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Let's Talk Potter Playfield

Kaneda Pinball Podcasts YouTube Lives·video·1h 16m·analyzed·Jun 4, 2025
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TL;DR

Kaneda analyzes Harry Potter playfield design, predicting fast gameplay and praising JJP's design direction.

Summary

Kaneda discusses his analysis of the Harry Potter pinball playfield based on promotional imagery, examining layout, mechanics, artwork, and design philosophy. He praises the game's design direction under Steve Ritchie's influence at Jersey Jack, predicting fast-paced gameplay with excellent shot flow. He also critiques past Jersey Jack games and defends his decision not to leak the image early, emphasizing respect for the design team.

Key Claims

  • Harry Potter has four flippers: two at the bottom, upper right flipper positioned like Elton John's, and small flipper in upper left for upper playfield

    high confidence · Kaneda analyzing promotional playfield image in detail

  • The game features a rotating staircase mechanism that functions as a ramp or diverter, allowing the ball to go over or under it

    medium confidence · Kaneda speculating based on visual analysis of image: 'I think the staircase flips around... I think it becomes like either like a ramp or a diverter'

  • Jersey Jack licensed all John Williams theme music for Harry Potter, not inspired-by versions

    high confidence · Kaneda stating: 'They licensed John Williams theme song? They have all the John Williams music for Harry Potter. All of it.'

  • The Collector's Edition topper is the Hogwarts castle

    high confidence · Kaneda confirming: 'the Hogwarts castle is the CE topper. So, for all of you wondering what this CE topper is going to be, it's the Hogwarts castle.'

  • Harry Potter uses a strong plunge (not soft plunge like Guns N' Roses), firing the ball halfway or all the way up the playfield

    medium confidence · Kaneda analyzing: 'this game is not a soft plunge... You plunge the ball and it fires halfway up the playfield all the way'

  • Steve Ritchie has had a significant design impact at Jersey Jack, influencing Harry Potter's fast, wide-open layout

    high confidence · Kaneda: 'I think Steve Ritchie has had a real impact since being over at Jersey Jack... this looks like a fast wide open game'

  • Stern is raising prices by $500 across the board, making the Stern LE with topper more expensive than Harry Potter CE

    medium confidence · Kaneda stating: 'Stern's about to raise their prices by $500 across the board... a Stern LE with a $2,000 topper now will actually be more expensive than Harry Potter CE'

  • The arcade edition of Harry Potter is losing only cosmetic features (shaker motor, rad cabs, glass translite, inner art blades, possibly one hot rail), not mechanical elements

Notable Quotes

  • “I don't want to buy Transformers without Optimus Prime. I don't want to buy Harry Potter without Harry. I don't want to buy Batman without Batman.”

    Kaneda @ early in stream — Establishes personal collecting philosophy regarding IP completeness; context for Predator game criticism

  • “I think this is going to be Jersey Jack's like response to all the criticisms of the floatiness and the emptiness.”

    Kaneda @ mid-stream — Key assessment that Harry Potter addresses JJP's historical design weaknesses

  • “It feels like Avatar and like Elton had a baby a little bit.”

    Kaneda @ mid-stream — Design comparison summarizing playfield aesthetic approach

  • “I think this game is going to make up for so many past mistakes at JJP.”

    Kaneda @ mid-stream — Strong endorsement of Harry Potter as corrective to JJP's previous games

  • “I think what's going to happen is this game kind of has that potential that if you're a Harry Potter fan, you'll never get tired of it.”

    Kaneda @ late-stream — Predicts Harry Potter has staying power unlike Guns N' Roses, positioning it as collectible that transcends resale value concerns

  • “Put it next to a Jersey Jack. It's not even close... It's more fun... It's had better flow.”

    Kaneda (referencing JJP vs Stern comparison) @ mid-stream — Direct criticism of Stern's value proposition compared to JJP premium pricing

  • “I think Stern has gaslighting a lot of this community. They have they they've been gaslighting you now that you're spending $15,000 on a fully optioned Stern.”

    Kaneda @ mid-stream — Strong criticism of Stern pricing strategy and value proposition

  • “Guns N' Roses suffers from erectile dysfunction when you when you plunge. It's terrible.”

    Kaneda @ mid-stream — Colorful criticism of Guns N' Roses soft plunge mechanic; contrasts with Harry Potter's strong plunge design

Entities

Harry PottergameKanedapersonCarrie HardypersonJersey Jack PinballcompanySteve RitchiepersonEric MinorpersonStern Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Kaneda reports receiving criticism and subscriber cancellations for refusing to leak Harry Potter playfield image early, revealing internal community tension between revelation-hunger and content creator ethics

    medium · Kaneda: 'I had a couple losers who unsubscribe from my podcast because I refused to leak the image and spoil Eric's reveal... It's just being a decent person'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Strong shift in pinball community sentiment favoring Jersey Jack over Stern due to perceived superior value, gameplay, and design quality at comparable premium pricing

    high · Kaneda: 'Put it next to a Jersey Jack. It's not even close... Stern has gaslighting a lot of this community... you guys threw money at a company that doesn't deliver a high-end product'

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball content creators demonstrating restraint in leaking/spoiling Harry Potter reveal out of respect for design team's official reveal timing, contrasting with alleged lack of restraint for Stern games

    high · Kaneda: 'I don't think it's leaked... everybody just feels we're so close... If this was like a Stern game, we would have leaked it instantly... I had Guns N' Roses in my phone for over a year and I never leaked it'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Kaneda notes tournament players primarily defend Stern due to location play preferences rather than representing collector/new-in-box audiences; different player segments have conflicting interests regarding game design priorities

    medium · Kaneda: 'think about who defends Stern to no end, it's these tournament players who I get it, they love the game play... They're not really the new in box audience... They're not the dudes losing, you know, three to $7,000 now on new in box pinball'

Transcript

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screen. That's better. Harry Potter. Sorry, I'm a little late, gang. The
0:26
um one-year-old baby fever. just haven't slept in a day and a half. So, bear with me everybody as we get our bearings straight here. Um, let's do this. Let's
0:46
share let's share this to Facebook. Get everybody going. Figure out how we're going to do this.
1:02
Um, live talk of Powder Playfield. Yeah, lots of thoughts. Lots of
1:19
thoughts. All right. How's everybody doing tonight? Well, it was quick. 42 people popped in right away. Um, let's get some more lighting in here. It's kind of grainy. Hold
1:50

high confidence · Kaneda: 'Everything that it's losing is cosmetic. It's not losing anything mechanical.'

  • The CE artwork was created by the famous Harry Potter book illustrator to appeal to book fans, while Arcade/Wizard editions use movie visuals for movie fans

    medium confidence · Kaneda explaining strategic artwork approach: 'They made the movie visuals of Harry Potter the arcade and wizard edition... they then go get the book illustrator who's famous in the Harry Potter fan base to make the CE'

  • Jersey Jack sent cease and desist to the homebrew Harry Potter game

    high confidence · Kaneda: 'I can tell you now why Jersey Jack sent a cease and desist to that homebrew Harry Potter game though, gang'

  • “The reason Guns N' Roses sucks gameplaywise is the outlane drains are terrible. It is probably one of the most brutal on both outlanes, brutal outlane drain games I've ever played.”

    Kaneda @ late-stream — Detailed critique of Guns N' Roses gameplay frustrations that Harry Potter apparently avoids

  • “I think this is going to be one of those magical games where like you just buy it and you don't even care about resale.”

    Kaneda @ late-stream — Predicts Harry Potter breaks the secondary-market-driven collector mentality in pinball

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    design_philosophy: Harry Potter layout represents Jersey Jack's deliberate response to past criticism of 'floatiness and emptiness' - emphasizing speed, flow, and upper playfield action rather than trap-and-go or brick-fest gameplay

    high · Kaneda: 'I think this game is built for speed... I think this is going to be Jersey Jack's like response to all the criticisms of the floatiness and the emptiness... I think balls are going to fly up the left side and come whizzing around the right.'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Jersey Jack successfully licensed comprehensive John Williams music catalog for Harry Potter (all original theme compositions, not inspired-by versions), indicating significant licensing investment and exclusive content advantage

    high · Kaneda: 'They licensed John Williams theme song? They have all the John Williams music for Harry Potter. All of it. So, you're not going to get like some inspired by a track. You're getting the John Williams one'

  • $

    market_signal: Harry Potter projected to achieve massive commercial success as JJP's biggest seller and highest-grossing IP in pinball history; establishing new market baseline for premium game expectations

    medium · Kaneda: 'I think this game is going to be a humongous hit for them... I think this will be the best shooting JJP game... I think this game is going to sell so well'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Steve Ritchie's influence at Jersey Jack is visible in Harry Potter's fast, wide-open layout design philosophy, indicating his design principles are shaping current JJP direction

    high · Kaneda: 'I think Steve Ritchie has had a real impact since being over at Jersey Jack... this looks like a fast wide open... everything is happening towards the second upper half of the game'

  • $

    market_signal: Stern raising prices $500 across board while Harry Potter CE positioned as comparable or better value; market signaling shift away from Stern's premium positioning

    high · Kaneda: 'Stern's about to raise their prices by $500 across the board... a Stern LE with a $2,000 topper now will actually be more expensive than Harry Potter CE'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack employing strategic multi-edition artwork strategy: movie visuals for Arcade/Wizard (appealing to casual moviegoers), book-illustrator artwork for CE (appealing to book fans), same game mechanics across all editions

    high · Kaneda: 'They made the movie visuals of Harry Potter the arcade and wizard edition... they then go get the book illustrator who's famous in the Harry Potter fan base to make the CE... it's the same game, the LE as the wizard as the CE'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Harry Potter features ball-path air-gap mechanics where ball travels through air between wire forms, creating dynamic flight gameplay; represents mechanical innovation in layout design

    medium · Kaneda: 'the wire forms up the in the middle of the game. They just end at a certain point... I think the ball's going to fly from one wire form to another with a gap... I think you're going to see the ball traveling through the air'

  • ?

    product_concern: Guns N' Roses exemplifies Jersey Jack's historical design flaws: brutal outlane drains, soft plunge, one-dimensional gameplay despite spectacular visual/audio presentation; Harry Potter appears to address these specific mechanical failures

    high · Kaneda: 'the outlane drains are terrible... brutal outlane drain games I've ever played... it's such a one-dimensional game... the reason Guns N' Roses sucks gameplaywise is the outlane drains'

    • right. All right. in on a CE. What's up? Who we got here? Getting CE. Looks like there's no Arnold in Predator. Are you still getting it? No. I said from the get-go, if Arnold's not in Predator, not buying the game. It's that simple. I don't want to buy Transformers without Optimus Prime. I don't want to buy Harry Potter without Harry. I don't want to buy Batman without Batman. Predator is a movie about Arnold, about Dutch, the strongest man on the planet who meets his match in a freaking alien. How you going to make that game without Arnold? Because then you're not going to have any of the scenes with Arnold and Carl and Arnold and Jesse. It's just going to be maybe some of the side characters talking without Arnold, which is a horrible movie. Yeah, I heard what they're going to do is they're going to see if they can make enough money to go license Arnold. Good luck. Seven figure deal there. Um, not
    3:07
    happening. Um, all right. So, I've got a baby monitor here and I've got a cell phone here with Harry Potter Playfield. Let me tell you right now, I want to talk about the fact that every single pinball content creator on the planet right now has images. The same image, uh, obviously this image came from Jersey Jack. And I will say this, I don't think it's leaked. I think everybody has been good at du, you know, not spoiling Eric and his team's reveal. I I I think there's like a level of respect there. Like if this was like a Stern game, we would have leaked it instantly. There would have been no respect for Stern on this on this notion, you know, of like holding back. Um, but I think this time around everybody just feels we're so close that you might as well see it proper. Um, and you know, I'm hearing everybody's sort of uh questions. So, I want that's what I want to do is I want to just kind of answer some of your questions about it. I want to tell you my thoughts on it. I can definitely see the artwork. Um, I'm I'm doing my best to sort of Can you see the reflection of it like in my
    4:40
    glasses? Like this could be the fiest ever first ever like someone's trying to zoom in on the reflection of glasses. Um, it's it's definitely
    4:53
    um going to be a fast game. When I saw the playfield and I looked at the layout, I think Steve Richie has had a real impact since being over at Jersey Jack. And I think that was the first thing I noticed when I looked at the game. I was like, "Wow, this looks like a fast wide open not it's not empty, but everything is happening towards the second upper half of the game, right?" you know, Allah, Elton, John like like there's there's no real, you know, there's u looks like there might be some drop targets here or something, but there's no real like a lot of stuff slowing the ball down um happening in the lower half of the game, upper or lower playfields. There is no lower playfield there. There are what looks to be
    5:55
    uh Uh, like there's definitely Okay, so there's definitely an upper left playfield and I think there's an upper right. I think the whole like I think there's like just a whole I'm trying to like look at where these wire forms connect to. You got the flying car. Okay, so there's I you know the thing is the shot everybody has is a top down shot. So, it's hard for me to get um sort of like a depth perception on everything happening. I want to I want to read your question. Four flippers. How many flippers? Okay, so there's two at the bottom. There's um let's see. Hold on. It's a four flipper game, I believe. Unless there's a flipper hitting. So, there's there's there's two at the bottom. There's a upper right flipper that is like exactly where the Elton John upper right flipper is. And then there is a small flipper uh in the upper left for the upper playfield that looks like it
    7:08
    has it. It's crazy because above above the upper left flipper on the upper playfield is a wire form over the flipper. And that wire form looks like it does like a whole orbit around. I think what's gonna happen there? I think that might be where you go to play Quidditch. And I think that might be a sculpt of Hogwarts. I think what's going to happen is I think you're going to go up there and you're going to go around. It looks like it may be like a 6 in circle around the upper left playfield. So, I think you might get in there and I think there might be some sort of like Richie like magnetic like like velocity thing happening up there that's going to fire that ball around the wire form that sits above uh the upper left
    8:07
    flipper. busy art and the playfield seamless. Okay, people keep asking if there's a Hogwarts sculpt and again because I can't I don't I think may I don't think it's a sculpt. Um is that I don't know. So, in in the CE of the game, in the CE of the game, the Hogwarts castle is the CE topper. So, for all of you wondering what this CE topper is going to be, it's the Hogwarts castle.
    8:57
    Okay, I I want to just answer your questions because I'm not showing you the picture, but I will answer questions about
    9:09
    it. I did not talk about the staircase. I'm eating popcorn, by the way. Okay. So, the
    9:21
    staircase is the the furthest is the left ramp which sits about just about like it looks like just about an inch from the hot rail. There's um and then there's the staircase. Now what it looks like happens is the staircase. Now think about a ramp. I think the staircase flips around. So I think it it it it turns around. So I think it becomes like either like a ramp or a diverter. So I think you might either go over or under it. I don't know. I think that's what it looks like it does. I can't see overhead picture. No movement.
    10:11
    So, what's up everybody? Is there a So, so I can tell you now why Jersey Jack sent a cease and desist to that homebrew Harry Potter game though, gang. Like look, when people say like this is packed, it it definitely looks like there's a lot going on in this game, but it doesn't have, just looking at it, the OMG that that homebrew does with that super deep position of the playfield and that crazy Hogwarts and, you know, the magnetic battle between Voldemort and Harry going across across the playfield like it doesn't have any anything like dramatic like that. And look, I and and as I look at it now, I think that's the one thing. There's some big I I you know, there's the flying car. Looks like there's like a woman flying through the air. I think there's going to be a lot of similar small cake topper matchbox carl like things uh attached by wires in this game that is like modern JJP. Uh I I don't you know it it it fits the theme. It just you know I don't think we're going to see I don't see any like elaborate sculpts. I don't see like a a a really detailed
    12:10
    sculpt. You know, Carrie, when I looked at this game, and Carrie, I know you've seen it. Um, it feels like Avatar and like Elton had a baby a little bit. Um, and Guns and Roses drumsticks on this side. It just feels like, you know, a lot of the actions at the top. Um, I I would say like, again, I think this game is built for speed. I I keep looking at it and I think it's just going to be fast. I think I think this is going to be Jersey Jack's like response to all the criticisms of the floatiness and the emptiness. I think this is going to have a lot in it, but I think it's going to have a lot of speed. I don't think it's going to be some boring trap and go game. I don't think it's going to be a brick fest like Guns and Roses. I think balls are going to fly up the left side and come whizzing around the right. And I think balls are going to fly up the right side and whiz the around to the left. And I think you're going to see flow. I think you're going to see combos. I think you're going to see um the best uh probably Jersey Jack game to date. And and again, just looking at it, it just seems a lot more interesting than anything else I've seen from them in in a while, right? In a while. Now, is it Pirates packed? No. And I can tell you right now, it's not Pirates Packed. It actually borderline looks a little cluttered what I'm looking at. And I think that is an area of like, you know, eight movies onto one playfield, lots to try to do. Um, I'm really also kind of curious to the lack of lack of lights in the game. Now, I don't think that's going to mean there's like it's not going to be lit up beautifully because Elton John is, but there's not nearly as many of those tiny little LEDs that we saw in other games. And the artwork I want to read you I want to read your I want to follow what you guys are saying as I as I talk
    14:26
    too. Yeah. So, there's right where the Guns and Roses drumsticks are, there's three magic wands. I I bet it's Harry's. Was it Hermione? Harmoni. Harmoni. What are the three kids? The main kids? Hermany. And um you can tell how much of a fan I am.
    14:49
    And is it Ralph Weasley? Weasel Ron. Yeah, Ron. So, okay. So, it's it's a cauldron. There's a black cauldron that is in front of the three magic wands. And it looks like the wands have LEDs on the tips of them, you So, you're going to get like some, you know, casting spell sort of action going
    15:36
    on. But it it looks like a black cauldron. Now, what I think is going to happen is this Carrie. I It looks like the ball could there might be a magnet in that cauldron. And I think that cauldron and I could be making this up. I think I think the ball might get
    16:01
    um might get locked there and you knock it off by hitting another ball over the magic wands because the magic wands are a pathway. I could be totally wrong. It could just be a sculpt, but that's what it might look
    16:19
    like. I'm so shocked, Carrie. I'm shocked that no one leaked this damn thing. You know, like everybody I talked to in the content space has
    16:39
    Oh, so you're saying it's not it's not big enough for a ball the opening for it to go inside the cauldron and out. Yeah, there's an upper left
    16:51
    playfield. Now, when Jack said there's three levels of play, I don't think there's an upper right playfield. I think the ball just goes up there a lot, but I don't think you're like actually shooting a flipper in the upper right
    17:09
    anywhere. Can you press the microphone against your throat as you chew, John? Welcome to the party, John. Okay, so here's my here's my thing. The
    17:35
    colorful. Every once in a while, this house like settles and it just is like is is the whole thing coming down? Uh there's there's four flippers. Okay, the chewing is gross. Well, sorry guys, I'm hungry. And so, you know, I have a baby with 102.7 fever. I didn't sleep at all last night. I his fever broke in the morning. Daycare called me to come get him at like 11. I've been at the doctor's. I've been soothing a little one-year-old all day long while trying to work while while Brenda's in LA while trying to talk about pinball. So, if my chewing annoys you, I'm sorry. I also had a couple losers who unsubscribe from my podcast because I refused to leak the image and spoil Eric's reveal. I don't care. I you know what? I don't care about three losers who want to take their $15 and go home. It's just like calling. It's just being a decent person. You know, I had Guns and Roses in my phone for over a year and I never leaked it to anybody. And you know, I just again I just think that out of respect for the team that worked on it, let's let them have their moment right now. Now, talking about it like this, I think this is fun because it just piqus your imagination and your curiosity. It's not spoiling anything. It It really is like no matter what I say, you literally have no real idea of like what what I'm looking at. Let me count the shots. Let's do this. This is like a Carrie Hardy move. like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Looks like maybe
    19:44
    nine. There's something there's something happening over by the right shooter lane, you know, Carrie, where the ball comes out. I'm happy to report I should have started with this. I should have started with this. I'm happy to report that this game is not a soft plunge. It's not a soft plunge. You You plunge the ball and it fires halfway up the playfield all the way. I think it's going to fire all the way across and go up and loop around. I think you're going to have like kind of like an X-Men sort of entrance into this game. I think Eric, the soft plunge in G&R is the dumbest decision ever. I hate it every time it happens. I hate it every time the ball trickles down and and goes past that gate because half the times it fails. It's like the like you know where you are limp penis like you know that's what it feels like. It feels like a girl's like ravage me and you're like yeah I'm about to play G&R. can't get it up. I mean, Guns and Roses suffers from erectile dysfunction when you when you plunge. It's terrible. It's freaking And how this is why like Jersey Jack This is why Jersey Jack always kind of concerns me because like nobody stood over Guns and Roses and was like, "What are you doing, dude?" Like nobody stood over Avatar and was like, "These lower playfields suck." Nobody stood over Godfather and be like, "The whole thing is stupid." Nobody stood over Toy Story 4 and like we can't make this. No one no one wants the fourth movie. This fourth movie is not the one anybody likes. So that's why like when we get to this I I think this game is going to make up for so many past mistakes at JJP. I think when we see this game, um I and and I think here's here's the part like I think what's here is is really rad. And I think what's going to happen is this connected with the assets with David Theal. Oh, did I mention they licensed John Williams theme song? They have all the John Williams music for Harry Potter. All of it. So, you're not going to get like some inspired by a track. You're getting the John Williams
    22:32
    one? Uhoh. Uhoh. This might get This might end. This might I'm going to hope he soothes and I'm going to give him five minutes to try and soothe himself. It's just it's so hard with a he's he's got an ear infection and he's on medicine and he's on Tylenol and he was sleeping fine and then Killian woke him up and it's it's it's really I think the hardest thing for a parent is to hear a baby crying. Um, so we'll do this for a little bit more, but if he keeps going, I um I'm gonna pop in there. And you know, it's like a beautiful thing about life is he falls asleep only in one place if I'm holding him. I I'll tell you this tonight, gang. And and I was crying earlier because like Killian started asking me about about death tonight. Like it was like four years old and like I don't I don't ever want to like die, Dad. Like I don't want you and mom. Like it was just like it it like in my mind I'm thinking about like like literally had to like walk away so he didn't see me just like lose it because it's like I think about we've got a pinball image that leaked and and how serious everybody is. And I'm going to tell you this right now. I mean I I was talking to Billy B about this Bill Brandis. I I think I think like a lot of people want to run at this stuff and just like complain about like the colors or the the CE artwork and and I think about what would happen if Killian saw this game, right? He'd like be like, "That's so cool. Like, that's so awesome." you know, and I and I think this game is going to be special, like like it's going to have a lot more to like than there is to nitpick. And I think a lot of games might have come before this at Jersey Jack that might have had more in it, but they weren't more fun than this is going to be. And I actually really do like the collector's edition artwork. And I think for those of you who who don't, I think you need to understand the concept of why they did what they did and it's very smart. So they made the movie visuals of Harry Potter the arcade and wizard edition. So the so thousands of games will be made for those uh moviegoing Harry Potter fans. They then go get the book illustrator who's famous in the Harry Potter fan base to make the CE. So, you've made two versions appealing to both and and it's the same game, right? It's the same game, the Ellie as the the wizard as the CE. So, it's like kind of like and I didn't know who that artist was, right? So like the first the first reaction is to just react and and and tear down and and not like not not not try to learn like well why why is it that like what is this you and you know what that art is doing from the left side of the cabinet all the way to the right it's telling the story of the eight different movies and I believe it's telling like all I think it's all the different schools are represented in that artwork, you know. So, I um I actually think it's quite beautiful. I I think it's quite beautiful in its subtleness. I think it's quite beautiful in its color palette, and I think it's quite beautiful in its differentiating qualities. I think it looks like no other pinball machine I've ever seen. And this is no other game for a company that's waited 12 years for something like this. So I I I kind of, you know, I think we're all very uh triggered. I I think we've been very um abused by a lot of pinball ripoff games. And I think I I do I do I do think a lot of companies have been hoodwinking us and gaslighting us. And I do I do think Stern has gas lit a lot of this community. They have they they've been gaslighting you now that you're spending $15,000 on a fully optioned stern. It's more than that even like gas lit. Put it next to a Jersey Jack. It's not even close. Yeah. It's more fun. Yeah. Like it's had better flow, but but I think now you're finally going to start to see not just from Jersey Jack. I think from Spooky Pinball, from Barrels of Fun. I think you're everyone's starting to wake up to the reality that you made the mass- prodduced company that makes the Honda Civics. You guys started spending the kind of money you're supposed to spend on a Mercedes and a Bentley and a, you know, a high-end product. You guys threw money at a company that doesn't deliver a high-end product like this. And that is why, you know, I think when you see this game and if it plays really well, again, the angry, think about who defends Stern to no end, it's these tournament players who I get it, they love the game play. They love playing on location. They're not really the new and box audience. They're not the dudes losing, you know, three to $7,000 now on new and box pinball. So, and I look, I think all of this is only going to do one thing. It's only going to make Stern get better. It's only going to make Stern enhance its own product. You know, Stern's about to raise their prices by $500 across the board. $500 across the board. So, a Stern Ellie with a $2,000 topper now will actually be more expensive than Harry Potter CE. So, I'm very much uh in in a in a state of enthusiasm for this game. Okay, let's talk about the artwork. Little it's a little weird. I won't lie. It's a little weird in in a sense of Let me go from bottom to top on the artwork at the
    29:22
    um there there's a interesting here. There's the the flippers are two different colors. The right side is green with purple below it in as the outline drain and the left side is red. So you got like some red and green. But don't worry, it doesn't it doesn't feel Christmy because in the middle then I I guess it's more like green and maroon. And it's like the It looks like the color of Harry's hooded whatever his hooded cape that he wears or wizard robe. And then you got Harry, Ron. You got Harry and then over one shoulder is Herm Hermione. And then over the other is Rod. We is Ron. Okay. Um, and then there's like a there's like some of the other students like Voldemort's on like a plastic. Um, and then above Harry is Hogwarts with the eagle flying or the bird flying near the moon, but there's like a Hogwarts. And then above that there's like this greenish area with a brownish circle with a triangle in the middle. And then one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I think that's like the eight school. So there's like seven inserts around a triangle. triangle with like a circle in the middle.
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    Um, yeah, this is interesting, too. So, you got it looks like you got Ron on a broomstick. Oh, there's Dobby. I think that's Dobby. I was laughing. I was It would be funny if like if they um they made a one ofone sle Dobby edition, but only Canada could buy it. Chris, seriously, is your image mirrored? [Music] Um, it's a good question.
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    No, it it's not mirrored, Carrie. Red is on the left. Yeah, red is on the
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    left. I got I got Yeah, red I have red as the left flipper. And it's not mirrored because the I I I have the I have the [Music]
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    um I I I have the the apron and it's Harry Potter spell correctly.
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    Um, oh, there's Dobby. Dobby's in the the lower left uh by the outlane. And then on the there's a big rule card here. Let me It takes up like almost all the apron. Let me I'll show you this. I I don't care about showing you this. This This is the rule card.
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    Look at this that look how much of the apron that eats up. That's not giving away
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    anything. And you can see like the other apron is like I already shared this is like this is Eric's signature um with the stamp or the wax seal. Uh you can you can see his signature. Um, I guess what's going to be interesting again is like how many they make of the CES. So that's that's the big
    33:32
    Um, I think what's gang in in less than 48 hours we all are going to have a chance to to see Harry Potter.
    33:42
    Um, I'm trying to think if there's anything here I'm missing. There's a lot of ball paths here for you. Um, this looks like
    33:54
    um Oh, wait. Oh, I didn't notice that. All right. So, this is like So, okay. When you plunge, this is interesting. I thought. Ah, okay. So, you're gonna plunge. It goes You're gonna plunge. It goes like this and then into into what looks like some sort of mechanism or scoop or some sort of like some sort of like something where then it's going to send the ball into the upper upper right
    34:34
    area. But there's like wire forms. Oh, wait. What's going on here? Oh, wow. Okay. I'm seeing what I think. If I'm seeing what I think I'm
    34:49
    seeing, I I'm just making a guess here. Canada, why don't I sense any excitement from you on this pin? Oh. Oh, okay. Um Carrie, look at look at the wire forms up the in the middle of the game. They they just end at a certain point in multiple areas. I think I think the ball's going to fly from one wire form to another with a gap. I I think I think the ball is going to end up It looks like the ball's going to end up doing some jumps or like flying through the air. So I I think you're going to see I think you're going to see some cool stuff like that. Um so yeah, like I think you're going to see that. I think you're going to see the ball traveling through the air, not on a wire form, jumping from one side to the other.
    35:57
    Yeah, there's definitely mechs in it. Um, there's definitely interactive stuff. I just can't make it all out. I'm got a little bit of a blurry image. There's not like um there's there's some major mech. I don't know what it I don't want to show you guys. I don't know what it is, though. It like It's hard to tell, you know? It's not It's not like I'll say this. It's not like Oh, there is that Voldemort. It's not like looking down and seeing a big gorilla, right? It's not like looking down and seeing a big sentinel. Like nothing nothing is jumping out that is just like, "Oh, it's
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    that." Um, any pop bumpers? Uh, yeah, that looks like a pop. I think the pop bump I don't know if there's like three. It looks like there's pop bumpers. See, I can't tell if this is an upper play field or but I think there might just be like one pop bumper up the center like near the
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    look. Yeah. Like I think anyone asking Carrie and I like is this the next Godzilla? Like why aren't you more excited?
    37:20
    Um, I am curbing my over I get yelled at every time. Every time I get yelled at for hyping and then it not delivering. Okay, I just told you I think this will be the best shooting JJP game. I think this game is going to be a humongous hit for them. I I do. I think people might complain about the artwork a little bit. It's not franch good. It's not It's again, but I think seeing it in real color, it's going to be fine. It's just it's not the
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    it's it's it's fine. It It's not bad. It's It's not I can't tell. Again, I'm a little my image is blurry. It does the I look, all the attention is not going to be on just like the art near the flippers. The attention is going to be on all the fun cool stuff. And again, just thinking about like Avatar and how beautiful that pin is to stand over. I think this is going to be like twice as beautiful to stand over and look at all the stuff because I think unlike Avatar, you're going to stand over Harry Potter and see all this really fun stuff to shoot and stuff to interact with and there's none of that in Avatar. Do you see any chipping? That's funny. Adam, you're funny. [Music] Um, what is getting pulled on the arcade edition? Um, nothing is getting pulled from the playfield. The arcade edition is losing a shaker motor. It's losing rad cows. It's losing uh glass transite. It's losing inner art blades. It's probably losing maybe hot rail, a hot rail or two. Probably one hot rail. I don't even think it's losing a hot rail to be honest. I It's just Everything that it's losing is cosmetic. It's not losing anything mechanical.
    39:42
    think this is this is like Jersey Jack just being like, "All right, operators, here you go. You don't need all that fancy stuff cuz you're going to be routing it." All right. Like, you know, for those of you who don't like the CE art or don't need all that, like for those of you just joining, Hogwarts Castle will be the CE topper. I think what's I think the reason why you can tell I'm a little bit like I'm not going crazy. I'll be honest with everybody here. It's because there there's no FOMO right now. You know what I'm saying? If there was only a thousand of these and I knew I had one, it'd be a much different Canada right now. You know, I just don't have that like, oh, you know, because part of what drives a lot of that enthusiasm is I'm I'm getting one and you you might not, right? There's a lot of that with the whole collectibility of pinball. There's a lot of that like race to get your name on a list, race to get that to me, I feel like that's over. Like, so it doesn't really matter. Like, you don't have to be anybody special to get one of these. And that's look, it's probably a good thing. I was talking to Bill Brandice about this and I said this to him. I'm like, "Look, I think this game is going to be the best Jersey Jack game ever. I think it's going to sell so well." And and and you know, he was saying like, "Well, if the game's amazing, then it's not going to depreciate." And I said, "Bill, I want to stop you. I think this game is going to be one of those magical games where like you just buy it and you don't even care about resale and you didn't go in because of that and you're just like and maybe more pinball should be like that because I think one of the reasons why we've been so accustomed to talking about resale is we've just been buying so many games that deep down inside we know are not worth it. The effort wasn't there. The creativity wasn't there. the quality definitely wasn't there and and you just, you know, you get tired of it quickly. And I think this game kind of has that potential that if you're a Harry Potter fan, you'll never get tired of it. You know, cuz imagine like if Guns and Roses was like a great shooter. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like Guns and Roses has the fan base, but like after you've seen all the the light shows, you're left with one of the worst shooting games and the most frustrating gameplay games ever. And and that's why Guns and Roses tanked like it did because it's just like it's just not fun to it. Like look, it's still a spectacle. The spectacle will never will never stop being amazing. You know, you put a Guns and Roses on in a dark game room with a couple whisies in you and that spotlight goes across and all the lights are going crazy and you're cranked up to 41 with a pinwoer system in your your Guns and Roses. Come on, man. You know, you're not going to get that. Like, that's not going to be the way you start playing Harry Potter or like Willy Wonka, you know? It's like it's got it's still got that factor of like yeah like it rocks but it also gameplay-wise sucks. And what I think everyone's like it's not the multiballs. The reason Guns and Roses sucks gameplaywise and I played it more than any pin I've ever played is the outlane drains are terrible. It it is probably one of the most brutal on both outlanes, brutal outlane drain games I've ever played. And I've lowered the freaking post from the factory and it just wants to drain all day long on the left side and right side. Excuse
    43:40
    me. I did move the outlane post. It doesn't matter though. Every shot that bricks or ricochets or heads towards that area goes
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    out. It's not about nudging. It's not It's just like It's not about nudging.
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    Like like I don't think I don't think you should just have to constantly nudge a game to make it be fun. I don't and I nudge but like to constantly have to be nudging every time the ball it's just the other part I realized about Guns and Roses and you know the it's like I don't know like when you after a while you just realize how onedimensional the journey is, right? It's like it it's it's such a one-dimensional game. And the best be the best moments in the game are not even the most fun moments are just the four not even four. Like I would say the two the most fun in the entire game are the two album mini wizard modes. Shall we play a game and tear down the wall? all the Civil War one where you shoot the cannon to knock the movie posters. Like the game just needed more of that. The the demolition derby one isn't that fun and fighting the robot is not that fun, but it just needed more of that. It needed to have a a a moment where you unlock the music video for one of those iconic songs. It needed to have that like patience should have been a moment in the game that felt really special and different, you know? It just it just doesn't. It's just another song. Like I don't know. Like I just I feel like G&R again a game where they just never kept going back to it and made it better and they never listened to any of the feedback.
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    Now, like I'm probably just gonna keep mine because uh it's at the point now where Guns and Roses collector's edition. Like, if you really want to sell it, I I'm I'm I'm You're You're It's It's like eight grand. And like I I don't care. I'd rather just keep it for $8,000. Like, to me, it's like enough of a work of art to keep for eight G's, right? I mean, this was four G's, my gummy bears, you know? It's like that was $12,000. this little Neo Geo, right? This that was $12,000. So, like I'll keep it. And for and and again, before you start flaming me for this SC, go look up a SC14 Neo Geo. You can't even get them. So, don't don't don't start don't start with me. I know I know what it's
    46:51
    worth. Yeah, it's a beautiful machine. Like, Guns and Roses is good in a deep collection and when people come over, it's fun there.
    47:09
    gone. I didn't see that coming. And, um, you know, as I said on my podcast, I I wish Ken the best. He was always very nice to me. Uh, even when he didn't have to be. And that's that's my feelings on Ken Cromwell. He was always um very polite, always very gracious. And I I'm bummed because like he texted me like a month ago be like, "Can't wait to have you out here to see Harry Potter." So I just don't Something clearly went down and I don't know. I don't I don't even want to
    47:44
    speculate. I don't know. I feel bad for him because he grinded it out across four mediocre games, right? Like when you work in sales and marketing and communications, like you grind it out in the bad years, like you got you got Ken, you got to sell me Godfather. You got to sell these avatars. And then you get to Harry Potter. It's like finally all those years of grinding it out here. Finally, my ship's going to come in and he's not a part of it. Just feels off to me. But that just goes to show you like whatever made him want out or made them want him out, whatever. I don't know how to be really like significant of a like an emotional decision, right? It's not a financial one. They don't need the money. Emotional decision. Uh there's no center post in the game.
    48:56
    Well, I can tell you this. I would assume maybe I don't know. Maybe the job at Flipping Out is going to pay more than the job at Jersey Jack. I don't know.
    49:15
    Um, the CE and the Wizard playfield art the same. I don't know. I haven't seen I doubt it. There's always a little bit of a difference with CE artwork on the
    49:27
    playfield. I don't think there's a bash toy. I don't see a bash toy. There might be, though. Again, I'm looking at it from completely overhead. Does the Playfield artwork match the cabinet artwork? Um, the Playfield artwork is more of it. It matches the wizard the wizard edition artwork. And then yeah, like you're not seeing any of that. Was it like Nurmalina? I I forget the name of the artist. So Nema Lina, I don't Nemina. I don't know what it is, but that art, you're not seeing any of that art style on the CE.
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    Um, yeah, you're not. Um, what's interesting is I think this armor is left over from Godfather. It might be a different shade. I hope it is, but it looks like it's leftover from Godfather.
    50:30
    Um, does the car move? I No, I don't think so. Um, the car clearly is probably just attached by a wire. Allah the Hallelujah Mountains.
    50:52
    I I I don't think that car moves. It It There's no nothing. It It's not attached to anything that would move it unless it like spins around, but I I'm going to go on a limb and say the car is not
    51:12
    moving. So, Hector, you know, to me, muted movie clips are going to be a big issue if that's the case.
    51:22
    Isn't it crazy gang though if you go look at Stern Star Wars how completely hideous that game is? Like it is one of the most ugly games I've ever stood over on every every level. It is so ugly. The artwork is atrocious. The way the the tie fighter on a spring, the lazy screen screen by the targets, it it is terrible. And I will I will verbally fight anybody that thinks that Star Wars by Stern is a creatively good pin. it. And not only that, Dwight destroyed it by like stacking movie scenes from the different trilogies on top of each other. It is the literally is like, let's do everything wrong with a Star Wars trilogy pin. And that is Star Wars. And the only makes it fun for you guys that always try to defend it is Yeah. Because you're getting hit with the theme song. Yeah. Because like it's like Yeah. What's getting what's what's your your senses what's arriving at them is what you love so much. But it is executed in pinball form so bad it's
    52:47
    comical. It's terrible. And that's why like I don't know like the rumor of the next board game is Star Wars. I mean, I I I I can't imagine they're going to do the original trilogy again and burn everybody who bought that Star Wars. Let me see. Let me make sure my
    53:55
    Sorry, I'm just I'm like reading something an email. Look at this. I got I don't know how to cash in this money. Thank you for the $10, by the way. Town Rumor, I appreciate it. I really do. You know, since I've stopped doing um Facebook lives, I've sort of given up all my monetary rewards of these live streams. So, do you guys have the ability to send money? Let me
    54:29
    see. Yeah, you got super chat. Nobody uses it. Carrie, how do you get people to use the super chat? Everyone here just I just I'm too kind. I just respond to everybody.
    54:47
    I also got to figure out how to like hook up my YouTube, too. Um, I really do appreciate it. I can't see any magnets, but there's going to be magnets in this game. It's hard. There's not like a, you know, like like if Stern had a magnet, there'd be like a big silver circle with like a terrible spider above it. See, I knew it. If I just like encourage you guys, you guys are the best. Allan, thank you so much. I really do appreciate it. Robert, thank you so much. Um, did you like the Toad PhD Twitch link I sent you? I think I have to watch that
    55:34
    TZD. No one can see code for Potter if they order early. Um, what does that mean, Kelly? I I think people are going to see code. I definitely think they're going to show some code Thursday with the reveal video. And Cos two stars. I love it. Um, I I hope so. Well, here's the thing, gang. Unless the order window to get a CE is like 24 hours, if it's like a week or two, just wait. Wait. I'd rather with all these new games, I'd rather them find the issues, find the chip playfield issue, find the mechanical problems, and fix them and get a later
    56:28
    build. Oh my gosh. Hector, look at you. $50. Mexican $50. How much is that in Is that Is that Mexican50? He by the way, Hector's been a great friend um for many years, Hector sent a beautiful Formula 1 track outfit onesie for Cassian. And every time I go to a pinball show and Hector's there, it's like Hector's there, Bill Brandice is there, but Hector's taking me out for like Wagu beef, and Bill's just telling me how much money he makes a day. That's that's the difference between Hector and Bill. I love I love both of them, but that's the difference is one dude's like, "Here's let me treat you to dinner." The other's like, "I made so much today, Chris." I'm joking with you, Bill. I I love I love the um the friendships I've made in this hobby. Oh, wow. More. Put your PayPal in the screen and we can show. Okay, so my PayPal is easy. Canadap
    57:35
    pinballgmail.com is my PayPal. Um you guys are going to make all the Canad haters mad. They they still you you know what's funny is you guys have just made you've made up for I love that there's like goals. Let's set a goal. All right, we can do 10 super chats.
    58:17
    um I'll show the action button. This is what this is what I should have done is like I should have just like said this is funny. I didn't realize you could do any of this carry. Um, you know what's funny is the So, I have a goal for 15 super chats. Tux, brother. Tux is another great guy down in Texas. Tux, man, can I ask you a question? Like, has Derek Stzman like also just ghosted you, too, or is it just me? Did he did he disown all of us at the same time? I I think he's out of the hobby. I I haven't heard from him since like since the election, I haven't heard from him.
    59:06
    Chris, get on Cameo. It'd be funny. I should just not just be on Only Fans. I mean, let's be honest. Brenda's always like, "Just go on Only Fans." Like, you can get like men to pay you money to take your shirt off. Like, probably more men would pay to see that than women. Um, my my It's It's true. It's true. Um, I know he moved to California, but, you know, the phones didn't stop working. He just He stopped working. I don't mean what he's made so much money. He works at Netflix. That's the funny part is like his he's doing better than he's ever done in his entire life, but he lost he lost me as a friend, which I think was the dumbest move ever because we were just such good friends. Pete Rosen is here with 50 bucks. I mean, I don't even know how to cash this stuff out. I'm gonna figure it out. I'm sure it goes somewhere, right? I mean, this money is real. Um, Pete Rosen is, I think, the number one donator and Patreon to Canada because because Pete's always the dude who um was always on Facebook Live with the 5,000 stars. Always, right? I mean, just Pete, I really I can't even thank you enough. It's been um it's been a great run, brother. And may it continue here. This is great because I didn't even realize we could do all this, you know, and like what's funny is like people were telling me like, well, we
    60:41
    right. Oh, I don't I don't know. Oh, so like it's the goal is to get the super chats. That's so weird. um
    60:52
    the the um the amount of generosity in this hobby and you know look I I always say like it's if I could quit my day job and just sort of do this if I like if I was working in in gaming or Fortnite was the topic like you know I had like a like instead of 680 or something subscribers I had 68,000 like you know I I I wake up in the best mood ever. Like, and I'm I'm that's what I'm chasing. Um, you need to stream more. Well, like this this will definitely make me stream more. Um, and I always wanted the streams to be available for anybody to join. And I and I do think YouTube is better than Facebook. Uh, I think Facebook is is too much of like, yo yo yo, it's your it's your boy. It's your boy, you know? It's like, yo, here we are in Walmart. Like, check. Like it's just like every time I like I don't know when you watch Facebook lives now from people is just like yo here I am like walking in the pinfest. It's just like I I I prefer this. I mean I can share screen. I can do other look at Bill. Look at this guy. Just going to do it like that. He's just going to do it. You going to do me like that, Bill? You going to do Pete Rosen like that? Pete Rosen. You gonna let Bill Brandis get away with that? just make a onetime $100 incredible offer. Bill, first of all, I love you. I mean, this is great. This is this is this is the only way I'm going to be able to afford Harry Potter. Uh as as all these, you know, come flying in. Um but I'm No, this is great. Like, this just this really does melt my heart uh with the last 48 hours of not getting any sleep. Uh, and I I can't even And Bill knows this cuz I I was talking to Bill yesterday about this. It It is incredible to me what a difference it makes in life when you walk into a room and you're surrounded by people that are happy to see you. you have a topic you're excited to talk about and and you're just like connected by something like this and it's I struggle because like you know I go into work and like got like there's like the level like corporate America you guys know when you're in it like it's it's just hard like you you got you can't be yourself. You've got to be a chameleon. You've got to change who you are depending on who you're talking to. And it's like you can feel your skin crawl when you do it. And you have and you can it it just turns you into such a bad human over the years because you're just like you don't even know who you are anymore when you come out of it. But here, this is who I am. You know, you meet me in person, you meet me at a show, you come here like this. this is this is me because like this you know teachers always would tell you the thing you do for free is the thing you should do is the thing that will make you the happiest and I I would do this for free I've been doing this I did it for free for the most years you know so we've got Billy B at 100 Pete Rosen at 50 this is great guys thank you so much um you know I I'm gonna take Brenda out for a a meal with all of these donations because taking care of Killian and Cassian for just three days is like what uh like borderline impossible. So, not only does Brenda do that like every day, she does it without complaint. She got a job after Meta laid her off along with 60,000 other people. She taught herself sports streaming. Like she's now working for FanDuel, um, Baldi Sports. She's incredible. She's like been promoted. She got like a great like she's just like to watch her and raise two little children and find this house and find the realer that found this house and like got us the first appointment to see this house Friday at 10:00 a.m. and you know like it's just like when I think about all the things Brenda has brought to my world mainly the two little ones. I mean, just the it's just like Yeah. Like cause like that 99 cents, man. I can't get her a dinner worthy of a woman like that. It's funny, you guys. I I love it. I I love like that you embrace the the the Canada panhandling, the the busking that I do. Like cuz the thing is like when I'm busking like this gang, like we're all in on it and we're all in on the joke, but the haters are like it's just so annoying. like he's and then they're like, "Oh man, you know, but they're actually like sincerely trying to like do all this work to get like money like, "Oh, here's my new t-shirt. Here's my stickers. Here's my this." It's like they're doing all this work. We're going to give away a translate tonight. And they're doing all that work and Canadia's just like, "I don't know, guys." Like, and it's like boom, like 400 bucks. Like boom, you know, thousands a month. Like boom. There's still like it's just be real. That's it. That's it. it. There's no You don't need to do giveaways. The only thing you need to give away is an honest opinion. That That's it. This is like the only thing I've ever given away to everybody in this community for 12 years is an honest
    66:49
    you. No giveaway. I'm out of here. Yeah. No, I don't. Why does anybody want to translate? It does. You know what? You know what's funny is like when I when I um I just going to say this like I was given a Guns and Roses banner and I opened it up and I was like this is the dumbest thing ever. I I would never hang this anywhere. And like I don't get it. Like this makes sense if it was at a trade show or in a in a deal, you know, Dro's warehouse or showroom. Maybe not even like they're just I I just they're just stupid. I just got to say this. Pinball banners are dumb. They look stupid hung up on a wall. Don't do it. If you have them, take them down. Now, I think my biggest pet peeves, I know I can't talk much about pins in front of windows, but the other one is just don't store anything under your pinball machines. You ever noticed that? Like this the worst. It's like putting something. It's like storing stuff under a grand piano. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's a piece of furniture. Don't store anything underneath it. People are talking about Dune here. Let's see. Um Dune got such a push down our throat out of the gate. Need to play one. Um here's the thing. Here's the thing.
    68:23
    the well, first the reason why this was expensive is it's an Etsy artist. It's you're supporting a small business. She does it by hand. You know, it's like this isn't a mass-produced product or item and I, you know, I ordered it larger. Like shipping it alone is like 800 bucks. Um or something like crazy like that. I don't know. Um the thing is this. The thing is
    68:50
    this, when Potter comes out tomorrow in two days, the the the problem is is like I just think Dune and Kong are just kind of like going to struggle not to be yesterday's news. And and and this is like a big problem in all pinball. If you don't launch with a like enough code and you don't launch your game with enough magic and memorable moments out of the gate, like you're you're like instantly forgotten. You're quickly and and that's a lesson that all these companies need to learn. There wasn't enough on week one to feel like you needed to own either Kong or Dune. There just wasn't. And there still isn't. Like there just still isn't. And that's an issue. Now I think when Harry Potter comes out on Thursday and it's pretty much done, there's going to you're not going to be like waiting for this game to come to life. You're not going to be like sitting around hoping, you know, they have a plan for the code and like I can't wait to see what this eventually does. No, it'll all be there. So I again that's why like you'll have a lot more fun month one with Harry Potter than you'd have with Dune or or like King Kong or Predator. Now I said at the beginning of the show um Predator without Arnold is not not happening in my house. Like it's just not happening. So, I um you know, I think these guys need to learn that there are just non there's like non-negotiables with some themes and not having Arnold in Predator is a non-negotiable. You either get them or you don't make the game. I'd rather you make a Last Star Fighter and have every asset from the movie and have all the synced up voices and actors or like Iron Eagle. I'd rather have Iron Eagle with all the rights than Predator without Arnold. It's just the way it is. Just the way it
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    is. So, um I I know it's silly to think they had Arnold. He's a seven figure deal. He's a sevenf figure likeness deal.
    71:24
    [Music] Um, who's Chris Hansen? Yeah. Well, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a lot more expensive for name, image, likeness than Sigourney Weaver. A lot more, you know, like a lot more. She was pro I'm gonna guess getting her into Alien I'm gonna guess was
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    like $150,000 $200,000 I'm going to guess that Arnold is like over a million for name image likeness in a movie in you know in a
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    game that you know and then Tom Cruz is not even he won't even do
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    You Oh, you mean Chris Hansen from To Catch a Predator? Okay, now I get the joke. Sorry. I'm just I literally did Do they even They don't even air that show anymore. You guys know why they don't air it? It's crazy reason why. Like the whole reason the show went off the air is because like I want to say like they they did they did an episode where they they exposed I think it was like a rabbi as like a pedophile and the dude just like right there just like pulled out a gun and like blew his head off like like I think as the cameras were there or something like they literally like it it's like they just like they realized is like, well, we we you know, this this is like too far, I guess. Now, look, if there's anybody that should be publicly executed, it's pedophiles. I mean that. I really do mean that. You look at you take an innocent you take the innocence away from a child. That's why that's why go see what happens to those people in prison. It's terrible. Anyway, I don't know how we got at such a serious topic, but that's why the show went away. The the the SNL skit on it though is kind of amazing. When um when Chris Hansen walks in on Santa Claus coming, you ever see that one where Santa Claus comes down the chimney, he's like, "Sir, um what are you doing in the house of like, you know, an eight-year-old? like can you please have a seat over here and I want to read for you like you know the messages you've been sending there. It's just like can't wait to give you my gifts. You know it's like it was funny. It was funny. It was it was really you know it's nothing it's it's it isn't anything to make fun of but it was like a you know that's the that's the reason why comedy is so important and like why cancel culture was like the worst move ever in the history of humanity is like when you try to cancel comedians from giving us a a a reason to laugh about the things that cause us the most pain. You you literally have just ruined the ultimate therapy of the human condition, which is laughter and comedy. And these like kids just wanted to cancel all of it so that nobody's ever offended. And then everyone's just miserable every day like me and my blue hair. Anyway, everybody, I'm going to go to bed. Um, it's been great. It's been real. It's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun. Canada, if you're not a member of Canada's Pinball Podcast, um, please, you know, think about signing up. I had three people leave tonight, unsubscribe because I wouldn't share the pictures of the playfield because I want to let Eric and his team have a moment. So, if three of you want to offset those three jackasses, and what those three jackasses don't know is they ain't ever allowed back cuz I'm going to block them and ban them if they ever try to come back. Cuz I think that's the biggest petty whiny behavior. You don't get to hang out in Casa de Caneda. Uh oh. And he's crying. See, I hope he settles.
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    It's a good time to call it. All right, everybody, be good. Daddy duty tonight's never going to stop. Everybody, this was fun. We'll talk soon. Canada out.