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Episode 15 - Not Much

Special When Lit·podcast_episode·34m 2s·analyzed·Sep 26, 2018
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TL;DR

Special When Lit Podcast pre-Expo buildup with Multimorphic reconsideration and rumored WoZ variants.

Summary

Ken Cromwell and Bill Webb discuss upcoming Pinball Expo 2024 (20 days away), a recently acquired rough Whirlwind machine Bill is restoring, and unexpected positive impressions of Multimorphic's Lexi Lightspeed platform. They preview interviews with American Pinball's Nirmal Vasini about Oktoberfest and Pinball Expo organizer Rob Burke, tease streaming plans post-Expo, and speculate about Monster Bash remake and potential Jersey Jack Wizard of Oz Yellow Brick Road edition announcements.

Key Claims

  • Pinball Expo is 20 days away with Oktoberfest being the primary new machine reveal expected

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell states Expo is '20 days away' and explicitly names Oktoberfest as 'the only pinball machine that I'm aware of' coming up

  • American Pinball's marketing strategist Nirmal Vasini will appear on Special When Lit next week to discuss Oktoberfest details

    high confidence · Ken confirms Nirmal Vasini scheduled for next episode industry buzz segment with potential unreleased Oktoberfest information

  • Multimorphic's Lexi Lightspeed has significantly evolved since early versions 3 years ago and offers a unique pinball experience

    high confidence · Ken describes playing Lexi Lightspeed at Pinball Life and being 'extremely surprised' by platform maturity, calling it 'a really cool pinball experience'

  • Monster Bash remake has been in limbo since March 2024 with possible licensing delays

    medium confidence · Bill and Ken speculate Monster Bash hasn't appeared since Texas Pinball Festival; Ken theorizes licensing finalization from licensor may be holding release

  • Jersey Jack Pinball may be developing a Yellow Brick Road edition of Wizard of Oz following Ruby Red and Emerald City variants

    medium confidence · Ken reports hearing on Head to Head Pinball Podcast that JJP was discussing a Yellow Brick Road WoZ edition 'coming to fruition'

  • Bill Webb acquired and is restoring a used Whirlwind cabinet described as rough but serviceable

    high confidence · Bill describes the condition: 'it's kind of a turd' and 'rough' but states he's working on it despite cabinet condition concerns

  • Ken will attempt to break the 10 billion point mark on Star Trek: The Next Generation

    medium confidence · Ken requests tips from audience: 'If anybody has some tips on how I can break the 10 billion point mark over on Star Trek'

  • Scott Danesi recently released a Ryan Bell add-on product for Pincab

Notable Quotes

  • “I was extremely surprised, and I mean extremely surprised, on how far along that whole platform has come. It offered an experience like nothing else that I've played in pinball.”

    Ken Cromwell @ mid-episode — Reversal of earlier negative opinion on Multimorphic platform; signals potential reassessment in community perception

  • “This is Detroit to cars. I mean, you know, when they do start launching all the auto shows every year, where do they start? Detroit? Yeah. Then Chicago. You know, I mean, we should have a really, really good show.”

    Ken Cromwell @ mid-episode — Emphasizes Pinball Expo's importance to the industry; Chicago as pinball capital analogy

  • “I'm going to predict that the Monster Bash remake will be revealed over the next seven days.”

    Ken Cromwell @ late-episode — Explicit prediction about Monster Bash timing; indicates long community wait and speculation

  • “It's just a different experience. The playfield was very interactive. The game itself was integrated so well within the LCD playfield. There were physical blocks that came up through the middle of the playfield at points where you had to break those down to get into different modes.”

    Ken Cromwell @ mid-episode — Detailed technical praise of Multimorphic's hybrid playfield design innovation

  • “It's not anywhere. Yeah, I'm curious to see what happened with that, if they're just waiting to release it closer to Halloween, Expo, or...”

    Bill Webb @ late-episode — Acknowledges Monster Bash disappearance from market awareness; speculation on reveal timing

  • “We are just sitting back and waiting and waiting and waiting. The difference being, at least you know the night before Christmas that at some point you're going to fall asleep and wake up and it's Christmas Day. I feel like we're in Groundhog Day.”

    Bill Webb @ end-episode — Metaphor for pre-Expo anticipation and extended wait for Monster Bash; captures community sentiment of stalled announcements

  • “My biggest regret is that I don't know that I will ever really have an opportunity to get a lot of time on one going forward unless I'm stopping in the Pinball Life.”

Entities

Ken CromwellpersonBill WebbpersonSpecial When Lit Pinball PodcastorganizationScott DanesipersonNirmal VasinipersonRob BurkepersonAmerican Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: Pinball Expo in 20 days positioned as major event with expected Oktoberfest reveal; hosts planning seminar attendance strategy and streaming coverage

    high · Ken: 'We got Pinball Expo now 20 days away. Yeah. So. Getting exciting.' Scheduled Nirmal Vasini and Rob Burke guest appearances to build hype.

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Ken explicitly reverses prior negative judgment of Multimorphic after playing Lexi Lightspeed; signals potential community reconsideration of platform viability

    high · Ken: 'I was extremely surprised, and I mean extremely surprised, on how far along that whole platform has come... it offered an experience like nothing else'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Extended speculation about Monster Bash remake reveal timing; community frustration with delays since March; Ken makes explicit 7-day prediction

    medium · Ken: 'I'm going to predict that the Monster Bash remake will be revealed over the next seven days.' Bill: 'It fell off the face of the earth, bro'

  • ?

    machine_intel: Unconfirmed rumor of Jersey Jack Wizard of Oz Yellow Brick Road edition discussed as potential variant following Ruby Red and Emerald City editions

    medium · Ken: 'Another interesting thing that I heard again on Head to Head Pinball Podcast was that I guess they were talking about... a yellow brick road edition of Wizard of Oz from Jersey Jack Pinball'

  • ?

    content_signal: Special When Lit planning post-Expo streaming launch with different approach from professional operators; seeking live audience interaction and bonus content

Transcript

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The Special When Lit Pinball Podcast is sponsored by Two Brothers Pinball Pale Ale, a juicy, hot pale ale that takes your taste buds on a flavorful ride. Woo!
0:12
Coming at you out of St. Charles, Illinois, the Special When Lit Pinball Podcast starts now. Thanks for hitting that start button and taking the plunge. Here are your hosts, Ken Cromwell and Bill Webb. Hey, what's going on Pinball Land? This is the special When Lit Pinball Podcast and it's episode 15. I'm Ken, my co-host is Bill. And when we left off last week at Scott Danesi's house, we went on a Mexican excursion, road trip. Yeah. Right. So Scott specifically asked me if you wouldn't mind critiquing this restaurant that we frequented after the podcast to give your formal review. So, formal review. Number one, their salsa, their green salsa verde is awesome. Not the best I've ever had, but it's pretty close. Their steak is really, really good. And what I was surprised is, is that their pastor was also really, really good. It's not the best I've ever had. I mean, that's a big bar. But literally all around, that's probably the best place to go for everyone. The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of WGBH. I was a lawn mower and crammed it into a thing and I was eating it and it was like chunks of stuff. I think I'm a Chipotle guy. Okay. Even in a pinch, a Taco Bell will do. A Taco Bell will do, knowing that it's Americanized. I don't think I appreciate what's going on with authentic Mexican food. All right. Just in all honesty. So if you're in Sleepy Hollow, you might want to check out Salsa Street.
2:16
Yeah. We'll give them a shout out because that was pretty good. Actually, I had that for lunch today, too, just to verify my thoughts on it. And if you're in St. Charles, Illinois, I recommend the Chipotle off of Randall Road for those that are Americanized. Or Chipotle nearest you. Right. Check it out. Hey, whatever works. Whatever floats your boat. So quite honestly, not the busiest week in pinball, but we're going to do our best to keep you informed and entertained here for the next 30 minutes or so. What's going on in the life of a Bill Webb? Life of Bill Webb. We got our Project Whirlwind over the weekend, which was kind of exciting until I saw it. Now I've nicknamed it Project Whirlwind because it's kind of a turd. It was a little rough. Yeah, with some work it could be rough. Yeah, well. Yeah, but you know what, I mean, there was a few more. Serviceable for sure, I mean. It is. You know what, honestly, I knew the cabinet was kind of rough, which is not a total concern to me, but whatever. The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of WGN Radio. We're upside down building it. Yeah. You know, I built enough machines and been upside down enough doing this that I don't want to be in that state anymore. So you know, honestly, I mean, this whirlwind will be kind of close to where I bought it to what it'll be worth when I'm done. But you know, it'll be an interesting journey. You know, actually, it's kind of funny because I was, you know, sold the game and once I bought it basically and talked to my buddy that bought it and he's like, yeah, I ain't We'll see you next time. We've only been here once. It's worth owning. How many times, Ken? I don't know. Twice. Yes. Okay. Scared Stiff, Twilight Zone, X-Files, Earthshaker. I've never owned the same pin, the exact same pin twice in three days. All right. Well. So you set the record on that. Set the bar. Right. Okay. We've got Pinball Expo now 20 days away. Yeah. So. Getting exciting. It is getting exciting. And I think it's time right now. It's perfect timing for Expo just because, as I stated earlier, there's not a whole lot Out of the box, we have the Octoberfest pin, which I think is going to be revealed. That's kind of the only pinball machine that I'm aware of. In fact, next week on the show for our industry buzz segment, we will have Nirmal Vasini on the show. He's the marketing strategist over at American Pinball. So he's going to come on, he's going to talk a little bit about what American Pinball is all about and give us a little preview about the Oktoberfest. So if we play our cards right, I believe we might have some new information on Oktoberfest that has not been divulged yet. So that'll be fun. Good times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So again, I think this year I'm going to focus on getting into more of the seminars. I don't typically do that. The Oktoberfest, if it is revealed, I would like to be there. That's Thursday at 8.30. And then, I'll tell you what, man, I'm still excited about the Deep Root seminar. I want to see what Robert Mueller and staff have in store for us. And that is going to be, I'm sorry, that's Friday at 5.30, I believe. And the Oktoberfest reveal is Thursday at 8.30 p.m. Yeah, that sounds right. What is your plan of attack at Expo? The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of WGBH. I'm a great at six because that's always a good time to check out stuff before it gets totally mobbed or stuff winds up disappearing.

high confidence · Ken mentions 'Scott just recently this past week he did release that Ryan Bell add-on to Pincab or I guess it's a standalone product'

  • Special When Lit is planning to launch pinball streaming content after Pinball Expo

    high confidence · Ken states 'we are going to attempt to take a little bit of a different approach to pinball streaming' post-Expo to offer bonus content

  • Chicago area pinball market is extremely competitive with cash-only, same-day deals required to secure machines

    medium confidence · Ken describes Chicagoland market as 'very, very cutthroat' requiring $5,000-$6,000 cash within 30 minutes to secure a machine

    • Ken Cromwell @ mid-episode — Indicates Multimorphic machine scarcity in location availability; challenges for casual access

  • “Hats off to Multimorphic for what I think is a really cool pinball experience. All the best for your career.”

    Ken Cromwell @ mid-episode — Explicit praise reversal; social signal of respect after prior dismissal

    • Multimorphic
    company
    Jersey Jack Pinballcompany
    Pinball Expoevent
    Pinball Lifevenue
    Head to Head Pinball Podcastorganization
    Oktoberfestgame
    Monster Bash Remakegame
    Wizard of Ozgame
    Lexi Lightspeedgame
    Pincabproduct
    Star Trek: The Next Generationgame
    Two Brothers Artisan Brewingcompany
    Whirlwindgame
    Joe Kaminkowperson
    Zach Sharpeperson
    Terryperson

    high · Ken: 'we are going to attempt to take a little bit of a different approach to pinball streaming... it would be fun to kind of get a little bit of the streaming audience involved'

  • ?

    product_launch: Scott Danesi recently released Ryan Bell add-on/standalone product for Pincab; product to be showcased at Pinball Expo booth

    high · Ken: 'Scott just recently this past week he did release that Ryan Bell add-on to Pincab or I guess it's a standalone product'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Chicago-area pinball market described as highly competitive with cash-only instant deals required; limited availability of certain platforms like Multimorphic

    high · Ken: 'if you're not prepared to literally have $5,000 or $6,000 cash on you at any given time and get to the destination within 30 minutes, there is no guarantee'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Multimorphic's Lexi Lightspeed features innovative hybrid playfield with interactive LCD integration and physical blocks emerging mid-play

    high · Ken: 'The playfield was very interactive... There were physical blocks that came up through the middle of the playfield at points where you had to break those down'

  • ?

    competitor_signal: Multimorphic platform positioned as alternative rather than replacement for traditional pinball; niche but viable market segment

    medium · Ken: 'I don't know that it'll ever take the place of a regular pinball machine. That being said, it's absolutely a very cool alternative. And it's still pinball.'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Monster Bash remake delays possibly due to licensor approval/finalization; Bill speculates about licensing requirements impacting release timeline

    medium · Ken: 'I think they're waiting for person finally finalization from the licensor... I'm not the best... but literally, where's it'

  • ?

    community_signal: Special When Lit actively soliciting Facebook/email feedback from listeners; requesting project photos and machine buying/selling posts to build community

    high · Bill: 'definitely post that. I love looking at that' and Ken encouraging listeners to share on Facebook for personal connection basis

  • ?

    industry_signal: Pinball Expo positioned as industry centerpiece comparable to Detroit Auto Show; Chicago as pinball capital; anticipation for announcements and networking

    high · Ken: 'This is Detroit to cars... This is Chicago. And this is like here. I mean, the best way to put it is... we should have a really, really good show.'

    • 7:11
    And you found some pretty good deals in the vendor area early on the opening night of… Yeah, that's when the deals are to be had is like the first night before people really scavenge and… I suppose the last night's good too but it's picked over at that point. Yeah, you're just getting deals on stuff that you've already seen.
    7:28
    But yeah, so then that's our plan for that part of it. And then obviously hit the show at 830. Yeah, 830. I'm sorry. Yep. Yeah. And then Friday we got Pinball Life Party. So we're going to be going to the Pinball Life Party early, I think closer to noon and probably leaving before 3. And that's just to give us enough time to get over to Expo, grab some food, and then head into that 530 seminar with Deeproot, right? And then we have something going on that Friday night too, don't we? Friday night's up in the air. I know there's going to be a lot of people that have requested getting a chance to kind of sit down and hang out. There will be talks being had and some drinks being consumed, so that'll be a fun, fun evening. I glad you brought up that you bringing your Transformers into the Penn Stadium booth because Scott just recently this past week he did release that Ryan Belt add to Penn Stadium or I guess it a standalone product Did you get an opportunity to look into that at all I have briefly It been kind of a crazy week with trying to drive down and go get that game and whatnot but looks like a cool product so looking forward to seeing it on a couple games. It'll be fun to see it at Expo. Scott was recently on head-to-head pinball podcasts, Ryan and Marty out in Australia and they, Marty had done an interview with him and it was interesting because you kind of got What an inside look at Scott's personality and his perspective on the actual launch of Penn Stadium. If there's one thing that I know I can vouch for Penn Stadium because I was I think one of the original people that kind of purchased the product and installed it on a machine, wasn't paid or comped or anything and I liked it so I ordered multiple sets I know that he took a little bit of backlash because of what was perceived as aggressive or overly The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of WGBH. I mean, I wish Scott luck with this. Yeah. And again, I'm looking forward to seeing it in action at Expo.
    9:55
    He's so meticulous. I don't really see him missing the mark or missing anything, but we'll see. No, he's meticulous. He knows what he's talking about. He's very, very thorough. He knows what he wants to see. You know, him and I have talked on a couple occasions, and I like how detailed, orientated he is. Yes. You know, just very, very thorough. The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of WGBH. We'll see you next time. I still want to see it in person, but I'm excited to see it. Oh yeah, definitely. And I know there's going to be some streaming going on at Pinball Expo this year. And the reason I'm bringing up streaming is because myself and Bill, we had talked about dabbling into doing some pinball streaming. And we're going to leave the absolute streaming and YouTube videos to the professionals, you know. And that's a Jack Danger. Zach and Greg is straight down the middle. We are going to attempt to take a little bit of a different approach to pinball streaming, and I think it will be fun. It will offer some bonus content for those of you that have been listeners to the show, to new listeners coming on, and it would be fun to kind of get a little bit of the streaming audience involved into what we like to do with our pinball podcast. So it's something that we're looking to get into after Pinball Expo sometime. Yeah, and honestly doing that, I mean a big part of it too is just to be able to interact with live while streaming, you know, and be able to talk to people and get their feedback and, you know, I mean we've been getting a decent amount of feedback through the email and Facebook, which obviously you guys are definitely encouraged if you like the show, please like us on Facebook, send an email, questions, comments, concerns, don't like to talk about Mexican food or Baywatch, send it in, no problem. The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of Iowa Public Television which is solely responsible for its content. We're kind of touching on some topics that we normally wouldn't, like pinball streaming and our Facebook page, but it'd be great if you guys get on there and just check it out. If you don't like it, don't thumb up it. We're not asking for handouts, but we like to get to know everybody that's listening to the show on a little bit more of a personal basis. Oh, yeah. Yeah, honestly, on the Facebook, too, Ken didn't touch on this, but project stuff, definitely post that. I love looking at that. The Power of Pinball is brought to you by the God of Pinball, www.global.com, or by the God of Pinball, www.global.com, or by the God of Pinball, www.global.com. I have a friend whose name is Mike Burke. I know who Rob Burke is, and it was just a slip of the tongue when I said Mike. So my apologies to Rob and to anybody that I might have confused. I was speaking about Rob Burke, who promotes the Pinball Expo. Consequently, I had spoken with him today. He's currently out of the country, but he will be on the show next week as well, I believe, just to kind of give us some additional information about Expo, maybe like a five or ten minute segment with him to kind of, you know what, build some hype. It's our hometown Expo. It's undergone a lot of changes this year. I believe that we'll all be for the positive, and I want to do what I can to create a good show. We'll see you next time. The show that was in my apologies, but the show that was just in Canada, the Vancouver pinball show, but this is Chicago. And this is like here. I mean, the best way to put it is, you know, this is Detroit to cars. I mean, you know, when they do start launching all the auto shows every year, where do they start? Detroit? Yeah. Then Chicago. You know, I mean, we should have a really, really good show. And honestly, from what it sounds like with all the people that are jumping back in, I think we will wind up having a We'll see you next time. All flights, man. I just watched that show manifest last night. Oh, geez. How was that? Well, dude, I don't want to get there five and a half years after the show. Yeah, don't spoiler that show because I know that's what the premise is, but I actually want to see that. Okay. I don't like flying, and it's not because I'm afraid of flying. I just, I don't like being encapsulated with a couple hundred people. I can't get out. In an enclosed area? We be right back use the bathroom It just not comforting for me so See I don mind flying I just like driving more Well you know I don like driving Oh I know Well dude you can put your feet up have a Two Brothers Pale Ale sit in the backseat dude and I was gonna say, you can't be drinking Two Brothers Pinball Pale Ale while you're driving. Well, I wouldn't. No. No, no. All good things. All good things. All right. You know, a quick shout out to our buddy Joe. Joe Kaminkow, Automated Amusements, rad cabs or side art panels on cabinet, John Popadiuk, Bowen Klyce, Zach Meny, multiball, backglass, Johnny Pinball Podcast, INDISC, Scott Danesi. I'm shooting what's blinking, so I need to figure out some scoring strategies. If anybody has some tips on how I can break the 10 billion point mark over on Star Trek The Next Generation, feel free to contact us at specialwindlitpinballpodcast at gmail.com or go ahead and post on the Facebook page, which is also specialwindlitpinballpodcast. Well, I do have some tips about this game. Don't move one if you can get out of it. The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of WGBH. We'll be right back. I went in the back and at the very back is the crazy science lab of Scott Danesi. And if you go back there, there's always crazy things going on. He's always in the middle of creating something. But anyways, long story short, I had noticed this time when I walked in the office, I said, hey Scott, what's up? Terry has a Lexi Lightspeed. He's like, yeah man, he's like, you should go check it out. And I'm like, yeah. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because I think it's important to revisit some of these things that people may have passed judgment on in the past. I had originally played Multimorphic. It had to be maybe three years ago. So it was still in the very early stages. You know, it was in the middle stages maybe. And I played it and I just wasn't really into it and I was thinking to myself, all right, this might be something that's fun for somebody that's just looking for something completely out of the box, somebody that's not into pinball at all. To me, it kind of, it felt like a high-end redemption game where I was going to, playing I was going to bring this ball around the playfield, it was going to hit some stuff in the back and then at the end I'd get some tickets, but it didn't give a pinball experience to me personally. So, you know, unfortunately for myself, I just kind of wrote it off and I didn't keep up to date with what was going on with Multimorphic. I've never spoken of Multimorphic because I just didn't consider it anything that was in my general interest. Going into pinball life, Scott recommending that I fire up Lexi Lightspeed. I was like, you know what, it's fine, I played all these other games, might as well just see what's going on. I have to say this. I was extremely surprised, and I mean extremely surprised, on how far along that whole platform has come. It offered an experience like nothing else that I've played in pinball. Is it better? No. Is it worse? No. It's just a different experience. The playfield was very interactive. The game itself was integrated so well within the LCD playfield. There was a physical blocks that came up through the middle of the playfield at points where you had to break those down to get into different modes. The animations were fun. The flipper mechanisms flipped well. I'm excited talking about it. My biggest regret is that I don't know that I will ever really have an opportunity to get a lot of time on one going forward unless I'm stopping in the pinball life. But hats off to Multimorphic for what I think is a really cool pinball experience. All the best for your career. And if you guys want to send one over here to the two brothers pinball pale ale studio for some extensive review we would not shy away from taking one of those. But it's really, really cool. So, anyone that's passed on looking into this in the past because of something that you experienced a couple of years ago, I thoroughly recommend jumping on one at expo or at a show I'm going to go ahead and get some videos, see what's been done with this, because I was pleasantly surprised, and I'm excited to talk about it.
    22:29
    So you think it's underdog, huh? I don't know that it'll ever take the place of a regular pinball machine. That being said, it's absolutely a very cool alternative. And it still is pinball, you're still flipping and you're hitting mechanisms. You just have this crazy playfield that isn't just static www.indisciplein.com I'm pretty picky about what I would own. Now, all this being said, come around full circle, it was only a few games there at Pinball Life. So, I don't know, maybe after 20, 30 games it loses its luster with me and I get bored because it wouldn't be the first time that happened. But I just remember just how that feeling that I had was completely different than what I had a few years ago when I played it at Expo. So, again, very, very well done. See, I've never got to play one, so I really have to just make it up to Terry's and actually Pinball Life. We'll see you next time. It's come to the point out here in Chicagoland where if something gets listed, if you're not prepared to literally have $5,000 or $6,000 cash on you at any given time and get to the destination within 30 minutes, there is no guarantee that you're going to take this, that you're going to be able to pick up the pin that you agreed on. There's no like, hey, can I give you $100 on PayPal? It's just very, very cutthroat here, which is unfortunate. 그런데 im auf request lagge, ichを Troy Wheeler & The Best Is To Hitz Я mai the good thing the great thing about it's really it's allowed me to not look for pins on Craigslist or anything anymore bridgeodo toe die I I think I've got better luck maybe with people that I know personally iello hede networking has definitely been a better source of finding games lately, it seems like well I know you been contacted a bunch just by mentioning some games on the podcast I Grandma Yeah yeah yeah I p You should have like a bills bargain basement segment im a basement segment Or you can talk about your buying your buying and selling And on that note if you feel like selling any pins and you want to post them on our Facebook page feel free to do that too Yeah, right. And if they sell, we'll just take like 10%. You know, we ain't greedy. A way to monetize. Yeah. Well, someone's got to pay for the studio here. I know. The Two Brothers Pinball Pale Ale Studio. Exactly. It's in need of a little upgrade. Yeah, maybe not. I'm curious to see what Nermal's reaction will be when he comes into the Pinball Pale Ale studio next week. Because we offered to go on location, but he preferred to come in studio. Well maybe he wants to bring you a Houdini and then unload it so we've got something to play. I will take a Houdini and an Oktoberfest. You know, and this is the thing too, manufacturers, we have no problem taking a pinball machine on loan for four weeks Ok Whale Street Press This Week
    26:28
    Knapp Arcade, Steern, Jersey Jack, deeproot oob butser American pinball Predator Monster Bash Remake I think it fell off the face of the earth, bro, because it's not anywhere. Yeah, I'm curious to see what happened with that, if they're just waiting to release it closer to Halloween, Expo, or... I think they're waiting for Expo, like the 35th anniversary of Expo. Is that next year? That's next year. Yeah, so maybe they're going to reveal it then. My gosh, how long are we waiting for this? A long time. I mean, everyone was talking in March that we should have been seeing it. Well, it was supposed to, yeah, Texas Pinball Festival. мет oil as we're going is something of with that pan uh... i know what was possible for their waiting person finally finalization from the licensor or something that it's like i'm not the best i think is the lasa man RAM Yes this site is a broken record at the state site uh... whereas it was l as it was that but but literally wears it with a house event and till the age of you know i'mせて Stephen i would proper least it by no one you know and i'm sure they have The reason why they haven't, but... So they had the people that came in and played it under NDA, and so, I mean, those people kind of know what's up. Yeah.
    27:55
    But my, I mean, come on already. Just release the pin. You think it'll come to Expo? You think they will release it at Expo?
    28:04
    You never know now. Or reveal it at Expo, I should say. I mean, honestly, if you were to ask people, you know, put a hundred bucks if you think it'll be out before June, everyone would have taken that bet. We'll see you next time. I'm just kidding. Yeah, right? You might have another vault. Yeah. But yeah, so this will be our turn. I'm going to predict that the Monster Bash remake will be revealed over the next seven days. So when it doesn't happen, we can ask This Week in Pinball, or we can ask Head to Head Pinball, or we can ask Eclectic Gamers Podcast, or we can ask Kaneda's Pinball Podcast that will pass the baton to them. They'll do the similar prediction where they get their week, and it'll just be kind of There's nothing wrong in there. I think they'd be a good time. Another interesting thing that I heard again on Head to Head Pinball Podcast was that I guess they were talking about... Did you hear this? Another edition of the Wizard of Oz from Jersey Jack Pinball that might be coming to fruition. I have not heard that yet. So the last one was the ruby red, right? Yeah. Seventy-fifth anniversary ruby red. And that's kind of the flagship. Yeah, that was the one to, that or the ECLE, but the ECLE was the first run. Right, so what they had talked about today was a yellow brick road edition.
    29:52
    Interesting. The ruby red was cool because there was the red armor. You had the red that was up in the topper. I just like how that pin. We could top her on that one too. Right. Yeah. You had the Emerald City edition, which was like, it had the green. And the wood apron. The Wood Apron, that was like the limited edition. So now when you go into potentially having a Yellow Brick Road edition, do you really want to see yellow armor on a Wizard of Oz?
    30:20
    No, but I'm curious. Well, maybe, maybe not. I'm curious to see how that would look, though. I mean, that's...
    30:27
    I don't like yellow on that. I don't know. I guess, yeah, you can't count it out, but it's like a mustard... Well, yeah, but you never know, though. I mean, honestly, it could be just, you know... We'll see you next time. And the Black armor. You need a witch head edition.
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    Yeah, the witch. The Wicked Witch of the West. Yeah, that'd be cool. Or the East, whichever one it was. Either way, dude, a witch head edition would be cool. You just have like the feet sticking out from the bottom of the cabinet that kind of curl up. Exactly. Or kicking in inappropriate places when you lose a ball. Yeah. So then, hey, what a fabulous week. I'm just trying to pinball a lot of news here, guys. We can name it after the wife. Hey, you know the Wicked Witchhood edition. I got this for my wife. Yep. You know, whatever it takes. Nah, I'm kidding. Love my wife. So I've got some good news for you, Bill. We've passed 30 minutes. So I think we've done what we can this week. All that we can. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? It's kind of like the night before Christmas. Well, weeks before Christmas because you got Expo coming. You know all this stuff is on the horizon. It's just, you know, the calm before the storm, you know. Yeah, interesting that you say that. We are just sitting back and waiting and waiting and waiting. The difference being, at least you know the night before Christmas that at some point you're going to fall asleep and wake up and it's Christmas Day. I feel like we're in Groundhog Day, where right now we just go to sleep, wake up, same day over. Go to sleep, wake up, same day over. But it's all anticipation because in 20 days... Soon to change. Expo. Yeah. Do you have anything else you'd like to add to the Special Inlet Pinball Podcast episode number 15? No, I just want to thank everyone for listening. It's been a great 15 episodes. Looking forward to seeing where the rest of this goes and that's about it. Yeah, 15 episodes in and everything's feeling great. Again, thanks to everybody for taking the time out of your day to give us a download and give us a listen. And, you know, if you do want to contact the show, I'll just mention it one more time. You can reach us. We've got that Gmail account set up, which is SpecialWhenLitPinballPodcast at gmail.com. If not, jump on Facebook and search SpecialWhenLitPinballPodcast. You guys have a good morning, good afternoon, good evening. And don't forget to take some time out of your day to play some pinball. For Bill Webb, I'm Ken Cromwell. This is the SpecialWhenLit Pinball Podcast. So long, everybody. The special when lit pinball podcast is sponsored by Two Brothers Artisan Brewing, makers of pinball pale ale. You're passionate about all things pinball and great tasting craft beer. Two Brothers Artisan Brewing is a firm believer in pursuing your passions. For over 20 years, Two Brothers has had an unparalleled passion for their craft, their customers and their community. Two Brothers Artisan Brewing wants you to follow your passion and drink theirs.