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Episode 99 – Outlash

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jul 12, 2018
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt Ep99: 12 Hours of Stomp recap; Steve Bowden joins Deep Root Pinball, plans massive Pinburgh bank reveal stream.

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale host Episode 99 of Slam Tilt podcast, featuring Steve Bowden, winner of the 12 Hours of Stomp tournament. The episode covers tournament highlights, technical issues (Getaway multiball bug, streaming/VOD problems), and a surprise guest appearance by Steph (pinball princess). Major news: Steve Bowden has joined Deep Root Pinball as a rules designer and pinball ambassador, and will livestream all 288 games of Pinburgh tournament banks on July 14th.

Key Claims

  • Steve Bowden won the 12 Hours of Stomp tournament, achieving first place in round three and never relinquishing it for the remaining 16+ rounds.

    high confidence · Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discussing tournament results; confirmed by multiple speakers

  • Getaway has a documented multiball bug where multiball can restart unexpectedly, resetting jackpot values back to base amounts.

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale detailed explanation of bug mechanics observed during tournament play; identified as fixed in latest Soarin's ROM

  • Steve Bowden has taken a position at Deep Root Pinball as a rules designer and pinball ambassador.

    high confidence · Steve Bowden directly confirms new role; moved to the South; will be working with Path of Play and Project Pinball charities

  • Steve Bowden will livestream all 288 games (72 banks × 4 games each) of the Pinburgh tournament banks on July 14th starting at 10 a.m. Eastern time.

    high confidence · Steve Bowden announces challenge live on podcast; confirmed as Pinburgh Bank Reveal event sponsored by Deep Root Pinball

  • The 12 Hours of Stomp livestream lasted 12 hours and 47 minutes, exceeding YouTube's 12-hour maximum video length limit.

    high confidence · Ron Hallett describing YouTube upload failure and subsequent workaround; video being re-uploaded to YouTube with adjusted encoding

  • Miss Steph (pinball princess) made a surprise guest appearance at the 12 Hours of Stomp event, arriving at 6:45 p.m. with Zach Sharpe.

    high confidence · Ron Hallett describing surprise guest arrival; plan coordinated at Pintastic event with Zach Sharpe and his father Ron

  • There were approximately 27 players competing in the 12 Hours of Stomp tournament across 26 games over 12 hours.

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing tournament structure and final standings

  • Jerry Menard and Zach Sharpe tied for second place at Stomp; their tiebreaker was decided via random.org selecting Indiana Jones, but both declined to play it, so they played STARS instead, which Jerry won.

Notable Quotes

  • “I just was hoping I could play out Tee'd Off a lead, be lucky enough Tee'd Off get Tee'd Off a lead where I could just coast. And then I spent a lot of time not looking at the scoreboards... I looked and I saw I was double-jiggered ahead. And I was like, okay, just don't screw it up.”

    Steve Bowden @ early in episode — Explains tournament strategy and mental approach to maintaining the lead throughout 16+ rounds

  • “When you run into the bug, just deal with it, I guess... There is a fix for that. And the newest one in Soarin's ROM, which is what's running in mine. So I should not experience, would not experience that issue.”

    Bruce Nightingale / Speaker discussing Getaway multiball bug @ mid-episode — Confirms Getaway multiball bug workaround and ROM fix availability

  • “I look up and I turn around like we're just getting ready Tee'd Off go, and there's this 4'11 person right next Tee'd Off me. Miss Steph, the pinball princess, had a ride with the boys, which was very cool.”

    Ron Hallett @ later in episode — Announces surprise guest appearance at tournament; emotional highlight of the event

  • “All of it. As in? All of it, as in all of the banks, as in all 72 times 4 equals 288 games of pinball. All of it.”

    Steve Bowden @ near end of episode — Announces massive Pinburgh bank reveal challenge; 288 consecutive games scheduled for July 14th

  • “It's rules designer, but the pinball ambassador part is sort of there also as a thing Tee'd Off recognize that I will be continuing certain charity work and, you know, especially Path of Play and Project Pinball.”

    Steve Bowden @ late episode — Clarifies Deep Root Pinball role and commitment to charity organizations

  • “Papa is stealing our idea and taking it to the next level... People steal our ideas, but then they make them better.”

    Ron Hallett / Bruce Nightingale @ near end — Acknowledges prior Slam Tilt bank review content (with Tim Balls and Steve) being expanded by Deep Root Pinball

Entities

Steve BowdenpersonRon HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonZach SharpepersonJerry MenardpersonStephpersonJeff TeolispersonDeep Root Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Steve Bowden's 12 Hours of Stomp victory strategy involved avoiding scoreboards to prevent pressure, then maintaining consistency once aware of significant lead (double-jiggered ahead)

    high · Steve directly explained avoiding scoreboards then maintaining focus once aware of 20+ point lead maintained across 16+ rounds

  • ?

    product_concern: Getaway multiball has documented bug where multiball can restart unexpectedly during Redline Mania, resetting jackpot values; fix available in Soarin's ROM version

    high · Bruce Nightingale detailed explanation of bug mechanics; confirmed fix in latest ROM; notes need to implement on his machine

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Steve Bowden hired by Deep Root Pinball as rules designer and pinball ambassador; role includes charity work coordination (Path of Play, Project Pinball)

    high · Steve Bowden announces new role; describes responsibilities; confirms relocation to South; discusses charity commitment preservation

  • ?

    content_signal: 12 Hours of Stomp livestream (12:47 total) faced multiple technical issues: Twitch VOD inaccessible after stream end; YouTube rejected video as exceeding 12-hour limit; re-uploading to YouTube as workaround

    high · Ron Hallett describes multiple platform failures; YouTube processing issues; eventual successful re-upload in progress

  • ?

    event_signal: Pinburgh Tournament Banks reveal scheduled for July 14th, 10 a.m. Eastern via Deep Root Pinball YouTube channel; Steve Bowden will livestream all 288 games (72 banks × 4 games)

Transcript

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0:00
Aw, dammit, the damn thing quit on me. I don't have time for this. What the hell happened to my hedge? Boy, I tell you what, I'm gonna give a piece of my mind to them bastards down at Morgan's. You and your damn steamroller ruined my hedge! To hell with your hedge, look at my driveway! You're gonna pay for this, Anderson! Like hell I am, you're the one who told me to rent from Morgan's. Now get the hell off my property, you son of a bitch! if i ever see that damn dog of yours peeing on my yard again i'm gonna shoot both of you
0:43
so coming to you from beautiful state new york this is the slam show podcast show about all things Spinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Stomp, stomp, stomp, 12 hours, 12, 12 hours, stomp. That was bad, as usual. Talk about 12 hours of stomp. I don't even know what you're covering there. Doobie doobie doo bop, but what about babe? Stomp, stomp, stomp. Yes, sirree. Okay, this is episode 99, Iron Man 3. Good movie. Not great, but good. Probably the worst Iron Man, I would say. Really? I thought Iron Man 2 was the worst. No, no, no, because you have the Black Widow introduced, and you can't beat that. Okay. All right. All right. Well, we're breaking the string. We are not alone this week. We are not alone. We have a guest, and he is the winner of the 12 Hours of Stomp, the master of longevity, the crusher of souls of 46 other people. A hard fought, just very close. He just eked out victory. Yeah, no, he did. He crushed us all. Oh, well. Hi, Steve. How are you doing? Hi, guys. Yeah, I just was hoping I could play out to a lead, be lucky enough to get to a lead where I could just coast in. And then I spent a lot of time not looking at the scoreboards. I didn't want to see, because I noticed I had got second, second, first, You know, like that. And then I said, okay, I'm not going to look. And then I looked and I saw I was double-jiggered ahead. And I was like, okay, just don't screw it up. Just don't, you know, don't screw it up. Just play reasonably well. You know, let people join you in the top group and just don't mess up. And it worked out. Normally when you say don't mess up, you mess up. But I didn't. And that was okay. So welcome Steve Bowden to the podcast, ladies and gentlemen. He only had one third place during all of Stomp. Which should have been a fourth place because I had nothing on Elvis. It's true. I totally have to agree with you on that one. Eric Russell had even less of nothing, and he gifted me two points on that one. He did. Man.

high confidence · Ron Hallett explaining tiebreaker procedure and outcome; both players said 'no' to Indiana Jones selection

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Attack from Marsgame
Lord of the Ringsgame
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Pinburghevent
Pinburgh Tournament Banksproduct
Silver Ball Saloonvenue
Path of Playorganization
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Papa Dukeperson

high · Steve Bowden announces challenge with specific time, date, and game count; confirmed as Deep Root Pinball-sponsored event

  • ?

    community_signal: Surprise guest appearance by Steph (pinball princess) at Stomp; appearance coordinated at Pintastic between Ron Hallett, Zach Sharpe, Steph, and Zach's father; required 6+ hour drive and schedule coordination

    high · Ron Hallett details planning at Pintastic event; describes coordination logistics; confirms successful surprise arrival

  • ?

    business_signal: Deep Root Pinball recruiting top tournament players to high-profile roles (Steve Bowden as rules designer); appears to be emerging talent acquisition strategy

    medium · Steve Bowden's hire; Ron Hallett notes pattern of Slam Tilt podcast guests getting hired by pinball companies; mentions this happened with Stern as well

  • ?

    venue_signal: Silver Ball Saloon layout constrains streaming coverage during multi-table tournaments; fixed game positions make camera placement difficult; wiring constraints prevent repositioning

    medium · Ron and Bruce discuss streaming camera placement challenges; multiple game transitions noted (Walking Dead, Mustang, Elvis, Attack from Mars)

  • ?

    operational_signal: During 12-hour tournament, two mid-tournament repairs were required: Swords of Fury upper diverter spring (fixed during food break), Dracula CPU/driver board connector reseating (fixed same break)

    high · Ron Hallett describes two games requiring fixes during 1-hour food break; both successfully resolved before tournament resumed

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Zach Sharpe achieved 29.4-second victory on Lord of the Rings bounty challenge (defeat ring in under 30 seconds), collecting additional $30 prize; played in powerhouse group with Jerry Menard, Eric Russell, and Zach Sharpe

    high · Ron Hallett describes bounty challenge and timer; Steve Bowden confirmed victory; notes powerhouse group composition

  • ?

    content_signal: Slam Tilt podcast participants interviewed for unspecified pinball documentary; signed electronic releases via iPad; expect limited screen time (15-20 seconds) with potential cuts due to rights issues

    medium · Ron and Bruce discuss documentary interview at Stomp; mention electronic iPad releases; speculate about final edit length and potential cuts

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Zach Sharpe strongly advocates for Stern's Star Wars as 'Stern Pinball's best game in 10 years' while Jeff Teolis criticizes it heavily; generated entertaining podcast commentary

    medium · Ron Hallett notes audience debate between Zach Sharpe and Jeff Teolis regarding Star Wars quality and design; describes as entertaining moment

    • 3:02
    But I took that one. I have one thing to say. I took Steve on Elvis. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Stupid lock shot. Damn lock shot. Stupid lock. I think I was in Steve's group once on Getaway where, like, everyone got to Redline Media but me. Yes, you were second.
    3:22
    How was I? No, I wasn't second. I'm second right now. I wasn't second. There's no way. I was a distant fourth. Like, everyone in that group. Jerry was in that. Yeah, Jerry was in that, right? Yeah, and me. And me. Okay. I had $228 million on Getaway going after Ball 3. I was the player one. and these guys just ran right over me like I was a freaking speed bump in the road. Man, I ran into the bug twice. I know. I have to plan against that. How do I avoid that? I think I was messing up by, I think I had all the locks lit before I started Redline Mania. I think that must be the problem, right? So explain the bug, because I witnessed the bug. But for those who don't know the bug. Well, the bug, as far as I understand it, or as far as what happens, is that while you're in multiball, you then restart multiball. So I'm in red line mania, you know, jackpots, 25 million, super jackpot, 100 million. And then I get the jackpot, right? No, that's not even what it is. I wasn't even in red line mania. The first time it happened, I was in regular multiball. I got to 25, right? Then I got to super for 50. You got 75. I got 75. And then multiball restarted again. Restarted. You went from two balls to three balls. And then Steve's there. Okay, it's the ball. How much is this? Is this going to be $100 or $25? Of course it's $25.
    4:43
    It's $25 million. So, like, okay. I was kind of glad that Zach came back and beat me by more than the 75 difference. At least I think it was Zach. Yeah, he did. Oh, yeah, he did. So I was like, good. Okay, fine. Okay.
    4:58
    But, yeah, this is when multiball starts when you have multiball. Uh-oh. You're going to get hurt. and so just keep playing through it until you maybe can come back and loop back around and get your super jackpot back to where it's supposed to be, but it's still going to be less anyway. But, yeah, but, you know, work through that a couple of times. And, I mean, the game plays well enough so that, you know, I can just keep shooting the left orbit and I knew the shot was true. But, you know, that's just how it works. When you run into the bug, just deal with it, I guess.
    5:29
    I believe there is a fix for that. There is. and the newest one in Soarin's ROM, which is what's running in mine. So I should not experience, would not experience that issue. I need that ROM version then. Okay. Hint, hint, wink, wink. Okay. Yeah, in round three, Steven was second, and then in round four, he was first and never gave up first for 16 more rounds.
    5:57
    So he crushed us all. So, yeah, when we got down to, like, I don't know, the second to last round, when I was looking at the foursomes, like, it didn't have, for the top group, it didn't have Steve as player one, like the first player. Yeah. So I wasn't sure if he was in first, and then I looked, and it's like, it's 20 points ahead. Yeah. This is, like, over. Yeah, it was. Yeah. We had 27 players. We had Steve was first.
    6:22
    Jerry Menard had a tiebreaker with our own Zach, and Jerry beat, they actually. We'll tell that story. That was good. Yeah, yeah. So we finish, to give a background, this went from 11.15 a.m. To 11.15 p.m. P.M. It was actually probably after that. So after all of that, Jerry and Zach are tied. So you used good old random org to select, and you get? Indiana Jones. Which I believe both players are very good at. Yes, and they both looked at me and said no. And I looked at them and go, what? And they looked at each other and went, stars. Wow. And they played a three-minute game of stars, which Jerry won. So he got second place. Zach got third. Some guy named Bruce Nango got fourth. Wow. His own game. What's going on? Yeah, well, I had to follow the Ron Hallett rule of stomp. Well, you didn't win. So you didn't follow the Ron Hallett rule. Fail. Yeah, but still, you know, doing pretty well. And then our own Bob Merlo, one of our locals up there, got fifth. Andy Cushman and Ron Hallett Jr. 6th and our own Eric Russell and Towley was 8th with Jason Plourd and Nick Lane rounding up the top 10 very good so let's go over our highlights and lowlights except Steve with no lowlights but I have lowlights Stars crushed me how dare it do that I think I was in that group right? I had two half balls and one flip up That was the game I won that game by basically forcefully backhanding the spinner once. That was the whole game. For like 60,000. And everybody else was plunge, house, plunge, bumper, house, plunge, out lane, plunge, miss the center in a post, out. So basically that one reaction shot where I basically just said, well, I'm just going to fling it at it and see if it goes through the spinner. And it did, harder than even a forehand would have. and that won the game. That killed me and Metallica killed me. I had Metallica pretty good and then everyone just came back on me and blew past me. Other than that, played pretty good while repairing machines.
    8:35
    Well, the thing I'll remember is me and Bruce were there early for our interview. Yes, we got interviewed. I walk in and literally the first thing Bruce does is he points at the attack from Mars and says, fix it, Ron. Because I was trying to get the car started to get ready and interviewed. So, you know, I looked up the play field, and I see he's got, well, actually, we got a new plunger link from Zach. I went to put it on. It was missing, what, the hairpin clip thing? The hairpin clip. I had to run down to the hardware store, which is, like, two minutes away, and I knew they would have it. Came back with the clip, popped that on. And after I put that back together, I'm looking at the left flipper, and it's like the EOS switch won't actuate because the actual actuator, if you will, is on the wrong side. Yeah, Zach, I gave Zach both actuator left and right because I didn't know which one was which. You know, I just don't look, so I just said, here's both. And he accidentally put the right-hand one instead of the left-hand one. Whoops. So I had to take it all apart, put the right one in. Yep. So, but that played well, I believe, the whole. Yep. The whole tournament. Not a brain fart. Yep. So I just remember I was okay at the beginning, and I kind of stuck in the middle. See, somebody brought in chocolate cookies. Yes. So I'll get an interview. Who brought that in? But, yeah. And Ron cannot resist such things. That's why he doesn't keep them around. So I ate, I don't know, 10 of them? 12. Yeah, probably. Jeez. 10, 12. And, yeah, then got a massive, like, sugar high and crash. And that was a total mistake on my part. Like, in the 24-hour tournament, I didn't do anything stupid like that. I just had granola bars and water.
    10:24
    So I was, yeah, I was feeling it. But then I drank a bunch of water and kind of started to recover near the end. What I remember is playing Dirty Harry the first time, getting over a billion and winning, and then playing it the next time, not even getting a multiball started and finishing fourth. Yes.
    10:45
    The awesome consistency. The effect of cookies. That's the effect of cookies. No, that was all after that. That was all after that. Yeah. Yeah, I can't. Yeah. I'm sorry. I can't blame the cookies for that. I don't know what happened. By that time, it might be time for some margaritas at that point. You were. You were actually hitting the margaritas by then. Yeah. They were mine. Thank you. Very good. After all that, I think the last two rounds I did decent. I won the last round. You won the last round, but the round before it was the Dirty Harry round. You got fourth. Oh, I did? Oh, thanks. Thanks, Bruce. I'm looking at your stats right now. But before that, you got a second, first, and first. Yeah, there you go. There you go. So that's how you were working your way back up. Yeah, so that kind of hurt me. I probably could have got top four. I probably actually could have got money. Well, you did get money for the last round. Yeah, that's true. Whoever won the game in the last round got a bounty. In their group. So the top three groups got $20. The middle three groups got $15. And the last group got $10. So everyone got money, whatever position you were finished in at the end of the tournament, but if you won that last group. Nice little bonus from me. And we had a bounty on one of the games. Like Ron and me like to have for Stomp. My bounty was Lord of the Rings, defeat the ring in 30 seconds.
    12:07
    And wouldn't you know it, the person on the podcast right now, 29.4 seconds defeated the ring. I'm like, this is happening. Let's go. Hurry up. Let's do this. Because by that time, I was pretty much, I had a decent lead. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to go for this. And he did. And I, hey, this felt good. This feels good. Wait for the tide. Yes. Because usually what happens that fast is when I shoot the ring, and the ball falls out of the ring and goes down the right orbit and counts that shot to get a head start. And it didn't happen that time. So I'm like, oh, this is not good. I'm going to have to really hoof it. And all of a sudden it was like, oh, that shot worked. Oh, Legolas Rant worked. Oh, right over worked. Oh, left Rant, oh, right Rant worked. Oh, the center shot worked. Hurry up, hurry up. You know?
    12:58
    I'm like, sweet. He did. Everyone's like, yeah, you got it. I'm like, I just put the bounty out like four games beforehand in the beginning of the tournament. And then by the, I think it was the fourth round you did it. Let's check. It's pretty early. Fifth round, fifth round, the fifth round.
    13:13
    And he took first in that also. And he played Jerry Bernard, Eric Russell, and Zach. So no lightweights either.
    13:21
    Powerhouse group on a Lord of the Rings game, which was set decently easy, I guess. Was it default settings? The posts were in? No, the posts were all out. The posts were out? All the way up. Man, it felt like they were all out. I was like, okay, I guess it felt all right, I guess, comparing to having to lower the rings with the rubbers off completely. Once I saw there were rubbers in the game, I was like, okay, we can play this a little bit. Yeah, and I have it set for medium hard, like the fourth level of hardness. Oh, my. It worked really well and only had a couple breakdowns, but Steve got it in 29.4 seconds, and he got the $30. Sweet. So Steve made out like a bandit this weekend. Oh, good, yeah. We won't mention totals because we don't want the IRS coming down on all of us. Yeah, exactly. But, hey, if the IRS does, I'm going to have to claim, like, gas mileage and hotels and expenses, and I might make out on it. I might actually come out on top. I might. A six-hour drive and, like, gas and hotel. 700 miles. Yeah, you win. Did you win the last round? No, I missed the last round by 100 million on AFM. Jerry won it. No extra 20. No extra 20 there. A couple of games, a couple of breakdowns, but everything got fixed. I'd say it went about as smooth as could be expected. Yeah, especially for 26 games. Yeah. Yeah, really, over 12 straight hours, just about. There was an hour break for food. Yeah, but I worked on two games during that hour break. I worked on Swords of Fury the spring broke for the upper diverter and I got that fixed and then I had a resetting problem on Dracula and I reseated all the connectors on the CPU board and the driver board and then they were hacking back again so that was a big fix what's the other thing you need Bruce tournament ROM for Dracula yeah because I saw at least one match you know 20 million 15 million another person like a million 250,000 yeah $500,000, yeah. $250,000. I can't even work. Yeah. Like, wow, outlaying bonus increase. Yes. I got the 3X out-hole bonus.
    15:37
    How's your out-hole doing? Yeah, exactly. And the stream, the stream was flawless. Yep. Had no issues with the stream, no dropped frames. I lowered the bit rate a little bit more this time. Seemed to do the trick. And half the time we didn't have it on the game. Yeah, yeah. That's the problem with this kind of format. We were really not following anyone. and it's the way the Silver Ball Saloon is arranged with the games, it's hard to move the rig around outside of the row that it's on. It's even harder now. Yeah, because then the wires would go across, and people could trip on them and, you know, watch stuff like that. So we had it, like, on Walking Dead. Then we had it on Mustang.
    16:20
    We had it on Mustang. Then we had it on, let's see, Elvis. Yeah. It's funny. We had it on Elvis. Then we had it on Attack from Mars. And then people got sick of that. So then it went back to Elvis. That was the funny part. It's like, we've had enough Elvis. Get it off of Elvis.
    16:40
    Even if people didn't want to watch Elvis. Yeah. The thing about Twitch, though, I don't understand. After the stream was done, I noticed yesterday that you can't watch it. Like, when you click on it, it just gives you a network error. It doesn't work with the app either. I have no idea why. It just doesn't work.
    17:01
    You can't watch it while it's uploading or while it's saving to your account or something? No, I mean, after the stream is done and you stop streaming, it's a VOD. It's a video on demand. It's right there. And you can't watch the VOD. The funny thing is if you click on it, like the preview picture will show the video, like moving, like it's fine. And when you click on it, it just doesn't work. I don't know why.
    17:27
    So, what I did, it's like, no problem, because I'll just put it up on YouTube. You missed the chat, which kind of sucks, but you will get everything else. So, I uploaded it Sunday night, and it finished uploading and was doing the processing thing. When I went to check it the next morning, the video was not editable, and it told me, video removed, because it's too long. and it's like now i'm really pissed because okay if the video is too long number one why did you let me upload it now you can argue it doesn't know the length of the video possibly for whatever reason okay it's fine if you're going to give me an error and tell me that it's too long what piece of information should be in the air yeah what's the limit no it just says video is too long So I had to go under the YouTube help and found out. Guess what the maximum length of the video can be? Ten hours. No. Three. No, no, no. Because we've had over ten hour ones up there. No. Remember, it's the 12 hours of stomp. The video is 12 hours and 47 minutes. So guess what? 12 hours? 12 hours. 12 hours? Yes. I was going to say 11 hours and 59 minutes. It's 12 hours. Now, I uploaded it, and actually it's now processing as I'm looking at it, and this better frigging work or I'm going to be pissed.
    18:47
    Yeah, that was the stream. We had a lot of really fun stuff going on in the commentary. We had lots of – we had actual Beavis and Butthead were there for a little while. Nice. We had Pinside Petey showed up. Yeah, Pinside Petey and his brother. I never knew he had a brother. Paul.
    19:07
    Pinside Pauly. Then we got to listen to Zach's incorrect views on games Oh no, what was his views? I don't know, all his views are incorrect Wow I got to listen to him arguing with Jeff Teolis on Star Wars and Jeff Teolis like it's a piece of crap and Zach, no, it's Stern's best game in 10 years so you know It was entertaining So hopefully you'll all get to hear that if this stupid thing processes correctly Steve even laughed at that one, Zach I like that But Iron Maiden's sitting there like, what, excuse me? I know. What did you say?
    19:48
    But to me, one of the highlights of Stop was a surprise. Yeah. That we were able to pull off, and Bruce did not suspect, I have to say. We got him good. Yes, you did. And that was? I look up and I turn around like we're just getting ready to go, and there's this 4'11 person right next to me. Miss Steph, the pinball princess, had a ride with the boys, which was very cool. I was very happy, and she gave me a big hug, and it was good to have her there, and I love her, and she's a sweetheart. Thank you for coming out, Miss Steph, the pinball princess. And that plan was hatched at Pintastic. Oh, my. It was me, Zach Steph, and Zach's dad, whose name is also Ron, which I didn't realize until recently. So I just call him Zach's dad because it's easier. And we were, it was right after we were finished playing the pin golf.
    20:44
    And Steve will remember where that room was. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We finished that and we go back into the free play room. And we're talking about stop. And pretty much everything we said was true. I mean, Steph, it's a long drive. She's got a new apartment, stuff to do. You know, things are tight, et cetera. So I just bring up the fact, well, Steph, you're not that far from me. and I'm leaving Friday after work. Just throwing it out there, you know. Zach and Steph started playing firepower. I'm there like, I'm going to go and get a soda. And I went around the hotel realizing every vending machine did not have soda in it or anything else because they were all empty at that point. I then went back and the time it took for me to do that, Zach must have worked on it a little more because the first thing she asked me is, about what time do you leave work on Friday? So arrangements were made I give her all the credit in the world Because she's always chronically late The best case scenario was Her arriving at 6.30 She arrived at 6.45 Which was almost like arriving early And JT was early Oh god yes JT was actually early To the tournament And the Orange County people will know that's amazing Steph might show up Like 10 minutes late to the beginning of the tournament. JT, he will show up like two rounds late. Oh, God. To make this plan work, I had to change some things up. I think I said this during the podcast, or maybe I didn't. I told Bruce how I was getting out of work later, which was actually true.
    22:23
    And that I was going to go to Zach's house because I wanted to play some Alien Star, which is true. And you wanted to play Gamertron. Yeah. And I might be staying over there.
    22:33
    So that's how we covered all that. And the cool thing is when Steph and Zach arrived, Zach just came in alone by himself first. He was there for a good five minutes before she snuck in.
    22:46
    Plan accomplished. And our interview went very well, too. What did you think, Ron? Yeah, I guess so.
    22:56
    Wait till we see the finished product. Whenever that will be. Yes, I'm very excited about that, but we were very lucky to be included in this documentary. We'll probably be on there, what do you think, 15, 20 seconds maybe? Probably. Probably a few more because you did Voices. No, that'll all be cut. You know, rights issues. Oh, no. I got to sign a release. That was cool. I do agree. I liked it too, signing a release. That was really neat. Even the releases are electronic now, just like on an iPad. Yeah.
    23:30
    Steve. Yes? Get any new jobs lately? Maybe. I may have done that. I may have taken on some new responsibilities in my life, sort of a life change that's coming up. So, yeah. Moving down south, moving down south. To the heat, to the heat. To the south side? Yeah, to the heat. To the south side. as hot as all heck. Oh my God. It's going to be hot times. No more snow. Steve is going to Deep Root Pinball. He is. Congratulations, Steve. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. And I guess right, I figured while you were at the Texas Pinball Festival, you probably went for the interview. And I was correct.
    24:28
    Okay. So now when you see these pinball players, if I remember, Keith Owen, he had his interview when he went to Expo for the tournament. So when you see these top players showing up at tournaments now, it might not be just for the tournament.
    24:41
    The same. So you will be the ambassador? It's rules designer, but the pinball ambassador part is sort of there also as a thing to recognize that I will be continuing certain charity work and, you know, especially Path of Play and Project Pinball and, you know, and also representing the company. So, I mean, it sounds like a hoity-toity thing, you know, pinball investor, whatever. But, yeah, I wanted to make sure that was there so that they, you know, I'm going to continue to be working with, especially Path of Play and Project Pinball. Those are two charities that I'm really involved in and I really didn't want to be affected by this. So not only is it not going to be affected badly by this, it's going to be in a positive way. So that will just come up later. But, you know, just saying that in my ambassadorship, you know, I guess it's already sort of started, right? I mean, do we want to get into that now? Sure. We can get into that now. And the craziness that's happening. So what we didn't realize is Steve was practicing with the 12 Hours of Stuff. He was getting prepared for the next weekend, which is going to be July 14th. What are you going to be doing on July 14th, Steve? All right. On July 14th, starting at 10 a.m. Eastern time, I will be introducing the Pinberg Tournament Banks. All of it. Live.
    26:20
    All of it. As in? All of it, as in all of the banks, as in all 72 times 4 equals 288 games of pinball.
    26:32
    All of it. Are you feeling all right, man? This is one of those crazy ideas that comes together, you know? And so the challenge is there. Once I saw it posted, I was at stop when it was posted. So, of course, Teolis comes up to me and he's like, are you really going to go and play all the games at Pinberg and so I not knowing it posted already because i in you know tournament mode and quality and you know concentrating on that so it supposed to be a surprise what do you how do you know already it oh it posted so once it posted it like okay this is real so i'm really gonna do this so yeah it's the pinberg bank reveal sponsored by deep root pinball and uh yeah so this is happening so starting at 10 a.m we're gonna reveal the Denver Banks and the Papa team, you know, with all the great people and myself. I'm going to go to Papa, and I'm going to go through all the banks, and we will see what happens. Join me in the chat room and watch me slowly go insane, maybe. Are you going to use, like, a GoPro or something? I'm trying to think how they're going to do that. I don't know. I'll find out when I get there. But, yeah, I'll see what happens. But, you know, all of you out there, come to the chat and keep me company and learn about all the games that are in there and see how poorly I play them after about hour eight or nine.
    27:57
    See, Papa stole our idea. Again, everyone's stealing our ideas. They did. They stole our ideas. See? Because if you remember, last year we had a podcast where Steve, we went through, actually, we had someone else with Steve. Didn't we? We had Tim Balls. Tim Balls, yeah. Tim Balls and Steve, which, wait a minute. We had Tim Balls and Steve, and now one's for Stern and one's for Deep Root. Wow. It's amazing. When you're on this podcast, you get hired by pinball companies. That's all I'm saying. That's right. So not only do other people start podcasts based on this, other people go to pinball companies based on Flansville. Where the fuck's my job? Oh, God. What would Bruce's job be?
    28:39
    What? Come on, Bruce. What would be your position? I want to know that. Public relations. Customer service. Yeah, customer service. Quit tilting my game, asshole.
    28:54
    Oh, man. No, it's not going that way. Stop. We had Tim and Steve on. We did, I think it was like a three-hour thing where he went through all the banks. Oh, yeah, it was gigantic. We picked our favorites, our least favorites, our highlights, lowlights, everything. So now, Pomp is stealing our idea and taking it to the next level. You have to say that, Bruce. People steal our ideas, but then they make them better. Yeah, of course. It's kind of like, you know, my friend Chris always says, it's not who invents it, it's who perfects it.
    29:24
    Dead silence. So we haven't perfected anything, obviously. Let us hang there. We got screwed again. Again. And again. Well, at least I know that's actually cool. So I will have that probably on the TV during our little OCPC event. Right. I better see something on the chat. At least an OCPC account will show up in there. I'm sure we'll have stuff on the chat. I'll put them in there. Go on, Steph. Yeah, because I'll have the laptop there for the match play stuff. Nice. I'll go right over to the stream. I got the TV set up. Yeah, I guess I'm going to need people's emotional support about our, I don't know. It's like, what's that saying nonsense about nothing? It'll be like hour 12, and now you get to play Super Orbit. Not even. It'll be like hour 12, and it'll be like, and now presenting El Toro. What? Oh, no. Check, please.
    30:31
    And where can we view this? I assume Papa TV. Papa TV? Yeah, it's going to be on Papa TV, YouTube channel. YouTube, folks. Remember, YouTube. Everyone always looks for it on Twitch. It's not on Twitch. It's on YouTube. Although I think they do have a Twitch channel also. They do. Yeah, but they've been using the YouTube channel. If you want to go to the YouTube channel, let me repeat that one more time. The YouTube channel. Because every time I see it in the forum, it's, I can't find it. It's on YouTube. Why are they using YouTube? It's like, it's on YouTube. Just use YouTube, please. So being that you're at Deep Root now Are we guaranteed to see cool bonus meltdowns On the Deep Root games Are you going to insist on that I need it Yeah We have to do something with that Steve puts a thing where You can't hit the flipper buttons to skip past the bonus You have to You'll be able to skip it I wouldn't do that to you That's not cool Just like we'll make sure not to have maybe as blinding any of lights, maybe I'll work on that. You know, have the sunglasses test. If I can play this without sunglasses, then okay, we're good. And Steve, my initials are B-E-N. Remember that. Oh, yeah. Okay.
    31:49
    Get Ron's, get Bruce's. Yep, there you go. Or you can just put STP for Slant Hill Podcast. That would cover both of us. That'd be really cool. Right, that'd be good. Get stuff in there. There you go. that'd be pretty damn cool does this mean now that you're there that you can't appear on podcasts anymore well not necessarily I mean you know certain public appearances may have to be approved in advance but you know we don't usually crush our luck with guests you know with asking them about what they're doing at the current times that's fine I think that would be fine we've proven that with Ethan you know that's why we respect, guess what, we want you to have a job yeah, that's cool I think everyone pretty much knows that the Slam Tilt Podcast is a respectable forum for people to come on and talk about pinball, no matter where they may be employed respectable forum, the word respectable I never thought I'd hear that Oh, my. I'm honored. Oh, my. Respectable. The show that starts off with Beavis and Butthead. It's George Takei saying, oh, my. And our theme song is Steel Panther. But we're the respectable ones.
    33:08
    I love it. Love it. With the trip this weekend, Ron came over to house to pick up Quicksilver. Yes, I did.
    33:17
    Quicksilver. You had a question about that? Oh, okay. Quick question. Which is the flipper that had the issue, the flipper bat, right or left? Which one do you think? The left. Wrong. Okay.
    33:31
    Was the left flipper bat replaced at some point? No, I don't think so. Really? I'm going to have to look back at footage because the left flipper bat is larger than the right flipper bat. Hey, now, that sounds like a personal point. Yeah, it looks like it's swollen. Hold on. I mean, neither of them are the stern flipper bats, but the one on the right is narrower than the one on the left. Notice me. And it's causing, like, it's noticeable when you play.
    34:00
    And I don't remember that from last time. And the other thing, it has the new flipper base plates in it? Yes, it does. So I've got to double check. I think I have that same issue with the tab that the flipper link rests on is not in the right spot, so I'm getting too much flipper travel. Yeah, that is a problem. Because on that quick silver, I mean, it's so fast, you should be able to, when it's screaming down the in lane, you should be able to hold the flipper up and it should do a flipper pass right over to the other one, and that's how it should play. I agree. In my view, which is the only view that counts. We're very happy that it's back. Oh, I'm very happy that it's back, yes. Boot it up all nice and everything. Excellent. Don't forget, once in a while it does reboot. Well, that's going to be a problem if it's using the tournament, Bruce. No, all it does is reboot once, and it's never during game. It only reboots sitting idle. Okay, you heard that, folks. So when we talk about that next week, let's say I'll reboot it like six times. We don't want any flash situations. No, no, we don't want that. There's a callback. Yeah. Not many people might remember that one, but, yeah, that's a callback. Yeah, well, also remember I said I took it to the Saratoga show, and it sat there getting pounded for the entire day and never locked up once. Even in a low-power situation, which it was in, it didn't lock up.
    35:23
    So, Franken-Cheetah, Ron got to see the two cheetahs. Yes, and we were both in agreement. Yes. Basically, the head on one is terrible and the body's good. Yep. And the other one's the body's terrible and the head is good. So guess what's going to happen? I'm going to have a black head on a blue body cheetah. Black and blue cheetah. Nice. A franken cheetah will be... I've already pulled out the play field out of the blue cabinet, the one that was the wasted play field. And eventually I'm going to take parts off for Ron, because Ron needs me again. Yep, I need the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Well, actually I only need like 1, 4, and 5 or something. I'll have to see what numbers I need. and he needs flipper bats for something else. For Quicksilver, I was going to put them on. Yep, and then he needs the pop bumper skirt. Not skirt, but the pop bumper ring. Oh, yeah. That's right. I forgot about that. They have the plastic ones. Yes, see? So we're going to take a lot of parts off this. Yeah, we can bring Quicksilver back to total awesomeness. And I'll still have one more extra flipper and two extra plastic pop bumper rings. Yes, you will. And more drop targets and more drop target assemblies and parts.
    36:38
    And some extra plastics, but I'm going to try to start working on... So the playfield's out of the old, the blue body. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to pull the playfield out of the black cabinet and put it into the blue. And then power it up and see if I can get power to the rectifier board. The power distribution... What would you call that board? That's the rectifier, right? The one in the bottom of the cabinet is the rectifier board. Yep. I'm going to do that. I want to make sure I have all my proper voltages there first, make sure the fuses are right since this is a many-year game. I have to order more parts. I ordered parts from Marco today, and then I realized, oh, my shooter rod is completely rusted solid.
    37:17
    Oh, my. So I've got to get that, and I'll get the new beehive for this shooter and go from there. Now, when I first saw that picture with the two cheetahs next to each other, I mean, of course, I'm a little disappointed to hear that you have to do the Franken-shooter process on it, because the first thing I thought of was, okay, when are we going to have that versus battle, the heads-up, with the similar games that you have? Don't you have, like, copies of the same game? Oh, my God, there's so many. Big Game, Dragon's Fist, Nineball, Stars, the all-classic. The only problem with that is they almost always are going to play a little differently. Well, of course. That makes Game 4s really important. Spider-Man. Oh, yeah, Spider-Man. Getaway Dirty Harry Demoman That's like 10 games already I know They supported how much at the Heads Up Championship In Chicago was like 3 games 4 games We got 10 we can be world famous You could have like a Super 64 Or something like that You could have like So what I hear is Steve is volunteering To help us carry the games and bring them there. No, no. I don't think so. Or find a location where we put all this stuff. Yeah, that's what we need. Yeah. We need a location big enough to have all the games in a round or something and then, you know, at the center. That Saratoga Pimp Box Club show is coming up soon. I don't know if they have enough room. I'm just kidding. But it is just like the gym of a YMCA is where it is.
    38:56
    YMCA. All right. Are we ready for news? Nope, not yet. Oh. We're still talking about Saratoga. Oh. Well, no. I thought we were going to talk about that later. I was talking about the glass that you ordered and I ordered today.
    39:10
    What glass, Bruce? There's no background to this story. You're confusing our listeners again. Okay. I'm going to say it right then and there. There's this show called the Saratoga Pinball Show. Yep. And it's going to be on August. Let's see. It's August 11th. Actually, it's in 11th. They're doing two days this year. Last year was just the Saturday.
    39:32
    And I noticed I saw a post where they were going to sell glass there. Or you could buy glass and pick it up there. I'm like, oh, okay. And I figured I'm going to see usual. It's just going to be standard or wide body. Wide body meaning like Twilight Zone, Star Trek Next Gen, Demoman. That's what you normally see. But to my surprise, there's this big drop-down menu and I see like all kinds of different glass, including stern wide-body glass. Mm-hmm. I then pumped my fist, and I bought two sheets. And so did Bruce. Yeah, who's going to pick those up for you? You. I am? Hey, you're strong. Well, I think Zach would make more sense being he lives in Rochester and could bring them back to you. I'll see you eventually. I'll see you on the 25th. You'll see me on the 25th. That is true. See? Bruce ain't dumb. So, Bruce, what's happening the 25th? It will be Stomp 2 Pinball Boogaloo.
    40:37
    So, basically the same match play format as last year. We've got to get some details ironed out. But expect more of the same. It is the weekend after Buffalo. Hopefully it doesn't hurt too bad. Hopefully people are still always up for more tournament pinball. And you get to go to level zero. The famous level zero arcade. We'll make sure it's colder this year and not as hot. And there's more room. Hopefully you'll have some chairs upstairs so it's not quite as crowded as it was, depending on how many people we get. Because I've already had at least one inquiry, like asking where they could send the money. Like, where do they sign up? Oh, my God, really? Well, there will be one extra game there. Mm-hmm. My stars. we are going to have a head-to-head. Oh, my. Okay. Where are we putting those?
    41:28
    That's logistics. No! Good Lord, where are we putting those, Bruce? You are killing stars out. Oh, my. And we can figure out, put two together. That's all. I guess if I move. But, see, the problem is you're going to have less room.
    41:49
    I don't know. stars in the middle yeah it's pretty much going to have to go in the middle or the couch is going to have to temporarily you know get moved off to the side that would actually make the most sense because there's an outlet there and you could put them right next to each other in their own dedicated little section and it wouldn't be in the middle of the room Ron I have one bad piece of news for you though oh god okay you need another camera oh what we're supposed to film all this people are going to want to see head to head stars How am I going to show? I don't have the facilities to do all that. I only have one laptop. I can bring one. I'll let IT do the rest. Stop. We're starting with that shit again. Sorry, that shit again.
    42:34
    Oh, God. The problem isn't actually the cameras. The problem isn't the cameras. I could always buy another 922, the 60-frame one, and I could use it in the same laptop. That's not a problem. The problem is going to be the rig. You know, getting a rig. You know, I've got to get a rig for both of those. And it depends how much you want to film. I mean, everyone's going to want the player cam. Agree. So I don't know how I'm going to do all that. You've got six weeks. Get working. Yeah, okay, Bruce. I'll get right on that. Yeah, you've got to find the Carl D'Angelo OBS template. Yeah, yeah. There you go. Carl, I know you listen. Help me. How can I do this? I don't want to spend a ton of money here maybe buy one more camera I have a laptop that has like four USB inputs that's the only issue is then I don't have the sound input I can use the mics off of the cameras but that will kind of suck you can use the USB you can get a USB hub oh yeah okay wait wait wait wait wait wait and we need a green screen also so we have a Jeff Teolas there stop it and you only got six weeks for this so you better get start working plus you lose a week because of pinberg so you really gotta get no no no probably have one camera just put it up high enough and try to get both play fields in you don't want to do that you want to do my angle like i was doing in chicago i was basically just standing in the middle and holding the holding my phone up as high as i could and calling and silently calling the match and pointing to people who was ahead Like, she's ahead, now he's ahead. No, he's ahead, now she's ahead.
    44:15
    It's not even saying it, it's pointing to it. Because you don't want to say anything, because then you'll give it clearly to the other person. So it's just pointing to the person who's leading.
    44:25
    So I think the stream is going to be you, Bruce, doing Facebook Live just on your phone. That will be the coverage. That will not be accessible to all of our masses. So we need to get our 12 people on Twitch will not be happy. Yeah, our 12 people on Twitch will not. Well, we got up to at least 23. If we actually plug head-to-head stars, you know we might even get the 30.
    44:53
    If we plug head-to-head stars, though, that guarantees we'll max out the tournament. Oh, definitely. Definitely. I mean, that's a guarantee max out right there. I guarantee it. That's why we're doing it, baby. Yeah, people will come from all around and get devastated by stars. Really well. And what are the challenges going to be? Well, get the $100,000 special, whatever.
    45:16
    That's one. And get the triple bonus. Okay, there you go. Max, I mean, maybe max the bonus, but that would be like a shat fest, so probably not that. So you got two right there. You need at least what? You need three. Oh, you need three. So we need a third one. Get the 7,000 target. Both 7,000 targets lit.
    45:36
    What are both 7,000 targets? Wow. So you have to hit the left and right ones and leave the 7,000 up. Yes. Like have them both up at the same time? Yes. That would be really – or just one. Get one. How about that? Get one and then collect it. What are you talking about? What targets? In the middle. In order to get the 7,000 bonus, you have to hit the left and the right and then leave the middle one. Yes, and then you hit the middle one and then it goes – it does a different chime. Are you talking about the spinner? No. No, the target.
    46:06
    Ron is bad with rules, isn't he? Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about. I mean, I know the thing with the drop targets where if you leave, or if either you get the center one, yeah, you get the center ones, this increases the spinner value. Yeah, no, but if you actually get the left and the right drop target in either bank, and you leave the middle one, there's an arrow pointing to the middle target saying, and it'll light up, and it will say 7,000 points. and then you take that target down, and it does a little different chime tone for 7,000 points.
    46:38
    I did not know this. All right. Great sound, actually, comes out of it. Who the hell ever goes for that? When does that ever happen? No one's ever. You're just trying to live. But that's what? That's a challenge. If it's a challenge, no one will hit in five balls. Oh, you'd be surprised. Yeah, I would be. I'd be very surprised. You'd have accuracy. All right. You'd have to stop that ball, which is hard to do enough on stars. and you've got to catch it again and catch it for the third time to cave down. There'll be so many house falls on that game. There'll be people just killing each other. There'll be just mass hysteria. Doesn't get it to happen once. It'll be so fucking laughable. I'd love to do it every time. And whoever's officiating that, we'll have to watch it like a hawk because it'll be so quick. You can hear it. Yeah.
    47:23
    That's the good thing about it. You'd hear it a different time because it does have a different scoring time. So that will be Top 2 Pinball Boogaloo Yes it will be August 25th More details coming soon Coming soon to a theater near you It's time for a piece of news Bruce News of the week Did you know I got denied From being a host on the Head to Head podcast What do you mean you got denied Yeah I heard the denial on a later episode Yep I got denied He auditioned or I asked to be on the show, and they want to keep it Australian. Oh, you're talking about the angle you were doing where you were interviewing for Ryan C's job? Yes, I got discriminated against because they want to keep it all Australian. Okay.
    48:13
    Oh, man. They invited us to become part of the Head to Head slash Slam Tilt podcast group for the TTI. And I know you said you didn't want to be that, Ron. Wait a minute. And so because we can't get in, we have to join up with them? Yes. You know, I have it on good authority. Uh-oh. What do you mean, good authority? Good authority that certain events have occurred.
    48:38
    Okay. And by the time that this episode airs, we will already have been invited to the TGO. Do you believe in miracles? Yes!
    48:51
    I know. That's all the videos we're being posted for. all the videos on Facebook from the Trash Talker committee.
    49:01
    Pigs flying, etc. The outlast. What the hell did that mean? Outlast. Outlast and backlash. Okay, we got our title. Very good. There you go. Holy crap. Outlast. Outlast is great. I like that. That sounds like a metal band or something. Coming to the Mid-Hudson Civic Center, Outlash with Warren. Outlash. And with the echo.
    49:31
    Outlash. Do you know, Bruce, that Outlash stole everything from Kiss? Yes. Okay. Mr. Klein, sorry.
    49:40
    Please call me Gene. Or Gene. I am. I am for life. Gene. Okay. Go to KissOutlash.com.
    49:52
    So, yes, an ultimatum was made, and the trash talker committee and Chuck Webster had to put their tail between their legs and invite us. Nice. So now we need a third person. We need a ringer. And who else besides the person on this podcast? Woo-hoo! Nobody. Steve Bowden is our ringer. I'm in! Woo-hoo! Yeah! Yeah.
    50:22
    He's been our number one ringer since day one of the discussions of TTI. Yep. Very happy to finally be officially be invited to the tournament.
    50:34
    And to think that I had started the meltdown to be a part of, to get in for the TTI. Nope. I was already ringing. You were ringing. We just had to get invited. Now that we're invited, you're in. how's your trash fucking skills not very well admittedly I could talk about all the mistakes that the person is making as they make them though that's pretty bad that would be all like rule based mistakes yeah it's like don't shoot that no don't chase that you don't chase the iron monger when he's already no don't it's already off the light's already on You've got to do it more like, obviously this player doesn't know about so-and-so. Obviously this player's never played this mode before. Wow, I don't understand that decision. It's like the grace period is clearly over by now. Clearly. Oh, speaking of stomp, speaking of stomp. Final round, I got Iron Man. Yeah. I got Jericho. Wow, geez. All right. I was very happy about that. Congratulations, Jericho man. Yes, Jericho man. During for $20. I was striving for that $20. You know who trash talks constantly when I play him?
    51:52
    No, not you, Bruce. Besides you. Zach. He does. He's very good at it. Very intellectual type of trash talking. Kind of along the lines I just said. Clearly this player doesn't understand the rule set. Yeah. Zach was trying something with me. It was like time to get revenge on Getaway. And I was like, for what? Because I took his grand champion score at one point. and at that point I was like ahead by I think 10 over everyone I was like man whatever I don't care it was like fine okay I'll take another second you know just disarm him or something and I forget what round that was but you know yeah whatever so did you know the Beatles are coming in January what? the Beatles? aren't they dead? No, two of them are, Bruce. Come on. Oh. Maybe by January, maybe three or four. You never know. Wow.
    52:52
    Wow. You know, Bruce, even I find that offensive. Because you're going to be next too, Gene. No, I'm going to live forever. I'm Gene Simmons. The demon will live far beyond me. Go to kissbeetles.com for merchandise. Well, no, no. The Beatles stole everything from Kiss. Right. So, yes, that's the rumor.
    53:17
    Joe Cam and Cal was on head-to-head, and you learn interesting facts, like the name of Roger Sharp's game for game plan was Cyclone. I always thought it was Cyclops, but according to Joe, it was Cyclone. Did anyone catch that?
    53:35
    I missed that. I was definitely listening to this on the way back on Sunday, and we both heard that. She there like wasn it Cyclops Like yeah I pretty sure it was Cyclops not Cyclone Someone going to say no he said Cyclops I pretty sure he said Cyclone because we both heard it
    53:54
    He also said that, you know, Williams went the wrong way with Pinball 2000. That's why they went out of business. He had a lot of interesting version of history. I guess it's from his side. Yeah, he was really all over the place. Yeah. Basically, he said Pinball was easy and then how it was hard. I was kind of confused there. But he also said his big license is coming in January.
    54:19
    It's going to blow everyone away. It's something you never thought you were going to see. And I'm guessing it has to be the Beatles, right? And then not like a couple minutes later, he mentions the whole carpool karaoke thing when Paul McCartney was on it. Yeah.
    54:34
    Okay. Is this like just trying to like throw us off the track or something by being that obvious? Maybe he's trying for the monkeys. The monkeys. No.
    54:46
    The monkeys. No. Actually, there already was a Beatles game, right? Yes, there was. Beat Time? Beat Time with the boodle? The boodle. Yes. Yeah.
    54:56
    All right. Chicago Gaming Company, game number three, rumored feature. I haven't listened to the Head to Head podcast yet, so I don't know what this rumored feature is. Do you know what it is, Bruce? Have you heard? They didn't say it. Oh, they didn't say it? Zach said it originally from This Week in Pinball that he knew what it was, but he was the only one that knew. Then Ryan found out and wasn't going to give the information to anybody because he wanted people to be surprised. That was it. So nobody knows. Nobody knows out there except for two people. But wait a minute. The Head to Head podcast, the one they just released today, says in a big surprise, like in the title. I didn't get to that yet. Oh. Okay. So sorry, folks. They probably said what it was, but we don't know because we haven't listened to it yet. Do you have any ideas? It's Monster Bash, obviously, and supposedly this surprise is what's causing the delay. So what do you think they're doing? A large Attack from Mars screen with better graphics. That was probably already in the, you know, being they had in the last one. Yeah, I don't know. I'll try that, yeah. Okay, Bruce, what's your idea? I don't know.
    56:01
    Interactive holograms. Who knows? Interactive holograms? Okay. Okay, I have an idea. Who the hell knows? I have an idea. Okay, what's your idea? What was, well, first, wasn't it originally supposed to be like a jump ramp in front of Frankenstein to hit him?
    56:17
    Oh, like, almost like Transformers. Like it hit him in the head or something like that, and it was pulled. But then there was also, in the original design, when Frankenstein comes up, there was supposed to, there's like, I think there's a figurine next to him of like Igor or whatever the hell it is. Igor. Yeah, Igor, yes. He was supposed to actually move, like crank the thing, like he's cranking him up in position,
    56:42
    and that was scrapped. I'm going to say they're adding that back in. That's my theory. What do you think?
    56:50
    That could work. Well, that would take some time. Yeah. Because that was in Gomez's original drawings he did, was that figurine was actually supposed to, like he was supposed to turn a crank thing when he went up. That was supposed to be the effect.
    57:03
    So we'll see. All opinions from Ron Hallett are not the true opinions yet known. Not the true opinions yet known. There is a title. Yeah, that might be another title. What the hell does that mean?
    57:18
    I'm so glad to have regular Bruce back. This is so much more fun. Yeah, he is obviously awake. He's in full Bruce-ism mode here. Didn't you pull out a few Bruce-isms as you were starting the tournament, like in your opening speech?
    57:32
    I think you did. I think he did because people were like, man, already with the Bruce Ismonds. And I don't even remember what they were.
    57:38
    A new pinball podcast was announced last week, the Special Winlet Pinball Podcast. So we have another pinball podcast. Looks like they're going to do weekly also. And they had Dwight Sullivan on.
    57:50
    Blinded by the light. Where he said, let's see, what is his top three games that he did are Star Trek Next Generation, see, screw all you haters out there that said I kept the wrong Star Trek. I still love Next Gen. Game of Thrones and Star Wars.
    58:15
    Dead silence. Not Ghostbusters. No, no, he didn't have Ghostbusters. He didn't put that in there. He thinks they made it too hard.
    58:24
    But you can check that out for his interview. And there's this other item about Pinberg Banks will be revealed with Steve Bowden. Right, yep. Who the hell would do this? This is crazy. Between 12 and 20 hours? A crazy person. Oh, man. I think, I guess. I guess it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, that's a good idea, and then it gets close to the date, and it's like, wait a minute.
    58:51
    What the hell are you doing there, Bobby? Wait a minute. It's like, wait a minute, boy. You're going to need some propane on yourself after this or something like that. Yeah, boy. You know, it's kind of like when I do the stair climb, and I'm like halfway up, and I'm almost dead. And I'm like, what the hell did I do this for? You got to finish. And then by the end, I'm like almost totally dead. And then it's like, yep, still doing it next year. But just remember to watch the insanity on the Papa YouTube channel. That's YouTube. And if you go to thisweekinpinball.com, hi, Jeff, it's got the link right on there. Hi, Jeff.
    59:24
    Pat for Play and Replay FX announced a partnership. So the Replant Foundation promotes the preservation, restoration, enjoyment of gaming technology with an emphasis on the player experience Path to Play is a Canadian-based humanitarian project that serves families living with autism through a variety of subsidy and gaming programs, which Steve is very familiar with Very, very much familiar with I took a trip to Toronto to participate in the Path to Play Day that recently happened not too long ago where we raised money for this effort, and it was definitely an awesome event. And so, I mean, this is huge. This is very good to see Path of Play and Replay Foundation really working with each other to not only, you know, to really improve each other. I mean, you've seen how Mike Primo's improvements on the tournament coverage have been thus far. I mean, so, and if you've seen Path of Play charity, you've seen how much the Replay Foundation and the Papa Crew have been involved in that effort. So, I mean, this is a partnership that has been happening, so I guess this isn't official, but, I mean, you can see they've been really working with each other to do great things for the pinball community, and I'm looking forward to see what else they come up with.
    60:49
    And I did some screening for Path of Play. That's when I realized I had my Path of Place shirt, and it's kind of cold in the basement because I did it. It was actually during the winter, I believe. It was really cold. So I had the bright idea of putting the shirt on over my sweater and realized that didn't work very well. It's kind of tight. Kind of tight. So let's see. We have New Hobbit Code, which we talked about last week briefly.
    61:14
    There's going to be a stream. Oh, they already live streamed it. They had to stream, yeah. So what do you think about it? there and back again is going to be in it so you got to complete all the modes in order to get to it so that makes sense you know there's 31 modes but yeah but some modes are like one shot so that's okay but you know but yeah that does make sense so at least that completes that loop I mean there's something to work through all the hunting co modes to get to so that's huge definitely look at the details there's definitely some other I guess you called Fixing Updates with the Beast Mode and how you use the ring is better. How you use the ring button, rather, is better. I hope that's what everybody was waiting for who has the Hobbit. I mean, I'm sure it's been talked about so much that not everybody was going to be satisfied. I mean, that's kind of impossible. That is impossible. Yeah, but they've got a lot of stuff in it. So let's see if it does satisfy most people. That was my funniest edit last week. is I mentioned the Hobbit code, and then I went on a thing about pirates. Like it was talking about, and I realized when I was listening to it, when I was editing, like, why the hell am I talking about pirates? I thought it was like new pirates code, not new Hobbit code, even though I said new Hobbit code. It all melds together. Everything is one big regime. The power of editing, folks, as I mentioned it again. Maybe I'll edit that out. Maybe not.
    62:43
    Exclusive Buffalo Pinball. We'll have Barry Osler, your future co-worker, Steve, in chat for Doctor Who. On the front page. On the front page of Twitch. Yeah. And they were streaming right as they started at 8. So they were actually streaming right before this podcast. And I was watching it. And it's like, they got like 2,000 people watching. How is that possible? And then I remembered. It's like, oh, that's right. They're supposed to be on the front page. Right. The front page. So you get people by osmosis. Yep. Which is good. Yep. No. It was because I saw them just as it started. It was like 20, 100, 400, 700. Like, whoa, that's way more than they usually get. What the hell's going on? So hopefully people enjoy watching Doctor Who. Mm-hmm. What is it, Daleks, according to Ryan C.? It is Daleks. Okay. Actually, I think it's Daleks. Or is it Daleks? No, it is Daleks. Yeah, it is Daleks. He called them Daleks. The call-out says Daleks, doesn't it? Yep. Terminate! It's terminate!
    63:47
    Rumors about the Bally Williams Digital Recreations License, which is, I guess there was a Facebook thread where the owner of VP Cabs kind of chimed in, saying there's a plan for the rights.
    64:02
    I don't know if that means maybe the games are going to be on VP Cabs. I don't know. Did you see this, Bruce? No, I saw a little bit of it, but I just skimmed over it because... I was too busy working. Oh, okay. Good job. Podcast duties, keeping track of the news. So read it right now. So you're reading it during the podcast to bore our listeners and force me to edit it out. No, you can read it right now, and then we can start again. I'm not reading the whole damn thread. It was just a thread where people were saying, oh, it sucks that Pinball Arcade doesn't have it anymore. It's scientific games. The ones who are actually only going to do anything with it. And then Brad Baker, who is the owner of VP Caps, he chimed in and said, there is a plan. So everyone took that to mean, is VV Cabs getting the license?
    64:49
    So, who knows? Who knows? Good old rumor mill. Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle has arrived at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So was that the number one? I think it was. Okay, so, wait, be thankful. Number one, Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle is now at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio. So check it out. And there's a good comment on here at the end. Now that LeBron James left for L.A., folks at Cleveland should have more time for pinball. Wow.
    65:19
    Snap. Wow. Yeah, that's an old snap. Didn't those guys turn down the trash talker or something like that? They should be in the trash talker. Oh, man. HomePin announced that, yeah, there's going to be delays with their game. What's their game called again? Thunderbirds? Thunderbirds, yeah, because it's being made in China, and the government is forcing all factories out of the city. Oh, man, this doesn't sound very good. So there will be delays.
    65:58
    They learned a page from Dutch Pinball, and they ran out of money, and they're just trying to stall. No.
    66:04
    It just sounds better. Dutch. Oh, man. I wonder how any of their auctions went for Dutch Pinball. if anyone bid on anything. Supposedly the machine was sold. Really? Well, not that the machine was sold, but some of the other stuff that they had. I don't know about that, but the machine is a go.
    66:24
    Stern of the Union. Batman 66, we are still working towards our next release later this summer. Aerosmith updates are deep in development and still slated for a mid-summer release. Now, do you remember, I thought someone said that Steven Tyler was actually going to be doing call-outs. I heard that once. Yeah, I heard that once, and then I never heard it again, so... Do-be-do-be-do-bop-a-do-bop-a-do-bop! Sorry.
    66:50
    Wow. That did sound vaguely like him. I'll give you that. KISS will follow Aerosmith's updates, followed by Ghostbusters. And Gene, what do you feel about your new updates for KISS? You know, I frequently play my KISS machine, and I'm still trying to find out what the cities do. I don't understand. What do the cities do, Bruce? We don't know. Maybe you can tell us. No, I've contacted Stern and demanded the cities do something. And how did that go for you?
    67:20
    Listen, it's not the cities, literally. It's just what the game says. Yeah, it's a call-out. Yeah, it's just a call-out, folks. That's all it was for. It was just so... Yeah, that's fine. You know, okay, people, people, in World Cup soccer, you can choose your team, like, in the settings. So, like, when you get to the World Cup final or whatever, you are whatever country you chose.
    67:44
    This is like the same thing. You choose a city and they say your city's name. Hey, Cleveland. Hey, Detroit. Hey, you know, whatever. That's all it is. Why do they have to do something? Because you're supposed to be able to pick something when you first start the game. Not necessarily. I know, but that's what people think. But that's what people think nowadays. these days. Yeah. I have a choice, so I should be able to have something that means that choice means something. It was fine for Metallica. I know. And it's fine for Iron Maiden. And so, okay. Yeah. Did you know the Star Wars Hopper is in the final phase of production, development, and approvals? Woo-hoo!
    68:25
    That is one thing that came up during George Gomez's seminar. It's basically like, they just, it sounds like they keep having to change stuff. Like, nope, this ain't right, nope, this isn't good enough, Do this. Change this. They're in, like, licensing hell. So R2-D2 just isn't spinning quite right, maybe. Well, he knew.
    68:47
    Oh, my God. Who's ready for the Star Wars topper? I'm sure it's awesome. Wasn't there a picture of it? It did look good. I mean, it's R2-D2's head. As long as his head turns and lights go off, it should be cool. Maybe they're trying to make a hologram out of this, and you can actually see Princess Leia on the play field. Ooh, now you're talking. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah, yep, I agree. That's what they should do. That's what would be cool.
    69:20
    I think I have a picture of Robert England. I think that's how you say his name. I probably butchered it. The Freddy himself standing in front of a Freddy, and even he's probably saying, man, this game sucks.
    69:37
    Let's see. New coat for an Iron Maiden also, which Bruce put on right before the tournament, 1.02. Yep. Fixes, what, some kind of bug where Trooper Multibowl goes on forever? On forever and ever. It's just a game that never ends.
    69:56
    Pinball Profile now has T-shirts. You can find them on iTunes. Google and Stitcher. Stitcher and Google Play.
    70:06
    That's it with the news. News of the week has been done. Let's go to the mail ball bag. This is a really short one this week. I know. It's your lack of energy, Bruce. No, my lack of energy is just bringing everybody down.
    70:25
    So being so much more energetic, I expect lots of emails next week. Yes. Just saying. And Sean, who sent Gene Simmons' contribution last week, wants to know if you want me to send anything weekly or semi-weekly as Gene Simmons. Semi-weekly would be great. Yes, I would like that. Go for it. We love hearing from Gene. Almost as much as George Takei. Almost. Which we never got. He never got back to us. No. He was going to be a 100th guest, and he has not contacted us. Fail. Very upset. All right. This one's from Scott, our own Scott, who has listened to your suggestions. about modifications for Stargazer, and here's what we got. And Mr. Bowden is very familiar with Scott's custom software. He's been playing many of his tournaments. Absolutely. Created what, the Scottify your games? Yep, Scottify. Yep. So here's what he's got for us. He likes some of the suggestions, and here's what we're looking at. Rules changes. Okay, light a spinner based on one of the side drop banks having a target hit. These banks already award a constellation after completion, so no other function will be attached to it. None of the flipper rollovers will be lit until you complete the center drop bank. Then it will light both spinners, possibly for double scoring as Zach suggested, and also light the bottom rollovers to score one constellation, which will then turn off the rollover lanes. This will give an incentive to complete the center bank, which most people ignore, since even if you have it lit to collect 100K, you can get 100K in a nice spinner whack. Most of the time I try to get it lit for the center spinner payoff anyway, which is a relatively safe shot that you can really rack up the points with a 4K of spin. It might tap out at 2,500 of spin, I forget. What is it? Is it 2,500 or is it 4,000? No, it's 4,000. It's 4,000. Okay. The bonus multipliers will step back one half, rounded down. So 1, 2, 3X becomes 1X. 4-5x becomes 2x 6-7x becomes 3x 8-9x becomes 4x and 10x becomes 5x huh? holy crap this way between to make 3x-2x instead since you're not getting that much extra anyway I don't think a lot of anything else needs to be added to the game maybe a nice hidden bonus if you can get all three spinners going you get a 4x scoring on each spinner while they are spinning but that would be a bitch to code, although I bet I could repurpose the timer from the bottom rollovers to make a timer for the center spinner, which currently does not have one. You'd have to have some serious spinners to do that. The other two spinners already have a spinner active timer in the code, which is easy to check. I don't want to unbalance the game. If you have spinner heaven going, you'll just be ignoring the bonus X in constellation completion, although that will come naturally, since you can't light the spinners any other way. Yes. I'm considering as well to light the spinners and spot constellations at ball start just as a freebie. At most on a three-ball game, you'll get three free constellations and a couple spinner shots. Rob is getting fuller, though, so some of this might not happen.
    73:36
    So those are some of the changes. Can't wait to test it out. I'm assuming he'll give me 227.32, Rob, so I will have to re-jumper my board. Yay!
    73:47
    That's easy. More work. and that was our, that empties the ball bag. Oh. Do we want to try a face-off? No, we're doing something else. Okay, what are we doing? Would I? Oh. Or would I not buy that? Woo-hoo. It's been a while. It has been a while, and Steve's going to love these. We've got some good ones. Got some good ones? All right. Oh, yeah. For those who don't know what this is because we haven't done it in a while, Well, Bruce peruses the awesomeness that is eBay and gives us some auction numbers that you can check out. And we'll tell you whether we would or would not buy that. Mm-hmm. All right. So go for it, Bruce. Okay. First, I'm going to bring back one that we have talked about, but we never saw it auctioned until now. Item number 302-797-456-901.
    74:49
    Okay, Dana's Spicer Pinball Machine Advertising Chelsea Powers Thistle. What the hell does that mean? What is this? We talked about this about a month and a half ago when they found this game in a warehouse. No, no, no. This is actually, look at the game, Ron. You'll know the game when you look at it. We talked about this. It's your favorite. Oh, this is $6 million. Oh, $6 million turn. Yes. So what it was is there was a trade show probably in the early 80s where they rethemed this machine to show off a new product calling the Chelsea Powerplay. You get the pumps, the valves for all the truckers, all this stuff. at a truck, you know, probably at a trade show. And look, look what the fluid can do for all of you. It can do your pumps, your valves, your PTOs. This is a Valley Pimble machine that was rethemed for the Danish Splicer Auto Parts Company. The theme is around the Chelsea Power System brand and was used for a trade show back in the early 80s. This is one of a kind advertising piece. The machine is in working order. It has a brand new MPU and all the rubbers have been replaced.
    75:59
    $2,500 for a rethemed $6 million man, Ron. That is steep. But it does have Dana's spinners on them. The spinners even say Dana on them. I don't care. No, I would not pay that for this. Sorry. And look at the side art. The side art is beautiful. The side art is along the lines of dragon fist side art. It is. And viper side art, if you know what I mean. Or any, like, most mid-'80s ballet side art that just say Midway on them. Ballet Midway. So, yeah, no. Steve? No, I'm good. Me too. I'm right with you. The plate build actually doesn't have much wear or anything on it, so if you were really into this product, go for it. Yes. Otherwise, no. The seller has 100% positive feedback with 633 auctions, so that's good. There you go.
    76:52
    So we have one no. Next item, 182-969-255-576. Aha. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Viking. Oh, Viking with 20 people watching it. Okay. 20 people watching it. It is for, let's see, Viking pinball machine needs work. Needs work. Rare machine. It's rare. The rare work. You're looking at a used but in very restorable condition Viking machine. No major damage or dry rotting to the body. Play, feel. That's what it says. Play, feel. E-E-L. Is that a Bruce-ism by proxy because it's on eBay and we're doing a segment? You got it, baby. Play, feel. And the next word is good, too. Play, feel, need some touch-up. And it also lacks a back glass. Back glass. A new board was replaced for the MPU main board. Sound keeps looping. Everything is intact. has a higher resale value of $1,900 via pin side. Two words. With a little bit of work and a backlash, there's still a lot of meat on the bone for someone who knows what they're doing. Let me repeat that. That is the greatest thing that I've ever heard in a long time. With a little bit of work and a backlash, there's still a lot of meat on the bone for somebody who knows what they're doing. Okay. Now, the word backlash, what word do we think that was supposed to be? With a little work in the backlash. Yeah, okay. There's still a lot of meat in the bone for somebody. Also, with a little bit of work and a backlash. This is in a backlash. All right. Due the fees being so high to sell. Okay, due to. Do the fees. I think he meant to say due to the fees being so high to sell here, I cannot drop the price at all. Please understand this one making your bed that because of the fees being so high that takes away from breaking even on this machine and puts me in the red regardless. Again, let me try that again. Hold on.
    79:16
    Please understand this one making your bed that because of the fees being so high that takes away from breaking even on this machine and puts me in the red regardless. He read that word for word. That's not a mistake. You read that perfectly. Yep. Just looking for someone who wants a good machine from a honest seller. I thought we would make it through that well with a good sentence. We almost made it. No. And all the stuff. Not looking to make a profit, comma. I know it's a popular machine, and with a new board and small issues, it's worth the time to restore. More picks upon request. Thank you, and look forward to speaking with you.
    79:55
    So now just look at the pictures, gentlemen. Location is Lactation. No, no, I'm already out because of bad grammar. I'm out there. Out of Lactation Springs, that might be right. Okay, now, I have a problem with this.
    80:08
    This is what really ticked me off in the beginning. First, look at the first picture. The Viking has the, you look at the Viking, it's got the displays all on and everything like that. Right? Yeah. I'm seeing that first picture. It says one, look at the back last.
    80:21
    Uh-huh. It's perfect. Yeah. now go to the yeah it's not even the same machine not even close thank you like not even close like look at the 4 5 6 and 7 I know the whole entire center tree is a missing mess of numbers and the first picture has numbers look at the first picture look at the serial number on the side And then if you look at the other side picture it a different serial number Look, he's an honest seller. Hmm? If he's doing his thing, he's an honest seller. Yeah, he's honest, all right. The back glass is shot. So you're honest if the first picture is of another game, but then the rest of them show how blown out it is, and it's okay. Mm-hmm. He did take the glass off. He did. I can see, actually, he split it down. I can see that in the last picture because I can see the edge of it where he split it down and took the picture.
    81:12
    $1,250. No. Or best offer. Come on, you can make a best offer. I'd give him $300. Wait a minute. Okay, it says best offer, right? Mm-hmm. It says make offer. Make offer, yeah. Okay, what was the one comment? I cannot drop the price at all.
    81:29
    Okay, so if he cannot drop the price at all, why is make offer even on there? because he's probably been slapped around so many times. He's now probably changed his tune. All right. No, we would not buy that. No.
    81:46
    Okay, next one. All three are in agreement again on this one. Ticket number 173-371-276-055. All right. Electronic Supersonic Bally Supersonic Let's see Pictures are First one picture is fuzzy Pictures are old Assuming the date is right Or it could be just the wrong date on the camera Which does happen This is in East Haven, Connecticut The seller has 1851 Sales 99.1% positive feedback. Mm-hmm. A used Bally supersonic pinball game. A partly working machine. CPU fires up and game plays. Coils work. Displays work. Very good backless. Play field. Good but not perfect. If you've never played this game, it's a great player's game. Game plays as it should, but sound is not right. This is being sold as a project machine. Pictures are part of the description. Local pickup only. Playfield glass and legs included. Thank you for including legs. Thank you for that. I know. All right. Well, the glass is off.
    83:09
    It's blurry, but the playfield, at least what I can see of it, does look nice. No, it's not. If you look at the... What am I missing?
    83:18
    Wait for it. If you look at the 5,000 and the 4,000, you see the discolorization? The what? Scolization?
    83:28
    Discolorization. It's discolored between the 5,000 and the 4,000. You see it's like a light red and a dark red. Do you see this? Do you see this, Steve? I am not seeing this, Dave. Okay, I'm not seeing it.
    83:39
    Blow it up. Got the thing over it. Oh, yeah, I have it blown up, but I still don't. I don't see it, Bruce. Oh, it's there. Maybe I need to super blow it up.
    83:50
    5,000 and 4,000. You see right where the 5, 0, it's one color compared to the other color. It's one color compared to the other. No. It's a different red. It's like a pinkish on the left and a darker orange on the right. Right, we're to 5,000 and a 4,000. Like, it's like diagonally slitting through. Okay, now I see it as a beer. What? You mean where it's a slightly darker color? Yeah. I thought that was supposed to be there. It's probably dirt. It could be. Or, and then also around the insert rings, they've all been touched up. they're all too dark going on the S's. I just don't trust that. Especially with it being blurry. Okay. So, the price is not great.
    84:39
    $675. Or $29 for 24 months. Hmm. I think a good beginner pin. East Haven, Connecticut. Close to you, Ron.
    84:53
    It's worth a visit. It is. I agree. Well, there you go. So we think it's worth a visit, folks. It is. I think so.
    85:02
    Are you ready for your next three? I have a ton of them today. Wow. We might just end with this then. Yeah, let's just end with it. Yeah.
    85:13
    283-048-157-404. Ballet 8 ball not working. All right. The seller has only sold 12 items. Not necessarily a bad thing. Just in Connecticut.
    85:33
    Rare find. We are moving and need to sell it or else it's going to the landfill. Rare find. How many eight-ball machines did they make, Bruce? I think so. 20,000. Yeah, almost 20,000. One of the highest production games. It's the second highest. It's the second highest solid state game ever. Yes. It's a rare find. can be fully restored in the right hands. We are moving a need to sell or else it is going in the landfill. This can be cherry in the right hands.
    86:05
    All right. Let's look at the picture. Way too far away from the play field. Glass on. Can't see anything. Good start. Distance shot. Way far away. Now, if you look on the side of it, it says $1,000. Eat some work. He's on the $500. Still no pictures of close enough to see anything. All right, we've got a close-up of the back glass. The back glass is pretty hammered. Yep, it's hammered. Wear galore. Okay, play field. All right.
    86:35
    Typical wear. Yeah, a couple chips, but not as bad as some I've seen before. $500. Yep. Since it's not booting up, it's probably a bad CPU. Mm-hmm. So you think you've got to get an all-tech or Weebly for $150 or $200.
    86:54
    So for $650, $700 and plus gas. And depending if the battery took a shit and leaked all over the other board. The lights are all lighting, so I'm kind of going to say maybe it's not. So you would buy this? I might. If you're a first machine, I'd definitely try it.
    87:15
    I don't know if I'm taking a risk on this thing yet. Steve needs it working. It's only 500, but whatever. Yeah, Steve, he'll just win a game. So, I mean, buying games is really for losers. I know. Why go find a game when it's just delivered right to your house?
    87:34
    Be a member of the Players Club and just win games. Hopefully Steve had a good contract when he got hired by a company and, you know, he just gets all the new games for free. That'll work. Okay.
    87:49
    And I'll answer yes, I would buy that. Sure. See? I would buy it, too. So, next one. 132-691-216-554.
    88:06
    Wow, it's another 8-ball. Another 8-ball. Is it just as rare? It's so rare. Okay. 100% positive feedback with 718 items purchased. This is in South Carolina, the description on this one. This game is a good project candidate. Now, wait a minute. That doesn't make sense. If you're a project candidate, that means you're broke. Are you broke enough to be a project?
    88:36
    Think about how that's worded. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. No, you got it right. It would be more like, this game is a project. It may be a project. It may be. Or this game, like, how would you word this? This project game is a good candidate for a restore or something. But it does make sense to say the game is a good project candidate. With really nice cosmetics, other than the back glass, which is cracked.
    89:03
    Complete, except it is missing two boards. So it's not complete. No, it's not complete. Really strong cabinet graphics with a little wear in the solid black by the flipper buttons. Playfield is also very nice with one wear spot the size of a dime in the solid green by the kicker.
    89:20
    If you have a 1977 Valley 8 ball with a bad cabinet in our playfield, this would be right up your alley, too. It's $300.
    89:29
    And it's not missing two boards. It's only missing one board in the back. Hold on. Let me see one other thing. I'm looking. Please hold. I see the one little wear spot. It's actually missing more than two boards. You know what it's missing? The transformer. Wow. Oh, yeah. Okay, the back glass is cracked. The cabinet. Okay, that's more than a little wear. Like, all the black is gone. It's, like, to the wood. Yeah, by the hands. Yeah. Playfield doesn't look that bad. Yeah, no transformer, no rectifier board. No, there's no transformer. It's missing transformer, rectifier board, CPU.
    90:07
    It has a stern light board in it, and I think that's stern. Is that a stern one, or is that a... So would you buy this, Bruce? No. Because it looks like it's just a parts machine. It looks like it's just parts and a bunch of wood for $300. Yeah. No.
    90:25
    Next. And the last one, this is actually for me and Ron, so I don't know if we're going to edit this or not, so I'll leave it up to Ron, but I get first dibs on this before I show this to Ron. Do you agree, Ron? We just won't say what it is. Do you agree that I get first dibs? Sure. Okay. You heard that, Steve, right? You didn't show it to me yet. No, no, no. Okay. Ticket number 183-307-803-548.
    90:56
    Oh. Wow. You did say I get first dibs. Very nice, Bruce. Very nice. We can't say what it is. I can say it in two minutes. What do you mean you can say it in two minutes? I think we're going to buy it. Oh, you're going to buy it? I think so. You're going to buy it? Okay, folks. We are buying something live during the podcast here. Yep. So let's see. Bruce, you're going to do the buy it now? Yep. You're actually going to do the buy it now for this? What do you think? Oh, my goodness. Would you? How are you blowing the picture up? I can't look. Actually, I'm right-clicking it, saving image, and then blowing it up in paint. All right, hold on. Let's take a look at this, folks. Okay, so we're going to do it. Let's see what he says. What if I try to go cheaper like what you would do?
    91:47
    Wait a minute. You're the cheapest dude ever. I still got that area to the left of that display. I need to see. It is an IPDB. It's there. All right. Let me look. It's a nebula. You know what I'm going to do? What are you going to do? I'm going to do it the smart way.
    92:07
    Here's a little tip, folks. Go to the Pinball Flyer database. And there's a specific one. They have all the stuff in there at like 300 DPI. So you click on a thing. You can blow them way the hell up. And you can like read them easily.
    92:24
    So I'm on the Flyer site. It's flyers.cdyn.com. Actually, the first flyer it shows is Viper, one of the cooler ones. So if we go to this particular game, for the particular thing we're looking at that we're not telling anyone, until Bruce ends up buying it, here's the flyer. Okay, we got the flyer. Oh, my. Yeah, you're right. It's on the flyer. I'm blowing the flyer up full res here. Yeah. I think that's part of the – is that text? Is that text that comes out? Is that the tilt? No, I thought the tilt's down on the lower left, below one. All right. Below the one, the white there. Wow. Okay. In that case. And it matches. It matches. Exactly. Go for it, Bruce. If you look at the fighter, there's no cracks in the fighter if you go by the picture. If you actually blow it up. Yeah, I'm blowing it up. On ours, the one at the auction. Mm-hmm. There's no cracks on the stars. What do you think? The planets. the actual, the ship flying looks good. How about the red planet? Is that screwed up at all? Do you see that little white mark in the red planet? Oh, in the center of the red planet? Yeah. Alright, let's go, uh, no, that's in the original. Those are like flames. See? So, no, I mean in the middle. In the middle of that. Yes. The flame extends into the flames are actually coming out of the center of the planet. Okay. What do you think? Just get it. Just do it. Do it. Use the aggressive feelings, boy. Unlimited power. Put in your credit card number.
    94:10
    Buy it now. Literally, buy it now. Hit the buy it now button. Hold on, hold on. I'm trying to. I've got to do one other thing. Hold on, boy. What the hell? I have eBay bucks I want to use. Ooh, we have seven watchers, ladies and gentlemen. Scintillating eBay. This is worth the price of admission right here, this eBay action. Bruce making a purchase during the podcast, ladies and gentlemen. Ooh, I'm going to use my eBay bucks.
    94:35
    So it goes down even more. Is the shipping, is that correct? $35. That seems like it should be more. No, actually, the black last I got the shirt on me was $35 also. Oh, okay.
    94:47
    Confirming and paying. Waiting for it. Once we confirm this, I will reload the page, and we will tell you what it is.
    94:55
    Try it now. Refresh. Oh It's ended It's been sold Oh my And I saved $2.74 on this purchase And what was it Bruce? It was a I hope a near perfect Stars Backlash With a great game like Stars It has to be good And it has to be better than Ron's Anything is better than mine Mine's a complete turd Well the good thing is maybe I can sell you mine because mine's pretty good. Not great, but pretty good. Yeah, but it's better than mine. It's good, but it's good enough.
    95:32
    It's good, but it's good enough. Okay, Bruce, again, it's not just good. It's good enough. It's good, and it's good enough. And, okay, now what? Okay, all right. I forgot the and. I'm Bruce System down here. No, you're not. So I did buy it. Yeah. For the first time. This is the first time. This is not. Will we buy that? Yes, we would, and we did on the podcast. Now, if I didn't give you a choice, Ron, would you have bought it? No. No? No. Your stars is not that good for you? The backlash is shit, but I would rather, if I was at a show or saw something that I could pick up there, I just don't want to have something shipped. And what was the last time? Oh, there's one more machine I have. I found one more. Sorry. You found one more. Okay, folks, this is going to be the last one of the day. Yes, it is. I forgot this one. Ready?
    96:28
    You might be the one getting this one, Mr. Ron. Okay. Ticket number 302-796-512-375. The only thing bad about it is the backlash. No, it's the solid state. But it's the solid state. It's not the EM. I need the EM. I need that sound, Bruce. Sorry. This is a vintage 1977 Hot Tip horse racing pinball machine. It's an estate sale.
    97:04
    Let's see. What does it say? Condition-wise, we would rate it 7.5 out of 10. Playfield rates an 8 out of 10. Paint is intact. Shows very little wear or damage. Looking inside all components. Appear clean, intact, and complete. Back glass is in need of some restoration. Yeah. The back glass is shot. All right. $700. Oh yeah, the back glass is shot It says The left flipper responds But no news on the right flipper That could be just a coil wire Yeah Interesting thing about the back glass is Zach has the solid state and the EM Next to each other And it's weird, like the solid state Back glass is like, it's a zoomed in Version of the EM glass Weird Oh yeah, at least they took They took close-ups of the wear. Yeah, at least they showed you. Yeah.
    97:57
    They're showing it to you like, look at the wear. Yep. Playfield does look nice. It's worn up top. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah. There's a wear mark, and the ball is in the saucer for some reason. I mean, I wouldn't buy it just because it's a solid-state version. Wow. I need the EM version. Sorry. Once you have the EM version, you can't go back.
    98:18
    But you can't fix an EM version. Sure I can. I have a trainer. Zach or I will train you. He says I need to get a broken one so I can learn. So that's the key.
    98:29
    Okay, so now I've got to start hunting for a hot tip EM for you. Sure. I've got one more for you. Oh, man. I just got it. Good one. This will be the cherry, the icing on the cake. Okay. Very on top. 322-381-500-809. And now wait for it. Wait for it. It is a 1990 vintage Star Wars pinball machine, ladies and gentlemen.
    99:02
    Somehow the shipping is only $60. I don't know how that's possible. 111 watching. What is that? Yes, it is from a seller with zero, I repeat, zero feedback. It is $10,000. and this is the description ready? this is the description, this is the kind of selling you need to do when you have a game this expensive a vintage 1990 Star Wars pinball machine mint condition for sale yeah, again pictures glass on all angles cabinetware playfieldware cabinetware like it says Star Wars it just says Star the bottom of wars is gone Star Wars yeah this person is on crack yes maybe in Wyoming there's not many pinball machines so they think it's expensive I don't know how they think the shipping is only $60 I thought you got a kick out of that one yeah I think that's a good finisher there. I thought it was too. $10,000 pinball machine. Yep. Data East Star Wars. I do have one more, but you guys don't want to wait that. One more. One more? One more. Okay, one more, Bruce.
    100:30
    172 819 523 806. And wait for it again. Oh. Picardy. Cuba, or is it Cuba? Picardy? Yes, Cuba. Cuba, Libra. Pinball, baffle ball game. Highway, pinball. Ultra rare. Ultra rare, yeah. It's fucking ultra rare. I'm sure it is. It's the rarest alien at this point. What the hell is this thing? They made it before. They made this, actually. Highway made this for Picardy to give away. They would bring this to places, and then you would actually use this baffle ball and try to win drinks, you know. $1,750.
    101:18
    This could be yours. Yep. No. Come on, it's one of the few pinball machines you can get from Highway Pinball that might actually work. Oh!
    101:27
    Ooh. Oh, my. Ugh. Let's read the description. Oh, there's a description. Oh, sorry. Oh, there's a big description. I'm sorry. Oh, God. No, I'm not reading this whole thing. There was a basketball game manufactured by Highway Pinball in 2014 as a trade simulator for Bacardi and was limited to only 251 units. That's probably more than Alien. Way more. Moved to be brought from bar to bar.
    101:57
    Manufacturers detail the promotion. Contrary to what the manufacturer's website says, these are no longer manufactured by Highway. Actually, nothing is manufactured by Highway.
    102:07
    Yeah. Would you or would you not buy them? No. No, I'm good. No. So, Steve, you have anything you want to plug? Yes. I'll plug funwithbonus.com. I have fun with bonus everywhere online. And also looking forward to finally putting out the next episode of the Meltdown Pitball Podcast, available on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, and Spotify somehow. So, Steve, predictions now for the TTI, now that you are? in it. There is no taking prisoners. I will do the trash talking. You will do the rule trash talking. Right. And Ron, you're just going to look pretty. Our prediction is pain. Pain.
    102:56
    Mrs. Bricks. That's what we predict. Your prediction? Bricks. Lots of bricking. I'm going to bust you up. Go for it. Love it. I love it. how many different, like, catchphrases can I think of? I'll be back. Get him a body bag. Yeah. Get him a chopper. It's not a tumor. And don't forget, we've got to get you. Now, Steve, we're walking in on theme music. You need to get your own theme music ready and tell me what it is so I can get it on the old. Okay. Okay, because we need to have that. On your boom box you're going to bring in? On my boom box. I'm bringing a boom box in.
    103:35
    Mine is Hocus Pocus by Focus. And I'm going with now, Rip, Rip, Rip and Destroy by Kiss. No, that's the Crop Duster. That's the Crop Duster song, yes. Rip, Rip, Rip and Destroy.
    103:53
    God, I love that. That was the original title. The record company would not go for that. And so, Steve, you have time. You have a couple weeks to think about it. Okay. Excellent. We'll see what theme song I think up after I'm delirious from all this pinball play at the reveal. Oh, yes. I don't know.
    104:15
    I love it. Good luck this weekend, Steve. Thank you very much. Good luck. We're all counting on you. Yes. And we will be watching. Yes, we will. We will be watching during my OCPC event at the Level Zero Arcade, which will be occurring this Saturday. Come one, come all. Play Quicksilver. play many awesome games. So we are the Slam Tilt Podcast. We could be found at SlamTiltPodcast.com where you can get links to all our different sites. You can go to Twitch and watch our stream that doesn't seem to play for some reason. You can go to YouTube and watch, hopefully, a video that is processed and not failed. You can get our RSS feed and put it in the podcatcher of your choice. That way you'll have us with you always. You can reach us for correspondence at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. That's slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Give our shout-outs to the friends of the show. There is pinball star Joe Newhart. Go there for all your Jersey Jack, Spooky, Home Pin, and American pinball needs. There's also Flipper Fidelity, Mike Pupo. Check him out for all your pinball sound needs. He's also a Stern distributor. Thanks once again to Steve Bowden. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Hopefully you can continue to appear and Deep Root gives them permission, as long as we promise not to talk about Deep Root games or something. No, we don't.
    105:48
    And see all you suckers at Pinberg where we take you down in the TTI, bitches. Woo-hoo! We are in. Do it. Let me flow through you, Bruce. Yes.
    106:04
    Everyone will be appearing. I mean, Gene Simmons will be there. Beavis will be there. Mr. Anderson slash Hank Hill will be there. They will all be trash-talking you. Dexter, too. Who? Dexter. Oh, yeah, you're one voice. Yes. Dexter.
    106:20
    Stewie, they'll all be there. We're going to take them all out. That's right, Brian. They're all going down. Oh, my. I'm not the only one who's had a score. Oh!
    106:31
    That's enough. This has been Episode 99, Iron Man 3. Thanks, everyone. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Elena Kern.
    106:58
    Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my.