Which is basically a golf format. Right. Like high stakes. The tradition continues. Yes. It's the only space. How much, is it close to like a hundred dollars or something to get into that? Somewhat. Plus you're already in Vegas. So how much have you already spent to get over there? That's true. Woohoo! Not just that. So we have we have the Papa Crew are streaming the Louisville Arcade Expo and then we had Karl, Karl DeAngelo, and his set up was at Vegas. I hope one of these days Karl will get in front of the green screen and actually do like the weather. Just out of nowhere. Exactly, that'd be funnier than hell. He just comes up and says, your tournament weather for today in Vegas is... and then he just throws up like some photoshops of whirlwind or something or like if meteors fall from the sky back to you so our women's champion was uh karen k-a-r-y-n kaiser she beat uh hannah hatch in the women's world championship finals congratulations karen The Winner of the Nationals is our own friend of the show, Raymond Davidson. He wins again. It's like he won the IPA and now he wins everything. He is a man on a mission. Well, he's a man on a mission. And of course, second place is Karl DeAngelo, friend of the show. Hi, Karl. And third was Colin McAlpine, and we need to get him on. Have you been contacting him? I actually contacted him a couple of times and he never got back to me. Come on, Colin. Prove me wrong. We are the podcast of champions. Yes, we are the only ones that talk about professional pinball like this. And then we had the pinmasters, which in the finals, and I'm sure Jeff Teolis would love to say this, you had three Pinburgh winners and Josh Sharp. Wow. I was looking at that, it's like, damn, you know, I'm sure Jeff Teolis would say something about this. You would think. And the winner was Adam Becker. He did. Who said he hates pin golf. That's what he said, I hate pin golf. Yeah, that ruled. So that went on and they were, it was cool because they were streaming. They would have two rounds per day for the golf. They had rounds on, I think it was Friday. They'd have one at one o'clock and one at six o'clock and they play only nine holes, thank God. You can only imagine playing 18 holes in one day. That's what I was about to say, it's not 18, is it? No, no. And then Saturday they would play another nine at one o'clock and six o'clock. So that's your front nine and your back nine. And then the playoffs were on Sunday. Now Louisville, they did the deal where they did some of the finals around Saturday night. Right. Very important. Very, very, because people got flights to catch on Sunday. I mean that's part of that. At least you can get a round done so that, you know, on Sunday when you kind of have to leave when the show is over, or close to it, you know, you have that first round done. Which of course means the goal is don't play in the first round, get that first round by. If you can, that makes the top eight that much more important. So how did you do? Did you get that first round by? I did. I did get it. I almost didn't get it because what I did was I was playing classics and main. And so I was in the classics final. And as I was bombing out of the classics final, I was dropping in the main. So I was in seventh, seventh, eighth, eighth, you know. So right as I was bombing out of the classics and I knew I wasn't going to move on, I queued myself for a game I needed in the main. So by the time it was finished, I would move up in line to where I would be able to jump on a game reasonably quickly. And that game was World Poker Tour. So, you know, so I kind of knew what was going on there. So I was, you know, I split my time. That almost cost me, but, you know, I was able to get my buyback. So I finished in second position. Andy Rosehood qualified first. Mmm, nice. And so, yeah, so I would add my game on, uh, World Poker Tour vaulted me into first from eighth, and then Andy sniped me at the end and took the, uh, took the game choice. Which is definitely important because the games I would have chosen were, would be totally, were totally different from the games that he would have chosen in the finals, since one and two would probably be in the final. So, since he had choice, yeah, he definitely chose some games I probably would not have chosen. So, World Poker Tour, I was one week behind on that. Because Bowen did a pop-up tutorial of that, like the week after the tournament. When I was like, damn, there we go. Of course, I think I forgot most of what he said already, unfortunately. What's your name? No, no, you don't have to remember, do the stack, do the magic stack. I'm going to go back. Change gears, change gears, multiball, easy in the hole, flail around and 50 million. Flail around I can do that. Yep, cause you flail around at the top and you're just getting points for no reason. And then you go to the bottom and make a shot , you get points, you make the up kicker you get points for that, and then more points upstairs. And then you just flail around and you wake up and you have 60 million. Wow, it sounds so easy! I am so ready. You might not do it. Don't do it. Screw it up. Who won classics? Who did win classics? I forgot who won classics. Man, I thought the person who was there would know, but I guess I wasn't. You won the other tournament. I had bombed out. I ran the other tournaments. I didn't care. Oh, damn. Did not care. I didn't. Alright, somebody won classics. Billy Joe Bob Smith. Bob's been, well, Papa, right as that tournament was starting, they released an update to their app, the Pop app, which confused me. It's like, what am I using this for? There's not going to be Papa this year, unfortunately. So what is this for? And then it's like, oh, it's for the Louisville Arcade Expo. So you would think I could find it on their site, but I have not found it there either. Jesus. Why is this so hard to find results? Uh, okay. I guess it's so soon after. Yeah, it's so soon after. Okay, I got it, I got it. So... Oh, it wants me to log in. No, I don't want to log in, I just want results. Hey, let me go to the app. I got it. Classics tournament results, and the winner is... it doesn't say, it just has the, um, qualifying. Bum bum ba dumm! Yeah, classics tournament results, yeah, it just doesn't have... yeah, right. So congratulations to the classics winner, whoever you may be, because I can't find the results. Excellent. Fail. But Steve, you ended up in the final four. Did, yep. You had a father-son team against you. Really, yeah. Both the Roses and Chris Bassler were there in the final with me after I had struggled to come back from basically being out of the tournament twice earlier on. I don't know how I made it to the final. Because you were like a three-way playoff or something like that? Yeah, really. A three-way playoff at four. Because I'm sitting there and I'm like, there's no way. Yeah, let me check. Let me make sure. Yeah, this is round one. And I'm going to go to round two, which was the first round on Sunday. And yeah, it's like when I think four points, I think out. But no, it was a three-way tie at four. And then, and it's like 9-4-4-4. It doesn't even make sense. But it happened. And so I had the seed, so I had the choice. So it became, okay, what am I going to pick against these players? So, I mean, given the games that I, that, that were there, it wasn't kind of even easy process of elimination. I mean, there were games that, like, like, for example, Shaq Attack was there, you know, as we, as we saw. So I could, but I could play Shaq Attack very well. I'm not going to risk that, so I crossed that off the list. I had already played ACDC and Junkyard already, and I already played World of Poker Tour and crossed those off the list. Firepower was there, but I crossed that off the list because Michael Dawn, the third player The time breaker had 800,000 on it. Don't forget that. Then it was Mustang. Just forget that entirely. You know, because I didn't really want to deal with super fast targets breaking off the center and, you know, just, no. And so that left the Flintstones, a game I could do moderately well in. And so that's what I picked. And I used that to move on. Officially endorsed by Francesco. Yeah, you're right. You're exactly right. Look up Francesco's review of the Flintstones and you'll see his qualified opinion. Flintstones. The Flintstones. I thought that was an interesting playfield. The thing that always annoyed me was the music. I want to shoot myself in the head after listening to that music for more than five minutes. What do you mean? Like the main theme or the game? The game play theme. The one that sounds like a cartoon. Yeah, the gameplay theme, the one that sounds like you're in an episode. Yeah, of the cartoon, yeah. I want it to end. Pronto. There's one of the few games I would wear headphones. Noise cancelling headphones with no sound. Just like that. Get the strike! Get the strike! Square. Okay. The last game it was F-14 Tomcat. 14, yeah. Because I completely bombed out the first game, which, well actually I didn't. The first game was Surfers Safari, which I picked the previous round just so I could practice on it because I knew Andy was going to pick it. Now wait a minute, Surfers Safari, F14, were these like Papa games? I guess so. I don't know. I'm wondering, did they actually bring these down? Because these sound like the same ones. I think they just bring a couple, yes. Because like the shack attack I've seen before in their tournaments, the F14 Tomcat makes its way all over the place. And the Surfers Safari, yeah. Right, so I played Surface Safari and did pretty well in it, but finished in fourth with like over 20 million I think, because everybody else destroyed it too. And so, yeah, and then I went over to Shack Attack because that's what Andy was picking. We knew what Andy was picking because he was picking that the whole game, the whole way through, and actually won that one, and then took that into the final F-14. And Chris just had a great game on it. And he basically went through about a lap and a half of the jackpots and got about 3 million. And it was a huge mountain to claw back from. But I was able to get enough points to get second, so that was good. Plus, you didn't get a chance on your third ball, if I remember. It was like insta-drain. Yeah, the angle I did not see. And if I tried to move it, I probably would have tilted anyway. But it was a perfect off the sidewall, and I thought it was safe. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. We had a Shaq in town, it sucked. Shaq's fine. Ugh. I'm used to playing Shaq. Shaq's cool. Ugh. Especially since we... like finding the hidden features and seeing if you can get those huge godly bonuses and stuff. Yeah, that's a problem. I've lost for those hidden features, that's why. You gotta find him. No, I had him, and then he came back on me with the same hidden features, so I was like errrrrrrrr. That's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen on a D&D. Hidden feature bonus or whatever. It's like a hidden feature but what? It's a screen. It's a weird like billboard that they're in an audience and he's holding like a billboard. It says hidden feature number two. You selected 5,000 twice on the mystery. Take 10 million! You know? It's like okay. And then there's 10 million, then 30 million, then 100 million, then 300 million, and then I've never seen the billion, which is all five hidden futures. You get one billion in bonus. And the reason is because the hardest one is to start like all five modes at once to get to level five, which is essentially have all the modes running, which is really hard. So, you know, we thought, we thought Andy was going to do it because Andy put up like 7.7 Billion on his previous game before the final? Sick. He was getting slamming and jamming multiple times, multiball multiple times. It was huge. You know, it was ridiculous. You know, good thing he spent it all there. So, uh, I guess. I just love those games with the sports figures when they have no team. Right, yes. Just like, Jack. Just like Frank Thomas. It's just, you know. Frank Thomas. Big hurt. The Bigger! Yeah, we gave you the team. At least Frank Thomas has the, has the light-satch colors on it, I think, doesn't he? Yeah, yes he does. Yep. What does Michael Jordan have, like, it just says Space Jam, doesn't it? Right, yeah, just a space jam. And that one, and on the other one it does say it's number 23 on Michael Jordan pins. Well, at least with the NBA, Stern NBA, you get all the teams. Right, yeah, okay. And even the Williams NBA, yeah. Do you get players on Stern's NBA? Or is that the... NBA, like Milwaukee Bucks and that kind of stuff also. Okay. Yep. But is NBA Fastbreak when they mention the players? Yes. Yep. For three! For two! For one point! For two! Love NBA Fastbreak. Every ball should end in a tilt. Just remember that. Right. Unless it's in pinball scoring, which I haven't played NBA Fastbreak in a while. I've never played NBA Fastbreak. I've never seen one in pinball scoring. What's the point? It's like weird. How much is a basket worth? A million? A million and a half? Four, three, four, three, three million. So that was the tournament fun for this weekend, which was cool for me because I got to watch this while I was working on the cheetah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Passing the time. That'll be the repair section. Right now it's time for This Week in Pinball! Which we made the big time. We made the big time. We did. We're like the first story- well, almost. Second. Second. Well we're right on then. Star Wars Topper Info, Keith Elwin interview! Ooooooh. See Bruce, it was worth badgering him all these years. Finally getting him on. Decades. Even before we had the podcast, he tried to get them on the podcast. It was incredible.