh why can't i find that shot right now there it is nope that was it yeah it was that way it was all part of the point obviously so actually i guess it doesn't really matter so when you say you got to go back to ebro that makes sense yes i understand you understand it wasn't the madness i didn't want to waste a city you're free from work you can get give a few hundred you know i think he's okay do you like moving into a house soon or something i am usually people that move into houses from apartments usually can afford the two dollars and forty cents it costs to order earplugs i think of okay but you know what i ski do because i i don't know if you guys know this but i didn't uh tmnt didn't come with a tilt bob yeah you would move it around so i would move the tilt pop around it's not that i didn't want to buy a new tilt bob it was just that the thought of buying a tilt bob literally never entered my mind so i skidoo bought me a tilt bob and shipped it to my house he just hit me up one day he's like george what's uh what's your address i'm like i sent him my address and suddenly a tilt bob showed up i'm like that's thinking right like that that makes something like that marco pinball just like sell those yeah no no it wasn't expensive it's the thing it was just kind of the same way ordering things takes like that extra step of like oh this would be nice to i'll do this later kind of thing there's like a disconnect between that and then it's like oh i gotta actually like pay for this as well it's just like that's like the level of like um you know like mobile game companies right the way that they get you to spend a lot of money is that they try and disconnect between you and like putting your credit card in right so like on most mobile games or a lot of those like micro transaction things right once you put in your credit card once you don't have to ever again oh so that's their goal they broke the gap right now all you have to do is tap the button and click accept right that's their that's the end goal right which is you know scummy but it works right i mean capitalism why not don't show your okay think about it you can restart your mode and not start multiball right now i could and you're down over a billion so you really need to bring in an ally for this and uh mode okay okay okay and when you swap you should swap cities because ebro you've already gotten your ally from okay flip once more on the right there you go do the add-a-bell now you're on the green one which is the one you want right now hit the kaiju you got it totally worth it you can shoot the spinner if you're not feeling the left right no no i'm feeling that left ramp right now definitely feeling that right there and then bump over okay i'll flip twice beautiful there you go okay so now you should swap cities i'm gonna swap cities and get that bonus right yeah you just want to be able to start a different mode that you can get you get titanosaurus is good titanosaurus now you bring in your multiball right you have your outer ball already prepped so if everything's going well you can start 2x and you have that other outer ball as well that you will be able to get to okay and all you have to do is not miss this shot okay fine this is an easier shot it is so much easier i got it okay there's no pressure at all don't miss this shot that's all you have to do don't miss it yeah casinos too yeah uh the online concept casinos i think they're the same way it's only one dollar it's only one exactly right you spend the first dollar the second dollar is so make sure you're shooting the flashing blue right stand up this game is hard because you have to balance so many things going on at the same time because it's like oh do i need to get my out of ball do i need to get my mode do i need to play my regular multiball like you got to make some tricky decisions uh where you use there you have you should hit your spinner here to prep your button your button's not blue yet you need the spinner i'll do it for you please do there you go okay now shoot you have your uh 2x ready on the scoop [Applause] yeah there we go we're doing the thing flick it into the scoop it starts 2x oh mail's close i mean that worked out right you should stage flip the right once when you shoot it okay this is funny now if you flick it in nice okay now you're in the money remember you have like so many other balls here it is now worth taking the danger here man all right all right no no no good i'm coaching you yeah i hit your button nice okay you're good yeah do you have non-pinball friends uh yes the majority of my friends are not pinball uh oh my god you have one shot at that spinner you can backhand it ah nearly wow okay you're fine i hit the scoop you're in a level two you should pick the uh bottom one because you can get the most points in it okay so this is king ghidorah and gigan and anguirus even though you don't have anguirus you have rodent oh i have to click it i don't can you can you click that i don't know what happened i don't know what yam ying.com is let's see there you go boxes off boxes yeah so we're going to do a address giving away stream uh exclamation point enter to enter into the route so you need switch hits right now okay that's it yeah exclamation point entered and they get into the raffle to win george's address what is going on so every okay well so you can pick fight or flee you should fight because you haven't built any jackpot so you hit the button and start click this button yes oh you get added time and then now you have to hit switches again so you have to hit every shot except for the center to like build the value nudged out yeah i got really close though to a billion if you multiplied my score yeah if you just said if you played that mode the right way you can get a billion in it okay play one more game let's do it oh it's 11 38 we got we got 20 minutes oh that's one more game that's one more game that's one more game oh my gosh so do you have okay there we go uh invite them to an escape room waffle i did an escape room wafflebury avenue denver colorado 45376 okay [Laughter] oh because i you know stern insider you really don't have to do that it's not even that you clicked it three times is that when you click it once a day once and then the second yeah it adds then player three like i understand the thought process there but you have to understand how drilled this is in our minds yeah it's a hit for two all right keep it going for a couple minutes all right yeah no a lot of my friends are not pinball people i have a lot of pinball people that are friends right um but i mean i just don't expect them to get pinball it's like you come to my house i have games right i have a cool like game room that you can i mean and yet at the end of the day but we used to have like the arcade race card games in our in our place and uh at the end of the day those are always the most popular and the football table which you know it's whatever if you're not really here to think about anything that's uh that's the way to go all right buddy's your day that's where i only pushed it twice yep oh well i guess i'm starting a mode i don't want to play guy again now also go everywhere stick to the plan stick to the plan until you can't stick to the plan anymore most of my non-pin friends are very mad at the arcade when they're over yeah and at the end of the day pinball sucks when you're good or like you don't even have to be good like if you can keep the ball alive longer than the average person it's no fun to play with people because you sit there and you play like even like a medium ball is like five minutes right they have no idea what's going on they can't appreciate what's happening so it's just like oh wow that's cool man you know like so most of the time when i have non-pinball friends like i'll just you know stand and watch where it's like and then or you take him to an em right because in em every ball is short and then you can just kind of boot it up and play so play competitive yeah so i mean that's like the it's not even like a downside it's just like part of the thing pinball is weird you got to be kind of you got to be a specific type of person to get it and a lot of people aren't that person and that's okay most of my non-pin friends are very met my arcade when they're over unless you're playing competitive barnyard on the p3 is that the the barnyard game you're talking about yeah i haven't actually ever played the p3 uh not even at expo no i saw one at expo but there was a line on it and i kind of wanted to play the premium godzilla right and i didn't have that long of a break because it was like right you constantly had that also bummer with expo is that like this year it was it was just it took a while for like things to be open in the main area that was really frustrating because there was one day where things didn't open until was it like six o'clock at night it was like the stern event was at like six or like those four i think but still it's like um when it comes to the actual like random games there it was definitely the weakest of it's ever been because like expo when i'm saying weakest it was still good but like expo used to have like a couple hundred games there of just like people bringing their stuff in but with kovit it was obviously a lot different right right um where there wasn't quite the same selection that there usually was that's a double nice one uh-oh not quite you're pretty close to center oh yeah the extra attorney it's like you guys really couldn't give us any more room like yeah it was that little as that little uh almost like hallway they could have just moved the the walls yeah there was plenty of room there was plenty of extra room but i guess they probably put the tournament walls up first uh before they realized how many yeah locker room vibe a little bit but uh yeah no the tournament area was great once like a lot of the people cleared out on like the second day or like the second finals day because all the people that were out were either like not there or doing other stuff or playing classics or i mean it was a lot nicer but like qualifying day and first day of finals um i stayed in my i was i kind of like was either in the booth or i wasn't there kind of thing right so but the lights were the issue yeah because i had to turn all the lights off and that's fair enough i guess i don't know who knows but next year i they had plenty of criticism and they were kind of going with whatever they could work with so sorry you're saying that that they were criticized on the tournament yeah well it's just because it was really cramped right i think that was the only criticism people had yeah the number of games that people brought i feel like was pretty weak like yeah that's what i'm saying rocky mountain pinball showdown had a better selection of home brought games yeah because the mccarthy's carriage right yeah that's a really good point it's it's like the rocky mountain mccarthy showdown because all their games play that's the other thing is their game split like awesome yeah like they're all perfect everything that you could want in a game um so playing them is a lot of fun but then you can just you know go to blizzard mountain this is player three right you wanna split oh player three that's right yes done so [Music] but uh yeah no i think with expo it was just like a weird timing for everyone um you know i assume next year it'll be very different and i think a lot of people um oh right like they changed the yeah so i think for a lot of people they weren't like super hyped until they saw like pictures of the venue right i'm gonna miss that old uh that old place uh that was my first expo that was yep yeah i feel like we talked about this already yep but uh ramps i can do that there we go okay okay keep going later and later and later and it's just never late enough there it is nicely done yeah the new saw was great uh only issue concrete floors not a huge fan but after pinburg it doesn't doesn't phase me as much as it used to rise in p spin bird there it is oh i'll forget i'll never forget you penberg sorry that's okay i couldn't tell i'm like is that going down the middle i'm moving it it was like close you probably had to like move it a little bit but it's kind of hard with the split flipper yeah so you get to adjust all of your angles it's yeah it's very fun though and yeah so are you going to a tpf no uh because the tournament was already like i didn't have a spot in the tournament got it and it's like i'm gonna save my travels for tournaments yeah nope that makes sense at the end of the day that is the main reason why i play pinball is to compete sure what's around the concrete floors if on feet um well let me tell you about the if they have feet part of your statement jordan because uh they did not have feet and you did a slide save first off they weren't tilty at all and that's great i love non-tilted games because you have the ability to do a lot more but um without feet man every move was like you were end of the world saving you know oh my goodness [Music] i can't see anything kind of like when you're in a car garage and you're just trying to park your car but it sounds like you're you're braking at 80 miles an hour yeah basically that's a good example actually so uh and concrete floors hurt after a while especially if you're standing for three days um oh um yeah that does get a little old as well but i can get past all of that as long as your tournament is good and expo does that uh rubber feet on every surface champion yeah um yeah it does it takes a while to get used to not being on rubber feet i think i'm gonna have to get rubber feet because i'm moving to wood floors that i actually have to care about yeah if you have to care about the wood floors then yes you should rub your feet and it doesn't it's like the same as this like if i was doing this and i didn't look i'd be like this is either like a carpet or feet like if it's carpet then you don't need rubber feet right um [Music] what else am i expo oh okay pinball life has good ones yeah i mean i don't know any brands because i think my dad got like a set for like 60 games back in like the 1900s or whatever but all right so you just started train no that's bridge that's bridge okay i just started on that flipper because my locks were lit as well so the building was up and you got 2x because rodan joined the back yes because i got halfway through this mode and do i have my button oh i do oh i miss nice at a ball come on there we go okay okay some double supers hours nice three shots there that was gorgeous get one more no oh you got a ball stick you're good you're fine 48 no biggie one more i can get a couple four because i keep draining so it's pausing the timer so that's the only time bridge is worth a lot is if you have 2x running and you can button so you get a bunch of time on your super pretty colors as well see i'm so used to um pretty colors in pinball meaning superbands and uh i am not a fan of superbands personally uh they look really nice titans also look nice that is true i don't have much experience on titans ah i almost put titans on here but uh no and just the regulars i mean but the titans are so pretty i i'm i'm literally yeah but you're ruining the game yeah it's not the way that keith designed it to be played all right all right i will not adjust this game yet until i have to replace the rubber and then titans are going on no then you rotate them oh halfway or this would look really good though maybe with some green flipper rubbers man really green that's yeah that's your choice so not just titan but but struggling with the with the cut wait what did i go with hold on i just i just bought them no don't ruin it man your gameplay is great [Music] all of the titan rubbers right here got a whole thing full of um george ruins pinball thanks madu so i got red i got green i got pink purple blue how about the regular black stern ones are there any in there there i have an entire bag of black stern once i've taken off of other games wow uh if you're not doing anything with those i wouldn't have extra for my awesome home playing games just the black stirred rubbers for the red ones they they're kind of the same really all right internet what are your what are your thoughts on titans i'm going to run that's one of my to-do things when i'm not on school because i have a semester off i'm going to run make a program that can flip the ball from an inland the same way almost over and over and over again i'm gonna try with all the different rubbers to prove superbands mess with more than regular ones now granted these by the way are the non-bouncy type building okay so i mean uh i again i don't know times that well okay wind raider loves titans as long as he doesn't take off his belt oh my god my belt popped like middle of the stream it just broke like it's not working that hard my pants are like they're there there's a sizable difference between my pants with the belt activated and where things are it's not putting that much pressure but it just snapped so anyway that's the the background there cnk would rather watch a mediocre pinball player play pinball greener blues a set from sesh would be great flippers i'm gonna see if i like them more than rubbers for tv okay whatever jordan says this is probably a good take because i know he has the same opinion on superbands as me which is something ain't right with superman got it yeah i think i'm right there with you guys on that but titans i think the the uh non the non-bouncy titans are really good yeah so at home on a lot of our games if they're not regular they are um saturn's i've never even heard of zach what are they called i don't remember it's the one that ifpa uses um i don't remember can someone fact check me what are the the ifpa sponsored ones because i i think they're called saturns they're called something planet it might be titans and i'm just losing my mind but i swear to god there's something else uh mj uh r8 peanut i feel like that actually says something that i've never been able to figure out titans are great after about 10 games of breaking in that sounds good and durbin lost the interwebs but is back with us now yeah okay and sash confirmed they are saturn yes okay so a lot of our games still have saturn's because we had our games in ifa 11 like wait wait you guys haven't replaced the rubbers since if you know we don't play that much on our games enough to replace the rubbers could we just rotate them the first time or then clean them oh because i feel like i'm doing way too much on my games because i replace the rubbers every six months regardless of plays yeah a lot of the times they're probably fine man man can i hit the building consistently that's like my major issue tonight is doing that over and over and over and over again i do want to throw it on the pro it doesn't have the two bars because it doesn't go up and down oh no it doesn't have something but it's not it's definitely tighter on this than it is on the pro but there's still something for it to not be clean on yep okay so i have i have my button prepped so i'm gonna play this one this one's really good with your button is it is the one where you can get you can get yeah you can get a billion it's just not realistic i'll be honest well earlier you made it sound like i could have gotten a billion but now it's unrealistic i mean i'm not saying you couldn't get a billion on it but you definitely couldn't get a billion on if you don't know what you're doing right okay which is so i've had enough switches so all the shots are yellow except for the center which is red the red is my collect yellow builds oh that makes so much more sense it adds 2.5 million but then it says the multiplier at the top so every shot adds a multiplier and then adds a little bit of value so the idea is you hit all the yellow shots like i did so now the reds available oh i wasn't double ah i didn't need to do that so enjoying godzilla so far very much so i think so my first owner south park has all original rubbers yeah because that game has a lot of posts so i see you cleaning the sides because i'm like a sweaty person okay but is that that number three so number one was if you that's like an escher left off etiquette okay jason wardrick complained about it once and then it's become now you just do it he was like he has uh the uh the coined escher left off paper towel in the pocket maneuver which is when he is playing me he will get some paper towels or a rag or something so he will wipe it down thoroughly after i play but yeah i don't know i think i do have a sweating something because uh it's a little it's a little outrageous sometimes it's not like armpit though it's like just my hands okay so titanosaur is witch shots the stand ups the blues the blues oh my god why did i choose that that's it's five shots and those shots really aren't that dangerous if you hit them from here okay i like that i like that [Music] yep yes yeah that was amazing that's the main thing that i struggled with when i was playing in australia on their tournaments is all their games had super bands all had what super bands oh it takes a while to get used to them because they play very different like you can live catch everything every in lane if it's fast enough you just hold the flipper up and it'll stop and a lot of the times it'll dead bounce and it will either go into the sling or it won't bounce at all [Laughter] okay that that doesn't help me with it just don't miss the living arcade rating us with eight people thank you so much you missed man i know okay you're getting a shot at it i missed it again yeah thank you here here should scoop here i don't actually figure my locks lit or our lock slit i like this i like this and if it's on mine i'm going to lock a ball if it's on yours you should shoot the scoop you like move the game and i wasn't on the flipper button anymore it oh yeah literally lift your hand just don't move thank you thank you yeah just don't miss george okay don't shoot the center until you hit the scoop okay i'm gonna hit the scoop off the plunge i got this right here all right nope i hit an a shot i'm feeling really really happy with myself here [Music] okay so now trap up uh which one are we going with titanosaur yeah instead with the multiball that makes sense all right try and just drop catch with the ramp totally worked okay that works out so obviously the intention there it's all part of the plan yeah yeah absolutely okay so hit all of the stand-ups to complete that i will worry about the stand-ups okay you shoot the spinner twice the center spinner twice center spinner twice i will i'll worry about the center button as well george it's a lock and we'll never miss again nope okay it's trying i'm trying no i didn't really wow we had our out of all witch very quickly yeah he's trying to hit the uh the regular center spinner trying it's kind of hard that there's many balls in play got it yeah [Applause] you're gonna hit the spinner trying to get a good spinner rip in because we have that super spinner with 2x i might just do it here okay there's a tablet i mean that's what i meant to do is to hit that ball okay so not to put pressure on you but this destruction jackpot if we can get it in the next couple seconds okay it it's pretty big shot it'll be like yeah 40 million okay here trying to stage it intentionally see if that helps okay [Music] that did not help oh if he did bounce that we all could have gotten there that's okay our bridge is ready and i don't think okay yeah we can't get a battle i'm gonna hit the spinner to get to you don't shoot the right ramp to though all right so what am i hitting here instead of kaiju scoop no we're not there we go and we're going to hit this right yep there oh that's my bad no that was fine i missed it well you missed but i could have saved it i didn't expect for it to come back yeah no no i'm totally usually you won't miss it more than twice usually you get that scoop down okay where am i at i have locks i just play i tilt it in my level two that's where i am okay so monster monitor all four lights are flashing because you've done all of those companies um which doesn't actually do anything i think eventually it'll be a super mode right thinking along the lines of um i assume that'll be like monster zero or something got it oh [Applause] i hit the shot but the building was down so it comes back yeah did it didn't oh wow that fell out just then yeah i was surprised yes train i feel like the building doesn't know where it's supposed to be right now yeah or maybe it's doing an animation or something this is my favorite mode in the game right now super train you remember this mode uh i have not been to this mode what the last time i was here so how do you get to super train oh you collect trains when they're lit i don't know when trains are late but they're left on the left orbit or the left ramp start sorry and how do you collect trains i feel like you're going to shoot the train i don't know how you light them i think it's like i don't know they're lit sometimes this mode is probably the most worth mode in the game right now um not if i do that one more nah oh is it it just builds it yeah and then you collect no there's no collect you just shoot the right ramp as many times as you can in a row and if you never miss it's like because that's the easiest shot in the game for i would say most people like you can lose it but once you hit it once hitting it twice is a little easier you know right yeah it's like once you once you find it once and you get into that nice little loop there yeah so how far are you from oh keystone sir starf that's like two and a half hours without much traffic what from uh keystone like keystone and breckenridge oh yeah that was a really bad time to miss all right i got my extra that's all i wanted from that uh if you miss have a heat ray ready to use um that would probably work the only problem is that sometimes the timer is like it sits at zero so you would have to time it like perfectly yeah carl did it oh no i was but you have an extra ball i do i look to my left to read chat and i didn't bump correctly i would say that is an awesome idea that uh that carl came up with it or in like did it on the fly is not surprising to me at all that is a very carl thing to do was that ultraman that ultraman make a noise i can't tell if that was ultraman who just jumped into the bat does anyone know who that character was yeah no there's a character that looks a hell of a lot like ultraman i don't know it's ultraman from touhou i mean you know i know nothing about uh i i know nothing about all of this i think he has a different name because in the he's in one of the battles he's in the multiball team-up battle it's something else jaguar okay yeah it was ultra dude okay they look very similar though ultraman and ultra dude yeah well ultra doctor dude nice i like that i don't like dr dude that game i'm good at that game yet i still seem to lose on it every time right like you don't have bad games but it's just like i got 15 million against dino that should have made me the state representative for colorado but no he got two jackpots and now i'm down 20 million or whatever i was and i'm not good enough at that game to catch that man right i will hit the red shot and drain eventually like the the stand up heart thing right so what's you isn't there two doctor dudes does doctor do no no there's just it's a party what's it called the elvira party monsters no there's uh why is his name someone yeah party zone party sound got it you know party zone i don't know party zone it is it's a great game there's some there's some major flaws in the game um like how that if you can bump over from the left ramp and shoot the left ramp again um the game starts really bad because it turns into elvira or scared stiff or you just want to shoot the same shot [Applause] oh man that was mean yeah i needed to hold my button earlier it's okay what am i doing right now like i have no idea where i am in the game i mean this is gonna be worth a lot but it's because it's 3x yeah party zone's a good game there's some cool things in it there's like a 10x play field but i think it's 10x there's a 5x there's like a big x in the game that you can use in a fun way so right now this looks like it's for roughly about 40 million there we go get my second level two so and and how do you light allies again i suppose halfway through abode okay so the more you progress the more allies you light into i mean it's pretty close it's the same color and they look kind of the same but they're definitely different more than anything it's like a humanoid shape in a yeah like you world like a robot and the color scheme is identical so i i actually thought that too that looked like ultraman so i don't know anything about ultraman i don't know anything about godzilla lore i can't even tell if he's the good guy or the bad guy in this like he is like destroying everything yeah he's also defending against the planet x i think right yeah i i don't i don't know if godzilla is a good guy or a bad guy either i guess you know if we're not concerned at all about like destruction and the the death of people and the amount of damage he's doing he's probably a good guy that's a lot of asteroids though right yeah i mean we have to suspend a whole bunch of like monetary and life-based uh disbelief stuff he's chaotic neutral says fliptronic okay wow that was 24 right there really nice this is the multiball i got that 600 million in that other again my super lit i don't think it gets any bigger it wasn't less than 24. that was 24 to 28 so yeah i guess the next one might be 32. oh i'm surprised that came back to me what color is my button green is it green red white now it's flashing all of the colors i was just seeing if my button was ready or not [Music] i might as well just use it now all right it's like uh godzilli is the jeff theolas of god of the godzilla universe it's like two bad guys fighting over who gets dibs i think you are godzilla in this game is uh are i think you are because you like choose what city to destroy next and you are defeating you know whatever where am i fun fact godzilla's skin is gray to represent the ashy skin of uh hiroshima atomic bomb survivors as jedi go huh wow i did not know that it's a little dark i thought he was a big lizard radioactive lizard [Applause] oh oh we're good maybe we're not good maybe maybe we're good i don't know anymore i'm getting tired i got a final tomorrow i'm gonna write a speech but i don't know what it's about yet you have to write a speech but you have no way i get 14 minutes to write a speech it's my public speaking class oh wait you have to write the speech live in class so it's not like you have to write it tonight oh no i don't have to write it tonight um do you have any idea what it might be about well considering there's like 30 people in my class and we aren't allowed to use our computers it has to be something very broad because [Music] um if we're not a lot of research that like really limits what we can talk about right or not and the goal is to make you uncomfortable yeah but i can't just you know it's like okay you have to talk about blank i'm like i'm not gonna make a bunch of stuff up like that's not good public speaking i have a really good feeling it's gonna be like the surprise you can talk about anything you want right okay that's what i'm thinking so if you could talk about anything you want what are you gonna talk about man if only there's one thing i was good at that i could talk about i yeah it's slipping my mind right now i'm not getting that back oh i did nice good timing on that lunch poorly um yeah but it could be like godzilla's what's your favorite place to get lunch and tell me about an experience over there right and then we get 12 minutes to write it and then we got it presented [Applause] okay i mean pinball is easy though right like i guess you just need an a i already have an a in the class and if i got a zero i'd still pass the class so i'm pretty you're doing pretty good fliptronic wants you to talk about are hot dogs just tacos you could talk about that that was a decent talking point but then there's a like taco bell turn it into like an advertising campaign and then it becomes like weird you know well i guess there could does that take pirates versus ninjas out is that was that an advertisement no no it wasn't it's just it was a real popular discussion for like a week and a half in the late 90s oh yeah if you had to choose between being a pirate or a ninja which would you be that's of incredibly easy decision because being a pirate would not be fun it wasn't would not be what would not be fun it depends what kind of pirate i don't know man these pirates the idea of being a pirate is that you're expendable that like you could die of some of the worst diseases and just your captain will just be like okay good thing we have another 20 you know 200 men with swords that are getting paid minimum amount like that sucks if you're the captain then like maybe but then but that really does like are we talking about uh you're going with a literal pirate from you know the uh like an actual pirate from from our history but what if we're talking about pirates from uh peter pan or pirates from uh obviously pirates of the caribbean uh no i still don't think being a ninja would be better okay okay you get to kind of do your own thing ninjas do not get guns that's a really good point yeah but by the way thank you the stitch a week and a half my butt that is still argued i agree i i i absolutely love that argument freedom says taylor yeah i was like well if i'm a ninja in america then i don't have to worry about the gun thing because i'm oh i didn't move the game back it's okay i got you did i do i didn't think i did a slide save there's no talk like a ninja day yeah there is no talk like a ninja day because ninjas don't talk they're very quiet you try to show the history that juan like the chinese lady who started such a successful part of the empire they were surprised her so much that she retired to a pirate island yeah but then you have to remember how many pirates were not her like you know to be the best pirate means that there's other pirates that aren't the best and but even then like if we're talking you need to be a captain of a pirate ship then like yeah maybe it's a little better but like [Music] we're gonna get this [Applause] all the richest parts pretty much ended with their desks yeah there's like three pirates that ever like got out you know um and i think that's uh i think that's pretty telling that's a good point that's a good point that's the real the uh jack gets out every time yeah but he was like nearly executed like six or seven times right like and there's always some nearly i think it's the important part nearly and it wasn't because he was a good pirate because he had no like this lack of attention that yeah hung by the neck i think yeah i swear this was a scene in that movie i haven't thought about pirates of the caribbean in a very long time caribbean caribbean whatever same thing yesterday same thing same thing yeah i haven't thought about that in a long time but again i don't really know if i want to be a pirate but being a ninja is fine retiring from the ninja life is probably easier than retiring from the pirate life i would say being a ninja is probably financially better than being a yeah when you retire as a ninja you can like go to people's birthday parties so ninjas were gardeners for uh for warlords back in the day you know if i had a choice between being up being a pirate and a gardener i think i'd pick to be a gardener [Music] i i can't i can't agree with you on any of that there's there's way too much fun to be had i i'm again i'm talking about realistic pirates here being a pirate sounds like one of the most miserable experiences for me i you're you're probably not wrong yeah i guess diphtheria like all kinds of diseases really bad healthcare well living and also they didn't get paid all that much and they're also like criminals right not that they could really be identified that if you like retired from you did monster again by the way um well if it was in space see that's a whole different thing you didn't know which shots it hit but the game hit the shot for you so that's what matters that's totally what matters a fresh air travel there you go so but fresh fresh air and travel have you ever been on like one of these Antonio Cruz ships before like i haven't i've been on like whaling experiences but like you see water and you're outside like the the cool thing about travel for me is that i'm like somewhere unique right if i'm in the pacific ocean or if i'm in the atlantic ocean i wouldn't be able to tell you know what's the multiball oh the middle one the one you're on the one i'm on i'm doing that i just want a multiball at this point yeah that i'm calling sorry what's going on man turn around he's gonna compare that's him he's like fat ultraman yeah he's ultra dude yeah ultra dude's a good name for him no i'm i'm unbudged on this i don't want to be a pirate okay guaranteed so oh my god just hit the flashing yellow light why can't i hit that hey mothra you got 500 000 for that too that's like better than 2x it's hard to get anything worth 500 000 you know oh i see it godzilla versus ninja pirates some good uh ninja pins there's one ninja pin maybe oh my gosh just get there this is one thing your music selection is different every time i'm here well i try to switch it up you have like everything i i like everything but country and i have made my way into rap recently otherwise i would have said rap all right yeah ceos are usually the two there's nothing i'm not a huge fan of country but it's not like i've kind of like gone to that point because i had to play rhythm games for so long but i didn't get really a choice a lot of the music i had to listen to right and uh so i'll i wouldn't say like it got worse but it definitely changed [Music] all right it's not coming back is it rattled if it didn't rattle we would have gotten it back yeah but yeah this music sounds like uh what's that album called mgm or the mgmt it is uh so this is the midnight but yeah it definitely has that kind of that sound to it yeah i really like uh what's that uh what's that album called by then uh kids mgmt it's a more recent one i'm trying to think of i have one of their records over there i like a lot of their music it's definitely on my recent searches i have it down there i haven't know i have it downloaded little dark age that's what i'm looking for oh wait do you have it up like what's the do i need to go check out mgmt's new album i don't think it's that new isn't it the one that has kids on it no okay it's because that's that was in 2007. this one yeah that's one of the two guys on the cover okay yeah so the yellow one is the one i know a little dark age it's a decent album i gotta go figure that out all right you guys thank you so much for hanging out thank you escher for hanging out no worries it's always fun playing and uh we checked it out earlier your usher actually because uh discord crashed and i didn't have the ability to close your window i closed it but uh we posted escher's discord early you can check them out there also your twitter which i think is also yeah uh it's stevo pub twitter.com steve davo like from jackass and then pub like p-u-b and that's it cool check me out there i tweet everything so it's not just pinball related lots of different stuff um so definitely give escher a follow on uh on twitter you can find him on twitch even though you're not don't hold your breath on any streams in the next couple months uh maybe when i'm back home i might play some godzilla okay i have all my stuff there now but otherwise i don't hold your breath for streams okay and uh guys we will be back on tomorrow night uh game tbd if if i can get um if i can get paul back over here to finish installing the ramp lights i think maybe we'll start prepping on tron because we have to battle pez at some point in the near future here uh and then um that's it i think that's oh really quick what's coming up on tpn i think we've got the 12 days of uh christmas from who is it hold up nope discord over here tpn event announcements we've got the third annual 12 strikes of christmas tournament with the pinballers so check them out almost fell out once again and uh fox cities has a bunch of events coming up uh the closest one is the double tournament launch party which looks like it's the godzilla launch party tournament which will be on uh Fox Cities Pinball and that's on december 11th and then they also have a new year's eve uh new year's eve four-strike knockout tournament that he'll be streaming as well and once again that's on fox cities so you guys have a great night check out tpn check out usher and uh we'll see you back around uh tomorrow night thanks again we'll find someone to raid [Music] [Applause] have you been inundated with ads and questions related to tpn's now famous homemade pinball pudding line of puddings questions like tpn's pinball pudding is so good it must be illegal right what the [ __ ] is pinball pudding how can a collection of content creators also be a pudding that makes no sense and we hear you you want to know what makes tpn so special the answer is in tpn's secret ingredient simply proof 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