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Saturday Morning Metallica Spectacular (AUDIO)

Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)·podcast_episode·1h 5m·analyzed·Oct 27, 2024
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TL;DR

Kaneda's Metallica giveaway show contrasts strong LE demand with market oversaturation and industry pricing tensions.

Summary

Kaneda hosts a Saturday Morning Metallica Spectacular with a giveaway of a Metallica LE Remastered at MSRP to a Kaneda Club member, while discussing broader pinball market dynamics. He contrasts Metallica (LE) success (limited to 500 units, strong secondary market demand) with Avatar's disappointing reception, analyzes Jersey Jack's mechanical design shortcomings across recent releases, and speculates on Back to the Future licensing with preference for Stern over Jersey Jack. Kaneda also critiques the pinball industry's MSRP pricing rigidity, dealer inventory issues, and acknowledges community backlash against speculation/flipping.

Key Claims

  • Metallica LE Remastered is the best Stern launch since Godzilla, with demand greater than Godzilla had.

    medium confidence · Kaneda's assessment based on secondary market activity and pre-order interest

  • Only 500 Metallica LE units were produced, a smart move by Stern to restore FOMO.

    high confidence · Kaneda, stated as known fact about production numbers

  • Metallica LE will never sell for less than $13,000 on the secondary market.

    medium confidence · Kaneda's market prediction; he notes offers north of $17,000 for his personal unit

  • Avatar hasn't caught on and needs major software improvements; the lower playfields are underwhelming.

    medium confidence · Kaneda's opinion on game design and market reception

  • Jersey Jack has not made a 'killer mech' game since Pirates of the Caribbean (six years, five games ago).

    medium confidence · Kaneda's assessment of JJP's recent mechanical design quality

  • Dealers are holding significant inventory (e.g., one dealer with ~100 GNR LEs in boxes) that cannot be publicly discounted.

    medium confidence · Kaneda reporting on industry inventory situation and price floor enforcement

  • There are thousands of unsold games in the pinball industry currently in inventory.

    medium confidence · Kaneda's observation of market saturation; plans to discuss this in upcoming episodes

  • Tron LE was produced in 400 units (not 500 as some recall) with no premium tier.

    medium confidence · Kaneda asserting his pinball history knowledge, though inviting correction

Notable Quotes

  • “I think the demand for Metallica Remastered LE is actually greater than the demand was for Godzilla. I think only making 500 was a very smart move by Stern Pinball.”

    Kaneda @ early in episode — Core thesis on Metallica LE success; Kaneda argues scarcity drives FOMO and value

  • “I don't think it's ever going to sell for less than $13,000... I've had offers north of $17,000 for the game I'm about to give someone here for $13,000.”

    Kaneda @ early-mid episode — Evidence of strong secondary market pricing and Kaneda's willingness to leave profit on table for community goodwill

  • “I think the game just needs to wake up in the software department. I think Keith Johnston has coded a game that has a lot in it, but I don't think it has a lot of feels and a lot of emotion and a lot of energy.”

    Kaneda @ mid episode — Critique of Avatar's code design; suggests design-level, not mechanical, problem

  • “I just don't see Jersey Jack engineering these killer mech games and I've lost faith that they will do that. Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me three, four, five times now.”

    Kaneda @ mid episode — Damning assessment of JJP's recent mechanical innovation across five consecutive games

  • “The pinball industry needs to more reflect a car dealership where last year's model is discounted, right? And two years ago, even more discounted.”

    Kaneda @ mid-late episode — Critique of MSRP pricing rigidity and suggestion for market-based pricing model

  • “Stern making Metallica Remastered, I think has people super excited, super nervous at the same time. If you own a Tron LE right now, you're part of a special club.”

    Kaneda @ late episode — Acknowledges tension between new remasters and original LE owners; cautions Stern about devaluing legacy products

  • “I think Stern would be the smarter move. I think Stern can make thousands of them in a year. Jersey Jack couldn't.”

    Kaneda @ late episode — On Back to the Future licensing: production capacity argument for Stern over JJP

Entities

KanedapersonMetallica RemasteredproductAvatargameKeith JohnstonpersonJersey Jack PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyHarry Potter

Signals

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern's decision to limit Metallica LE Remastered to 500 units (vs. typical 1,000) is credited with restoring FOMO and secondary market premium. Kaneda contrasts this with oversupply of John Wick (1,000 LE) which destroyed value.

    high · Kaneda: 'only making 500 was a very smart move by Stern Pinball... They've restored sort of the FOMO and the frenzy'

  • $

    market_signal: Metallica LE secondary market pricing at $13,000-$17,000+ (well above MSRP); Kaneda received $17,000+ offers but pricing game at MSRP ($13,000) for giveaway. Market significantly outpaces manufactured scarcity for this title.

    high · Kaneda: 'I've had offers north of $17,000 for the game I'm about to give someone here for $13,000'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Avatar (Jersey Jack) experiencing weak market reception post-launch. Kaneda notes consumers not ordering left and right, code lacks emotional resonance, mechanical design (lower playfields) underwhelming. Sharp contrast to pre-release expectations.

    high · Kaneda: 'Avatar hasn't really caught on... the game just needs to wake up in the software department... I think the lower playfields are underwhelming'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Kaneda critiques Avatar's designer (Keith Johnston) for prioritizing code complexity over emotional resonance and mechanical 'wow' factor. Suggests design philosophy prioritized ruleset depth at expense of player excitement.

    medium · Kaneda: 'Keith Johnston has coded a game that has a lot in it, but I don't think it has a lot of feels and a lot of emotion and a lot of energy'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Kaneda advocates for Stern designer Keith Elwin over Jersey Jack staff to design Back to the Future; questions JJP decision-maker Barry Laws' design ego vs. business pragmatism.

Transcript

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Welcome everybody to the Kaneda Saturday Morning Metallica Spectacular. The One lucky club member who is a member of the Kaneda Club is going to get a chance to buy a Metallica LE remastered for MSRP. The rules are very simple. You have to have been a Kaneda Club member before entering. You have to give me your name and phone number, and then you have to pick up your phone when we pull your name out of a hat. I'm looking at right If all more people are interested inwhat happens to spin true spin will, worrying schedule cancels, very simple reason not to steal. 3111418 after 15 tavalla convalescepre recipe. Magnus Ragnar- I day by day will show you how to succed in spin hvis you join the circus to the gays then sство allkayland�テフ styles with my spin. дж Bond St. Pgidrit Always what matters is to succeed. Be a large time fan of my tips and becomes a wizard coach. I play Skiesman the tape willverlet and khyôi meerkal for our fantasy sports. 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Now, if you're on Facebook, you can come over to the YouTube channel. It is also public. Let me post it in the page two so people know they can go there. Let me just go on Facebook right now and let everybody know we're also on YouTube and we're going to have some fun today. We're going to also talk about what's going on in the hobby because we're not doing the drawing until 11 o'clock. So I am hopefully, Killian will be back from the supermarket because I would love for him to be the one who pulls the name out of the hat. So that's going to be a lot of fun. We're also on YouTube. Yay! Let's post that. And we might have a surprise guest join the show today. We'll see what happens. Yeah, so thanks what I shared about Back to the Future. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about everything going on in pinball. It's what we do on Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. I'm super happy to spend that time at Expo and meet people and hear rumors and sort of get ready for the next wave of games in pinball. And I think everyone is sort of feeling that right now. Like we're kind of in that little bit of a limbo period. Avatar hasn't really caught on. Cod on! People are not loving the game and ordering it left and right. Unless your name's Joe Abadie, you're not going to bat for Avatar. As you know, I think the game just needs to wake up in the software department. I think Keith Johnston has coded a game that has a lot, I think, in it, but I don't think it has a lot of feels and a lot of emotion and a lot of energy and a lot of excitement. The American I don't even think the Hallelujah Mountains make anybody feel anything. And I also think the game just didn't put mechanical wow in it at all. I think the lower playfields are underwhelming. I think that there should have been more of an upper playfield, Hallelujah Mountains I think they should have done something similar to the Star Wars hyperdrive, right? Like they should have had something where it felt like you were getting on a Banshee and you were flying around Pandora. And so much of the game is just like not, right? Translating that. So look, the consumers are speaking. It's not just Kaneda. I think a lot of people out there are realizing too that, you know, those $15,000 CEs of Avatar The Avatar is coming out in the spring of next year. The Avatar is coming out in the spring of next year. And Harry Potter is coming out. So I keep telling everybody, look, if you like Avatar, just wait. They're going to make a thousand of those CEs and you're going to be able to pick one up at a wholesale price. And why wouldn't you just, if you really want an Avatar CE, why wouldn't you just wait and save like $3,000 to $5,000? Now, a tale of two games because the one game that's going in the opposite direction is Metallica LE. This game is probably the best Stern launch since Godzilla. I think the demand for Metallica remastered LE is actually greater than the demand was for Godzilla. I think only making 500 was a very smart move by Stern Pinball. In just one move, they've restored sort of the FOMO and the frenzy and the excitement around in L.E. And they really needed to do that, right? We hadn't felt that with John Wick. We didn't feel it with Venom. Jaws was like, all right, but not really hard. It was not hard to get a Jaws L.E. Now I'm seeing Jaws LEs sell for $12,000, $11,500. Again, they're losing value. There's just no way around it. They're losing value. But Metallica LE, I don't think it's ever going to sell for less than $13,000. I've had offers north of $17,000 for the game I'm about to give someone here for $13,000. It's interesting. I just want to just say this for the record. I literally left $5,000 on the table with this game. I charge people $5 a month to do a podcast. When you sell a game like this, you're not declaring these things on your taxes when you do a scalp. Legitimately, one sale of a Metallica LE for me is equivalent to all the hard work I do This continued during the first half of this upcoming semifinal. Nineteen two! We are ahead of movement. Now I heavy relax and refer the final report to VOIP P minutae has analyzed here and said that he takes 50 minutes to complete each. You know how much money you know dealers and distros can make you come on you know there's dealers out there gang who are holding some of these back and in a month or two oh look what I got new in box Metallica LE $19,000 and that's what's gonna happen look and and Stern can't stop it it's it's a market adjusted price and I would say the market price on this game is north of $17,000 right now and look I think it's a good thing because I think most people who buy this game are big fans. They were fans of the original. I think the value of the originals is going to go down for sure. And as I told my friends at Stern Pinball, I think next time they do this, the smart move would have been to try to identify diehard Metallica fans who bought the original one and still own it after 12 years. Those people should have had first dibs at the new game. I think a lot of them sort of waited on the sideline and pretended their Dirty Donny version is nicer. It's not. And now it's too late for a lot of them. I think they all should have listened to Kaneda and just got their name on a list. Look, if you got one and you just listened to me, I just handed you $5,000. It legitimately, there's no other way to cut this. I just handed you a $5,000 stock tip that you could exercise all day long, so you're welcome. And I think people got confused about my wait and see sort of approach to pinball. Yeah, wait and see on almost everything. I always say this, on almost everything. But don't wait and see on a super hot game like this because you're going to get locked out, you're going to regret it, and the only way you're going to be able to get one is Voice Over Dan The Spike 3 is coming. So when Spike 3 comes and Spike 3 enhances, you know, what a Stern experience is, better sound, better lights, better screen, better everything, better internet connectivity, everything's gonna be better. I think that's gonna knock Metallica down a little bit, right? I think people are gonna have hoped it would have been the first Spike 3 game. It was planned to be the first Spike 3 game, but, you know, they didn't have it ready in time. I still think Spike 3, King Kong, Keith Elwin is what's going to happen. And Brian Eddy's Dungeons and Dragons will be next. We talked on my show this week about Back to the Future and how Dutch Pinball would have a Herculean task to fulfill the demand for the orders they would get for Back to the Future. Yes, Dutch has been talking to Stern, to Jersey Jack. They've been seen in the building.

  • “You don't get to do that. You just don't get to like mislead people when you should have known better... I think they have tremendous egos. I think they're very entitled and I think they're very angry.”

    Kaneda @ very late episode — Criticism of industry figures (Marty Robbins/Jeff/others) re: Haggis Pinball collapse and accountability

    • game
    Back to the Futuregame
    Keith Elwinperson
    Barry Lawsperson
    Guns N' Rosesgame
    Trongame
    John Wickgame
    Venomgame
    Jawsgame
    Godzillagame
    Pirates of the Caribbeangame
    Elton Johngame
    The Godfathergame
    Toy Storygame
    Ultramangame
    Marty Robbinsperson
    Haggis Pinballcompany
    Dutch Pinballcompany
    American Pinballcompany

    medium · Kaneda: 'If Barry were smart, he'd ink a good deal, make money on every game sold... But I don't think he's as good as Keith Elwin'

  • ?

    machine_intel: Back to the Future pinball is in active licensing negotiations. Stern, Jersey Jack, and Dutch Pinball have all met with IP holder Barry Laws. Kaneda advocates for Stern + Elwin combination.

    medium · Kaneda: 'Dutch has been talking to Stern, to Jersey Jack. They've been seen in the building... I think Stern should make the game'

  • $

    market_signal: Pinball industry facing significant inventory oversaturation. Thousands of unsold games in warehouses; dealers holding ~100 GNR LE units in boxes unable to publicly discount. MSRP price floors enforced despite weak secondary demand.

    high · Kaneda: 'there's thousands of unsold games... I know a dealer that's got a hundred GNR LEs in a box... they can't publicly list these games for sale'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Pinball manufacturers enforce MSRP floors preventing dealers from discounting old stock. Kaneda argues for car dealership model where year-old models receive automatic discounts. Current model creates disingenuous workarounds (streaming used games before resale).

    high · Kaneda: 'if Jersey Jack is telling dealers you can't advertise GNR for less than $10,500 but the market value for one is $7,500, I think it gets a little silly'

  • ?

    product_concern: Jersey Jack criticized for lack of 'killer mech' innovation across five consecutive games (Toy Story, Godfather, Guns N' Roses, Elton John, Avatar). Last noted success: Pirates of the Caribbean (6 years ago). Suggests systemic design resource or methodology problem.

    medium · Kaneda: 'I just don't see Jersey Jack engineering these killer mech games... Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me three, four, five times now'

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball community expressing fatigue with speculation/flipping. Kaneda reports hearing this 'loud and clear' after prior episodes discussing his own profitable trades. Acknowledges responsibility as media figure to set ethical example; giveaway at MSRP reflects community pressure.

    high · Kaneda: 'everyone was happy to see me lose like $2,000 on Toy Story... I do have a responsibility to set an example... everyone is kind of over the world of scalping'

  • ?

    regulatory_signal: Kaneda criticizes Haggis Pinball/Marty Robbins for lack of accountability following company collapse. Accuses associates of misleading customers, ego-driven behavior, entitlement, and anger toward community criticism. Calls for transparency from industry figures.

    medium · Kaneda: 'You don't get to do that... mislead people when you should have known better... I think they have tremendous egos... I think they're very entitled and very angry'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Metallica LE Remastered creating uncertainty for original Tron LE owners (400 units, exclusive Daft Punk multiball). Kaneda advises Stern to limit future remasters to 400 units and offer original owners matching-numbered units to preserve exclusivity and legacy value.

    medium · Kaneda: 'If Stern is going to make another run... I would do 400 new Trons. I think you gotta keep the numbers consistent... Wouldn't make a thousand even though demand is there'

    • 11:15
    And you know me, I think Stern should make the game. I think Barry would be a hero, and I think that's the right thing to do. I don't think Jersey Jack would make a better Back to the Future than Stern. And if Stern had one of their amazing designers like Danger or Elwin do it, I think a modern day classic would be born. If Jersey Jack did it, I just don't know. Maybe Steve Ritchie would be the one to go with, but I'm not sure, even with Steve, you know, Elton John is kind of a recycled idea of older games. We haven't seen Steve really wow us in a really long time. He played a safe bet with Elton. It's a bet that worked. It's a great game. The best shooting jersey jack game of all time. But it's just the way it goes. I want to see Steve do something along the lines of ACDC again. Or something along the lines of the last Richie game. I just think Elwin is so good. I think Danger is just so good. So someone says, J.J.P. actually puts the money in though. I think JJP will surprise us with a killer mech with Harry Potter and Back to the Future. Well, I don't know man, I don't know. It's yet to be seen. What's the killer mech in Toy Story? What's the killer mech in The Godfather? What's the killer mech in Elton John? What's the killer mech in Avatar? You could even argue what's the killer mech in Guns N' Roses. I don't think Jersey Jack has made a killer mech since Pirates of the Caribbean. That's six years ago, gang. And that's five games ago. And so I just don't see it. Like I just don't see Jersey Jack engineering these killer mech games and I've lost faith that they will do that. I mean fool me once, fool me twice, fool me three, four, five times now. And it is a little confusing to me with the amount of money and the amount of resources www.willywonka.com We're going to go like this so you can see a little bit more Neo. I love my setup. I'm on my living room table and I've got the names, people. The names, you're like, Kaneda, shut up. Like let's get to this drawing. You're going to get your name put in a hat. We've got my Kaneda hat and let's read out the names. I got to do, I got to cut these suckers up because I didn't do that yet. So I want to do this real quick and wish everybody sort of good luck on this. Well, let's do this in 10 minutes. I'll do this in 10 minutes because we've got 40 minutes to go before we do the drawing. Here's my take on everything happening in pinball. Prices are still sky high, right? They're really high. Jersey Jack, Harry Potter is, I think, going to be the moment in which they either nail All right. Let us know in the comments. I'm done. I said it. I'm not buying another Jersey Jack machine where the voices and the sound effects are not synced up with the clips. I just won't do it. You know, it's like a little bit of Godfather has it, but not a lot. Willy Wonka doesn't have it. Guns N' Roses has it. Guns N' Roses to me will, I think there's, look, there's a reason why Guns N' Roses sold like five, six thousand units. It's kind of perfect. Say what you will about the layout. I get it. It's a little bit more of a stop and go game. It doesn't have the flow of a Stern. But when you really understand GNR and you understand like how to set up the game right and how to achieve things so when you start a song, you've got everything ready to go. You collect the band members. You get to band frenzy. You get to encore. You know there always a great moment in Guns N Roses whenever you play it where you trying to get to the applause jackpot right It very similar to the eclipse jackpot in Avatar You build it all up during the song and then you got to hit that shot as the song is ending and it awesome And if you hit it, you go to encore and then you play another song from that album and the crowd's cheering and the lights are going. It's great. It's a great moment. I mean, I love, love, love, love playing my Guns N' Roses. I'm never selling it. Yeah, I get it. The market has sort of fallen out from underneath it simply because they made too many. I think Jersey Jack overproduced the game for sure. Harry Potter I know is a monster theme, but as a holder fantasy nerd, it doesn't hit for me. The thing about Potter is this. Like, let's be honest, people. Like, how many adults our age, are we really the Potter demographic? I'm not. I mean, I didn't read the books. I saw all the movies, but like Potter to me was like movies that I saw and I didn't need to see them again. Like I saw everyone. I saw everyone in the theater and they were they were enjoyable. I was entertained. I thought the actors were great. I thought they brought that world to life in such a good way. But it doesn't stick with me culturally the way Han Solo does or Luke Skywalker or Optimus Prime or Galvatron and Megatron. You know, it just doesn't. I just, He-Man, like I just, I don't know, when I think about things that the moment I see them or hear them, it awakens something in me. And look, I'm not saying that some people, yeah, they're all in on Potter. I just don't know if the 40 to 60 year old demographic is as into it as people think. So we shall see. You know, look, I'm more into Goonies and Back to the Future. I'm more into a Cobra Kai, Karate Kid. I'm more into Die Hard, Total Recall. You know, give me a Von Dom game. Give me Big Trouble in Little China. Give me Fifth Element. Give me Matrix. You know, these are the things that, like, all right, that have much more connection with me. I mean, from what I can tell, Harry Potter, like, Voldemort, like, it's just this long, drawn out narrative, or him versus evil, how he got the scar on his head. It's cute. It's campy. It's fun. It's good. I'm just not sure that people are gonna, you know, I don't know. I really don't know. I don't know if it's gonna be based on the movies. It feels like, again, a Herculean task to take all those like eight or nine movies and make it a pinball machine. I mean, Keith already just makes one or two movies into a ginormous Chinese diner menu of how to play a game. I feel like our heads are gonna be spinning With how much Jersey Jack tries to cram into Harry Potter.
    19:26
    So, you know, I, um, I've sort of like love where we're all at now in pinball, because I think the community for the most part is really connected. I think a lot of the newbies who came in during COVID, I think they've all been burned, right? I think they've all learned a lesson. You know, I see these guys, you know who they are. I don't have to name names, but they came into pinball during COVID. They got bit by the bug. They bought every game as it came out, and then they sold games and made humongous losses on their spreadsheet. And they didn't even play the games that much. They didn't enjoy the games nearly enough to take the losses that they took. And the little dirty secret about the hobby that we're all in right now, gang, is that There's thousands of unsold games. And one of the show topics I'm going to be discussing over the next few weeks, as we think about what do you do with all that unsold inventory, something's got to give, right? This map pricing model, it's again, like it's not working. Like you got these dealers with Venom LEs in box. I know a dealer that's got a hundred GNR LEs in a box. The thing is they can't publicly list these games for sale. I think the pinball industry needs to more reflect a car dealership where last year's model is discounted, right? And two years ago, even more discounted. Guns N' Roses is almost a four-year-old model of a pinball machine. And you know if Jersey Jack is telling dealers you can't advertise GNR for less than $10,500 but the market value for one is $7,500, I think it gets a little silly. And then dealers have to have their friends list the games for sale and it's all disingenuous a little bit. Or dealers have to open up the game and stream it and then sell it used. We see that a lot, like streaming a game and then, you know, because they have to, because they're not allowed to sell it at a discount. You know, the only company I saw put their games on sale was AP. I mean, we know they need to sell their games and they got to clear out that inventory. You know, the hard part is like, it's because a company that does it, I think what makes The Gold……….
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    이촜 John Wick, a thousand LEs, it's just like a boneheaded move. Like, you didn't do any market research, you just put the next title into the same playbook and thought that the defense wouldn't intercept. And man, did the community intercept that move and destroy the value of John Wick LEs. Now Stern making old titles, Chad just said this on Facebook. I think, you know, what we've seen with Metallica, I think has people super excited, super nervous at the same time. If you own a Tron LE right now, and this is what I'm really imploring that George and Seth really think about. If you own a Tron LE right now, you're part of a special club. I believe they only made 400 Tron LEs. I think Tron was 400, not 500. Correct me if I'm wrong, people. I'm pretty good at my pinball history. You know, I'm pretty good. Sometimes when I talk to people at Stern, I'm like, I'm telling them what they did. They're like, no, I don't even think they were numbered. Yeah, they were numbered. You know, sometimes they say stuff and I'm like, do you not know your own product history? I think Tron was 400 or was it 500? Someone let me know. Someone here must have one. So the special thing about Tron is when they made Tron LE, there was no premium, right? Yeti gotta remember like what that means. It's like this is it. Like this is it. So there was 400 and there was no premium and it had like the fiber optic ramps and it had an exclusive Daft Punk multiball. Now think about Stern since then. Have they ever given people like a real exclusive gameplay experience in the software for buying an LE? And I think that's one of the reasons why Tron LE is so damn like coveted because it's like you either have that experience, 400 people on the planet have it and nobody else does. And then you go from the LE to the pro and they never screwed over the LE buyers by making premiums. You know, remember when they did Walking Dead LE and no premium and they said they were never making premiums and then they did? Remember what that did to the Walking Dead collectors at that time? And so if Stern is going to make another run, what I would do if I were them is I would do 400 new trons. I think you got to keep the numbers consistent. I think you got to give original owners a chance to have matching number of games. That's how I would do it. I wouldn't make a thousand even though the demand is there. Again, just make it special. And what Stern can now do as they see the feeding frenzy for Metallica, I know this is not going to be popular with some people right now, but the truth is this. Metallica LE could have been more than 13 and they still would have sold every one. And in a weird way, they could have priced it, You know, even higher because it is more special than a John Wick LE or a Venom LE or a James Bond LE and a Foo Fighters LE. I think what they should have done, I think what they should have done, because now that you've got this, you know, a plethora of games at a thousand LEs, doesn't 500 become a super LE? Right? Just think about that for a minute. Like, 500 now is super limited in a world where everything else has a thousand. And so I think they could have done something like that. And I also think, you know, make it a real SLE of Metallica. It should have an exclusive topper. It should come with exclusive songs. It should come with stuff that maybe is just not in the premium of the game. And I think if you did that and you really made it awesome like that, and again, like get James or Lars to do a personal call out, like, are you ready to rock, Kaneda? Like they could have done that. Like they could have done that the way they did it with, you know, Adam West and Batman with unique call outs. So when people say, please don't encourage higher prices. So Josh, the truth is I'm just looking at the market, my friend. I'm looking at the market and I'm looking at like who buys these things and there is an opportunity. You know, and again, look, Stern's got to find that balancing act. You know, they don't want to charge too much and remove all the secondhand value. Who's, what's the agenda? Are we buying as an investment or just buying the game we want? Which is it? It can't be both. Why not, Mark? Mark, I don't understand that. Mark just said, are we buying it as an investment or are we buying a game we want? It can't be both. Absolutely it can be both. Mark, why can't you buy a game you really want, play it for a few years, and move it on for a lot of money because it was a good investment at the same time? I really love my Dodge Demon and it's held value, it's gone up a little bit, but I'm happy that if I ever need the money, right, something could happen in life and I need to free up $100,000, I could go sell it. Versus my friends who just bought electric Porsches and they spent $150,000 on a Taycan GTS and now it's worth like $90,000. They lost $60,000. We both love cars, we both love what we're driving, but one was just a better investment. I think those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive of each other. They should have only made Metallica Remastered unlimited. No, I don't agree, Louis. I don't agree. I don't know why there's such an anger towards these collectible versions of things. It's healthy for this hobby. It's been what's pulled Stern through all these years. Stern shouldn't care about the secondhand value. That's not their problem. eni�문과 češtěТ Nicht-Nor manifesto grandson, Weimar Brinkler, Yeshua Zob $1. marsh alla P conventione, Mar meses sobre la Innovación scripts, On comercio y Reyes carreters, At completo aparat más En fin, no Squisi, que tengo fråga, about aット $30 Forum en estaba desepe en 말 proteinista. Tengo cu unemployed amigos que no los Le eles more apoyan la innovación en el Pastor, pero solo por un membro, Y que no los the suos, pieces de energía So, you would understand in a heartbeat why the car is worth $100,000. Go inside a $100,000 BMW, Mercedes, Audi, which you can easily get those cars north of $100,000 and you won't even have half the thrill of driving a Dodge Demon. Just trust me man. Anyone, there's an ignorance in the car world that the Dodge Demon isn't worth the money and then I take people for rides and I'm talking about people who have exotics, who have Rolls Then there's the other two pros. If you're a car enthusiast, you know how to appreciate what each company is putting on the table. If Stern allowed dealers to discount models after years, does that affect the standard production quantities? I don't know. I don't know. I don't I think not. I think, you know, I think there's a there's a there's a tidal wave coming where there's just so many games in boxes sitting in a warehouse in Chicago. Where are those games going to go? I mean, that's the question. I'm just curious, like, where are they going to go? Who are they going to go to? And when that does happen and we oversaturate the market, I think it's going to be a pretty rough period. And, you know, like I think people are just out of room. I don't know about you guys, but like I'm out of room already. I got maybe room for one more pin upstairs. I could probably sneak one into the garage. But how many of you, like raise of hands, are just out of room? You need to sell a game to bring a new one in. And that's probably more of the issue for people than money. Absolutely. It's harder for operators to make money with games costing so much, so it's an interesting time in pinball. It's an interesting time in pinball. I'll say this. As I get older and hopefully a little bit wiser and I realize some of the mistakes of a younger version of me, I'm sort of over the whole collecting and having just stuff to flex and thinking that, John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, State Bank, Knapp Arcade, The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow Scott Danesi John Popadiuk Bob Betor Knapp Arcade The Valley Company Subsidiary of Walter Kidde Co Inc Even the Neo Geo I bought too many of them I don need three four of them You know I started to collect all the different cabs and then I didn care anymore because the community that loves Neo Geo they all bitter a anyway Like they just, they come at you with jealousy, envy and hate. Like legitimately, I tried to sell my SC-19 which is the bigger version of this for like $6,500 and everyone on Facebook is telling me I'm an idiot, I'm a moron, that's too much, you know, it's too much for it. And I've got a guy in Kuwait that wants to wire me $11,000 for it. I just don't want to sell it to someone in Kuwait and DHL shipping and customs. I don't want to sell it like that because if anything happens to it and then he does like a charge back through like eBay and then the eBay fees and then what? I've got this busted up unit and I'm going to have to deal with... I want someone to pull up here with cash in hand and put it in the back of their truck and take it home and enjoy it. That's that who keeps saying we love Trump. Like this is not this is a weird is this like a spam? Let's get Trent Briggs verified. Who? Trent, you're going. We're moderating you, OK? Let's we're going to put you on a timeout for 10 minutes because this isn't like a political page. This is a pinball chat.
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    Vote for who you want, people. I think we're kind of in trouble, maybe a little bit either way. It just is what it is. All right, so let's read the names. Let's get them in the hat. Let's read the names. I wanna say congratulations to everybody that followed the rules. I told you how to do it. It was very simple.
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    I'm just gonna say this. Let's just go down and read all the names, and then I'm gonna cut them up, And we're going to put them in the hat. How's that sound? All right. All right. So here are your contestants for the Metallica Limited Edition. It is this game is coming from I will connect you with how to get this game afterwards. I'm waiting for Killian to pull the name out of the hat at 11 o'clock tentatively tentatively if he's home by then. I will use Brenda's phone to call the winner. They you know, and we're going to do it that way. It's going to be fun. I'm not even going to announce the winner. I'm going to call the number first so we can announce the name live as he or she picks up. I don't think there's a single woman on this list. As I always say, women are too smart to drop $13,000 on pinball machines. Um, did I say anything about Back to the Future?
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    I already talked about it a little bit. Um, Jersey Jack and Stern obviously would love to make the game. I think that, um, I think Stern would be the smarter move. I think Stern can make thousands of them in a year. Jersey Jack couldn't. And I think someone like Elwin would make it. Can you, like, think about it. Again, would you not want Keith Elwin to make Back to the Future? Who at Jersey Jack would make a better game than Keith Elwin? And look, it's all gonna come up to Barry now. And I think there's a combination of like, humbleness versus ego versus reality check for Barry. I don't know if he wants to be the designer and be pinball famous by making Back to the Future. I don't think he's as good as Keith Elwin. And I do think that if Barry were smart, he'd ink a good deal, make money on every game sold. It's a win-win-win for everybody, right? Everybody wins that way. So I just think that would be the way I would do it, but it's in his court. All of these companies are in his court. It's in his court. I know that every company would love to have the license. All right. So we got Robert, I'm going to read the names. Robert Caccini, hopefully I'm saying your names right. Joe Fiore, Jim Bond, who's in Tokyo. See, I got to see like gang, you international guys, like I don't know if they can ship internationally. I know Hector is on there internationally. So we'll have to figure this out. But I didn't exclude anybody who was not in the, who was global. All right, so like there's that I don't I don't know if there's anyone on here from Australia. So we've got Jerry Benny Richard Harris McLaughlin Kevin Smeenge Smeenge Steve Dobbins Tyson Hoffman Brian Millard Chris Greeney Zach Boot Camp Boot Camp Keith Gallacy if I butchered your names people sorry I mean it's Glenn Hanson Ryan Heath Adam Greer, Hector, Kastrahon, Patrick Oles, Willie Mitlai, Ray Ganbari, Nick Sagan, Mike Donk, Ryan Dexter, Lawrence Levine, Adam Fresselone, Pete Rosen, Pavel P, Jay McGuire, Dean Heinrichsen, Tom Pletcher, Mike...wait, wait, wait. Do we have two Heinrichsons? I thought I just said Heinrichson. Hold on. No. Heinrichson...oh, there's two different names. There's a Heinrichson and a Heinrexen. Different area codes. Sound familiar, but they're spelled differently. All right, Dana Martin, Enzo Ventrella, Greg Jones, Pete Maino, Will Ware, Ben DeLong, Kevin Peterson, Troy Swope, Craig Roth, Jeff Eppner, B. Escondari Nahidi, Anthony Salerno, Ryan Saunders, Rodney Komgiz, sorry Rodney, Jason Riffa, Chris Chapman, and Marty Robbins.
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    John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Knapp Arcade, I literally just the reason why I did the show I did about it this week is you don't get to do that. You just don't get to like mislead people when you should have known better and you did know better and then just get like, you know, forgiven and you get to come back and enjoy the hobby and just act like you were just an employee that didn't know what was going on. And I think what Jeff called all of us was really unprofessional, uncalled for. And I think it just shows the true nature of some of these gentlemen. I think they have tremendous egos. I think they're very entitled and I think they're very angry and I think they think they're better than us. I really do. When you call people unintelligent F heads, if you think Marty like had had anything to do with like the haggis is like collapse or or knowingly misled people. Come on, man. You did a show for a year where Marty dodged every single question about haggis. And not only that, he laughed in the face of people that were concerned about Haggis Pinball and their ability to manufacture games. I think they do live in a bubble and, you know, I again just had to call it like I saw it because it's not cool. And it just was a stupid show to do. It's like if you want Marty to come back, just come back and let him talk for himself. Hetman Nadeem On the fan page, this
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    is a graphic show featuring all 9 stars by delivery. We had made a lot of things in our hobby that really do hide behind our keyboard. really do hide behind our keyboard and just insult and we don't know who they are, they're kinda behind their avatar names, they don't really stand in front of their vitriol. and its gets a little tiring to dealing with it and I think there's no room for that anymore. I think if you kind of approach your life as like, how many days can I wake up in a good mood? You're not going to wake up and, you know, curse people out on pinball forums and all that stuff. Now that being said, if we're unintelligent F-heads because we think that, you know, one of two employees... The guy I want to talk to is that duck pinball guy. All those employees that quit Haggis, they quit the company, they knew what was going on, then why didn't Marty quit? That's really the easiest question. If everyone else saw that the house was on fire and exited the house, why didn't you? No. So, you stayed, you promoted the company, you convinced people to spend more money when everybody else was quitting. Okay? George Gomez is in the house. I told George to join. George, welcome to the Metallica LE sort of offer to a fan out there to get one at MSRP. George, welcome to the party. And, George, you're right. No good deed goes unpunished. I think sometimes too with all of what happens in pinball, and I mean this when I say it, when you take the tour of Stern and Jersey Jack and these, you see what goes into these games and you see the people that make them and the amount of work and the amount of effort and then how easy it is, right? How easy it is to unravel the joy this hobby brings everybody because you're at home and And you're unhappy and you're probably drinking and you're typing angrily. It's weird, right? It's weird. I think it makes everybody, especially at the pinball companies, sort of reluctant to engage as much as they want to. I remember walking through Stern and it was the day after Jack Danger had done the initial stream of X-Men and he was kind of all bummed out because they had done the stream, they were having fun with it. They dressed up in X-Men costumes and they were having some brutal games and the code was still early and it's just like, you know, it wasn't the best showing. And then Jack is just like deflated because he realized like, you know, people are not seeing like what the magic is and the magic is there. And so, you know, but he just had this look like he was just destroyed. And I'm like, man, like what? Like what? This is your moment, like, you know, and I can see how the community at times can weigh people down to the point where the very people that are giving everything they have to making people happy are just exhausted and feeling like they never win. So it's something interesting for all of us to think about. And I look, I struggle with this all the time on this show. I think my show's been an ever evolving journey, you know, to give constructive criticism or feedback. And I think when you do give constructive feedback, it's delivered without curses, without personal attacks. And I think when you give constructive feedback, it should be clear that you're giving this feedback on the game because you want to see the games get better. And you have a thought on how they could possibly improve the games or the marketing around pinball, right? I have a lot of thoughts on that. I have a lot of thoughts on these LEs and again, but when you approach it where you're trying to help, You know, I want Jersey Jack games to get better by integrating the clips in a better way. We know it can be done, right? Stern did it with Jaws. Why is Avatar all muted, right? And I mean that, like I'm not, I really like Mark Seiden. I think he's a great guy. I'm just perplexed how nobody gave that feedback internally over there, but I'm not gonna blame like or be angry. I just, just not the way I would have done it.
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    Alright, so we've got all these names, George going into a hat. You know, this is the hottest game in pinball in a long time. I think Metallica LE is the hottest launch I've seen since Godzilla. When Godzilla came out, a little history lesson for all of you out there, it was $10,500, right? George, cover your ears. How was Stern able to make that game with all that stuff for $10,500 and John Wick with half as much in it is $2,500 more? But see, it was kind of like that last 10-5 game and it was like awesome. I mean it's not just me saying this. Godzilla is ranked on the top 100 as number one, right? The number one game of all time ranked by the community came out at a great price. We used to complain 10k by Christmas. Remember when that was the joke? Now it's like 18k by Christmas with this Metallica. So it's like it came out at 10,500. They made 1,000 of them. They sold out. It wasn't impossible to get one. When they make 1,000, you can call around and get one. But here's what happened to Godzilla. That was right before COVID. Remember when the lockdown happened, right? And the supply shortage happened. Godzilla's instantly, like within a few months, a Godzilla LE after we realized, oh my gosh, this game is everything. Like it's got the moments, it's got the assets, it's got the personality, it's got the mechs, it's got the humor, it's got the, you know, the mod community has gone crazy. Like it was amazing to watch how everyone rallied around Godzilla, right? Rallied around the game. I think the only like controversy at launch was does Godzilla look like a watermelon and maybe a little bit, maybe zombiety don't kill me, maybe a little bit, maybe a little bit watermelon-y. But you know, we all got over that because it just looked great and when you stood over a Godzilla and you played it, I think it reminded everybody what they love so much about pinball And it had personality, the way you could change the audio to be in Japanese. It just Godzilla is just perfect It is a perfect example of translating a theme into a pinball game where there like George you always used to say this there gotta be like three interesting things to shoot at It has that. It's gotta have like, you know, call-outs that get your energy going. It has that. When a multiball starts, it has like this energy, right? And I, you know, like when, when Avatar multiball starts, I am in L. training perché período lançamento, hando está cow involved com Patience BRAVE here inludet todo oolr eu sempre per candle a féz beste nature 小 Hold Mente Coláctita vania workers and Index Crisprato ano ano bom And you're going to pick the winning name out of this Kaneda hat and I'm going to call the number and here's how it's going to work. You need to pick up the phone to win this spot, right? Not the game. I'm not buying you a game for $13,000. You will win this spot. I know there was some confusion there. Not going to give you a free game but this is going to be super fun and Killian is going Today's going to be the decider of somebody's fate. And gang, look, I hope whoever wins this. I just want to say this. I hope you don't sell it. I hope you really entered this because you are a Metallica fan. And I want to say thank you everyone that reached out and shared your personal stories about Metallica. Some of you had babies wearing Metallica clothing, you had game rooms filled with Metallica artwork and, you know, you really are in love with the band. And I think that to me is how every music pin should be, right? It's like I always say this, like out of all the pinball machines that have been made over the last like 10 years, music fans have really had it the best. I mean if you love ACDC, Guns N' Roses, Metallica, if you love Foo Fighters, if you love Elton John, if you love Iron Maiden, you know, if you love, what am I missing? I said ACDC, like if you love, I mean heck KISS, I even think Aerosmith, like talk about an awesome toy in a game. Like if you love those acts, you love the pinball machines. And the thing about music pins that I think make it easier to get it right is because the one thing you just have to do is play the damn music, right? It's not like stuff physically is missing that you want it in the game. Where a movie and TV show is different. Because when you make a pinball machine based on a movie, there's physical things you wanna see in there. So if you make Back to the Future, you gotta have a DeLorean where the doors go up, right? Or the clock tower. You gotta have a hoverboard. You gotta have maybe a Pepsi Perfect coming up from underneath the play field. There's certain things where like, Oh, if it doesn't have this, it's not connecting to the theme the right way. But music, just hit them with it and then do fun stuff. Killing, you getting ready, buddy? Hold on. We got three minutes to go. Mama, I need your phone. And then we're going to do this. I'm cutting up all the names and we're almost got everybody in the hat. You know, I think one of the coolest, you know, when I look at Guns N' Roses and Slash I'm going to get you up here. We're going to interview you for a little bit, okay? Are you ready to talk? You want to tell Mr. Gomez what you think about his LE? His LE? Hold on. We're going to get Killing It on the lap. Brendan, can I have the phone please? Don't touch, don't touch. Killing It, I like your gloves, your mittens. Okay, is this everybody? Okay. Okay, so I want you guys to see this. All the names are going in. Oh, I just knocked that over. All right, here we go. We're back. What are the names going in? Okay, the names, buddy, are going to go into the hat and we're going to pick... Brenda's handing me her phone. All the names are going in. Okay, so we're going to drop them all in. I'm going to move it around. And we're going to let Killian pick one out.
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    I wish I could give 47 people metallic LV. I... You know, George, we'll talk. I think Stern doing a lottery like this This would be a lot of fun and I think it would be a moment. I think you make the Stern lottery. You get Seth there and Gary and George with the big. Everyone gets their name on a ball and we pull out like ten names. Make it like an NBA draft lottery where you're in the draft and we can figure out different ways where you can increase the amount of odds of winning. I think it would be a lot of fun. All right, Kylian, here we go. You ready? I don't know why my boy has – it is 11 o'clock. I'm not missing any names. Come here. Come on. Sit up here. Stop it. Okay. Stop it. Yeah? Stop it. Kylian, how much do you think a pinball machine should cost? One. One dollar? Okay. So we've just put Stern Pinball and everybody else out of business. Kylian, do you like Metallica? Okay. That's good. That's good. Alright, Killian, you're going to pick out of your hat, this Kaneda hat, you're going to pick a name, alright? Now I want you to, we're going to move the names around, I'm not looking, I'm not looking. Alright, alright, I want you to pick, I want, one fell out, good job Brendan, put it back in, one fell out. Alright, okay, ready? Alright, okay. All right, here we go. Just pick one. Just one. Okay, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't show me who it is. All right, we have, we have one in hand. All right, now we are going to call. Killian, I want you, when I call this number, to say you won, okay? Can you do that? All right, we're going to call right now. Taking mommy's phone. This is fun, right? It's fun. This, this, you know, Killian doesn't come cheap. His hourly rate is about 10 times mine. We are... Well, I'm, you know, I'm on a roll. He's a great guy. I'm going to give him a point. He brings a level of adorableness to this and we're going to see if we have a winner. He's just loving his own reflection right now. All right. I got! Okay. Here we go. Okay. Say, you won. Mr. President? You won! Oh, thank you very much! I'm so stoked! All right. Thank you. Alright, so our winner, I know 46 people right now are like staring at their cell phones, Pavel P. Pavel. Pavel P. Congratulations. Now Pavel, where are you from? I'm on the Pavel. Pavel, where are you from? Where are you from? Well, where you from? Okay, doing it. Where are you from, Pavel? I am from Delaware. Okay. And are you a big Metallica fan? Huge, absolutely huge. I am fly rolling. Kaley and Kaley, careful, careful. Are you, okay, so tell us like have you been a Metallica fan since the 80s, 90s? What's your, what's your, how much do you love them? I love Metallica as much as the next guy. I saw Metallica back in the late 80s. I didn't even really know who they were. All right. What's your favorite album? Because I was nothing but a pop guy at the time, it wasn't until Lowe came out and they sold out and cut their hair and everyone hated them. I was like, I like those guys. I feel like the Black album with Enter Sandman was like what, 91? And that was really when the old fan base was sort of like they're selling out with more mainstream hits. So that's I think when a lot of people like just fell in love with the band. Well Pavel, here's the deal. Congra- you're gonna keep this game, right? You're not gonna flip it, you're not gonna scalp it, right? Nope. Okay, so we're gonna check in, Pavel, we're gonna check in every like six months and just wanna see a photo of it in that game room. How's that sound? It's perfectly fine. All right, all right. And I will, Pavel, I will connect with you after this and I'll get you all the details ット 안 되세요 لاcek 게임에 개 이루어받oug branch �oral 안 되세요 거 hashtag은 Go hit the gym now and play some Metallica and hit it hard. That goes against everything you ever said. No pinball, go to the gym. Yeah. I always say like if people did as many push-ups as words they posted on Pinside, this whole hobby would be ripped. Like it's just, it's amazing to me. All right, Pavel, well thank you very much. I'm super excited for you and I can't wait for you to get the game. Well thank you and thank you, Killian. Killian, say thank you. Thank you. Say you're welcome. Okay. See you, Pavel. Alright, thanks. Alright. Well, that was great. You know, look, I'm, I'm, I feel like I want to like, should I give one other number and give a t-shirt? I don't even have t-shirts to give. I have no more merchandise. They took all my merchandise down. Look, Pavel, I'm super happy for you. For all of you who are in the running, thank you for sharing your stories of Metallica. I know everybody, give me this baby. Hold on a second. There's one more. Get, get, here we go. Okay. Okay, see, this sweet child of mine is the future. You know, I keep telling this to everybody. This is the future of pinball are the people with children who are gonna get bit by the pinball bug, right? I mean, you're gonna play pinball, right? Yeah, of course you're gonna play pinball. His head looks like a pinball. It is completely round and it's absolutely adorable. Are you doing all right? He's so chill. Like, he's the easy one. You know, it's Killian that's like all the energy and making everything go nuts in our house every day. All right, all right. Sweet child of mine. See, he's got his Guns N' Roses t-shirt on. Gary, get him out of here. Get him out of here. There we go. There we are, the future of pinball podcasting right there. Right there. Everybody look, I'm super happy that we did this. I'm thankful too that a lot of you sort of helped me see Steven 이것.
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    We're all kind of, I think, appreciating life on a new level now that we've been through the pandemic. If you've been to shows, I highly recommend going to a show. It's a lot different. For those of you who went to Expo, toured the different manufacturers, met the community, the amount of Good energy and good vibes that were coming out of that show. I don't know. It made me feel re-energized about pinball, and I know it made a lot of you feel that same way. And I do encourage everybody, you know, just tune down the forums. You know, a lot of noise and echo chamber happening on pin side that I don't think is really reflective of the positivity that's in this hobby. Now, don't get me wrong. This isn't some like spreading pinball positivity show. I'm going to call it as I see it. There are good games and there are bad games. There's good quality and there's bad quality. There's real talent in pinball and then there's, I think, just some people figuring it out as they go. Everybody look, we've had a really fun show. I kind of want to end it on a high note. Thank you, Mr. Gomez, for hanging out. Thank you for all the work you do over at Stern Pinball. Thank you to all the manufacturers that actually give us enough to discuss. So, games coming out, what would we talk about, right? We'd still be like, if it wasn't for these guys, we'd be talking about Hep Restored, Theater of Magics, and how much is it gonna go up? Like, you know, I know, like there's a lot of new stuff happening in pinball that is so exciting. We've got Spike 3 around the corner, got Harry Potter coming, we've got Back to the Future coming, we've got maybe King Kong, maybe Fallout, right? I love speculating what's around the corner because even when you know like what some of these themes are, you still, it gets your imagination going. And I mean this when I say it. You know, in a world of Gen Z kids that are all lonely and miserable and not happy, it's because they're not imagining stuff. They're not dreaming of things. They're not in hobbies. They're just looking at vapid content all day long that does nothing to make them feel a part of something. And I always say this, like this community is the elixir to the number one problem in the world, which is loneliness. Like that is the pandemic that a generation is struggling with. And as long as we have these products and each other, I never feel alone in pinball. In fact, like at any hour, I can hang out with people from all over the world, whether we Skype or we do this. You put up a message on a Patreon chat and people are in it. Yeah, buddy. Thank you for the more letters.
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    This is the third of the year of Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. Everybody be good. We'll talk to you soon. And again, congrats to Pavel. I will... Kelly, what are you doing? What are you doing? Have a great Saturday and go Yankees. What a devastating loss last night. I'm up all night watching it. Great game. We just had to close out the bottom of the 10th and that grand slam. All right, everything's in there. Good. Good job, everybody. Kaneda out. See you guys. Be good. Happy Saturday. Enjoy this fall day. Bye. Robert DeHaas, The Newippenreaper, Robert De returner, Paul Garvey, Paul Bernanke, rod Tongalова, Schumacher, Walter Murdoch, Scott Benchek, Maurice Baker, Super-P、 Sponte Bank, Major meny JT, Benjamin Jenkin, T.っと and Michael Svirik, J.D. swag tag www.sk Bring it on! Subtitles by the Amara.org community