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Episode 248 – Find The Edit

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 33m·analyzed·Apr 1, 2025
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt post-TPF review covers new game impressions and industry news.

Summary

Ron and Bruce discuss Texas Pinball Festival (TPF) coverage, news items including Stern's Venom accessories, Chicago Gaming's Medieval Madness Merlin Edition ($12,000) and Cactus Canyon upgrade kit ($1,250), and Pinball Brothers' ABBA wizard mode and upcoming Predator release. Bruce provides detailed hands-on impressions of new games at TPF: Blues Brothers (unreliable, poor art), D&D Premium (cool dragon head but not worth $2,500 premium), Cactus Canyon with kit, Merlin's Arcade (disappointing layout despite John Norris design), and Portal/Multimorphic display. The episode also covers local news about Rochester Pinball Collective's new LED sign, Ron's Meteor acquisition, and Stomp tournament details (46 pre-registered of 80 max spots).

Key Claims

  • Venom game is so unpopular that people are trying to get rid of it, yet Stern is releasing accessories for it

    high confidence · Ron: 'it's a game that everyone's trying to get the fuck rid of. That's true. Let's fix accessories for it.'

  • Medieval Madness Merlin Edition from Chicago Gaming sold out (1,000 unit run)

    high confidence · Bruce: 'they did a thousand unit run which is supposedly sold out yes already'

  • Medieval Madness Merlin Edition is priced at $12,000 (1.5x the price from 2014-2015 release)

    high confidence · Ron: 'It's $12,000. Yeah. $12,000. So it is one and a half times more than when they first came out in 2014, 2015.'

  • Cactus Canyon upgrade kit priced at $1,250 with $250 deposit; includes 10 new modes and 2 enhanced modes

    high confidence · Bruce: 'they announced the cactus canyon they did $1,250. Yeah. And it needs a $250 deposit... comes with saloon doors and a spinner... includes 10 new modes and two enhanced modes'

  • Cactus Canyon kit had reboots during TPF play-testing (Showdown multiball reset)

    high confidence · Bruce: 'the game it was on I saw rebooted twice... Showdown is one of these multi-balls... it just reset. And he's like, oh, I guess I'm done.'

  • Blues Brothers game is unreliable and broke multiple times during TPF (Friday down most of day, Saturday had issues)

    high confidence · Bruce: 'The first day, Friday, it was up for a couple hours and it was broke. It was down the rest of the day... Saturday it was up again... then it comes back on... they shut it off because it's broke again'

  • Blues Brothers has placeholder-quality art and poor lighting design making the playfield hard to see

    high confidence · Bruce: 'The art looks like placeholder art... It looks like a homebrew... it's worse than a homebrew... so blinded by the LEDs from the songs'

  • D&D Premium includes moving dragon head topper; some early purchasers (Tom Graff, Zach) already selling them

Notable Quotes

  • “it's a game that everyone's trying to get the fuck rid of. That's true. Let's fix accessories for it.”

    Ron and Bruce (responding to news about Venom accessories) @ early in episode — Captures frustration with Stern releasing accessories for a commercially unsuccessful game

  • “You didn't blow out your drill. You blew out the lock.”

    Bruce @ mid-episode — Humorous correction during Ron's Meteor restoration story

  • “It's not meant for pinball players. It's meant for people who just want a game.”

    Bruce (quoting Blues Brothers designer Mike) @ TPF games discussion — Reveals design philosophy of Blues Brothers as non-enthusiast/casual player game

  • “I couldn't hear them. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun... Yeah. It's just the art is bad. Piece of shit. Piece of shit.”

    Bruce (on Blues Brothers audio/art quality) @ Blues Brothers section — Strong condemnation of game quality across multiple dimensions

  • “For all the talk about how great the call-outs were going to be, I keep hearing the same ones over and over.”

    Bruce (on D&D callouts) @ D&D section — Criticism of D&D code/voice acting variety despite design promises

  • “I was looking forward to it, but it just didn't really do it for me... Usually that's enough to make me happy. You would think.”

    Bruce (on Merlin's Arcade having repeatable loop shot) @ Merlin's Arcade section — Even a signature feature couldn't salvage the layout for this reviewer

  • “The last couple of new games that came out, for the first time I can ever remember, were themes that I was clueless on.”

    Bruce (on D&D and Portal) @ Portal section — Reflects aging demographic and disconnect from millennial gaming IP

Entities

Stern PinballcompanyBrian EddypersonChicago Gaming CompanycompanyPinball BrotherscompanyTexas Pinball Festival (TPF)eventMultimorphiccompanyBlues Brothers (pinball machine)gameD&D: The Tyrant's Eye (Premium)game

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Pinball Brothers absorbing tariff costs to reduce Predator pricing; manufacturer strategy indicates market pressure

    high · Ron: 'Pinball Brothers unveils... Predator... and it shoots better than queen... that could be interesting'

  • ?

    community_signal: Stomp tournament strong pre-registration (46 of 80 spots filled); hosts expect potential sellout before May 1 deadline

    high · Bruce: 'We've had 46 people sign up so far... We are two away from certified. And we are over half of the 80... We might sell out before the end'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Merlin's Arcade layout failed to resonate with experienced players despite John Norris pedigree and presence of repeatable loop shot; significant competitive advantage went to Portal and Merlin Medieval Madness Edition at TPF

    high · Bruce: 'I was looking forward to it, but it just didn't really do it for me... I wasn't feeling that layout, I'm afraid to say... I like the way Ninja Eclipse shoots better'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Blues Brothers explicitly designed for casual/non-enthusiast market rather than skilled players; manufacturer acknowledged this positioning during criticism

    high · Bruce quoting Blues Brothers designer Mike: 'It's not meant for pinball players. It's meant for the person who just wants a game'

  • $

    market_signal: Medieval Madness Merlin Edition sold out 1,000 unit run; Chicago Gaming likely to increase production due to strong demand

    high · Bruce: 'they did a thousand unit run which is supposedly sold out yes already'; Ron: 'tap the brakes make 1500 now and continue on'

Transcript

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0:00
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0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slamtail Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Hello. I hope we are live. Yeah, you and your freaking computer. Holy shite. We're only at a 25-minute delay. 29-minute.
0:56
Well, no, we were on talking for like four minutes. I'm not going to include that. Yes, shite. Mm-hmm.
1:03
This is episode 248, the post-TPF episode. Oh, my. One of us went to TPF. I'll give you a guess on which one. Sorry, Ron, you didn't make it, but I really had a great time. Yeah, yeah. No, you never go there. No, I haven't gone there in 10 years.
1:23
You used to be, you were a vendor there. I was a vendor there. I remember that. All right. So let's talk about, let's just do news first. Let's talk about sex, baby. Let's talk about you and me. What? Ah, no.
1:40
Ah, God. All right. You threw me off there. I got all fucking discombobulated. I'm going to go through the news items here. Yes, you will. And we'll get right into this. From Nap Corner, Nap Arcade here. Nap Arcade. Did you know Stern reveals Venom accessories?

high confidence · Bruce: 'I got to see the premium for the first time... the moving head... I know a couple people who own them are already selling them yes really yes hi tom graff hi zach'

  • D&D Premium moving dragon head is cool but not worth $2,500 extra premium cost

    high confidence · Bruce: 'is it worth two thousand five hundred dollars extra uh no no'

  • Portal extended version kits represent 98% of Portal kit sales; Portal had long lines at TPF

    medium confidence · Bruce: 'they had long lines... From what I heard, 98% of the kits they've sold for Portal have been the extended'

    • Portal (Multimorphic)
    game
    Merlin's Arcade (Deep Root)game
    Cactus Canyon (kit)product
    Ron Hallettperson
    Bruce Nightingaleperson
    Rochester Pinball Collectiveorganization
    Stomp tournamentevent
    Dennis Creaselperson
    John Norrisperson
    Tom Graffperson
    Zachperson
    Final Resistancegame
    Jaws 50th Anniversarygame
  • ?

    personnel_signal: Multiple early D&D Premium purchasers (Tom Graff, Zach) liquidating machines before code reaches 1.0, suggesting dissatisfaction with premium tier value

    medium · Bruce: 'the thing's not even close to 1.0 and it's like you're not even giving it a chance... I know a couple people who own them are already selling them'

  • $

    market_signal: D&D Premium moving dragon head topper ($2,500 additional cost) insufficient value proposition; early owners already liquidating machines

    high · Bruce: 'is it worth two thousand five hundred dollars extra uh no no... I know a couple people who own them are already selling them yes really yes hi tom graff hi zach'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jaws 50th Anniversary game remains incomplete (not at 1.0) almost a year after release, questioned by community as atypical for Stern

    medium · Ron: 'Well, you know what? Jaws still isn't at 1.0 yet. Yeah, exactly. How is it not at 1.0? It's been a year. Almost a year.'

  • ?

    product_strategy: D&D Premium spinner placement blocks shot entry and reduces ball routing quality, negating mechanical advantage as a feature

    medium · Bruce: 'it's cool to have a spinner in front of a shot until the spinner blocks the shot... If you don't hit it clean, the spinner will flip around, and then it just doesn't go in smoothly'

  • ?

    product_concern: Blues Brothers game suffered multiple mechanical failures during TPF, with coil failures, saucer rejection issues, and repeated reboots affecting gameplay reliability

    high · Bruce: 'The first day, Friday, it was up for a couple hours and it was broke... Saturday it was up again... then it comes back on... they shut it off because it's broke again... I heard the words coil fried'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Negative community reception of Blues Brothers game based on quality, reliability, and art direction despite being from major manufacturer

    high · Bruce: 'I just can't see who would ever buy this... It's bad... Piece of shit... No one wants to play it'

  • ?

    technology_signal: Blues Brothers has poor audio implementation; only 4 songs advertised but inaudible during gameplay

    high · Bruce: 'It supposedly has four songs on there. I couldn't hear them... the sound isn't good'

    • 2:02
    Hey, did you at least see any of the accessories? I did, and I laughed at them because I'm sitting there going, it's a game that everyone's trying to get the fuck rid of. That's true. Let's fix accessories for it. Well, that's because they were delayed because the first iteration of the topper did something. Fire!
    2:19
    Driving in my car. Burning up my pinball machine. I turn on my topper. And I got fire. So I do like the topper, though. I'm looking at it. It's okay. It's not bad. It looks pretty cool. It's got a little iPhone LCD screen in the center there that's showing whatever that is. And when we kiss. It's all fire. I like the side armor. Side armor is good. Yes, side armor looks great. This is one of the better side armors I've actually seen. But? But what? It's still a game that's been out for over a year. People are trying to get rid of this game.
    3:08
    Pro sucked. Premium and LE were okay at best. Okay, we got the... Wait, it's so bad that he's already made another game. Oh, Brian Eddy made this. The team, actually, the design team has already made another game. That's bad. Well, you know, it's bad. It'd be bad if... The second game was good. It'd be bad if Keith Elwin comes out with King Kong, which is the next game, and Jaws still isn't at 1.0 yet. Yeah, exactly. That would also be bad. Although, I haven't heard anyone complaining that Jaws isn't complete. Yeah, but still. Still. How is it not at 1.0? It's been a year. Almost a year. Exactly. Like, I don't get it.
    3:50
    Yeah, the topper does look cool. The side armor's really nice. I think Ron's going to buy another game. No. But what else? Pinball Brothers unveils ABBA Wizard Mode. Oh, God. Did anyone buy ABBA? I don't think so. Well, you know what their next game supposedly is going to be?
    4:12
    What's that, Ron? Predator. Yay. Now, that could be interesting. Yay. Get to the chopper. Yes. yeah i like the helicopter i do like the helicopter lock i have to say and it's it shoots better than queen yeah that's faint praise but i'm just saying all right yeah and on that so uh chicago gaming it's going to be making more medieval madnesses which they're calling the merlin edition yeah fucking how many fucking editions do we need just keep that game on the line and fucking sell a ton of them well they did a thousand unit run which is supposedly sold out yes already that tells you guess what tap the brakes make 1500 now and continue on just continue on yes because guess what you're selling a shitload of those good for them though oh totally good i mean great do you order it now well you can't because they're sold out but um if you find a distributor to have yes asm you might get it by 2028 yeah exactly great they ain't fast no i'm just looking at it here cool topper yeah the side art is not i not side art but i mean the armor no everyone loves this game i i mean it's good but it's good afm is better yes i agree totally that's why i have both but this is not a new thing i mean when i got into the hobby this was like the holy grail game they yes they were like four thousand dollars then and that was the most expensive insane you know thing they're saying people are fucking crazy paying four thousand dollars for this game yep and guess what people eat them up yep let's see uh what else we got for news oh yes chicago more chicago gaming news they announced the cactus canyon well they announced the cactus canyon kit but they announced the pricing for the cactus canyon they did $1,250. Yeah. And it needs a $250 deposit. Uh-huh. What do you think? Eh. I mean, it comes with saloon doors and a spinner. Spinner. And all the new code, which includes 10 new modes and two enhanced modes. Let's just say this was at TPF, and the game it was on I saw rebooted twice. and both times it was running one of these 10 new things.
    6:47
    So they might want to look into that. Whoopsie. Yeah, like Showdown is one of these multi-balls. The guy was in Showdown and it's just reset.
    6:57
    And he's like, oh, I guess I'm done. He beat it. He beat the game. Look at that. Congratulations. I like they added Bella Bart. Yeah. Because she's the one on the back last that you never see in the game. But now she's in the game. She's Bella Bart. it does make it a little harder because now you're hitting a bash toy to get to the other bash toy yeah and you don't get nice feeds like it just can come back anywhere which anything that can make the game harder that game harder i think is good yeah totally i still think i i play it too long for me ever consider it it's a long it's a long player even though i really like the game And I'm a sucker for westerns, and it's got that Williams humor. Yep. Everyone knows the quotes, even if they don't know the game. Lock is lit! And so am I! So am I! Everyone knows that. But it's a fan outlet, Ron. How could you like a fan outlet? A fan layout? Layout, I mean. Yeah. How could you like that? I like the other, what is it? Welcome to Cocked Cactus Canyon. That's an actual line in the game, by the way. But yeah, how could you like a fan layout? I have an AFM, Bruce. It's like the fanniest fan that has ever fanned. Fan, fan, fan. Yes, it's the ultimate in fan. From fan man. You must be a fan of the fandom.
    8:19
    I don't mind a good third flipper, though, you know? No, I don't mind at all either. Make it so, number one. Let's see. Actually, I'll save this one for the TPF discussion.
    8:32
    Is that it for news? I can't be it. Let me look at my notes here. Yeah, the Medieval Madness. Oh, yeah, I didn't get the price. It's $12,000. Yeah. $12,000. So it is one and a half times more than when they first came out in 2014, 2015. Yeah. Yeah, that's the way it is. Yeah, that's a ticket. That's just the way it is. Some things will always be more expensive. Some things will never change.
    9:02
    I have a note here. Gene Simmons. why do i have this note there bruce because i was trying to get out of my tour but uh well we talked about last episode about the um roadie for a day roadie for a day how much was that twelve thousand dollars so it's a little less than that medieval man yeah exactly see you could have even got a day with gene simmons and a base you could have got and you could have been told what to do and got a shirt and all this fun stuff. But due to poor ticket sales, no one wanted to watch Gene. The tour was canceled. And now there's some consternation from people that actually signed up for that deal about getting their money back. Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, you'll get your money back. Well, that's right. You'll get your money back, all right. Now, how about we do this? You can come and watch Kiss for free. Yes, because they're coming back baby wait a minute i thought they had a farewell tour bruce they did they had a farewell tour yes and he and gene actually said in his comment we will not be doing the makeup anymore because you know what they're going to do in this tour artist show shows they're doing shows no makeup yes without makeup so and bruce kulik's coming back uh the guitars from uh okay 85 to 93 free oh god you're too much of a kiss expert bruce i am yes but uh yeah so they they must need more money the how do they need more money they're milking them dry they got so much money it's not like they're poor i don't understand i know but guess what let's dig them out of the grave they look at as as the have you seen deadpool and wolverine yet no okay there's a line in there that says Disney's going to make them do it until they're 90.
    10:54
    Well, Kiss is making themselves do it until they're 90. I mean, when you're so old that even with makeup on you look old, that's when it's time to move on. Yeah. The makeup can't even hide the flaws. It's bad. I just love the fact that the makeup they wear, it's literally called clown white. Clown white. Just like I said, they're clowns.
    11:17
    But yeah, holy fuck. But the tickets don't go on sale until Wednesday, April 2nd, for KISS Army people and April 7th for regular people. Oh, I'm there. And I heard the tickets are going for a minimum of $1,000.
    11:35
    Minimum. Nosebleeded. That's right, because you need to pay if you want to see KISS. Yes. If we were in makeup, it would be $2,000. And there's a guy at my work. He's one of the higher-ups. He's like, I'm really thinking about going out there and seeing that. Jesus Christ. I'm like, are you fucking nuts? Oh, no, no, no. I've never seen him with Bruce Kulik. And I said, oh, I can understand that mentality. But you still have two people. You know, Bruce Kulik's like 10 or 12 years younger than them. So he at least has some youth in him. Some youth in him.
    12:12
    But not. But it's just going to be a shit show again. But guess what? It's a – what do you say it? Say it, Ron. Cash grab. Yes, it is. Yes, it's a cash grab. Holy fuck. Yep.
    12:28
    I was going to ask you. I was looking at my notes. You told me to write down meteor. Meteor. I sold my meteor about two years ago. You did? I did. That was a mistake. I got good money for it. Okay. It was pretty rough. Okay. And I got another one. When did you get another one? At an auction. At an auction, Bruce. At an auction. Yes. So I go down to Pennsylvania. It was a three-hour drive. A three-hour drive. So six hours. Round trip. Round trip for a meteor. Okay. Hold on, hold on. Then I had to go through all the other parts of the auction.
    13:09
    And we were in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, okay. So we had a lot of guns and ammo going on. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about right there. Yeah. America.
    13:23
    And, oh, my God, I'm sitting there going, oh, my God, I've been here for two hours. So then they go, okay, let's get the rest of the stuff on the side out of the way. And this meteor did not work. It looked okay. You know, the cabin, it's a little worse for where it in mine was. It's got a rub spot like a dog was rubbing up against it on one side of it. but all the plastics are there everything's there i couldn't get inside of it because it was locked but i could get into the door and i saw that it was hacked up a little bit so i'm like okay you know maybe a couple hundred bucks it wouldn't be bad so back glass is pretty darn good actually way better than my old one and you know plastics look you know cabinet looks you know there you know but not you know so they start the bidding twenty dollars and i'm gonna wait a little bit I get $20, and the guy in front of me, $30. Okay, we get up to $70. He stops. I'm like, all right, I get to fucking $70. Okay. Nope, he goes $100.
    14:19
    Asshole. Yep, exactly. We get to $140. I wait a little bit. And they're going once, going twice. I go $140, and he goes up to $170. I just went $200. He dropped out, and I got me a meteor for $221 with fees. Uh-huh. So that's in the project pile. And then you open it up, and it had no boards. It had no – No, no. It had all the boards. They're all – it has the original boards in it. The battery's cut off, which is good. Ah. The bottom board, the power for the transformer board is just hacked. I'm going to replace that. Oh, the rectifier board, yes. The rectifier board. So there I am. I'm going, hey, where are the keys for this thing? They're like, oh, we don't have them. Okay, no problem. I go out to my car, brought my drill, blew out the drill on the top lock, turned it, got the back glass out, took it all apart. In 15, 20 minutes, I was done. You didn't blow out your drill. You blew out the lock. Blew out the lock with my drill. With your drill, yes.
    15:13
    And so I open up the front coin door again, and I'm looking around for the key before that, and I'm like, wait a second. What's this? Inside, now the game has the original meteor spinner, which is, you know, the uncommon orange one. Did you know that, Ron? Okay. I've seen the orange one, yes. Yes, and that's what it has, and it's in the game. and I look inside and there's a stern, Seabrook stern spinner sitting in the cabinet. Perfect.
    15:46
    Nice, like a bonus. Like a bonus. So I grabbed that, put that in my pocket, tear the game down, bring it outside, and I was out of there by 7 o'clock, got home by 10.30 after getting some dinner.
    15:59
    So we have another meteor. So that's a long-term project. Once I get some stuff moved out of the back of the coop,
    16:07
    the coop is pretty full right now in the back. You mean the Rochester Pinball Collective? Yes, and where can you go to play games at the Rochester Pinball Collective, Ron? 349 West Commercial Street, East Rochester, New York. Yes. Suite 2965. Yes. We have a new sign in the window. You have a new sign in the window. Yes, Stern Pinball, LED sign. Oh. Very bright. Okay. Yeah, so it's amazing. Wait a minute. You allowed LEDs in there? What's going on? In the signage, yes. Oh, okay. It's great for everyone to see. All right. It blinds the people outside, not inside the building. Okay. There you go. See how it works?
    16:45
    So, yes. So that's in the coop. Well, I have another note here. It says stomp. Stomp? How would you know about stomp? Oh, that's right, because stomp is coming. Yay! Yay. Ron and me do not play in Stomp. I wonder if people just listen. Why do they advertise this thing? Our Australian listeners are like, hey, Mike, I can't go to that. You can go to this. Just come up out of here, Mike. You wanker.
    17:13
    It is Thursday, the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th of June. Tickets went on sale two weeks ago, Ron. Uh-huh. 1.35 gets you in for the Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. And the Thursday is a pre-tournament if you like to come out for pre. Pre, yes. I love pre. Ron loves pre. I love pre. We've had 46 people sign up so far. 46 people? So we are two away from certified. And we are over half of the 80 that we talked about. So I wouldn't wait for this one. We might sell out before the end. We might be on the waiting pattern. So get in. The waiting pattern. You might end up on the waiting list, I think. The waiting list of the holding pattern. Okay. The good thing is if you pay before May 1st, you have a chance to get your money back because we're going to get one lucky person who pays their money back.
    18:06
    And anyone who shows up – now, I got a couple of people questioning this. There's two things we're doing also. We're giving away a Pimberg ticket. If you already have a Pimberg ticket, you will get your money back for your Pimberg ticket. But someone else get the Pimberg ticket? Nope. No. Nope. They just get their money back from Pinnberg. Okay. That's the cool thing. So people asked about that. So that's one thing. Second, if you refer somebody to the tournament and it's never played there, you get $15. If you've never played in the Stomp and you say, hey, Ron, you've never played in the Stomp. Come on. You can come on in and refer me. You get $15 back when they show up the day of. So that's pretty cool. Okay, if you've never heard of this before and you play in it, tell them Ron sent you, please. Yeah. Thank you. So I can get my $15. Yeah, that's got to be. Yeah. Look at all the referring I'm doing, and I don't get one red cent. Mm-hmm.
    19:06
    So if you are interested, you can come check it out at Slam Tilt Podcast Facebook page. We have it under our events. I'll post again today.
    19:16
    But we are up to 46, so 34 more spots. We're maxing it out at 80. And there's a lot of people I expected to be in are not in yet, so this can go pretty good. Oh, no. Yep, and we've got a lot of new players coming in from even Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, and Massachusetts, and Maine. Wow. Some bad accent attempts there. Massachusetts. Yes. I don't know how that's spelled. The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit of America. Okay. So, yes, come on out. Enjoy. Get your money in before you miss out. Enjoy the RPC. And meet Ron and hug Ron. No, don't hug me. Hug Ron. How was TPF? All right. Perfect segue. Yes. Of course. I know exactly what I'm doing here. I'm a professional. Yeah, I'm trying to blow through this because these two-hour podcasts are killing me. Love it. Trying to get a little more abbreviated action here. Abbreviated action. So the Texas Pinball Festival was this past weekend. It was. And I attended. Yes, he did. So I have a list of all the new stuff that I played. And let's start with this, just because. Blues Brothers.
    20:39
    I got into an argument with what's his name on the fucking Facebook page. Oh, what's his name? Who's the owner of the fucking... Mike. Yeah. I saw a picture of the fucking game, and I'm like, yeah, I can't see it. He goes, well, it's meant for the player. Yeah, but I still can't see the fucking play field. And then another person from the company trying to bash another person. What do you mean you can't see the play field? I have no idea, no frame of reference to what you're talking about. And there's a picture on Facebook from TPF. Uh-huh. Somebody's playing it, and they're like, hey, what do you think? And he's like, oh, this game's garbage, terrible. And you literally could not see the play field. It was so blinded by the LEDs from the songs. No, it's fine. I had no issues seeing the play field. So you're going to buy one. Okay, great. No, I didn't say that. I said I had no issues seeing the play field. I had no issues with the lighting on the play field. Okay. The back box, however, there was like on Elwood, on Dan Aykroyd's face, just like this black line going through his face that I thought was the art. but then i realized it was something behind the light behind the trans light like a wire or something it just looked all fucked up the art looks like placeholder art like okay where's the real art coming yeah it looks like a homebrew but like a like an early homebrew yeah it's worse than a homebrew okay so number one it was broke a lot oh really no this is from a major manufacturer out there. The first day, Friday, it was up for a couple hours and it was broke. It was down the rest of the day. No, surprise. Saturday it was up again. Well, eventually it was up after a couple hours of working on it. Then, with my usual luck, I get in line to play. There's one guy in front of me. After the guy finishes, they shut it off because it's broke again.
    22:38
    So then they work on it for a while and then it comes back on. Then I go back over there, and who's playing it but Dennis Creasel of the Eclectic Gamers podcast and the pinball show. He's on there, and like, wow, dude, he's killing it. He's in multiball with a ball save that never ends. It's just nonstop multiball, and his score is just going up exponentially. Oh, six-digit scoring, by the way.
    23:07
    And, yeah, there were multiple issues. I seen people playing where they just be in multi endlessly with the ball saver just never end The never multi let it drain multiple i got it to end i just tilted that made it tilted that how you make it yeah that made it end they took stars and then they made it shittier where the spinners are in stars they moved them back further especially the one on the right they moved it back and into the the curve where it comes across so it takes all the momentum off and you might get like five spins ah this is a good play field but i think i can make it better yeah try right now oh oh yes oh fuck uh let's leave it let's just keep the flippers everything are fine but i mean it's just no it's i looked up like how much does this thing cost five thousand dollars no no no no the sound isn't good i mean if it's It supposedly has four songs on there. I couldn't hear them. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Yeah. It's just the art is bad. Piece of shit. It had this one Mac thing that it lifts in.
    24:24
    I'm trying to think of what. It's so you can get into this other area, but it, like, fried. I heard the words coil fried at one point. It was one of the times it was down.
    24:35
    Yeah, I just can't see who would ever buy this, any pinball person who would buy this. But remember, it's not for us. Dr. John owns one. Dr. John buys everything. Yes, I know. And he's supporting Australia. He's Australia, mate. Even though it's made in Taiwan.
    24:50
    But it's not for us. No, it's not for us. Mike, the owner said it. It's for the person who just wants a game and their man came. Yeah. You've got to be a programmer to change the rules on it. Yeah, well, that was the other thing. So I'm actually reading the rules, and it's to start multi-ball, you have to complete these three different things and then hit the lock, which is a saucer, and it's almost directly in front of you on the left. So I did that, and the saucer's flashing, but it's flashing an insert that just says build bonus. But according to the instruction card, it's supposed to be the lock, but whatever. I shot it about five or six times, and it rejected every time. It would not stay in the saucer. I could not get it to stick. Well, Ron, it's not meant for pinball players. It's meant for people who just want to have it. Well, it's not meant for me, obviously.
    25:42
    Yeah, it was not good. Yeah. It was not good at all. Yeah, that's a ticket. No. Yeah. No. It's bad. I saw some of the video from it. I was like, ooh. It was pretty bad. It's pretty bad. All right. So that's enough bashing of the poor Blues Brothers. Yeah, we got more bashing to come up, doctor. play dungeons and dragons again yep i got to see the premium for the first time so yeah we had the le and the pro at our launch party last weekend too when you were at tbf i got to see the moving head yes and it was cool yeah it's cool it is cool seeing the dragon move its head around spit out balls yes is it worth two thousand five hundred dollars extra uh no no plus i know a couple people who own them are already selling them yes really yes hi tom graff hi zach oh yeah our zach yes he's selling his too yes so it's like wow you didn't even the thing's not even close to 1.0 and it's like you're not even giving it a chance it's just like no it's so it's it's cool to have a spinner in front of a shot until the spinner blocks the shot wait how does a spinner block a shot. Like, if you don't hit it clean, the spinner will flip around, and then it just doesn't go in smoothly into the hole. I like Owlbear.
    27:03
    Owlbear. For all the talk about how great the call-outs were going to be, I keep hearing the same ones over and over. So hopefully, I haven't put them in yet, but I literally hear the same lines over and over. You have seen an Owlbear. You have done this. And I'm playing the same game every fucking time. All it is is a week later, progress disappears. You know what I've got to do? I've got to fucking play it again. It's that bad with the code. It is. I agree. Totally.
    27:39
    It's just... And then the six ball, multi ball, eight ball, multi ball where I feel like I'm playing Apollo 13. It's not that bad. But I don't know. The thing is, the theme I've never played a game of Dungeons and Dragons I did when I was a kid and I didn't mind it I didn't really have any interest in it but I'll still play it because it's a game I hear they sell it well supposedly Yeah, I think they are selling well I'd like to see more call outs get in the game because I am hearing the same ones especially Michael Dorn from the Dragon I hear the same call outs 12 call, as he said. Yes. I wouldn't even say it's 12. Yeah. At a certain point, he goes, you were, you know, now you've made me mad. You know, I'm like, oh, my God, shut up. I'd rather hear, you are without honor. Honor. Yes, exactly.
    28:32
    I wouldn't be surprised if that's on there. I would love to hear that. Yeah, I mean, who programs Star Trek The Next Generation? No, we know. So, a little swan. Cactus Canyon, I played that with the kit. Mm-hmm. and yeah it is harder to get the parts now yeah you got to hit the saloon doors a couple times get it open and to get it in there then to get it in there i actually didn't even notice the spinner at first the spinner shaped like a uh sheriff's badge okay where is that located it's where was it to the left of the saloon can't be to the left uh okay maybe to the right right It would be right, if anything, yes. See, like I said, I didn't even see it the first time. Wow. I don't think I got deep enough into the game to get any of the new stuff.
    29:20
    You suck. I guess so. But everything had lines, of course. Oh, of course it did. I didn't want to keep getting in line just to find new stuff in Cactus Canyon. But it looked fine. I still love the topper. You know, the guy who draws. I agree with that, yes. Love that. What else do I got here? Merlin's Arcade.
    29:42
    So the new one from Turner Pinball. Yes. So I played that. I feel bad for them because, like, you know, hey, we put out this new game and it got really stumped, literally, from everyone else's new shit coming out. Didn't really. Well, who else's new shit coming out? I think Portal came out. Yep, Portal came out. The Merlin from Medieval Madness coming out. Oh, yeah, which is also called Merlin. Yeah, exactly. So it kind of was like, boy, they really took the sales out of it. So Merlin's Arcade is the John Norris design from Deep Root. This was the one he was going to do for Deep Root. That was like another 8-Ball Deluxe tribute, whatever. It's got, on the right side, it's got stand-ups instead of drops in the 8-Ball Deluxe configuration. and it's got the third flipper on the left, but it's much lower. There is a repeatable loop shot. It's got a spinner that's a foosball table guy, which reminded me of the spinner in Austin Powers. Remember Mini-Me's spinner? Yes, Mini-Me.
    30:53
    I liked Ninja Eclipse better. Yeah. I actually wasn't feeling that layout, I'm afraid to say. And I was psyched because, you know, John Norris is my man, you know. Yes, he is, yes. You know, bad girls, my surfing safari that I got downstairs. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. I was looking forward to it, but it just didn't really do it for me. Remember, my stage is of, like, it has to, the first thing is the layout. I got to like shooting it before I even get on to the other stuff.
    31:22
    I mean, it didn't shoot bad or anything. There wasn't anything egregious in it. I just, it just wasn't really doing it for me. which is saying something because there's a repeatable loop shot. Usually that's enough to make me happy. You would think.
    31:36
    Yeah, I don't know. That thing had some of the longest lines because they just had two of them there. Ah.
    31:42
    Yeah, I like the concept. It has all these different games, arcade games. The art was fine. I like the way Ninja Eclipse shoots better. Okay.
    31:53
    Plus, Ninja Eclipse, I think, was 100. This one, they're going to try to sell 500. I don't know. We'll see.
    32:03
    We'll see. They at least seem to have a play. I mean, they seem to know what they're doing. I'll say that. Yeah. Especially if you see under their play field, it's very clean under there. Their play fields, I think. It's a clean machine. Isn't it like acrylic play field? It feels different. Like the ball kind of glides along.
    32:23
    Portal. Portal, Multimorphic had their display because they're Texas-based. So they had like every game. They had every game they've done there.
    32:35
    You know, Lexi Lightspeed, Final Resistance was there. Hooray. I love myself some Final Resistance. They had three portals, which they probably should have had more portals because they had long lines. They had, I think, two. See, the portal has two different versions. There's the extended. which has playfield elements that actually are in front of the usual, because usually it's just the back third. Yes, back quarter. But they have one that actually has ramps that come down, and I think it's called the extended, and then they have the other one. Yeah, the regular version. From what I heard, 98% of the kits they've sold for Portal have been the extended. Of course.
    33:17
    And I can tell you, I was thinking about this. It's so funny. The last couple of new games that came out, for the first time I can ever remember, were themes that I was clueless on. Yeah, totally. Dungeons & Dragons and Portal, where I have no clue, just nothing. I've never heard of Portal until this game came out. Yeah, me too. Totally agree. We're just old, though. Yeah, it's true. I had kind of a shitty game, so I wasn't very representative of it. I didn't really get into anything, because I suck so bad. And I also, I always got to, whenever you play a multi-morphic, a P3 game, you have to remember if the ball is coming down the in lane and you flip while it's on the in lane it's like it it bounces it over to the other in lane it's like it's called like the p3 pass i always forget that and i do it the first time on attention unintentionally like oh shit fuck when i started portal the first thing that comes up is the button mapping here is what the six buttons do and already you lose me you've already lost i'm already done at that point like no no No, I just need two buttons. Two glibber buttons, please. Please, no. I can maybe do four if it's in a pinch. I can maybe do an action button. Maybe I can do Magda Save buttons, but, man, six buttons. Tap, tap, tap, tap. But I will say the extended, that's the way to go. They got it. Like all their kits going forward, they need to do that. Yeah, I agree. I really feel it made a big difference. It felt way more like a pinball machine. Yeah. With those things coming in, because they do extend. They're almost right in front of you. Which is cool. That's what it should be. And if they can just do this with some of their newer kits going forward, I think that would be good.
    35:04
    Did you listen to any of Jerry, the owner's interview on Loser Kid? No. No, I did not yet. I have been very busy, actually, at work.
    35:16
    Just a couple things he said. I wish they would stop. which owners of companies wouldn't be mentioning other companies? You know what I mean? Like one of his arguments about a P3 was the fact that P3, the current P3 system, is more powerful from a computing standpoint than both Stern and Jersey Jack, like what they're putting out now.
    35:40
    Right? And that might be totally true. It could be totally true, but it depends on gameplay. Instead, our P3 system from 10 years ago is still more powerful than what Sturdy Jersey Jack is doing now. Okay, but still, it depends on what it plays like. That is what 99.4% of the people want. Don't use that as an argument, and don't mention other manufacturers. No, I know. Stop. Owners of pinball companies, stop mentioning other manufacturers, at least in that fashion. Yeah. It didn't work for Robert Mueller. Listen, brother. Wilson, brother, stir sucks. We're going to totally do it, dude. I might just be saying this because I want to talk like Hulk Hogan, brother. And I'm a fanboy of Williams.
    36:22
    But don't do that. I know. But Portal, people seem to like it. That's good. Especially people who know what Portal is. Yeah.
    36:33
    Yeah. And kudos to Mark Silk, who we had on the show. I got to hear him a lot. Good. He's in Portal. Nice. Yeah, I mean they had big lines for Portal Every time I walked by Big prizes So maybe they should have brought more Portals Big money, big prizes I love it Alright, what do we got I went to the Hover section Yes And I played Tony Hawk Pro Skater Okay And it is crazy That's good I can't see anyone be able to mass produce those It's got crazy shit in it. Yeah. It is quite insane. But it also has kind of an assumption that you played Tony Hawk Pro Skater.
    37:21
    Because I was in some kind of mode, and then the flippers just died. And then the guy was explaining to me how it's like the game where you have it. It's a timer, and you have a certain amount of time. And I was just like, yeah, I've never played Tony Hawk Pro Skater. He was looking at me like, what? Like, how is that possible? You've never played Tony Hawk Pro Skater. It's very easy. I have never either. I also played Mad Max. Okay. And it was okay.
    37:51
    It had... I can feel the love and excitement. No, it had a key. You turn the key to start. I liked that. Who else did that? It was Checkpoint? Checkpoint. Yeah, I was trying to think. It wasn't the only game I remember doing that. Yeah. Checkpoint. They worked on the game right before I played it, and I swear they must have taken 10 balls out of it. I was just counting like, Jesus Christ, how many? And then I don't think I ever got a multi-ball. It's like, damn it, I wanted to see what happened. I failed. Jesus Christ.
    38:22
    Then before I get into any more games, there was a big announcement. Yes, what was the announcement, Ron? That just came out of nowhere. And I think this one I'm actually going to play. Ooh, live. I don't know what's going on here. I'm going to be professional at everything. So, basically, during the Jersey Jack seminar on Friday, it was the Jersey Jack seminar about Avatar. Okay. So they had the Avatar crew there, and they're talking about Avatar. They get to the Q&A section of the seminar, and somebody asks, just a standard question everyone asks, what's the next game for Jersey Jack? You know, the kind of thing that no one ever answers. No, never responds. They'll say, like, you'll see it when it's out, or it's going to be great. You're going to love it. This is the game that's the most important game, that one that's on the line. The one that's on the line. Well, to everyone's surprise, Jack did answer the question, which we're going to listen to his answer right now. You ready? Yep. Okay. Now, remember, the question was, what's Jersey Jack's next game? The next Jersey Jack game, it's Harry Potter. We know that. you know the delay is a bit like what what the fuck i would not spend a dime out of your pocket until you see the game i wouldn't spend anything nothing not even for avatar and if i'm wrong when you see the game you let me know it's gonna be spectacular uh of course it's gonna be jersey Jack said that. Yeah, Jack, we're trying to sell avatars here. It took me ten years to get the license. But Jack, we're trying to sell avatar. Avatar, Jack. That's millions of dollars. Jack, avatar. Avatar. We have all your movies. Jack. We have all the assets. Avatar!
    40:17
    I can't wait to see the internet blow up. Jack! We're trying to sell avatar! If you think Wizard of Oz was something, you're going to love the game. That ain't the fucking game I'm playing! Avatar!
    40:36
    What the hell are you doing? And Mark Seiden, the designer for Avatar, is sitting right next to him. I know, he must have been like, what the fuck are you doing, asshole? You can see his reaction when he sits there. He's probably like, oh.
    40:47
    But holy shit, all the distributors are going, what the fuck are you doing? Oh, man. Now, you know, he's trying to be the sales guy because he's the sales guy. Of course he is. And he's trying to say, like, don't buy any other manufacturer's games. He's not saying don't buy Avatar, but that's not how it says. That's not how it comes out. Don't buy anything. What? Jack, Jack, we're here for Avatar. Yeah, it's going to be the greatest game. But Jack, Avatar. No, no, no, no. I'm like, holy fuck. It's going to be the greatest game. It took me 10 years to get the license. I'm surprised he didn't get tackled by somebody, by Jersey Jack Bamball. Like, boom, Jack. I'm surprised, like, Ken Cromwell, their marketing guy, doesn't just jump up on stage and like stop stop knock the fucking he's not well he's not well he doesn't know what he's saying call an ambulance he's having a stroke it's just not holy fuck doing no no no i know exactly okay i i know exactly what happened there what happened david fix put the jersey jack mask on it went up there so that was david fix the skies david fix these guys he takes the mask off that's right baby don't buy anything because that's something he would do i i think that's where he learned it from jersey jack you speak you speak of american i my father actually brought this up when we were going around the hall yeah the show hall in the very back and the farthest corner there is the american row oh no which was it wasn't totally american But it was basically it had, you know, it had the barbecue, Hot Wheels, Galactic Tank Force, and just ABBA was sitting there on the road.
    42:37
    And my father was looking at it like, wow, they put that way in the back. It's like the Island of Misfit Games. They just put the poor games in the back. I felt sorry for them. They had no presence either at the show. I mean, there's nobody there. Well, they don't have anybody. Yeah, that's true. Wait a sec. Who's going to answer the phone? Oh, that's right. Nobody answers the phones there. But it was just like, oh, man, that made me sad. Oh, it's just terrible. But back to Jack. Yes. What the fuck are you doing? Shut up. Sell your game that you're there for right now. You have this whole panel of the people who worked on Avatar, put blood, sweat, and tears in this game. and you want to be Joe Cool and say, everyone knows it's a, you know. Yeah, but the thing is, you don't say it until it's like a week, unless it's coming out next week, which it didn't. Unless it's coming out, don't say anything because now you've just screwed yourself on your own. Because guess what? If I really like Avatar, but I really like Harry Potter, now I got to spend $25,000 on this game? No, I'm going to say, fuck Avatar. I'm going to say I'm going to wait like Jersey Jack said. The thing is. Jeez, Lou, fucking wheeze. The timing is bad. Oh, it's totally bad. For Harry Potter to be released because guess who's up for Stern? Keith. Keith Elwin. But I think the theme they have them beat on. I think they beat Stern on the theme. Well, yes. Because they did. They did. They beat him, yes. if they market it correctly they could really hit a home run if they actually get some actors well he said as we're laughing over his announcement no he got all the movies yes all the assets he said so but now if you get a couple people who were in the movie and i'm not talking about the b people i'm talking about the a people like you get harry potter you get a couple of the other people and you get them in your video you know say you know doing something that would be the fucking home run because you know what harry potter people will spend buku fucking bucks they spend it down to universal they spend it on everything they go to all these you know shows and everything they spend the money do it right guys on the marketing plug the shit out of it they could get lindsey lohan right she was uh no she was not that's not Lindsay Lohan. Well, that was in the Saturday Night Live skit. That's what I'm going by. Oh, that's not her? No. I'm sorry. But you get Daniel Craig. You get anyone who the kids are, you know, and they can plug it. Don't get one of the B kids. Don't get the ones in the background. Don't they have a kid named Ron? Yes. All right. Yes. See? But if you do it right, you can make a killing. But unfortunately, you just killed one of your own pinball machines with that one 10-second blurb. Yeah. And that's bad marketing. Even though he's supposed to be the best at selling games, you kind of killed your own. You killed the golden goose. It's like you know what he was going for. Oh, you know what he was going for. It kind of backfired there. Oh, totally, especially when you're on a panel talking about your current game. Next to the designer of said current game. Exactly. It's like going up and saying, like, hey, you know, we just built this Indiana Jones. but hey our next game is going to be star trek next generation and you're at a you know uh uh you know convention that would have been interesting yeah exactly but that's what exactly what it is it's like jesus fucking christ shut up i like that playing the clip live that was that was good that was good oh he's just going off like yes i mean i was acting like the designer Shut up. Jack.
    46:30
    With Bruce Nightingale as Mark Simon Yes Jesus fucking Christ I can see him starting to I guarantee you the flight must have been so great coming back from Texas.
    46:42
    Hey, Mark, you haven't said one word to me. Shut up, Jack. This was my moment. They had a nice display there. They had all their games. Yes, they had. They had a bunch of avatars. They had Elton John's, Godfather's, Toy Story, et cetera. And Guns N' Roses. El Guns and Roses. But we all know Elton John's the best. Elton John is the best. I will agree with that.
    47:07
    I'm Steve Ritchie, and I was there, too. Did you play my game? It's great. So was it busier than normal, average crowd? Less. It has gone down. Basically, two years ago, so 2023, that's when everything debuted, and it was crowded as fuck, and that's when I actually was considering not going the next year because it was so crowded. It was giving me California Extreme vibes where I can't get across the hall and stuff. If you notice, we haven't been to California Extreme in almost 10 years. Then 2024, the next year, they moved a bunch of games out into the hall. They changed the setups inside a little bit, and there was less people there, and it was much, much better. You can breathe. This year, I would say there was even less. Wow. Which, I mean, sounds bad, but for an attendee? It's great. I got to play what I wanted. It wasn't horrifically crowded, but you could see sections of the floor that were empty. Actually, my father was just like pointing, like, hey, look at that. That whole section, there's nothing in there. I was like, yeah. Oh, wow. Go figure. Yeah, go figure. Yeah. So who else did you see down there? Well, I saw the triple drain guys were all down there. Oh, nicey-nicey. We played the trivia. They had the trivia that the Pinball News, Pinball Magazine guys do. And I learned that I should just memorize all their questions because they repeated about 85% to 90% of them from the previous year. Oh, cute. Yeah, and I'm like, wait a minute. They asked that last year. That's fucking awesome. So if you had a good memory.
    48:52
    You're a winner. Yes, I think I got a couple of them because I just remembered them from last year. But I just kept – the way they do it, it's the only way you could do it with that many people. They ask a question, and there's two answers, and you get in one line or another line, depending on which answer you think it is. And it breaks it down each way. And it breaks it down. One side gets eliminated, and you keep doing that until you get to, like, four or five people, and then you can go up and get your prizes. Nice. And I got up there, and I got myself a Jaws banner.
    49:20
    Yeah! Yeah, that's what I wanted, a banner. So that worked out for me. There you go. Yeah. I think once you win something, you win a banner or anything. Well, the banner is the second top prize. They have one play field, which is the top prize. That's cool. If you win a banner or the play field, you're out. You can't do anymore. Yeah, exactly. Makes sense. Yeah, I did that. Talked a lot with Mr. Franchi. Good. He's going to kick your ass, Bruce. Why is that? He's going to kick your ass. Pissed him off. All your hate. You have too much hate, Bruce. I do. Did you see what I posted on Facebook yesterday? What did you post on Facebook, Bruce? Go look. I want you to look live. Come on. Go look. Look live. I want you to get closer to the mic, Bruce. I'm close. There you go. We're actually looking at something. I'm actually drinking. Oh, you're drinking. Alcohol? Yes, I wish. No, go look on Facebook. Go look on Facebook. Isn't this exciting, folks? Oh, wait a minute. You're going to give me the actual page to go to. No, just go right on the main page. Okay. You mean our main page? Yes. All right. Slam Tilt. I'm clicking on Slam Tilt, and we got – wait a minute. I'm the asshole.
    50:30
    It's a book. It's a children's book. Yes. That's you, Bruce. That surprises me. That is me. You've got a redhead in the – Yes, exactly. Jeez.
    50:39
    So why is Mr. Franchi mad at me? Oh, those things you said in The Evil Dead. Oh, because the game sucks. Everyone loves it, and they're all fucking stupid. Oh. And how can you sell out of the – Oh, he's like, hold on. I'm going to go into this one now. How can you sell out of a game when you sell it to your distributor? Who's still going to sell the game? That is true. Well, they announced all 888 Evil Deads have sold out. Yes. But by sell out, meaning that their distributors have them. So if you want one, go to your distributor. The way you say that, that's a shitty way of saying it. That's semantics, and that's how I would say it if I was them. It sounds good.
    51:16
    You say potato. I say potato. All right. well i saved evil dead for last verse i know evil dead so i got to play evil dead have you played evil dead bruce not at all you know our zach has played evil dead great you were on the thread bruce and he didn't seem to hate it i know he didn't quite the opposite which kind of threw me off there yes i totally agree and he said a comment that i'm gonna rip off but i've heard the same comment at the show and i have to agree completely it is the least spooky spooky i've ever played i've heard that now you can take that as a good thing or as a complete insult actually it's kind of both but i think it's kind of both i completely agree so uh franchi if you wanna i'm gonna well hold on popping the knuckles maybe i played i played evil dead okay did uh did he get you up front for that did he like excuse me guys no no wait a sec if i played oh hold on i played it before i even saw him okay okay that's one thing they had i counted 10 evil deads in the spooky booth so the lines were not it was way better than a lot of the other displays because just because they have way more games yeah um what was i saying oh yeah and well we're waiting i thought it was awesome oh wow so you're buying that uh yes what yes i put a down payment on on evil dead wow you heard it here first folks yes i played it and you so i was thinking about this you know when you play a pinball game the whole idea is you hit lit shots in the end that's Yeah. That's the whole game. That's the theory. It's like things, lighty-blinky, shoot that. Yeah. So what the games are trying to do is make it not feel like that's what you're doing. True. That's all that is. You know, that's the issue I always had with Star Trek was no matter what it did, it just felt like, okay, this thing is starting. Okay, hit this color. Okay, this thing is starting. Hit this color. I never felt it had any personality. As opposed to something like, and you'll laugh at me, of course, dialed in, where every mode is very different. It's distinctive. It has its own character, its own goofy narrator that's telling you what to do, all that stuff. And that's why I always liked it. This game, Evil Dead, each mode is like a different scene from one of the two movies, Evil Dead or Evil Dead 2. And by the second game, I was already like, okay, this is the spinner one. Oh, this is the this one. This is the that one. I was totally invested. just within the second game.
    54:09
    Dead silence. And the fact that this thing is, just this has to have the highest bill of materials of any game they've ever made. It is absolutely, it's packed to the point where I totally forgot about the trolls.
    54:21
    Of course, I think they're deadites, but I call them trolls. They're troll mechs. Like I'm playing, and there's all this shit on the play field, and I start this one mode, hit the blue arrows or whatever. I go to hit them, and the fucking trolls, they pop up, blocking me. I'm like, you motherfucker. God damn it. Hit those guys. The hand on the side, it has the third flipper, kind of like the Starship Troopers. It's even got the second button for the flipper, like the same way Starship Troopers does.
    54:53
    You almost never use it to the point where I forgot. I'm like, wow, that sling really sucks over there. It's not like, oh, you dumbass. That's not a sling. It's a flipper, you fool. but there is a mode where you need to hit the hand and it is really hard to hit the hand from the lower right flipper but from that flipper it's super easy to hit the hand and you can just load it up you hit the right ramp it comes right down you put the flipper up it stops it right on top of the flipper lower the flipper boom you nail you nail the hand super fun even like their boxes their new boxes they're using for the games themselves now have art on them if you got the topper the box for the topper looks all fancy i was impressed and i like evil dead so well that's a big thing well yes yes i love me some bruce campbell although the like the first thing i ever saw bruce campbell in was actually um what's the adventures of briscoe county junior oh god yes i actually like this show i remember burn notice you know a couple of things you know i didn't really wasn't into the evil dead still ain't but the funny thing is it starts off as horror with slight comedy and an evil dead it's like almost half and half and then army of darkness isn't even horror anymore it's just screwball comedy So Yes I've silenced Bruce with that He doesn't know what to say Because guess what I don't know why you would spend Which one did you get There's only one Bruce There's only one this time Good Sucker And I got the topper too Oh Jesus fucking Christ Oh come on that topper is winning twippy of the year right there Twippy topper of the year Loud doubt
    56:47
    dead silence. He's just got nothing. Dead silence. You can't even revel in my joy. Nope, I cannot. Not at all. It's just like, you got that? Wow. Yeah. Wow.
    57:01
    That's what I like, the great encouragement of a fellow panhandler. Okay. Yeah, that's the ticket. Yeah. Yeah, but everyone else I talked to loved it also. Yeah, that's good. So, yeah, I would say it was one of the hits of the show. Mm-hmm. Good.
    57:21
    The hits keep on coming. Okay, Bruce. Don't bring me down, down. Except for the ball bag. Oh, my. Uh-huh. Hopefully it's not talking about Evil Dead.
    57:34
    We can only hope. God, I hope not. I like how I compared it to Dialed In. I'm sure that'll make even a little bit more.
    57:42
    All right. You just said it like, hey, Evil does great. It reminded me of, we're going to be selling Harry Potter instead of Avatar.
    57:53
    That's what it did to me. This is from the bastard son of Pinbot. Bad app. Hello. He says, no, Mr. Bond, I expect you to try. Oh, my. Okay. Hey, guys, just listen to your episode 247. I can't believe you guys said there were only two Bond pinball games. Yeah, we screwed that up, too, because there's the Gottlieb one. Yes. The Stern one. Yes. Actually, two Stern ones. So there's at least three. And then there's the GoldenEye. So there's four Bonds. We totally fucked that up. Two Stern ones? What do you mean two Stern ones? He says you're missing the regular Bond and then the Elwynn Bond. Oh, yeah. You're missing the best one, Sega's GoldenEye. Yeah, that is the best one. I agree. I would love to get a Gold. I would love to get a golden eye. I like golden eye. I mean, it's got a satellite dish. Yeah, I know. An extreme crotch rot. Yeah. Oh, from the magnet. Yeah. But that's all right. You did correctly identify that Diamonds Are Forever is a great movie. Yes. It almost jumps the shark campy. Yeah. But that's what makes it great. Yes, Mr. Kidd. Yes, Mr. Wendt. Might I also suggest A View to a Kill? That's a pretty bad one. He does, and it's Christopher Walken, who is great. Yes, he is. As a villain, and makes up for everything else in the entire film. And Grace Jones was good, too. Yes. But Patrick McNee, who I was a big fan of, The Avengers, the old British TV show, and he was John Steed, and he totally gets punked out in that movie, and that pissed me off. Also, you are correct in that Thunderball is painful to watch. Yes, underwater fight sequences are not.
    59:35
    Even Jackie Chan couldn't make it work. and he had a scene where he's in there with a shark that's swimming right above him. The only underwater fight scene redeeming in the history of cinema is the underwater bar fight in Top Secret. If you haven't seen it on YouTube, it's definitely worth a watch. I'm also disappointed in both of you for not knowing what Portal is. Wow. We're old, man. Yeah, what the hell, you goddamn young whippersnappers. It seems like a video game that you both would absolutely appreciate. I heard about, like, solving puzzles and immediately, I don't want to think. You're trapped in a chamber armed with a gun where you have to use critical thinking and puzzle solving to escape. That seems as far away from what I would want to play as possible. Meanwhile, you're being endlessly heckled and told you are shit. Okay, so just like the podcast. Okay, I got you. Just like those shitty classic Stern games you guys peddle all the time. What? Wow. Wow, son of Pinbot, you are just fucking up now. You're constantly bashing your head into the wall until eventually you escape. Sincerely, the original STD.
    60:46
    Portal. Once you get the solving puzzles, then you lose me. I like puzzles. I like solving them. I like Zork. I'm a Zork guy. I think we brought this up before. Yeah, we brought this up. And I didn't know what it was then. Go west, go east, go north, go south, climb. If you got a puzzle book, the ones that have all kinds of different puzzles, which ones would you like? I like the reverse words. You have to look for words in a jumble of words. See, I like – what do they call them? They call them crisscrosses. They're the ones where they give you all the words, and you've got the grid, and you've got to fit them all in. Oh, no. Fuck that. Yeah, especially when you don't get the first one. so you have to go through like eight different iterations of words that are possible before you can eliminate, you know. You could try to eliminate seven of the eight until you get the right one.
    61:38
    That's the one I would do. Wow. What? That bad. No, nothing, Ron. Ron, we're good. You just have these little twerks that we all have to deal with. Twerks? I'm twerking? You're twerking, baby. You're twerking on your workbook. Okay. Let's see. This next one is from Cole. Hi, Cole. Hello, Cole. Just random thoughts. Uh-oh. Hey, Cornholios. Listening to you talk. Hey, listening to you talk about Bond films. Wow, Bond is very popular. I can only think of Bruce as James Bond and Ron as Q. What? I'm Q. No, yes, that's perfect. Very funny, 007. I would appreciate you bringing all your equipment back for once when you return from the field. I'm going to be banging in your equipment, buddy. Oh. Oh, yes, Mr. Bond. Yes, about that. Jesus. I'm going to reject the luggage afterwards. Yes, James. I have to talk about those stains that were in the Aston Martin. What were those? It took a while to get those out.
    62:39
    Don't worry about it, Q. As he always has to fix Bruce's shit when editing the podcast. True. Fuck yeah. I guess that means the pinball princess is Moneypenny and you're Zack. Oh, God. What would Zack be? He's the bad guy. M. No, he's M. No, he's the bad guy. He is the energy vampire. and according to Ron has God complex what did I say is a God complex I just said he's always right no you did say he had a God complex you did it one time I'm glad you remember that one line I said in 240 something episodes who knew Zach's new house was a cave and a volcano either that or the bad guys would be Robert Mueller Jay Poop, Andrew Highway as the heads of Spectre trying to ruin pinball all that need to take a fist Wow. We got the five bots. That would be interesting in Thunderball when they have the big table. All the different Spectre people there. They're all the different owners. You got Robert Mueller there. Jay Pop is there. And Mueller gets put through the floor. Mr. Mueller, we see you have been not reporting correct numbers. Oh!
    63:48
    As far as you're talking about Zach going bald, After seeing him on stream, I can only imagine the most awesome comb-over you have ever seen. Oh, I cannot wait. You could just keep wrapping his hair around it like a turban.
    64:01
    After bitching about how dialed in in Star Wars sucks, which they do, hey. Which they do. I have found a game that is even worse that I've had to play in league play.
    64:12
    Spectrum. No. Or as my son and I call it, Rectum. I like that. Rectum. I hardly knew him. um see listening to bruce complain about how his ass hurt in the last episode i just figured it was a normal friday night for him taking the fist yes oh my that's exactly what he said i follow the bill clinton motto of don't ask don't tell yes to each their own be yourself bruce and let your freak flag fly wait a minute you you turned you turned a blur song into a country song yeah but it's more like what the hell is that called again it's like song two or some bizarre title that's for your t-shirt to sell it should be your guys logo but well with the Blues Brothers hat and sunglasses and it should say it's 226 miles to Rochester. We have a full slate of games, half a pack of quarters. Dwight is blinding, and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it.
    65:27
    Why 226 miles? That's the distance from Albany to Rochester. Oh, and Silver Ball Chronicles can be found on the Pinball Network. Only for one more episode.
    65:38
    Now you're going to have to find a new tagline. We are now alone in the world, like the Slam Hill Podcast. We're independents, bro. So one of your STD faithfuls looking forward to episode 250 Clusterbuck. Yeah, I cannot wait. I can. Oh, and I want to tell everyone, if you guys want to send in a video or just a sound clip thanking us for 250, Ron will put these all in and edit it all into the show. So definitely make more work for Ron. I will put videos in. We don't have video. Okay, but we'll do audio. Unless you send a video, like you only want to record a video, he'll take the audio from that. Bruce will take it and put it on Facebook. There you go. Yeah, I will. I would do that. Okay. But, yeah. But, no, we definitely want to get you on. Everyone wants to join us for $2.50, Ron. Oh, stop. It's a big event. No, it's an epic event. It's a big event. I'm sending this next email to you. Uh-oh. I got to go get my email. Yeah. Well, it's because you're going to have to get something. So you're not going to be able to do that now. But it says, hey, Bruce. well the subject is embryon part two it's from ed he says hey bruce is there any way possible for you to take a picture of your right flipper button switches with the diode placement on embryon i'm having a hard time finding pictures of this anywhere online thank you guys for answering my part number question on the last podcast greatly appreciated so ed i have sent this to bruce so bruce doesn't send you a picture it's all on him it's all on me okay cool let's see next email The beer pressure, I can't handle it. Yes. Sometimes you've got to do work, you know. You've got to support the community. What? Okay. This is from Rabia. I met him at Expo. Actually, two years in a row. Did he give you a hug? No. What? It says, hey, Ron and Bruce. How are you guys? Good? Thanks. Me too. Ron, how excited are you about Harry Potter from a scale of 1 to 10? Negative 7. No. So even though I've never seen a movie, I'd say seven, just because they're going to hype it up to the absolute extreme. So just to see what the hell they're going to do. My wife is a 10 plus. Since they have all the movies, all the assets. Avatar!
    68:00
    Avatar! Okay. With one rooming. Oh, he's doing the scales. One to 10. With one rooming with Bruce on a seven-day Bahama cruise with no pinball, and 10, being rooming with Gene Simmons on a Kiss-themed cruise on all the Kiss pinball machines on free play. It's still a one for Ron. No, Gene Simmons will not play pinball with you unless you upgrade to the VIP pass for an extra $1,000. Yes. Yes, I will. For that $1,000, I will play Kiss pinball. Let's see, Harry Potter. I was thinking it would be cool if there was a golden ball that released a la Twilight Zone. Twilight Zone? Oh. Yeah, like the Powerball. It would just be a golden ball. Well, if it's a golden ball, it could be gold ball. A gold finger. A la Twilight Zone. That is the, I don't know what this is, Quidditch? Yes, Quidditch is a game that they play in Harry Potter. Oh, okay, golden snitch thing, and the goal will be to capture it via a series of shots that ends in a scoop, etc. Yes. In other news, I will be heading to the Midwest Gaming Classic again this year to compete in the main tournament. 96 players this time, up from 60-plus, and I think we have our own special tournament room. there's maybe a chance jjp will reveal harry potter at mjc what do you think bruce nope nope if so i will report back with my initial thoughts impressions happy flipping slam tilt out thank you rabia i like he put the phonetic spelling again but i remember it i remember it let's see move that to the old archive archives okay here we go this next one is from ian ian says, oh, I love when they start off with correction. Like, oh, no, we're being corrected. It's the subject, final resistance and tables. Oh, no, tables. Correction from your past episode. I was catching up on episodes on my travel to TPF and heard your conversation about Final Resistance being out of production at Multimorphic Wrong Final Resistance is still in production for both new machine purchases and module orders. Oh. Well, there you go. I stand corrected. My understanding is that there are modules in stock, so you can order it and get it almost immediately. Almost immediately! Moreover, all modules from Lexi through the Princess Bride are still in production.
    70:17
    Now, the more controversial part, tables. Okay, with the recent retaliatory tariffs Canada put on U.S. goods, I was surprised to discover that the Canadian government officially calls them pin tables.
    70:31
    Well, they're fucking whack jobs. It is right there in the import code 9504.30.00. It was nice chatting with Ron at TPF. Hey, so then we just put in pinball machine and we're good. We don't get tariffed. E-N-H. Don't even try to pronounce it, Bruce.
    70:49
    I'm going to say it like Judas Priest. How fun! Let's see. And here it is. It says video game consoles and machines, table or parlor games. They spelled parlor wrong with the U. Including pin tables.
    71:08
    It says right there. If you can send a pinball machine, you're good. Yeah. I'm just going to say, yeah, just buy pinball machines. Don't buy pen tables and you're all set. And you're all set. You're all set. All right. Thank you, Ian. That is Ian, one of the programmers of Portal.
    71:26
    A big game called Port-A-Potty. That'd be interesting. Might be the next American. Who knows? No. They can't even get that out. Ah! It just has nothing but toilets in it. This next one is, last one. Last one, hey! It's from Soren. Hey, Soren. I haven't heard from Soren in a while. We have not. We thought we lost him. Well, he must have perked his interest because we... Perked his interest or peaked his interest? Peaked. Yeah, well, we talked about the Doctor Who and what can be done to make it less sucky with the continuous, never-ending sonic booms. Sonic boom! He says, hi, guys. Great show as always. Fixing Doctor Who? I would bring the repair targets into play. Are those the ones way on the right? Yes. That's almost like Joel Pulser-like targets where there's a ton of them. I have no idea what they do, and certainly no one likes to shoot them. So, okay, here's his idea. After a certain threshold of sonic booms achieved, it would require repair completion to enable million loops in sonic boom. I like that. And side ramps made before enable will only give pity points and a reminder to complete repair targets on the DMD. No, since you've got to repair it, you take away points. And on 4X Achieve, return the ball to lower left flipper. Early in this phase of Sonic Boom difficulty, repair targets can run with friendly neighbors. So if you hit one, it's the one next to it, too. Two level things. In a highest level competition, you might also want to narrow the side ramp entrance. Done! Done. Well, there you go. Soren's got it all figured out. Well, I'll expect to see that ROM available at Planetary Pinball in the next couple of weeks.
    73:12
    Thank you, Soren. Thank you very much, Saw. There we go. Is my ball bag empty? Your ball bag's empty, Bruce.
    73:22
    Jesus. Never gets old. Only 248 times I've done that. Yes. Really? Every episode ever? Mostly. Okay, we'll say 200. Yeah, there's probably been at least a couple episodes where we didn't have a ball bag, which seems crazy now to not have emails. I know. God, we get a lot of them. Thank you, everyone who does email us. And if you're on the fence, come and email us. Or give us your sound quote for Ron to put in episode 250. Or give us your credit card number. Yeah. We need a deposit for our new Patreon. No, Harry Potter.
    74:02
    You know what? How much do you think it's going to cost you? 15K. Well, wait a minute. That's what the current one costs. No, 15K minimum. Oh, okay. Currently, it's $12K for the lower model and $15K for the upper model. So you think it's just $15K for the lower model. Let's go $13K, $5K, and $16K. Okay. $13K, $5K, and $16K. That's my number. What are you thinking? I'll go with that. Do you think there'll be another model instead of the two? No, no, no. He's learned his lesson. So no lesser model? No. But how about even a more upper model? Like it's in gold. It's literally 24 karat gold. Yeah, no, not at all. Okay. No, he's hitting the ceiling of the old roof, and he can't go any higher. Yeah, I think they hit it a while ago. Yeah, I think so, too, but we'll keep on spending. This just came up, actually. This was going on while we were recording, so I might as well get this in here now. Oh, my. Because I get yelled at. The Women's North American Championship. Yes. The winner was Miriam Nadler, or Nadler. I'm sure I said it wrong, but I got the Miriam part right. She defeated Kaylee Campbell in the finals. Yep. Snicket. And, no, that's the other one, Bruce. Which isn't here, actually. IFPA, you need to update your links. The actual Women's World Championships, the link just goes to qualifying. Oh, cute. So I have no idea who won until I actually saw it on Facebook. So it was congratulations to Carrie Wing. There you go. No congratulations all. Congratulations to all. It was in New Hampshire somewhere. Yes, Wizard World or something like that. Yeah, I did not see any of it. I was quite busy this weekend. I jumped down for like 15 or 20 minutes. That was about it. Ah, and probably made some really inappropriate comments in chat or something. No, no. I was listening in the background, and then I got busy, and I just – my wife's like, what are you watching? I'm trying to watch the women's finals. She's like, no, I'm going to watch something else. Okay. Turn that off. Damn pinball. Pinball. Unless it's talking about Harry Potter. Oh, God.
    76:05
    Oh, yeah. What are you going to do if that comes out? You're going to have to buy it. I'm going to have to fucking bend over.
    76:13
    Oh, Jersey Jack, be gentle. I'm sure all the positive things you said about him, he's just no issues getting a discount on the game. Yeah, of course, a discount.
    76:26
    Who was that, Bruce from Slam Tilt? Oh, the price goes up for him. Yeah, fuck him. Actually, I want to take a big dump in his game. Yeah, steamer. He'll do an upper decker. I'll put the steamer in the head. Oh, God. Ew.
    76:43
    All right. I have repairs. Repairs. God, I hate my life of repairs. I'll go first then. Mine's easy because I just got a game. Oh, what did you get, Ron? I didn't even mention this. I know exactly what you got, but you can tell us. Because I said Evil Dead, and you just went dead silent. Yeah, because you didn't get that yet. It just killed our conversation. It did. No, that'll be at the end of the year probably. I know what you got. You sent a picture of the box. I got a Foo Fighters. You got a Foo Fighters. A Foo Fighters Pro. I'm pro-ing it. It's funny. I took it out of the box. Guess what the date of manufacture was on it. Just get the month and the year.
    77:22
    October 24. Oh, man. If you just said October 23, you would have been correct. October 23. So it's been sitting in a box over a year? Yeah, a year and a half. Holy fuck. It's at the factory. Holy fuck. Yeah. I guess they're not selling. Yeah, now we know why it's in the retirement bin. Yeah, Jesus Christ. But the thing is, it's funny. I'm thinking like, wow, that's so old. That won't have anywhere near the latest code on it. And I looked. I got the Expression Light speaker kit thing for it. And the software that supports that was in the latest release, which was October 2024. Wow. So I literally have to upgrade the thing first before I can even put the kit in. Otherwise, it won't do anything with the kit. Soinks. So do you enjoy your new game, sir? I haven't set it up yet. Oh, okay. I'm doing the usual going through it. I haven't replaced all the coil stops yet. But I did, again, the clip for the coin box wasn't there. The coin box was almost falling out, if you remember this happened. But this time I actually found it in the back of the game, so it must have fell off. It must have fell off. It had that rough riding. They must do something to those trucks from Chicago to Auburn. The other weird thing I couldn't figure out is if you look at the bottom of any certain game, wherever there's a T-nut, they put a screw next to it so the T-nut can't back out. Can't back out, yes. That's exactly right. On mine, it was missing three of them. Oh, well, I guess they backed out. Like the hole was there, but – I guess they fell out. Yeah, well, no. They didn't fall out. I put them in. So – Ay-yi-yi. But, yeah, and just the usual. It looks like someone cut off one of the tie wraps and just left the shit at the bottom of the game. I did find a red screw at the bottom. The kind they usually use to mount the switches and the retaining things for the wiring. The plastic stuff. I couldn't find anyone missing. So maybe when the guy was drilling them in, it just fell down. He's like, I can't find it. Give me another one, Jose. Oh, God. Everything else has looked fine. So I haven't tried to turn it on yet. So we'll see what actually comes up. Fire in Albany. Story at 11. Oh, Jesus.
    79:34
    I think that was – no, I finally replaced that one post in Stargazer that was bending, the one on the right spinner, the one that protects the right spinner from getting hit on the left side. The new one, it's like a number eight screw at the bottom, you know, thickness. So that hopefully should be good. If it goes, you're fucked. It's cracking wood. It's going to rip wood. Yes. And hopefully it'll be okay. I think, is that all I did? I'm trying to think. I thought I did something else. Oh, to make room for the Foo Fighters, I moved the, who done it upstairs? Is it going to the vault or is it going by by sale? I mean, you wanted it, right? I do. So what I did, though, is I swapped because I had the color DMD in that one. So I swapped it with my World Cup soccer. Ooh, there you go. Good idea. And I have a display board, the dot matrix display board that – actually, is that what it's called? I always just call it the display board. The high-voltage section is blown out on it, and that's the one I use on any game I have a color DMD. So I just – I move the board with it. There you go. That makes sense. Because it's easier. Yeah, I might be – I really would be interested in whodunit. I know Zach would be so happy to have me back at the RPC. Whodunit is great. I agree. Wait a minute. Is it your whodunit? It's your whodunit. It was my old whodunit. Yes. you could bring it back. Bring it back. And you'll love it. It still has incandescence in it. Of course it does, because that's the only way to go. It's perfect. It has incandescence, except the flashers in the head are LED flashers, so it doesn't ruin the brand new Translight that's in there. So there you go. Okay, Ron, we'll have to talk after this show meeting. Meow, meow, meow, meow. Wrong game. Okay. Anything else for you? No, nothing for me. Batman 66. Oh, again, enough. Just sell it. Sell it off. Move on. Okay, I'll trade you for a whodunit and something else.
    81:31
    We replaced the motor board, and I was playing it today, this afternoon after I got off work, and it screwed up. So I'm going to start replacing the optos now underneath the rotisserie. That's the next step. Anybody got a Viper motor?
    81:45
    Oh, did it die? It will not move. Oh. And we hot-wired it right to 50 AC volts, and it does not move. So now I'm trying to find a rebuilding company that will rebuild my motor.
    81:59
    There's one company local I put a call into today and hopefully they get back to me. Wasn't the same company made all the motors? No, this is actually ECM out of Schaumburg, Illinois, and they're no longer in business. They are out of business since the 90s. What was it called? Multiproducts, I think they were called. Yes, they were. They still are around, and they made all the 90s up to maybe even today. I don't know. Yeah, probably today. So that's my second problem. We're waiting on a switch for Metallica for the Snake. New Metallica or old Metallica? Old Metallica. Okay. Yeah, the Snake switch for registering the jaw up and down is bad, so it actually broke. Pieces falling on the ground, so we have to get a new switch, and it's a special little switch. Pain in the ass. Oh, I didn't mention I played the new Metallica at TPF the first time I played the new Metallica. And you're keeping your old one? It shoots better than the old one. Oh, wow. I'll say that. So you're getting rid of that, too.
    82:58
    So if anybody has an idea for a Viper motor, give me a heads up. Hey, you knew you were in trouble when you bought that, because that's one of those deals. If that goes, you're screwed. You're screwed, so you've got to figure it all out.
    83:11
    Yeah, what else did I get at the shop? Uh, the meteors should be a long time before I even touched that. Oh, nine ball PIA chip went bad, uh, over the weekend. It wouldn't register the third ball in the trough. And we thought it was the trough board. And I'm like, boy, and I'm looking at it. I go, no, LEDs are lit, but it's not showing up on the CPU. So we check continuity all the way back to the CPU. We're like, Oh, it's going all the way to signals all the way there. So let's just pop out the PIA. And I got plenty of junk boards in the back, put a new one in and boom. Hey, all of a sudden switch works. amazing it's amazing uh what else do we have repair wise a couple broken coil wires and that kind of stuff nothing else big as i said i'm still working on the uh the deadly two uh mandalorian our touch-ups are done we're gonna put the new uh up and down ramp for the premium le on the right hand side that's it we go in we bought a new one so hopefully that will be all done next week. Oh, they had one of those at TPF that had the motorized Baby Yoda. Oh, God. And it comes to life. It was kind of creepy, honestly. Yeah, I can imagine. Whoa. It's like Rudy. Hi! No, it was even creepier. Oh, God. And then after that, we have, oh, Ron, we have a new game in the back at TPF. At RPC. Wrong initials, pal. Yes. RPC. Yes.
    84:40
    Dirty Harry. no more game of thrones and guess what else we got your your second favorite em my second favorite yeah that you own oh prostator we got prostator you got prostator excellent yeah yeah so uh we're gonna have some new games coming to the rpc just always changing it up always always changing it up uh dungeon and dragon dungeon dragon should be gone by a couple weeks from now because i think zach has it sold oh my god you guys just give up on the games way too zach does that's you know well wait a minute you guys had a pro and an le right we have a pro and le so is the le saying nope the le is back at uh mark's house for right now the premium is going to come back in probably next month wait a minute you have a pre what the did you have all the all the owners bought all the machines except for me of course so what does that tell you i'm the smart one yeah i'm the fart speller okay uh other than that uh yeah just uh i actually played with uh hey david dennis still playing with the quicksilver go fuck yourself wow there's a call out that's the call out and i want to hear for fucking silver ball chronicles wow and i know he won't swear on his podcast that's even better i mean we just recorded and We brought Slam Tilt up a bunch of times. Really? Yes. What was the show? What was the show about? Yes. You can tease it. I don't know if I can say. You can say it. Let's just say we've mentioned the founder of this company many times in this podcast so far.
    86:26
    Oh, Jersey Jack has to be then. I didn't say that. I'm just guessing out of all the owners. That's the only one I can really think of. I mean, I can't say. There's no Harry Potter talk and, you know, Avatar being blown out of the water now. Poor Avatar.
    86:42
    There should be like a picture of like Avatar sitting there and then Harry Potter just falls out. New and improved. Look at it. It's all out there.
    86:52
    Oh, my. Fuck me. What the fuck? I would love to have a, you know what you need? You need like a cattle prodder around Jack's neck. So, you know, as soon as he starts barking, you know, hey, look.
    87:09
    Well, also during that same seminar, someone asked, like, what Steve Ritchie's next game is. And he kind of went to the mic like he was going to say something and then didn't say anything. Like, okay.
    87:21
    Who would it be? Top Gun, come on. Who can it be now? Actually, Steve, I talked to Steve. He was like, you want to know what the next game is? I didn't even bring this up. It's like, oh, okay. It's none of your beeswax. Like, okay.
    87:40
    It's none of your go fuck yourself. I didn't even ask. You know how much of a freaking pain in the ass you are. Hey, I bought a bunch of his merchandise when he was between Stern stints, so I don't want to hear it. Go fuck yourself. That was 15 years ago. That was 20 years ago almost. No, no. That was 20 years ago. 2009?
    88:01
    2010? 2009? Somewhere around there. Okay, so 15. Yeah, when they fired everybody, which technically he was not an employee. He was before that, though. Yeah, he was before that. No, it was right around the Expo where they had Dark Knight. Yeah. I thought it was 2008. Yeah, I think it was 2008. That's when Pat Lawler quit, and they fired everyone else right after Expo. Yeah. Yay. Dark times.
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    Dark times. On that note, I think we're done. And I don't know what it is. All night. And the things that you believe in. You don't know what you're thinking. I don't know what you're singing.
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    Dark night. The dark night. Is that a kiss song? A darkness never ending. A dark night. That doesn't sound like it would be a kiss song. It is a kiss song. It is a kiss song? From the elder. The elder. Oh, God. Was that the disco one? No, that was the. The concept music. Yes, the music from the other. Oh, God. That's when they tried to be more talented than they actually were. Like, no, guys, just put the makeup on, talk about chicks and partying, and that's it. Just keep it simple. You guys are not good enough to do that. Yep, I totally agree. Well, that's right. We should have stayed what we were good at. Yes. All right. This has been Episode 248 of the Slamtail Podcast. Check out our website, www.slamtailpodcast.com. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner, including our email, which is slamdellpodcast at gmail.com. That's slamdellpodcast at gmail.com. I'm going to give a shout-out to somebody first. Okay. To Mr. Ron Hallett. Oh. He had to put up with my bullshit for the past two days. Oh, oh, well. So nobody knows about it, but I'm just stating. It wasn't really bullshit. No, it wasn't. It was just a panic situation. And Ron was, of course, as always, one of my great friends who just said, okay, go, bye. And that was it. And, you know, he's been always there for me. So I just want to give out. So if you could see, if you could find out where the edit is, if you think you know where the edit is, then write us at slamtiltpodcast.gmail.com. Because I did have to run away. This is actually two different days. This is actually two different days because the women's finals weren't actually done when we did the first one. Nope, not at all. Uh, yes, yes. And actually, what kind of prize could they win if they guess it right? Uh.
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    That's the thing. We don't really have any motivation for them to even answer. I have a Quicksilver Plastic I can give them. Aw. A used Quicksilver Plastic. He won't mail it. You have to come to RBC to get it. You have to come to RBC. Or no, or I can give it to Ron when he goes to Expo. Oh, one of these many shows that I can give you this old Quicksilver Plastic. Yes. Or if you come to Stomp, I'll give you two plastics. And you guessed it right. Where's the edit? Or where's the cut, I guess I should say. Where in the world is the edit? That could be the title. Where's the edit? Yeah. Or where's the cut?
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    Where's the edit? What's better? Where's the edit or where's the cut? Where's the edit? Okay. Like, where's the beef? Okay.
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    Where's the edit? All right. Hello to everyone in the Cluster of Uck. Yes. You all know who you are. Yes, and you guys got to join us for 250. Oh, God. Yeah, I can't wait for Ron's hair to start falling out even faster. Even faster than it's already out. Okay. I know. I love it. All right. We all done? We're all done. Okay. Until next time, everybody, say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Jeff Mobeck.
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    Hold my mind You can move it If you try Hold my mind Guaranteed to keep you alive Meteor! Level Zero! Clusterfuck! George Takei! Timballs! Bruce Isms! Tournament Talk! Carholer, Cheetah, Sanity, Cash Grab, ELO, Ball Bank, What You Buy It, Game You Love, Game You Hate, Turnitok, Pimple Princess, Sir!
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    Oh my! Oh my