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DPP #243 "Free pinball focus group!"

Don's Pinball Podcast (regular feed)·podcast_episode·50m 32s·analyzed·Jun 1, 2026
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TL;DR

Don surveys active pinball manufacturers' pipelines, focusing on American Pinball's Cuphead revival, Barrels of Fun's September targets, and Jersey Jack's Sonic launch.

Summary

Don covers the state of the pinball industry by going through active manufacturers alphabetically. Key updates include American Pinball working on Cuphead and a new movie-themed game with designer Nick, Barrels of Fun targeting September for Winchester Mystery House and Dune completions, Jersey Jack preparing Sonic (speculated June 9 release), Dutch Pinball facing criticism for slow topper delivery and deposit practices, and various other manufacturers' challenges and upcoming releases.

Key Claims

  • Cuphead pinball is still in development at American Pinball and has plans to be released at some point

    medium confidence · Don citing 'birdies' who told him about continued Cuphead plans at American Pinball factory

  • American Pinball has a designer named Nick working on a movie-themed game (who also designed Tony Hawk homebrew)

    medium confidence · Don stating 'I'm hearing they have a movie theme, and I'm hearing Nick, the guy that did Best Hair in Pinball, but he did the Tony Hawk Homebrew. So he is on a game over at American Pinball'

  • Barrels of Fun plans to complete Winchester's Mystery House and Dune orders by September

    medium confidence · Don: 'the plan is still to have Winchester's Mystery House and whatever Dune orders that they're going to make complete by September was the last thing I've heard'

  • Jersey Jack Sonic pinball release is speculated to be June 9th

    low confidence · Don: 'I'm just going to say June 9th. That's the day we're going to see Sonic, everybody. Purely speculation at this point'

  • Dutch Pinball's Back to the Future art looks good but the game itself is described as 'fairly barren'

    medium confidence · Don: 'what we're hearing is that the game is fairly barren. What we're hearing is that the art looks good... I've heard that the art on the main version of the game looks fantastic'

  • Hexa Pinball's Three Musketeers is not a compelling game release and the company needs a license to succeed

    medium confidence · Don: 'This is not going to be a big seller. You guys, you need a license and you need to come correct'

  • Jersey Jack is rumored to be working on Justice League and Van Halen pinball games

    low confidence · Don: 'I've heard Justice League several times... I've heard Van Halen rumor that's out there, maybe'

  • Jersey Jack may have lost the Matrix license deal

    low confidence · Don: 'Not Matrix. That's also what I've heard. So I think they had Matrix, but they couldn't get everything they wanted'

Notable Quotes

  • “The game that American slipped out of the grasp, man. We're in the wrong timeline. There's probably a thousand other timelines where this game came out.”

    Don @ mid-episode — Reflects on Cuphead's development issues and alternate realities where American Pinball retained the license

  • “I'm not interested in sending this company money and then just sitting on my hands and not being able to tell exactly when I'll have to come up with the rest of it.”

    Don @ Dutch Pinball section — Expresses frustration with Dutch Pinball's deposit practices and inability to deliver toppers on time

  • “This is free focus group testing right now.”

    Don @ Jersey Jack section — Describes his offer to visit Jersey Jack and provide feedback on Sonic after public release

  • “They've got the tightest lips in the shipping industry for pinball.”

    Don @ Barrels of Fun section — Notes Barrels of Fun's secretive approach to new releases and lack of leaks

  • “Why don't you do a music pin where instead of just being kind of a fast shooting game with a tiny dancer that's there and an Elton on a piano, make a game, a haunted house game, a mystery castle game.”

    Don @ Van Halen rumor discussion — Articulates design philosophy for how music-licensed pinball games should approach theme integration

Entities

DonpersonAmerican PinballcompanyNickpersonBarrels of FuncompanyDavid Van EspersonJersey Jack PinballcompanyChicago Gaming Companycompany

Signals

  • ?

    product_launch: American Pinball's Circus Voltaire has been announced but no shipping updates or delivery timeline communicated; Don notes lack of information about when it will be available

    high · Don: 'I've yet to see a Circus Voltaire. I've yet to hear about a Circus Voltaire getting ready to ship anywhere. When is this game coming out exactly?'

  • ?

    product_concern: Dutch Pinball's Back to the Future reported as 'fairly barren' in gameplay despite good artwork, raising concerns about playfield depth and engagement

    medium · Don: 'what we're hearing is that the game is fairly barren. What we're hearing is that the art looks good'

  • ?

    operational_signal: Dutch Pinball unable to deliver toppers; customers waiting 6+ months for topper fulfillment on Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

    high · Don: 'People are still waiting six months or more on Toppers I think was the last update for Alice's Adventures in Wonderland'

  • $

    market_signal: Heavy concentration of new pinball releases expected in coming months creating decision paralysis for collectors with limited budgets; Don mentions needing to choose between Circus Voltaire and other upcoming titles

    medium · Don: 'If I go in on a Circus Voltaire, I am effectively shut out from whatever release is going to come over the next four to five months'

  • ?

    business_signal: American Pinball maintaining active production despite limited market visibility; trucks observed leaving factory with Hot Wheels machines

    medium · Don: 'they're still making them, still shipping them. I saw the moving trucks come to pick them up and take them hither and yon. So they've been busy'

Transcript

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0:00
Let's see what I said, 243. I'm feeling a little saucy. Well, hello everybody. Don from Don's Pinball Podcast. How you doing? Checking back in. It's been a week. It's been a Memorial Day weekend. Let's talk about, I don't know, every single active pinball company that there is. Okay, I'll do that right now.
0:30
Jaws. Devastating week. It's been. I'm going to double hit this thing. We'll get two thuds going. What's up, everybody? Don is here back again. I am taking a moment to revel in my freaking arcade that's finally been put back together. I got all the moving equipment out of the game room now. We've got 11 or so games now that Pokemon has gone down here. One upstairs will be coming down. Black Knight's Sword of Rage. Would you get down here? Would you take the stairs, please? Or, you know what, borrow the F-150 and drive around to the back. I'm having a great time in pinball. A ton of stuff has been happening. And, like, there's a storm gathering as well about to dump on us. I mean, Sonic is like, I can see it nearly on the other side of the cornfield out my window right now. And we've got everything else right behind there. We're gearing up to have a blast of a fall greeting us after Labor Day. But for now, it's summer, sweet children. And let's talk about, this is always the funnest thing to do, let's go around to every single pinball company that's active right now and talk about what's going on with them, where their state is, what the vibe is coming. Are they aura farming? Are they 6'7"? Who knows? I decided to go through this list alphabetically. So we will start with Pinball Company number one, number one in our hearts, number one in North Elk Grove Village, East Palatine, Illinois. It is American Pinball. Heyo! American Pinball, the house that Cuphead almost built. Man, so this company has been resurrected by not Jan Michael Duncan, Brian Michael Vincent, I think that's his name. I met him, cool guy, great haircut. And I got some other friends that are over there too. So supposedly, like American Pinball has been chugging along with its factory this entire time. I know, hard to believe, but not only, you know, they're built just on barbecues. People are still buying Hot Wheelses. I don't know who these people are, but even months ago, my last time there, they were still making them, still shipping them. I saw the moving trucks come to pick them up and take them hither and yon. So I don't know who these people are, but they've been busy. They've been doing polycades. They've been importing other arcade equipment. I don't know what they're doing to the manufacturing exactly, but stuff has been leaving that factory. It's been active. Now the latest activity that we've seen from them is the Houdini 100th. 100 years since the demise of the great Houdini. It's a game with the shots are tight. It is fun to watch the ball fly across the playfield into the magic jar. It's Houdini. You've played it. There's been different versions of it. Now there's a 100th anniversary version, which is exactly the same as every single other one with a new cabinet art package. By Christopher Franchi, which admittedly, it is fire. However, a hundred of these isn't going to float this company, but I think it was a good place to start, I guess. Get something moving. Grease the wheels. Let's get pinball manufacturing going in the public eye again. They announced Circus Voltaire. I've yet to see a Circus Voltaire. I've yet to hear about a Circus Voltaire getting ready to ship anywhere. When is this game coming out exactly? And does anybody care? Does anybody care about Remix? By the end of this episode, man, You're going to be like, who cares about a remake? Put it on location, bring it to shows, let me play it, I guess, that's fine, but I'm not going to spend my money on that to bring into the game room here. I am a man of meager means as far as having a double-digit pinball collection will afford you, but I've got to be choosy, man. If I go in on a Circus Voltaire, I am effectively shut out from whatever release is going to come over the next four to five months. So, with that being said, where's Circus Voltaire? I don't know. Now, we had a media day recently. I was there, Stern Pinball, Transformers, we'll talk about it here in a bit. But there was another media day that was going on as well that was over at Jersey Jack Pinball, two blocks away. You go down to the McDonald's, make a left, it's right over there. Cool people over there. I did not show up because I was not invited, and I am a polite individual. But people saw Sonic, people played Sonic, and if they did play it, they can't say anything about it, not even that they were there, none of that business. We know it's coming in a couple of weeks. But at the same time, there was a third, third little, maybe not an official media day, but there was like peeps in a factory. I'm hearing now that there were a couple of people, at least two, over at American Pinball playing. Would you get this? Sit down for this. Stand up for this. This is Cuphead. They were playing some Cuphead. Hey-oh! The game that American slipped out of the grasp, man. We're in the wrong timeline. There's probably a thousand other timelines where this game came out. And it's a fun game. The game's fun to the designer's credit, to the team's credit, to the credit of the license holder for providing the music and animations. And it was all new. This is Cuphead 3. This is the third iteration in the trilogy of games. It just happens to be a pinball machine, a cool concept, man. They were set up for success, but it was snatched away. Victory was snatched away from them when they were getting their feet wet with it. So I am hearing from some people, some birdies have told me that there are still plans to have this game come out at some point. Hell yes. Hopefully that is sooner rather than later. Otherwise, the other thing I could see going on with American Pinball release-wise will be a new game. I'm hearing they have a movie theme, and I'm hearing Nick, the guy that did Best Hair in Pinball, but he did the Tony Hawk Homebrew. So he is on a game over at American Pinball. I love that. Guy's got a ton of ingenuity. I've talked to this guy multiple times. It shows I kind of picked his brain a bit about the design process for Tony Hawk. There's some cool ideas he put in there. If he can bring that level to a commercially viable game that's going to shoot consistently well, hopefully, man, I think we're really going to be in for something. So that will probably be the actual release that will come from this company when probably not for another 12 months. I think it's like 18 months at least from inception to creation of a game. Multiple times. Many times it's longer. 18 to 24 months. I think we're about six or eight months into this thing. So maybe another year. And next summer we'll look for something. So hopefully Circus Voltaire can fill the void. Please make Cuphead the thing that's going to come out after that. I think people are talking. It all comes down to money and respect. And hopefully it can happen. So that's what I'm seeing from American Pinball. Circus Voltaire at some point haven't heard. Cephead hopefully to follow. Movie theme after that. Boom, I love it. I want to get passionate about these guys. Spunky Dunkers is right up the street from American Pinball's factory, one of the best donut places around. And so that's all I need is an excuse to head back to East Palantyne. I'm going to get some Spunky Dunkers, and I want to go play some more pinball. I want to go play some more pinball. So American Pinball, if you're listening, which I know you are, when you're ready to have me come by and see something, let me know, man. I'd love to come by there. You know I have fun over there. I hope they still have that toaster with the little hot dog ports in it so you can toast your buns and cook your hot dog in the same device. It's in the break room. It's incredible. Hopefully David Fix didn't take that with him on the way out the door. You know I would have.

  • Chicago Gaming Company is working on Halo but timing is unclear and may be years away

    medium confidence · Don discussing CJC/Chicago Gaming: 'when are we seeing Halo? Are they just waiting for their window?... I just don't see Halo in the mix there'

  • Don estimates 18-24 months from inception to creation of a pinball game, with American Pinball's movie-themed game likely 6-8 months in

    medium confidence · Don: 'I think it's like 18 months at least from inception to creation of a game... I think we're about six or eight months into this thing. So maybe another year'

    • Dutch Pinball
    company
    Hexa Pinballcompany
    Stern Pinballcompany
    Multimorphiccompany
    Christopher Franchiperson
    Mark Ritchieperson
    Mark Seidenperson
    Sonic (game)game
    Cuphead (pinball)game
    Back to the Future (game)game
    Winchester's Mystery House (game)game
    Texas Pinball Festivalevent
    Pinball Expoevent
  • ?

    rumor_hype: Multiple rumors about Jersey Jack's future releases including Justice League, Van Halen, and previously Matrix (reportedly lost); none confirmed

    low · Don: 'I've heard Justice League several times. I think Eric's up next after that... Not Matrix. That's also what I've heard'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Barrels of Fun uses extremely tight-lipped strategy, releasing games with minimal advance warning or leaks; Winchester's Mystery House came 'out of nowhere'

    high · Don: 'They've got the tightest lips in the shipping industry for pinball... Winchester totally came out. We heard nothing'

  • ?

    community_signal: Collectors expressing anxiety about deposit practices and long wait times; Don advocates for pre-purchase transparency from manufacturers like Dutch Pinball

    medium · Don: 'I don't want to be in a position where I've put down a $2, 500 deposit and I have no idea when I'm going to have to pay the balance'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Don articulates preference for music-licensed pinball games that integrate IP into substantive mechanical/rule design rather than superficial theming

    medium · Don: 'Why don't you do a music pin where instead of just being kind of a fast shooting game... make a game, a haunted house game, a mystery castle game'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Nick, designer of Tony Hawk homebrew, assigned to American Pinball's movie-themed game project

    medium · Don: 'I'm hearing Nick, the guy that did Best Hair in Pinball, but he did the Tony Hawk Homebrew. So he is on a game over at American Pinball'

  • ?

    content_signal: Don requesting post-launch access to Jersey Jack Sonic for review/coverage rather than pre-release NDA testing; positioning podcast as free focus group

    high · Don: 'This is free focus group testing right now... Can I come swing by the shop and put my peepers on it?'

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Industry standard estimated at 18-24 months from game inception to release; American Pinball's movie-themed game estimated 6-8 months in with ~12 month runway

    medium · Don: 'I think it's like 18 months at least from inception to creation of a game... I think we're about six or eight months into this thing. So maybe another year'

    • 7:44
    Alphabetically speaking, our next company to talk about is the Venerable. Houston Zone. Barrels of Fun. Came on the scene with Labyrinth, smacked my mama with how good those sculpts were, and they've been chugging along since then. And this company is still going. I love that for them. I don't know any specifics about anything other than every time I mention something about them and I do my best due diligence to speak truth. I usually get a phone call or a text message like, hey, jerk face, but worded better. You totally messed this up. Can you please fix it? So if I misspeak, of course, reach out to me. You know how to find me and we'll correct everything. Barrels of Fun. Love you guys. We know that they followed up their seminal release. That's such a weird term, by the way. Seminal release? Like the seminal vesicles in the test? Is that where that comes from? I'm not using that word again. I hate that. It's officially banned.
    8:38
    They released Labyrinth, followed that up with Dune, all right, and Conjuring in my head, the brownest game in pinball, launched with very little code right on the heels the same day as Kong did. And then it's now found its footing. Thank goodness for them. What hasn't made the light of day, and I think it's been enough time now, where's the topper for Dune? If you guys are listening, reach out to me. Let me know what's going on. I know that they didn't have the parts yet. They didn't have the sculpts. They had some engineering. They had a CGI video. They had a cool concept. And so I know deposits were taken to go and fund, of course, the parts and everything. I'd like an update. I'd just like an update at least. Is it going to be September? Is it going to be the summer? Is it going to come out in two weeks? Let me know what's going on. What I've been able to gather after talking to the folks, the plan is still to have Winchester's Mystery House and whatever Dune orders that they're going to make complete by September was the last thing I've heard. I don't think I've had a late May update from Barrels of Fun, so I meant to reach out. I don't know if I texted or not. But let me know. Still the plan is for September. So from them, Barrels of Fun, I know that they're interested in really plussing up games. Talking to David Van Es, he's very passionate about the people that buy their games, our home collectors. He wants them to have the best product that they can. So I love that forum. What I want to know is what's the next product and where's my Winchester at? I'm anticipating September. If they hold true, I know I'm at the end of the line. Totally fine. Hopefully they'll get my game in September. So what's next from Barrels of Fun? But assuming that they do go ahead and complete all the dunes by, I don't know, around now, and then they go full bore into Winchester's Mystery House and finish that game, which came out of nowhere, man, and finish that game by September, I think they'll be lined up perfectly, like if you were Robin Hood shooting an arrow, to hit the date of Pinball Expo in October 17th or so or wherever the hell it is for another release from Barrels of Fun. And these are guys that don't telegraph nothing, man. They've got the tightest lips in the shipping industry for pinball.
    10:48
    Winchester totally came out. We heard nothing. There were some leaks on Dune. I'm hearing, like, no leaks about anything else except for this, you know, venerable, they're doing G.I. Joe. They're doing this, that, and the other. They got Dungeon Crawler Carl. Whatever. Nothing solid. Like, I haven't heard, like, a consistent solid rumor or, like, somebody that came up to me and was like, yo, the mech in Dungeon Crawler Carl is amazing. You're going to love it. They're tight-lipped. So I'm going to kind of want to hedge my bets, build up a little bit of pinball reserve money or maybe earmark a machine or two to put on the secondary market. Because when they do drop something, if it's fire, if it's limited, it may go super quick and you don't know when it's coming. You don't know when it's coming. I will say this. Guys, let me know. Like let a killer know. What about, I don't know if there's a way for them to do this, but what if they offered a Barrels of Fun fan club for a nominal fee, $60, $80 or something. And then that would buy you exclusivity. So like when a game released, maybe from 8 a.m. Houston time until noon, you had an exclusive purchase window to buy one game per club member. And then that's just in return for being a fan of them. Maybe you get a little bit of exclusivity to be able to order, not to be able to flip. You couldn't flip your deposit or anything. You'd have to take delivery before you could sell the game. I think that would put me at ease a little bit, knowing that I would have just a small head start on everybody else. Because if the game is fire and you want to get it, you want to get your deposit in early so you can be at the front of the line and not like me with Winchester Mystery House where I'm all the way at the back of the line. My own fault. I said I didn't need this game. It looked really cool, but I wasn't in a good financial position to do it. Heck, and I did it anyway, man. They got me. They got me. So I expecting and I do not want to be disappointed that we going to have a new Barrels of Fun game with loads of theme and awesome Radcal graphics on the side of the cabinet released in September and hopefully in production a little bit sooner than it took with the other two here So that's where I'm getting with Barrels of Fun. Who do we got next on the board? It's the Chicago Gaming Company. We're going alphabetically. So I have heard that there are some Medieval Madnesses for immediate release, like for immediate shipping. I think Mad Pinball posted today that they had some. I don't need one. Game is fun. I wouldn't mind owning it at some point. When I first got into pinball, I was hunting a Royal Edition of this Bally Williams Classic, and I would have loved it at the time if I could have found one. This was like deep in the heat of COVID, man. Could not get one. Now, I don't know that with everything else coming out and resources being as finite as they are, that I could necessarily jump at one. But info at medpinball.com. I've heard that Mad has them ready to ship now, Medieval Madness, if you want one. Didn't it sell out? Didn't it sell out? What the heck happened? What the heck happened? I don't know. Email Jeff and the crew, Corbin over there at Mad Pinball. See if they have one, if you're so inclined to get one. Alright, so they've got Medieval Madness, it sounds like it's leaving the factory, they did a run of a thousand of them, Merlin's Potion Edition or whatever the heck they're calling it now. They're supposed to be making Halo, where the heck is this Raw Thrills game? I wasn't sure alphabetically, is it Raw Thrills, is it Play Mechanics, is it CGC? It's Mark Ritchie on a design that's not like Pulp Fiction blaring in the background here. So when are we seeing Halo? Are they just waiting for their window? Are they in no hurry? Probably. Do they have other games coming out at some point? It's going to be years. It's going to be years. So from CJC, what do I expect? Merlin's to come out between now and whoever the heck knows. And then Halo at some point. I was hearing TPF this last year? This year? Earlier this year. Sure as heck wasn't there. All bets are off. I have no idea when this thing is coming.
    14:37
    But I don't know. It's got a release. Of all the hype for the rumors that are coming, which we're going to get to more of them, I just don't see Halo in the mix there. If it would have came out at TPF, I probably would have picked it up. But now with everything rumored to be coming, I just think there's no way. I just think there's no way. Who's next for the games and fun? Oh my God, you know these guys. Okay, before we get A, B, C, D, E, A, okay, Dutch Pinball. Dutch Pinball D, we're down to D. So these guys, I have no idea what's going on over there. They made two games in ten years and haven't finished the second one. People are still waiting six months or more on Toppers I think was the last update for Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.
    15:20
    Melvin's gone the way of Mervin's. He's not there either at Dutch Pinball. But they got money apparently. They found some people to invest in them. I loved my big Lebowski. I don't care very much for Alice. I'm thirsty for something else. I love me Back to the Future more than Jaws and probably every other 80s movie. I mean, it's freaking Back to the Future. Michael J. Fox, Christopher Lloyd. I love it. You love it. We've seen it. We've watched all three movies. We've ridden all the theme park rides. Like, this is the game. This is the game. What we've been hearing, however, is that the game is fairly barren. What we're hearing is that the art looks good. I can see, like, Franchi, like, looking daggers at me. I've heard that the art on the main version of the game looks fantastic. Looks like exactly what you would expect. Human representations of the cast on the side of the cabinet, Back to the Future, unmistakable what it is. That 88 edition SLE though I'm hearing didn't impress as much. I don't know, I'll have to wait until I can see it. And if anybody would like to give me a shout at it, let me know. But it sounds like 88 versions of a super limited edition, and maybe that's 88 for Europe, 88 for the U.S. I think that's totally fine. I think they should build some in the U.S. so we can avoid tariffs. But because Dutch Pinball's track history, I don't know if I put down a deposit for this game when I'm expecting to get it. And even as cool as that theme is, Back to the Future, even if it was a little bit lackluster with layout, if it had the assets, of course I would want it. But I don't want to be in a position where I've put down a $2,500 deposit and I have no idea when I'm going to have to pay the balance of it, to be honest. Is it going to be six months? Is it going to be 12 months? 18? 24? I don't want to be waiting and we're seeing like what these cool games are coming in the future, like 2028 games. And then all of a sudden I get an invoice in my email. You have 21 days to pay this, you know, 12, 11, $15,000. What's the tariff going to be in 2028? I have no idea. So if I get a back to the future, I will get one when it's in a box in front of me and I can pay money and take it with me right then. Or it's at a show floor and it's Sunday as the show's wrapping up I can put it in my truck and take it with me. Or I'll do a trade deal down the road with somebody or buy it from Pinside where I can go and pick it up. But I'm not interested in sending this company money and then just sitting on my hands and not being able to tell exactly when I'll have to come up with the rest of it. So that's my Dutch Pinball. I love you guys. Barry's been super cool to me. So I wish them all the best. I'm not hating on Dutch Pinball at all. But what I'm not doing is putting a deposit in for one of their games. No way. You can't even get a topper, man. You can't even get a topper. Who's next? Hexa Pinball. Hexa. What are you guys doing? What are you guys doing over there? You silly French people. I love France, man. I love the food. I love the culture. I've been to the country top to bottom. I've been to the Riviera. I've been to Paris. I've been to North. I haven't been to Brittany yet. I would like to go out and check out the west coast of France. But I love the hexagon, man. I've been there several times. I'm going to keep going. France is super fun. I love Paris. I don't care. I always have a great time there. I don't know if there's people with complaints what the hell they're doing. I'll tell you what they're doing. They're probably American tourists that are going in the height of July to Paris when all the rude people that you're running into aren't even Parisians. They aren't even French people. Of course, you're going to have a bad time. But like rent a car, go out in the countryside, go to Disneyland, go down to the south, go to Saint-Tropez, man. France is freaking awesome. And yeah, there's parts of Paris that are absolutely terrible. I don't go to them. I go to fun places, man. I have a great time in Paris.
    18:58
    There's a graffiti artist called Space Invader, and he makes tile mosaics of Space Invader figures, like not 8-bit, 4-bit or whatever, little creatures, and hides them all over. And there's an app, and you can track them, and when you find them, you can take pictures in your location and get experience points. It's super fun, man. It's super fun running around the Arondas Maltz. There's a whole crypt underneath the city. Also, you can go explore catacombs to your heart's delight. It goes on from kilometers and kilometers. It's incredible. I love France. So, that being said, Hexa, what are you guys doing? What's going on over there? You doing alright? You having a good time? Are you having a good time? Space Hunt had a cool soundtrack, man. The main shot of the game that was the most fun one was super hard to hit. It was very tight. Very, very tight. It was an okay game. It's proof of concept. I like the finishes on it. Three Musketeers, man. I get it. I get it. You don't have to pay a licensing fee. It's a French novel. There's some mechanisms in it. I haven't been able to play it when they're working. Is this game still touring around? Are you taking orders for this game? What the heck? How would you give money in 2027 with 2026?
    20:11
    How'd you give money right now for Three Musketeers with how it looks right now when there's everything else around? This is not going to be a big seller. You guys, you need a license and you need to come correct and bring something that's worthy of owning. I would love to support you guys. You've got to figure out the customs, man. You've got to get a game here like weeks before a show. What are you guys doing? I love Hexa. I love France. I want you guys to have a good game, man. It ain't it. And I haven't heard anything else about any other licenses or anything that they got coming. So that's Hexa. Let's move on to something fun. Let's talk about Jersey Jack Pinball. This is like the company that's in the spotlight currently. Next release, on deck, man. We got Transformers out there on home plate at bat. They got a full count right now. The next pitch, I don't know, man. Are they going to strike out with this game or are they going to walk themselves to first and then lean heavily into Elizabeth and get the code where it needs to be? We'll talk about Stern. Jersey Jack is on deck. They're standing right there. They've got a new release coming up. I don't know what day it's going to release, so I'm just going to say June 9th. That's the day we're going to see Sonic, everybody. Purely speculation at this point. But it wouldn't surprise me if June 9th was the date for the Sonic release. I haven't seen the game. I have put out word that I'd be interested in coming by and checking it out. I did make contact with the kind folks over there. I had good progressive discussions, and so I'm just waiting to hear back now. I'm waiting to hear back. What I asked them was, listen, I don't need to come in, NDA, show me your new game before anybody else. I'm no better than anybody in the general public. I got a show. I got a lot of people I talk to. My opinion is the same as 2,000 other people that are at home buying pinball machines and having fun with them. So this is free focus group testing right now. What I said to them was like, listen, you release your game on your schedule, man, whenever you want. And then after the game is publicly released, since I live nearby, just let me know. Can I come swing by the shop and put my peepers on it? Can I put my fingers on it? Can I play a game or two? Can I take a selfie or two with it? Can I see what the CE looks like in person? So then I can go out with my little loudmouth box here and talk about everything that I've seen to people that are really on the fence like should I go ahead and get this game? If I get this one, which version do I get? Is the arcade edition, the $10,000 version enough? Probably. Should I go for the CE? Did it look that good in person? Because video and photographs do not do this justice. YouTube videos do not do this justice. Fantastically filmed and edited trailers by the best in the business. Mason, don't do it justice. You've got to see it in person. You've got to see it in person. That's what I like to do. Failing that, what I'll do is I'll wait until the first game goes out to the first public location, wherever that is. Usually it's the interium. But I'll travel there and I'll do it there too. That's fine. But it would be nice if, expeditious, if once the game is publicly released, I'll just swing by and take a look at it, man. You don't got to buy me lunch. You got to validate my parking. I'll get my own self there while it's on up. I just want, it's 15 minutes, just want to see it again. Love to play it, and then I'm good. I'll bounce. Maybe I'll play the Godfather in the lobby and oogle those gold lions that are on it before I go out there. You know, if you want to make yourself available for interviews, I'm happy to do that. I'm happy to go walk around and do what I can to get the word out there, but we know this game is coming. So what else do we have? What else do we know? What else do we know? There's this Van Halen rumor that's out there, maybe. Do we need another music pin? I don't know. I think if you do a music pin, it's got to be an adventure plus the music. We're going to get to Stern. We're going to get to Ozzy Osbourne. But rather than just do what Led Zeppelin had, kind of a fan-ish layout with a couple of ramps, And then just visual representations of songs like, oh, we'll put a Grey Zeppelin there. Let's put the Icarus guy as a pop-up there, you know, and like loosely tie it into just the general aesthetic of the band. Why don't you do like Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle where you create a game that would be like an original theme. This is a haunted castle game with like guillotine mechs and all kinds of other stuff. And then we'll layer on Alice Cooper and we'll tie him into that, you know. So why don't you do a music pin where instead of just being kind of a fast shooting game with a tiny dancer that's there and an Elton on a piano, make a game, a haunted house game, a mystery castle game. Medieval Madness was fantastic. What if that game was made today? What would that collapsing castle look like? What would that dragon ramp look like? What would the code look like? And then you layer in the Prince of Darkness Ozzy Osbourne or in this case Van Halen and you make a game Maybe you make a redo like one of the spring break games or like Creature from the Black Lagoon or something and then tie in Van Halen music and stuff So like Van Halen's on an adventure. We have a super fun loaded layout that if it was just an original theme, maybe it wouldn't connect that much. But then you put the punch of like it's got this music in it and these characters and the bands on the screen. It's rocking and rolling. Look at the light show. It's incredible. Then I think you got something. So that's what I'm hoping if we get to a Van Halen. Is this what Mark Seiden is doing next? I have no idea. I haven't heard anything for sure. What else is on the rumor mill for Jersey Jack? Nothing we're going to see this year. I think we see Sonic. I think it comes out June 9th. I think I completely made that date up, but it makes sense to me. And then I don't think we see another release from them until March, April, something like that probably because they're still going to be making Harry Potters on line number two. They're going to be slinging Sonics for a while. And so whoever is up next after Sonic, I don't think you need to rush. Work on that code, man. Let it bake. It'll come when it comes. It might be this time next year before we see another game from Jersey Jacket. Honestly, I don't even think they need to do Sonic now because they probably still have back orders for Harry Potters, man. What else is cooking? I've heard Justice League several times. I think Eric's up next after that. He did Harry Potter, so it is Sonic. If we get a Van Halen, would he be back up again? I don't know. I don't know if this is comic book. I don't know if this is movie. I don't know if this is all the characters. I would love it if this was just Super Friends, to be honest. But we'll find out what that is. That's all I've heard. Not Matrix. That's also what I've heard. So I think they had Matrix, but they couldn't get everything they wanted. And Jersey Jack's got to go home, go big or go home. So that's where we're at. So Jersey Jack Pinball, all eyes are on you. If I can swing by and darken your doorstep, let me know. If not, it's totally fine, man. I'm not expecting anything. I just thought it'd be kind of cool. Just thought it'd be kind of cool. What else do we got? Who's next? We finish with Jay. It's dark down here in the game room. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. All right. Do you guys have a minute? Do you guys have a minute for the Multimorphic Minute? I don't think I changed my sound button. Oh, we'll go with that. Let's do a Multimorphic Minute. I just watched a reel today on Facebook. They were they were speaking to a packed crowd at their seminar at the Texas Pinball Festival talking about the greatest mech in pinball as far as the inside of the Multimorphic Minute. And, you know, of course, there was a guy gushing about Portal, said it was like a flea circus with the ball jumping around. Okay, I don't know if I would have phrased it that way, but sure. Portal's fun. Portal's some good fun. The dude on stage, I don't recall I recognized him, his choice for greatest mechanism in a multi-morphic game, he dismissed the crane mech on Heist. He went with the gobble hole, a-drained. So, brother, man, I connected with you so hard when you said that. I would have said the exact damn same thing. I've had so much fun with that damn gobble hole on that stupid game that it's my favorite multi-morphic game. Like, I have to have one now. I just wish it was like, can I have a standalone drain? I don't need to swatch out anything else. I just want that drain. 27 stand-up targets, a couple of pop bumpers, some drop targets, and a gobble hole, man. And when you shoot the gobble hole, you lose. And I know with the game's code, if you hit the things in order, the gobble hole is a bonus. But for me, there is no masochistic game like Drained on the Multimorphic platform. It's just you've got to play Drained. Don't buy it. It's like $3,000 and it's not worth it. But when you go to a show and play that gobble hole three times and then your game's over, you can walk away like... Okay, so I just watched Hailraiser the other day. And I've known about Pinhead. He's a legendary horror movie icon. So like socially I know about him and to some extent the Cenobites, I didn't really know that was their name. I didn't know what their whole thing was. I see when they show up in pop culture like they were in Rick and Morty, they've been a family guy and stuff. So I sat down to actually watch Hellraiser because I have never seen the film. What a terrible movie that is by the way. Pinhead is amazing. The Cenobites were amazing. The story of the movie is horse water. It's terrible. It's boring and slow. I don't care about any of the characters. So there's probably like 10 minutes of gore in the film. There's probably about 200 seconds of total screen time of Cenobites, and they're like the greatest thing. Yeah, they're like the greatest thing for that movie.
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    They like torture and pain, right? They're transdimensional beings that are exploring the frontiers of pleasure and pain. And I think if they had a multi-morphic machine in the realm and dimensions that the Hellraisers exist in, the realm of the god Leviathan, the hell priest of Pinhead, he would be playing drained over and over again. That would be the guy that you'd be standing behind him in line. He'd be playing drained, going for gobblehole, going to the precipice of pleasure and pain repeatedly, masochistically and sadistically not allowing you to have a game. He just kept hitting that button. He would walk up and just start a four-player game and play all four of them. And then he would flip you off, walk away, and shut the game off. That's what he would do. And that is the game. So I'll put it down here on record that Acinibite's favorite multimorphic module has got to be drained. And, specifically, that gobblehole. Man, that freaking gobblehole. There's your multimorphic moment. When's the next game coming out? I don't know. I was expecting one at TPF. They're either backlogged in making machines and portals or like everything is selling great and they just don't have to do anything else yet or something. I don't know. That's been the one interview I have not been able to nail down with Jerry there at Multimorphic. Would have loved to do it. I thought I had it once. I thought I had it once. I was all set up to record. I cleared my calendar. We met at the appropriate time and then he had to cancel. He had something coming up. He said he was going to reschedule. Just hasn't happened. Womp, womp. Someday, man. Someday I'll get in his good graces. I can't wait. I don't care if Jersey Jack ever invites me, but if I ever got an invite to Multimorphic Headquarters, I would probably cream corn myself. Because to go to the home of the gobble hole, man, it would just be incredible. It would just be incredible. Moving on, we've got a bunch of P's. We've got Pedretti. We've got Pinball Brothers. Are they one company? Are they two? Are they the Euro Pinball Corp? Should they have come beforehand? Isn't Totan getting released? Did they announce that? Did they not announce it? Is it coming? Is it not coming? Pedretti, what's going on? He should be done building Predators at this point. I kind of like Predator. I haven't had it at home. I know people have been having some issues with it. There's some issues with code, apparently. And Retro Ralph really likes it. That's what I know about Predator. I've only been able to play it at Expo. I don't think it made it to TPF. I wish it would be at more shows so I can get some more time on Predator and really kind of form an opinion on it. But from the couple of games that I played at TPF, it was all right. Yeah, it was kind of cool. It was better than I thought. Yeah, the art was dog water. Yeah, it was some really bad art in that play field. But the game itself was fun and engaging to shoot. I was able to do all the mechanisms that all worked on the game that I played. Do they hold up long term? I don't know. Six people have the game, so there's just no report on it. Hopefully my paths will cross there soon with Pinball Brothers' seminal. Oh, God, I did it again. Gross.
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    So, Pudretti, where's Toten? Are you doing it? Are you not doing it? I have no idea. Who knows what's coming from them? Who knows if it's going to be good? I heard from people that had Funhaus that had lots of problems with it. I've had people that had Funhaus and have great times with it, so it's kind of all over the board. I guess the best I could say is I don't have enough data to really weigh in on what Pedretti's enthusiasm for the future holds for me. Pinball Brothers, though, this rumor of Fifth Element from Pinball Brothers kind of came out of left field. I know Fifth Element's been bouncing around for a while with different companies, and maybe it's a case of one company had it or one company had part of it and another company whatever, whatever. Apparently, Pinball Brothers is doing Fifth Element. That's a game theme that I would like to enjoy provided it has all the assets which is exactly what Predator didn't. So again, cautiously optimistic. I think if it were to come out and I put a deposit down I would probably definitely see it before Back to the Future. But again, it's the same kind of thing. It's a European company. I don't know when they're manufacturing or how fast they can do it. I don't know what tariffs are going to be. I'd have to put down a deposit and then I don't know when I'm going to get it. If you want to get one, info at madpinball.com, get on the list for whatever the next game is. I mean, like, yeah, it's another thing where I hope they make a bunch of them so that at some point, you know, once the game's out and we know how well it's holding up, what's in the code and all that business, I can then go in with, you know, full knowledge of what to expect and then I can maybe pick it up on the secondhand market. Best I can say, love the theme, wish Barrels of Fun was doing it, but that is what it is. It's not multimorphic doing it. But it's, can you imagine Fifth Element with a gobble hole that would just kill you? I can't get over Drained, man. It scarred me. I want to get a Drained tattoo. I don't have any pinball tattoos. I think Drained's gobble hole is the one that I would get. I don't have a location for it yet. TBD. Oh, I've got to get a tattoo of Pinhead, the Hell Priest, playing Drained. So does anybody know any pinball artists? If you could draw that up and get it to me, I will get that tattoo. That sounds amazing. I love that idea.
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    We're done with P. Let's do Ramps. Let's do Ramps Pinball Company. Remember them? I remember. So Ramps Pinball Company was Tilt Bob until somebody else registered Tilt Bob, so they had to change their name to Ramps. They showed up at Pinball at the Beach a year ago, not this prior one, but the one prior to that, with Ramps Road Trip, and we've heard exactly nothing since then. To their credit, they brought this game to a show, let people play it, especially Pinball Loudmouth, who gave them feedback of exactly what they felt playing the game. And they seemed mixed on if they appreciated the feedback. One guy seemed to really appreciate it, another guy really didn't seem to at all. Apparently they bought some manufacturing machines like over a year ago to be able to kind of garage build these games, including Ramps Road Trip. I haven't seen hide nor hair of that raccoon since then. I've seen a game with a turntable. I've seen a game with a rotating stairway with Harry Potter that seemed to do what Ramps' game was doing only better. It didn't seem like it was ready for prime time. It did have a nice powder coat. So supposedly they've inked a deal with your friend and mine, Jake Danzig, for his head-to-head Mutant League hockey, Monster League hockey game. And maybe they're going to make 100 of them and maybe that'll happen at some point. I don't know what they're waiting on, man. I don't know they're not waiting on licensing approval because that's all done. I know they're going to have to pull out all that cool music but probably leave a backdoor way to put it back in there. I know a lot of cool people worked on this game. And there's a lot of people that have signed up to get themselves one. But, again, haven't heard hide nor hair of the raccoon company at all or when this game's coming out. And with the onslaught of stuff that's coming at us, like, would you go and get a ramps road trip over Transformers right now? Like, no, I'd totally rather have Transformers. I just don't think there's any real space for that game commercially. Commercially. I think within the enthusiast circle, and it shows, I think it definitely deserves a place there. I'd love to see that game finished. That game has plastic cow drop targets. That's super fun. I like cows in pinball. I like goats in pinball. I think there should be more barnyard animals in pinball machines. So there we go. I was thinking of like a sheep in a gobble hole. Like how could I, how could I merge those two together? Man, I got gobbles on the mind. Gobbles on the mind. So ramps, I don't know. Spooky Pinball, we'll skip that one. All right, we'll talk about Spooky Pinball. So Spooky Pinball, kind of, I don't want to jinx nothing, man. I don't want to jinx nothing what they're doing. Beetlejuice came out and I was telling them, Like this game is probably going to sound like this It looks like there Reggie Arts on it a great theme people have been asking for a lot of fun stuff to do in the game The feedback been completely incredible by people that have it and have played it And they're gone. You can't get one. And if you want one, you're going to have to pay thousands over. And that's just how it is. And it's Beetlejuice. And I've peaked a little bit at the next game. And I'm just going to say like same. You know, if you look, like, I can't reveal anything at all, really, other than I like it. And that's, like, I'm not shilling it, man. Like, if the game sucked and I was hyping it up, like, dude, this is the best game, you need to get one, like, that would be totally shilly. I don't care if you buy it or not. I'm going to get one. I'm maybe going to get two because I know it's going to sell out. And I know I'm going to have a good friend that's like, dude, there's got to be something you can do to get me one. And I can be like, all right, I got two deposits. Here's one. Maybe, maybe. Not to flip for it, but just to hook up a homie.
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    I don't know how many they're making. I don't know what the price is going to be. I don't know the release date, but damn, man. So if you were to take Evil Dead and Beetlejuice and put them side by side with the next one, it would be able to hang, man. It would definitely be able to hang there. Yeah, and if you don't have a spooky corner, think about it. Get on a list. Get on ten lists right now. But I think we're going to see that at some point. I can't wait to put together a release party bigger than the last one, man. God, that was so much fun. We're going to do it again. I don't know the details of it. But if you've got suggestions for how to make a pinball midnight launch party completely phenomenal, please let me know, man. The party planning committee is in active discussions right now. So if you want to get your idea in on that party, let me know. Bring it. But as far as anything else coming from them, I think they have another new product or two to announce. It's not a pinball machine here sometime in the near term. So watch for that. Watch for that. But guys are doing their thing. You've seen what they do. They're interested in continuing that, the best I can say. So yay, yay, spooky if you're into that. What else do we got? Stern Pinball, never heard of him. So Stern, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't matter what I think. They're going to do what they do no matter what. But I'm looking around my pinball lineup here, my main lineup that's downstairs here. I've got Stern, Star Wars, Stern, Munsters, a couple of Spookies, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Looney Tunes. I got Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was my movie in high school, man. I wore that tape out. I had the soundtrack, the screenplay. I used to read that. When I was in speech and debate, I would just do oratories from Pulp Fiction. That's my game. I had to have it. And then we have Stern, Stern, Stern, Dungeons & Dragons LE, WrestleMania Gold, Stranger Things over there. I got a Black Knight Sword of Rage upstairs. So, like, I like Stern machines quite a bit. I like Transformers. I'll go down a record. It's fun. I do feel something's missing in the back or left corner with Optimus there. He does look a little weird to me. He wouldn't look that weird if he transformed, which is, I think, what he was initially supposed to do. But if I was making that game with a non-transforming Optimus, I think I'd pick a better pose. I think I'd pick a mech that looks like the G1 original toy. That would have been completely badass. Imagine if Optimus Prime was like in an attack, like mid-attack. He's running at you, his gun is outstretched, and when you hit the drop targets underneath him, like his blaster gun would flash different colors. I think that'd be super fun, man. He doesn't need to be articulated. He could be. But, you know, I think if I was going to do it with a static Optimus, I just think I would have done it better than Chicken Dance Optimus. And I don't know why we're bashing him in the shins like we're Nancy Kerrigan and he's, or no, like he's Nancy Kerrigan and we're Tonya Harding. I, Tonya. I don't know why we're doing throwbacks to I, Tonya back there in Transformers. Well, I'll say the code was super fun. I like the modes. I love the call-outs and stuff when your ball drains and you're getting ready to come back And it does that whole Autobots of Decepticon thing that the show would do when it was changing scenes. I love that. More of that, please. More of that. I think we'll see that same Optimus mech on the topper. I think he may transform up there.
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    But, you know, whatever. It's Transformers. So kind of half the people entered that know of this game, bought one. The other half the people are kind of like, what's next? They're waiting for this game to go out in location. They'll play it. The code's a fair bit better than Pokemon is. And will likely be that way for a while. Like for a good while.
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    But yeah, the game's fun. I'm saving my money for some of the rumored titles that are coming. But I'm not ruling out down the road, of course, trade deal. I'm perusing Pinside. I win Publishers Clearinghouse. I'll pick one up gladly. I'd love to play Transformers at home, man. It's going to be a good game. It'll be a fun game to play. What I would like to do is wait for code to mature, then get it at home, and then just like power play 400 times with the finished game code. I think that'll be super fun. I'm going to play it on location. I'm going to play it at TPF. I'm going to play it at Expo. I love me some Transformers. It's a fun game. Just wish Optimus did something. That's it. What's coming next for them? A whole bunch of crap because they're always releasing. I almost did another seminal thing, but no, I couldn't put seminal and release together. That's gross. Gross. So Fallout, I guess, from Keith Elwin, yes, great. Not a fan of the game, and I've never seen the show. I did do the walkthrough at Halloween Horror Nights. Culturally, I'm aware of Fallout. I did play a couple of the games, Fallout 76 and then the original one. It's like a tactical RPG shooter kind of game, collecting things or whatever. I don't know. It's fine. It's fine. But I like pinball, you know what? And I like video game themes and pinball. And from what I'm hearing, coming out of the licensing expo is the pinball companies like video game themes too. So I think we're going to continue to see more of them and more of like, you know, nostalgia movie and TV show properties. I'm here for that, man. So like rather than, you know, blow it all on Transformers right now, I think I'll keep this nest egg building and then just see like who's going to come out with like the next nostalgia property. Whoever's doing Thundercats is probably getting that Transformers money because hell yes. I'd be very interested in seeing what a G.I. Joe machine looks like. Thank you very much. Dungeon Crawler Carl, yes, please. Thank you. Halo, not so much. Never was a huge fan of that game, but again, I'll see what you have.
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    And then that Resident Evil game we'll get to here at the end. Stern Pinball, what else is coming out? I'm hearing Ozzy Osbourne by John Borg. I'm hearing he's also doing maybe ACDC this time. Can they just not redo a Steve Ritchie game because Steve's not there, so they're just making the Borg man have to work super hard and not take vacations? Just a churn out games. What's going on over there to that guy? And then I heard Elwin's next game because he's done with Fallout already and has been done with Fallout for six months. He's already working on a Star Trek, the original series, or Star Trek, the motion picture, or Rathacon, or some damn thing. I would personally love to see the next generation get a fair shot at a game with, you know, with the LCD screens the way we have them now. You know, get your assets. I would love to see the entire catalog of Star Trek The Next Generation in a pinball machine that I could play. Please, please. Something that holds up better to the Bally Williams one. I would love to see that. So far I haven't been able to sweet-talk a company into doing that. I don't know if it would be a huge seller. I would personally love it. But, yeah, I'm down with some Star Trek. Will it be a throwback, like 1960s-style game, like Bond 60th? I think that would be super fun. I would love to see Keith, since he is so prolific, do a Cornerstone release of the original series or Rathacon or movies, and then do a Bond 60th style, retro, classic, cool type game. I love Pulp Fiction. I love Bond 60th so much. I wouldn't mind seeing that again. So I think Star Trek would be the one to do it on. I think it would be the one to do it on. What are we going to see at Costco this fall? I don't know. I've heard Pokemon. I've heard Transformers. I've heard all kinds of stuff. Now the rumors seem to be swinging back towards Pokemon. I'm here and maybe they'll take the same layout as the Cornerstone game, dumb down the code a little bit I guess and put it out. I don't know. We'll see what happens there. Excited for Ozzy. Another ACDC. Eh. Remaster of Kiss. Eh.
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    And that's kind of like as far as I've been able to deduce. But I think we're good. I think we're good. We're tucked in for a good fall release from Stern. Maybe two. With a remake or some such. And we'll see what happens. Otherwise, still the same stuff. Where's the D&D topper? The D&D shooter rods a D20. Of course it is. But what are we seeing that? Who else are we waiting on accessories for? WrestleMania doesn't have a topper. I need to get on that. Dungeon Dragons definitely needs them. Transformers needs them. Pokemon needs them. Monsters. Hey, what is it going to take to redo the Monsters topper and just do $1,500 versions of that? But it's going for a lot of money. They're quite rare and they're not limited. And so just like you did with Black Knight Sword and Rage Toppers, why not do Munsters again? Why not do Munsters again? Hell, why not move Batman 66 over to Spike 3? Why not move Godzilla over to Spike 3 with the Gold Edition? Do that Gold Finger Bond Edition. All that's probably coming from Stern. We'll see what happens. They turn out a game every four months. It's always super fun. It's fun to go over there and play the new stuff and see all my friends and all that business. So hopefully that can continue in the future. What else do we got? Turner Pinball out also in Texas. Yukon Yetis will be starting to ship now scheduled, pencil it in for July. That's what I heard from the man himself just a few days ago. So anxiously awaiting my Yeti. I can't wait to bring it on down here. And then we're going to do a pinball tournament at the house, and I'll have Yukon Yeti in the tournament. And that may be one of the first times that that happens, and I would love to do that. So if you want to come to a Don tournament, let me know. It'll be fun, right? A little Yukon Yeti in the tournament over at Don's new arcade? I think it'd be super fun. And so I think he's still waiting on parts. That's what's holding up the production right now.
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    And probably a lot of other things. He's building a new building right now. I have friends that are building buildings. I know how long that process takes. And so he'll have some new factory space to be able to turn some games out. That's cool. What are we going to see next from him? Well, probably a lot of the same kind of sort of stuff we've been seeing. Will he stick with original titles or will he nail a license? That's what I have no idea, and he's pretty tight-lipped about that. So we'll see what the future holds. But Turner Pinball, Yukon, Getty, Whitewater 2 coming out July sounds like when it's going to ship as of a couple of days ago. That's what he told me. So we'll wait and anxiously see what Turner's bringing. I had Suncoast Pinball. They're already out of business. That leaves us with World Pinball here at the end. The people that are predominantly bringing us Resident Evil at some point, I guess, haven't heard anything about it other than there's a website that doesn't really take you or have any information on it anywhere. Is anybody going to buy this game? Is it really $20,000? It's a hard no from me, but I would like to see it exist. And, you know, if you're a high roller and want to have something that not a lot of people have, that's going to be it. So that's probably it for you. Pinball is super fun, man. I got the arcade up here. I'm playing all the games. I don't really want to see anything else leave my collection right now. I think I'm at a good spot. I'm waiting on Winchester. I'm waiting on finishing Beetlejuice. And what else? Yukon Yeti is coming in July. And then if I was to get anything else at this point, it might be Sonic. It might be Sonic. So we'll see what happens with it. I'm excited. I can't wait to see what's in this game. I definitely want to play this game ASAP. And if that's at the house that Jack built, great. If it's at Atterium, awesome. If it's in Tuscaloomia, Alabama, because that's where the first public location is, then hell, I guess I'm Alabama-y bound.
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