All right, so I heard a lot of feedback about the new AI-generated intro song that I have. To the point that people were like, Don, this is too rehearsed, this is too plastic. You had Scott Denisey doing your intro music, and I was just looking for a bop. So in response to those people, including my good friend Glenn the Skateboarder who produces music, if you're going to complain about my AI generations, I'm going to have to go in the lab and do it myself. and this is the kind of stuff you're going to end up with. Step inside. Walk this way. Insert corn, babe. Push play. Here we go. Pinball is the bomb, baby. Come and get it on. Living like a flipper with a tight end on. Looking like a pimp, like a literal pimp. Demolition Man cannot be your sim Razzle and a dazzle and a flash a little light We shake your motor lover baby go all night Sometime anytime shaking me sweet Little miss doesn't chomp sugar me Yeah Yeah Now come on Take that pin bot Nudge it up Break the rubber Break it up And pour your novice on me In the name of love Pour some novice on me Come on, fire me up Put your money in me I can't get enough My cash box is sticky sweet From the head to the pinball feet, yeah! Oh my goodness. Yeah, so we've got an incredible show now that we can get started. Number 189 from Don's Pinball Podcast. I'm going to cover everything from the Jaws 50th to what is game of the show currently at the Golden State Pinball Festival going on in Lodi. As we get started, be sure and give me feedback. Rate this show on Spotify or wherever you're listening. Totally helps out. Email Don's Pinball Podcast at gmail.com. Ticket at me and hang out over on the Patreon where you can win stuff every month and we have a great discussion always going. And new and bonus and rare tidbits seem to make their way on over there. All right, so let's start with a King Kong production update. These are what people like to hear. What's going on over there at the Stern Factory? Don, do you have any idea when I'm getting my premium? I'm not even a distributor and I'm getting asked these questions. So I reached out and I found out that premiums have been leaving the factory with the first ones left as of Friday. Just a God, what was that yesterday? I don't even know what day I'm recording this. It's sometime going into the weekend. Regardless, Friday, the first premiums went out to the point that late this afternoon, I got a call saying that my game's ready to pick up at the warehouse. So I'll be heading in there Sunday, which might be today, might be tomorrow. I'm still time delayed. I'm in some kind of time loop for my trip to Singapore. But we're back now. So I'll be picking that up soon. LEs should be in the homes of consumers. I believe they've sold through now. Some may still be available from distributors. We'll see what the holding power for the great big ape is. See if people will hang on to those. Or if they're going to chuck them as soon as we get Harry Potter released. Pros are going to start coming out this next week. And then I think they're just going to alternate. Now, I think the reason they did this was because they just finished the run of the LEs. And so they got all these damn green spiders around. and with the playfield layout being not dissimilar, they probably just ran a ton of populated playfields and just started throwing them in LE cabinets and throwing them in premium cabinets. And now that they're caught up, they can make the spiderless edition. Because when you compare the pro premium and LE, like the only difference between the pro and the bigger cousins is essentially the green spider. Is that it? I mean, you get a gesticulating ape in the back and a physical ball lock. But man, I love that Stern is going on with these loaded pros and I want them to continue that so nobody say nothing. We'll keep complaining there's not enough value in there, and maybe they'll just go ahead and just keep adding it in. All right, can you work with me? I think we can all work with that. What else is going on? Literally down the street from Stern Pinball at the house of currently Harry Potter, have you seen some of the controversy about Harry Potter? Go over to the Kineticist if you haven't. I won't weigh into it too much here. I'm trying to stick with just the pinball, but I can see very valid arguments on every side. Well, more so one than the other. Regardless, my own controversy with Harry Potter is am I even going to get this game? Now, hear me out. Don, you buy everything. Come on. Listen, I'm pretty much full right now. I do have a Kong coming in. It's a project. It'll be going back out again. I'm still holding tight to that no purchasing new in box in 2025. I did some trades, and D&D LE is so far the only trade that's staying here. Everything else has gone out. Harry Potter was going to be the one that was going to break me. And three weeks ago, that money was absolutely allocated. And then, you know, economic reasons happen. Uncertainty happens. I don't even know which way we're heading now in the United States economy. I know what it's wreaking havoc overseas. I know tariffs are still in the mix. All of that business. Uncertainty. I don't know if, like, I should go in on this game. Plus, look at the last five or the last ever pinball machines that Harry Potter has put out. And there is only one shining example of one that is still retaining massive value, and that's Pirates of the Caribbean. And that's only because nobody wanted the dang thing, right? So everybody, it seems, wants this Harry Potter machine. Anybody that is tolerant of Harry Potter in general wants this machine, right? So this is not the same situation with Pirates of the Caribbean, where there was low demand and so not that many were made. And then when the game became desirable later on, it was like, well, there's not that many to pick from. So it's more of a, not Cosmic Carnival, what's that damn Big Bang Bar situation, where the game is absolutely not great, although it's kind of interesting. It's not incredible. However, because there's only like seven of them in the wild, it's going to go for a lot of money. Kind of like that other Data East Kong, man. Try to get one of those, what are there, three of them? So I think we're in a different situation here. Harry Potter is going to be mad popular. and they're going to sell a ton of these things. And then this might be, well, I don't know if it'll be the second coming of GNR. I know GNR suffers not because it doesn't have an incredible light show, not because it's not absolutely packed with content and music. I mean, of all the music pins, there's so many good songs in Guns N' Roses. It's just that there's thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of them out there. So, like, they're selling for, like, five grand now. If you want to move a GNRL-E, man, you've got to be sub-6 to get that thing out of there. I sold at 6, and I thought that was an incredible low-level amount. But now I think if I had one for sale for 6, it would just be sitting there. So my point is this. I kind of think I can get Harry Potter at any point. Now, last week, I was like, you know what? I've got Avatar CE. Let me get this sold. 12.5 is what I was going to ask for it. And I put it out on my Discord. I put it out to my friends. And the thing is, this is the other thing, man. I just got this game, finally. Like, I'm not ready to get rid of it yet. It's still fun for me to play. It's the CE. It's the good version. I loaded it with glow balls. And multi on Pandora with the UV lights when an eclipse hits It as much fun as the first time I played it in the factory So like I not really ready to get rid of the game And when I look back two months ago I was dressed just down the hall as Blue Monkey Man taking this thing out of the box and everything. I still have some trans lights left to give away. So, like, it's just too soon. Now, when I was originally told about this game and originally put my order in, the word was November. November dawn, the CEs are getting made. That's when you're going to get yours. I would say November, maybe a little end of the way, maybe December, fine. That would have been okay because here we are sitting at the end of May, and I would have had it for January, February, March, April, May, and then also December and part of November. So I would have had it for like six months. It would have been reasonable to then say, you know what? I'll take a couple thousand off of it. I've been playing the game this whole time. We'll gift it to somebody else and roll that money into Harry Potter. However, I didn't even get this game until March. I've only had it two months now, man. I'm not six months down the road with this thing. So, like, it's too soon to try to get rid of it. But then what am I supposed to do? Open the door for the Harry Wizard to come on in? I just think that's too much too quick, right? I don't think I would appreciate it that much. And I don't think that the Harry Potter CE is going to be hard to get because it's not limited at all. And if they sell thousands and thousands and thousands of them, you know, by the time I'm, like, caught up playing all my other games, it might be time for Harry Potter. That's the argument I'm making to myself. I could keep some money in the pocket, build up the funds, especially in the light of economic uncertainty. What do you guys think? Does this seem reasonable? Of course I want the dang game. It's going to be a Jersey Jack. It's going to be at least as good as, you know, one of the other games that Eric's done. Godfather, the way it plays, isn't terrible. The theme just doesn't do anything for me. I really wish the game had some more in it. But, man, it is a beautiful game. So if this is going to be all sizzle and no steak with the hairy wizard, I just don't know. I guess ultimately it's going to take the reveal to let me know what's going on. And I've heard all kinds of reasons for the delays. I've heard that they were waiting for the marketing approval from the licensor. Even though the licensor has approved everything else in the game, a separate team does the marketing and release. Could be that. Could be filming the video. Now there was some wild accusation floating around that there was a last-minute change of the play field, so they all had to be stripped out of the cabinets, and the cabinets are sitting there with no playfields. Who knows at this point? I don't know. but until I know more, I'm not making a decision. So right now, there's a very good possibility that I'm not buying this thing at launch, and I think that's just fine because I don't think I will have any problem getting one when I need to, and it is fun to have games at a location. Guys, let me know what you think. Let me know what you think. When it comes to, like, certainty in pinball for where we're at, I kind of think the only sure thing, and I'm going to put my spooky shill shirt on right now, but Spooky Pinball's next game may be the only one that really is kind of like a sure bet everybody go into look at the 888 of Evil Dead as soon as people played it literally as soon as people played it as soon as the TPF doors opened up that game was rapidly on its way to selling completely out and now that it's out you can get $2000 more for this game we're almost like Golden Age back when people were holding on to the Pulp Fiction LEs before they knew it was going to be 6 years until they got a machine for Spooky. So people are awake now to the quality and what's in this game. I just played the Cheryl multiball. Fantastic. More to come for this game, too. So yeah, a solid release from Spooky, a true return to form, and given that their next title is going to be another one of these big licenses that people are really going to connect with, and the fact that they're still going to keep it under 1,000 games that they're going to build, they could probably have sold 2,000 Evil Deads or at least 1,500. No problem. The thing is, the guys don't want to build that many. They want to move on to the next game. They've got a backlog of all kinds of stuff they want to get out. You've heard it before. So the next under 1,000 release from Spooky will probably be in a Halloween situation where everybody missed out on Rick and Morty and then they rushed in on Halloween. The difference is it's probably going to be a much better game than Halloween is. So I've got some cash earmarked for that just so I'm not FOMOing. Plus, if you go in early, you get one of the early builds. You're not waiting like the other 600 people right now still waiting for Evil Dead. Game's awesome, man. I was just playing it. I got the update in it. I'm going to go dive back into it as soon as this recording session has elapsed. What else do we got? Dune. So let me talk about Dune for a little bit. David David Van Es, how you doing, my homie? Your game has a worm in it, and I do like shooting it. So I went to IO Arcade, did a little live on Facebook over there. Happened to be in Madison, Wisconsin. One of the first Dunes on location is out there. Hilton's routing it. just had a launch party for Evil Dead as it turns out so I was in the area so I bopped on in there as soon as doors opened I was the only one in IO Arcade and it was just me and Dune and like 5 or 6 bucks and I was like let's go get some damn sandworms I played this game on Houston incredibly jet lagged from coming from Pentastic needing to go up to Stern came through there played the game you know with everybody around and everything this was like me alone in an arcade quiet so I could like just play this game and listen to it. So that was super fun. Very thankful I have this game in my neighborhood. More operators, go get a Dune so people can play it. Longest lines of Golden State, apparently. So Dune was still running like the same code, the pre-release code that was at the factory. It had not yet been updated. I talked to David David Van Es, and he did say that there was an update that wasn't applied yet, and so he called the operator, and it's going to get that in there. But playing this code, god, there's nothing in it, man. There's music and just barely a call-out, and the game was just, like, dull. It was as dull as the Arrakis planes playing it with this early code. The shots were interesting, and after playing a couple of games, I started to get in the rhythm of where the shots were on the flippers, so I feel that this game does shoot much better than Labyrinth. I wasn't bricking any shots anywhere, at least not to the extent that I was in Labyrinth. What an incredible game, but you really have to be precise with those shots. This was more, let's throw balls around Arrakis. An insert would light up. I could hit it. Now, I had no idea what that insert was doing. The game wasn't telling me what the insert was doing. The spinners still don't have the decals on them yet. Those are coming. So all in all, it was, while a lackluster play experience, I did have fun playing the layout. It was like playing a Whitewood, is what it was. Some moody music. Every now and then, like a call-out that seemed out of context. I was able to play that pain box, ball saver mode. I mean, I played it a couple of times, but I was able to successfully complete it, which was fun. I wasn't able to do that at the factory. This is where you go down that left out lane when it's active. Your ball will get locked over there. That pain box will come out of the little fiery hole that was on Labyrinth, and you have to keep your hand on the action button and play one-handed. It's simulating your hand in that dune pain box or whatever, where you have to, like, endure. And so you have to play the game one-handed and just try to hit the left orbit shot. And so I was able to successfully do it, so that was fun. I think it's something that I could learn and get better at as well. So I feel a little bit better about that. When I played the game initially in Houston, I wasn't able to complete it, and it seemed like that whole mode effect was just wasted on me because there's no way I was going to get it. But I did. I used my nudging skills, my dead flippers, and bounced over, my cradle tactics, and I was able to line up the shot and get it. So that was fun. So the main thing I was enjoying with the game were the shots, although the shots weren't really connecting with me on a code basis yet. Still too early to judge. I'd like to see what the reception is from Golden State Pinball Festival going on in Lodi, California this weekend. There was something like 10 or 12 King Kongs there so no hour long lines like we saw at what was that recent of Allentown had like one King Kong and it was like an hour plus to wait to play it Inexcusable for a game that just came out that is in abundance You know, Stern usually has like, you know, 10 or 20 games whenever something new comes out. Metallica Remastered aside. You know, so I guess there's plenty of Kongs. Thank goodness for that. There's one Dune, and there is a portal there, but I'm not hearing that it is game of the show, mainly because it sounds like it has not yet operated at the show. I have no idea what the problem is, but the somebody has said thing tells me that I left flippers dead or something, and they're waiting for a rebuild now. Hey, flippers are typically off-the-shelf parts. I've been at shows before where a major pinball company would have a mess-up with a flipper coil, and they would just ask around to another company, and I saw this. I saw this. The company went over to Spooky, and they're like, yeah, here's a coil. Throw it in there. You throw it in the part, boom, you're back going. A lot of these parts are interchangeable, except on a machine like a P3, because it's all cantilevered and maybe uses the same coils, but definitely not the same flipper mechanism on the account of the LCD TV that's part of the play field. So, you know, I'm always waiting to hear reception on Game of the Show of Portal, and so far it's got problems, which sucks, because I know people want to play this game. It's still not out in abundance. We were playing it at Pentastic, and when it would break, we would kind of all get together and get the game fixed and going again, if you remember all that stuff. I got yelled at for calling out the game that was a prototype condition, and my response to that is, listen, you put this game out in public and you're actively asking people for money for it, and so then you're going to blame problems on a prototype. That's not a good look. It should have been like, listen, that's the prototype one we have out there. The machine is just getting into production. That's the only way we could have someone there for them to play. We've taken that feedback. We've already rectified it. Thanks for pointing it out. Or something like that would have been a good approach. Well, that's me giving marketing advice to people that already know everything they need to know. Why am I even dwelling on that? Sure, a multiball was awesome. You play two modes in Evil Dead 1. You go right into that multiball. There's a jump scare in it. I love that. Henrietta Multiball is in the works. That's probably going to be the same thing, but on the other side of the game, on the Evil Dead 2 side. So fantastic. I'm going to jump back in there. What else do we have going on in the world of Dawn's Pinball Podcast? D&D got a huge code update, which was awesome. I haven't seen that that's added the extra unlockable characters yet, so I'm still waiting for that. Because man, I beat Simaster again. I'm about to just reset all my progress and start all the way over, just so I can build back up. I was able to play the wizard mode through twice now. And it is a very forgiving mode. I do appreciate that. What an adventure of a game. I totally dig it. So I got myself a premium in an LE. The premium got made over. I did this great red powder coat on the machine with like a top coat of glitter that's on it. So it's like glittery and red and the whole thing is just fire, man. I totally dig it. I'm working on the topper right now. It's going to feature the tyrant's eye, which is the scepter with an eyeball on it that's chained to the top of the scepter that Semaster uses. And maybe when you beat each of the bosses, they're each using the same Tyrant's Eye staff in their own way. I'm making myself a virtual version of that. I'm sticking it on the topper. It's going to be in a dungeon scene. The whole thing's going to light up. It's going to be great. Can't wait for that. The pinball scientist, Ryan Tanner, he also has an aftermarket topper available. It's got some of those little fiery fan effects on two castle towers. It's kind of cool. I think it's $9.75 or something, if you want to jump in on that. He's over there on the Facebook. You can go dig around and find that one. Otherwise, I'm cobbling together, as always, something that I think is cool. I'm going to make it for my machine, and I'm going to make it for the premium that is on its way out to the 1UP Lounge in Bellingham. I think that machine is going to make an appearance at the Pinball Northwestern Convention, or whatever pinball event is going on in Seattle here in June. I think my Jaws, my Metallica And the D&D that I've made over Will all be there And so that would be cool not to miss Thanks to the 1UP Lounge guys for doing that If that's still the plan I've got to hear confirmation with them And Kong will be joining the mix as soon as I'm finished with it That'll come this fall So I'm excited man Here's another cool thing I did So I've been using in the last couple of builds The Plexi Art Blades That Custom Pinball does It's Custom Pinball on Facebook. His website's pinballcustom.com. And this guy creates his own art blades and other acrylics and sticker things. He's got a print shop, like a UV printer. He's in France. But he's the only one that's actually printing on this plexi material. It's about an eighth of an inch thick. It's flexible. It's essentially like a Radcal is. And so these are more durable, and they've got that Radcal sheen on them that looks so nice. It looks like what Jersey Jack is using on their inside of their cabinets now. so I've been buying them from him they're 120 euros plus like 10 to deliver uh to the U.S. plus or minus tariffs um but I like these things and people have been asking me Don where do you get them and so I've been pointing people over there so I reached out to the dude and I'm like hey I got people asking me about your stuff I'm sending people over there what about a discount code for folks and he's like yeah Don sounds like a great idea so while I don't know if it's active right this minute it might be I got a message out to him uh he says you could add code Don as a promo code D-O-N and get 10 euros off an order if you pick up something from him. He's got regular Art Blades, but I really like these Plexi ones. The ones he did for Big Lebowski were just phenomenal, man. Matched the art really well. God, I loved them. So I'm not getting any kickback at all for this. I'm not getting any money if you buy anything. It's just a product that I like that I've mentioned. Other people are starting to order them too, and so I thought I'd reach out and see if I can't do a little bit of a homie hookup, you know, soften the blow a little bit since they are a little bit more pricey than a regular Art Blade. But, man, the shininess that's on there. I've done them on Stranger Things. I just did them on D&D. I had them print me some custom ones for WrestleMania that have Macho Man on them, and they're all shiny. God, I love them. He doesn't give me a deal on prices or anything, but now I can use my own damn discount code. Code Don, 10 euros off. It's custom pinball, but you have to do pinballcustom.com is his website. I guess somebody else took the other one. But check it out. Buy them or don't. But if you do, there's a discount code for you. that's just a homie hookup that I'm passing over to you guys. Speaking of 50th anniversary rumors, Jaws, man. Jaws. So this has popped up again. Now, I had heard through, like, a friend of a friend who talked to a guy who listened to a hobo on a subway that there were several art packages done for Jaws, the pinball machine that we saw from Stern, like more than they had cabinets for, apparently. And so back then we were hearing rumors also that there was going to be an SLE edition, That super limited edition The last time I think they did this Was probably Elvira and Batman 66 Like back in the Kapow Games days Where they would make a limited version And then they would make a limited limited version This is where we saw things like What happened with Elvira There was the premium of the LE And then after the limited edition They did a signature edition And that's the one that had a piece of couch in it And that was like the special limited edition Where there was only like 199 of those or something maybe less and then they did another 40th anniversary edition where i think that was 199 and had purple powder coat and like was the best looking machine um arguably and then blood red kiss came out for 13 000 that sle was 25 oh my goodness so we were hearing like there was gonna be an sle version of jaws right pre and it like what would you even put in that and they tend to be this you know dealers set your own price try to get for them like an extra premium product I like the Bond 60th So with Bond, that was a completely different game, like a totally different context of a game, too, you know, where it was like a throwback design of, like, you know, a 1970s-type pinball, but with modern accoutrement. And it had the score wheels and everything, score reels. So obviously throwback, kind of like Beatles was. So apparently, you know, Jaws would be something as well. But I don't think it would be a departure where this would be a completely different game, like a 70s shark game that would go for $20,000 and then would be 11 in a couple of years. Maybe what this would be is just a new art package on Jaws, overseen by the new head creative honcho of art, Zombie Yeti. What if it's a Zombie Yeti version of Jaws with the white powder-cutter armor? And it would have to come with the shooter rod and it would have to come with a topper to be like, this is the ultimate package. Because when they did this with Jurassic Park, that was strictly a cash grab, to use the parlance of our times, where essentially they just did a brown powder coat, and then they did art that didn't make a lot of sense because it had dinosaurs in it that weren't even in the Jurassic Park movie. It was from Jurassic World. And then it was kind of brown. I guess, you know, Johnny Crap, they were going with a brown theme. And then they charged full LE price for this and then just cheesed off all the other LE owners of Jurassic Park. They only made 500 back then, right? They were still doing lower numbers. So how would this hit the Jaws LE market? I don't know. I think if they just released it as another LE and included a topper, but that would probably piss off the people that had already owned an LE and then had to pay extra for the topper because they could have waited and for cheaper got a better – I don't know. We'll see what happens. NAP's reporting it, so we'll see how that shakes out. But will this game be launched Before we see the next Stern Cornerstone And before we see that next remaster Heavily rumored to be Walking Dead I'd like to see this, I was looking the other day It must have been on Wikipedia or something Looking at power supplies And was Walking Dead, correct me if I'm wrong Was that a Sam system? And it wasn't even Spike 1 yet? Because I know like the Spike 1 games There's really not that many of them WWE is one of them, I noticed that I think Kiss was as well Like they had the dot matrix display still But it seemed like a higher resolution Higher refresh rate more complicated animations On that versus the other ones So would this be like going back to the Sam system For Walking Dead and bringing That into the Spike 2 slash 3 System now I think that's Kind of cool we'll see We'll know more by Pinball Expo So let's see Pinball Expo what happened Last year last year Pinball Expo is they had Metallica remastered And they had X-Men X-Men had been released So that was like the newest Stern game And then midway through the show Like on Saturday after the Thursday and Friday festivities Saturday they showed up with these two Metallicas So like that was fresh Had just dropped So I think we could see a situation where The next Stern Cornerstone will be at Expo In the fall Plus like they might rush in the remaster If they pick the same launch windows and such That's shaking out to be pretty cool Was Evil Dead No Evil Dead wasn't there at Expo. It'd probably be too early for Spooky's next one. I'm trying to forecast and see how the fall's going to play out. Maybe we'll see Harry Potter by then. Maybe we'll see Predator by then. Maybe we'll see this rumored Cuphead title by then. Or not. Geez, man. We're going to know so much more. Pinball Brothers, what are you doing, guys? What are you doing? Get Predator out. Please make it better than ABBA. Please. Raise your hand if you ordered ABBA. I know of one in the U.S. that was sold. I'm sure there's some more out there, but I get the feeling that there might have been like 17 ABBAs sold or something. It just seems dismal to me. How many did they even make? Is it even more than 30? And again, I keep when I bring this up to people, like this is wild. This game released and it's nowhere. It's nowhere. I don't know where any ABBAs are. I know where one is. It's in a home and like a great collection, by the way, too. But yeah, I'm not seeing them anywhere. Like, I see more burial barbecue challenges than I do ABBAs. That's so crazy. Anyway, when I mention this to people, I get the same thing. Don, it's probably selling great in Europe. And to that I say, I don't think so. I don't think so. Every European I've talked to, I've subtly mentioned, like, hey, what do you think of ABBA? Have you played it? Is it selling? Do you see them around? And it's like, they're just as befuddled as all of us why this game was even made. The game itself, not terribly fun. I've played worse. I played Home Pin. God, oh, man, Spinal Tap was just unplayable. So it's not unplayable. It's not Spinal Tap. It was technically unplayable at Pintastic because it's sitting right next to Spinal Tap, and they're both broken the whole time the show was going on. So sad. I wanted to play some more ABBA. But, like, outside of shows, I'm really not seeing ABBAs anywhere at all. And so they really need a game that people want. And it sounds like Predator, even if Predator had the same layout as ABBA, A total palette swap, I think it would sell. It's got the copter. It's got the ramps. Oh, my God, they're going to reuse the ABBA layout for Predator, aren't they? Dang it, I'm calling Cengiz, man. He's got to dispel this for me. I know he can't say anything because, like, he's seen it. He's played it. He's offered advice, allegedly. I'm sure he has. But I got to wonder, did they just reuse the ABBA layout? Were they working on the Predator layout? And they're like, hey, if we swap that copter, my buddy's got the ABBA license. Maybe we can drop this in. I'll see if I can rattle anything out of him, but he's usually exceedingly tight-lipped about these sorts of things when he's seen them. Maybe I can get him to, like, spill his beer on his chest if they did do that. It could be, like, a subtle signal. Oh, my God, if they just rehashed the ABBA layout for Predator. Oh, man. All right, so let me put this out to you guys as feedback. Let's just say we live in a timeline where they did this, and you're stoked on Predator. would you buy Predator if it was a re-theme or just a re-skin of ABBA throw it out to me let me know what you think email me back there at donspinballpodcast.gmail.com I will spare you guys from doing another Don Instrumental recorded layout of a song for AI I think we'll use the other AI outro that I already have queued up here but hey man where are the rest of the podcasts I know we're all waiting for Harry Potter to come out but there's been like an absolute dearth of entertainment Pinball Nerds Podcast came through with the heat. Thank you, sir, very much for that. Kind of tournament heavy, but I know that's your jam. So I want to get out there and be a void filler as best as I can. Also, I want to plug the other show that I do with JNGAZ. We are Pinball. Just dropped a killer episode with Jeff Cernava of Mad Pinball. Talked with all kinds of distributor nonsense. What a charming guy. And, you know, you can tell that I took some time and sat back from my mic a little bit to let them chat it out. So you'll have to turn it up a little bit towards the end there. audio levels are hard. If you're an audio engineer, I'm absolutely hiring. And if you've got any kind of talent potion, you know I'd be all about that. Pinball's back, baby! Let's get into it. It's the doldrums of summer that we're heading into, but we can head down to the lake. We can play some damn games. We're getting code updates like crazy. And we still got a deluge of games to be released upon us. Let me know about your Harry Potter. What do you think? Are you still in on it no matter what? Are you saving that money for Predator? I gotta wonder. I mean, it's kind of a bop, right? Later, everybody.