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Episode 98: We talk Fathom, Rumors, Game Room Porn

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Apr 30, 2021
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TL;DR

PMPN Ep98: Ian buying Creature from Black Lagoon, Drew getting Earthshaker, Oktoberfest sold, Fathom rumors.

Summary

In episode 98 of Poor Man's A A Pinball Podcast, Drew and Ian discuss personal updates including Ian's planned purchase of a Creature from the Black Lagoon project pin and his sale of Oktoberfest, while Drew shares his acquisition of an Earthshaker machine. The episode covers tribe network news, rumor mill speculation about Fathom, and a segment on "Game Room Porn." The hosts are focused on reaching episode 100 and celebrate their podcast's growing community.

Key Claims

  • Ian is purchasing a Creature from the Black Lagoon project pin and will sell Oktoberfest to fund it

    high confidence · Ian directly states he's almost certain about the purchase, with Drew offering to front money and mentioning finding a buyer willing to pay full price for the machine

  • Drew is acquiring an Earthshaker machine from a seller in northern Illinois

    high confidence · Drew explicitly states 'I am getting an Earthshaker this week' and describes the machine's condition as player's grade with a nice playfield

  • CPR Pinball hasn't had Earthshaker playfields on their site but has indicated they plan to run production again

    high confidence · Drew recounts emailing CPR on Sunday night and receiving a response that they plan to run playfields again and will put him on a list

  • Creature from the Black Lagoon is an expensive, sought-after machine with significant price increases in recent years

    medium confidence · Ian references pricing it at $2,000 two years ago vs. current full price, noting 'two years ago, he would have been laughed out of the room with that price'

  • Travis Moseman (Marv Loco) is a top 100 player in the world

    medium confidence · Drew states 'I think he's a top 100 player in the world. Forgive me if I'm wrong' regarding Travis Moseman

  • Poor Man's A Pinball Podcast Podcast has 40 tribe members with a spin-off show called 'Tribe Multiball' hosted by Rachel Logey and Tim Lee

    high confidence · Drew describes the structure: 'we have 40 tribe members and every week they are interviewing one of our tribe members' and mentions the show is in episode 5

  • Oktoberfest is priced at $6,900-$7,000 based on recent comparable sales at Pinside

    high confidence · Ian states the price is '100% based on what's been going on at Pinside' and references checking with Doc Finley

  • Pinball prices have increased significantly, with vintage machines commanding premium prices

    high confidence · Doc Finley allegedly said 'This year is fucked with pinball prices' and suggested pricing Oktoberfest at $10,000 as a collector's edition

Notable Quotes

  • “The whole side falls off like, oh, shit. Yeah. No! Earthshaker, good. Cabinet, bad.”

    Drew @ mid-episode — Humorous commentary about the contrast between Earthshaker's famous vibration mechanism and the poor condition of the cabinet he's acquiring

  • “This year is fucked with pinball prices. Just, you know, get them as high as you want.”

    Doc Finley (referenced) @ mid-episode — Industry observation about 2024/2025 pinball market inflation and pricing pressure

  • “Two years ago, he would have been laughed out of the room with that price. Absolutely.”

    Ian @ mid-episode — Reflects rapid appreciation of vintage pinball machine values in recent years

  • “It's a good game if you want to get better at pinball because each tent mode is almost like a different set of skills you get to learn as you play pinball.”

    Ian @ mid-episode — Commentary on Oktoberfest's gameplay structure and educational value for newer players

  • “We're here for the 100. That's it. And then we're going to wrap it up. Yep. We're going to hang it up.”

    Drew and Ian @ early episode — Joking about their milestone of 100 episodes as a endpoint for the podcast

Entities

IanpersonDrewpersonTravis MosemanpersonRachel LogeypersonTim LeepersonPete QuintpersonDoc FinleypersonPoor Man's Pinball PodcastorganizationPoor Man's Pinball Podcastorganization

Signals

  • ?

    product_strategy: Ian selling Oktoberfest to fund acquisition of Creature from the Black Lagoon reflects market efficiency in repurposing games; game pricing strategy based on comparable Pinside sales

    high · Ian mentions finding 6-7 interested buyers already in first full day of Oktoberfest sale; Doc Finley advises aggressive pricing citing year-wide market inflation

  • ?

    collector_signal: Creature from the Black Lagoon experiencing significant price appreciation; two-year price increase suggests strong demand and limited supply in used market

    high · Ian notes pricing was laughably low $2,000 two years ago; now paying full price; described as not seeing project pins especially this title often

  • $

    market_signal: Broad market signal of pinball price increases across categories; Doc Finley suggests market is 'fucked' with pricing; machines appreciating rapidly

    high · Oktoberfest priced at $6,900, Creature appreciated significantly, multiple references to price increases, Doc suggesting $10k valuations

  • ?

    community_signal: Poor Man's Pinball ecosystem expanding with spin-off show 'Tribe Multiball' featuring 40 tribe members; structured podcast network within larger pinball community

    high · Rachel Logey and Tim Lee running interview show; 40 tribe members; episode 5 just dropped; format designed to showcase community personalities

  • ?

    content_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast approaching 100-episode milestone with sustained community engagement; podcast expanding with secondary content programming

Transcript

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0:00
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0:27
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1:55
Oh, yeah. It's time. You've waited a week or more, and now it's finally here. The time has come for the sloppiest show on the Internet. This week's episode of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast.
2:09
Starring Drew and Ian. That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over. I'm gonna need someone to help me. I'm gonna need somebody's help.
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high · Episode 98 discussion of reaching 100 as significant milestone; tribe members actively participating; spin-off show gaining traction

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Drew planning restoration of Earthshaker cabinet; proactively sourcing new playfield from CPR Pinball; collector willing to invest in longer-term restoration project

    high · Drew states 'I think I'm going to restore this one' and proactively contacted CPR about playfield availability; plans to play machine while planning restoration

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: CPR Pinball planning to resume production of Earthshaker playfields after period of unavailability; adding Drew to notification list

    high · Drew emails CPR and receives response: 'we're planning on running him again. I'm not sure when. I'll put you on the list and let you know'

  • ?

    venue_signal: New Milwaukee venue 'Mothership' identified as potential location for pinball placement; bar has space and thematic alignment for classic pinball like Attack from Mars

    medium · Drew describes Mothership as having NBA Jam four-player in awkward position; suggests it would be ideal location for Attack from Mars placement; 'that would be this bar 100%'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Oktoberfest praised for teaching value to new players through tent modes teaching different skills; Ian describes it as 'good game for non-pinheads' despite being 'floaty'

    medium · Ian: 'each tent mode is almost like a different set of skills you get to learn' and 'appeals to a lot of different people'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Travis Meary (Marv Loco) emerging as engaged community personality; streaming on Pinball Network; developing relationship with Poor Man's Pinball hosts

    medium · Travis messaging Drew weekly after listening to show; described as top 100 player; active streamer on Pinball Network

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Episode features 'pinball rumor mill' segment where hosts discuss unverified rumors; Fathom mentioned in notes but content not detailed in transcript

    low · Drew references 'rumor mill' segment and notes mention 'Fathom. Kaneda does. Too soon.' suggesting speculation about upcoming machines or news

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Ian expressing mixed emotions about Oktoberfest sale; nostalgic attachment but pragmatic about moving to Deadpool as better shooting game; still plans to play before sale

    medium · Ian: 'I'm going to miss Oktoberfest. I don't want to sell it in a way, but I also think it's time to move on' and plans to 'play it until' buyer takes it

    • 2:31
    Son of a bitch! Give me a drink One of the nights I'll be stamping me One of the nights If I drink it clean I'm gonna drink my way Welcome to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast episode Number, what is it, 98? 98, I almost wanted to say 89 Didn't seem real cut that music it's beautiful music i love it i get into it um welcome everybody to the poor man's pinball podcast slappy's showing the internet drew how you doing sir i am doing wonderful good man what's new with you uh it's been a good week uh lots of pinball this week um let's see yeah i got a lot of stuff going on we'll get into some of that later but yeah just you know busy at work and getting stuff done and uh you know drinking a little bit and hanging out with my wife at night, which is fun. Yeah. What else? I don't know. It was just a good week. One of those solid weeks. Drew sucks at pinball. Hey, there it is. Now we can start talking about pinball. Thank you, Jackrabbit, for the bits. Thank you, Tim Lee, for the bits. I appreciate it. Thank you for the bits. Chat's already exploded. I love chat. And Josh Mudd. Two weeks in a row, Josh Mudd. Hello, poor men and poor ladies. Hey, poor men and poor ladies. Are there any poor ladies in the house? We got Rachel. Rachel's one of the poor ladies in the house. My lady's a poor, poor lady.
    4:03
    That's what I call my wife, the poor ladies. Poor, poor lady. I feel bad for her. But anyway, so what's up, man? Oh, you said busy, work. You were late coming down here. I know. This is like the first time ever. I'm usually here, and Ian's like, dude, you're here too early, man. What are you doing? Yeah, well, now it's like sometimes it comes early just to play my pinball machine. So then.
    4:26
    Hey, Silver Ball Social Club. Sup, gentlemen dildos? Hello, sir. Welcome to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast, Mr. Gentleman's Club. I love it. So, in pure poor man's fashion, just full disclosure, my OneNote and some of this technology's computer is resetting three, four times. So, I remember most of the notes, so we're going to see where we get. Can you pull it up on your phone? No. No? It doesn't want to sync. I don't know. So, you're working offline. Sign in to sync your notes. You just click it. Man, I'm getting so sick of OneNote. We need a better solution. Yeah. I'm just going to say, you know what? You were so excited about OneNote. Mike Williams, we need to get you a better note-taking app. You are correct. I was just about to say, I'm coming up with a new method because OneNote was fine for a while, but this is getting out of hand. I got it right here. Oh, look at you. Ian comes to the rescue again. Do you have 98 on there? It would be all the way at the bottom. There it is. All right. We got notes. Ian, save the day. Yep. Here we go, kids. How we doing? Kick ass. All right. I still like to see myself, but we'll go through. So right here, we're at shoot the shit. We're doing good. That is actually in our notes, guys. Check. Shoot the shit.
    5:47
    That one's been copy and pasted 97 times. Let's just cross that one off. We're doing really good now. We're already kicking some ass today. So what was I doing? Pinball Doc. OneNote has an app. Yes, I understand that, Pinball Doc. My app is not syncing. I have the app on my phone. It just doesn't want to sync.
    6:07
    We have it. So let's open this bar. All right. We're opening the bar. Come in. Grab a seat. The bar is open. That was really quiet. I'll take it. Whatever. All right, so, Drew. Yes? What you drinking, buddy?
    6:30
    I'm trying to finish up your Knob Creek. He's finishing up the Knob. That a boy. Way to go. Congratulations, sir. What about you, my good friend?
    6:40
    Well, my daughter had her birthday party a couple weekends ago, so I'm just trying to finish up all the leftover beer. So today is Sam Adams, Boston Lager. A classic favorite. Yeah, it tastes good. Hits the spot. Feels good to be drinking beer again. You know, I haven't really had too many side effects other than drunkenness. So it's been good. Is that a side effect? It says right here on the bottle, if I'm pregnant, I'm fucked. I would call that a benefit. Definitely. I went out last Saturday with my wife. We had a nice little date night. Yeah. Yeah, that was fun, man. And you could just tell we were parents out of town. You could tell we were up to no good, and we weren't used to our surroundings the whole night. I stopped here yesterday and caught them in the afternoon. They were both a little hungover. Yeah, we were feeling great. But we ended up dropping off my daughter. You know, when we first had Vera, you know, we wanted, you know, like a date night. Hey, Lee, thanks for the subscription. We drop her off at Grandma and Grandpa's at like, you know, 6, you know, and then pick her up the next morning really early because we missed her. So we pick her up at like 9 or 10, you know, sleep in a bit and go get her. Not this weekend. No, we were just like we dropped her off at like 1.30 in the afternoon. Then we went day drinking, hit up a couple bars, and we went for dinner.
    8:10
    We were very stoned, very drunk. the restaurant didn't see us coming because it was kind of a nice place we get in there and we are giggling we can't order we finally get our order out laura orders a whole bottle of wine which we finished motherfuckers we did it hammered stone finished the wine got some pizza got some 14 salads uh yeah and then we ate all that and the munchies kicked in and then i was like dude we need to get a pizza to go laura's like we need second pizza laura's like we need to go home we're into we're watching creep show on amazon guys if you have not seen most of us have amazon prime if you guys like the old like horror movies of the day thank you new subscriber cause thank you hey josh mudd wild night of nookie we're getting there just relax but but no we're really into creep show so if you like the old 80s movie from george romero and stephen king well they have a tv show it was like made for uh shutter i almost said stutter it was made for shutter which is a channel a streaming channel but amazon prime has it so this is a fucking killer a new show it's a series two no i know but it's new okay yeah back in the 80s it was a movie the creep show and creep show yeah see when you said creep show i know like i know i've heard that before yeah everyone knows the the generic spinoff and that was tales from the crypt yeah sure fuck that one creep shows the original it's the way better one anyway so so we mike williams wants to know if you went to pizza man no we were at uh santino's in milwaukee very good pizza shout out to santino very expensive pizza though for what it was there were little guys i was like dude should have went to domino's i was just 16 bucks but regardless doesn't matter it doesn't matter we were so high and happy we ordered a second pizza we ordered a tiramisu to go the guy kept us there longer he's like nah stick around have a cordial and then he gave us a some shot of some kind of liqueur and then um which tasted like ass and then uh but then he was like no stay on the house have some tiramisu so i said fucking awesome tiramisu he's gonna he's gonna fatten you up like kidnap you or something laura didn't touch the tiramisu i ate the whole fucking thing because like i said i was in stoner mode oh my god this is and we have the giggles bad laura is losing it and she's got like like the pepper you sprinkle on your pizza she isn't coming down her cheeks she's trying to order the second pizza i'm eating all the tiramisu i got the cocoa powder everywhere i'm just like and i'm looking around and all i see are people looking at us i swear to god laura thinks i'm nuts but i'm like fucking everyone's staring at us because we kept laughing extremely obnoxious people at the bar front and center and they ended up um And we ended up paying our tab, and I was like, we got to go. We're going. So we got second pizza, get in the car, drive it home. And Laura's smoking, and she's finished smoking, and she rolls up the window.
    11:13
    And as it's rolling up, you can hear birds going. Guys, we weren't out that late. We were actually there out that early. It was 8 o'clock, and the birds were still up, and we were going home. Get home. and the wife completely passes out passed out and i watched mortal combat on hbo cause that answers your question sorry cause is asking did this date night end with sex that's the question everyone wants to know no no there's no no exciting uh fireworks no you know what ended it i had uh fruit snacks i had cracker jack hang on hang on let me set the scene ian's got no shirt on he's got a couple slices of pizza on his chest i'm eating pringles and i ate three quarters of that fucking second pizza and i ate i drank a shit ton of water he might he might have stuck his dick in the pizza we're not sure watched mortal combat thought it was the weirdest dumbest version of mortal combat i've ever seen cool action but that was about it and uh that married life man a little backstory to all this okay i was just talking to my wife before i got here about this because um ian and my wife are always very similar ever since edibles fuck me i was gonna say ever since i've known ian and my wife neither one was really into weed in any capacity you know ian and i smoked a couple of times um and uh you know ian and i always went out drinking and stuff but you know i would partake and Ian's usually like, no. His wife's smoking and he's like, no. Ever since my wife and Ian have discovered edibles, they are like ravenous monsters for it. I just fucking love it. I love it. It takes such a small amount.
    12:58
    My wife is the same. My wife will take a 10 milligram gummy, for you guys that don't know, you can look it up, and she'll cut it in half and she'll just take that. She loves it. I just think it's so awesome. So just earlier today, she comes in my room. I'm playing pinball, right? She's like, Drew, Drew. And I'm like, what? She's acting like me. She's all excited. She goes, look at this. And she shoves the phone in my face. And it says, like, in Milwaukee here, around the time of my birthday, which is in July, they're doing this Van Gogh thing downtown.
    13:30
    And she's like, me, you, Laura, and Ian all need to get stoned and go to this thing for your birthday. So I was like, bet. Cool. We're going. So I get here, and I told Laura the same thing, and Laura just said that Ian's mom also asked about that same thing because it just got released today or something. But, yeah, it's a Van Gogh art exhibit downtown for my birthday. It's happening.
    13:54
    Sounds artsy. Hit the Skittles button again. Whee! Van Gogh! Thank you, Steven Silver, for all the animations provided to the Poor Man's Spinball podcast. Pringles and cream cheese is great You know what I didn't have any cream cheese Well I do have cream cheese Fruit snacks on the pizza Hopefully morning sex Everyone wants to know about your sex man Everyone's asking A gentleman never Explains or He didn't get any That's a no Fuck you guys Alright let's move on So that's me shooting the shit How about you? Anything else? We're good. We did you already. Let's go. Let's keep going. What do we got next? Let's go. What do we got on tap today? What's on tap, Drew? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I need your notes. I need the notes.
    14:46
    What's on tap today? I'm going to pull this tap. We got some poor man's pinball personal news. I'm going to pull this other tap. We got some more tribe news, some new tribe happenings. What? I forgot to do all that. Do all what? The tribe. We need to do the tribe. That's fine. I got some stuff. Okay. You got Tribe News? What? We're not doing the... Okay. We're not doing the... We're not introducing any new Tribe members. Okay, cool. We'll have one next week. It'll happen. We didn't pregame. Or we didn't pregame. We didn't pregame today. You were late. Sorry. No, that's cool. We got a little bit of Drew's Pinball Palace update. Pinball Palace in my basement.
    15:23
    Ian's shaking his head. I gotta call it something. He doesn't like my alliteration. No, I just don't think anyone cares about what we do.
    15:31
    Everybody cares about what we do. You don't really think that. Can I share a story? No. No, let's just keep going. What else we got on tap? I'm sharing. So earlier today, I'm at work, right? Yeah. And I got everything set up at my desk. And fortunately for my job, actually- I just got done telling a stupid story about me. It's a quick story. I know. I'm joking. I don't give a shit.
    15:55
    So I see Facebook Messenger light up, bling, and it's Travis Meary. For you guys who don't know, Travis Meary is a fellow podcaster, streamer. He's on the Pinball Network. Cool dude. I met him at District 82 this last weekend. And he just sent me a message. Hey, I just listened to the last episode. You all, because he's from Oklahoma, you all crack my ass up every single time. Yeah, so Travis and I message back and forth every week now. Travis, I'm so glad you're a fan and a listener. I love it. Check out Travis. It's Marv Loco is his channel. Marv Loco. Yeah, Marv Loco. He does stuff on Pinball Network. He streams. He's an awesome player. I think he's a top 100 player in the world. Forgive me if I'm wrong. This guy's amazing, but he's cool. Aren't we all? I'm not. I'm not either. We discussed that last week. Yeah. I'm top 100,000. That's not pretty. I'm 30,000. So, yeah, so very cool. But anyways. Very cool. Travis, thank you. We got some news sponsored by This Week in Pinball. Always excited. We're going to do a little bit pinball rumor mill just because everyone's been shooting out rumors. So why shouldn't we shoot off our mouth with some rumors? Let's make some shit up. Yeah, let's just make it up. Fathom. Kaneda does.
    17:09
    Too soon. We will have a new tribe member next week. I'm really looking forward to this one. We have something awesome. I'll just delete this. Delete. Go to episode 99. Boom. Sorry. Sorry, future tribe member. You're going in episode 99. We'll have a little happy hour and a little bit what did you learn today? Perfect. So there you go. Excellent, excellent, excellent. I love this stuff. This is a good show. Oh, you missed one. Game Room Porn. Oh, it's right there. Yeah, you said it. Okay. No, I didn't say it. We also have some Game Room Porn. We threw out a poll. What did you guys want to see? And we had a lot of votes for that. Game Room Porn! For you guys, Ian's disappointed that Love Letters did not get the highest amount of votes. Glenn voted for it, and that was it. And I was like, shit, only Glenn understands it then. Glenn and Ian. I thought it was a huge hit. I can do it every week. I love it. Now you know how I feel with my segments. It cracks me up. When you're like, Drew, Drew, no. Yeah, well, I shoehorn shit. I want to do more fun, ridiculous things. That's cool. Any plans for episode 100? Yes, Billy. We have a million plans. We're probably not going to do any of them, but we'll do something. You're looking at it. Yeah. It's basically going to be episode 100. It's going to be like this, Billy. It's exactly what we're doing now, but we'll say, it's episode 100. Yeah, I'll wear the unicorn hat again. Maybe a... Will they make it to 100? Yes, Kaz. Unless something... I don't know. What would preclude us from getting episode 100? Oh, at this point... Two weeks ago. At this point... Two weeks to go. At this point, it's sheer fucking will. We're going to get there regardless. We're motoring through. You think this brings us joy? You think we like doing this shit every week?
    18:50
    We're here for the 100. That's it. And then we're going to wrap it up. Yep. We're going to hang it up. done and then we'll say we've done a hundred episodes of a pinball podcast what are we doing with our lives and we made negative two thousand dollars plus it was a good time i was gonna say that's pretty good i thought we were like we were five thousand in the red fuck i forgot about brian holderman we still owe that guy no i'm joking i paid brian sorry brian sorry that check bounced brian's expensive man last time he was so expensive not only did he drop on the price after everything was done i don't know i don't know why we didn't ask for a quote he just was like i'll do it and then i was like we'll do it and then he did it and he was like here's what you owe me i was like whoa brian we are not good businessmen I forget about how straight down the middle did their shirt or he did their shirt not straight down the middle I'm sorry it was a special when lit and I was like oh yeah I forget those guys are rich they have Chicago money yeah they don't care about you know X amount of dollars oh my god that's too good so fucking funny awesome I'm going to take out a small business loan for it we'll be paying that back for the next 20 years.
    20:21
    So, Tribe News. Let's get into this news thing. Yeah, so nothing too crazy, but once again, if you guys have not been following, please check out T-P-P-N.
    20:35
    The Poor Man's Pinball Network. Sorry, Zach. So, I love how... New follower. Thank you. Rachel. What is that? D-L-W Pinball. Oh, thanks, D-L-W Pinball. welcome aboard welcome uh rachel logey and tim lee are doing uh a podcast in the they call it the poor man's pinball universe i love that yes so in our universe we're making circles we're doing uh yeah that again hamburger circles hamburger check out a couple episodes ago if you don't get that reference the poor man's universe um the poor man's universe so uh what they do is we have 40 tribe members and every week they are interviewing one of our tribe members and they do a whole show on it. Great podcast, Rachel and Tim. Great podcast. Thanks for the vids, guys. Yes, Siri. Artificial intelligence. It's not postcast.
    21:36
    You hear how she said that? Yeah, I heard. So anyways, they're in episode 5. They did Pete Quint this week.
    21:44
    So check out. Rachel was actually in columbus ohio and spent some time with pete quint so it was pretty awesome very cool we have an eclectic group of we do fuckers so if you guys are sitting at home and you're like i wonder how i can be a tribe member listen to tribe multiball with rachel and tim and you'll get some insight yeah absolutely you'll see what kind of people we induct you'll see what they're like their personalities they're all over the board yeah for sure like us which is awesome so uh yeah great group of people yeah episode five just dropped so uh great job guys i'm really enjoying listening to it dropping all sorts of stuff like they're gonna catch up to us soon for sure um so yeah like the group of fuckers yes rachel i said it that's that's some that should be your tagline rachel truly so uh yeah just check that out so that's the tribe news for the week what else we got here we gotta look at the notes here what else are we talking about Well, Ian's had a little bit of a week this week from Pinball World. Oh, yeah. We're talking about personal pinball news? Yeah. All right. Let's do that. Get it rolling. What did you do, man? I know you got some stuff going on. Pinball stuff, right? No.
    22:55
    So a friend of ours, I'm not going to name names because people are going to contact him under my ass, so I'm not going to name the name of- His name Tim Lee Someone that we know has a Creature from the Black Lagoon project pin Tim Lee Everyone call Tim Lee and ask him about it Which is amazing It's not Tim Lee. Because you don't see project pins, especially Creature from the Black Lagoon, which is the pinball machine. If you have not been listening to us these 98 episodes, I have always talked about how that was the pin that got me back into pinball. At the time, it was only $2,000. And then the back.
    23:29
    And I was like, yeah. Is that 1982? I was like, that's fucking crazy high. Yes. No, it was – it came with Maiden in 92. It probably was. I don't know. No, this was like 2001, 2002, right after – That was when you were really into the arcade, but you saw – you went to the show and you saw it there. Yes, yes. That's the story, and I just fell in love with that and pinball in general. I'm going to be in the background here just saying, do it. Do it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going to do it. Oh, you are? I think so. yeah i'm almost certain it depends if i where are skittles just skittles ian's getting it i i've been i've been pushing him the last couple of days and uh i've been on this uh text message stride with this unnamed person and uh so you're gonna do it you're gonna do it yeah absolutely i'm gonna do it i think well we'll see how it goes i want to i want to sell oktoberfest but get a fair price for oktoberfest i will front you the money all right perfect we'll do that okay hey uh unknown uh creature from the back lagoon guy we'll figure out payment okay glad it rhymes with shirmy fuck you glenn glad you son of a bitch what does he care he just made a sale help ian with 100 bits thank you we're gonna need a few more than 100 bits because uh this unnamed person he's charging he's not project he's not charging project pricing we're paying full price for a beat the shit creature because he's our friend isn't it yeah some friend no isn't it isn't that messed up with with how the world no it's joking no it's i was it's price great we agreed with yeah i agreed with him yeah percent that price is legit It's priced great, but yeah, two years ago, he would have been laughed out of the room with that price. Absolutely. It's just so funny how that works. Hey, that's pinball, baby. That is pinball, baby. That's pinball, baby. I'm excited, man. The Oktoberfest went up for sale. Already, first full day, I have probably about six or seven things in my inbox. Why wasn't Oktoberfest in the ads? You can buy a brand new, almost new, Oktoberfest. $7,000, South Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Call right now. We will take $100 off. $6,900. Take Oktoberfest home. I also need to know what's inside your butthole. Yes, you need to tell us that. If you tell us that, take another $100 off. Okay, $6,800. There you go.
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    Dr. John's like, well, we all know what's inside the butthole. It's fecal matter and hair. Dr. John, you always ruin our jokes. Then he sends us a bunch of pictures of buttholes, and then I go, Damn it, Dr. John, you're brilliant. I love it.
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    So, yeah, dude, I will say this. The left ramp is broken, though. Balls don't go up it. Shut up. It does work, asshole.
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    I'm going to miss Oktoberfest. I don't want to sell it in a way, but I also think it's time to move on. Now that I have Deadpool and it's a really good shooting game, you almost wish Oktoberfest wasn't as floaty as it is. But other than that, I really like Oktoberfest, and I still have a ball playing it. And it's a great game if you want to get better at pinball because each tent mode is almost like a different set of skills you get to learn as you play pinball. It's very cool. Oktoberfest is a really good game for non-pinheads, right? And pinheads alike. Oktoberfest appeals to a lot of different people. Yeah. I'm just talking gameplay. Like I said, for me, being a pinhead, it's okay. But it's just a solid game. Yeah, it's a good game. So we'll see. And that price is 100% based on what's been going on at Pinside. And we checked with Doc Finley, as always. And Doc said, fucking throw it up. Doc Finley is like, you should charge like $10,000. Yeah. It's a collector's edition. It's got a German hat on top. He's like, this year is fucked with pinball prices. Just, you know, get them as high as you want. We even joked about selling Laser War, but no, not yet. We're not going to do that yet. No, we talked about it because Ian, right now, it's just unplugged in his basement. But here we are. We have a little bit of work to do on that one, but we will. So, yeah, hopefully Creature will be coming home next week. Buy a Fathom, Dr. John. We'll talk about that later. Yeah, yeah. All right, Drew. So that's what's going on with me. Kind of exciting. Yeah, it is exciting. Sad, but excited. It's not gone yet, my friend. Yeah, I'll play it. I'll play it until. It is not gone yet.
    28:15
    So what do I have going on? I am cleaning out, finishing cleaning out my basement this week. And I have a plan for fixing it up. And I will be putting pictures up and doing all that stuff for you guys as that progresses. But more exciting than any of that. Thank you, Rachel.
    28:37
    I am getting an Earthshaker this week. Earthshaker. Mm-hmm. Pretty game. We're going to see that in Gamer Imporn today. I'm excited. I've been talking to this guy. He's in northern Illinois for the last month or two. He didn't have it on the market. He just responded to my ad and said, hey, I have one. It's player's condition. It works. The play field's pretty nice. The cabinets beat the hell.
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    I think I'm going to restore this one, though. Okay. There was another guy who had one with a play field. The play field on his was all blown out. The cabinet was beat to shit. Cabinet is just destroyed. Oh, my God. That is going to be so much funny when that fucker starts shaking.
    29:20
    Boom! The whole side falls off like, oh, shit. Yeah. No! Earth shaker, good. Cabinet, bad. Hanging out with a two-year-old too much. Yeah. So CPR made these play fields for a long time, and they haven't been on the site. I've kind of been casually looking, right? So anyways, I messaged Zach, and I just said, hey, Zach, when you're going on your pinball travels, I was going to put up an ad and all this stuff, and I was like, hey, if anyone has a new old stock or a CPR Earthshaker Playfield, let me know. And he's like, oh, doesn't CPR still have them? And I'm like, well, no, they're not on their site. So he prompted me. I was like, oh, shit, I should just email them, right? So sure enough, I email CPR, and I'm like, hey, are you guys running this? Hey, Jay Sellers, what's up, man? Hey, Jay. Jessie J. Buttholes. Shut up. Jessie J., where have you been? You're not welcome here anymore. You've been absent. No, she's totally welcome. She's always welcome. She knows I love her. She's the reason why we do this show and the reason why we've been fighting the last couple weeks. Just kidding.
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    We love you, Jessie J. All right, go ahead. So I email CPR, and this is Sunday night. this morning. He's like, we're planning on running him again. I'm not sure when. I'll put you on the list and let you know. So I'm excited so I can do this slowly because the game works. It's fine. I'll play it for a while. I'll play the hell out of it. And then at some point I'll rip it down and figure out if I'm doing a new cabinet or fixing the old cabinet.
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    Should be good though. I'm excited. Might be my first bolted machine. I was thinking to you, since you have the extra cash one of the bars my the wife and i went to it's called um shit mothership it's called mothership it's like a it's kind of like my bar but only there's like a space theme to it a little bit slightly but in this really weird awkward position in the middle of the kind of like to the left of the bar in the middle of the room is like an old dusty nba jam four player but everything else is kind of like alien-ish yeah and i was like if there was ever going to be a bar that was going to take a pinball machine especially an attack from mars to put on location oh no shit you know it would be this bar 100 no one other shit no one's playing yeah no one's playing nba jam you know it was unplugged that was the hottest game i would say that game was on fire on fire boom shakalaka cheese slices all right all right let's keep going uh very cool man earth shaker yeah yeah so uh yeah hopefully a couple of days i'm gonna go drive down it's only like an hour so it's it's a nice little drive no no big deal uh so i'm gonna drive down there and uh and and pick it up cool man yeah i am i'm really i'm really stoked about that and uh you like her shaker they have one over at the garcade we played it so i was impressed i really never played it before and when i played it at the garcade i was like dude this game's fucking awesome baller it's a baller machine yeah well it's just that you know classic jay hawker one thank you three uh for the one bit yeah i love it one to grab each other's ass cheeks jay hawker come on jay hawker we'd do that for free we would do that today for free uh glenn wechter good game to practice stage flipping yes i agree that uh that upper that upper left flipper yep i'm actually pretty so you know what as much as i suck at pinball i'm pretty good at stage flipping actually i think so you know i've had a lot of three flipper games now so he beat a 10 year old last week i did i beat him into submission uh like like a real man sweet flipper skills uh for you guys who don't know what we're talking about check out episode 97 where drew gets his ass kicked by everybody but he kicked a 10 year old's ass and you know what that 10 year old was dazed and confused when he saw your flipper skills i'm sure we need a bottle opener over here all right anyway keep going uh speaking of which so i had this uh you know jesse j's in chat they always do their uh their shitty themes for pinball or whatever where her and ryan go back and forth right and my father-in-law mentioned something the other day something i hadn't thought about in a long time and while it truly wouldn't make a good pinball machine it just makes me smile so i'd like to see somebody do maybe a homebrew remember the show red green the red green show oh such a bad show oh my god i used to love that that would be that'd be a great bad homebrew out of all the homebrews and all the thieves in all the world just goofy just red red green man of course you don't like that i'd like the show but i wouldn't want it once i said no it really it truly wouldn't make a good one but all right it hey man it's your dream buddy do it it's not futurama it's red green fuck earth shaker make it into a red green yeah re-theme ruin a perfectly awesome machine to make it put your money where your mouth is dude rachel drew beating at pinball last week that's right she she pulled a drew in my house she moved every one of my machines two feet to the right she was like oh i'm so sorry i'm like rachel have you met me like my floor is fucked are you nudging too hard oh my god rachel was really rocking those machines rachel yeah good for you i like when rachel gets mad she looks like me and she doesn't shakes it she's like fuck this shit oh yeah yeah yeah it's awesome rachel it was truly an honor to watch you play pinball that was kicking my ass a little not but not not in my house a little nut that's not there rachel why did it tilt it was just like me Why did it tell? I just barely touched it. It was a wind beneath my wings.
    35:30
    All right. So that's it for the poor man's pinball news. That's it for my news this week. All right. So what do we got? Tribe news.
    35:37
    I want to talk about a couple things in the real news. Oh, sure, sure, sure. So, you know, we're talking rumors today, but this is no longer a rumor. Okay.
    35:48
    Haggis pinball. Haggis. Thanks for the cheer. Whoa. Look at all those bits. Jayhawker. Holy crap. You two fudge packers are still the anal hickey of pinball. Jayhawker, you... Jayhawker. I love your comments. The way you talk, it's like as if Shakespeare was here with us.
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    The gift for the gab, sir. Did Shakespeare call someone an anal cunt? Yeah. These fudge packers are still the anal hickey of pinball. I'm pretty sure that's Othello. oh my god uh you can't nudge a home pin yeah thank you so much jay hawker i really do appreciate that uh thanks buddy
    36:35
    haggis haggis pinball we're gonna talk the news today yeah the big news the fathom fathom remade for anyone living under two different versions baby anyone living under pinball rock they they released a teaser video and everyone's like oh jaws because it's like what's coming next and under the sea don't don't you know yeah but they definitely that was a line no they did sure but they it was great it was awesome and then the next day they released this and they say we are remaking fathom and it looks beautiful they have a prototype or a picture of it um so check it out on on facebook uh haggis pinball guys chat guys in chat ladies in chat what did you guys think of the fathom reveal the only thing that i don't like when i've i read through kind of what they're doing and how they're doing it from my understanding and correct me if i'm wrong if you order the standard edition you don't get the new code correct that's part of the mermaid package doesn't like it no i just i have i have a bit of issue our boy marty robbins did the code i know he helped with the rule set which is cool i for several moments contemplated potentially getting one of these for a few reasons a it's you know it's it's a beautiful game right you know B, I really want to support Hoggett's Pinball. We've talked about it before. And for me, this is more appealing than Kelts. It just is. Yep.
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    And I'm not saying what I'm going to do or not do or whatever, but that part I was just like, okay, fine. I mean, I get it. They're a small company, and I'm not saying they're screwing anybody. Don't misunderstand. I'm really happy with this whole thing, and I think it's awesome. That was just – I would like to be able to buy the regular one and get that code. That's all I'm saying. Got it. But with that being said, all that stuff, it's awesome. So, yeah, there's two editions, right? So let's back up a bit. There's the classic edition, which is like $7,500, I believe. Yeah, roughly. And then there's the mermaid edition. It's about $10,000. Yeah. So – $90,000, $96,000. So the classic edition, I don't think we've seen pictures of that. The prototype they showed us was the mermaid edition. however so what was the difference aesthetically then aesthetically um while the apron does have two lcd screens that help progress the player through the new code so there's two little lcd screens a very cool very cool idea okay where your instruction cards are those are like little lcd screens that's the coolest that is very cool uh you get the new code and i believe you get a better surround sound package and you get new call outs and all that good stuff so there's there's a lot that goes into that mermaid package plus it's limited uh sorry i gotta respond jeremy uh cavalier says tna is a better single level game at 6 000 yeah i agree with that because you know fathom was made in what 81 something like that you know tna was made four years ago so you know tna was designed as a single level game in the modern era you know with the the music and the lights and i agree with that but but fathom is and always will be one of the most beautiful packages out there just hands down so class 81 i did it mike see yes so let's let's go over some of this um sorry i'm just reading some of this yeah we're giving cheese slices to jay hawker because of all those bits jay cheese slices up for for jay hawker being a fucking baller just throwing money Are you guys taking notes? Yeah, Jesus.
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    Cheap fuckers. Be nice. Thank you again, Jayhawker. Let's see here. I think those... Jayhawker's raining Skittles on the poor men. So here we go. I'm so disappointed they're not doing Sequest. Kaz, you're joking. Michael Williams, won it. Tony Scoots, meh. Mike Williams, you might consider that? Tim Warts, just like the Beatles. Great to play on location. wouldn't buy one uh d nuts 77 d nuts how you doing we saw you there uh free shipping on mermaid edition from australia to pinball life oh there you go free shipping is it really that's nice tna is a better single level game we heard that um cavalier it's early solid state game i played the original and didn't think it was that great um class 81 you were right true i'm with you jeremy uh let's see some cheese slices yes yes thank you thank you for the cheese slices everyone okay so i i will just say this my thoughts on this is if you're gonna remake you know a game of that era pick the killer theme oh yeah no they're game number one yes number two they did it right i mean the art looks phenomenal right so if i was just gonna say give it you know cheese slices maybe get the cheese slice button ready art is going to be obviously a 10 54 cheese slice 54 54 exactly count those so it should be 54 right there um so try again i missed yeah here you go 54 cheese slices now it's yeah so anyway so it's 108 now jerk um but anyway so i thought what they did that package is beautiful i love that they brought back the old coin door to the called Coindor. There's a lot of details in here that I just think are amazing. Glenn, give me the Red Green Show duct tape edition. I'm not even mad at the price. I felt like some of these people were out of line when they were yelling about the price. I mean, that is basically what a Fathom goes for now, but now you're able to buy one that's going to have all new components. Yes, I was going to say, what does a decent Fathom go for, $5,500, $6,000? No, more like $7,000. Are they that much now? The restored ones are like close to 10. Are they that much now? Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. So Fathoms are crazy expensive. So just in the whole grand scheme of things, I think. Doc Finlay, can you chime in here? What's the average price? I think he's doing a fantastic job with that. The one thing I was like a little shocked about was, and I'll have to agree with Jeremy Schmidt, I played it at Dave Brennan's house, TurboGrafx-7 guys. Shout out. um and dave's is a really nice it's a nice example i just didn't care for the gameplay as much and i know when stern re-released the beatles they took the sea witch layout and they improved upon it but it wasn't like super crazy like you know it was just enough to get some of the geometry right i would have liked to seen him kind of tinker a little bit with the geometry and maybe make it a little bit of a faster game uh maybe the flippers that are going to be stronger perhaps yeah we'll make it a strong faster game but i mean fathom in my eyes is the prettiest game ever made and then i would say is it as much fun as it is to look at and even straight down the middle when they did the review on fathom mentioned as much and i was like you guys are crazy then when i finally played it i was like oh yeah it's i played like three games i was like i'm kind of done with it so real quick this or that then would you rather have a beatles or a fathom a new fathom
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    i'll think because what's called it's the same price if you want to get like the platinum edition yeah um of beatles for you know eight or nine grand you get the mermaid edition for nine grand whatever it is what what would you rather have that's a good one i love how beatles shoots i do too but i love fathom yeah the way it looks that'd be that'd be a close one that's a tough one yeah so i can't think of it damien you are definitely on the right path and steven silver fathom billy yj beetles rachel flips beetles d nuts beetles the new code will fix the boredom yeah but in the mermaid edition i'm talking about the classic hey guys in chat i didn't ask you um beautiful looking game cavalier you're right fathom since 2018 holding steady yeah 5600 hundred there you go but you weren't you were you were right so damien did solve a question though that's been going on for a while remember when everyone asked george gomez about remaking games like that right right you know hey are you going to make these classic stern games i know it's not a stern game it's a ballet game but um you know and george gomez said you know those drop targets are expensive and this is expensive and you know people probably wouldn't want to pay right what we would charge for that game and you know damien in a sense is going to test that market yeah because you have you have starting off good oh it's great it's great yeah so you have this game that's that's well regarded like you said you have all new components you know everything's new new code yeah in the mermaid edition um and to be honest even though cheat me cheat me wants to say you know oh that's just a lot of money for what it is you know i think it's priced right i do too i mean i i think it's i was alluding to that okay the price is right and i also think that i think it's going to be a pretty rare game in general well sure even if they make a couple hundred of them it's still not even if he sells out of everything it's still not gonna be how many he was 250 mermaid is that right guys and then what about the i forgot about the the classic Is that unlimited I don think so Okay BJ Boxy Hey there buttholes What up dude Hey, guys. Rachel Flips is flipping us off. This or that. GNR. Oh, maybe she's pointing up. This or that. GNR LE or Fathom Mermaid. Oh, you know, we didn't talk much about this. Yeah, if we're going to compare it to the newer games. Yeah, you can't. GNR. You can't. When I went out with Rachel and Jeremy last week, I played GNR Standard. Cool. Right? Yeah. And it was okay.
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    But yeah, you can't compare GNR to Fathom. Two totally different demographics. Yeah, Glenel's been on Facebook today proposing all the possible games that they could be making after this one. Because they share a lot of the components. Oh, and Planetary Pinball owns the license for all those. Yeah, so Glenno, you know, lots of same parts for Centaur, Skateball, Voltan, 8-Ball Deluxe. Sure. You know, are those going to be kind of the same remake, you know, depending on it? Well. That's his niche. You're talking about that? Yeah, Centaur would be an obvious. Oh, wait. Sorry, I just thought of another great reason to have a Fathom made by Hoggis versus the original. That damn play field that Hoggis has designed. That one that's dimple-free and badass and super brightly colored. I mean, that art's going to pop and stay beautiful for a long, long time. He needs to, I know he won't, he needs to reveal his magic wizardry because Charlie, right? Charlie Emery of Spooky, they have great play fields, okay? No doubt about it. I've had one. I know it, you know, I didn't have any issues with it. Right. And on an interview this week, Charlie said they only had to replace one Alice Cooper playfield for a customer. And they had to replace zero Rick and Morty playfields. There you go. Good job. Spooky. So the spooky, that's great. But my point is, you know, and then he talked about the old Bally Williams, you know, playfields like people do.
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    Everyone who knows anything about playfields says the same thing. They all dimple. you know it's wood it's it is it's part of the it's just you know it's physics it is what it is right so how does damien get away with this magic plexiglass baby yeah i mean it's it's crazy so yeah good on good on haggis good on spooky tony scoots you're right rbg lighting as well updated lighting is going to be beautiful on fathom are you kidding dr john says he's willing to share he's going to share his uh his secrets uh no clear coat conversation no we're not we're I'm not diving into it. Billy, why, Jay, do you want to know more about clear coats? Let me tell you everything I know about clear coats. Nah, it's okay. I'm done with that.
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    Done with that part of my life. Although, you know what? I was testing a clear coat on my floor at work, and it is still holding up really good. Did you roll a pinball on it? I think I'm going to end up using it on a machine.
    49:15
    Sweet. It's a different stuff now? Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, let me know. That's pretty badass. Jackrabbit, quit snoring, Jackrabbit. Wake up. no more clear coat talk okay jack rabbit what do you want to talk about you tell me all right so fathom i know what everybody wants two stars up two thumbs up oh yeah easy how many cheese slices drew are you gonna give this package the whole package yeah whole package 62 and a half oh that's serious oh wow that's a lot of cheese damien that might be one of the high as as a package once again i don't even know how many times have to hit this button to hit you know jesus am i gonna buy this no and that's only because of probably limited space and and money but as a package and value i think this is really good and i think there's gonna be a lot of collectors that are gonna absolutely go crazy over it absolutely dude so i'm i'm really excited to see what happens um i'm excited if if hagas can just keep making games and doing this well they're also moving into a larger facility yes that is very true seriously very very true damien must have the golden goose he found the goddamn goose he's pumping out gold eggs and he's just chilling he's like well i guess we need a bigger facility i sold you know however many kelts so very cool very cool uh drupal there package raider rate my package drew everybody he put my packages i give it 63 cheese slices yeah and uh rachel said she loves the fact that ian and i we didn't even mention this we're dressed as twins today i didn't wear my backwards hat but uh we're wearing the poor man's hoodie yeah and a little t-shirt underneath and yeah we're oh we even got the same guy yeah and that oh my god what we're so lame yeah i know what show is this again i think i should go up and just fucking change now change thanks thanks rachel so there's you know what we kind of did like a bit of a happy hour here and this was actually really fun so we'll get into some other stuff but you want to take a little uh a little drink break here yeah we can take a drink break okay let's do that i need to get a couple ice cubes here. 10-4, big money. Alright, so we're going to do a little bit of a do-do-do-do-do-do Cocktail break, guys. All the times you ran your pain on my best game Because your ball can't stay down in the in-lane You think you broke my heart with super jacks that lack In the space for a five-mac truck flipper gap And I didn't want to sell you now cause I didn't want anything in your space that's not a ten cause you look good with your lights on so I guess I won't be moving on and I think that Dwight just made new code and I won't hold back but he should just know that Tim Lee don't like you and he likes the black night and I never wanted expensive night lights but I've been so caught up in your art and didn't see all of these flaws cause I was wrong all I'll ever do is turn you on cause if you like the way you look that much Ghostbusters go ahead and flip yourself and if you think that I still wanna play Ghostbusters go ahead and flip yourself And when you told me you were an old-fashioned theme And your lower playfield used to be bees And every time you told me push that blue button And try to make me forget this game's just not fun And I didn't want to play again Cause I didn't want to fall asleep This game just ain't too deep But I like you with your lights on So maybe I'll be holding on And I think Dwight should write something That makes this game not crap He and Frenchie know that Pince, I don't like you But they hate everything And I never play you And I'd get to the end I've been so caught up in your art Drawn with such detailing hearts But now I know This game won't sell in a Kmart So if you like the way you look that much, then monsters, go ahead and flip yourself. Woo! And if you think 6X all day in Grandpa's lab don't stink, then go ahead and flip yourself. What? I don't know our voice.
    54:25
    Yeah. I've been talking into your mic all day today. I'm so proud of you. I did it. You did. The song's great. I said your shots were way too small. Steve Bowden says that they're tight but findable.
    54:45
    I never scored so low. My bricks were vulnerable. Was I a fool to think this game was valuable? Cause if you like the way you look that much Houdini, you can go and flip yourself And if you think that I will play you now Houdini, you can go and flip yourself And if you think I'll try, I'll just brick and die Houdini, you should go and flip yourself And if you think I'll try I'll brick and die You should go and brick yourself All right, we're going to end it there. Glenn, beautiful as always, my man. Dalton, what is going on? Welcome, Dalton. Dalton's in the house, everybody. Hey, Dalton, how are you? All right, so what are we doing next, Drew? What do you want to do next?
    55:48
    Rumors, perhaps? Yes, let's talk about some rumors. There's a lot of rumors. Kaneda's been throwing a lot of shit around, hasn't he? He's just waiting for something to stick. I love how he said the fathom was his break, even though he had an email from Damien, I think, exactly.
    56:05
    Because it was like less than 24 hours. It was like, you know, when that water thing, and he was like, it's Jaws.
    56:11
    Oh, no, no, no. Hold on. I broke it. It's definitely not Jaws. So anyway, some pinball rumors brought to you by Kaneda. Here we go. What are we going to do first? Stern?
    56:22
    Yeah, let's do Stern. Let's do the big dog in the room. All right, so he's saying Mando. Mandalorian is Stern's next king. How do you feel about that one? A couple things. I was talking to someone about this. I don't remember who, but I remember, I think it was Kaneda talking about with Star Wars, the Star Wars pin, that there was no magnet, you know, the Force having a magnet. Yeah. And it was just one of those moments where I was like, yeah, that would have been perfect, right? Magnets are expensive.
    56:57
    Oh, yeah? How much is the magnet, Jordan? I don't know. It was like four in Oktoberfest. Five yours today. Sorry. So it was just one of those, because he was talking about Mandalorian. So this is segueing into that. But I was like, yeah, a magnet. Because I love magnets in pinball.
    57:14
    Sparky, super cool. Spider-Man has a Doc Ock magnet. the little sanctum magnet shadow. I love magnets and pinball.
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    Alice Cooper. So anyways, he's like, yeah, they should have the Force in there. He was just talking about things that he would want in there. And I was like, yeah, kind of cool. But how do I feel about Mando? As a theme in general. Oh, as a theme in general, I think it's great. Because another point was brought up this week. Sorry, I can't give credit. I forgot who it was. But anyone who thinks – there's people that poo-poo every theme, right? You go on Pinside. That's me. That's my job. Sure. There's people on Pinside. I'm the poo-pooer. They're saying, oh, yeah, this game is terrible and it won't sell. Well, sorry, guy. You're an idiot because that's not even an opinion. Yeah. If they bring out the Mandalorian, I'm calling it here first, that might be the greatest selling pin of all time from Starry. Ooh. because it's one of the hottest properties, right? If it's done right, let's say it is Brian Eddy. He'll be great on location. Yeah, he does it a la Shadow. He puts an upper play field in it. No, it's going to sell like crazy. Will it be the best game of all time? No, probably not. But that's not going to matter. So people on Pinside, themes matter. Right. Even Stranger Things, right? Stranger Things didn't sell so great in the beginning. Guess what? It's catching a lot of steam on the back end, right? Sure. Deadpool was the same way. Deadpool was exactly the same way. Everyone poo-pooed that way. I love Deadpool as a theme. I saw Deadpool, and I was like, eh, the more I play it, now I might want a Deadpool. Guardians is that way, too. Everyone bitched on Guardians. Everyone was bitching on the code for Batman 66. Look, Glenno. Glenno says, I like Mando. I don't care about Star Wars. I think there's a lot of people like that, too. They're not Star Wars fans. Think about your wife. And, you know, I know lots of wives that weren't into Star Wars, but they freaking love Baby Yoda. My wife doesn't know anything about it. No? No. My wife didn't watch it, but I know a lot of wives that have. No, there's lots of ladies out there that love Baby Yoda. Are you kidding me? It's not his name, by the way. It's Gogar or something. No, it's Baby Yoda. Googie. Googie Go-Go. Bill Burr has mentioned how cool pinball is on his podcast. Oh, so Bill Burr. Call-outs, possible calls from Bill Burr. It was in like two episodes, though. I didn't even care for his character, to be honest. That was a little weird. I really hope they can get some pretty decent assets, though. That would be the only thing I would worry about is the amount of assets you could get from a show like that. Yeah, but you don't think they'll do it like Star Wars? Because Star Wars has a lot of good assets. Well, I hope they do. You know, I hope they do. And then the other rumor from Kaneda was that the guy who did the comic book art edition. Randy Martinez. He's doing the art for this as well. And that is such a good art package. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So how do you feel? I like Mando. All right. I think it's going to be a solid game. You like it. Two thumbs up for Drew. I'm a little indifferent. Not that I don't like Mando. I really do like it as a series, and I think it plays well with pinball rules. You know, you're a bounty hunter. It's pretty simple. You're right. It's one step, too. You have visions. Get a new bounty. Get another bounty. Watch out for the Stormtrooper. Yes. I like that it's kind of post-apocalyptic in a way where I like, you know, the Stormtroopers are pretty much junk and and bloodied and bruised and on the run and no there's a lot of things that i like about the mando mandalorian show and the potential for pinball tony scoots you can't pass if i was gonna just kill you if i was just gonna say one thing that's got me a little is like you know again i go back to can i just get a really good original trilogy star wars pin like if you're gonna no if you're gonna dip your freaking foot in the star wars pond again give it fucking go let's let's do a a real good star wars dalton says we're all being duped it's the backstreet boys it might be it might be the backstreet spin you're so smart dalton i should have thought about that um oh whoa so but we're that's new kids on the we're talking about this It's definitely going to be Mandalorian. Do we have any thought or opinion that it might be Back to the Future? It might be something else? I never believed it was going to be Back to the Future. Why not?
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    Because I just don't think they're going to get into that can of whoop-ass. Doing Back to the Future and Harry Potter are going to require some serious assets, some serious negotiations, and those are going to be some expensive fucking pinball machines. And they'll sell them for $15,000 apiece. I know, but they're not going to sell them back-to-back. Joe Kamikow. I think we might see a Harry Potter this year. I don't think we'll see a Back to the Future. Whoa, hot take. Wait, wait. You think Harry Potter is going to come out before Back to the Future? I think so. I think it's been screamed at George Gomez's face for long enough. What do you guys think? What would come out first, Back to the Future or Harry Potter? Is Tim Lee still here? Because he's probably choking right now on his fireball. uh back to the future or harry potter will be kapow absolutely 100 i agree uh mr 9865 back to the future huh all right yeah i don't know it's it's hard to say and i mean which one would i rather have is it back to the future i don't i could care less about here okay how about this is it possible it's not mandalorian or back to the future it could be godzilla or godzilla what do you want i don't know it's not what i want i want futurama fuck you It's never going to be Futurama. I know. I've come to grips with that. Anyone who texts me or sends me a message and says Futurama's coming out, you guys are all dead to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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    It's coming out. You're so dead to me. Did Stern blow the greatest selling license by using Beatles on a Sea Witch re-theme, says Glenno. Eh, I don't know about that. But back to the rumors. Okay, so we think it's going to be one of those. Right. Okay. So there's no doubt that this has to be announced soon, right? Because they haven't announced a game since last year. Zeppelin. Yes. So it's literally been. So since we've been in this hobby, it has been. Hey, flip it up, people. True story. Tim Lee is on the Futurama topper list.
    63:54
    Put me on, too. You know. Jack Rabbit. I heard Damien is working on Futurama. Jack Rabbit, you're fucking dead to me. Oh, you motherfuckers. Jesus Christ.
    64:08
    Oh, no. Zach, yeah. Yeah, Zach's like, you're on the list, Drew. I'll take your money for Futurama, anything.
    64:15
    The year will be 2045. Yeah, it'll be actual Futurama time. The year is 3000. Futurama pinball. Stern ran out of all licenses.
    64:26
    Drew is 98 years old. They're digging in the bottom of the barrel for that license. Zach calls Drew, you're on the list. You owe me $2 million.
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    He's talking about expensive. You were like, wait a second. I thought a pinball machine back in the day was only $7,000. Oh, my God. And, yeah. Oh, fuck all you guys. And then Zach will be like, inflation, motherfucker. Yeah. Inflation. Yeah, inflation. And I got to put my 100th kid through college. Give me $2 million for this Futurama. Too good.
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    So, yeah. So I just, I don't think, it'll probably be one of those licenses. I mean, that's what I'm seeing. Yeah, I get it, man. So yeah, I want to see it badly. I want to see Mandalorian, and I want to play Mandalorian. And I want to play a lot of games, but I just haven't been able to play. So what do we think is more interesting, the Stern rumors or the Spooky rumors? Oh, Stern. But we can get into Spooky. Okay. because I uh you know spooky uh they talked people were talking about Scooby-Doo and I got really excited about that because that is a timeless theme that I think is very cool everyone knows I love my cartoons uh sorry you're fine uh so yeah I thought I thought that would be great now they're saying no it's not you know it's going to be a movie some sort of property some sort of spooky thriller property i don't know yeah i think what do they say scary movie that's another canada rumor wait wait really who said that canada canada you're wrong canada scary movie they're a scary movie pin can we even envision that no it's not the movie scary movie just it's going to be based on a horror movie i thought you were talking about the fucking scary movie no oh that's what he talks about scary movie how does that even say i'm like what the how is that even in your umbrella of of things to think about it's not even crazy me wasn't thinking about that shit you just did no you said it ass i said it was a scary movie pin and i said i can't envision that you know what never mind let's move on listen spooky is gonna do a horror theme pin that's basically a scary movie i i hope that they can figure out to do how they can do it where it appeals to everybody not just horror buffs so we'll see how it goes well that's the most interesting part about it because they may cause nobody wants it he says i want a scary movie three pin go ahead no i was just i was just saying like you know i hope they learned a valuable lesson when they did rick and morty because it was such a popular theme now would they go to the scary movie route is it going to be as mainstream as well there's there's a couple things going on here because spooky doesn't you know they have limited runs right yeah so spooky wants to i'm not a huge horror movie fan but i am a huge spooky fan and what it's my commentary you let me It sounded weird. I love it, though. You're doing great. Because they have smaller runs, even though they're getting bigger now, which I think is awesome, if they want to cater to that smaller audience, they can do it, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
    67:56
    Do they have to start choosing stuff a little differently than Rob Zombie? I'm not even saying better. I'm just saying because Rob Zombie is pretty small, pretty niche. Right. But they only sold, I think, 300 of those, which was fine. But if they want to sell 750 and maybe get to the 1,000 mark, they could do that with a Friday the 13th or a Freddy Krueger, right?
    68:21
    Some slasher film. They could do that. Night of the Living Dead. I think they're doing the right size runs for that. Like I said, even though those don't really appeal to me, I think they can do it. But I also think that, yeah, having more stuff like Rick and Morty or Scooby-Doo or things that are more universal and still kind of in that spooky realm, maybe a little more fun and campy, I think that's where they should go. Got it. But I don't own a pinball company. No, you don't. In case you were wondering, folks, it's April 2021 and Drew still does not own a pinball company. I try every year. Every day. Every podcast. He's like, do I own one yet? And I'm like, not yet. Yeah, I go. One day. dude one day i sell a house and i'm like i could put a pinball machine in here i could i could make some pinball machines oh look at this basement folks isn this amazing basement ready for pinball machines and they like can you picture all the pinball machines in this kitchen They still make those What All right So anyway So what else we got? Well, so we got that. So yeah, who knows what they're working on. They're going to release it. Zando, Scooby-Doo. June, they said.
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    JJP, we know they're going to be making Guns N' Roses all year. Yep, and then going in a toy store. Yeah, which is, you know. AP is a whole lot of, whole lot of. Who knows? God. What do you think? Do you think they're working on a licensed theme right now? Yeah. You think it's Beetlejuice? No. No? What do you think it is? I don't know.
    69:53
    Well, how do you know it's not Beetlejuice? I'm challenging Ian today. If it is, that's great. You know, I wouldn't be... I'd be super excited if it was Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice or Scooby-Doo? If Franchise is doing the art, you would assume it might be Beetlejuice, right? What would you rather do? Beetlejuice. You'd rather have Beetlejuice? I don't... I'm a grown-ass. I don't want anything to do with cartoons. I've told you this too many times. No, you haven't. I do not want any pinball machine. I still don't understand. Related to cartoons. Why would I want a cartoon pinball machine? I don't even want a Toy Story pinball machine. You are such a grown-ass man. Yeah, give me alcohol. Give me murder. Give me 80s action movies. You can keep Futurama and The Simpsons and My Little Pony, dude. Ian's dead to me. He's so dead. We disagree on this 100%, and that's fine. We've always disagreed on this. Yeah, but I can't be friends with them anymore.
    70:45
    Thank you, Dalton. Beetlejuice all day long. Yeah. Why? Because it's a badass movie. You didn't even ask me. Yes. As much as I like Scooby-Doo, I would take Beetlejuice over Scooby-Doo. Oh, okay. Now he says that.
    70:59
    What is happening here? Why am I whispering? This is how we fight. Yeah. We don't want the kids to hear it.
    71:08
    Mommy and Daddy still love you. Yeah, don't worry. Don't worry. Everyone in chat, we still love you guys. Except you, Tim Lee. You're fucking dead to me and Zach. Oh, wow. I'm still... Well, that Futurama shit. Bullshit. All you guys. Gleno, Tiny Toons pinball. Now you're reaching, man. Meatloaf all the way from Spooky. All right. Gleno, I will one-up you and say Animaniacs I would do over Tiny Toons. Inspector Gadget pinball. That would be good. He is a closet cartoon fan. And I bet he cosplays as the man on the weekend. Mm-hmm.
    71:42
    Oh, He-Man. As He-Man. He-Man on the weekends. You know what? No. If I was going to cosplay anything, I was going to dress my wife up as Jessica Rabbit. And that's it.
    71:54
    True. Stop picturing my wife, you freak. I had to. I had to kind of go through that. You are dope. I know one. Tim fell asleep by now. You're right, Glenn. I know one that Ian would be into, a G.I. Joe from the 80s. Nope. No. I've changed my mind now. No, I would. I'd like that. But it wouldn't be based on the cartoon. It would be based on the toys. Man toys, tanks, missiles, lasers.
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    And I love laser war. So you think if they brought a G.I. Joe, a He-Man, or a Transformers, they wouldn't do the cartoon? I would hope not. hmm well maybe yeah they should they should yeah they should what else are you gonna do the live action movie man remember that oh my god ivan drago yeah yeah yeah yeah so bad that is the best he hasn't i can't i mean the the shout outs alone for a he-man skeletor like the skeletor was awesome in that he-man show the cartoon but oh yeah no it's uh it's it's classic Pinky and the Brain Pinball.
    73:06
    Bobby's World Pinball. That would make a good world under Glass Glen. The Three Stooges. Dalton, what are you talking about the Three Stooges for? That's silliness. Dalton, we have made our peace with Munsters, and now you want to bring back the Three Stooges. Pee Wee Herman's Pinball will sell. It will. It will sell. Pee Wee Herman's Pinball will sell. Hell yeah, it would. Bobby's World. No. There's no doubt about it. No. Rolling Stones Vault. Dalton, get out. Dalton.
    73:33
    you already had three strikes coming in yeah now you're at 10 get out i don't know what kind of game this is that you're playing you have this many strikes dalton whatever that is that's how many strikes you have all right okay let's uh let's go to game room porn let's just move on i'm sweating here uh all right should we guys guys want to do some game room board we do i'll answer for them they do
    73:59
    how'd that go for you push some more buttons oh wow such clean and polished it's so big and inviting don't move no i want to take it all in although that rubber looks a little big nice collection the pinball point of the week brought to you by the poor man's pinball podcast what am i doing nobody knows oh my god all right all right sorry i got distracted so somebody's living room or basement this is the living room oh my god are you married it's from heineken 621 is this man or woman married because like i see plants in the background so i'm assuming yes yeah i joke with my wife all the time i'm like what would you do if i set up a game in the living room and she tells me all the time i would cut off your balls and that would be the end of our marriage yeah well the two of them well yeah in more ways than one but the two of them that's angled so aggressively towards the couch oh my god i don't i couldn't focus on anything anything on the tv like whoa as much as i love pinball yeah that's like two big wooden penises looking at me when the closest i god i have a problem with penises was when i got my star wars they it was shipped on its legs right yeah so the guys brought it in to my living room and it's on its legs and i said to kathleen i'm like i'm just gonna leave this here that looks good yeah exactly i was like yeah good here kathleen she goes the fuck you will get that in your room so i had to take it off the legs and put it in the room i was like fine cool this guy needs the pirates of the caribbean topper yeah very cool get a hold of this guy he's got a trunk oh is that adam's family adam's family yeah adam's family looks like it's in pretty good shape from what i can tell and then yeah that pirates what a game when i play everyone is right that is one of the few wide bodies that does not play like a fucking wide body and and i understand the value of it not the 38 000 value of it I see the $10,000 value of it, right?
    76:27
    Mm-hmm. No. Should have bought it when I could. Yeah. I think a lot of people say that now. Well, yeah, and I just, you know, the theme doesn't do a ton for me. Jeremy Schmidt, can't have a game in the living room? Yeah, Jeremy. Yeah, Jeremy, the guy who has 23 games in his duplex. Yeah.
    76:45
    Okay, Jeremy. He has a mattress on five of them so he can sleep at night. Jeremy, are you giving out marriage counseling now? Please come over and talk to Kathleen. I'm sure she'll love to hear this. Oh, yeah.
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    But no, man. Shoot, if you're going to only have room for two, what the hell? Yeah. Not a bad two, right? No, it's definitely a good two. Yeah. Two very different games. Oh, yeah. And Pirates, as deep as it is, and Adam's family, as nostalgic as it is, people coming over, they're going to probably gravitate, funny enough, to Adam's family first. Oh, yeah. And then get to Pirates. Oh, yeah. Easy. And go, this is too complex. I'm going back to Adam's family. Can you see that in that scenario? I can, but the thing about pirates, though, just you look at it, and it just looks impressive. Oh, it does. It's a whole world under glass. Sorry I had to say it, but it is. You see the rocking ship. You see the chest. You see there's a million places for the ball to go. It's just awesome. So, anyways.
    77:47
    So whose room is this again? Like I said, Heineken, 621. Okay, we're going to call him Heine. Heine, good job, man. Great game, Heine. Or Lady. Very cool. All right. You need to get Pirates of the Caribbean top. If it's a lady, I can't make a joke saying I like your Heine. Nope, you can't. All right, and then the next room we're going to go to, this is Dave from New York. And this is a fucking crazy collection. You ready for this one, Drew? I'm ready. All right, here we go.
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    All right, so this is just one of three slides. So we got ourselves Secret Service. We learned all about that last week. We did. we did dirty harry roller games junkyard and elvira i mean right there that's a hell of a line that's a lot of fun check it out you have the alphanumeric you have the dmd you have the old uh data east you have uh a modern elvira yeah yeah it's that's a sharp look collection i mean that secret service just looks so good next to dirty harry just want to throw that out there and roller games dalton dalton says roller games and dirty harry two of the most underrated games ever yep i agree man roller games are we gonna have that debate roller games roller games they are underrated but not the most underrated games of all our games i feel like you're not listening to me drew very cool all right let's go to the next next slide here we go we're getting into the meat potatoes here so this is let's see here yeah we got all sorts of stuff going on here so this is elvira house of horrors um doctor who this is pinball let me stop you right there yeah doctor who uh i played again at district 82 i only played once when i was in seattle and i was really stoned by the way yeah um and and i enjoyed it yeah but you know i was i was really baked and i was playing it and i was like this is cool and i played at district 82 sober as hell and if i was a doctor who fan i would have doctor who in my house absolutely because that game that pinball game stripped of all the doctor who stuff is still an amazing fucking pinball game you know and i don't hate doctor who i just don't know anything about it i don't watch it it's not our thing yeah but holy crap what a great game so go ahead no since it's pinball that's a big guns and i never realized how big a big guns is look at that back box it's how big guns i didn't know they're gonna take that shit literally jesus anyway so there's big guns uh pinball magic johnny mnemonic and corvette at the end and then there's an em at the very end and i couldn't tell what that was and i played johnny mnemonic and corvette at district 82 as well good i'm so happy for you both solid games yeah good man no have you ever played pinball magic yes okay i saw that over at Dave Brennan's house. Yes. Or was it Ryan Kuyper? Probably Dave. I don't think Ryan has that. Oh, yeah. Probably Dave. Yeah. Pretty cool. If you're wondering who has the game, it's probably Dave. Probably Dave. Dave gave it to Ryan.
    80:58
    All right. So, very cool. All right. Let's check out the other bank. Ready? This is another impressive bank. You ready for this, Drew? Yep. Oh, my God. Oh, there she is. Earthshaker. Whirlwind. Earthshaker. Adam's Family. Last Action Hero. Tales from the Crypt, Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Twilight Zone, and the getaway. Jesus.
    81:21
    That right there, that's a classic collection. I mean, look at that. Look at that. You have two of Pat Lawler's disaster pins right next to each other. Then you have the Pat Lawler Addams Family right next to that. Last Action Hero is just a good game paired with Tales from the Crypt, two of data east you know classes those are two of data east best games yeah they are uh judge dread which has really grown on me i'm actually might be looking for a judge dread you know everyone gives me shit about uh papi judge dread might be a super pin i might actually get because that that'd be awesome uh demo man uh has grown on me and then what's the other one oh um twilight zone in the getaway. What can you say about the Twilight Zone that hasn't been said already? I mean, he's got probably $100,000 worth of pins in his basement, but no ceiling.
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    He's just got his installation. No drywall. He was just like, he said, honey, I want an electrician, and I want $100,000 with a pinball. That's all I need. What do you think my basement's going to look like when it's done? I should shut up. I'm working on my basement. What are you doing i got five games coming tomorrow yeah they're going working on it what a killer line i know that is serious that is serious so that is dave from new york but that's when you know people have problems because yeah they don't finish their basements and they're just like yeah we're just putting a sticker on the door that says arcade a couple cheap clocks and he was like fuck it you hundred thousand dollars worth of games you belong here sir what do you think this one is right here this blue one in the corner oh that's a good question see that is that the whirlwind maybe that must be the whirlwind yeah it's possible yeah hey he's got a cruising usa in the back there jesus he's selling that to make room for more pins dude seriously i mean your ass is the elbows in this basement filled with pens who needs a finished ceiling priorities yeah priorities right need room for the toppers zach would be proud yeah if we go to the ceiling we gotta fit some fucking thousand dollar toppers in here somewhere yeah that is a pretty incredible collection yeah that really is out holy shit well it spans the entire yeah yeah that's just great that might be a golden tea on the way back yeah so other than alvira right he doesn't have a single modern pin and yet this is the collection you want to have. Isn't it right? It's still super impressive. That's what I'm saying. It's very impressive, and he has Elvira, but that is it from the modern era, which is very, very cool. Yeah, he's old school. Yeah, I really dig it. Not super old school, but old school enough. Yeah, the DMD. He's really pushing those DMDs, so that's awesome. I wonder how much Elvira House of Horror gets played versus some of these others, because I really like Elvira. I love Elvira, but I don't know that I'd spend much time on it down there. Honestly. I'd be playing Earthshaker, Last Action Hero, Dread.
    84:35
    I'd try to get some time on Twilight Zone. It's a hard game to find if it's in good condition. That's very true.
    84:43
    Whirlwind is always good. Roller games, I'd get some play on. Junkyard is really moving up the charts. Yeah, that's another one of those. Yeah. Remember how Congo, you couldn't sell a Congo, and then all of a sudden, everyone was like, this is Congo! We're not doing that. Exactly. When we got into this hobby, Congos were literally $2,800.
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    Yeah. And now I saw someone, it was like $6,800, $7,000. Yes. I was like, what the fuck has happened? Yeah. You could get a Congo all day long. There was some for $2,500, I think. Yeah. And it wasn't that long ago.
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    Cavalier. System 11 Envy. Jack Rabbit, I was thinking the same thing. Glenno, is Judge Dredd a super pin? I haven't played it. It is. Dalton, just put a suspended ceiling over that bad boy. Let's see here. No need for the topper. Oh, need room for the toppers. Yeah, we need a finish. Who needs this finish ceiling, right? Let's see here. Nice. Close quarters. That's what I'm saying, man. You know, if I'm playing and I let out a fart, I'm affecting 12 people's game. what's inside my butthole i would love to have this i know uh dalton tspp is overrated hey man it almost won the overrated challenge on final round pinball well it depends how you i'm not saying simpsons is not like the best game it's not i love the theme it's been in my collection the longest uh there are better games out there i so you know it depends on your definition of overrated i have to defend it a little bit because it is a really great game um yeah i don't know that's a good question him baldock our price police came in uh rare to find congo last sale 5800 yeah yeah yeah they're they're up there because like i said i remember i would see them all the time i would see them and i you know i kind of i played it once or twice i'm like yeah it's kind of cool played at mgc i was like ah shit yeah i get it yeah i get it exactly such And you'd see them, and they were always, like I said, right around $3,000, maybe a little less, maybe a little more, but it was always right in that area. And then sometime in the last 12 months, it was just like, yeah, $4,000. And then it was $6,000. And then, yeah, they said $5,800. I mean, they are. Yeah, that was a little bit of a System 11 orgy in there. It was beautiful. Yes. Beautiful games, man. And the System 11s, I've been talking to a lot of people, and I'm still maintaining that most System 11s value for dollar is probably the best in pinball. There you go. Right? Yeah. You know, Mousing Around, Swords of Fury, Funhaus. Well, Funhaus is, again, pretty expensive. But F-14, you know, Grand Lizard. There's a ton of them. Diner. There's still Earthshaker. They're still the best value. Sure. Absolutely. No, I agree with you. I agree with you 100%. Because you don't have the DMD, you have the alphanumeric, everything's on the play field.
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    It's just good. Awesome, man. All right, well, again, thank you, Heineken621, and thank you, Dave from New York. Heine and Dave from New York. I appreciate it. So that was Game Room Porn, and everyone here is all jazzed up, because that was a lot of pinball right there, baby. That was. All right, so I think we're going to wrap it up, guys. I want to thank all of our sponsors again. Flippin' Out Pinball, let's get that going. Glenn just loves his freaking diner, man.
    88:14
    Glenn just wrote on here in chat, diner is greater than Earthshaker. What do you think? I like the shots of diner, but I can't play it very long. No, I can't play it very long. Earthshaker I could play a lot longer. I find it more interesting. But Glenn's coming at it like a competitive player like he is. He's a genius. So he sees these things. He sees how the rules stack up, and he loves the rules of dynamo. Glenn, I like drinking and having fun. I don't know if you knew that. That's my M.O.
    88:48
    So when the machine shakes, I love it. Yes. Let's see. Emily and Dr. John. Dr. John, thanks, all. Great to hang out. Thanks, Dr. John. Woo! Rachel Flips, great episode. No new episode from us this week. No worries. Good night, guys. Tony Scoot, thank you very much. Guys, thank you for being in chat. So flipping out pinball. Pinball, check them out. Also, who else we got here? We got Jay Sellers. Thanks for coming today. Jay, thank you, sir.
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    Pinswap, we got Pin Stadiums, Twip. Pinball Prices. PinballPrices.com. Thanks, Jack Rabbit. Thank you, guys. So I appreciate everything you guys do. And Jay Hawker, thanks again for the 10,000 bits. You are amazing. Jay Hawker, you are just, you drop it and then you leave. You're just like, I'm out. Mike Williams, thanks again for being moderator. We love it. Thank you very much, Mike Williams. Glenn O, you and I are going to fight tomorrow about Diner versus Earthshaker. We're going to meet at these coordinates, and we're going to fight it out. Remember, guys, MGC and Expo are coming up in a few months. It's really not that long away. Get your livers ready, kids. Make your plans. Get your hotels, and let's do this. Yes, absolutely. If you can't make one, make, you know, if you can only make one, make the Expo one because I think that'll be a bit of a crazier party. That's where more people are going to be. Yeah. Oh, did I tell you a real quick funny story? Jeff LaGrange, one of our tribe members, he doesn't spend a lot of time on Facebook. He sent us an email. He lives here in Milwaukee, right? He said, where's a good hotel to stay for MGC? We should be posting in Maryland. Yeah, I heard that. And he was serious. And he goes, yeah, because I don't want to drive. I said, that's cool, man. I said, I have no idea what the hotels are like in Milwaukee.
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    Because I don't spend a lot of time at hotels in Milwaukee. It was kind of funny. Yes, no doubt. It made me chuckle. All right, guys. Well, thank you very much. Have a great rest of your week. And we'll see you later. Thanks, guys. I wonder what the side of a pool. I wonder what to say to her Maybe there's fish and eggs, maybe there's aliens All inside her butt hole Maybe there's fish and eggs, maybe there's aliens All inside her butt hole I wonder what to say to her What to say to her, I always want to know I wonder what to say to her What to say to her, I always want to know What's inside your buckle? I always want to know. I wonder what's inside your buckle. Maybe you're an issue, not a danger, an alien. What's inside your buckle? I wonder what's inside your buckle.
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    What's inside your buckle? I always want to know. I wonder what's inside your buckle. What's inside your buckle? I always want to know. I wonder what's inside your buckle. What's inside your buckle? I wonder what's inside your book. What's inside your book? I always want to know. What's inside your book? I always want to know. What's inside your book? The views expressed on this podcast don't necessarily reflect the views of our sponsors.
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    Obviously, they don't really care as much as we do about buttholes and what's inside them. So thanks for listening, guys. Have a great day. Bye-bye.