And it's really true. So many people have stopped us and said, we love your podcast. And if you guys are listening to this, man, we truly appreciate it. And we promise we have more episodes coming. You know, we've you guys have been busy. Yeah, we've been busy. We're going to do more than one a month. Let's talk about it right now. I'm going to. It's not enough. It's horseshit. It's not enough. I know. Want a little more. No, because I like I like a bro. Bro, do you talk pinball? Yeah, bro, do you even know pinball? Yeah. The Buffalo Pinball guy. Once a month. I want more. That's one of my fave- I love, I love those guys. Yeah, I love that podcast. Kevin's here. Kevin Meaney's here. Is he really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You haven't met him? No, I didn't see him. Kevin's awesome. I gotta, I gotta talk to him. Yeah. But definitely my, my, my favorite thing is the people, meeting people, again, that you've been in contact with, you know, emailed back and forth, and they've written in, and whenever we're doing the podcast, it does just feel like, you know, we're sitting in our bedroom or in some room in our house, right? We're hanging out and it's so weird like wow people like they're actually listening people listen yeah it feels really good it's so awesome to meet all those people like it I'm I'm so grateful for the people that say like hey hey Rachel hey you know yeah but hanging out with with the folks is always the best part of Expo I think to the thing that's cool like you can't underestimate the power of the YouTube algorithm like there's people that probably watch lots of pinball content right people that You have the people that know what electric who electric pad is but you have to also think there's people that are watching other content and it's your content is gonna get recommended to them so like that reach can be really big okay no like yeah like I I don't I actually think you guys didn't tell me you were doing the podcast I think it just said like up next and it was you guys and I was like oh crap I didn't know they did the podcast and then of course I do now but like yeah so well well thank you Google or whoever's doing that it's true Alphabet yeah I mean think about it there are people I do I'm not gonna say this, maybe I'm the only freak that does this, but sometimes I'll just type into YouTube pinball and say show me the last seven days. So you'll see every single thing that got published about pinball in the last seven days. And if you did a podcast, your thing's coming up. You know what I mean? Our wormhole's coming up. So yeah, I mean it's awesome. So yeah, more pinball content the better is good. I don't know if I have like one, I don't want to be repetitive and say what you guys are saying, I think for me, that Stern tour we did months back for John Wick, I met a lot of people through that. And then we were kind of messaging through Messenger and other things. And so now they've sort of become friends. So it's cool to see them here now and expand that network of people I know within the pinball community. It's like summer camp, but a couple times a year. You get to see your friends back. You know, like, oh, what have you done since then? It's just like a crazy, I don't know, like, even when I talk to you, I didn't even say this, actually. Actually, you know what was kind of interesting? I'll say this. This was actually cool. The, the Turner, no, not, is it Turner Pinball? Yeah, Turner Pinball, right? Ninja Eclipse? Yeah. Like, that guy last year came here with a, with a, with a very innovative cabinet, and then basically the whole pinball community pooped on it and said, we want a coin door, we want a regular cabinet. Yeah. But, and I talked to him about that a little bit. I was like, how'd that, like, make you feel, right? I was like, that must have been tough. He's like, you know, it was tough. But but like I know he's like, I guess I didn't even understand how much that meant to people that if they were going to buy this game and put it in a lineup with other games, like even if they liked the game, they want it to look like it belongs with the other games. Right. And so like, I don't know, he's I felt like he had come a long way. There were some things that he had to like, obviously maneuver around costs like he had some he had some sculpts that were like, I don't know, there was like this Japanese looking building. Yes. Is that not in those now a plastic? OK. But he kind of Special Thanks to JP Toot, I'm sorry, not a thousand, sorry, you're right. Oh, a hundred. Wow, that's going to be super rare. It's a hundred. So he's got, I think he's at like 90 something. I think he said he's close. That's fantastic. Yeah. So it's cool, you know? And he's such a nice guy. But he said something that I think sometimes people that do shows like this or like yours don't realize, like if you go in really hard on something and you never played it, right? Like this community is so small that it just like kind of migrates everywhere and it becomes is almost like this like virus of like that game sucks or whatever it is there's no guns in wick yeah like something like that and it goes fast yeah isn't it wild but it can really impact some of these companies but i think people don't realize the power in that and i not saying that people should censor themselves but maybe the delivery of that information could be a little bit more like um like maybe how a news reporter would do it Like it it information and then like you go play it and you can kind of come to your own conclusion Let's, let's go back and talk about one, one of the one up arcade thing and I'm really sorry. I didn't know what the hell was going on and I think it's going to be great. There you go. Actually shit, did we do that on this show? I am very, looking very forward to what's going on. Next year's gonna be awesome. Yeah. One up. We're all gonna be in a three hour line for the White Rabbit. The White Rabbit. You know what though, I will say this. None of us said that, like, well there wasn't anything to say was crap because it didn't have a game. Like there's no game to play. Right, right. It's literally black. But I think it is good criticism to say, if you're gonna come to a show like this where you know there's all these pinball enthusiasts, and these aren't like fly-by-night casual players. The people that come here are hardcore. We're here to talk about the best foot forward in a situation like this. 100%. I'm sorry, I brought it back up. No, no, it's smart. That is why we're here. We're working things out. It'd be like you guys opening up an electric bat and having a bunch of broken games in it. People are going to go, cool, I'm never going back there. Right. But that gives us the chance to fix it. You know, I like, yeah, the internet and the fact that everybody has a voice is a double-edged sword. Yeah. But, man, you know, we're not going to put the genie back in the bottle. Yeah. Right? People are going to say what they want to say. Exactly. They're going to say what they're going to say. And I think, you know, the manufacturers just need to listen to it and actually act on it. And it seems like that's what Turner did. Yeah. And I think when the criticism starts to get nasty, it's usually because people keep repeating the same thing and nothing's changing. Yeah. That actually kind of gets justified at that point because you're like, we've been telling you. Like our voices are loud. We've been telling you and nothing's changing. Yeah. And I think most of these, the majority of these companies actually do try to listen to that stuff. For sure. It feels that way, especially with like code updates and things if there's something not quite working right. Yeah. Speaking of companies listening, Rachel and I got to do something that I think a lot of people don't know about. Stern invited us to an operator meeting. Oh, very cool. And it was a, there were, man, there were a ton of operators in there. Maybe like 25 or something. Yes, filled the conference room and we met with Seth and the whole, Gary, George, the whole crew, Oh, that's great! Yeah! Right! Like as operators, what features would be valuable to us? Yeah. And we sat down and they wrote down... we watched it happen. They wrote down a whole list and then we prioritized it for them. Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. Oh, no way! That's awesome. So cool. And well, go ahead. Well, I was going to say that the next slide was, here's what we thought you might want. The next slide was here's what we thought you might want and it was like a list of you know prioritization of different stuff and it was interesting how much there was like there was there was some agreement and some things were very made a lot of sense and some stuff were like yeah no that doesn't really matter to us so like okay cool like let's we'll we'll put that further down the list and so that was like very very much this is stuff that's gonna roll out in the next week We're going to see this change. And this is feedback that we've taken from our, you know, not just what Cale and I think, but these were all operators that had, you know, fingers and a lot of stuff. How many were in the room with you guys? I think there was about 25 to 30 people. There was a ton. Yeah. We snuck off to a secret meeting. The coolest part, I mean, the coolest part was them listening and actually caring. The Out Pinball Podcast is a production of the Center for Autism and Related Disorders, LLC. The thing that's going to be great, you're going to be able to share your badges to social. No more screen grabs and then it's going to be built in. They want to bring a social aspect to Insider Connected. We were talking last night over dinner and said, I think it'd be cool if when I... Because I can follow you right now on Insider Connected and you have no idea I followed you. But it would be kind of cool to say like, hey, Ralph just followed you and you might want to follow me back. You know, or you might want to authorize the follow, I don't know. Exactly. If you want to like shut, turn, you know, be a little more private. And they went over that. There's a lot of privacy concerns that they are sensitive to. But we don't want, you know, Kale's fans to know exactly where he is at all times. Like I just logged in at Wormhole. I just logged in at Wormhole and then this flock of people coming to Wormhole. Right. It's dangerous for us. So, so let me, I just want to, this is just like kind of a summary of what you just said. So you guys basically got a chance to do like a brainstorming session of what you all want. And that's so, but they didn't share their roadmap before. So you weren't influenced by their roadmap. They kind of wanted to see how close are you guys to them. And then maybe they might reprioritize based on that's actually really cool. Yes. I mean, we live prior, like we. Taylor, Taylor was sitting right there with her laptop, running the whole thing. Taylor Bancroft. Is she still Bancroft? She got married recently. Yeah, I don't know, but we know who she is. Taylor. Yeah, Taylor. And she was doing everything live. We, I mean, we were there. We were part of this group that, that is, you know, molding inside of connected. Awesome. Before we wrap, there was something we did. We did not talk about spooky at all. And there was a question there about that. Anyone play Looney? I know Looney, Looney Tunes isn't the newest one. Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Well, they can't do the same game. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, we have a Looney Tunes. So what do you got? I mean, I don't know. I played Looney, it was the first time, I'd only played Texas Chainsaw, so I played Looney a couple of times and I got to meet Bug and it was really nice, I enjoyed it. I think Looney, I haven't played Texas Chainsaw, but I think Looney Tunes is their best game yet. Most people would say TNA, but I consider TNA a Scott Danesi game and Spooky like brought it to the public. But I think this is, I mean, they're learning. You can tell with every game they're learning and they're changing. There are a lot of software issues with it. It's super glitchy. I mean, we're operating one. So we see a lot of stuff that the homeowner's not gonna see. But they reached out to us when they heard we were having problems. Now we have a direct line with them and we're helping them work things out. But it's very cool. One incredible thing. Do you guys remember the episode of Looney Tunes with the opera singer? Yeah, sure. It goes, haaa! So there's a mode and it does that for like two minutes straight. And I thought something was wrong with the game. Did you hear that? Yes. I ran over to it. Our friend Walter's playing. I was like, is something, is the machine locked up? It's just like, haaa! And he's like laughing. He's like, no, look, it's still working. So they're doing really funny, funny stuff. And I'm glad there's a company out there that's doing like just crazy shit. And I love their attitude. Like whenever we had those issues, they were very quick to reach out to us and they like they really care about solutions and making the very best game that they can make. And I like that. I love that. That means a lot to me. Kill the Wabbit. Yeah. Alright, well, I, um, we could probably talk for even longer. Yeah. I'm thinking about it now. There's a Starbucks right here, right around the corner. You want some more caffeine? No, no, I'm good. I'm just thinking about all the other things now that, but, uh, you know what, we'll have to do another session where we talk about, you know, because there's some things there that are at the show that I think get less attention that are, I'd love to get takes on, like, I know P3 Multimorphic's been out for a while, I did finally play it a little bit. Which one did you play? Final Resistance or did you play? We played both Final Resistance and then Princess Bride. So, you know, I have some opinions on like from a, but we'll cover, I just think basic level from a technology perspective, I find it interesting with the idea and concept. There's some cool creative things like magnetic side art, like all of that's pretty cool. But we'll have to talk about that another time. Yeah, no worries. Yeah. It's the music and the Princess Bride puts me to sleep. That's the only problem. You know what? It's the only issue. Like I don't need harps when I'm playing. Right. That's it. I love people. I want to go check it out. I haven't played it yet, but I want to play Drained. Have you seen that module? I have seen the module. Very cool looking. But I have not played it. It's the one that looks like Edward Gorey art. So it's like black and white pen art. It's one of their earlier ones. I think it was like right after Hype. A couple years ago. Yeah. Yeah, it came out. I would love to play that too. I played Weird Al. I played Princess Bride. And then the one that's like, isn't it supposed to be like the spiritual successor to Total Oh, yeah, Scott Danesi's latest. Final Resistance. Final Resistance, yeah. Final Resistance is fantastic. Do they have that on the floor? Yeah. Oh, we have to play it. That one was pretty cool, actually. I liked that. The only problem I had was, I don't know, maybe I was just really tired. I felt like I couldn't see. I had to kind of play a little crouch down to see those shots underneath that thing. Maybe that's just, I was really tired at the time. Yeah. And you're tall, also. You're a tall guy. See? All right. Well, that's it. Well, compared to some other pinball content creators, I am a little bit. Right, right. No, I'm just kidding. Is that stupid? Anyways, I met him last night, so. Oh, you did? I was like, man, Scott's really short. Yeah, right? That's the first thing. I was like, man. I've seen him in person before, so I knew. I was like, man, you got a lot of bark for a short guy, but all right. Yeah, yeah. I was like, all right. I'm no longer intimidated. Right. All right, so sorry, bud. No worries. So, that's it. All right. Thanks, guys. I think we're good. I think we're done. I appreciate you guys joining. This was fun. I'm probably so much like there was some issues with the stream audio. So what I'm going to do is that just so everyone can hear this the proper way, I'll reupload it later on as its own thing. Maybe later on today, a little compression on it and all that stuff. Yeah, get it right. So so yeah, but the stream was a little bit of a last minute thing. So thank you, everybody who joined. You guys so much. That was great. Ralph, thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Closing things. Anything you want to plug talk about real quick. Wormhole. We have a stream next weekend. It's our biggest event of the year. It's a charity event for our charity, which Wormhole is a 501c3. And it's called the Bayou Bash. There's actually two tickets available. And it's a two-day event with lots of Whoppers. And it's a total costume party. So it's a Halloween. Everyone dresses to the nines. And we'll stream two days of that. And that'll be fun to watch someone dresses Dracula play Dracula. That's awesome. We actually have a ramp stroke there. So that's our poke. We have the Electric Bat 6th Anniversary Bash coming up and it is on November 2nd is Saturday. We also have a tournament, a pre-tournament on Friday, finals on Sunday with some consolation and some additional tournaments. There are tickets available for that. You can, it's limited so we're getting close to being sold out on that. You can go to electricbatarcade.com. Find out info about that. Sweet, I'm gonna go to that. Yep. I know I keep saying them, I mean this one I'm going to. Yeah, yeah. Excellent. And follow News on Instagram, Electric Bat Arcade, follow us on Instagram, that's... Yeah, definitely. We're all over. Yeah, this is... Wormhole Pinball. Okay, Wormhole Pinball. Are you on Instagram? You're not. I am, I am. No, I've messaged you, I've shared your stuff, and I don't hear anything. I check my DMs. Cause Instagram's like the one thing I don't do. I need to get on it. Unfortunately, you're gonna have to get on that. I know, I guess. Yeah. I do like, I do a little TikTok, I do, you know, Facebook, I do YouTube, now the Spotify. Are you getting anything out of TikTok? We're getting more TikTok now. Really? It's totally weird. Like, we'll get 500 and then 1,500 or 2,000. It's like bots, right? You're a guy's friend. I got, I'm like, he's got this formula, man. Like, I don't know. Oh, Co? Co? You talking about Co? I need to be like, I need the spot in the thing. Yeah. I'm just gonna be like, I'm Retro Ralph. You know, like, it's the thing, it's the dramatic, it's the freaking spot. That's my boy, dude. Yeah, yeah. Nobody has the freaking spot. I hate that. He's got the spot, he's got the whole ArtStyleMysteries thing going on. When he's coming in, I'm like... It's so good. I know he's gonna land on that spot every time and then... So... He's got it. I discovered him. He's killing it. He's fucking killing it. So I was on Instagram. I'm not, I'm being serious. He is crushing it. Oh, no, I know, dude. Listen. No, listen. I love him so much, I put him on my podcast. I was on Instagram and I saw this guy pop up and I was like, is this even real? This looks like AI. You know? And then I- Rachel, come look at this. Is this real? I kept getting into it and I started sending him messages and he's responding. I was like, this is a real dude. Yeah. You know? And then, you know, we became online buddies and I turned them on to Wormhole and- Yeah, we interviewed him and then I'm like, this guy's really smart. He's really great. It's co but what is... Quarter Drop Arcade. Quarter Drop Arcade on Instagram and YouTube Shorts and TikTok. But Instagram is where he's blowing up mostly. Yeah. No, killing it. So alright, one last thing, fast, rapid fast. Fast, fast. This is the last thing. I am Italian, I don't say goodbye, take me 5,000 hours. So this podcast will go forever, everything will die, batteries will power down. But we gotta wrap it up. So this is fast and you can't take too long. Okay. This was a question someone asked. What IP would you want to see turn into a pinball that you just want? And you don't, whether it's possible or not. We have the same one. Just, okay. Go ahead. I'll do the first part, you do the second. Alright. Yo. Joe. GI Joe. Absolutely. Oh, dude, yes! We absolutely have the exact same one. And I'll tell you what, this would be amazing. Actually, it was one of the titles included on Stern's survey. Did you get the survey? I hadn't taken it, but... I took the survey, it was on there, GI Joe. Joe Kaminkow, Automated Amusements, raydaypinball.com, The stories there, the art, can you imagine what Zombietti could do with this artwork? And most importantly, the fans are Jamie and I's age. Yeah, I mean I'm buying it. And we got money, we got money to buy these things. I watched a shitload of G.I. Joe. Oh my god, dude. And the G.I. Joe movie, remember the animated, not the original. The rock shit. Not that one. We're geeking out a little too hard. Go, go, okay, you go. You said fast. Masters of the Universe. Oh, it's supposedly that license is up for sale. There are some... Oh man, we're never going to... Because you just said the thing, there's so many places we could go with that now. Yeah. Well, we... It's probably never going to happen. We have some information about that. See you later. Yeah. You know, mine still would be, I want a proper modern Back to the Future. I really do. And I know that that's supposedly Dutch, has it, whatever. I don't know, I just can't get into the old Back to the Future. I want it done the right way. Get me a killer DeLorean on there, incorporate the flux capacitor. You could do something like lock the balls in the flux capacitor. A giant amplifier with a guitar, blowing them across the room. Imagine the audio on that, if you could get the Huey Lewis and the News stuff. Gotta get Van Halen though, when he puts the thing on the start. Oh my gosh, that would be, that, yes! Yeah, yeah. Like there's so many cool scenes in that too. But, now I want to know what's going on with that. What do you guys know about Masters of the Universe? Like I know the thing, the rumor that was going around for a while. We can't, we're gonna get, is it, is it, is this gonna be too long? I think, I think Knapp Arcade touched on it. You guys gotta get back to the show. So go check out KnappArcade.com. He wrote a little something, he, he found out something, so. Yeah, this morning. Yeah. I've been in like this, like, I, I tried to like just focus on this and not do anything else, so I, so did you just say a recent article he wrote? I've been in like this like I tried to like just focus on this and not do anything else so I mean so did this a recent article he wrote yeah yeah just yeah yeah well we'll check that out and then we will talk about that on the flip side so I think we're good any last words or no thank you so much thank you so much for letting me sit in I'm honored that everyone wanted to do it it took a little coordinating but uh but we did it thank you Ralph yeah all right all right guys well we'll see you next time. Thanks for tuning in and I'll see you on the flip side.