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Godzilla 70th | Pinlympics 2028 | Don Schemes to Keep Black Rose

Bash Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Sep 6, 2024
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TL;DR

Bash Podcast: Don plots to keep Black Rose; discusses Godzilla 70th rarity and 'Pinlympics 2028' petition.

Summary

The Bash Pinball Podcast episode features comedic skits about the host Don's desperate attempts to prevent his friend Matt from selling a Black Rose pinball machine. Interspersed with humor are genuine discussions about Stern's Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition (positively received for not charging premium prices), the rarity of this variant, and a humorous petition for pinball to be included in the 2028 Olympics, with arguments that pinball requires comparable skill and athleticism to recognized Olympic sports like breakdancing.

Key Claims

  • Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition is not being charged at a premium price above regular premium tier pricing

    high confidence · Host states: 'And I'm glad they're not charging like a premium, a premium for it. It's just it's the price of the of the premium.'

  • Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition is very rare in the southeast US, with only 5-6 sightings on Pinside's pin map

    high confidence · Host says: 'I pulled up the pin map on Pinside and at least in the southeastern United States I didn't see any... literally it was like a handful it was like five or six maybe that i saw on the map like in the u.s'

  • Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition only came out in July and is still in production

    high confidence · Host states: 'it only came out in July and i think it's still technically in production'

  • Spooky Pinball released an Elvira variant called 'Blood Red Kiss Edition' with black, white, and red accents

    high confidence · Host clarifies: 'It's the Blood Red Kiss Edition' for Elvira game

  • Godzilla 70th Anniversary will likely become the rarer and more desirable version of the game in 10 years

    medium confidence · Host opinion: 'I think 10 years from now, that version of the game is going to be more rare and probably like the one to have.'

  • Most location operators already have regular Godzilla and won't need the 70th Anniversary variant

    medium confidence · Host states: 'most locations already have they already have a regular godzilla'

Notable Quotes

  • “I stole the keys to his black rose so he can't sell it yet.”

    Don (Host) @ 0:00-0:30 — Sets up the comedic premise of the entire episode about preventing the sale of a Black Rose machine

  • “And I'm glad they're not charging like a premium, a premium for it... And I think they could have done some price gouging and they didn't.”

    Host @ ~2:00-2:30 — Positive sentiment about Stern's pricing strategy for Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition

  • “I don't want to hear anything about pinball not being a sport because breakdancing was in this most recent Olympics like a couple weeks ago. Totally. And if breakdancing can be in the Olympics, pinball can be in the Olympics.”

    Don (Host) @ ~15:00-16:00 — Core argument for Pinlympics 2028 petition; shows community humor about legitimizing pinball as competitive sport

  • “My brain is sore. My reaction time is... My eyes are sore. My eyes get dry. I'm focusing so hard. It's legit physically taxing on you, man.”

    Co-host @ ~16:30-17:00 — Articulates the physical demands of high-level pinball play as justification for Olympic inclusion

  • “There's very few people in the world who are able to play at the highest level of pinball. How is that any different?”

    Co-host @ ~17:30 — Argument that elite pinball skill is as rare and demanding as Olympic sports

Entities

Stern PinballcompanyDonpersonMattpersonGlenn WechterpersonAaronpersonGodzilla 70th AnniversarygameBlack Rosegame

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Community organizing informal 'Pinlympics 2028' petition to establish pinball as Olympic sport with Godzilla as standard competition machine

    medium · Hosts draft formal petition language and debate merits; argument that pinball has skill/athleticism parity to breakdancing and skateboarding (recent Olympic additions)

  • ?

    event_signal: Bash Pinball created unofficial 'Stern Ambassador Program' (SAP) in episode 18; marketing/merchandise ideas for Stern sponsorship discussed

    medium · Hosts reference SAP polo merchandise and propose Stern t-shirt/gold foil raffle mechanics for machine giveaways

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Strong positive community sentiment toward limited edition anniversary variants; anticipation that rare versions will become more collectible

    medium · Hosts express enthusiasm about 70th Anniversary becoming 'the one to have' in 10 years; comparison to Elvira Blood Red Kiss Edition as precedent for collectibility

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball community actively legitimizing competitive pinball by comparing physical and cognitive demands to recognized Olympic sports

    medium · Co-host describes physical toll of competitive play: sore brain, eyes, reaction time exhaustion; argues rarity of elite players comparable to other Olympic disciplines

  • $

    market_signal: Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition shows extremely limited location adoption; most venues already have regular Godzilla in rotation

    high · Host notes only 5-6 units documented in southeastern US despite several months of availability; most are owned by individuals rather than locations

Transcript

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0:00
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0:20
Mmm. Thanks for tuning in to the Bash Pinball Podcast episode number 22. I gotta be quiet so Matt doesn't hear me. I stole the keys to his black rose so he can't sell it yet. He thinks this is just a bonus episode about Godzilla stuff, but I just can't let her go. Anyways, enjoy.
0:49
How do you feel about the Godzilla 70th anniversary? I think it's cool. I mean, It makes sense, you know. They did a Jurassic Park, you know, recently, what, 30th anniversary? I actually don't know. Or 30th.
1:07
It had to be 30th. I think it came out in 93. Okay, yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. So, I mean, it's kind of on brand to do special editions and stuff like that. And, you know, it's got a little bit of centaur vibes with the black and white and red. Yeah, I love that. And that's like the best play field ever. So, you know, I think it's cool. And I'm glad they're not charging like a premium, a premium for it. It's just it's the price of the of the premium.
1:36
There's no premium other than the normal premium that you pay with the premium. Right. So I thought that was cool. And I think they could have done some price gouging and they didn't. And I really appreciate that. Yeah. Speaking of which, we covered earlier, possibly wanting to get one. I kind of want the 70th, dude. I was thinking about it because they're not very common I don't even think there's one in the state right now I saw they're still available though I kind of wanted to go play one so I pulled up the pin map on Pinside and at least in the southeastern United States I didn't see any it only came out in July and I think it's still technically in production I saw a couple you know like wedgehead was notable because we kind of follow each other on instagram and yeah portland yeah they have one which i thought was cool yeah yeah but literally it was like a handful it was like five or six maybe that i saw on the map like in the u.s okay yeah i would imagine most of those are just going to individuals because most locations already have they already have a regular godzilla yeah so it's like if you're one of the few that doesn't actually already have godzilla or maybe you had a pro and you're like you know what let's go to the premium that makes sense but I can't imagine there's going to be that many around a play we should get one and charge $10 just kidding we'll set up a little kiosk in the mall with the ATM machine right next to it are there still malls?
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  • $

    market_signal: Stern maintains premium tier pricing for Godzilla 70th without additional premium surcharge, differentiating from typical FOMO-driven pricing

    high · Host explicitly states: 'It's just it's the price of the of the premium. There's no premium other than the normal premium that you pay with the premium' and 'I think they could have done some price gouging and they didn't'

  • ?

    community_signal: Glenn Wechter confirmed as Saw homebrew pinball creator and early Bash Pinball interview guest; active in pinball community

    high · Glenn appears as interview subject and in comedic phone skits; described as 'Bash Pinball's first interview' and Saw homebrew designer

  • ?

    announcement: Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition officially released by Stern in July 2024 with limited production run

    high · Hosts confirm release date and ongoing production status; visible on Pinside location map with documented sightings in multiple states

    • 3:09
    I'm not sure but yeah I think it's cool it's kind of the Elvira because they did an Elvira what's it called? I want to say the Black Rose Edition, but that's definitely not it. I know what you're talking about. It's like – I also want to say like Bloodsuckers, but that's – Oh, that's the spooky thing. Rick and Morty. Yeah, yeah. That's – but yeah, you're right. It's something with a B.
    3:37
    Elvira. Ah, okay. I was close. It's not the Black Rose Edition. It's the Blood Red Kiss Edition. Oh, Blood Red Kiss. It is.
    3:50
    But yeah, it has that same kind of black and white plus some red accents and stuff vibe. And it's, I don't know, it just looks great. It looks really good. I really like it. And it does seem like 10 years from now, that version of the game is going to be more rare and probably like the one to have. I think so. Really? Yeah. I think so. And honestly, like it just looks cool. Yeah. I kind of want one. Definitely looks cool. Yeah. I'll split one with you if we win the pin lottery. Yeah. Which, by the way, I know I keep making jokes about getting scratchers. That's not real. I don't actually, I don't have a gambling habit. I don't have a gambling problem. It's not gambling. It's the lottery. But, you know, dare to dream.
    4:33
    I mean, there's nothing wrong with buying a random lotto ticket every once in a while. I wouldn't personally throw my money away that way, but I'm fine with you doing it.
    4:47
    Hello? Oh, hey mom. You know how you said I can call you if there's ever an emergency? Yes, is everything okay, papa? Not really. Matt is trying to sell a black rose and I don't have the money to buy it. So, do you think you can help me? Donald, black rose is an emergency to you? Yeah. You know you can count on me for any emergency, but for a big man's toys, you need to pay for yourself. but for a big man's toys you need to pay for yourself keep trying though don't give your hopes up love you all right bye i just want a pinball machine man i don't even care i don't even want a million dollars i want nine thousand six hundred and what ninety nine ninety nine dollars plus tax so give me ten thousand fine but i'm buying that freaking god it's gonna get taxed heavily yeah you're gonna need like you know give me like 14 or 15 yeah yeah actually here's an idea yeah stern you make some scratchers and i'll buy some and turn the lottery ticket yeah and maybe like uh you give away a game or two you know what i'm saying like a raffle it's basically a raffle and you yeah that i can scratch yeah it's like uh you buy you buy a chocolate bar wrapped in gold foil.
    6:11
    And sometimes you win a pinball machine. Yeah, I'm into it. I would totally be into that if the chocolate good So here what you could do right Is that legal Can you legally have like a just like totally ripped Willy Wonka yeah it where the gold ticket up and where the line between you know I guess it is legal probably here what you could do stern make some shirts yeah get the gold tag oh yeah I've seen people do that like like you one in whatever number of shirts is printed differently and you win yeah because I'm gonna wear it anyways yeah at least I'll get a shirt and if it's got the gold tag you get a machine I get Godzilla 70th anniversary. How many... How many shirts will I buy? How many Godzilla t-shirts will you buy, Mr. Donald, who doesn't have a gambling problem? Okay, so here's the problem. If it's one design... Yeah. Probably two. Okay. So more than one. We're still talking more than one. If it's across, you know... Which, by the way, they have some cool shirts. I looked at them recently. Yeah. And I kind of like them. They seem to be upping their merch game. Yeah. I kind of want to rep pinball a little harder. You know? Yeah. I want to walk the walk. Yeah. You got to put on a pin-friendly face. Well, I'm a sap now, so. If it was across their line of shirts, I would buy them all. Yeah, like a series of Godzilla shirts? Or, you know, like any pinball shirt. Any Stern shirt, I mean, I'm sorry. Yeah, like you could win... From August 20th through October 31st, if you buy any Stern pinball shirt, I would strongly consider buying them all. I wonder how many shirts they actually sell that they could possibly justify giving away a pinball machine.
    7:48
    I mean, that's a lot of shirts. That's a lot of shirts. They got to have like a B-stock somewhere and like just collecting dust somewhere that you can just offload. I mean, I'll even drive up. I'll pick it up. I'll put it on a plane. I don't care. I'll figure it out. Yeah, they don't even have to print special shirts. They can just print some gold foil stickers and they stick that on like one in every... Just stick it on there. 10,000, 20,000. How many... I mean, really, they're not selling that many shirts. I mean, it can be that many, but... Yeah. That's why I like those odds. Yeah, it does seem like pretty good. I was like, I might buy a couple shirts. Anyway, Stern, do it. Yeah, I'm in. I'm still waiting for my SAP polo.
    8:23
    Yeah, we haven't heard from Stern yet. Quick reminder for context. SAP, the unofficial Stern Ambassador Program created by us. Check it out on episode 18, titled, We're Still Standing with John, Not Elton, the Other One.
    8:45
    Hello? Oh, hey, little sis. Hey, what's going on? Uh, not much. What are you up to? I'm actually laying in bed right now with a cold. Oh, no. You don't think I got you sick, right? I have no idea, but I'm not feeling great. Well, what's up?
    9:02
    Uh, well, I mean, not much, but I was gonna see if I could borrow, like, $3,000. Oh, my God. I know you did not just call me while I'm sick to ask for money.
    9:19
    Yes? I gotta go. Bye. On this next chunk, will pinball ever be accepted into the Olympics? Hmm. I guess you could say that this might be a candidate for the official pinlympics. Yeah. Or when pinball enters the Olympics as a global sport. This kind of would make sense. I mean, for the reasons we were just saying, like, everybody knows this game. Everybody likes this game. Everyone knows Godzilla. It's got a good balance of difficulty. It's not too easy. It's not too hard. Yeah. I mean, short of a dedicated pinball Olympics. Like its own theme, yeah. Theme. Yeah. Like this is the Olympics themed game. And maybe that's just a rebadged Godzilla playfield.
    10:17
    Yeah. Just change some of the parts. Maybe make like the Mechagodzilla, like the, I don't know. Yeah. Like uneven bars or, you know. Yeah, the pommel horse.
    10:28
    Yeah, Mechagodzilla is the pommel horse. The right ramp is the, I don't know, long jump or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it could be done. It's hilarious. But yeah, it's hard to imagine a more appropriate pinlympics universal game that everybody competes on. Yeah. Dear Olympics committee. This is the formal bash petition for Godzilla to be the official Olympics pinball game. Yeah, and I don't want to hear anything about pinball not being a sport because breakdancing was in this most recent Olympics like a couple weeks ago. Totally. And if breakdancing can be in the Olympics, pinball can be in the Olympics. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I'm done. Totally. 100%. Yeah. Especially, you know, Godzilla. I walk away sore.
    11:16
    Yeah. I'm serious. My brain is sore. My reaction time is... My eyes are sore. My eyes get dry. I'm focusing so hard. It's legit physically taxing on you, man. It is. It requires all of the technical skill and practice. To do it on a high level, I don't know that there's... There's very few people in the world who are able to play at the highest level of pinball. How is that any different? Yeah. And some people get were in some people who weren't on a very high level still were in the breakdancing competition.
    11:54
    Oh, man. Hey. What's up, cuz? How you been? I've been pretty good. How about you, man? Good, good. How's high school? High school's going pretty well. I'm doing pretty well. nice well uh i was really uh trying to see if you could let me borrow like three thousand dollars i'm 17 um do i look like i have three thousand dollars yes don't you have like a job or something yeah i just i just desperate i desperate cuz come on man bruh bye Okay so my last question in regards to the pinball Olympics Yeah Do you think that slightly elevated chance element right Yeah. Which considered it gambling way back when. Yeah, yeah. Do you think that's why, formally, the Olympics committee may not take this petition seriously? You think the chance element kind of disqualifies it from competitive sport? 100% competitive sport slash skill because you can totally botch a game and that is in a way unfair, right? I don't know. I don't think so because I think every sport has some chance elements. You know, you can't control every single variable. Physical factors around you. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I think about skateboarding. Yeah. I mean, if you're skateboarding, your wheels are going to be rolling a little different on this surface than they were at the place that you train. Yeah. And, you know. Wind. There's wind. Wax on the rails or the curbs or. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's just the fact that you're being observed by thousands of people is affecting your mindset and. Where you are in the world, right? It's going to change the climate if it's more humid or...
    13:55
    Yeah. Maybe you're right, dude. Maybe your lips are super dry. Maybe you're right. Okay, so I agree with you. Yeah. It's still 100% a great candidate for the Olympics. Yeah, in a lot of ways, it controls the variables more than a lot of other sports do. You're right. You know, if you're snow skiing or something, I mean, there's an insane amount of variables. That's part of it. You're right. There could be just like a standard, you know, like inclination slash grade, you know, level. Yeah. Flippers could be, you know, I mean, you know, they test soccer balls and basketballs for like PSI and stuff. Yeah. Everybody uses the same rubbers and, you know, it's standardized. Everybody knows what they're getting into. Let's do it. It can actually be extremely level playing field. Let's do it. Yes. Penn Olympics 2028. Is it a summer sport or a winter sport? I can't remember. Could be either. It's flexible.
    14:51
    Call Godzilla Garcia. Your call has been forwarded to voicemail. The person you're trying to reach is not available. At the tone, please record your message. When you have finished recording, you may hang up.
    15:11
    Follow-up petition. When this happens, we officially accept being your hosts. we'll be commentators yeah i accept that i'm not the most knowledgeable yeah and with history and technicality but i'm pretty cool i'm pretty hey we're fun if it's only one game then it's not that hard to learn every detail of it and commentate on it i mean i think jack danger would probably do a much better job than yeah yeah for myself but either way i accept officially if you guys want to have us right like this I want to be the Colin Jost of pinlympics or snoop dog yeah yeah I feel more appropriate calling myself the Colin Jost of the pinlympics but anyway minus the egregious foot wounds that he incurred what happened he got sent home early because he hurt his foot and there was like insects infesting his wounds oh my god I didn't know that Because he was in Fiji doing the surfing commentating. I had no idea. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny.
    16:20
    Hey, don't. Dímelo, dímelo. ¿Estamos en vivo o qué? Hey, José. ¿Qué tal, loco? ¿Cómo estás, bro? Todo bien. ¿Está todo bien, bro? Cuéntame. Dímelo porque estoy cocinando aquí. ¿Carnasada? Esa mismo, man. Ya lo sabe. Super. Dímelo. Te iba a preguntar si me podías prestar como otros 3,000 baros, bro.
    16:36
    ¿Qué? ¿Te volviste loco? ¿Para qué? Basic English translation. F*** no. Man, I don't know who else to call. Oh, let me try Glenn. Call Glenn Wechter, Bash Pinball's first interview, Saw Homebrew, Cool Audio Guy.
    17:15
    Hello? Glenn. Oh, yeah, Tom, what's up? Hey, Glenn. Not much. I wanted to let you know that the episode is officially live. Oh, sweet. Yeah, thanks again for being part of the interview, man. I think it went pretty well, and just really happy to have you. Man, that was a lot of fun. I hope I get another chance to do it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Matt and I were talking about having you come back at some point in the future. So, yeah, man. What do you got going on right now? Are you busy? I just made the kids dinner. I'm about to take my dogs for a walk. But other than that, nothing much. What's up? I don't know how to say this, man. I need $3,000. I'm just going to say it.
    17:52
    Three grand. Is it because that's about how much Black Rose costs? Correct. Oh, man. I know how much that game means to you, too. I mean, John, all right. We're going to have to work on something here. You know, there's a lot of Black Roses in the sea. Are there? Yeah. But do they look this good? I'm just talking about like pirate ships. Yeah. But as far as pinball machines go, you can always get Black Rose back. But can I, is it going to be the same? Like if I let this one go? I know it's hard to say goodbye sometimes. But yeah, I think you're going to have to let this one go. And if it's meant to be, it'll come back. If it's meant to be, it'll come back. Yeah, that's, I heard it in a song once maybe. Maybe in a movie. I'm not really a good thinker of my own. I kind of have to steal stuff. But yeah, I think it works in this situation. I mean, I can't say things as eloquently as Ian. Have you called him yet again? I mean, I'm sure he wants to rehash this conversation, right? No, no, I haven't called Ian. I think he's sending me straight to voicemail or something. I'm not really sure what's going on. Yeah I think you only get so many phone calls a month with your Nudge magazine subscription Well I hope you helped man I wouldn be a friend if I just gave you because you would not have grown That what friends are there for right You're right, Glenn. Thanks for being our friend. Thanks for being my friend.
    19:10
    Thank you for being my friend. All right. Talk to you later. So on your quest to a billion, have you hit it yet? I'm sad to say no. oh no you're never gonna believe what happened try me okay i got all the way up to 700 and i think it was like 30 million okay pretty close end of ball two though okay starting ball three uh-huh okay and i lean in to take a picture of the score because i couldn't believe it and i i was like surely enough this is my ball three start i have a mechagonzilla multiball queued up i have everything going for me right everything's right to hit these freaking like a couple another hundred million right yeah as i'm leaning in unknowingly my body's on the start button like the game start button as i take the picture i see the screen flash and i see godzilla emerging from the ocean and I look at player one and two and three and four and everything is zero. Oh, you reset it. I reset it by accident. And so you couldn't just wait until the game was completed to take a picture of your score. What's the purpose of the middle of the game score? Here's the only way I can describe it. I kind of got in the zone and I forgot all about scoring and I was focusing on hitting shots, right? Yeah. And then I looked up at the end of the ball and I saw it and I felt so excited. And I was like, I have to capture this moment. You know, I hadn't seen my score in a very long time. So it was kind of a shocker. When I see that number, I was like, oh, I got to capture this right now. And like I put my phone up and I can't really see it. So then I come around the corner and I lean in and like as I snap it, dude, it totally just reset the game.
    21:10
    Oh, so close yet so far. I'll post a picture on Instagram. That's so sad. Because you can actually see Mechagodzilla geared up. He's sitting there all swole, you know what I'm saying?
    21:26
    You blew it. You're never going to get a billion now. Oh, I am. I'm going to get two billion now, dude. Just wait. You'll get there, Donnie. I believe in you. Yeah, me too. Me too.
    21:40
    Call Aaron, Boxcar Durham, Godzilla, Pin Billionaire. Don, what's up, man? Oh, hey, what's up, Aaron? How you doing, man? Pretty good, pretty good. What can I do for you, man? So two things, okay? Number one, good seeing you over the weekend, and congrats on hitting that billion on Godzilla. Huge. Thanks for the tips. I think it's going to help me out. Number two, I need to borrow $3,000.
    22:05
    $3,000? Three grand. Yeah, what's up? What do you need that for? Black Rose. Black Rose? yeah all right fair enough man but hey i look i got some good news and some bad news man i'll give you the bad news first not 10 minutes ago guy called me up i gave him my last three grand over the phone but here's the great news really he said he was a nigerian prince oh he's gonna come over here in about a week or two repay me tenfold and uh you know various gems rich resources and then you know i'll swing by and pick that bad boy up no problem heck yeah man i mean we could pretty much get any game we want that's awesome that's right man we'll be pinball rich all right man we'll hit me up in about a week or two and we should be uh good to go awesome so yeah that didn't really work out um hope you enjoyed the episode though and if anyone's interested in going in on that black rose let me know oh wait what's this hang on you have one unheard message sent today at 9 35 a.m hey hey don um yeah i guess you're busy so i'll just I'll just leave a message. I kind of wanted to do this in person, but, uh, anyways, I was, I was thinking about our conversation a couple of days ago regarding, uh, Matt's, uh, betrayal of your friendship and selling the black Rose. And, um, well, I think music has proven to be a tool for healing and acceptance. And even in some rare situations could even lead to forgiveness.
    23:30
    So, you know, well, I've got my guitar and, uh, I'd like to play a song and maybe this, uh, this will help ease your pain. How will I say goodbye to the Black Rose Man? Oh, Black Rose. The good games they played in life were never sad.
    24:06
    Don't thought it'd stay Replaced forever You'll never be replaced But the shack has got an empty bay So hard to say goodbye To Black Rose today
    24:36
    Well, there you go, Don. I hope that helps. Thanks again for having me on the show. Oh, yeah, this is Glenn, by the way. Sorry, I should have mentioned that. Have yourself a great week. Bye.
    25:06
    Bye.