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# 132 Top 10 pinballs of the 70’s

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 12m·analyzed·Sep 21, 2025
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TL;DR

Casual podcast review of community-submitted 1970s pinball top-10 lists with recurring game preferences.

Summary

George and Dave host a casual discussion reviewing multiple top-10 lists of 1970s pinball machines submitted by community members and personal acquaintances. The episode features lists from Grant (Australia), Dave Golden, Jim Rutherford, John Larry Day, PJ Weyden, and George himself, with recurring themes including Gottlieb EM games (Kingpin, Joker Poker, Genie), Bally titles (Paragon, Harlem Globetrotters, Star Trek), and Williams machines (Gorgar, Meteor, Stars). The hosts also discuss repair projects including Lord of the Rings troubleshooting and Pool Sharks restoration, and briefly mention Star Wars: Fall of the Empire receiving mixed critical reception.

Key Claims

  • Star Wars: Fall of the Empire is the eighth Star Wars game manufactured in pinball

    medium confidence · Dave, discussing the new Spike 3 Star Wars title: 'this is like the eighth Star Wars game manufactured called this one's called Star Wars: Fall of the Empire'

  • Star Wars: Fall of the Empire received unfavorable critical reception compared to other games

    medium confidence · Dave: 'I did not hear a lot of very favorable things. I think people are just... I think people just want something new, not a rehash.'

  • Star Wars: Fall of the Empire features a Death Star mechanism with a door that opens to shoot a ball

    low confidence · Dave: 'the only thing that I can remember about the whole game is that the Death Star has a door that opens up and you shoot a ball'

  • Joker Poker is one of the top three or four system one games

    medium confidence · Dave discussing John Larry Day's list: 'That's like top. That's one of the best system ones. I'd say top three or four.'

  • Lord of the Rings game Dave is repairing is a Spike platform title

    high confidence · Dave: 'what platform is that game? That is a timer' [context indicates early 2000s Stern], later discussing Spike 3 in contrast

  • John Larry Day had a Genie pinball machine in his college dorm room

    high confidence · George: 'he grew up with Golly Genie in his dorm room' and 'he had it in college. He had to haul it up a flight of stairs with his friends'

  • Kingpin and Pinup (add-a-ball version) are favored games across multiple submitted lists

    high confidence · George: 'so everybody's got a little bit different taste, but there is some centric to it. There are some games that appear on everybody's list'

  • Dave and Buster's stock took a hit after introducing new adult-themed arcade

    low confidence · Dave: 'Dave and Buster's having a new adult themed arcade... Their stock took a hit the other Larry Day'

Notable Quotes

  • “I'm afraid as a newbie, I just don't have the depth of pinball knowledge where I could even name 10 70s machines. However, I'll lend my neophyte perspective on a few of the 1970s machines that I play somewhat regularly.”

    Jim Rutherford @ ~29:00 — Self-aware newcomer perspective on participating in the top-10 exercise despite limited experience

  • “I've always called Paragon American Pinball Pinball trainer for people.”

    George @ ~38:00 — Characterization of Paragon as a difficult game that teaches pinball skills

  • “Star Trek and Supersonic, both are really good if you're drinking beer because you can just wait for that bonus countdown and just drink a beer or two while you're waiting for the thing to finish.”

    Grant @ ~15:00 — Humorous observation about game design accommodating casual players

  • “I got a lot of the games that have already been mentioned on his list. Yes. And I think I'll go and I'll leave you for last. How's that? Okay. Because I got kind of a like to hear your comments on my list.”

    George @ ~70:00 — Structure of the episode segments

  • “You two really work off each other well and enjoy the back and forth with the segments. Keep the repair stories coming.”

    Mark (listener, Madison Wisconsin) @ ~82:00 — Positive audience feedback about the podcast format and repair content

Entities

GeorgepersonDavepersonGrantpersonDave GoldenpersonJim RutherfordpersonJohn Larry DaypersonPJ WeydenpersonTim SextonpersonJohn Borgperson

Signals

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    product_launch: Star Wars: Fall of the Empire Spike 3 platform game received mixed to unfavorable critical reception from the community

    medium · Dave: 'I did not hear a lot of very favorable things. I think people are just... I think people just want something new, not a rehash.'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community preference for novel game themes rather than franchise rehashes, evidenced by lukewarm reception to eighth Star Wars pinball iteration

    medium · Dave's comment about mixed reviews and speculation that players want 'something new, not a rehash'

  • ?

    content_signal: Classic Pinball Podcast experienced notable audience growth following recent episode

    medium · George: 'I'm not sure what happened with our last episode, but we had one heck of a week. Thank you all that are new and all you people that have hung with us for a long time.'

  • ?

    community_signal: Clear community preference patterns emerge around specific 1970s games across multiple independent lists (Kingpin, Paragon, Joker Poker, Harlem Globetrotters, Genie)

    high · George: 'so everybody's got a little bit different taste, but there is some centric to it. There are some games that appear on everybody's list'

  • ?

    collector_signal: Certain 1970s games remain challenging to acquire and restore, requiring specialized technical knowledge

    medium · George on Atari Superman: 'Probably one of the few people who know how to fix one. That's the only reason you like that game.' Dave: 'because anybody you play one of those these days it plays like a dog unless you have a really nice restore.'

Topics

1970s Pinball Games - Top 10 RankingsprimaryCommunity Participation and Listener SubmissionsprimaryGottlieb EM Games (Kingpin, Joker Poker, Genie, Countdown)primaryBally Solid-State Games (Paragon, Harlem Globetrotters, Star Trek)primaryWilliams Games (Gorgar, Slash, Meteor, Stars)primaryPinball Game Restoration and RepairsecondaryStar Wars: Fall of the Empire - Mixed ReceptionsecondaryPodcast Format and Community Engagementsecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.72)— Hosts express enthusiasm for the submitted lists and highlight recurring themes with appreciation. Community sentiment is positive regarding the podcast format. However, there is notable skepticism about Star Wars: Fall of the Empire, tempered by the casual, joking tone typical of the hosts. Discussion of Lord of the Rings repair frustrations shows technical challenges but not anger.

Transcript

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George and his name is Dave. Hello Dave. Hello George. First, I'd like to thank our audience, both old and new. I'm not sure what happened with our last episode, but we had one heck of a week. Thank you all that are new and all you people that have hung with us for a long time. I'm wondering, was it Dave's comedic moments? Was it me eating Vegemite? Or was there remarks about Tim Sexton's top 10 of the 70s? Now... Okay. That's what I'm thinking. Speaking of the top 10, we promised you our list, but we also opened it up to our audience and you probably guessed it, I got zero. I solicited somebody, somebody you all well, you came to know I think in our last episode or the episode before, Dave Golden, he responded. Very interesting list. What else? Yes, I'm gonna address Alvin. Remember that guy who called me out and said I'm a ripoff artist? Well, yes, I am rippingoff Tim Sexton yet again. All right Hey, that guy is the ripoff artist. I know where that's from now. So we can actually tell the audience that it actually is something. It's from Media Bear. Well, you need to say the phrase first. Stay lit. and tilted And that... You sent me...who is it? It's on my list of things to talk about. Who is it? It is MediaBear on YouTube and I was on his...I was in his chat. I was hanging out with him a lot on chat and he had a really nice YouTube channel. He's the one that said I wear my face mask when I drive back about five years ago, getting pretty popular. I did listen to the video or audio. Yeah. And I... What is Media Bear famous for? For that song. Oh, that's it? Yeah, a lot more. He'd wear a big clown wig with all different multi-colors. He'd wear like a lab coat and a big prosthetic face device, almost like Jason. And he'd go shopping like that during the whole COVID nonsense for five years. Oh, jeez. Okay, so that's his claim to fame. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. All said, I'm going to start with the person who started this whole thing rolling, if you don't mind. Unless you have a comment, something you want to say real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, this is from our friend in Australia, Grant. And he says, Here we go, gents, love them or hate them, here's my top 10 for various reasons, as I will briefly explain. So he gave me a script. This is awesome. Take into account in Australia in the 70s, it was all All Williams and Gottlieb until Bally exploded in the market when SS was introduced. Solid State. Then once the soundboard replaced chimes, they really took off. So many of the games you guys had, we have never seen, especially the Bally EMs. So here goes his top 10 list and he's got a couple of reasons why. Number 10, Bally Knight Rider, a game that seriously I'm not getting the mystic reference on that one really. I don't get the whole mystic with that. Me either, but he'll qualify that and we'll talk about it in the next show. Number nine comes in with Gottlieb Kingpin, a great bowling themed game. My first four flipper game. I didn't see this in his collection. That one has actually shown up on a couple lists now on my side over here with people I asked, Kingpin. Oh, okay, we'll come to your lists in a minute. Hang on. Number eight, Joker Poker Solid State Version, great challenging game and visually beautiful. Coming in at number seven, yeah, you just hold back. I know you're going to comment on that one. That's why I went by it real fast. You relax, you'll get your turn, okay? He'll get your turn. You can, uh, number seven, William's Flash. Didn't this one appear on, uh, Mr. Sexton's list? I believe it did. Yeah, I don't know why. I, I, famous for- Here's Grant's reason. Richie had those background sounds attracting attention. Yeah, he was, he was a first with that. It is a first. Like Gorg- Like Gorg-Eiser first, but still both of them aren't really that great of a place. But I remember what he said. He goes, Williams and Gottlieb ruled in Australia. So, coming in at number six, Stern Meteor, love the bonus sound in the top row of drops, great sounds. Okay. Okay. Coming in at number five,Bally Paragon, a wide fat boy machine with great challenges and sounds. We'll come to that one in a little bit. Number four, he owns one of these I believe, a Bally Kiss. I was captivated by the art and lights, good game play also. Number three, one you're very familiar with, Dave. Williams Gorgar, pardon me, loved the heartbeat, speech, and sounds. Beautiful game. Now, number two. This was on Tim Sexton's list, and I listened to our podcast. I don't know if it came across, but number two on Tim's list was Ballyharm Harlem Globetrotters, great art, great spinners, but hated the scissors. Well, most people do. I like them. This is a weird Number one. I don't get this one, but hey, that's what makes a list. Number one for me is Bally Star Trek. Love the game, love the art, and especially love the nostalgic side of things. As everyone has a story, mine is the local pizza shop. Well, I think a lot of people have that one. And one, I was addicted. I smashed what we referred to as 20 cent pieces. Okay. Into that bloody thing all day and out. I probably owned half of it by 1980. It is on my hit list to buy one day. Big, okay. He's got a couple honorable mentions will come to these as well. Mata Hari and Evel Knievel. It is tough to come up with ten. I will say the Star Trek one, Star Trek and Supersonic, both are really good if you're drinking beer because you can just wait for that bonus countdown and just drink a beer or two while you're waiting for the thing to finish. Well, that's also Bally Playboy. Oh yes, exactly. Okay, so I'll let you go. Who did you get one from? All right, I got some from, let's see, Jim, Jim, Jim Rutherford. Nice guy. He's local to me. Him and him and John have been helping me with different projects and so forth. So let me see where he is here. I asked him for his list. I'm gonna find it with his list. Okay, I got one. You go ahead and look. Want me to go? Yeah, go ahead. Okay. Here we go. This one's from Dave Golden, I'm sure with some input from his wife Jean. Here's our non-scientific list from 1970 to 1979. It's always hard to choose absolute favorites. This is definitely a different list. Number 10, Gottlieb Neptune followed by Bally Matahari, Bally Hocus Pocus, Gottlieb Jokerpoker, Gottliebjunglequeen, GottliebEldorado, WilliamsOXO, Gottliebsurfchamp, WilliamsSpaceMissionSpaceOdyssey, and number one GottliebBronco. There's a theme there. It's all EMs. That's, well that's, nah, um, he likes the Jokerpoker EM. Oh, okay, no, Jokerpoker solid state, okay. Yeah, he didn't, he didn't specify, he's got Mata Hari on there as well. Okay, yeah. I'm guessing both of those are SS. SS, yep. But the overwhelming theme is Gottlieb. Couple of Williams thrown in there as well. Yeah, he's got pretty much a Gottlieb Williams thing going on in his collection. I know mostly, uh, mostly Williams EMs he has in his collection. I'm definitely a list foreign to me. I know some of these games but nowhere near probably as well as you do. I was at their house recently and I said well I don't really know any of these games so I started playing them and you know some of them say you look at the playfield it's like I don't know it doesn't look like a lot of stuff to do here but you start playing them it's like okay I get it it's it actually comes alive for you. Team some of these vi insignia It's not the one you were talking about that that room Oh yeah, that's a good list. Okay. Definitely a good list. You got a list? Yeah, so I got a list from Jim. He only put five on here because basically he said that, I'm afraid as a newbie, I just don't have the depth of pinball knowledge where I could even name 10 70s machines. However, I'll lend my neophyte perspective on a few of the 1970s machines that I play somewhat regularly. So let's go with number five would be Meteor. This along with Stars is popular in locations where I've been playing and I actually prefer this to Stars. Both have Dick Dick Hamill BSOS updates installed and that certainly jazz up the rule Set. Okay, these have the enhancements, the enhanced software. Well, yeah, there's two different types. These are like the rewrites. They have rewrites in them. Okay. You know, let's see. But I find the upper section of the media playfield pretty satisfying. Executing on the simple strategy of leaving one drop target up and then ripping the spinner from the bottom flipper is simple enough. Elevate me out of my usual just try to keep the ball alive league night newbie mindset. And then we go to pinup. So pinup is kingpin, but the add a ball version. The first time I played this with it Scott's Barn. Scott knows that I'm not so awesome a player and yet he pointed to pinup and said play this and you'll enroll it over the five digit score. I looked at him incredulously and he said just knock down the 10 drop targets, keep As shallow Rules sets go, this one was about as single-minded and fun as it gets. Once you get a lucky shot from one of the upper flipper to the other and into one of those drop targets, that becomes something to aim for. On that first game, I got 92,540 photo attached and walked away happy. Now that I look at this photo, I think the backlash art of the guy in the red Gottlieb shirt may have inspired Roger Sharpe's mustache choices. Then we have Harlem Globetrotters, number two. No, number three. Number two. Despite aforementioned hatred of the scissors, I do, what, him too. I do relatively well in this game. I think we can all agree that a machine will need some satisfying shots to be successful. Ones that are really rewarding to nail. Dave, that's why the ramps and spinners. Well, those are always so satisfying, i.e., your spinners, Dave. Satisfying both visually and audibly. Now how about two right up the middle? Then we get Paragon simultaneously on my favorite and least favorite list. What the F? Why do we enjoy games that we are conceived to humiliate us in front of friends on league night? I'm so glad scissor flippers are not the norm any longer. Just evil. But that sequential drop targets, now that's cool. I think if I own one of these I'd become a better and more patient player. That's true. I've always called Paragon a pinball trainer for people. And number one coming in, which is kind of a rare one. I wouldn't expect this one. Strikes and Spares. Top of the list because seriously that back glass is so iconic pinball. Hey little boy, you got a quarter? Pubescent delight that I find myself just staring at the art. Very true. The fact that two super hot chicks are mad at their boyfriend because they're both checking out an other super hot chick is to me also pretty 233,iennent commentary on life. Yeah you got an Adamsinely but that TZ is looking really tempting. Oh, seven he's right, sorry The negative side, similar to Motoharu, which I own, this is a real bonus heavy game with no tilt warnings. I'm all for endo ball bonuses, but I tend to dislike when the entire score is made of bonus. It's just too painful when you cross that tilt bob threshold. So that's Jim's list. Okay, I think I should go because so my choice is They kind of move across what we've already talked about. How many other people do you have? I have two. You and two other people? Me and two other people. Do one of your other people if you got it right now. If not, I'll do mine. I got John Day. Okay, do John Day. So everybody knows John Day, boy genius. He's been on our show before. What was it? Black Out? Was that the game he did? No. Yeah. What, yeah, I did Blackout. Yeah, I did Blackout. Was that the game? Yeah, that's that multi-level game, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, I did Blackout. I can't remember all our shows, okay? Just give me a break. I'd say John has competition these days with genius. Jim, Jim Rutherford, John and Dave Golden, both very smart individuals, but all EEs and very bright guys, so glad to call them all friends. I'm all friends. Okay, let's hear Johnny Boy's list. Okay, so he says, hi Dave, cool, here are 11 of my most cherished 70s games. Sorry, I just could not cut any from the list. He's going to start out with number 10, Gottlieb World Series. Don't really know that game. Sounds like a baseball game of some sort. Yeah, I don't know what that is either. Then we got Bally Blackjack EM, which I got the only copy of that. So everybody- Right, so that's probably where that comes from. Okay. Tip of the hat to you. Yeah, oh yeah. Everybody comes to this house, they're always on that game. They ignore the fathom and the eight bottle locks next to it, they play that game. Next up is Gottlieb Volley. Good choice. That's a single player wedgehead. That's a fun little title. Ballyparagon. Another good choice. The recurring theme here. Yep. Gottlieb Countdown. Another fun one. Gottlieb Joker Poker. I'm not real familiar, I know the game. I've got to play that one. At first I played it. That's starting to come up in tournaments, people talking about it. It's a great little game. I've had a chance to buy that years ago and I just found out the copy I was playing was too easy so I didn't buy it and I probably should have because that's actually, that's a good system one. That's one of the best system ones. I'd say top three or four. Okay. Then you get, speaking of best system ones, Joker Poker. That's like top. What number are we at? Seven? We're at. One, two, three, four, five. We're at number six. Okay. Yeah, six. Golly JokerPoker. Then we have Gollygenie. I knew that was going to come on the list. Okay, John is the one. Yeah, he grew up with Gollygenie in his dorm room. Oh, that's that story where he had it in college? He had college. He had to haul it up a flight of stairs with his friends in the dorm room. Right, he talks about it in our John Day episode. If you haven't listened to that, that's a good one. Number four, we have Bally Harlem Globetrotters. Another recurring theme. And number three, Stern Meteor. That's been on somebody's list. That's really not on my list. I've played it way too much over the years. Number two, Stern Stars. That's appropriate. Okay. That's up there. And number one, we have Gottlieb Kingpin. Okay. So all these guys like to take pin and pin up. So everybody's got a little bit different taste, but there is some centric to it. There are some games that appear on everybody's list I guess is what I'm saying. Yes. Okay. Yes, there is. So who's your last person then maybe you and I can go. Okay, we got PJ. Oh PJ Weyden. Okay, so this is Dave's best friend PJ from Years gone by, also an avid collector. Let's hear his list. I asked for top 10, but he gave me 15. Well, no, he started 10. He's breaking the rules. That's okay. He breaks the rules. We can come back to it. Alright, so we'll start at 10 here. Okay. 10, he's gonna go with Frontier. That wasn't... wasn't that made in 1980? Knapp Arcade. Yeah, it was, so it doesn't qualify. Okay, that doesn't qualify. Okay, so I'm going to kick that out. Okay, kick that one out. Kick that out. Let's see. Let's see. Blackout, William's Blackout. That did not appear on John's list, which I find funny. That might be 1980 as well I got to kick PJ didn pay attention to that Yeah okay so too So you should read the rules Hold on Let go with that Maybe we need 15 from him We might We might Let's see. Genie. That qualifies. Okay. Then he's got, that's at number 10. Number 9, 300, Godlieb 300. Okay. Number 8. Another bowling theme. People seem to like the bowling theme. He likes bowling a lot. Okay. I'm saying the bowling theme has been on other people's just different games. Number eight is supersonic. Okay. Oh, hold on one second. Oh Dave's gonna be yelling at somebody All right, that was that was stage one that GPS got the FedEx story FedEx story is coming I'm on I'm on the podcast That's okay I'm going to go with the last one. Did I say Supersonic yet? Supersonic. Yes, you did. Okay. Then he's got Mata Hari. Okay. Spirit of 76. Okay. Black Jack, EM. That's your influence again. Did I say Six MillionDollarMan? You have not yet. Okay, SixmillionDollarMan. That was on Tim Sexton's list if I recall. He said that one is not, he doesn't like that one. Okay. I'm going to go with the last one. Tim Sexton, I think. Tim Sexton, I think. Tim Sexton, I think. Tim Sexton, I think. Tim Sexton, I think. Tim Sexton, I think. Tim Sexton, I think. Tim Sexton, I think. He said that one is not, he doesn't like that one, I thought. That was on his bad boy list, but I think he's totally wrong. Oh, maybe. Okay, well, we'll come to that later. Then he's got Mata Hari. Okay. And Surfchamp. Okay. And then Starz, number one. Okay, so he's he's got a lot of games that have already been mentioned on his list. Yes. And I think I'll go and I'll leave you for last. How's that? Okay. Because I've got kind of a like to hear your comments on my list. Sure. Coming in at number 10, a Bally game. Most people would not put on this list. How about 10,000 johnpanays earth, MetalGoul zipper UNKFJ jungnabert usually wanted to help down at Auckland part of the Ruins and are ultimately foods tears Patient vielge molar om fitted expectdoing raven or the life What about number nine, another EM? I kind of broke my list up into early 70s and late 70s, so it's kind of a 50-50 split. Okay. Number nine is Grand Prix, Williams game. That's not a bad one. Okay. Okay. Here's one you told me to play, and I think it was the Chicago coin version. You said very rare, go play it. Rawhide. It's actually a stern. You know it is a Stern too but it is also a Chicago coin. And do you know the story? I know Stern took over Chicago coin. There you go. So it was actually Chicago coin rawhide and then it turned into Stern rawhide? Correctamundo. Okay. Okay. Coming in at number seven, an influence from our good friend Dave here, Bow and Arrow. Got a nice one. Good choice. Well, you're the influence. There's another one influenced by Dave. JokerPokerSS from Gottlieb. Coming in at six. Nice. Okay. Following with PJ. Number five. SS. Supersonic. I don't know why I play that game, but I love playing that game. Number four. It's in my collection. Number four. One I don't own and I would own, and I think it's going to be highly collectible when the day comes, but we won't talk about that. Dolly Parton. Yeah, well after playing the one I restored, I can see why. Good game. I will continue to hunt, but I will probably come up with empty hands. Number three, been on a lot of people's lists, Mata Hari. Coming in at number two, the brutal game of Paragon. And number one, I'm sure you can guess folks which one I picked, it's Harlem Globetrotters. Now. Good choice. Like our good friend PJ, I have a couple of honorable mentions. I did not make my list. Blackjack SS, the game that I bought recently, played a lot, like it. How about Evil Knievel? We have not heard that on anybody's list. Those were honorable mentions by me. Yeah, that Evil Knievel, I've had that pretty much torn apart, maybe, I don't know, nine-tenths of being done with a new playfield in it from CPR, but I just haven't had the motivation to finish it up and go the last to take the football over the I'm not in the end zone yet. So, I don't know, at some point, I really want to get Six MillionDollarMan up before that one. But, because I played both of those in an ice cream parlor years ago. So did PJ did too. We played next to SixmillionDollarMan was Evil Can Evil, I think one of the games, maybe Joker Poker or something. So, those are our favorite. Drum roll. Drum roll. Let's hear your list. Okay, my list is coming in at number 10. We have Blackjack EM. Number 9, Countdown. Number 8 is Mata Hari. Number 7, Bow and Arrow. Number 6, Atari Superman. No one said that one. I did look at that one and I said, you know what? He might pick that and you did. Number five. Probably one of the few people who know how to fix one. That's the only reason you like that game. Yeah, because anybody you play one of those these days it plays like a dog unless you have a really nice restore. I keep seeing these Atari games popping up for not a lot of money and I'm like, oh boy, you better know how to fix one of those. Exactly, or have someone have a tech on speed dial. Yeah. Number five, Paragon. Okay, that's been on everybody's list. And number four, Joker Poker. Okay, not surprised by that either. Number three is Six MillionDollarMan. Okay. Number two, Stars. Okay. And coming in at number one The next topic is about Harlem Globetrotters. Seems to be the recurring theme. And I, you know, there's so many things on this list that like, there's so much, there's 1980 that fits the bill for the 70's stuff like the Stern stuff from, you know, Stargazer, Quicksilver, but it's all 1980. So, we're gonna do a list going forward after this for some other stuff that actually makes more sense. You want to play games with somebody right now? Sure. Okay, let's see what this is. Hello? Hello? Hello sir, we have we have the type thing help you have. Somebody's not monitoring and saying, hey, there's somebody on the line. They're not even doing their job. They're such a slouch they can't even do that. Nope, nope, nope. They're watching porn I have some old news, new news. I was watching the Business Channel the other day and remember last month or the month before I talked about Dave and Buster's having a new adult themed arcade? You say it's a nude adult theme? No, not nude, new. That would be a lot better. Anyway, their stock took a hit the other day. Uh oh. I'm a little tight and people aren't going to Dave and Buster's just saying maybe I don't know I don't know either I don't know just saying just saying uh could be I got some other stuff but I'll let you uh I'll let you pull We'll add some of your stories. Is this a what's up doc section? Uh, yeah. Oh, you got that one. Okay. We could do a what's up doc or I could do a viewer mail. Oh, viewer mail is always good. Okay, we'll do a viewer mail. Even though I never get any. Right. And if I do, it's not very nice. Right. Well, this guy, Methos or Mark in Madison, Wisconsin. Oh, he always comes through. Yeah, he always comes through. He's a good, he's a loyal listener. So Mark in Madison, Wisconsin says, Hello, Dr. Dave. Just want to say that I'm enjoying Classic Pinball Podcast and going back in time and listening to the older ones. I admit that at first I was trying to figure out the format and all, but I get it now. And it's refreshing from everything else out there. All right. What? There is no format? That's why he likes it. The other guy, I listen to other podcasts, other pinball podcasts and they're unlistenable. I just, I don't know. Ours is something special. And that's not special from a, you know, from that kind of special, a good special. So I get it now. It's refreshing from everything else out there. You two really work off each other well and enjoy the back and forth with the segments. Keep the repair stories coming. Love them and helps me as I'm working through my pinball problems. I love the older games as well as the classic sterns as those are my favorite. Not all of them but the ones at the top, Nine Ball, Stargazer, Dragon Fist, Quicksilver. I don't know if I'd put Dragon Fist in there. I'd put maybe Flight 2000 in there but you know people like Dragon Fist and they are like no other game. Thank you Mark in Madison, Wisconsin. So thank you Mark. That was a nice email there. Let's see what else we got here. I think we're going to be, are we ending pretty soon here? Let's see, time remaining. Oh, we got seven minutes remaining. Okay. Okay. What else do we got? Did I get a story? Grant wrote to you. Did? Well, Grant, Grant always wrote to both of us. We have some Grant stuff. George? No, just the list. Okay. That's the only thing I wanted to share. Okay. You had a couple of things. I do. These are just reminders, so I don't know if you're going to talk about these. Something about pool sharks and something about Lord of the Rings. Oh, okay. Yeah, well, poolsharks, that was successful, all done up, and that actually got picked up the other day. Loved it. Okay, you talked about it in the last show, but I'm just reminding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have my notes written, so I'm like, okay. I just finished up. It basically was all worn out really badly. Maureen touched it up, extensive touch up on the game. I put a nice sheet of high def glass on it and LED treatment and the little shark in there looks like... Yeah, the guy had it in his showroom. You talked all about that. Well, no, he didn't have it in his showroom. He had... No? No, no, no. No, he had Phoenix in his showroom. This is at his home. Oh, okay. Yeah, this goes to his home. Okay. Same guy though. Okay. Same guy. Yeah. Yeah. Real nice guy. So he picked it up and that was out of here. Love the game. So that's soft and it hasn't worked for years. So it's all shined up and looking really nice. Let's see. Then we have, what's the other one? Oh yeah. Oh, Lord of the Rings. Boy oh boy. So I got a guy, local guy who has several of these early sterns or early 2000 sterns. Right. You talked about the four games. Yeah. And you said that he was going to bring the game to you. Right. He's going to bring it. Did he bring it to you? Well, he did. He's going to bring one by one but he said, I'll start with the two sort of easiest ones. This one of them, the Lord of the Rings just has a flipper problem and it was filthy. This thing has been routed. These games are all routed. I think it's at a bowling alley somewhere. So he said, just do your thing with it. So I started doing my thing and I see like this battery rot. It's kind of hidden battery rot. I started to fix that. The flipper doesn't work. I keep blowing a fuse. I fixed that and then I started getting it. And now, it's still a problem child now. I have the flipper working and I got some other stuff working. The ballrog thing in the middle, that ain't right. And then the game won't boot up all the way. The game will sometimes boot up, sometimes it'll flash lights on and off. Like it won't, I don't know, boot all the way. Sometimes it boots up and just starts playing music. It's lost its mind. So I'm trying to beat my head against it for a little bit, but this board might go to my buddy Clive to fix it, I think. I know the coin up the coin up cauldron. Yeah. Yeah, cuz I might might be going a little phone call to him but It's it's a weird one. It's doing some weird stuff and it's intermittent too Sometimes it'll come up fine and you can play a game and everything other times is all the then a lot of times You got to press the reset button on the on the main board to make it come up, which is really strange So I gotta do more deep dive into into why this whole thing is and look at the what does What platform is that game? That is a timer, And we lost our place. And I said, well, we'll talk about it when we come back. And we were talking about the new Spike 3. And at the time I said, hey, you know, there's a new game out with it. And it's the, you know, what I call the retail Costco version of Star Wars. But since we recorded, they've got another store Star Wars game. And from what I understand from other podcasts, this is like the eighth Star Wars game manufactured called this one's called Fall of the Empire. Okay. I guess that's a franchise that keeps paying off, but I did not hear a lot of very favorable things. I think people are just... I think people just want something new, not a rehash. So the only thing that I can remember about the whole game is that the Death Star has a door that opens up and you shoot a ball I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get all of that in there. But I think one of the other eight games did that. John Borg, is he the one who might have worked for somebody else? Hold on, George. Mike Fedex has arrived. Oh, okay. I had a delivery coming in. You were talking about something, but I had to go. So the whole story of that delivery. So, they were trying to deliver a several hundred pound generator to me just now Fedex and I didn't want it. So, how that goes is that I've had this generator out back, I don't know, more than 10, 12 years now and I got it because years ago kept getting some power outages and it's like, oh, I'm just going to get one of these things. I got like an over the top loud power the whole house and then some. Out of jizz and it's that Yeah, exactly. It's a scarecrow. Of course, of course So but it did, you know, I did use it a couple times. They're probably got maybe I don't know five hours on it Maybe you know so it just sits and I didn't realize that you need to run these things once in a while otherwise Things ain't happy. So over the years maybe five six years ago I try to start it for some reason for something it wouldn't go and I found a hose was all I got one purposely that wouldn't require maintenance like a gasoline one. But you still require maintenance I found out, so I had to replace the hose and it started up, it worked great. I never changed the oil on the thing, I should have changed that when I first got it, never did. So fast forward to this past, oh about a week or so ago and I said you know I'm going to be, it's coming into winter time and I want to see you know I just want to make sure. Well no that's not the story. What is the story? The story is I came to your house two weekends ago for your pinball party. Okay. And the majority of you were oblivious to what was coming upon us. And you were concerned because we were there to have a pinball tournament. And you went to use your generator and it didn't pull, it didn't work, it was nothing. And then the monsoons came and it raged but nothing happened. Okay, there you go. I stand corrected. So there you go. Now you know the rest of the story there. So I was down there while you all everyone here having a party It like you storm the storm is coming Go to your homes you know No they said go into your basement Yeah, go in your basement. But it's like that. I don't believe that crap. There were a couple of tornadoes west of you and Holden. And Holden. Yeah, but they usually they warn that crap and it never happens over here. So I didn't like, you know, if I hear a freight train coming, okay, I'm gonna go to the basement until I hear that freight train. I don't believe it. I don't think it's gonna happen. I hear that train a-comin'. Exactly. It's rollin' round the bend. That's right, big tornado comin. Yeah, I ain't seen the sunshine. Don't give up your day job, George. I don't know why. Sorry. That's okay. So it's electric start, and I tried doing that, I got nothing. I checked the battery, oh, the battery's dead. I haven't done anything with this battery for years. Okay, well, so there you go. I said, oh, I'll try a pull start. I tried a pull start, it's like, ugh, it's not even going. It's like, what the hell? Nothing's moving. It's like frozen. How did you refuse your... Well, let me go through. Let me finish my story. It's coming. Okay, okay. It's coming. I'm spinning a yarn here. People like the yarn. So, fast forward to, you know, I talked to Mr. John Day. Hey, all you're going to do is take a spark plug out, put a little oil in there, let it sit for a while. It should, you know, probably get rusted. It'll probably... Well, I don't know that, but I do have some... Oh, what the fuck is going on? Marvel mystery oil. Close. I wish I had that. No, I didn't, but... Seafoam. Seafoam. Seafoam. Yes, yes, yes. A little bit of seafoam. I'm trying to put it back in and I kind of cross-threaded a little bit. It's like, you know, it's like, okay, eff it. I'm just gonna leave it in that way. Wait a couple hours and I pulled on, hey, it started to go free. It's free. Great. But now the spark plug is messed up. It's like, okay, I'll order one. It came the next day, put it in and I uncross-threaded it. It went in there nice. Okay. Got a new battery for it, put it in there and then still didn't want to really go. It just felt like it just didn't work. I The been going on a lot for me just met myself an artist cambiarGBP.com I have an artistG Auch and he is a producerW name can eat The end poll schoolingand Director grew communicate with 이게 the sl 쓸 peculiar to handle randomities store itemsnot stopping Stephan Finan爺n蔥reensJames Baio's Paintingbooks Shiz shotgunлишкомoldnearbyrepeat FieryWatch I got this one's on sale. It's about the same kind of thing, but a little less of a price. It'll do the job. Okay, go. And I said, you want to pick it up or get it delivered to your house? Oh, deliver to my house. Yes, please deliver to the house. I don't want to do that. So then fast forward to talk to John again. And he said, Oh, you know, you really don't need that big thing. You should get one of these small things. It purrs like a kitten. It's just, oh, I didn't know that. So he educated me on you get a one quiet, do the same job. It's quiet and it's a lot less and less All of these are great. I looked up that one and said I want to get that instead. So, okay, hello, hello, Lowe's, yeah, I log in, cancel. There's no cancel button. Say okay, hello, Lowe's, on the phone. I want to cancel. I don't see a cancel thing on it. Let me go check. Oh, yours is a drop ship item. Oh, you got to call back Monday. They can call the factory and cancel it then. Okay, I call back Monday. I call corporate. Oh, no, sir, we can't cancel that once it's in process. Wait a minute, I just ordered it yesterday. It's over, it's coming from East Oshkosh somewhere West Coast. You're going to have it shipped all the way. Oh yeah, when it arrives sir, just put it in your car and take itback to Lowes and we'll refund you. It's like, I ain'tlifting up a 200 pound thing, you know, I can't be doing that, you know, and I don't think so. Not with myback and so forth. So they said, well, you can just, you know, when it comes, there's a possibility you can have us come by and we can pick it up. But what do you mean a possibility? You going to charge me to pick it up? I don't want this friend, I don't want it. Well, then she says, sir, Overview Premiumulus basically thought I might slide, польз lookinfulostly MOS but Orton saved. come the 5 min was Postedable past What kind of rules are these, George? According to them, you broke the rules. According to their script, they read. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying you broke the rules. According to them. So did you just refuse the script? Yes, so then what I did is I walked down to Home Depot on my walk every day and said, Hey, I got a for instance for you. If I order a generator from you... That's irony, you know. How so? You have a Home Depot you could almost throw a baseball at. True. Yet you ordered from the competitor Lowe's. They didn't have it on sale at Home Depot. There is irony there. There is irony there. So I went to Home Depot, which is a lot nicer and a lot more friendly people, and she said, oh, if that ever happens, it happens all the time, if that happens and it arrives, you I'm going to refuse delivery and it goes away and the next day we credit you. Okay, great. So I figure if Home Depot does it that way, so does Lowe's. But I told the Lowe's idiot on the phone, I'm just going to refuse it. Well sir, you have to take it anyway and just bring it back. It's like no, I'm going to refuse delivery. She didn't even know. And she starts getting... Well because here's where you broke the rules according to them. But you're an unknowing customer of this but you now know it. It didn't come from their local store. It came from the agreement they have with whatever brand you bought. And they drop ship it directly from the factory, the depot. Again, if you go through Pennsylvania or New Jersey and you see all those warehouses, that's where it came from. Okay, so this came from Illinois somewhere. Right, so they have a depot there where they stockpile these things and then send A huge thank you for his可帮 But they don't have that. So I talked to, so the FedEx guy had a big note in the door today. That's why I had to leave really quick while you're talking today in the other segment of the podcast. FedEx guy showed up, I went out the door and said, I see, I hear him moving the whole truck around trying to get this thing, wrestle it out of the truck. I said, hey, hold on, hold on. Don't even bother. Leave it where it is. I'm refusing it. Oh, okay, no problem. He said this happens all the time, he said. This happens all the time, he said. It's really stupid that you should just be able to cancel this thing. People, this happens all the time to people. They want to cancel, they deliver. So now here's the question. Yeah. This is an audience question. Does that now become a used item and does not go back to the factory? Probably not. Where does it end up? It goes back to sender, goes back to the factory because it's unopened. It hasn't been molested at all. Okay. It goes right back. That costs them a little bit of money. Yeah. Well, they should be able to get a better process next time. Okay. Kind of stupid. Do you have something pinball related? Uh, pinball related. Well, I will talk about the, uh, I can talk about Funland. Oh no, not again. Well, this is actually the delivery, the delivery, yeah. This is the rest of the story. It's the final part. It's the final installment. I know our audience, George. I'll read it and tell them that they don't want to hear it. Write it and say no otherwise. Well, this time it's all done. I played it. I saw it. I was at your house. It's a fun game. It is a fun game. That's the name, Funland. The problem is the guy, you know, Vic whatever his name was from New Jersey somewhere. P.S.: I have no idea who that is. P.S.: He used to have a TV show. He was like before or around the same time as Jack LaLanne. He was like Jack LaLanne's, you know who Jack LaLanne is? P.S.: Yeah, yeah, I know Jack LaLanne. P.S.: Okay, same guy. Same thing, different guy. P.S.: He put on a tugboat with his teeth. P.S.: Something like that. P.S.: Vic Tanny. Victor. So, anyway, get the game in, restore it, blah, blah, blah. Game's really in that shape, except for whoever touched up the game. They touched up everything on the playfield. And I don't know. Yes, you do. I do. Yes, you do. It looks great from several feet back. You get on top of it. Well, a blind man would say it looks good. Yeah. But, I mean, you know, it looks good from pictures and from several feet away, but you get on You know, it's really not that bad, but it's not that good. Yeah, but the cabinet paint job is awesome, the back glass is awesome, all new metal everywhere. So, the game presents well, and it wasn't playing well at all. The guy put LEDs in the frickin' thing, so all these lights that are supposed to go around and turn off and on, they're always on all the time. The stepper units for the spinners were wrong. It was scoring wrong. I did a bunch of work on it to get it to where it's supposed to be, to make it play as good as it looks. And then, and they have these stupid spinner things in there that hold the spinner posts down so the spinners don't go rocking back and forth. They're solid, there's posts. And instead of having just a bolt go through there, there was actually a bolt that's welded to a piece of metal that holds the spinner on. So you can't actually put a flat blade screwdriver to turn it. You got to go underneath with a nut. It's just really dumb how Gottlieb did it. I had to do all that, tighten those down, then finally delivered all the way down to like right near P-town, down the Cape, long drive. Had to go down the bulkhead, down to bulkhead. The guy helped Morgan. You actually delivered this thing. Oh, I delivered it. That's what I'm trying to tell you. This is the rest of the story. This is delivered. This is out of here. It's gone. So I delivered it. So yeah, delivered it. Guy liked it. Playing it. I'm a great time with it and then I came home and the next day I see a text on my phone. Oh no. Oh no. He says, hey. You didn't go all the way home. I went all the way home. Oh yeah. Oh, we were home. Oh, you weren't at your mom's. Oh yeah. You weren't at your mom's. Well, we went to my mom's but I think then we left the next day. We were gone. By the time I got this message on the phone, we were home. I don't shoot pinball. And he said, hey, there's an issue with the game is like, so I called him right away. So he said, oh, sometimes when I'm playing the game now, I'll go all the way, you know, ball, all the way to ball three, you lose the ball. It won't go to ball four. Sometimes I start a game, I'll go to ball one, but I won't go to ball two. It won't finish the game and when we lose the ball down the out hole, it won't go. It won't serve the ball. It's like okay. Wrecking my brain here. And of course, where's the schematic? In his game. I didn't make a copy of this thing, which I should have. It was dumb. So I could look at it. So it's in his game. Then I'm thinking, okay, what could it be? Well, I'm thinking simply it could be, well, obviously the out-hole switch is intermittent. It's not making all the time and therefore it's not, it's supposed to, the ball goes in there, hits a switch, the game says, oh, ball's here, kick it out. It goes over a little on the switch and it advances the ball to ball two, ball three, ball four, whatever. I said, okay, that's probably what it is. So I said, take a picture of that for me, lift it up. I showed him how to take the, lift the game up and so forth, the playfield up. So he does all, does all that. And he, and he's really, he's happy. He's like, oh, I'm so glad you called me back. I'm so glad you're, you're working with me. I knew, I knew you, you were, you were that kind of guy, basically not like a, a scammer that's going to say it's all yours now. It's like, no, no, no. I said, I, I want to have this, you know, you pay good money for this. I want this thing to work for you, you know? So, so then I was like, okay, I need more, I need more, I'm a little bit more guru stuff on this, more guru eyes, so I said, hey Stu, here's what I got going on. You have a schematic to go. PK and his brothers. Yes. And those who are following at home. Yes. And good thing I have several gurus to go with. I have Dave Gold, another one knows what he's talking about, John Day, another one, and Stu. So out of those three, someone's going to know, but I figured I'd go with Stu first. So I said, well, can you get the schematic? I said, hold on. I talked to the guy, listen, could you take a picture of this schematic? I said take a one big shot, a 50-50 shot, in thirds and in fourths. He sent me all that stuff. Sent it to Stu. Meanwhile, Stu's looking at it and checking it out. Meanwhile, I'm with the guy on the phone and then he's texting me, the guy on the phone, and says, hey, this is another problem too. I don't know if it's related or not, but the spinner, this has two duck spinners, left and right. The right spinner is like horizontal, like it's not in position. I look at it, it's like, oh, I know why. That stupid godly assembly that holds the spinner straight in place was already cock-eyed out. Even though I tightened the piss out of this thing, it moved. So it moved so much that the spinner is not spinning freely. It's horizontal, which means the spinner is engaging the spinner switch all the time. So if it does that, the game is made to wait. Now, this is according to now. So I think so I said, okay, I think that's a problem. And the guy said, I think it's a problem too. Then stew wait in. This is I think the problem is I'm a little bit of a spinnaker. By looking at the schematic, he's saying spinner. And the reason why is because when the spinner is engaged, it has the game wait for a while to score whatever's scoring that spinner before it lets the out-hole kick the ball out. So the game is waiting in perpetude for that spinner to open up that switch. Come to rest. Yeah, at rest. Come to rest. Come to rest, correct. So it's not. I said move that by hand this way and then tighten the bolt on the other side tighten it good but make sure you have the plate filled up and with one hand this the other hand that so he said okay I moved it like that and I'm playing again so I don't think he tightened the bolt down but he moved it and he's playing again it's like oh I think we're good now so so the guy kind of figured it out so we figured out in visually what Stu figured out electrically was the problem but we all came to the same conclusion freaking spinner being off you didn't have to go back to P-Town no thank god no No. Okay. Not yet anyway. Hopefully not. I think that was the... Oh no. Oh no. Well, I mean, I could go there. I mean, I'm going to go down to Cape again to see my mom. If you're in the neighborhood and not traveling three hours to get there. Yeah. But even if I'm at my mother's house, he's still an hour and a half away. No. I said three hours from your house, easy in Marlboro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I showed him how to do it. I think he's going to do it himself. But I don't know. We'll see how he does. Either or. Goodwill. You go. You're out there. Yeah. So that's that one. Then I got another nightmare. That was a miniature nightmare. I was like freaking out because I was like I'm... Man, you're like a... We're going to call this rant too? You're a troll. Well, no. It's called stress... Pinball stress, man. You know? You spend all this time to get You see, I'm going to copy that one down. Alright. So, Lord of the Rings, this one's supposed to be just, Oh, once you just do a Oh, we're back to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't tell you down here. So, in the middle of us waiting for the thing to spool and go to episode Part Be here, I said, I gotta look at the Lord of the Rings some more, because originally when the guy brought it to me, he said, Oh, the left flipper doesn't work, and it's really filthy and it's I'm going to go ahead and do my job and just do your thing with it and just kind of tune it up. So, okay. So, I said, okay. So, first thing I do is, you know, oh, flipper's not working. Therefore... You said that. You said the board is not... The board's got some issues. Well, no. Well, I'm going to walk you back a little bit. So, first of all, I'm going to... Basically, this is like... This is a troubleshooting for people who like tech stuff. This is a tech stuff gotcha thing for people. All right? Okay. So, each of these flipper assemblies, right next to them, they got a fuse next to them. They got a three-amp slow blow fuse next to these I'm going to show you how to use flippers so in case something goes wrong, the fuse will blow and the flipper coil will melt down. So this left flipper, its fuse was blown. It's like, oh, okay, let me just put another one in. And what do you think happens, George? It blows right away. It blows again. It's like, okay, well, that ain't going to work. It's not that simple. So, you know, the coil moves, the armature moves perfectly in there. It's not burned out or anything. and the other day I was like okay look it up in the schematic oh Q15 is a MOSFET it controls the left flipper Alright well that probably bad Take the board out the driver board put a new one in there it like well if that one blew I might as well put in the right one too I put in both MOSFETs for left and right flippers put that in there put it back in and then let put a fuse back in again And then I tested I tested the flipper as soon as I hit the flipper to go It was this time it wasn on all the time But as soon as I hit go in the flipper hit the flipper button it got stuck on it stayed there no matter what and then it blew the fuse It like okay so you running up a tab on these fuses you got a big bucket of them well You don have one of those Oh I have that I use that too I'm the Dieser at the disobedâte next thing we lay neighborhood another I i ok so what's a close a will be for the Nicole平 여기 디 Invadeweir I'm going to show you how to make a pinball. There's a diode that looks like it's there, but it's actually broken on one of the wires of the diode. So now when the, uh, that's part of the problem. So I basically, I just put a whole new, since this coil is a little bit wonky anyway, you kind of spin it around, it's kind of loosey goosey in there, the windings are kind of weird. I just put a whole new, and actually Lord of the Rings has a special coil, it actually says L-O-T-R on the coils you get. They're not like a regular stern coil, they're actually made for this game. I had these. I put one in there and I changed out the MOSFET again and so that was fine. I fixed the flipper. Then I say, well, while I'm in here, the batteries are corroded. I took the batteries out and I'm looking around and I see, and I take the other boards out, I'm noticing pins are corroded. I'm noticing more corrosion. It's like, oh, but what else is going on here? All right. So I started taking out a socket for the RAM. I put a new socket in there, cleaned all the corrosion out of there, put an NV RAM into it. I think I received a couple other chips. Put it all back together and now I got the dreaded early Stern 2000s where you turn it on and it goes click click, click click, click click, click click. All the lights are flashing all at once and it's clicking like you're taking a left turn signal. It doesn't boot. It just sits there. It's like okay, this sucks. Now what did I do? I must have done something. I have a troubleshooting flow chart for this for basically did you mess with it? Yes. Why did you do that for? Like it was working fine. So I messed with it. Why did you do it? Well, I wanted to, I wanted to improve. I wanted to find problems. I found problems. I actually exacerbated the problem. So, so then I'm going through and see what the hell did I do here? So I changed out the NVRAM again with a different NVRAM. I got these NVRAMs from China and they've been working well for me. But you know what? I'm going to like give it to that one. And I put in a Weebly one. I had a Weebly one for years ago. I put his in there. I think I had a little bit of water on the board because I cleaned it off so I air hosed it off. I already air hosed it off before this. I let it dry overnight, tried it again and before I put the Weebly RAM in there, I tried some other stuff and then I got it to come up but then it would just start playing music and I could hit the start button, I could play a game and the music would go away. But it was still almost erratic behavior. Every time you turn it on, a new problem would happen. So I let it dry out some more, put the Weebly in there, crossed my fingers like okay, are you going to I'm going to be happy now. So now I've turned it on a couple times in a row now and it's good. So I'm letting it sit another couple hours and I'm going to turn it on again. Hopefully it's still good. Because otherwise I'm going to have to call Clive and say, Clive, you've got a board coming your way. Before you call Clive, again, I don't know anything. Could you go out and buy that board? Not very easily. I think you can, but I think I looked before for that board. I think it's pricey. I think it's like, I don't know. Marathon understand this. And as is your point of relay boring? I can get a good used one. It's an older game. But you can get a driver board for it. A driver board you can get. I have one of those but it's a rotten dog which I'm not really thrilled with. Is it just for Sam or does it span other... Just for Sam. Okay. Okay. Just wondering. I'm going to look it up right now for sale. Let's see. Oh, Lord of the Rings. So he does have it. Let's see. Do you have it? Looking at Marco right now. They list a lot of cigars. Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah, they have it. Get, guess. Well, by what you, how you reacted, $9.99. Yeah! Get the boy a cigar. Exactly right. A grand. Insane. Wow. Wow, Clive must be a busy man. Yeah. Yeah, Clive's a bargain. I'm a bargain. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't matter. That's a lot of money for a board. Holy crow. Game ROM is not included. Oh, great. Yeah. Aren't you benevolent? Okay. What else? Is that the end of that story? That's insane. Wow. Boy, oh boy. Okay. So you're letting your game rest. I'm letting it rest. I'm letting it rest. I'm letting it rest. I'm letting it rest. I'm letting it rest. I'm letting it rest. I'm going to go turn it on a couple days from now and see if it works. Right. But in the meantime, I got to work on this more because now I'm looking at other problems in the game. It's just, it was road hard put away wet, you know, black rubber dust everywhere. I mean, is that game worth anything? Oh yeah. People like that game. That's one of the most popular early 2000s Stern games they made. Okay. Yeah, people like it. It's good. It's worth some dough. Okay. It's worth some money. Speaker 8 �� �� He went away. He tries to go away, and then he says, I give up and go away. I'm going to still block you again. It goes back, so he's not really going back and forth. Is the Balrog kind of like Mick on a stick? Better than that. Like the moose on the game hunter? No, he's more like a gate. He's a lit up dragon kind of demon gate thing, a piece of a figurine, a doll that gets in your way. So he swings in front and he swings back, probably like a quarter degree arc, you know, 45 degree. Yeah, it's been a long time. I mean, I played it when it first came out. Or I say 90 degree. He's a 90 degree arc is what he is. Okay. So I got to do, I'm going to do a little Googling on him on Pinstine and figure out, I know in the years ago when I was just Googling around on Pinstine looking at things, I just remember people talking about Balrog, Balrog. Everybody was talking about a Balrog problem. Well, now I get it. It's a Balrog problem. I got to figure out. Yeah, there's probably a fix. Oh, I'm sure it's gotta be by now. So I'm just gonna instead of me trying to, you know, go in there myself. I said, Okay, what did everybody else do to this thing? And then I can figure out what they did and order the parts. The other thing that's good about is a broken plastic on this game is there they always break. It's really cool pinball life actually will sell you the most broken plastic by the whole set like at CPR, you can buy the one plastic you need for pretty cheap money. I think like 1015 bucks or so. I'm a lot of them. Yeah, I think they do because they're always broken, right? So, you know you buy one you buy two you buy three you put them in the game and when you break one you put it back in. Right? Exactly. So I'm going to get that from them and some other some other stuff and then I don't know. I'm going to see if I can get this out of here within a week and if I can't then it's gonna be a little bit longer. So okay, but I'm making making good progress. Unless you have another story. Let's shift to your your party I referred to earlier. I'm going to tell one more little story here. This is like another human interest story, let's say. So I got a Volvo, I got these nice tires, you know, I've had for, I don't know, four years or so. And you get 70,000 miles on them, I get 50,000 miles of life on them. And the road we go around here, they keep having road hazards and every once in a while I keep hitting a nail or a screw or whatever. So, so far, two repairs on those and it was all set. Maureen comes home with the car one day, says, hey, I think the repair you just did, I hear I'm driving and I hear a thump, thump, thump and I'm driving and it's like, that's not a plug. You hit something. So I had her back up and look at it. There's a big... That road was under construction forever. That road was for five years. That road sucks. Five years. Now if this was Sudbury or Newton, this would be fixed, this road would be fixed in about a couple months. In Marlborough, five years. I hated going to your house because of that. They're still not done. It's ridiculous. And then they put all these stupid things in the way, these big barriers in the middle of the road. I told myself going home that foggy night after the rainstorm. Yeah. Oh yeah. That thing like jumped out in front of me. I'm like, oh man, what the hell is that thing? Yeah, right. I figured they're going to maybe put some plants in there or something like that. No, no, no. No, we're just going to pave it. There's no, there's no, there were no striping or anything. There was no warning. Oh yeah. Yeah. The only people, if you look at it really closely, you can see black tire marks on a lot of those. I'm surprised you don't see parts of cars around. Yeah, I'm surprised people aren't going to City Hall and freaking knocking their door down and say you wrecked my car with this stupid crap you don't need. It's useless stuff to in the middle of the road for whatever they put. They put road hazards out there. So speaking of road hazards, she's got almost a pinball leg bolt in the tire. That's how big this thing was in the tire. Pinball leg bolt. I don't want to encourage it. But there are people that throw that crap in the roads. I don't know. Anarchy? I don't know. Okay, well maybe we got a couple of those around here, but this is like the third one. So, okay, so the next day I have an appointment, anyway, good thing, to get all four new tires on anyway on this car to a place that got recommended by John. He said they cater to people like John and I, with ADD and attention to details, like these guys are like you and I with Restoring Games and GivingMeanDaySpot or Pinball Machine. They are nitpicky. It's like perfect. That's what I need. Because the last couple of alignments and tires done this car, they can't do an alignment to save their life. The alignment is always off. You go over a bump, it goes across the road. You take a turn, a small turn, the tires squeal. It just ain't right. So, and the tires were wearing out in the inner part of them too. It was bad. Brought to this guy and said, oh yeah, no problem. He put the new tires on there. He balanced them a certain way. He said, oh, we're doing a special house of the Raid of the wind whereas a heavy and the leticaba bound to that way and they balance in another way titICA tough of balance in remarks that I avocado были Foi eine Grunde unter denBauprofischen Gyleboe kill the room through the timeлем Glyde Solden although it is stuff and anything alignmieren stelle sometimes love a place to go to they higher young kids anydu elaborate violin hours He's supposed to take more than a half. Well, you were talking about this in the last show, not to interrupt. You sure I did? Yeah. I don't think so. Absolutely. No. Did you listen to the last show? Absolutely. I know. I think I, I think I. Fifteen minutes, Johnny. Why are you done? Oh, you do this, you take a picture of it, you line it up, and you did it. Trust me. Mmm. No, it happened on September. No, it happened September 1st. I wouldn't have said that to you. No. I think I told you the story off, off the show. You're misremembering. You mean you came over. Yeah, the people didn't hear this part. Nope. They didn't hear it. Go ahead. Yep, they didn't hear it. No, so what happened so, like you said, Johnny's doing so much, they said, hey, how come you're doing that so quick? How are you getting that done like that? Oh, all you're gonna do is take a hammer here, tap it there, tap it there, take a picture, it's in the green, it's good to go. So these people aren't getting an alignment, they're getting this Johnny screwball to align the car, and that's why these cars aren't aligned, that's why these cars aren't driving right and everything else. So the guy I brought it He said he had a guy with like a Ferrari and he could never get it to line right, never drive right. He said, I'm so glad I found you guys because you guys are the only one. This car has never driven so good after you guys did an alignment and did the balancing on it. So I just called him the other day to call him and said, listen, I want to thank you guys. I'm so glad you called to say thank you for what we did and it's great to hear positive feedback from people when we do the right thing. So he said we do hear that a lot that we do a really good alignment and tire balancing. We don't advertise. We go word of mouth and this is why. It's like, oh perfect. So I'll be using you again next time I need something. So yeah, any kind of corporate place you go to, they're pretty much going to get it wrong. You better go to a garage shady Tree mechanic kind of thing. They'll do the alignment the right way. So that's my spiel there. And we got five minutes. Okay. Close out. Close out. Oh, okay. No, I'm going to close it out. Here we go. Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on. One more thing, sir. I'll give you one more thing, sir. One more thing. Back up a little bit. The bolt in the tire. How am I going to get it to the fricking shop? Well, I said I was going to drive it there on the highway. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Can't do that. It'll freaking blow out on me. Then PJ said, you have AAA, yeah. Why don't you have them bring a fricking flatbed? Good idea. Flatbed came on a flatbed, got over there. t been a great event... http://www.infinitefunctions.com generally gol from Если you 된 involved as far as I'm here with Dave, who is the host of the show, and I'm here with my guest, Maureen, who is hosting a great party. You did a great job, Dave. You did a great job. Thank you. I was on my world tour. This is the segment I call Places We Will Go. Visited with Dave and John and PJ and Scott, Scott Barn, Scott with the pinball barn, me and Jim. John Papadiuk, Black Water Podcast, Twippies Awards, Translator and we have tournament. The winner was John. PJ came in second. We had a three-way playoff for third. And I took that. And Scott almost. I mean, it was a very, very slim margin on eight ball. Eight ball deluxe. So, I ended up not doing well. I didn't do well on that game at all. It was fun being at your house. Then I went down to the Cape. I've heard all about the cape but one thing I did do which is a lot of fun always is went to Treehouse Brewery on the canal with my friend Jim. That's pretty much it. I got no more pinball. No repairs. Have you... It's been too nice. Have you got an opportunity to use the gift I gave you yet? Your birthday gift. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I have not. I just watched it. Dave gave me a $100 bill towel for my birthday. So thank you, Maureen and Dave. No, I have not used it yet. Maybe this afternoon. Turn the pool heater on and we've got 80 plus degrees here. So it's real nice out. Nice. I'll be right over. That sounds like a good time. So with that said, I think that concludes this month. I'll say goodbye. Stay lit and tilted. You heard where that came from. And if you can't be good, be well. I'll hand it over to you, Dave. Thanks for listening and thanks for all the listens lately from new people and people just discovering us and all our fans. Been a lot of fun, great episodes and good times. Wishing you all the best. From one bananasplit to another. Snorky. Drooper and whatever else name is there. Anyway, George. Yeah, it's been a blast. Well, it looks as if our time has just about run out. Just enough left to tell them who the sponsor was. Who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored? Dr. Dave! Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! A-right. George, you don't know what you're saying. George, we've had it with you. Say no rodeo bro dad. Hasta la vista, baby.
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