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SDTM Episode 66: EPIC This Or That? (Pinball Collection Battles)

Straight Down the Middle·video·1h 2m·held·Jul 12, 2018
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TL;DR

Zach and Greg host an epic This or That pinball battle with community write-ins.

Summary

Straight Down the Middle Episode 66 features hosts Zach Sharpe and Greg conducting an extended "This or That" game where they pit pinball machines against each other and field write-in questions from the community. The episode covers matchups like Star Wars (Premium) vs. Iron Maiden: Legacy of the Beast The Beast (Premium), Batman 66 vs. Guardians of the Galaxy LE, Pirates of the Pirates of the Caribbean vs. Iron Maiden: Legacy of the Beast The Beast (Pro), and classic pins like Fathom vs. Centaur, with discussion focused on gameplay feel, rule depth, theme integration, and shooter satisfaction.

Key Claims

  • Star Wars (Premium) rules are not overly complex once you understand the three-bank targets multiplier system

    high confidence · Greg defending Star Wars against criticism that it has overly complex rules; claims it's straightforward after an hour of play

  • Star Wars (Premium) has better lighting effects than Iron Maiden, particularly in differentiating modes

    high confidence · Greg directly comparing light show quality between the two games, noting Iron Maiden can be blinding during lightsaber battles

  • Batman 66 Ultimate Lair code lacks story progression and mainly involves 'shoot the lit' for mini villains

    high confidence · Zach critiquing Batman 66's code structure despite acknowledging risk/reward mechanics and mini villain strategy

  • Guardians of the Galaxy LE has better mode differentiation and progression than Batman 66

    high confidence · Greg preferring Guardians over Batman 66 despite spending $1,000 on Batman mods, citing better progression and mode variety

  • Star Wars (Pro) Loop shot is worth the $1,500-$2,000 price premium over Star Wars (Premium)

    medium confidence · Zach arguing the Hyperspace shot justifies Pro cost despite earlier saying he hated Star Wars (Pro) at shows

  • Pirates of the Pirates of the Caribbean is Jersey Jack's closest approach to a full-package machine across aesthetics, toys, shooting, and code

    high confidence · Greg analyzing each JJP title (Wizard of Oz, Hobbit, Dialed In!!, Pirates) and their respective flaws; concluding Pirates is most complete

  • Lord of the Rings is one of the best coded pinball games ever made

    medium confidence · Zach unequivocally choosing Lord of the Rings over Hobbit despite preferring Hobbit's aesthetics, citing code quality as decisive factor

  • The Hobbit new code update makes it significantly more competitive with Lord of the Rings

    medium confidence · 8-bit Andy referencing ggp live Twitch coverage of Hobbit code update; mentioned as game-changer by hosts

Notable Quotes

  • “Star Wars premium if dialed in correctly maybe Steve Ritchie greatest shooting pin”

    Zach Sharpe @ ~23:30 — High praise for Star Wars as a design achievement, framing it in historical context of Steve Ritchie's legacy

  • “Batman 66 doesn't really have much different in the modes except for the penguin mode... give me a Guardians”

    Greg @ ~35:45 — Core critique of Batman 66's rule design leading to preference for Guardians despite liking Batman's aesthetics

  • “I bought Batman 66, dumped a thousand dollars worth of mods in it and I loved looking at it but I didn't press the start button as much as I did my Godzilla (Pro)”

    Greg @ ~32:00 — Stark admission that aesthetics and mods cannot overcome poor gameplay feel; signals market concern about Batman 66 replayability

  • “If I was stuck on an island and only had one pin to take, it would probably be Star Wars because Star Wars encompasses so much”

    food beer (quoted) @ ~27:15 — Third-party validation of Star Wars' comprehensive design across multiple dimensions of gameplay and theme

  • “Wizard of Oz is beautiful, Hobbit is spectacle but floaty, Dialed In!! shoots fantastic but theme sucks, Pirates tries to nail everything”

    Greg (summarizing) @ ~53:00 — Systematic analysis of Jersey Jack's design trade-offs; positions Pirates LE as most balanced offering

  • “Lord of the Rings is one of the best coded games ever”

    Zach Sharpe @ ~59:15 — Unqualified endorsement of LOTR's code as industry benchmark; influences decision over aesthetically superior Hobbit

  • “You cannot buy the Star Wars (Pro)... that shot is worth the extra 15 to $2,000”

    Zach Sharpe @ ~46:00 — Market positioning claim; suggests Star Wars Pro commands premium due to exclusive Hyperspace mechanic despite earlier criticism

  • “Multi balls on Star Wars are different... different objective. Guardians the galaxy all the way for me”

Entities

Zach SharpepersonGregpersonStern PinballcompanyJersey Jack PinballcompanyStar Wars (Premium)productIron Maiden Legacy Of The Beast (Premium)product

Signals

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Strong community and host preference for satisfying, addictive shot design; Star Wars praised for kinetic feel and shot variety; Batman 66 and Guardians compared on shooting quality despite other strengths

    high · Multiple references to 'fun to shoot', 'satisfying shots', and kinetic feel; Greg dumping $1k into Batman 66 mods but still preferring to play other machines due to shooting feel

  • ?

    product_concern: Dialed In and Pirates of the Caribbean criticized for theme-to-gameplay disconnect; Batman 66 questioned for shooting feel despite excellent theme integration

    high · Greg stating 'Dialed In shoots fantastic but the theme sucks... it doesn't matter if it looks like junk I don't want to ride it' and questioning why great rules don't always equal great playing experience

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Tension between complex, well-coded rule sets and accessible, satisfying shooting design; Lord of the Rings valued for code despite less appealing aesthetics; Star Wars praised for both but noted Star Wars Pro requires expensive Hyperspace feature

    high · Multiple games with great code but mediocre shooting (Batman 66, Metallica); Greg's analysis of Jersey Jack's design trade-offs showing no perfect machine

  • $

    market_signal: Hosts noting Star Wars Pro's $1,500-2,000 premium for Hyperspace Loop is difficult to justify; Pirates LE at $9,500 priced higher than Iron Maiden Pro Plus ($4,000); pricing concerns emerging as barrier to purchase

    high · Zach and Greg discussing Star Wars Pro cost multiple times; Greg noting Pirates LE is expensive and that Stern 'makes the best Pros for the cheapest'; Hosts considering financial constraints in machine choices

  • ?

Transcript

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you had a fling way the slingshot euro and a dog [Applause]
1:36
[Music] welcome to another episode of straight down the middle of pinball show this is my buddy Greg my name is Zach and this week what are we doing this or that another fan favorite this or that but but this but Stu is an epic this or that what an epic epic proportions yes why because we had a record number of write-ins we did we did good I don't even know if we're gonna take him of this you have a hard time sitting that long I do well I can't fly anywhere you can't drive anywhere let's face it is very true this is the guy on house arrest without being like how far will my bracelet he goes the pinball tournaments and he's like oh man I gotta get back

  • Steve Ritchie-designed machines are defined by 'balls to the wall' shooting pins with highly satisfying shots

    high confidence · Greg and Zach discussing Star Wars as potential Steve Ritchie greatest shooting pin, praising addictive shot design and kinetic feel

  • Batman 66 doesn't feel like a fun shooter despite excellent rule set and theme integration

    high confidence · Greg admitting to dumping $1,000 into Batman 66 mods but noting he pressed start less often than on Godzilla (Pro)

    • Greg @ ~40:30 — Multiball design differentiation between games; noted as undervalued aspect of Star Wars vs Guardians comparison

    Batman 66
    product
    Guardians of the Galaxy LEproduct
    Pirates of the Caribbean LEproduct
    The Hobbitproduct
    Lord of the Ringsproduct
    The Wizard of Ozproduct
    Dialed Inproduct
    Steve Ritchieperson
    food beerperson
    Fathomproduct
    Centaurproduct
    Tronproduct
    Metallicaproduct
    AC/DCproduct
    Baywatchproduct
    Starship Troopersproduct
    8-bit Andyperson
    Straight Down the Middleorganization

    code_update: The Hobbit's new code with Final Episode update referenced as significant competitive upgrade; implies ongoing software support model affecting machine value and player engagement

    medium · 8-bit Andy referencing ggp live Twitch coverage of Hobbit code update; hosts noting this makes Hobbit more competitive with Lord of the Rings

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Star Wars positioned as quintessential Steve Ritchie shooting pin; hosts gravitating toward 'balls to the wall' shooting design philosophy; older Ritchie games cited as gold standard for satisfying shot design

    high · Multiple references to Star Wars as 'Steve Ritchie's greatest shooting pin' and 'balls to the wall shooting'; nostalgia for older Ritchie machines; shooting satisfaction framed as design era characteristic

  • ?

    product_strategy: Clear market segmentation in premium vs. Pro vs. LE tiers; Pro versions justified by exclusive features (Hyperspace on Star Wars) but pricing creates barriers; LE machines positioned as complete packages

    high · Star Wars Pro exclusive Hyperspace Loop; Pirates LE as JJP's most complete offering; hosts discussing Pro tier cost-benefit frequently throughout episode

  • ?

    community_signal: Record number of write-in questions for This or That segment indicates strong community participation and engagement; community actively comparing machines and seeking host opinions

    high · Hosts noting 'record number of write-ins' at episode start; multiple detailed write-in matchups and questions throughout; community members asking specific comparative questions

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Zach's sentiment shift on Star Wars Pro after initial criticism; admitting Premium is better than Pro for shows but reconsidering Pro's value; suggests community revisiting machines with code updates and extended play

    medium · Zach initially said he hated Star Wars Pro at shows but now arguing Hyperspace is worth premium price; Greg noting Zach was initially 'not done arguing' about Star Wars quality

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Multiball quality affects machine rankings; Star Wars praised for differentiated multiball objectives vs. Demoman and Guardians; multiball design as undervalued design element

    medium · Greg noting Star Wars multiballs have 'different objective' vs. 'feel like the same damn multi' on Demoman; multiball mechanics mentioned as separate evaluation category

  • ?

    manufacturer_signal: JJP characterized by consistent design trade-offs: Wizard of Oz beautiful but not fun to shoot; Hobbit spectacle but floaty; Dialed In great shooter but bad theme; Pirates attempts to balance all; suggests iterative learning curve

    high · Greg systematically analyzing each JJP title's trade-offs and positioning Pirates as addressing all prior machine flaws; frames Pirates as culmination of JJP learning

    • 2:31
    just just can't stray too far from home so we're gonna do this or that we're gonna start out I'm gonna throw this one on you because I think I know what direction you're gonna go well right now I'm tired of getting beat up Greg right now so I'm gonna throw you into the bullring and see if you can get Marg better than me like these Bulls right here you ready this or that Greg so this is the segment where we weep in two pins against one another and we try to figure out which one we would take or scenarios or three pins they're just all kinds of scenarios factor sort of determinant kunkka would you rather yeah look I guess so this or that Greg Iron Maiden Premium or Star Wars premium mr. horse I got to die I will they say a Star Wars it sounds ludicrous let pay yeah I'm sorry guys like you I'm sorry it shit's for nah I don't up good that I love starting it with this Lake I've put in a lot of time on on an Ellie and on a pro a Iron Maiden and I enjoy it I enjoy it quite a bit but there is a game it is a great game it is great people keep on giving me a bad there like I'm tired of hearing you talk crap about Ironman oh wait a minute I gave the damn thing ace 4 gameplay code yeah I'm not you're just charting on it you're just saying that there are aspects of the game that you you don't lie is gonna be sad right now again yeah yeah sorry you're not saying that you've never said that it's a bad girl you there's just other things that you would like over it mm-hmm and so I can please
    4:28
    the multipliers it's not the most like like like I saw somebody else post them and there was a UH and here's another firefighter that we got to use I don't know if it's on your thing or not but that popped up but it was the BSD or Star Wars did you not see that I didn't see oh yeah it's a it's a it's red it's not a long thread but so I saw somebody comment on there and they was like red yes okay that was an actual thread that wasn't it wasn't written directly to us it was right inside through it and so somebody on there commented about the LED did you over Star Wars pearls yeah I did a Star Wars I know usually you Greg picked up a Star Wars Pro yeah for those of you who don't know didn't know that so somebody said that it's overly like the it's a fairly complex set of rules on Star Wars okay and I feel that that person has never had much time on Star Wars because not overly that was my general thought on what it feels like when you step up through the first very much so very much so you got the multipliers I thought it was very Game of Thrones mother's joy Sullivan yeah so I thought that it was gonna be overly complicated literally an hour so went to the machine there was nothing to it okay it's not that complex it's literally spells it out on the the LC a screen of what to do to complete each mo depends on how you're playing though tournament players aren't going to know even if you go with tournament players okay you hit your three bank targets that's what gives you your multipliers how satisfying is that well I actually sometimes things just think it's fun to keep them alive but that's all there is to it you've got your action button that you can change your shots that's not fun and rotate what shot you get your multiplier on or multipliers I'm Sicilian shot you set them on death star ramp and that's what I do the three most used shots in the thing but then you'll go down to one shot that's four multiplier I know what's so that can that can really determine a lot especially cuz I was arguing with Zach about video mode on the ramp I do see this shot but it might not always be the most lucrative shot that you you need in that mode so you're on Star Wars premium yes over Iron Maiden yes yes because the I know iron mains got a nice light show to whatever but the modes are so differentiated in this game I would actually say that star wars light lighting effects and light is better is better way better mmm like I'm yeah I'm not still taking anything away from iron maiden but everything now is a little blinding it's a little hard to see when you're in lightsaber battles stuff but that's what adds to it yeah like it's made to to make you drain he's had a minute about this yeah because I've fallen in love with that game like it is way better than anything that I've argued well great that's because you've never owned an iron maiden no but I mean I've put pretty little on but what do you think I mean you've owned it take my own Star Wars premium I owned Iron Maiden Pro one had to go and which one went Iron Maiden less exactly exactly in either one of I mean the Star Wars it when you look at the art and everything it's not it is I still stand by that of when we did there were first impressions already so it did not feel like Star Wars it didn't look like start with but the modes are what makes it actually feel like Star Wars it encompasses Star Wars a hell of a lot better than what you think once you get into those modes and you feel it in the sound formations our Star Wars feels like you're doing some thing yeah Iron Maiden I don't really feel like I'm doing any that is on the head yeah I think so I feel like an Iron Maiden you're you're completing your tasks but your tasks don't you don't feel like you're doing anything yes I've got so many spinners I've got so many orbits ramps terrific game Kelly but I'm not destroying the Death Star yeah I'm not in Tatooine battling I'm not on those speed bikes yes you know so I like that I would I would go Star Wars premium I owned a Star Wars premium my buddies come over to play and they laugh at me and they're like man this thing is really this thing's really holding to aren't exact and it's a blast to play I think it I think this is crazy Star Wars premium if dialed in correctly maybe Steve Ritchie's greatest shooting pin I can agree with that I can agree with that and I thought you were nuts when you passed our shot is so addictive it oh but you know what though I'm actually gonna say I would take an Iron Maiden Pro over a Star Wars Pro because you're missing out on that demand the Hyperloop I still don't think own it owning the pro you guys had me worried because our good friend food beer whoo beer our shout out to food beer day won against us like yes you don't know what you're missing on the Star Wars like you're crazy Zack got it then Zack was a conformant like exactly I didn't think sold in both of them had when I said I was picking up this Pro both them had me super terrified about that hyperspace everything yeah they were just like all you can't get it without hyperspace you can wear that for the money I say I don't give a [ __ ] about a looping ball don't bother still yes the crow it's a good job it might be and I played him at the show and I hated a Star Wars Pro so that's why that I put a lot of clot into what you guys were saying was because at the shows I enjoyed the premium a hell of a lot better than the pro but we just pictures are over Iron Maiden I tell start well you know what happily yeah hey I was talking to food beer about it and food beer said he goes you know when he goes I'm not saying that that Star Wars is the greatest shooter I'm not saying Star Wars they're just damn goodness he goes but if I was like stuck on an island I only had one pin to take it would probably be Star Wars because Star Wars encompasses so much with the most the Sam's life is everything well and this is kind of our premiere one so we're gonna hit this one post wrong how fun is the multi are the multi balls in Star Wars yeah I mean you just keep it you feel like you're shooting and you're a tide shootout and it's not like Demoman where that they even though the the the jackpots on Demoman are different and it still feels like the same damn multi LS over and over those multi balls on Star Wars they're different yeah different objective if I just like it I just like the the kinetic feel if we're talking keep that one and it talked about kinetic feel of everything that's where Star Wars this for me I'm not crazy about the multi balls and Iron Maiden because then flippers get in your way the the top to flip hitting your way from hitting shots yeah so that doesn't that doesn't fancy that doesn't feel as good Star Wars premium all day long it's a better theme it's better music it's better light show very different ideated rule set it shoots I can't say it shoots better because Iron Maiden Iron Maiden that loop shot is just where it's at Adam but Star Wars you know I'm gravitating towards the Steve Ritchie like balls to the wall shooting pins Steve Ritchie's are so much fun like if you go back to the older Steve Ritchie's especially you're just always shooting and those shots are solid yeah satisfying shot that's the thing it's almost all of them are satisfied even the horseshoe even though it's like a little mini orbit or loop yeah shooting it from both sides feels like two completely different shots it's fun to me it is I feel almost every shot in because if you you hit that that right ramp that right ramp is a little it can be a little tricky to get tough so when you hit that that's that it's much of your backhand yeah yes Steve Rich is a lot little bin that it has it that's satisfying is you're like I don't know if it's gonna make it read it's like it's like what we're talkin bout with walking dead there's not a shot so it's not satisfied we will make before we move on Steve Ritchie games for me or do you guys ever play a game where you just want to jam out and when that balls coming back to that flipper it's almost like a baseball you yes remit yes right that's what Steve Ritchie games are when it's when you hit that orbit and it's coming back around the smart move would probably be but there is nothing more fun I just smoking that thing back up and so if you're in a rant I love that all right so we're gonna start all right we're already pissing people I know okay well let's move on to really really make people angry I don't know what you're gonna say on this one but Batman 66 this is another one of my creations because well I'll tell you why here in a minute bat means 66 or guardians at the galaxy Ellie so similarly price you're not getting any money difference Batman 66 with ultimate Lyman code or guardians of the galaxy Ellie with the Borg lay out like I'm really mixed on you want me to answer first okay because I'm actually really on the fence about that because like I guard E&T Guardians has a it's a it's a lot better shooting pin yes a lot better shooting you're right I think Franchi did a better job on Batman I like to look a bit better actually they're they're they're fairly branchy versus French yeah they're fairly equally you've been on record saying you like Batman 66 are work better than Guardian yeah but don't record saying I like or something feels something has always felt off in guardians to me I don't know if it's because it's a little more dimly lit I don't know what it is something something it's sort of like Star Wars mist I mean it's kind of dark in the center with the LCD something something with the animations are something on the LCD I don't know what it is something does not pull me in with with guardians Batman there's something about the sounds and about the LCD and everything that goes on in Batman that pulls me in and it's such a pretty machine
    14:34
    aesthetics here's the correct answer I bought Batman 60 I have to go Guardians okay I bought Batman 66 I don't know if I told the people this yet did I tell the people this bought it dumped a thousand dollars worth of mods in it and I loved looking at it but I I I didn't let press the start button as much as I did my Sega Godzilla I still like to play it I got to the point where I don't hello guys if you guys like it I understand why you like it because of that rule set and because of the theme integration the theme integration is spectacular yes the rule set is spectacular yes it's not a fun shooter yeah that's what I'm screaming ah it doesn't hype you up it doesn't do anything mm-hmm that game and the code is oh my gosh oh my gosh I'm gonna end up getting more hate I don't think the codes really that great there's the code in a nutshell like you have you have risk/reward which is terrific you know are you cashing out or you're gonna continue or you gonna try to get your what I do like about the code is the mini villains they give you little rewards so there's a lot of strategy in Batman 66 on which villain mini villain you're gonna complete so that you can use that reward for later in the ball or later in the game yeah that's fine but ultimately you're doing shoot the lit for the mini villains yeah you're not progressing through a story yeah if you're gonna give me a Batman 66 I want more of a story in the main villain modes there's nothing there's nothing great you start these things and you hit so many shots in either your cash out or you go for two times and you continue the mode and whenever you're done you cash out you put them in jail the icon is or the bit about a bad reason I think it's still fun yes a search lit yeah that's it I think it's still fun is it fun i but is it I had 9,000 it is a 9,000 fun no hail no Gardens the galaxy all the way for me because that's one of those quick shooters I love the theme I love the music I love what Cleveland did to the as well and the code continues to progressing code is good almost take just the way that Guardians code is I'm talking about progression guys I'm talking about differentiation between the modes Batman doesn't really have much different in the modes except for the penguin mode it's very true very true and guardians that new code there is yeah you're doing multi balls on one mode you're doing combos in the out the modes are still not where it needs to be no and I don't think it will be give me a Guardians yeah I just like maybe something with guardians maybe something a little different with light show stuff this I miss my Guardians I want to get a Guardians premium oh wow I had the pro not afraid think I want to get a premium I've been fine with a pearl I like the greed hands I like bro just kind of my face I'm just if I get one I'm gonna take off one of their hands and I'm gonna get you when you're sleeping with it strong strong no I can I go with that I I definitely understand I think a lot of people are gonna agree no no there's the last thing we missed last this or that we our premier decision was Pirates of the Caribbean over Iron Maiden Ellie all right we pick that people we were mixed a lot of people said yeah you're right I'm gonna like pirates but here's the even tougher decision parts of the Caribbean by Jersey Jack Ellie mmm-hmm 9,500 bucks hmm or Iron Maiden Pro Plus $4,000 Rio plus so essentially Iron Maiden and two of these you pick them see I bore Pirates of the Caribbean Ellie due to my current financial situation so you should just talk Asian all of a sudden they're not due to ma I'd have to go with the Iron Maiden that doesn't surprise me one but if I had money I'd go with pirates well now hold up that makes no sense no I'm just saying if I had enough money I wouldn't care about that $4,000 okay I'll help you guys out
    19:08
    Iron Maiden in two more pins like this yeah that's what I'm going with okay you don't get to keep your money and put it down towards your mortgage yeah you gotta spend it oh yeah I'm gonna yeah oh yeah that's what draws me to it is they get two more pins yeah I'm definitely apart they're being for me I'm actually looking really forward to this game coming out um I don't know if I'll want to buy one but boy oh boy that press it is expensive oh boy that press will see what rows are starting to priced me out but yeah I can see a lot of people and that's what we've said over and over and over again Stern makes the best pros yeah yeah the cheapest nicest pin for the money yeah cheeps right careful now you own the proof yeah I like it Star Wars built pretty good though decent I don't know what that means and I don't think it's even correct but I'm gonna spare you guys arguing all right Chad Russell what's up Chad Chad how's it going chadwick he said he wants to know keeping with the pro theme he said to your Guardians Pro star wars pro or Aerosmith Pro Aerosmith would be my third mm-hmm I'd still have to go disagree star wars probably for my first the year any love in this pen Greg and you know and I got to the wizard I got to destroy there Bert yeah if you guys haven't been that we've said that or Facebooks on our facebook check that out he goes apeshit defeating us I'm not done you have worked as hell at it Greg and I have been competing on our Star Wars I get a previous got a pro like score wise and right now you're beating me yeah which I didn't put up an astronomical amount more points for that but it was still quite an achievement yeah I still like it even though that I dominated it how many go Guardians Pro that is a full package then I'll go Aerosmith Pro then I will go Star Wars pearl because you cannot buy the Star Wars Pro you're missing out on one of the most satisfying shots and pinball when you do so that shot is worth the extra 15 to $2,000 it is we're so opposite on Natalie now granted I'll give it to you dialing in that Hyperloop mine doesn't work but bright that time I think it comes out prematurely or whatever but hitting it and giving it up in there twice teenagers used to it pretty mature all right board dog Borg dog said I'm so sick of for you guys just picking these contemporary pins and this or that be a real man main upgrade what muscles man fell he wants to know pick something like fathom or centaur Oh centaur no I don't know fathom Oh fathom or centaur is beautiful we put sometimes centaur shoots pretty good I like the game they're both classics yeah you picked both if you if you can which one I like the liver fathoms Center kind of guy I like the way centaur looks too but if I was gonna have motor sauce in heaven my house it'd probably be fat you know what the the back glass reminds me of you and your wife on centaur it kind of does yeah you and your wife you got her on the back and you're good yeah so you're gonna go fathom yeah okay I'll go find them as well I think it's a better it's under that it's a cleaner shooter yeah I mean if I'm going you're dead old school I'm not much of a drop target guy as much as I am an orbit guy like if you're giving me drops give me in light drops yes I'll take those yeah but if you're wanting me to hit all these and especially if centaur is just really tough it is a brutal game hit them damn drop targets in order and that's frustrating to me that's not that taps are saps my fun factor if you will I can see why a lot of you guys I like touch a ball of it I really do I'm gravitating more and more towards tougher pins yeah that's well like well I don't think I'm rabbit ating towards I think we always said look at Ghostbusters Walking Dead some of our favorite pins even though those that is true there's true a lot people think Star Wars is tough these long playing like spider-man's at the world or just they're not doing much for me they're more i heard what the only exceptions Lord of the Rings won't get today in a minute 8-bit Andy our buddy what's up I think he's over in Europe hey Ben Andy what's happening is I watched his a drastic park pollen Kingdom review now we might have spot-on really thank you a bit o little research there I like that he reached out I like that said hey check this out so this is one we may have covered but I don't remember he said you want to go lower the range are you gonna go Hobbit Lord the Rings no hesitation all day long no hesitation all day long new Hobbit code all day long she watch a ggp live on Twitch you know I did not all day long it's just I think that that Lord of the Rings is one of the best coded games ever I just don't that for you now duel I think Hobbit by like 3,000 fold is a better looking pin yeah it's gorgeous another 7 pin you know I don't know there's things on the table that's my fault this is not a pop filter this is a spit shield that's my bed get your 3d glasses on tile grates got braces again yeah sorry retainer gentle have a routine no my teeth are natural all natural Mr Luthor lojacked yeah they really do I don't want to show them on camera sometimes you get a quick quick glimpse of them the top are all natural rule their eyebrows yeah I got lucky because I was yeah whereas and there is nowhere to lay my breath so out of water you know Denzel had terrible teeth and he got them all pulled those are called veneers absolutely have you not seen a like just be a girl you know a little movie trivia for you there where were we at why are we talking about retainers here's one bin Zeller Wesley Snipes that's not even in this for that that's worthy of my answers there's one correct answer in Wesley Snipes is ridiculous so stop you don't like whistling tonight he's fine but he's no Denzel but with us man kick the [ __ ] out of Denzel I'm gonna go man do I really have to pick Lord of the Rings over Hobbit yeah how do you not I love the Hobby don't get me wrong but again well bummer long time and now hobbits got a new code with the final Obama's gonna own one and have it just woke up sir I would take the Hobbit in my house by all means really but the Hobbit it Lord of the Rings can be pretty too I'll go Lord of the Rings I don't want to because I think hobby is just so pretty but I do love The Hobbit look I told food beer that when I was a race a so today like I was I don't buy this just so it sits in my house looks like art I know our buddy turbo graphics Hanson oh he's wanting to know about Lord of the Rings - we always get these Lord of the Rings questions Lord of the Rings Simpsons pinball party or woz Lord of the Rings names not even close when maybe Simpsons know was for me next even though I don't like I just don't like Simpson I don't know I just yeah Lord of the Rings Lord of the Rings woz and then Simpsons 8-bit Andy chimes back in he says bat me in 66 or bat me in dark night really I'm in six medics usually alright Batman 66 or Batman Dark Knight Plus $3,000 see I've got to play Dark Knight very much so that's you're not it is multi ball heavy it like it's too thin heavy as what it is it's a do you thought Batman 66 shoots bad and call out to her a little rough that did that sucks I go back man 66 absolutely 8-bit a and he also wants to know Starship Troopers or Baywatch oh my goodness wheelhouse here Baywatch Brother Baywatch they watch his kind of where it said I'll be open for one lately I have I've been looking for one for a while Starship Troopers I want to push off a bridge I don't hate it like you I think it's pretty good but I might be pretty good but if they watch country mode it doesn't matter it doesn't matter how good something runs if it looks like junk I don't want to ride it yeah well wait a minute that can be used in a couple of different yeah go come that one this is that great you won't say you want something that works good and runs good but she might not look the best but do you want something that she looked like a beauty but me in my younger years
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    alright same crop booked our favorite sink where the king even pronounce his last name he says pick a jersey Jay currently mm-hm of the four pictures Jack I don't know people shoot me over this but to own I'd probably go hop it over uh over down in to aisle din yeah I probably wouldn't as wrong with those I don't know I mean dialed in shoots fantastic it's a great game it's fun but Hannah some thought I'd enjoy about The Hobbit I love Jersey Jack machines there or if there is a major flaw in each Jersey Jack machine take your notes you ready I give you a second The Wizard of Oz came out it's beautiful the themes awesome the integrations awesome the rules are confusing but awesome yes it's not the funnest to shoot I agree they follow up with The Hobbit The Hobbit is a spectacle actually more beautiful than Wizard of all very much very deep but it is a wide body and it's open so it can play a little bit floaty so your gameplay isn't as tight as you want it to be that's that flood some of the best theme integration ever ever ever ever easily dialed in comes out and it is the shooter and the code is fantastic light show as great toys are great but guess what it's an album yes the theme sucked well the things fine but I'm being a little bit dramatic here but sitting in your game room the theme missus yeah parts of the Caribbean comes out it tries to integrate all of the things that the others were missing it looks good it's got terrific toys right it shoots fantastic pirates the Caribbean it's fun to shoot what it falls short on is theme I'm not even gonna market for theme because it's a cool pirate to the Caribbean theme it's the coat the different modes that's where it falls short long so let's hope Jersey Jack number five nails all it yeah so because of that I'm gonna go parts of the Caribbean yeah okay cuz that's the closest to a full package I think okay dealt yeah o our resident SDTM troll dealt 31 on pin side he says Tron or Metallica I've owned a mouth got rid of them both may get rid of everything no so it doesn't really count I'm gonna go I'll go first here hmm give me trunk it's a better game it's not as deep as Metallica but I know that one's kind of tough essentially I feel like I'm chopping wood on Metallica I think my talc is a better looking game you don't you really don't know what oh yeah the art and everything is fantastic on the plate finish you mean to tell me my souped-up Metallica look better than my souped up Tron yeah I think so Oh art said they like clip art [ __ ] and everything on on Tron it's not not very yes the Italica is not the richest art either no no but I mean it still is still nice uh listen a the molded all that stuff is fantastic on there you you have to mod the [ __ ] out of Tron to get it to look any any we're good I'm okay with that yes to see I don't know but who doesn't mod the [ __ ] out of there's wrong yeah but then you can't take that and you can't do that why can't I know cuz that that's not this just not fair okay out of the box Metallica looks better uh-huh which one would you rather play hmm I don't know kind of like Tron give me the gym shot all day yeah I'd have to go with Tron okay I'm so calm beause I get tired Metallica but still the Metallica's fun I like the Metallica music yeah I'd almost take the Metallica music over death Daft Punk Tron I like Metallica make a decision that's really the only thing I like about that pirate Ron okay major chronic chronic or gronic dr. dre yeah he works at a garage he's the qur'anic he's the he's a mechanic he's the door on a all the time this is what I deal with bad jokes whatever comes out so she said Oh Quranic said Tom crow he's on the strong kick too or Iron Maiden vault not iron made vault I was like damn they're already there Iron Man fault Tron or Iron Man give me trouble yeah it's Ron you meet your own greed I'm Joshua Anderson's want to know about throne as well this is their chitron week I don't know at prices falling like what I don't know what this means they should be I think it's wrong press you're falling a little bit Joshua and ER said Toronto pin bot the hell are you talking about this like you know I was giving this Ferrari but I think I'm gonna take the Camry
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    hopefully they're better than that this is such a broad weird spectrum it's so weird we're not gonna answer Josh Anderson also said ac/dc or Metallica there you go Josh ac/dc right you've owned an ac/dc you've owned a metallic both I'm get a little old but I'd probably go with ac/dc yes right you know what cuz the music cuz i'm tnt i both of rules are like careful now those are some of the best rule set in pinball i don't but the objective viewer does yeah well yeah josh me anderson also wants to know demo man or judge dredd hmm but all the time on Dredd I really enjoyed demo man dreads kind of cool
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    demo man I'd have to go with demo man by default cuz I put a lot of time on Dredd okay I've owned both of those Tim oh man I'm just not a fan of Judge Dredd I'm just not really a fan of so push neither I'm gonna go because I'm curious about this too so I just I I honestly want neither well we know that but we'll give me give me a good system 11 and I will take that $1,000 hit or no good system 11 is gonna be more than either one of those yeah so which one would you go with Judge Dredd yeah that's what I look when I read a little mini other one of them we get played Joshua Anderson also says 8-ball two looks
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    stop talking and start choking or Xena I'm not a xenon fan I've had one really nice one either she's not that much fun 8ball deluxe is funky sure it's a shooter with a ball deluxe out of those two and the last mr. Anderson spider-man or Iron Man spider-man Iron Man I mean early the rules dear I say or more engaging in spider-man I could see that but I like spider-man you like the shots okay Bart Bart de Schmitt for the bart de Schmitt hello they Schmitt blow okay he wants to know champion pub or whatever he lists I'm going to choose because champion pub sucks I like Gian pub he said we had this tall glass of soccer no World Cup soccer yeah well yeah yeah it's a World Cup soccer is a great pin that continues to rise in price champions belongs in a pub it's a good bar game like it's a fun it's got gimmicky it's fun it's good for not still enjoy it yeah yes but I don't know if I'd I don't know how long it would last in a home suicide we've got real deep into it but it still I have a great time if I can see a champion pub making more money on location than welcome Oh easily very much so yeah I think I think so I think okay Adam Streeter we love Adam Street who Adam yeah Adam said Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones Ellie because recently he's seen on pin side than both being 63 hundred bucks Lord of the Rings ones I mean lower the Rings is a nice take over most anything Lord the Rings easily easily you know it wasn't very easy which one looks better at all seeing with that reasons Chris whitey comes with five pack and he says taxi or high-speed taxi now you love high-speed I really like high-speed a lot of taxis a good game I've got taxi right now and I'm loving ya Texas good Texas is good it looks better yeah mmm it looks better my speeds canonically whitey also wants to know Tommy or guns and roses with the music mm daddies I kind of like the way and people might kill me on this I've been looking for tongue I haven't played a real good Guns N'Roses but I like the way Tommy plays better than Guns and Roses standard version obviously like a G in our music a lot better mm-hmm but I like the way to know both of those both of those pins actually intrigue me I think those are pins that as I'm going through all the new stirrers and Jersey Jack's there's some that I haven't owned in both of those I would like to own so I like Tommy I'm gonna give up things both of them because they're both fun yeah but I'm gonna take the collectability edge and go Guns and Roses a lot more to do you got your G no music after two plungers yeah which is cool I like it that's unique pen I'm gonna go that I'll go Tommy art sucks I'm both your daddy Earthshaker whirlwind whirlwind yeah doctor deed or cyclone give me the dude all day long not play funky old pin nothing is a Nordmann I played like doctor dude like once so I can't comment on those okay Oh pleading the fifth yeah I just because I don't have experience Greg's favorite our packaging fish tails or the getaway this one's tough this one's really tough because both are kind of shallow I go get away I just can't stand the little fish tails I think get away is the better game yeah but I would probably pick fish tails because I've not owned one yet I've owned up I say about a get away fish tails is probably a nicer looking pen then then get it away maybe yeah I mean that's cool with that okay that Ferrari where it just okay and you hate fish tails wait look yeah all right Oh hammerhead hammerhead said he wants to know the papa do games circus Voltaire theater magic or tales of the Arabian Nights that's a tough one for me is they're all they're all odd but they're not very deep no all of them are fun as Voltaire's kind of neat yes it is I like theater of magic the lorry themes totin is a blast - people love totin people love totem the rule sets are all very symptoms should probably be the pick but I'd go a theater of magic just because of the looks and the magic theme I'd go theater of magic last because I hate the wizard mode is easy to get to and blue circus Voltaire I'm gonna go circus Volterra things the prettiest of all the pins it's very prom I like the way it shoots I think it's unique just Voltaire - I really like that bad glass and then tone ah I just played so much totin and kicked its butt so many times but defeating the jean-yves never gets old how about a circus Voltaire as well he wants to know also we're gonna throw in some system safe system Elevens but in one's system 7 and yeah high-speed at 14 Tomcat Black Knight 2000 is high-speed a system 7 I got 14 though and you can get it for a decent price I think high speeds the best game I do - oh very much so I'll go high speed but a very close second is Black Knight 2004 yeah because it's just so pretty I can excel so so pretty thank you all right what about gameplay between at 14 and Black Knight that 14 is a I like it for teens this is different effort there they're similar in respect to their both in-your-face ass kicked because that 14 that that target right yes I had up kill you yeah but Black Knight mm you're not seeing the ball under the mini play field yeah like this one gets me I di think gotta go with that 14 gameplay wise okay I'm not gonna argue again yeah yeah right now this one I don't think either one of us are gonna be able to answer but El Dorado these are old old games ever played El Dorado versus centigrade 37 I have no idea what that even is
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    centigrade thirty-sevens like one of the most classic electromechanical machines ever made as well as Atlantis Gottlieb's Atlantis yeah what joke Rick just off the name of if I was gonna go off a name alone Atlantis I'm going with centigrade 37 just for the collectability of it and I like the art you know I have seen El Dorado though it's kind of neat looking yeah oh yeah I'd really go with an El Dorado cowboy man you get it yes Jeff Dillman Ghostbusters or Star Wars I'll tell you what lovers of both I do love both but but freakin ghostbusters I played that pen so much that is one of the only pins that frustrated me so bad and I played it so much out of this this just drive and hatred that like I almost can't stand that damn thing anymore so I probably have to still stay with Star Wars I know I've been Star Wars heavy let's do this Star Wars Pro Ghostbusters Pro Oh Star Wars I'll go ghostbusters there I think it's the superior of the of the series Star Wars premium or Ghostbusters premium I'm certainly like the premium ghostbusters a little more logo star war doesn't shoot as well as the pride game is terrific starring me like I said those Buster's just left such a bad taste bad taste in my mouth of the like just because like I said we played it so much that it's so true Oh little ones up how are you ma'am dirty have a shower we'll come say hi to the people why not they're right there you know you can't have my phone as a recording on she's coming to get you guys okay she's uh she's been able to shower by herself now so she takes like six hours a day like we're randomly just sitting on the council we hear the shower going yeah we're like you can't do that it's not good for you know what's gonna dry yeah you know that don't ya Jeff Dillman also said South Park or Austin Powers this one's tough for me because I actually enjoy him both I do enjoy them both theme I would go with Austin Powers I'll go with Austin Powers actually I think it's got a lot of cool toys in it that you see later on in games Tigra it's just the codes not great well Southport codes no no all right still fun though they're both fun people that I go though shooter himself myself are pretty good some girl to me like mr. hankey all back school it's kind of rude you act like a turd Jeff Dillman wants to know eight ball champ or eight ball deluxe now this is a to eight ball to look exciting on this or that it's we don't want to know about it was it's on one of the last affordable games a bowl a ball champ actually I'll give that a lot of credit yeah because it's fresher it's newer but there's nothing like eight ball to lives yeah okay three Paragon or future spa never played future spa so I go Paracon by default yep they're both essentially they're very similar to me of a Paragon and the only edges because they art uh-huh art are concealers what the hell is this I wrote this down even note that says Jeff Dillman says gold star or skyline are those chilis maybe how do you feel about Chile oh I like Chile is it your favorite soup soup I don't know this or this do you classify Bailey as a soup I don't think you'd come what do you classify it as just chili I like a good white chili yeah yeah no give me a good old country chili I love a good white I like my chili a little thinner too to play it off more as a soup I like it dinner tip she also makes a really good chili if you're putting in all hot dog I'm fine with do you foot don't know they get mad when you put noodles and Willie I'm from Indiana noodles in country Chile is mez needles yeah spaghetti new that's why I was always ready to and like when I started here oh yeah when I started hearing like Chile don't have noodles I was like you're like where's the noodle says well you talk about I don't know if it's our weird like German ancestry of what it's like noodles belong in that [ __ ] very basic yeah yes yeah it's not a lot of crazy show not a lot of peppers or no no no it's just so it's beans it's meat it's a chili stick in its noodles you 100% that's about what it is it's I love now what do you put your chili what do you mean cheese and crackers it seriously gotta be like chili chili soup yeah I'd go with that full throttle or checkpoint by Philip Dickson I don't think this is such a weird comparison I guess it's a speed themed choice there's a lot of games I'm hearing I haven't played this name around I'm gonna go full throttle actually don't mind full throat I just hate the theme and checkpoint yeah checkpoints fine but nope nope nope full throttle all right to end us off a marathon there because the ending rod Voris should be good you guys know we end our this or that's with some maybe off color choices or some some eccentric choices mark [ __ ] Marco or it's not very nice mark [ __ ] Berg I think [ __ ] [ __ ] Berg course Berg poor spread forsberg might be able like hors d'oeuvres but [ __ ] burn it just silent there's burn Lordsburg good be that's where your mom's from right [ __ ]
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    ask your mom she's the mayor this is only in this comment so immature dad was so immature but you know how much fun that was it's so much but it hit me up [ __ ] I'm revitalized your mom can't even afford the taxes and [ __ ] burger property I mean in here he wants to know he said Greg Zack can you guys discuss just a little bit on the perfect amount of pins for a collection oh I like this one so whenever you first get into pinball you think one pinball is cool yes and then you're like that's like another pinball yes but then to kind of get sold to looks ugly to to cannot set there and then who is Terry feels good because you don't have to play each one every night yeah gonna go back and forth huh then you want four mm-hmm and now you're up to five yeah well you're I did that five but it's a lot of back to four how does it feel being from four to five not terrible it's not terrible you like the feeling of five I like five it's ten too much I'll give my input I agree with everything you said the one pin yes all that stuff hmm but I will tell you when I went from three to four there's a five I didn't want to stop oh that's the problem because I liked it I liked and I think this is what happens with most people is it it almost becomes an obsession like collecting oh it's an obsession to begin with don't get me wrong like I'm not nullifying it but I've got this other control but I'm saying though like I think that like you think well it's just because I'm gonna play on we're doing a YouTube video well I'm at a point where Dell news people it's an obsession I'm at a point where that I like to have like I want the themes in my election like that's why I won't be SB like I they're good playing games but I don't want to dim the leafiest II always sound dirty to me because it's like I could say a lot of really bad things to go this all you gotta do is look at Greg's Google searches you'll see all kinds of actions but yes I love I I like to have the themes I'd like to be able to play those pins what I want to play them so if you're actually asking for a magic number I think it's as many as you can afford without getting yourself in debt but I think three to five I think five is very nice three it will keep you occupied it's like sex if you can have one pen that sets there that you don't play but every few weeks every month or something and rotate the other to five makes that even better I think that if you're on that budget everything five five is very nice I think again three to five the five is good for sure I'm gonna say what do you think how many pinball machines should a person own little eleven eleven that's a pretty good number one city does your grandma live in no question about that later why did your dog just lick my toe okay I'm gonna say as many as you can forge the cop-out answer that's the correct one I think minimum three if your I involve very much want to be a collector minimum three there for awhile I rolled with three higher end pins yes but now you're going on the five I've got some system Elevens get some Sega stuff so that felt it felt pretty good too mmm-hmm I knew the reason minimum if you can have ten I always told myself if I have five pinball machines that's a collection I agree Sophia three minimum five ample five feels really good I agree anything over five is just bonus points I agree I think and don't now here I will say this if you're loaded stop telling sure you have a hundred pins cuz it makes me really jealous and it actually causes concern but if I was wealthy oh yeah I'd have all entire game just don't get yourself in the debt I have seen people you're gonna get everybody talks about this everybody do they really because I don't see it mentioned very much just don't hear here's what you do just be smart how about that yes financially yeah can't afford a ping go out and play one yeah I will say though a lot of podcasts are very tournament driven and play on location driven huh III think there is nothing like playing at home oh why nothing else around by yourself I agree that's fun I think that laying in a bar just you can't hear anything and you got somebody next to you that you think is NaN know if you can afford to own at least one pin no matter what what the system 11 whatever you can get I recommend getting a pin in the home since pins change when they go home yes they do very much do I agree Star Wars yeah again like there's been a lot of games like that that I've gotten Colin Irvin this is a really good one he said do you go awesome design and gameplay but with boring rules or a clunky game that doesn't shoot the greatest but boy does it have an awesome deep oh okay so don't shoot very well but it's got a good rule set yeah so you go clunky with good rule set or bad rules but shoots like a dream man that's really tough so we're basically talking about let's see awesome design boring rules it's like a Houdini no some bricks good rules but it's I would say design no Houdini don't think people don't think that gameplay is great no but what do you say you don't have to say that again that is that I also design yes great shooting game yeah with boring rules alyssum maybe some Sega's so it's just basically Dental rules some sega's or a clunky design and great rules like a little yes it's basically down the rules so do you go the Lord of the Rings don't shoot Tara so that's basically Sega or George Gomez ah man we love you George that's really tough because like how do you get through to progress through the good rules if the gameplay just sucks complete ass it's Batman Oh Batman don't shoot that bad I'll go Batman so you're gonna go deeper rules yeah clunky gameplay yeah I think I'm gonna do that as well because if I want a good shooting game I can always buy a system 11 I'm not expecting good rules out of that well you're not gonna find no matter how much it shoots good and how satisfying the shots are that's gonna we're very fast if your reason through the game yeah so we need that's hard man it's really tough it's tougher than what it sounds honestly : when you really start to think about it's a lot is there something about having a nice flowing good shooting game and going for points because the points are always going to be there regardless yeah
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    Nadine great Nadine is kind of uh he's a troll he is a troll I think he got kicked off Pinza I don't know he's a troll but we love him except for this question he says this or that monogamy or bigamy on this you sponsor out a remain family-friendly yeah yeah let's let's skip that one let's go to the ender we got people started up with hot dogs let's stir some people up with pizza mmm you going Chicago deep-dish mmm king of the pizza or are you going thin crust Ibiza from New York yes I for one I love the Chicago deep-dish really yes I love it like I was raised on like that's what we made at home with Chicago deep-dish like I love the fillings I love love that a little bit of extra sauce it's like I like that I'm not wild about dough but like I like that that that consistency with the dough mixed with those extra toppings that's I love that deep dish yeah so if I want lasagna all eat I'm going thin crust pizza because it's crispy its crunchy it's good it's got toppings but it's not Alps my tart please I swear to God I I thought in my head before I said that I probably shouldn't say this is the edge too good on this day and age like people will take that [ __ ] Syria will fight somebody feathers Lord I'm a very passive guy I'm gonna go thin crust you know what the underdog is Indiana Pizza that's right good old tavern pizza like good ol Indiana chili yeah I got like a thin crust tavern style pizza with your fresh ingredients that you can taste instead of just mountains of sauce I'm not a big fan I saw you there I agree and that's a lot of people thought deep dish is a lot of sauce but it's a mix it's like cheese yeah get a lot of cheese yeah but if you've got a life that lose or something man like that sauce is so rich which keeps it going we're big Chicago people we bear I've lived there for a while I like I like I like it a lot he just [ __ ] on Giordano's yeah like do you not like people love it but it's good I like lose that's my you know what I meant Gino's East kind of guy Gino's East okay so that concludes our this or that we did not pick monogamy over bigamy no unless you're asking Greg in college and signed up he signed up for a lot of people in horse burrs he went the horse burger love to cut that all the [ __ ] not all horse burg just how many people live in würzburg your mom I'm not answering that I'm not answering about monogamy and I had a lot of good jokes for that one too I did too that concludes our epic this or that segment of straight down the middle of pinball show this is Greg I'm Zach we want you to check out our Facebook page make sure - oh god a beach - the Facebook thing no I had one real quick I told you I had one yeah was I'm actually thinking about it it took you four T of them okay goodbye what Demoman because I'm thinking of getting rid of it Johnny new money no no no but Johnny's still good just get rid of demo man does the for yes for Jurassic Park I like that or Baywatch or do you keep demo me nope get rid of demo mean either one of those either one I think so I think they will disagree you do you really do yeah he loved it moment I like it a lot but I'm it's getting you gotta go babe watch or Jurassic yeah and especially with your theming and your preference whenever you I'd start looking for a nice Jurassic Park I I've been bit they don't pop up there's always something they do but you just don't want to pay for it eat it yeah because people just through people I think you should pay $3,000 for a pristine dress Oh what if I find one for 3 grand at pristine but they're not there you guys heard it here maybe getting Jurassic Park in we'll see alright so check us out on YouTube all of our other YouTube videos share them if you want to be so kind you know nap will that's a boy with a that's our boy nappy and then also twitch yes Chuck work just had a nice tournament stream very noisy stream like man thank you think chuck like he is working so hard with those streams they got great commentary everything all the commentators out that Northern Kentucky League like Chuck Chuck works doing a streaming a tournament you've got to check that out I carry also go to iTunes if you guys are listening to this as a podcast for those podcast listeners I got a job for you go review our podcast give us a good five-star rating so that it helps us out on the where we fall close to our two thousand subscribers tell your friends tell your friends subscribe [Music]
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    the slingshot you rolling at the outlet ugh that Stern fan start up over there yeah it's like a damn electric car take it off Prius is quieter than that way you wanted it warm in the basement yeah I'm been chilly all day cutting glass over here