Am I buying "X-Men"?

Don's Pinball Podcast (patreon feed)·podcast_episode·15m 0s·analyzed·Aug 27, 2024

Analysis

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TL;DR

Don weighs X-Men purchase decision, doubts immediate buy without stronger mechanics.

Summary

Don (host of Don's A A Pinball Podcast) speculates on whether he should purchase the upcoming X-Men pinball machine, reportedly designed by Jack Danger as a follow-up to Foo Fighters. He discusses the game's potential based on Danger's design pedigree, the X-Men theme's marketability, and mechanical depth, ultimately leaning toward waiting to see other Q4 2024 releases before committing. Don expresses skepticism about buying day-one due to uncertainty around game quality and secondary market availability.

Key Claims

X-Men is rumored to be Jack Danger follow-up to Foo Fighters
medium confidence · Don, speculating based on rumors heard secondhand about the unreleased X-Men game
Foo Fighters is a well-designed game that sold well enough that secondary market prices are now affordable
medium confidence · Don, discussing Foo Fighters' market performance and price trajectory
Jack Danger has a strong design pedigree with Jurassic Park (Home Edition) and Foo Fighters
high confidence · Don, referencing Danger's known design credits and reputation
X-Men theme is solid for the adult male nerd demographic but lacks the nostalgic impact of games like Jaws or Pokemon
high confidence · Don's personal opinion on theme marketability
John Wick pinball lacks interesting mechanical depth compared to other recent releases
medium confidence · Don, critiquing John Wick (Premium/LE) mechanism design (Drop targets, diverter, car toy) in his own LE
Danger was observed in the Stern prototyping area during the factory tour, suggesting active development on an upcoming game
medium confidence · Don, recounting observations from the Stern Factory tour at Expo
X-Men will likely sell at secondary market prices around $8,500 if released
low confidence · Don speculating on future secondary market pricing
Jersey Jack has something in the pipeline for Q4 2024 that could be competitive
low confidence · Don, speculating on other manufacturers' upcoming releases

Notable Quotes

“the dude's got a pedigree that's like almost a vertical trajectory at this point going from, you know, the great playing JP Home Edition and Foo Fighters”
Don — Establishes Jack Danger's design reputation as a key factor in X-Men's potential appeal
“I think it's an okay theme for pinball and to generate some excitement. You know, it's not like the huge nostalgic hitter that Jaws is or like if it was Gremlins, right? Or frickin' Pokemon.”
Don — Assesses X-Men theme positioning relative to other major recent releases
“The mechanisms in that game are lacking, right? You know, I'm talking about my LE here and the premium as well. The pro really doesn't have anything except a car that punches back at you”
Don — Critiques John Wick's mechanical design as a warning signal for what X-Men needs to avoid
“It's really gonna have to knock my socks completely off, like 10 out of 10 level, 11 out of 10 almost, because we haven't even seen everything that people are coming out with for Q4 2024”
Don — Explains his decision paralysis: waiting to see full competitive landscape before committing
“You're going to be able to get one for like $8,500 probably. You know, so there's no cheap used games without new in box sales first.”
Don — Predicts secondary market pricing and justifies patience strategy

Entities

Donperson Jack Dangerperson X-Mengame Foo Fightersgame Jurassic Park (Home Edition)game John Wickgame Jawsgame

Signals

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rumor_hype: Widespread community speculation that Jack Danger is designing X-Men as follow-up to Foo Fighters; not officially confirmed but treated as likely by informed observers
medium · Don: 'There's a rumor to be Jack Danger's follow-up to Foo Fighters' and mentions hearing 'secondhand inside information'
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market_signal: Foo Fighters secondary market prices have normalized/dropped, making it accessible to broader buyer base; Don speculates X-Men will stabilize around $8,500
medium · Don: 'the price is now affordable so anybody can pretty much jump in there if you've got some amount of pinball money' and later predicts X-Men at $8,500
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product_concern: John Wick cited as example of recent Stern release with insufficient mechanical toys/mechanisms; Don using this as benchmark for what X-Men needs to succeed with him
high · Don: 'The mechanisms in that game are lacking...You've got the Blood Oath token...a single drop target, a diverter...I gotta see more than that'
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design_innovation: Jack Danger known for innovative playfield layouts, recycling classic pinball elements (e.g., Robocop jump) in new contexts; this is a key asset in X-Men appeal
high · Don: 'Dude does some cool layouts. He stole that Robocop jump and put it in his JP Home Edition. Love it, right? Take the great ideas from Pinball Machines of the past'
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community_signal: Collectors expressing wait-and-see approach to X-Men despite Jack Danger pedigree; decision paralysis driven by incomplete knowledge of Q4 competitive landscape

Transcript

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Not be alarmed if you hear any loud noises coming from my property over the next few days. I'm just blowing stuff up. Look what I found at the library. How to blow stuff up? You're making a bomb? Several. I'm engaged in an arms race with an exterminator in McMainerberry. Oh, what's going on, Patreon Patreons? What's up, dude? We're gonna connect again here and do a little bit of exclusivity for you guys. Exclusive from my brain. And dusted with a little bit of some secondhand inside information that I've heard, what's going on with this new X-Men game? Should we do some predictions? Given that everybody and their mom and their French mama has been saying that we're going to see a teaser sometime this week. Now I've talked about how it seems like it's always in one of the next two days, we're going to see this thing in two days comes and then of course it's still out there in the future. But regardless, when it shows up, are people going to buy it? Let's get into that. Okay. Now this is heavily, let's go by the rumors. There's a rumor to be Jack Danger's follow-up to Foo Fighters. Okay, the dude that made the Jurassic Park Home Edition and then designed Foo Fighters. By all accounts, hell of a game. Hell of a seller of a game to the point that the price is now affordable so anybody can pretty much jump in there if you've got some amount of pinball money and get yourself some Foo Fighter going on. So, the dude's got a pedigree that's like almost a vertical trajectory at this point going from, you know, the great playing JP Home Edition and Foo Fighters. So, if it is him on this next game, I think that alone will generate interest, right? Now, let's talk about layout. Dude does some cool layouts. He stole that Robocop jump and put it in his JP Home Edition. Love it, right? Take the great ideas from Pinball Machines of the past and put it back in future games. Use them in new and interesting ways. I think that's okay to do. Foo Fighters is a dang flow monster, man. That upper playfield ramp is pretty steep. But, come on, yeah, I played it again at Jay's Silver Ballroom recently at the tournament. Hell of a game, dude. It's a good game. It's a good game. So, on that pedigree, I think his next game is gonna generate some interest. Now, the theme. If it's X-Men, comic book, I mean, this is kind of like, you know, adult, male, nerd, perfect right in that wheelhouse. So I think it's an okay theme for pinball and to generate some excitement. You know, it's not like the huge nostalgic hitter that Jaws is or like if it was Gremlins, right? Or frickin' Pokemon. And so this isn't a freight truck with a, you know, theme knocking us in the face. We're gonna get that that Peterbilt logo right in the middle of our foreheads when this thing hits us on the highway. But I think it's got legs, man. Deadpool, fantastic. Infinity Quest, cool, right? Head FineenDX or intervenewekizoat earlier this night at TalkPod 0폼 Tomin거나 and David vídeo not m Promiseulative seed I not sure if you designed to be that way But it like you kind of want more in the games So it didn't sell well spooked a lot of people and then Jaws came out and people a little hesitant But Jaws is doing pretty good. Wick came out and people are like this could be another venom I'm not ready to go into this. These things are gonna be available and are they available man? If you look at John Wick le's now, there's not a ton of them for sale, which I like Knapp Arcades Thronk Roongki Too русika, raw Azure Black app temp trailer starring Finish, Knopee Deenbie as Gen 1, Knope Sky. Dont persistotion Khan Backup Transfer Tam significant Chans Right next to all the 747s that Emirates overbought, right? They're all out there.

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So how does that bear for X-Men? I think X-Men could be designed great with good use of its comic book assets and a theme that, you know, can move units typically, but I think it might sit as well. So what is it going to take for me to go in on this game? It's going to take more than just an awesome layout. I want to see some interesting mechanisms that are in it. There's going to be cool ball pass, but we need something. When I look at John Wick, the mechanisms in that game are lacking, right? You know, I'm talking about my LE here and the premium as well. The pro really doesn't have anything except a car that punches back at you, which, while fun, is not, you know, incredible. So, you know, you got the Blood Oath token that opens and closes, you have a drop target, a single drop target, you have a diverter that is a little interesting, And then the case is like the biggest toy in the game aside from like the drifting car at the top, which I hope to see implemented more. I gotta see more than that. If this is, you know, the fan layout with the two ramps and like the extra little ramp diverter on the premium or an extra Vuck or something, I don't know. I think I'm gonna cross my arms and just sit back and say, I'll play this on location. This is really gonna have to be something swinging for the fences. Now, having said that, when I was at the Stern Factory for the WIC tour, the notorious WIC tour, you know, danger was there, man. And I met this guy a couple of times before. He knows me. That's cool. That's cool. And I saw him like running around the area where they're prototyping parts for games. Like they have this whole cordoned off area. If you did the tour at Expo, this was an area that was a chain link fence with a tarp over it that you couldn't see into, like an eight foot high chain link fence. We got to go in there and it's a machining area, right? There's, uh, laser cutting machines, metal breakers, things for taking raw sheet metal and turning it into ramps and mechanisms and spinners and things like that. And so dude ran in there and like quickly, you know, hit a lot of stuff, you know, out of sight because it's probably he's probably working on this game. Then you look at the parts bin, you see all these like parts that were punched out, you know, for different mechanisms and things like we're seeing, you know, in this big vat of sheet metal, like all the things they've been working on. FAQHK

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DPS, where's Dutchpinball, you know, so if we had already seen what everybody has on offer and then X-Men comes out Okay, then you can make a better educated decision But at this point I have to choose keep my money in my pocket Which is probably the smart thing to do Go ahead and go on X-Men knowing that I'll probably miss out on the rest of the year's releases and and it's just it's too big of A gamble right now, so I don't know. So what is it gonna take? This is a very interesting topic. It seems that I have to like smash my face back. No. Maybe they've switched things up. Maybe they're pinch hitting. Maybe they've got another theme that they're going to release after X-Men, but they're bringing it in now. It could happen. I don't know, but we'll see. But it's going to take a whole lot for me and I think I'm speaking for other people as well currently here in the market. What is this going to do to distributors? We're going to have to wait and see. What's Stern Pinball going to do? Are they going to start discounting games and putting more Coscos? Candida Wimalah For a new release from Stern because dude it so fun that new pinball release day I remember one of the first podcasts I did I would sit down analyzing just the pictures from Foo Fighters and like the different pathways and things I remember doing that with James Bond, Cornerstone, when that released. So I'm excited about being able to see a game and like digest it and look at all the shots and the cool things. Oh, look, I didn't notice there was a captive ball right there. I wonder what that does. And then playing this game on location, I think is fine. And then down the road, if you want one of these, you're going to be able to get one. You're going to be able to get one for like $8,500 probably. You know, so there's no cheap used games without new in box sales first. But, you know, we'll see where we're at. We'll see where we're at. Anyway, I don't know. I said a little bit of rambling, but I think that's what it's going to take for me to move on this. Let me know your thoughts. Communicate below. Voice Indicators Written Solar Graphics Ben Dampden Domestic Dramaturg Thank you for watching. Tit continuos, ektap How's my life going? Tuesday, February 8, Bis Like implementing Tick制, Thank you so much for being a Patreon member. More to come as I hear it which can be anytime. I've got another secret project I'm working on which I'm ready to ship on Friday and I can't wait to leak little details of that here on the patreon. The reason why I haven't yet is because I think it would be something that's number one in demand and number two I would have trouble filling that demand without building up some supply. So I'm going to do that first. But when the time is right, I will mention it and then if you guys want to get on a list, go ahead and get on a list. If you want to email me and get on the email blast list, I'll let you guys know first. dawnspinballpodcast at gmail.com. You know how to find me. You know how to reach me. I'm going to go back to watching some King of the Hill and then we're going to go and I think we'll record episode 142 for the normies.