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Black Rose

gameactive48 mentionsFirst seen Mar 18, 2007Last seen Dec 4, 2025

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Black Rose is a pirate-themed pinball game manufactured by Williams on the WPC platform, released in 1992. The game features a cannon mechanism, ship-sinking multiball, and broadside shot mechanics that have made it notable in the pinball community. It was one of Brian Eddy's early software works and has been praised for code quality. The game has achieved cultural significance as a collector's item and tournament machine, with multiple owners and restoration projects documented across pinball media.

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  • designedBrian EddyBrian Eddy created the software for Black Rose in 1992medium
  • manufacturesWilliamsWilliams manufactured Black Rose on the WPC platform in 1992medium
  • appears_inRaymond DavidsonRaymond Davidson owns a Black Rose machine that he considers special and wouldn't sell; it was his first-ever pinball gamemedium
  • ownsIanIan purchased Black Rose as his first new machine; the machine became valuable and was later resoldmedium

Facts

  • achievementFirst machine Jamie restoredhigh
  • achievementMachine owned and restored by Jamie during pandemichighfrom 2020
  • affiliationManufactured by Valley/Williamshighfrom 1992
  • attributeIncludes ship-sinking multiballhigh
  • attributeContains video modeshigh
  • attributeWilliams pinball game on WPC platformhighfrom 1992
  • attributeAlternative backglass version with pirates/skeletons theme created by Brian Allen Flyland Designs

Claims (3)

  • factualhigh

    Black Rose pinball machine costs approximately $9,600-$10,000

    Source: Don (Host)Godzilla 70th | Pinlympics 2028 | Don Schemes to Keep Black Rose
  • factualhigh

    One Sunk Ship award on Black Rose exceeds the 15 million target since first Sunk Ship is worth 20 million

    Source: Carl D'Angelo2019 IFPA Pin-Masters Qualifying | Day 1 | Second Session
  • factualmedium

    Black Rose settings were changed during the tournament to make the Paragon letters non-roving instead of roving.

    Source: Commentators observing mid-tournamentPart 07 | 2018-19 IFPA NA Championships & 2019 Women's World Championships

Recent Mentions (48)

  • Game Dan and Rick worked on together; had significant post wear and damage; currently owned by Rick after restoration.

    The Spinner Is Lit - Episode 60 Bye Bye 2023 (1)Dec 24, 2023
  • Pinball game with whirlpool lock mechanic, multiball with alternating ramps for sink ship letters; game five in open qualifying

    Episode 8 - Northwest Pinball and Arcade ShowJun 3, 2019
  • Game restored by Spencer and Rusty in a weekend, updated with LEDs and fresh Titan rubbers, planned for Golden State Pinball Festival

    episode 18. 4 weeks until springFeb 17, 2019
  • Classic DMD pinball game; Raymond Davidson's longest-owned machine; praised for depth and underappreciation; featured at Nationals tournament; has hidden treasure mode and complex multiball

    Episode 82 – Hold Up Your WeightMar 15, 2018
  • Pinball game selected by Raymond Davidson in Pinmasters finals, known for low scoring and difficult strategy

    Episode 1 - PinmastersApr 8, 2019
  • Zach's favorite machine in his collection; previously owned by Bruce, sold to Zach

    Episode 43 – Pinball Poetry

Contradictions

  • Existing: Black Rose is a 1992 Williams WPC game (from mention 5)vsConflicting: Mention 2 identifies Black Rose as a Williams game, but this contradicts mention 1 which describes it as a System 11 platform game serving as base for Wolfgang's Rocky Horror conversion. System 11 was used 1986-1991, not compatible with 1992 WPC timeline.
    Resolved
    kept_existing · Mar 2, 2026
  • Existing: Black Rose is a Williams game (mentions 2, 5, 17)vsConflicting: Black Rose is a Bally pinball machine (mention 18)
    Resolved
    kept_existing · Mar 3, 2026
  • Existing: Black Rose is a 1992 Valley Williams WPC game (mention 5)vsConflicting: Black Rose is described as a Bally pinball machine being remastered (mention 18)
    Resolved
    kept_existing · Mar 3, 2026

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  • attributeServed as mechanical base for Wolfgang's Rocky Horror conversionhigh
  • attributeOriginal backglass often compared to Richard Gere in draghigh
  • attributePirate-themed gamehigh
  • attributeFeatures cannon mechanichigh
  • statusPinball FX table scheduled for AtGames cabinet releasemediumfrom 2025-02
  • May 18, 2017
  • Raymond's first pinball machine ever owned; featured in Open entries; he achieved 137 million on first play, later 80 million

    Episode 14 - INDISC Part 1Jan 12, 2020
  • Vintage pinball; first machine owned by Ian; has Color DMD modification; used as example of location-based game with shallow rule set.

    Episode 4 Drew Wants a Willy!Apr 10, 2019
  • Pinball machine referenced for similar blended insert art issues as Theater of Magic; host expresses same collector fastidiousness about this feature

    The Pinball Show Ep 128 BONUS: Collectors Corner - Theatre Of MagicMay 23, 2023
  • Pinball machine used in later tournament play; 15 million target score; multiple strategic paths available

    2019 IFPA Pin-Masters Qualifying | Day 1 | Second SessionJun 2, 2020
  • Second game in pin golf rotation; 12 million target score; features ship sinking, broadside modes, middle scoop shots, and lock mechanics

    2019 IFPA Pin-Masters Qualifying | Day 1 | First SessionMay 30, 2020
  • Bally/Williams classic pinball machine; Raymond's first owned machine, same unit he played at Red Robin restaurant as a child

    Episode 46 – Bunghole CraneJun 8, 2017
  • Pirate-themed game with cannon shot and multiball; Raymond's favorite game, key to Maine division advancement

    Episode 15 - INDISC Part 2Jan 20, 2020
  • Stern pinball machine featuring Sink Ship multiball mode, roving/non-roving Paragon letters, whirlpool shots, and various modes

    Part 07 | 2018-19 IFPA NA Championships & 2019 Women's World ChampionshipsMay 25, 2020
  • Pinball machine Ron has worked on with full LED conversion and OCD board installation

    Episode 144 – Protect YourselfApr 23, 2020
  • Classic late-80s/early-90s game; one of Raymond's favorite machines; features cannon, multiball, ship-sinking mechanics; he personally owns one that was purchased from a Yakima, WA operator

    Ep 48: RayDay!Nov 18, 2020
  • Pinball machine in tournament pool with ball save that couldn't be disabled

    IFPA 2018 National and Women's World Championships - Part 3 of 10May 9, 2018
  • WPC89 game compatible with Rocket CPU

    PinSound RocketCPU - Unboxing and InstallMar 17, 2022
  • Classic pinball game featured in Brian Allen's Mashup Volume 2

    Brian Allen Pinball Mashup Volume 2 is Here!Aug 18, 2021
  • Original pinball machine (1992, Data East) that served as the base playfield for the Rocky Horror Picture Show conversion; purchased twice to preserve one example.

    EPC2025 - Wolfgang Grauvogl - Pinball NewsJun 1, 2025
  • Pinball machine referenced for skill shot mechanics similar to Led Zeppelin's potential power plunge design

    #36 - Led Zeppelin Dropped, Let's Talk About ItDec 16, 2020
  • Vintage pinball machine owned by Matt; primary focus of Don's comedic desperation in episode; estimated value ~$9,600-$10,000; subject of 'Pinlympics' joke about Olympic inclusion using Godzilla instead

    Godzilla 70th | Pinlympics 2028 | Don Schemes to Keep Black RoseSep 6, 2024
  • Pinball machine mentioned as having instant reset capability like Johnny Mnemonic

    The Data Glove, Strats, Code, and J’s Hackstory…Oct 30, 2024
  • 1992 Williams pirate-themed pinball machine; features physical cannon mechanic; in exceptional condition; at center of episode's emotional narrative

    Kissed by Black Rose…. How to Break Up With a Game :’(Aug 15, 2024
  • Pinball game featured in Cardona Pinball 2.0 upgrade kit demo at PinFest

    BONUS X!! Who is the Rizzler of Pinball??Jun 13, 2024
  • Pinball machine owned by Glenn; located in his shedcade; Glenn unable to access backbox due to missing key

    Between Two Sterns with Glenn Waechter and Saw Homebrew!Aug 31, 2024
  • Original classic Bally pinball machine from 1992 (implied), featuring cannon-based gameplay and pirate theme. Subject of Skull and Bones conversion kit.

    BLACK ROSE: SKULL AND BONES REVIEWMar 11, 2024
  • Pirate-themed game referenced for long two-wire wireform ramp comparison to Godfather's wire form mechanics

    DPP #23 "Godfather initial impressions!!"Mar 7, 2023
  • Pirate-themed pinball machine purchased by Ian as his first new machine, became valuable/hot at one point allowing resale

    The Super Awesome Pinball Show - S01 E17Oct 21, 2020
  • Bally pinball machine being remastered for Williams Collection Volume 2 with 3D ship design and interactive elements

    Mel Kirk Interview: Volume TwoNov 14, 2018
  • Williams machine; has black flippers and black rubber making playfield difficult to see; cannon slightly off-level causing ball hop on broadside shot

    INDISC ActionJan 25, 2019
  • Zen FX table; challenging survival challenge with high variance in performance outcomes

    Data is KingFeb 21, 2019
  • Pinball table featuring broadside shot mechanic that Jared compares to Indy 500's long center shot

    Recommend Tables Like You Recommend Home Theatre Test MoviesJul 3, 2016
  • Pinball machine where Raymond dominated in casual play (135 million)

    Triple Drain Pinball Podcast Ep 3: RayDay Is Our Ball To GoJun 30, 2021
  • Raymond Davidson favorite; second Cardona 2.0 release with new treasure collection/cashing system, dual wizard modes, and LCD strategy screen

    Episode 386: Cardona PinballJan 18, 2024
  • Early Brian Eddy software work (1992); praised for quality code

    We Are Pinball #19 "Let's talk D&D!"Jan 5, 2025
  • Pinball machine used at Pin Masters with tilt bob calibration issue during tournament

    Episode 212: Josh Sharpe, the 2019 Pinburgh winner (remind me to edit later)Jul 30, 2019
  • Early-1990s Williams game that shipped with lightning flippers in European market only; hosts discuss how dangerous center ramp rejects would be with lightning flippers

    Episode 1 - Lightning FlippersOct 23, 2023
  • Davidson's first-ever pinball game; still owns it; considers it special, wouldn't sell

    Episode 60: Raymond Davidson, IFPA 14 ChampJul 25, 2017
  • Pinball machine Jamie bought broken for $1,500 and fixed; first machine Jamie restored during pandemic

    Pirate Princess Jess - Episode 76Nov 12, 2025
  • Visible in announcement video manual sequence; future release candidate

    And the WMS License Goes To… Zen Studios!Sep 4, 2018
  • Pinball FX table scheduled for February AtGames cabinet release after Star Wars content schedule revision

    Spin the wheel of topicsFeb 17, 2025
  • 1992 Valley Williams WPC game; subject of tech support call regarding lamp matrix issues; features cannon mechanism and video modes

    TOPCast 41: Tech showJun 30, 2007
  • Pirate-themed game with cannon mechanic and ship-sinking multiball; featured as Trent's play of the week; described as sleeper with novelty gameplay

    TOPCast 16: Tech showMar 18, 2007
  • Thematic reference to significant game loss experience mentioned by co-host

    F**k Lightning Flippers | Pinball School with DraculaDec 4, 2025
  • Williams game featuring original backglass often compared to Richard Gere in drag; Allen created alternative version with pirates/skeletons theme

    Redefining Classic Bally Williams Art | Brian Allen Flyland DesignsAug 26, 2025
  • Original pinball game (System 11 platform) that serves as the mechanical/hardware base for Wolfgang's Rocky Horror conversion

    Episode 424: Rocky Horror PinballSep 10, 2025
  • Machine with high score trophy award

    Episode 105 – Planes, Cows and Pinball MachinesAug 19, 2019