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Episode 190 – Royal Edition

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 48m·analyzed·Jul 20, 2022
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt 190: 6-year anniversary ep with sweepstakes winner Justin; Toy Story & Cactus Canyon reviews.

Summary

Slam Tilt Podcast episode 190 celebrates the show's 6-year anniversary with guest Justin Fitzgerald, winner of the Project Pinball Sweepstakes who chose a Godzilla Premium. The episode covers Justin's origin story in pinball, personal anecdotes from tournament play, reviews of recently played machines (Toy Story, Cactus Canyon), and discussion of American Pinball's Legends of Valhalla pre-orders and licensing challenges.

Key Claims

  • Justin Fitzgerald won a Godzilla Premium in the Project Pinball Sweepstakes

    high confidence · Direct confirmation from guest; mentioned multiple times as 'Project Pinball Sweepstakes' winner

  • Toy Story pinball has noticeable input lag when hitting the flipper button

    high confidence · Both Ron and Justin independently reported lag; Ron emphasized it was immediate and noticeable when playing

  • Toy Story sling mechanism doesn't have enough power to drain; ball bounces back and forth like tennis match

    high confidence · Ron observed this across multiple Toy Story machines; Justin confirmed same experience on second machine played

  • American Pinball's Legends of Valhalla has around 600 interested parties/pre-orders for the standard version

    medium confidence · Mentioned from Super Awesome Pinball Show interview with Ryan McQuaid and Day Fix; Ron expressed skepticism about the figure's impressiveness

  • Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle is one of Spooky's best upper playfield designs

    medium confidence · Ron praised it extensively; disagreed with Bruce's criticism; called it 'best upper play field ever'

  • Toy Story Golden Eye lift ramp frequently doesn't have enough power to complete the ramp shot

    high confidence · Ron played it approximately 10 times; only made it 1-3 times despite accurate hits

  • Sonic pinball license holder is unknown; not Stern, probably not Multimorphic, possibly HomePen

    medium confidence · Brief mention suggesting industry speculation about unannounced Sonic game licensing

  • Cactus Canyon remake lighting is too dark and difficult to see the ball

    high confidence · Ron stated he puts his face to the glass to see; attributed partly to age but noted design issue with colored GI

Notable Quotes

  • “Stranger Things sucks... No, it is. The game is awesome.”

    Justin Fitzgerald / Ron Hallett @ ~11:30 — Justin's public apology to Brian Eddy for criticizing Stranger Things while drunk at Louisville Arcade Expo; shows community interpersonal dynamics

  • “How is there lag? I don't understand that. How can you have lag?”

    Ron Hallett @ ~38:00 — Expresses frustration with Toy Story's flipper lag issue; contrasts with lag-free Visual Pinball experience

  • “It shoots fine, and it's not for me.”

    Justin Fitzgerald @ ~38:45 — Concise summary assessment of Toy Story; becomes adopted catchphrase by Ron

  • “You got to sign the NDAs. Oh, yes, you got to sign NDAs. It's the NDA belt.”

    Ron Hallett / Bruce Nightingale @ ~31:00 — Joking reference to Deep Root Pinball's heavy NDA requirements and secrecy culture

  • “No one ever tries to make a bad game. And it's like, you know, I kind of believe that for everyone except maybe HomePen.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~59:30 — Critical commentary on HomePen's design philosophy and lack of commitment to game quality

  • “The summer of Ron not getting his cut still... Please do one more run, please do one more run.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~09:30 — Ongoing joke about Ron's delayed game arrival from sweepstakes/orders; references game production delays

  • “I've never once wore headphones while playing or earbuds. This game made me consider it.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~35:15 — Strong criticism of Toy Story's slot-machine-like music; reference to 18 years of pinball experience

  • “It's a memorial piece... Number 250 out of 500.”

    Justin Fitzgerald @ ~18:00 — Personal connection to Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle as tribute to deceased father; significant emotional investment in the machine

Entities

Justin FitzgeraldpersonRon HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonSlam Tilt PodcastorganizationToy StorygameAlice Cooper's Nightmare CastlegameCactus Canyongame

Signals

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Strong positive sentiment toward Spooky Pinball's design philosophy and execution, particularly Charlie's playfield design work; Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle represents emotional resonance (memorial piece) and mechanical excellence

    high · Ron extolled Alice Cooper repeatedly; called Charlie's work exceptional; contrasted positively with Rob Zombie's weaker design; Justin's emotional investment in memorial aspect reinforces brand loyalty

  • ?

    community_signal: Local venue The Local FFF at Rotterdam Mall investing in newer premium machines (Toy Story) and classic remakes (Cactus Canyon) despite technical issues; indicates location operator confidence in market demand

    medium · The Local FFF featured multiple new/upgraded machines; hosts tournaments; served as testing ground for Toy Story and Cactus Canyon despite known issues

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Flip Frenzy tournament format creates fairness concerns: scoring methodology unclear (wins vs. win percentage), variable game counts (9-12 games), mid-tournament ranking changes after player finishes, music volume affecting hearing/competition experience

    medium · Justin played 9 games vs. winner's 12; ranking fluctuated (2nd→3rd→4th) as others finished; Ron questioned percentage-based vs. total-wins scoring; music volume required toilet paper ear protection

  • ?

    product_concern: American Pinball's reliance on original themes (Legends of Valhalla with 'Galactic Tank Force'/'Galactic Strike Force' licensing) appears increasingly risky given market track record; speakers expressed doubt about original theme viability vs. licensed properties

    high · Ron: 'I wish Steve would actually get a licensed theme. Wouldn't that be a novel idea?'; comparison to Deep Root, Suncoast, and Jersey Jack's 'Dial Down' (original theme, poor sales); Day Fix cited only 600 pre-orders as justification

Transcript

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0:00
Let's try this one. Half haste helps, but whole haste hinders. Whoa, she just said butthole. Butthole. Butthole haste butthole. Butthole. No, no, Revis, listen closely.
0:20
Butthole. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm a rapper. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Chill Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Howe, and here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. It's the middle of summer, and it's almost our anniversary.
0:51
Whose anniversary? Our anniversary. We started in June. I know, but the first episode didn't come out until July.
0:59
Really? Yeah. Can you prove that? Jesus effing fucking Christ. All right. Hold on. And this is episode 190.
1:11
So where are you going to look at that, Bruce? You're going to our wonderful website, www.slamtiltpodcast.com? No, no, no, not at all. Oh. Where else did you get the information? I don't know. I'm going there. You know I am, you dick. Okay. First episode. Yeah. July 14th. Wow. Ooh. Holy fuckaloo. Wow. Two. Yeah. So this is, yeah. Yeah. What is this? Six years? Six years. Excuse me. You usually bust my balls saying I'm wrong right off the fucking bat. Don't worry. We'll prove you're wrong later on with other stuff we have. But we're not alone, Bruce. We're not alone. We have a guest. And we have the newest winner in everyone's mind. First, he's on the show. So he's a winner right there. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Oh, of course. But now we have the winner of the newest pinball. What the fuck is the fucking name? Okay, let me retake here with no edit. Yes, he is the latest winner of the Project Pinball Sweet Stakes. He won a game, a premium, I believe.
Godzilla Premium
game
Legends of Valhallagame
American Pinballcompany
Spooky Pinballcompany
Brian Eddyperson
Keith Johnsonperson
The Local FFFvenue
No Quartervenue
Game Galaxyvenue
Stephen Keelerperson
District 82 Super Seriesevent
HomePencompany
Jeff Teolisperson
  • ?

    design_philosophy: Cactus Canyon remake lighting design too dark for visibility; colored GI effects prioritized over functional GI brightness, creating ball tracking difficulty

    high · Ron: 'I can't see a fucking thing... I find myself putting my face to the glass to try to see the ball... There's something to be said for just plain old good bright GI on a game'; attributed partly to age but framed as design choice issue

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Toy Story represents step-down from Pat Lawlor's previous Wonka and Dalvin playfield design quality; playfield layout less engaging despite quality animations and light show

    medium · Ron's direct comparison stating Toy Story 'was a step down from Wonka and Dalvin as far as Pat Lawler's playfield design... those two were excellent, and this one was kind of a step down'

  • $

    market_signal: Project Pinball Sweepstakes generating significant participation and charitable benefit; winners selecting premium-tier machines (Godzilla Premium, Ghostbusters); production delays causing 'Summer of Ron' ongoing joke

    high · Ron and Justin both sweepstakes winners; Justin chose Godzilla Premium; Ron chose Ghostbusters; Ron's machine significantly delayed; repeated joke about delayed delivery

  • ?

    community_signal: Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle upper playfield designed with exceptional shot variety and mechanics; Charlie from Spooky receives credit for playfield excellence on multiple titles

    high · Ron: 'Best upper play field ever. No doubt... How many other upper play fields do you have that many shots from a little flipper?'; Charlie identified as upper playfield designer across Ultraman, Halloween, and Alice Cooper projects

  • ?

    community_signal: Jeff Teolis appearing in Toronto with Bruce in November (likely for tournament or media event); ongoing engagement with Pinball Profile podcast ecosystem

    medium · Bruce: 'Guess who I get to see in November, Ron, with Mr. Jeff Teolis... Steel Panther? You got it, baby, in Toronto.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Toy Story exhibits multiple mechanical and software issues: input lag on flippers, insufficient sling power (ball returns to play instead of draining), Golden Eye ramp insufficient power (~70-90% failure rate), ball trail visual effects, and slot-machine-like music quality

    high · Both Ron and Justin independently confirmed lag and power issues across multiple machines; Ron played it twice, Justin once; reported ~10 attempts at Golden Eye ramp with only 1-3 successes despite accurate shots

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Sonic the Hedgehog pinball license holder unknown and unannounced; speculation that it may not be Stern or Multimorphic, possibly HomePen

    low · Brief mention: 'the whole Sonic story was interesting... who has the Sonic license... It's not stern. It's probably not multi-morphic... Except, like, HomePen. HomePen, baby, here it comes.'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: American Pinball trademarked 'Galactic Tank Force' and 'Galactic Strike Force' for Legends of Valhalla; original theme licensing strategy continues despite market skepticism about original IP viability in premium pinball segment

    high · Discussed on Super Awesome Pinball Show; Ron questioned why American Pinball pursues original themes when licensed properties succeed better commercially

    • 2:17
    Hi, Justin. Hello. Great to be here. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Did you like that completely botched intro? Oh, I fucking bought a ton. Silence, too, where we don't even say Justin's name in an awkward fashion. I wouldn't expect it any other way. Exactly. Hello, Justin Fitzgerald, winner of the Project Pinball Sweepstakes. What game are you taking? That's a tough decision.
    2:42
    I'm not supposed to say hello, Ron Hallett, also a winner. Yes. Hello, Bruce, non-winner. It's got to put money in. I give the dogs. Yes, you do. So, yeah, I am going to be choosing a Godzilla premium. So now we have, I'm putting odds, he's going to get his before yours. Oh, that would really suck.
    3:07
    I would fucking, I would dedicate a whole episode to anything. Like, I would suck it up and take any bad topic that you would love to talk about, just so he gets the game before you. Is this still from Little Shop of Games? I believe so, I haven't heard. Yeah, so that would be cool. Congratulations, though. You must have been totally floored and shocked. I heard you do put a lot of money into it, though. From a little birdie in the sky, told me. Yeah, I mean, I've tweeted quite a few of them. But, hey, it's for the children. So that's the main thing. It's helping out the good cause. Save the children! Well, congratulations. That's very cool. Thank you. Ron also has won one. He picked a great game. I didn't have the choice. I had a Metallica on the way, so I really was either Walking Dead or Ghostbusters. And what did he pick? I picked Ghostbusters.
    4:14
    The thing is, I probably wouldn't have kept either one eventually. So, I mean, was it really? It was a win, either way you look at it. It was a win for you. It was not a Godzilla premium win, but no. So, Justin, the number one question everyone's been waiting for me to ask you. And it's the number one question on Justin's own topic list. It is. How did you get in pinball, sir? Yeah, I knew it was coming. So pretty much one of my first memories was at my grandparents' house. It's one of those houses where they tell you don't go upstairs because that's where they lived. They just kind of entertained downstairs. But, of course, I'm a rambunctious little a-hole. So I go upstairs and see a pinball machine. Of course, they were kind of hoarders. They had boxes everywhere. I seen a pinball machine just in the corner. Couldn't get to it. I was too small. And I didn't want to tell anybody that I went up there. So I obviously didn't ask any questions about it. But that's a memory that kind of always stuck in my head. And then I got into college, and by that time I was more into video games. But then I came across Pinball Arcade and played the hell out of that and really kind of got me into pinball. And that's kind of just got me first bit of it. And then once I got a little older, got out of college, I realized that there's actual pinball machines out in locations. I went out and started playing, and there we are. So I've been into pinball now. I've been playing competitively for about four years, but I've been playing for half my life. Okay. So you passed the David Fix test, so you can have opinions with us. Yes. Excellent. He'll be coming up later on. Oh, yay. So, how many games do you have in your collection right now, Justin? Currently have two Then, obviously, I have a third on the way Hopefully before Ron's gets here But probably 2023 Wow This is the new fucking joke I love it The summer of fucking Ron The summer of Ron not getting his cut still This is where you pray, please do one more run Please do one more run I'm probably right there, man I'm close
    6:41
    Well, Justin sent us some topics. Topics. And I like this. This is his second topic after the how I got into pinball was my asshole pinballer moment, a public apology to Brian Eddy. Yeah, that was kind of bad.
    6:59
    Back in, I believe it was 2020, I went to Louisville Arcade Expo and got a little bit too tipsy at the after party at Reg Bar up there. So it's a great little location. And Brian Eddy was there just kind of walking around during the tournament. And this is probably the drunkest I've been in my life. And I was just dogging Stranger Things had just come out. And I was just dogging him and said it to his face, man, Stranger Things sucks. And probably not my proudest moment. But I did end up talking to him about how much I loved Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness. We actually ended up playing a game of Attack from Mars. I did beat Brian Eddy in that game, even though I don't remember any of it. My girlfriend, now fiancee, Amanda, says I did win. So I believe her. And so he was super nice, and I was an asshole. And I would like to publicly apologize to Brian Eddy because the game's not that bad. No, it is.
    8:05
    The game is awesome. What's the matter with you people? Stranger Things is great. Great at what? Making you feel... Okay.
    8:16
    Steven does the... Steven, if it was Bruce, the story would be the same except for the drunk part and the apology part.
    8:24
    There's never an apology. We do not apologize. Here on the Slam Tilt Podcast... Well, Bruce doesn't, but yeah.
    8:32
    Ron apologizes for me. I was looking at you, you stranger. This sucks. Why couldn't you make Shadow again? It's such a good game.
    8:49
    Oh, well, your next topic, I like this one. We're just throwing the names out there. My fiance thinks Keith Johnson is a dick. Yeah, that happened recently. That was also at Louisville X-Wings this year, 2022, just a few months ago. Didn't drink as much. I wanted to remember this time. I didn't want to be a dick to anybody. So we're playing in the little after tournament there at Reg Bar, and the first round comes up, and my fiance, Amanda, comes up to me and says, man, this guy over here is just a total dick. What's wrong? It's round one. What's going on? But he's pissed off because I came late because we were waiting for the tournament to start. We were eating a burger there. They have excellent food. And he's just mean mugging me and giving me the evil eye. He's kind of, ugh, ugh. And I look over and say, which guy is it that's, you know, mad at you? She points over to the guy in glasses, and I just start laughing. I said, honey, that's the guy that's worked on the game that you're playing, or you just played. That's Keith Johnson So yeah She still thinks Keith Johnson's a dick But I think he's alright Not too shabby Yeah Well he made High Roller Casino so we know you're happy He did so that's why he's not too shabby Yep Not Lord of the Rings, High Roller Casino That's the reason High Roller Casino is his pinnacle His pinnacle I don't know What about Wheel of Fortune He's got his own little bubble Wheel of Fortune bad. He never got to finish it, let's be fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, supposedly there is a better copy out there, but only a couple people have it. Yeah, out there. Yeah. Somewhere.
    10:40
    Somewhere out there. Alright, next topic. I love it. We're just, see, if you want to be on the podcast, Justin took it to the next level. He just brought his own topics. He brought the A game. It's your B game podcast.
    10:58
    Oh, that's a good one. An A game too. It should be on the chart. It should be. You've really brought your A game today, Beavis. Yeah. My favorite line from the movie. Yeah.
    11:11
    Tournament talk. IFPA ranked 1,000, a.k.a. no one wants to hear from those good players. Mm-hmm. Are we good players? I'm at 1,000, so I must be a great player. Okay.
    11:25
    I don't know where I'm at right now. Ron Hallett, let's find out. I have that on my phone easily. Oh, you must have the IFPA app. I do. Oh, that's great.
    11:37
    Speaking of that, the Super Series, the District 82 Super Series tickets will be going on sale. This is for their four-day event in October. They will be going for sale on 10 a.m. Eastern Time, 9 a.m. Central, which is a half hour from now. So right in the middle of the podcast I am going to take a quick break And see if I can get in And you will learn my success or failure In real time Awesome You are ranked 211th Ron Alright maybe I can crack shot 200 at some point Maybe at the At this tournament Well yeah that's months from now That's what I'm expecting Let's move on to the other topic Why I bought an Alice Cooper A feel good story You have an Alice Cooper? Yes, that's my first new in-box pinball machine And, well, my second pinball machine that I purchased So, yeah, my dad passed away of cancer in 2017 To bring it down, but it does come back up So, one of his passions He really loved Alice Cooper He's probably one of his biggest fans So, I just wanted to have something to remember him by So, a few months later I saw that Spooky was coming out with the Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle, and it was just a perfect match for where I'd been. I'd been in a bad mental state from him passing away. So I'd just kind of been kind of deep depressed, just sitting at home playing pinball arcade. And then this pinball machine comes out, and it kind of really brought me back into it and got me back into pinball, got me into competitive pinball. started going out and talking to people, meeting people, and a lot happier today. So it's really a special pin to me. All the people that worked on it, I actually signed the back of the back box. So number 250 out of 500. I put a lot into it. I know Bruce hates mods, but this thing is modded out pretty heavily. But it's kind of a memorial piece. Nice. Best upper play field ever. No doubt. Right, Bruce?
    13:55
    Dead silence. He's so wrong there. How many other upper play fields do you have that many shots from a little flipper? That really suck? Yeah, there's a lot of that. All the shots are awesome. What are you talking about? Oh, God. They're terrible. They're great. Charlie should just be upper play field designer. That should be like his title. Charlie from Spooky. Just like in Ultraman and Halloween? He didn't do those. I know, but still. His kid and his future son-in-law did it, so. And here's your sign. Well, yeah. They should have had Charlie do the upper play fields. I mean, as bad as Rob Zombie is, I kind of like the little chicken thing and the bloop thing up there. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ, no. Okay. I don't agree with you there. That one does suck.
    14:41
    Well, the game sucks, yes, but. The whole game sucks. The whole game sucks? There's nothing good about that game. Okay. The music is the only thing good about that game. No, not even that. Aww. You should have a Steel Panther. Now, I will have a Steel Panther game. Oh, God.
    15:00
    Speaking of spooky, Scott Denisey was on the Loser Kid podcast. He was. Hi, Loser Kids. Boys. They were talking about TNA, and he wanted to clarify. You know, everyone's been saying, like, TNA 2.0, and he's basically like, it's not 2.0. It's basically going to be the same game, same cabinet, slightly different, I guess, the display panel, because he has a different, yeah, like a slanted display panel now. Other than that, it's just going to have all the mods that all the people have been selling for it are just going to come with it from the factory. And maybe some little fixes, minor tweaks in the software, maybe an extra multiball, but it sounds like he wasn't too keen on that. and that was it. There you go. But I thought, Loser Kids, you should have asked them, is it going to have all the hot glue in it? Is it going to be an improvement?
    15:53
    Is it going to be the no hot glue version? The no hot glue version, the most desirable version out there.
    16:04
    Guess who I get to see in November, Ron, with Mr. Jeff Teolis. Steel Panther? You got it, baby, in Toronto. Okay. Fuck yeah. Okay.
    16:16
    Maybe they'll play Tiger Woods, the Tiger Woods song, so you can hear our theme music if you do the better film, Matt. Yes. Oh, God. As your phone is almost dead. Bruce's phone is always at, like, 5% battery at all times. Right now it's at 79. Wow.
    16:34
    Yeah, but it's only 930, so. That's true. Let's see, the last topic we have for Justin is dick flippers What does that mean? Alright, so I just kind of wanted to wonder What kind of pinball side games do you guys enjoy? So we play around here a lot of stall ball You know, for Dollar Gentleman's games of stall ball Split flipper But once you run out of things to do You got to think of other ways to play pinball Just kind of liven it up Do you guys have any kind of side games like that that you like to play? We just throw dollar bills on the glass and block some shots. That's right, Peter. I think I know where this is going.
    17:19
    Well, that kind of moves into Dick Flippers, and where Dick Flippers came from is that we were at an expo one night and drank a little bit too much Fireball and ran out of side games to play and decided, well, we'll start doing pelvic thrusts. You get on one side, I'll get on the other. Oh, my God. It happened to be Dolly that we were on. And, yeah, you just flip with your thrust and see who can win. V and Ryan C did that at Texas Pinball Festival. Oh, wow. That did not surprise me.
    17:57
    We did split flipper, kick flippers, yes. Talvik thrust, yes. I don't remember what game we played, though.
    18:06
    I can't follow that up. No, you can't follow up with things. Justin also sent us, he did a promo for a championship belt for his local pinball league. So do you watch any wrestling?
    18:19
    I don't, no, but I just thought it was funny. I got the idea from Tommy Skinner up in, I think. Oh, yes. He watches a lot of wrestling. Yeah, so I thought it was a good idea. and I actually reached out to him and got his blessing, showed him what I made. And, yeah, I don't even, to be honest, I don't even know where the belt is now. The location that we were having the belt for moved to a larger location and kind of stopped doing pinball tournaments. So the belt is floating around there somewhere in Nashville.
    18:55
    Well, you know, brother, it's the deep root belt, brother. What would the deep root belt be? Would it have a pinball on it? It would just have like a bar going across it or something.
    19:07
    God. It'd be advertising for his games. Going across. You got to sign the NDAs. Oh, yes, you got to sign NDAs. It's the NDA belt.
    19:22
    So, actually, I could do a twofer here. There was a tournament at the local, my local location. Okay, so where's that, Ron? It's in Rotterdam Mall. And what's it called again? It's The Local. No, you said it was in Rotterdam. The Local FFF. Go fuck yourself, too. I agree.
    19:42
    Family, friends, and fun or something. Something like that is what it's supposed to stand for. But they got a Toy Story. Oh, wow. So you finally get to play a Toy Story, not at a show. Correct. I did.
    19:59
    Dead. Oh, no. You know the sling thing that I keep talking about that it does? It just goes back and forth like a tennis match? Yeah, this one did it too. And I've seen several videos online now of that also. The one I played, I played it recently, and the one I played also does the little palms back and forth. Yeah. And actually, you learn when you play it. Normally, when a ball is going to hit a sling, you bump the game. You learn with these. You just actually don't. It's actually you're better off. It's because it's never going to drain. It literally doesn't have enough power to bounce it far enough to get to an out lane. So you just watch it go back and forth.
    20:44
    Let's see. Now that I played a second one, it played a lot like the other ones I played. So Turd Arama.
    20:54
    They need to do something with the power. They need to up the power, period. the Canadian guy, that ramp thing, the Golden Eye lift ramp there? Yeah. The first time I hit it, I actually hit it. It made it all the way around, and that was it. Probably another nine times. I think three times I hit the ramp, and it didn't have enough power to actually make it. And all the other times I kept hitting the freaking post, the posts that come up. So the other times I was just inaccurate as hell. Well, what else is now?
    21:27
    Let's see. Let's do positives here Light show's good, I like the arms Call outs are good I like the fact they put a little Canadian maple leaf In the left in lane The Canadian guy And whenever it's lit, you know Okay, the ramp's going to come up I mean, shot fine I would say this is a step down From Wonka and Dalvin As far as Pat Lawler's playfield The actual playfield design I felt this was a step down from those two I felt those two were excellent, and this one was kind of a step down from that.
    22:02
    Okay, now negatives. Let's see. Okay, I'm going to sit back, get my cup of coffee, and go ahead and lay it on us. I hate the music. I know. Everyone says it sounds like a slot machine. I don't know what a slot machine sounds like. I just know.
    22:21
    I've been playing now for 18 years. I have never once wore headphones while playing or earbuds. This game made me consider it.
    22:31
    Wow. I'm actually going to the casino tonight, and it definitely sounds like it. It sounds like when you walk in the door. And, yeah, that's one big thing that bothered me about the game as well. I mean, it has some highlights. Like I said, the one where you're popping balloons and stuff, it sounds more like a carnival. That one I kind of liked. But most of the music in that is just, it's just, it's not for me. There, I'll say it in a nicer way. Let's see, what else? I really wanted to play that, what is it, Tiki Party? Is that what it's called? Yeah. That plays on the iPad there in the back. And I got to play that in one of the games. Hey! Let's see, two things.
    23:16
    The ball trails. I hate that. I've never been a ball trail fan. I know a lot of things do that. You hit the ball, and there's like a trail behind it. That just annoys me. I hate that. The second thing, though, I just couldn't believe it. It has lag.
    23:36
    When you hit the flipper button, it doesn't flip it immediately. And I don't get this. I got into pinball from playing visual pinball in the early 2000s. Visual pinball with pin name. on the computer and when I had my cabinet. That had zero lag. You hit the button, it flips immediately, you know, like a real machine. So, like, one of the first times I played, was it Pinball Arcade or one of those systems, there was noticeable lag. And I was like, how is there lag? I don't understand that. How can you have lag? Can I explain why you have lag? Why do you have lag, Bruce? Very simple. Most people out there are very slow, we call them. And by the time they react, it's actually normal for them. That makes absolutely no sense because it's exactly the opposite. I know. I'm joking. People are too fast. You see, that would have made more sense. That's got to be. No, no. Okay. I don't tell anybody about my fast drop. I hope they can fix that with code. I don't understand how you could possibly have lag. But there is noticeable lag when you play that. and that just took me out of it immediately. As soon as I started flipping, it's like, there's lag. What the fuck?
    24:51
    And it's a built-in excuse if I can't hit anything, of course. There's lag. But I just don't understand that. So, Justin, you've played this also. Yes, I've actually had the same. I'm pretty much right there with Ron. That part is laggy on the game that I play as well. It's just a fine game. It shoots fine, but it's not for me. that's the best. It shoots fine, and it's not for me. That would be, yeah, I'll steal that. The proper way. Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's a bad game or anything. It's just, and kids seem to love it. That's the whole point. I mean, yeah. Who's going to put it on location with the price of that? The local. They did. They got everything there. They got, you know, the Cactus Canyon remakes there. I really like that, by the way. It is good. I do like the Cax cane room, except the lighting. You know the thing that everyone says is great on it, that says it's the lighting? No, it's the opposite. I can't see a fucking thing. It's got all these different colored GI and shit, and where they have it, it's pretty dark. I find myself putting my face to the glass to try to see the ball. Well, you are old. Yeah, well, that's true. That is true. My eyes do suck. And when it comes to things like lighting and dark and all that, they really suck now. but I never have issues on a certain game.
    26:14
    There's something to be said for just plain old good bright GI on a game. Other than that, though, I really like that game. I'm looking forward to see what the new code is, too. I love what they did with all the animations. I'm really not into the extra big D&D and all that, but in this case, I will do a 180 on that. I love that. You like bigger is better, right? Big boy. Oh, I like all the upgraded graphics. except Stampede. I actually like the original Stampede because it looks so corny. If you remember the thing that's going across the screen, the other way. Yeah, I was disappointed when it wasn't like that. That was so goofy. I like that.
    26:57
    Let's see. Oh, yeah, and the tournament I played in there, it was a strikes tournament, three strikes tournament,
    27:03
    and I won. Wow nice do you see the enthusiasm from us Fuck you Rob We don care Okay Yes, there you go. Finally, let's get back to some pimples. Well, okay. I was also in a flip frenzy. Okay. Where was that? That was at Stephen Keeler's house.
    27:27
    Ah. Wow. His backyard is even more insane now. He got rid of the pool that no one ever used, and he's got another shed in there. So now he has three sheds. How do you have three sheds and have them all in your town, you know? Three sheds in the yard, yes. Well, the one shed only has one game in it, so the other two are full. Okay. And on his back porch area, he has a bunch of games. And, yeah, this was the second or third Flip Frenzy I played in.
    27:59
    I'm starting to... Dislike it. Well, yeah. I think there's got to be a better way to do it because I played nine games, Bruce.
    28:10
    I played one guy three times and another guy twice. So five of the nine games were played against the same two people. The person who won it played 12 games.
    28:21
    The people in second and third played 11. I played nine. I was in fourth. Better yet, when I finished, clock stops. Okay, no more new games can start. and I had just finished, just going up there to put my score in, so I'm done. And I'm second. Oh, I'm second. Oh, yay. And then as people finish up, now I'm third. Oh, okay, yay. Now I'm fourth. Ugh. Yay.
    28:49
    Now, I have a question for you, a couple questions. In the flip frenzies, were they doing percentage of wins or were they just doing wins total? That's the biggest question. That's the problem. I don't think it was total wins. It was some kind of formula, but I still ended up fourth. Yeah, it should be winning percentage. No, I think it was something like that. I feel that's better. Because if you lost, guess what? You take the hit percentage-wise. Win-wins, that's the worst way of doing it, I feel. Because then it's just like, you know, how many games can I get in there that fast?
    29:21
    The music was too loud. What? Yeah. I had to do the old toilet paper in the ear trick. So I didn't blow out my hearing.
    29:31
    The music was good. It was some D.O. I was rocking some D.O. It was just too loud because it's like right in the shed, and it's like right next to your freaking head when it's playing. It's like, Jesus.
    29:43
    But I think most of the people there are all metalheads who have gone to a zillion concerts and probably have worse hearing than me. So I turn it up. I can't hear it.
    29:53
    Turn up the radio. Where is your local location, Justin? Yeah, where do you play? So my main location is downtown Nashville, a location called No Quarter. It's a dive bar. It's really the place you want to go if you're going to get points around here. It's usually anywhere from 20 to 30 players each week. We play every Wednesday night, usually starting about 7. Then we also have tournaments a little further south, about 30 minutes away from Nashville at Smyrna, Tennessee, at Game Galaxy. It's run by Jason Wilson. He's an excellent player here He's the top player currently in Tennessee But he's got You guys would love it because he's got pretty much Almost every Stern Electronics game There probably got 140 Plus pins that's where I play Toy Story really excellent location So if anybody's coming down to To the Nashville area definitely check Out Game Galaxy and come to a Tournament No Quarter There you go I love the name No Quarter I do, too. They still use tokens, so, I mean, it's... Ah! I get it.
    31:06
    I know it's just a Led Zeppelin reference. And minutes, Ron. Ten minutes. I know. I'm looking right at the clock. So, American Pinball was on Super Awesome Pinball Show. They were. They had Ryan McQuaid and Day Fix. Day Fix, baby. Yeah! The American Gene of American Pinball. Did you know that legends of Valhalla have sold tremendously? They have 600 orders for the standard, which we haven't made yet. It's great, baby.
    31:35
    600? It says something like that, like 600, like interested parties. That doesn't sound right. No, that doesn't sound impressive at all. It sounds to me like it's a week of work at CERN or a month at other places or two months. No, this is for the standard, you know, the one they haven't made yet. I know exactly, but still, it doesn't sound very impressive. I don't understand his insistence on the whole original theme thing. I don't either. I don't get it. They trademarked Galactic Tank Force and Galactic Strike Force. Galactic Tank Force, huh? Tank, yeah. That's what this game is going to license to these. I hope Steve can change it and make something good out of it. I wish Steve would actually get a licensed theme. Wouldn't that be a novel idea? You mean Steve Bowden? Yes. You assume everyone else, you assume, baby, everyone else who we're talking about, baby. This is American dream of American pinball. We do original themes because that works so well for other manufacturers, baby. Other ones like Deep Root, Suncoast, whoever the hell made Mafia. I don't even remember that, baby. Who the hell made Mafia? I don't even remember who made that. European company that we never heard from since. Yeah. I mean, all these people are doing the original themes. They just don't do anything. What's the worst-selling Jersey Jack game of all time? Bruce?
    32:57
    Dial Down. There you go. I know you. Original theme. I mean, it's awesome, but, I mean, not everyone realizes the awesomeness, so. It is one of their better games. See? Justin's drank too much Kool-Aid. You're sucking up to the wrong person here, Justin. Who's the one that got you on? I'm just telling you how it is. Justice mentioned the drinking a couple times, so he might be inebriated right now. He must be inebriated. We're a little too early for that. DI is fucking great. It's better than Whirlwind. I love Bob Jeans.
    33:35
    Long is the length and slow am I. Oh, man. Ooh, seven minutes. Seven minutes. I've been on the ISDA for six minutes. Yeah, I've got to step away when it's time because I've got the wired PC. You know, I got everything ready to go for the maximum speed. So for six minutes, we can talk about tournaments that happened all over the area in the past two weeks. Here we go. Go, Ron, go. Did I finish with you? Was there anything else in that interview of note I'm trying to think? I mean, the whole Sonic story was interesting. And the whole thing about who has the license and no one knows who has the Sonic license. It's not stern. It's probably not multi-morphic. It's like they've eliminated everyone. Except, like, HomePen. HomePen, baby, here it comes.
    34:25
    And I love the one comment you hear, like, no one ever tries to make a bad game. And it's like, you know, I kind of believe that for everyone except maybe HomePen. Because I don't think Mike from HomePen cares. I don't think he cares. I don't think so at all. He was like, I don't know why we had to put a screen on the. DMDs have been good for 20 years, 30 years now. We had to put a screen there so we could show video. I didn't really want to do that. Like, uh, okay.
    34:51
    Well, I really don't want to start anything, because I want to get in a bigger conversation, and I only have six minutes.
    34:58
    Should I kill time by just doing voices? There you go. Hey, Ed, how have you been doing today? Oh, Stewie, it's been a long time. Ed, it's been wonderful. Have you grown up at all? What? No, I'm the same age. I never get any older for some reason. I don't know why. Why the fuck don't you get any older? How's it going, Justin? Have you ever played Family Guy, the pinball machine? Oh, no.
    35:20
    Yes, I have played it, and I'm sorry you're on it. Oh! Wow. Maybe you can give the talkie a strike. Oh, I have a time machine I can go back and make you never fall. So be careful what you say to me.
    35:37
    You don't like my upper playfield? The greatest playfield ever put in a game? I'm like Tiki Party, except the good version. That's why they re-skinned it. They re-skinned it, yeah, because they didn't sell anything. They didn't. No.
    35:50
    No one got it. No. They should have really pushed that to the college crowd. They would have been better off there. Yeah. You have Pat do the game when he doesn't like the theme. He basically came out and said, like, he doesn't like that kind of humor. Yeah. He's all into the family-friendly stuff. So, I mean, Toy Story was right. I mean, he'd probably love that. You can't get any more family-friendly.
    36:11
    Although, you know, he did make Earthshaker where she says, Bitchin! Or is that Whirlwind? Which one is Bitchin? Pigeon is Earthshaker. It is Earthshaker. Yes, I had that right. Pigeon.
    36:23
    Pigeon. Let's see. Well, plugs. Hey, Bruce. Yes. Have you been to the Rochester Pinball Collective lately? I have because I own part of it. And where is it? It's at 349 West Commercial Street, East Rochester, New York.
    36:39
    Are you on the toilet now? Is that – are you doing your matrimony? Yeah. I know. I was yawning and stretching. On the cream of the crop, yeah. But we do have a tournament coming up on the 30th. Ooh, July 30th? Yep. A mini-Penberg? You said the P-word. Oh, my God. Are you coming out to join us, Mr. Ron? Probably. Okay.
    37:06
    And I'd like to thank everyone. Stomp sold out in less than, I think, 14 hours, 15 hours. Very nice. Yeah, and we have a waiting list. We have a wait list. If you want to get on that wait list and harass Ron to get, you know, more people into his house, Ron's personal email is... Just let me know. For those on the wait list, when would you have to know by whether you can make it? There you go. Because I'll probably, probably a couple weeks before, I'll be like, yeah, sure, everyone can come in. I mean, unless it's ridiculous.
    37:39
    27 people on the wait list. No, no. All right, I've got three minutes. I've got to drop off here. Speak amongst yourselves. We'll see how we do. Yes. Okay. I was not going to go to that tournament. I don't have the money or the time off this rest of the year. I have other things I want to go do. Yeah. So, Justin, what do you do for real life? For real life? Yeah, I am a recruiter for a company that recruits people for some different facilities here in Tennessee and Canada.
    38:16
    So, I'm on the phone a lot. Unfortunately, I am getting a bit of a Canadian accent from talking to so many Canadians. But, yeah, it's not bad. It's fun work and not out there sweating too much. There you go. Can't complain. You come from Nashville. You live in Nashville right now. I've been there many, many times. I used to go down there for a lot of my customers just north of Teddy Bear Photographs, just north of about 15, 20 minutes north of Nashville. So I always go down there. The airport sucks.
    38:58
    I will say that. The airport does suck. But I know when I was there, they were doing a lot of renovations. Yeah, there's cranes all over town. It's crazy. They're doing all kinds of building and renovating. My wife wants to go back down there again because she wants to go to Jack Daniels again. It's about an hour and a half south, southeast.
    39:19
    Lynchburg. Lynchburg, yeah. Never been there. Nice. So you've been? No, yeah, I've been there. We came back just when COVID started. I was just coming. We got there, like, I think we were, like, the last day of the tours they had before COVID killed them for, you know, a couple of months, of course. And, yeah, we just got in, and then we drove back, and then we had the bar open for a couple more days, and then we had to shut it down, of course, for COVID for a while. Great thing. COVID's fun. Yeah. But now everyone just ignores it, except for new variants coming out, and everyone just goes, well, we're just going to live our life finally. I mean, you got to. I agree. Really, there's too much to live for to be cooped up in the house just waiting to not get COVID. I totally agree. So it's 10 o'clock right now. Ron's printing that F5, F5, F5, F5 We'll see his disappointment Or his unbearable He's either gonna come back giggly Or he's gonna come back You know guys I don't know On the wait list Fuck But he'll make it in Cause usually He's been on the wait list Yeah, 57 I'm 64th on the Pinsonati wait list For the tournament So I guarantee That's a big old no for me on the old Cincinnati. He puts in the wrong email and Stu gets in, but Ron doesn't. Stu does get in. That would be awesome. Oh, but he couldn't because he's banned from the IFPA. Well, he could be a suppressed player and just go for the money. Hey, that's something Stu would do. It would be something Stu would do. Stu loves money. That would be awesome if he could do that one time, suppress himself and then go in as Stu the whole fucking weekend with the shirt, different colored shirts of the glossiness. Oh, yeah, he'd have to be all in. He'd have to be all in. I would actually pay for his entry fee if he did that for four days.
    41:22
    Just the entry fee. I wouldn't pay for his flights or anything like that. Oh, that's getting a little too crazy.
    41:28
    Exactly. Okay, it's 10-01 and still nothing from Ron. He's still mashing. Fuck it, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I'm waiting for him to hear swearing in the background. What the fuck?
    41:40
    Well, it said success. Oh, success. But we'll see. It did die, as I figured. That site always kind of partially dies, but you've got to be patient. It will load eventually. You can't sit there just like, submit again, submit again, submit again. No, don't do that. So we had a thought while you were gone. Uh-oh, a thought? Yes. we would actually one time have you suppress yourself as Stu McVickers, so you would not get any IFPA points, and play all four days as Stu. And then I would pay for it. I mean, I'd have to F Stu. I know that exactly, but I mean, you'd have to get different shirts. You can't wear the same shirt.
    42:24
    I don't know about that. I like playing. Stu sucks. He's not that good. I know he's not. He thinks he's this legend, but he's not. I mean... Alleged to his own mind. He lost the game to David Dennis. I know. David Dennis of my other podcast, Silver Ball Chronicles, as can be heard on the Pinball Network.
    42:43
    There, plug. Plug is in. Let's see. District 82. I'm going to check it from here because according to what the site says, my name should just pop up. Watch, it won't. It'd be fucking awesome. Not really.
    43:00
    Here we go. Let's see. Let's see if the site loads at all. It's not even loading. Ah, nice. Everyone is pounding it hard.
    43:11
    Oh, my. Yeah, it won't even load. Yeah, it died. It died, Jim. So hopefully when it said success, it was actual success and not fake success, like it just timed out. It's Seth. You're on the wait list. Yeah, Seth, you're on the wait list. I'm on the wait list for Cincinnati 64th, Ron. You think I'm going to get in? No. Of course not. You're also on the wait list for, we're both on the wait list for 24-hour, and that's not happening. I haven't asked him. Well, I have a better chance than you. Well, yes. Yes, you do.
    43:46
    Oh, wait a minute. Okay, it's trying. In real time, folks, this is exciting. I'm in. Oh, you're into the site, finally? I'm into the first page, and I'm now trying to wait. Does it have a list of people? No, I'm still waiting. It's slowly, ding, ding, like, I mean, like. Yeah. Is this, there we go. We are in. Eric, you need to upgrade. You're too popular now.
    44:10
    Oh, my God. Look at all the names. I'm trying to get into the Super Series. All right. Well, according to this, I'm in. Okay. I have to pay before noon tomorrow.
    44:23
    Jack Tadman's going to be there. Oh, Canada. Remember when they would have the Rochester, was it Western New York versus Canada? It was like Rochester, no, Buffalo versus Canada. Well, hold on. Jack Tadman's in there three times.
    44:39
    Remember when they would, yeah, because he must not have been patient. So when they would have the Buffalo versus Canada thing every year, and Canada would just win every year. Yes. Come on, Buffalo. 150 full.
    44:54
    Jermaine's in. Look at Josh Sharp and Zach Sharp. It pays to be in the IFPA, obviously. Yeah, because they got pre-end. You just get pre-end. Pre-end. Yes, that's a word. You beat Tim Sexton at it. Timmer.
    45:08
    Not a lot of... Don Matthews made it in. Sunshine Bond. All the usual people you would expect to be entered into this. Oh, Carl D'Angelo is going to be there. Hi, Carl.
    45:20
    This is scintillating listening, too. Yes, it is. Okay, so let's go back. Let's go back. So, yeah, there was some tournaments that happened. since the last time we recorded. There's a North Kentucky tournament that was at, I think, Chuck Wirt's house.
    45:35
    So the stream was flawless because it was his own stuff in his own house. That's always the advantage there when you have your own setup that you use all the time. You probably won't have an issue. Unless you're at RPC. Then you have, like, just rogue radio waves that screw up everything for some reason. Well, we did move some games, though, for you there. Oh, okay. Let's see, there was another tournament in Canada somewhere. Oh, Canada.
    46:05
    Sorry, I don't have any of the winners here. I failed miserably. Failed. I just feel we have to mention tournaments, you know, because everyone loves tournaments, big time. Exactly. Tournament talk is great. But Bruce did bring back one little thing that he hasn't done in a while. What is that? Game you like, game you hate, we need from somebody, and it's going to be Mr. Justin. Very good. All right. Game I like. I'm going to go with... Stranger Things. I'm just kidding. Just kidding.
    46:34
    Yeah, that's... That's not in the second half of the show. That's not in the second half. Hold off for that for a second.
    46:41
    I mean, I'm kind of biased. I'd probably say Alice Cooper. Game I love. Not going to get rid of it. Godzilla is also awesome. Can't wait to get that. I'm with you guys. I love Stern Electronics games. I like those older, older Stern Valley type games, except for the game I hate, which is BMX, Dungeon and Dragons. Any game where I have to push extra buttons. Yeah. For a freaking in lane. Come on. That's right. I'll get up there and I'll tell myself, okay, I got to hit this button. Got to hit this button. Always freaking forget. Very fast. Gone. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Every time. Or you hit it. You hit it because you think it's going to go in there and it doesn't. and then it won't go the next time you hit it because you just hit it. Yep. You need to throw them off the roof. Give them all the Todd Tucky.
    47:31
    God. I kind of like BMX. I like the theme. I just don't like the lanes. I have to agree with him on that one. Doesn't it have the beginning, the skill shot? It goes do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do as the thing strobes. I think it makes a sound. Maybe. I couldn't hear it because the only one I've seen on location besides Chuck Webster's is Yeah, that's the one I played. They have the District 82 also. Oh, they do? I must have missed that. It's right behind. It's the opposite of a Championship Hub. Oh.
    48:07
    Yeah. Well, they move stuff around, so. I know, but that's where when you were there last time in the Championship Hub, It was the opposite of it. Mm-hmm.
    48:16
    So, another bit I brought back. Oh, what did you? Okay, what did you bring back? eBay time. Oh, wait a minute. Save that for later. We'll put that at the end. Okay. Oh.
    48:30
    We've got to talk about how Bruce was wrong again. Okay, well, let's go right to the eBay thing. Here we go, guys. No. We talked about how... It's got to be... I want Bond. Fuck this fucking... Bruce basically said the next game is going to be Bond, Gomez. And I was like, no, I think it's going to be Venom, the Eddie Venom game. And it looks like it's going to be the Eddie Venom game. Do you know why, Bruce? Because they're going to a pinball show they've gone to. No, no. Stern is going to be at the San Diego Comic Con, which I believe is like the biggest one, isn't it? And it's been there three times or four times before this. Yes. They're sharing a booth with special guest Todd McFarlane, who is the creator of Venom. Of Venom. And Ozzy Osbourne. Oh, God. Yeah, that got everyone. There's going to be an Ozzy fan. There's going to be a Sabbath fan. There's going to be this. You motherfuckers, you don't make a pinball machine for me, but you make a pinball machine for fucking Venom? What the fuck? No, no, I could understand what you said, so you already can't be awesome. That's better.
    49:31
    This fucking Venom was good. This ball was good. What the hell is a fucking pinball? Ozzy fucking Ozzy, man. There you go. It's like Boomhauer, except... I'll tell you what, man. Where's my King of the Hill pinball, man? Now, that's what we need. The King of the Hill pinball would sell gangbusters. I'll tell you what, man. Talk about, you know, they buck up and buck down, buck round. He's going up, down. They'll slim. They'll kill. The Toy Story slings suck, man.
    50:05
    Thank you. Yeah, so everyone is, you know, there's going to be Venom there, but I think it's going to be Venom. I'd love them to put out a bond. It'd be just great, like, here you go, guys. Put a bond in the Venom group. You got it. In the Venom booth, yes. That would make total sense, yes. Isn't Venom a Marvel license? Yes. But Todd McFarlane is the president of Image Comics, so do we think there's a conflict of interest there and it might not be Venom? Hmm. That's a good point. What's the possibility that they vault The Walking Dead and make it a Walking Dead comic edition? Because Kirkman is also at Image Comics that made The Walking Dead. Justin is a man. You heard it here. He's our new correspondent.
    50:51
    Yep. So, I mean, I could see a Walking Dead game with an Aussie song. They throw in an Aussie song or two, make it the comic edition. There you go. See it happen. All right. So maybe it will be Bond. Maybe it'll blow our minds and just totally, they're totally trolling us here. Because we know Stern has no issues trolling. They love to troll. Oh, did you see the new t-shirt that Stern's selling? Oh, the one with the shark on it? No. Oh. They have a classic Stern emblem. They do? On a shirt, like an old 70s style gold ring around the arms and the neck. With the logo stern and gold, I bought one. Wow. Is that the one they gave you the wrong size? Yes.
    51:41
    How much does that set you back? $34. For the wrong size. What size is it? It's an extra large. Oh, and you're like super extra large. I'm triple X. No, I'm double X. I want to have a little room with it because it is 50-50. You're not that big to be double X. It's just because you're so like just thick and buff. That's the best.
    52:04
    From his power lifting days. Yes. I could see one of those world's strongest man carrying the balls around. You know, the big, you put the balls up on top of the thing. The refrigerator race. He's got the truck behind him.
    52:21
    Bruce is going to pump you up. Pump you up. You need a really foreign sounding name, though. A really European name. Sergey, jack me off.
    52:39
    I am here to do this for you. I am going to move your balls around so much you will like it. Bruce Nuttengaleowski or something like that. Look how small they look in my gigantic hands.
    52:58
    Okay. I wanted to put this one out here. Okay. Bringing it down again. Sorry. Raphael Lankar. Yes. Probably saying that wrong. From the Paris Pinball Museum. Passed away.
    53:14
    He was like in his 80s. But I see his posts on Facebook all the time from people visiting his pinball museum in Paris. The Paris Pinball Museum. He had over 450 wood rails in older games there. so always have the moment of silence yeah and they don't know what's going to happen to the museum right now no they don't that's the scary part which kind of goes back to the things we talked about as far as go to these places when you can you never know when they'll be gone because most of these places don't have any kind of succession plan usually when the main person does it goes stuff gets broken up and that's it so don't wait go out there get it done I got a thing adding right now to the list I'm adding something Penny Epstein listed something six days ago very important today there is a new suicide hotline only a three digit number now it 988 so if you have any issues with thinking about possible intense sadness lethargy lost appetite and you need to talk to somebody now it just a three number which is 988 which is very important for everyone.
    54:32
    988. Yep. That's a great thing. And hopefully it does do good for somebody. If it helps one person, it's helped everybody. because when that happens, you know, it affects a lot of people.
    54:48
    That was a downer in some ways, but a good news because they're trying to prevent stuff, which is good.
    54:54
    Let's see, what else do I have here? As we're recording, there are just more pinball action going on. Oh, my. There's the Southern Fry Gaming Expo. They're flipping balls as we speak. Which I'd actually like to go to that some because if I recall, isn't that the one that has a wrestling show as part of it? Yeah, I've been there. It's an awesome little show. And, yeah, they've got one whole room is just a big wrestling ring. Yes. It gets crazy in there, too. You wouldn't think that these pinheads would like wrestling, but they do a good job of it. So it's definitely something to see. Wait a minute. I would totally think pinheads would love wrestling. What are you talking about, brother? Did you know Roger Sharp, wrestling fan? At least he was at one point. He was. Yeah. He used to watch pro wrestling from Florida, which means he probably saw me, baby, because I used to be on there. The American dream. Dave Fix was wrestling right in front of him. I'm surprised he didn't grab him at that time. We don't brother come to the Southern Pride Gaming Expo, dude. It's going to be great. Oh, Ron, we do have a special guest for Stomp, don't forget. We have a special guest for Stomp who? We talked about this. We did? He's going to be giving and receiving autographs. Oh, okay So we do have somebody special So if you really want to come to Stomp this year Put your name on the wait list Because you're going to be able to meet somebody Yep And remember, you will be able to sign If you've never been there before You will get to sign George Yes, George Takei Yes Stay by Dave Wright Bruce, you fucking asshole He didn't want to come on our show, so fuck him Did we even ask him? Yes, we have. But it's like he didn't hear about it. I know. He didn't accept the invitation. He didn't hear, so he's an asshole. Very good logic for us. No, because his watchers, his people who stopped him. His watchers should have done it for him. Okay. Exactly. You see what I have to do with Justin? This isn't a gimmick. It's like this all the time. I should ask the sanctum if they've updated their list yet, the wait list, because it's still on the same. No one's dropped out. Everyone loves it.
    57:11
    I'm going to ask him right now. Luckily. We also have the Brisbane Masters going on. Yeah, so it's actually, it is 12.30 at night there. And I guess the consensus is that Escher and or Seabound will win everything? Of course. Because I think the last time they had this, I don't think an Australian won anything. No, I know. Or maybe they won one of the pre-tournaments. Yeah, I think it was one of the little pre-tournaments. Yeah, but all the main tournaments were won by Americans.
    57:39
    U.S.A. It's America. America, baby. We know pinball. We know about hitting balls around. Yeah, flapping them and holding them in our hands.
    57:51
    Oh, my. I love when I have notes here and I don't even know what they mean. Wow, great. Oh, no, that's because you told me to write this down. Portal Pinball. Yes, Portal Pinball reopened in their new location, which is about 20 minutes south of where they were, right by Atlanta. He now has alcohol, and he has a whole new location, better mall, with more modern locations around him for shopping, so he will get hopefully a nice walk past his building coverage. But I'm wishing him all the luck. He just moved in this weekend. They had their pre-opening days, like a couple of, you know. Okay, who is he? We said Portal Pinball. I am Royals. Okay. Because I don't think his name is Portal. Hello, Mr. Portal.
    58:39
    Congratulations, Brian. I know it was hard work. He's got a lot of work ahead to make pinball better, but he's doing a great job starting with alcohol at his place, and he's open seven days a week at his location. They're called Beer Seal for a reason. Yes. Alcohol always makes pinball better. It does. I guess. Wow. Justin's our expert.
    59:02
    Let's see. Oh, ball bag. We got a pretty full ball bag this time. I was always full, baby. I'm married.
    59:14
    Oh, man. I have nothing to follow that. There you go. All right. Let's go to the ball bag. We have an email here from Raymond. I wonder who that can be. It says, hello, Ron and Bruce. Last week you mentioned certified tournaments in Whopper 5.8 now require 128 players, but I'm going to have to correct you. 128 players is only the minimum for the certified plus grading, which comes with a 150% boost. Yeah. Certified tournaments have actually removed the 64-player requirement, and now the boost is 25% instead of the previous 20%. Whopper inflation for everyone. Ray Day. Hello, Mr. Raymond. Thank you. When I read that, I feel like Homer. You know, it's like, oh, no, no. I literally just spaced out. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. Certified. You have to be a mathematician to understand that. No, you have to be a mathematician to put in any baseball golf score. No. I'm in a discord, and when they start talking about this stuff, I just zone out. Like, I just don't know. I think this is more you and Zach talking back and forth about this. I was just like, whoa, do I still get something? Cool. I get pretty voices, right? I get points, right? I like points.
    60:40
    Okay, we have an email from Chris. Hi, Chris. Let's see. Fulfilling what Ryan C. can't. I think this is the John Norris game that Ryan C. said we pronounced wrong, and then he said he was going to send us an email to say how to pronounce it, and then he didn't send us an email. Nice. So I have the actual name here. What we called it, I think, Champs Elysees, because it's spelled C-H-A-M-P-S and then E-L-Y-S-E-E-S, Champs Elysees, which I guess is wrong. So let's see. According to this, it's Champs Elysees. I like ours better. Champs Elysees. There you go. Those fancy Frenchies. Yes, it's very French. You're going to play with your pinky L. Oh-ho. I will give you what I get while you play this game.
    61:35
    So wait a minute. You've suspended Italians. Are you guys French? Is this going to be the new thing? Oh, that's too easy. That's like a fucking game. It's like a softball. Are you just going to say, like, you know, we retreated. You're just going to use the retreat line. Okay. I have a gun. Never used. I only dropped one. Oh, yeah. I've heard that one before. That is a good one.
    62:00
    Okay. This one's from Frank. Hi, Frank. We know Frank. Hi, Ron and Bruce. Just thought I'd share my thoughts on Toy Story 4. I, too, is a pintastic and got a lot of time playing the game. I arrived early Thursday afternoon. Place was still pretty empty. Why am I reading it like this? I'm reading it like in a real way. Like a creepy pedophile guy. Here we go. Yeah. All right, pretty girl. If you were, yeah. What's his name from Family Guy? The pedophile. Oh, what the fuck is his name? Herbert. Yeah, if Herbert was that fantastic, he would have planted himself right by the Toy Story area, no doubt. All right, boys and girls, you want to play some favorite guy? Got a pinball in my pocket if you want to reach down and get it.
    62:51
    And he could have brought Jesse in there with him because they let animals in there. Come on, Jesse.
    62:58
    Wow, this one. I had an LE pass, which let me into the extra ball lounge. Oh, my. Is that the Tim Jackson lounge?
    63:09
    I had the lounge to myself, and there was a Toy Story 4 in there. Okay, so it's in the special room. So it was just me and TS4. Got to play many games in a row undisturbed, and I must say it was a lot of fun. I didn't have any issues with weak flippers or slings. Everything played like it should have. So that was probably owned by someone who cranked up the power. I guess the issues we were having probably were caused by voltage issues once the convention was in full swing. Gameplay great, shots were smooth, and the kaboom shot was very satisfying. Plus, it's a really pretty game, but it's certainly not for everyone. It seems to be aimed more to the casual player, home buyer. I enjoyed playing it. I'd probably put some money in it if I found it on location. But I have no interest at all in owning it. But if it's part of a lineup of other games, it's certainly worth a few plays. Anyway, that's my two cents. Keep up the good work. Thank you, Frank.
    64:07
    So Ryan C sent us an email. Ryan C. I think this is because we talked about the scaring leaderboards and the fact that they were only for a certain amount of time for each game. 14 days. Yeah, and I think I was like, what do you win? And it's like, you don't really win anything. Well, what's the point? Like, should you win something? So Ryan sent an email, says no free T-shirt for coming in first on a global leaderboard. Three free T-shirts for somebody. Three free T-shirts for a Facebook post. I like it. Yeah, so, yeah, they did a new merch for CERN. We're feeling generous. So comment below for a chance to win some new swag. Three lucky winners will receive one of our new T-shirts featured above. Yes. So you just made a comment about a social media post, and you can get a T-shirt. But if you're first in the leaderboard, you get nothing. I think they posted the winner's name. Yes. So you get the adoration of your friends. There you go. Oh, and this is the shirt you were talking about with the old Stern logo. Yep. Very nice.
    65:09
    All right, last email. Thoughts from Glenn. Oh, God. I love it. I'm friends with Glenn. Yes, he said hi. He told me. Oh, yeah, he's got your name on here. Justin. Ron. Bruce. Justin. Okay, it's a hypothetical. The year is 2030. And other than Slam Tilt winning seven straight trippies, the only surprising news is that Haggis wrapped up their five-game classic line and has now acquired the Stern Electronics license. They can choose five games for Martin Gogib as 2.0 treatment two. What five games would you choose? Quicksilver? Yeah, if they want to sell games, those are the first two. Quick Dragon and Stargazer. Those are the easy ones. Is it Dragon Fist? I just... No one knows about Dragon Fist. It does not have... That's why it needs some attention. Meteor and Stars. Yeah, Meteor I put in there. I don't know about Stars.
    66:07
    Stars, brutal, but you can make the rules do something a little differently, maybe. Which is funny because different people have already changed the rules, had special versions of Meteor and Stars. I know.
    66:19
    If you're including Widebody? See, that's the thing. I don't know. If you include Widebody, then I would say, like, 2000, possibly.
    66:27
    And, uh, Hurry. Hurry. Oh, God. Let's try to do it, each of us do our five. I would definitely, we'll probably all have the same first two, because Stargazer and Quicksilver. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Because they made almost none of them, and everyone wants them, and those are the ones that are super expensive. You would never do Sea Witch because they already did that. It's called Beatles. So I'll do Meteor. Yep, that's a three for me on Meteor. It's the last two that I just don't know what I'd pick. Stars for me. I wouldn't pick Stars. And Dragon Fist. Dragon Fist and Stars. No one's going to. If you're going to go regular body. This is a tough one.
    67:04
    The last two are really tough for me. For Holly. Eh. You could use a rule change a little bit. Little tweaks.
    67:12
    You can show Ali going through the fights through his career. I'll go crazy. Flipper.
    67:21
    If you're going wide body. I was going by regular size. Yeah, go Flipper because, I mean, with newer rules and stuff, you could probably figure out a better way to use that turret. Totally agree.
    67:31
    Justin? Yeah, mine's the first two, of course, the same. See, my third one's Dragon Fist. I like the Flight 2000. I think that could do something interesting there with the code. And my last one, I'd probably stick with Meteor for the last one. So, yeah. Okay. My last one will be Gamitron.
    67:53
    It's not a story machine. It is. I know it is. I agree totally. So how about you, Bruce? Oh, you said yours. I said mine already. I'm way ahead. What were they again? It was the two normal ones, which would be Quicksilver and Dragon Fist. And Stargazer. And Dragon Fist and Stargazer. And then Scars and Meteor. Okay.
    68:19
    If we're going by regular body. And Glenn's email at the bottom of it says, sent from my porn downloader. Good. Excellent.
    68:27
    Wow. Sounds about right. Yeah. That sounds about right. keep on wanting to have him on, but I think he's got a special contract. Or he's just special. Special contract.
    68:39
    Alright. Oh, man. The tip of my pen just flew off. Oh, my. I lost the tip of my pen. It just blew all over the place.
    68:51
    No, it literally flew off and has disappeared. Weird. Weird. You know what's weird? I keep getting name-dropped on other podcasts, I notice. Like what? I don't know why. Am I that popular? I've been name-dropped on the Eclectic Gamer podcast. I've been name-dropped on the Pinball Show. I've been name-dropped, I think, on Pinball Profile. Is there another Ron in Pinball? I think there is. Not when they say Ron Hallett Jr. every time when they say the name.
    69:19
    But, yeah. So, thanks for the shout-outs, guys. That is nice. I'm Mr. Name-Drop. Okay, Bruce. We're ready for you. We're ready for eBay fun. So what everyone needs to do is pull up their eBay. Pull up their eBay. I'm doing it right now. Oh, wow. Yeah. Bring up your web browser and go to eBay.com. Unless you have the app, then you can go and check it out. That's true. And then in the search box, you are going to type in the number that Bruce is going to say. And what this is is, and this is great for if you're driving in your car and you can't look at any of these. It is, but you'll hear reactions live. You'll hear reactions in real time, and the market is crazy as it is. So I'm curious to what you got for us. Oh, yes, I got a lot of them. I got like seven or eight. Wow, great editing. All right. Yes. All right, see? I had to make our guest feel special. Yeah. Two, three, four, five. It's almost like my combination of my... Luggage? Yeah.
    70:25
    936-808-52. So the combination is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Oh, it's rare. I do really like this table, though. Not this version, but... Oh, this play field looks rough.
    70:45
    Oh, man, it's in my area. Yes, it is. It's in Del Mar. Yeah, I know. I found this for you, Ron. I could be there like 20 minutes or so. Yep. To pick up this $4,000 rare Viking pinball machine. Bally Viking.
    71:01
    Let's see. The great spacing with the description. All the pictures with the glass on. Let's see. Turns on and runs. Okay, that's good. Yeah, let's look at the pictures. With the glass on, yes. Why is there the first picture? Why is there a pinball just resting on the flipper?
    71:21
    How's that even happening? Can I buy the golf clubs behind it instead? I want the tire. There's a pair of shoes there, too. It looks brand new. Oh, yeah. I like when you say it works, but you have no picture. Never show it on. The back glass, I mean, it looks okay, but it's not on, so you can't see anything. The back glass is pretty good. Usually they peel on the bottom, so it is a pretty good back. Yeah, how is the ball just sitting there? It's probably stuck in the wonderful flipper hop that these games have, but the game is off and you have a pinball just sitting on the flipper.
    72:01
    The play field is just massively warm. Oh, it's bad. It's bad. Nice basement, though. Looks dry. Looks very clean. Looks very dry, very clean. So you could say, he should have said, in dry basement. Yeah, that would have encouraged me. That would have gone over the edge. So would you buy this? So, Ron, you're going to pick this up today for yourself? Oh, no. Got a new project, right? I'm not into Viking anyway. I don't hate it, but it's just there. It's just there. Not for 4K. No. No, not for this, yeah, not for this condition and that price. If it had a new play field in it or an NOS play field with a perfect backlash, showing working. And this is the guy's personal machine. He only has three items he's ever sold on eBay. Yeah. Which, in this case, and he has 100% positive feedback, so I have no doubt this is legit. Yeah. This is in this guy's basement. He did send me an offer for $3,000 to buy it. Wait, he sent you an offer? Yeah, because when you save it, it then said, oh, the seller is selling it to you for $3,000. So we know part of his low offer will be free if you want to offer maybe $2,500. You might get this thing. Does anyone make Viking playfields? Yes, they do. Okay, so if you want a really expensive starter game for your playfield, this is it.
    73:26
    Yeah, no. Next. Next, okay. Ticket number 165570. 7-6-2-0-5-6. Okay. This is looking like a steal. We have Paragon.
    73:51
    Fun to play. There's a video. Watch video. So this guy's put a video in there, too. I kind of like that. Let's see. Hello, vintage pinball machine collectors everywhere. Let's see. No reserve. The schematis. The schematis and key for the head are there, but the lock for the coin door and coin tray are missing. Wait a minute. The coin door and coin tray? Does it just mean the key for the coin door? Yes. Okay. Machine needs a few pinball leg bolt brackets. One only has one bolt on the leg for the rear because the other bolt broke off. The front legs have nuts. Yeah, that's the cheap part. Yeah. Selling as is, although I don't see any major repairs that machine will need. Fire will have to pay for shipping, blah, blah, blah, blah. No stairs. Straight out the front door. I see a couple of issues with this machine. Okay. The display four is kind of outgassing. And the display two is not even on. Oh, yeah, it is. This one picture I'm looking at is on. Oh, that picture. Okay. Let's see. the play field.
    75:05
    Got to wear around that one inch there. But that was... Let's get down. Go further down. No, keep going down. Go down. Oh, there we go. There we go. Still, I don't know what the current market is. Let's see. We have Williams flippers on it for some reason. Yeah, I know. Just the bottom two. Yep. And the bottom drop target on the left-hand side is wrong. Is wrong. But you can get the right one. What else do you see that's wrong? No, that was the display. It's just the weekend, the burnt on the floor.
    75:39
    This is in Forest Lake, Minnesota. Breaking Bad is the seller's name. I like that. 100% positive feedback. $1,375.
    75:50
    Yeah. So. I'd say not bad. I mean, the display problem, that's an easy fix. Yeah, it's an exigent, so you can get those anywhere. The leg plates. They're easy.
    76:04
    It seems to be all easy fixes. Of course, they have no pictures of the boards or anything, so we don't know.
    76:12
    She does it on, but is it how the boards look? It said watch video. Where's the video? It's on YouTube link. Oh, there it is. Okay. July 9, 2020. No, I don't want it. He's got a cat.
    76:28
    The owner's right in the video. This is what I look like. Hi, boys and girls. No. Yeah, it's Herbert. Herbert's here. Hi, children. This is a great pinball machine for the kiddies. I'm watching the video, too. It's flipping. Yeah. I think I would. See? There you go. See, videos are good. I like the idea. I actually did that for a few of my games. I have a YouTube link. It's like, here it is working, in case you have any questions. Okay, next one. So, it's a bye. We have a bye. Okay, ticket number 334-499-626-302.
    77:17
    What's wrong, Ron? My bank account's never been that high. Uh-huh. Well, okay, it says Medieval Madness, pinball, Royal Edition, Williams 1997, less than 400 plays. So it can't be a Royal Edition and be 1997. It's one or the other.
    77:39
    So which is it? Is it an original or is it the Chicago Gaming? It gets better. It really does get better. It's an original, I'm assuming. He made it into his own special Royal with the topper. Oh, because he's got the topper, yeah. But look at the flipper buttons. Yeah, they're like gold-plated, but the plating's completely worn away. And there's a black decal covering up the handwear on the cabinet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, literally. So there's no way 400 plates. It looks like a piece of black tape. Yeah, they actually sold these at some places. It's got a color DMD. Yeah, it's an original. It's original. LED badly. Well, to you, that's like every game. But, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's bad. This is fucking... It is this clown. This is clown. Look at the trans light. It doesn't even look natural. No, it's so bright and washed out. Holy shit.
    78:32
    Wow. And you can get this beautiful game for only $24,000. Fuck you. Holy shit. There's visible wear on the flipper buttons, Bruce. And the flipper area. No, just the flipper buttons. But otherwise, it's mint. It's mint. Maybe he took the flipper buttons from a different machine and put it on this one. And it's only had 400 plays. Yeah, that's an idea. Good answer. Yeah, good answer. Or the topper maybe has only 400 plays on it. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is in Dayton, Ohio. It's going to stay in Dayton, Ohio. Yeah, it's going to stay in Dayton, Ohio. Holy shit. Fucking high. God damn. Okay. Next. Viking play fields are available from CPR. They're $859. Mm-hmm. So there you go. we can get you a nice Viking probably for $3,500, Ron. And they probably only have a few issues with text being wrong and other stuff. Exactly. What do you think about that? There's always the argument that it's still better than a completely blown-out play field, even if the play field has little mistakes and stuff. What's your view on that? If you're going to do it, do it right. Exactly. That's kind of my – I don't want to stick around. I think it has taken a turn. It has taken a turn, I think, since they went from the silk screening to the whole direct play thing. It's terrible now. The play fields are terrible. Because they used to silk screen them just like the originals. Now they've got the direct print thing, and it just doesn't look as good. Oh, you can see the scan lines. You can see the print lines. You can see the head, you know, the droplets and everything like that. It's terrible. And if somebody says, no, you don't see that bullshit. Because guess what? I used to be in the printing business, and I know what droplet sizes are. Yeah. And overlay and that kind of stuff. And guess what? Go scratch your balls. It's still there. Get off my lawn. Get off my lawn, you damn kids. Bruce used to install big-ass industrial printers. Yeah. So fuck you. Yep, so that's a no for all three of us on that one. Oh, no, no. He should be booted off eBay for this monstrosity. That's a fuck no from all three of us. Okay, good. Next ticket number 255-620-390-921. The cheapest game we have today. Wow, the shipping is three times more than the price of the game. Back glass is nice looking. Let me look at the pictures. This is a Gottlieb 2001. Oh, God. There's some rats been living on this play field, I think.
    81:02
    Oh. Yeah, it looks like they took a skid all over the place. Yeah, some skid marks all over the place. Yeah, but it could clean up well. That one side's pretty bad. The wood. They were pissing and pissing and pissing and pissing.
    81:20
    It's a shame because it's $100 2001, which is a good game. Great drop target game It so maybe you can fix it up Maybe you have a play field to take it home It doesn work of course Yeah It but the shipping is so you want to fix this thing So, again, Warren, Ohio.
    81:40
    You know, pick up that little, what you see. I love his title in there. What you see is what you get. You know, if you were just getting into it and you wanted a project one, just to, you know, you want to go all out and go crazy, sure. $100. I got Ron excited. Ron would have actually drove to Ohio for this game, I think. No. No, if it was nice. No. Really?
    82:04
    I'm not a crazy driver like you. But, yeah, that's for a fixer-upper. It's a shame. It's a shame, but it is a good deal for $100.
    82:14
    Just definitely pick up Do Not Shift because that's stupid. Oh, yeah, totally. If you're in the area, grab it. Grab it. $100. Guess what the back glass is worth. The back glass is worth that. Yeah. It did have a little wear at the very top. Very top, but it was not bad. Yep.
    82:28
    So we have three yeses on that one, you say? Yep. Yeah, sure. Yep. Okay, next one. 155046856695. Oh. The least desired of the doodles.
    82:50
    William's Dipsy Doodle. project game, non-working. $600. One picture. Oh, wait a minute. That's it? That's it. No. You need more pictures. Does he say, like, in the description, like, I can send more pictures or anything like that? Not like that at all. Game is sold as is without warranty. Local pickup or buyer can arrange for shipping at their own cost. Located in North New Jersey. Yeah, North New Jersey. If you're looking for inexpensive pinball restoration projects, So, three hours for me. Dipsy Doodle.
    83:23
    Playfield wear is bad above the Dipsy Doodle. The Doodle Bug. I actually don't know if I've ever seen one that bad. I don't know if I've seen wear like that there. And the cabin is pretty beat up in the first front shot. Yeah, it is beat to shit. Yeah. But the back glass actually looks pretty nice.
    83:39
    So, would you get it just for the back glass? No. $600? I would offer them like $350. Yeah. This one's iffy. Yeah, low ball. Might get it. Yeah, you're going to put in a decent amount of work on this. Yep. I totally agree. But I saw it, and I was like, ooh. It's the least desirable doodle, though, because it only has the 10, 100 doodles. Yes, exactly.
    84:03
    Ticket number 284-878-388-593. This is for you, Mr. Robert. You mean Mr. Justin? No. This is for Mr. Robert.
    84:21
    You mean Robert Byers? Robert Byers. If you just bring up totally different people. No, I was doing it as a sly thing until we got to the actual description, and then we were going to go deeper into it. What do we have here, Ron? It's a WWF red logo Intercontinental belt. Come on, you've got to say it in the Macho Man. Yeah, exactly. This is the Macho Man. Yeah, when Macho Man was the Intercontinental champion, this was the belt he had. Well, there's a replica of it. Replica, but it's made by the same company who made the belts. Hey, it's real leather. $1,000.
    84:51
    $1,000 or best offer? Yeah. You know, it's the cream of the crop. Yeah. I think Robert needs to buy this because then he can actually really show off how good of an intercom. You know, I was never into the whole carrying the belts around thing, but, man, this thing was pretty fucking good.
    85:11
    This looks like something he'd actually be wearing. It would be awesome. You could see the leather. Yeah. Man, it looks good.
    85:21
    You could be the macho man. His intercontinental belt. I sent this to Robert this week, and he's like, oh, you're buying this for me? Thanks for the donation. I'm like, you wouldn't even get tap water from us.
    85:35
    For that price, it better come with some Slim Jims. Yeah, I agree. Stamp into it. Let's see. Yeah. It's cool. If you've got 1,000 bucks lying around, or maybe even 800. Eh. Oh, it's in Rome, New York. I know. It's like a few hours from me. Yep.
    85:54
    Would you buy it if you had the money? No. I would. If I had the money? Yeah. If I was totally into, like, Macho Man or something. If I was puffy rich, yes. If I had the fucking rich. Rich. I love it.
    86:09
    Okay. Next one. Told you we got a lot of them today. Yeah. One nine five. One eight six. 3-2-1 1-2-5 This is a game I've never seen before. Oh, that's not possible.
    86:27
    Let's see. It's a midway rodeo pinball machine. It's from the Nostalgia guy in Noblesville, Indiana.
    86:40
    Looks like, what's it, a head-to-head pinball machine? That's two-player. No, it's two-player. Midway. Midway? That's what I'm saying. Thank you. Wow. It's got a pin bar. You can press to shoot the ball or turn to aim the ball. Yeah, I love that. With flippers.
    87:00
    A little wear in the middle, but I've never seen this. No, they were known, I think, midway back in those days were probably more for their arcade. Yeah. Gun games and stuff like that. Might be on my way to Indiana today. All right. It's definitely different, and for the price. I thought it was a pretty good deal. Yeah, it's not bad. Only $318.75. Yeah. And he has a nice article on it, too. He really talks it up. Oh, yeah. It's old and rare.
    87:29
    Midway Rodeo, made 1964. Midway only produced four different pinball machines, including Rodeo. There are a few issues with the game. Uh-oh. There's no rear door on the back box. Okay.
    87:42
    There's no clear glass over the playfield, so it needs playfield glass. Oh, the playfield is slightly longer than a normal playfield, so you have to have custom glass made. Okay. There's a chip on the side of the yellow bumper. Okay.
    87:58
    Most of the plastics are wavy, yeah, because it's old and they're all, like, half-melted. E from the 44s killed them. The outside of the cabinet's been repainted. It's supposed to have two balls to provide, two bells to provide the sound. One of the bells is still there. The rest is missing. The solenoid to actually ring the bell that is there is missing.
    88:19
    The knob that moves the shooter turret needs some adjustment. The shooter turret can be moved by hand when it is. The knob will rotate. It's a fixer-upper. Yeah, if you're into older games and you fix a lot of them, this probably would not be that big of a deal for you.
    88:32
    Interesting piece of history. Yeah, I never saw one. It'd be a great fit for a local museum. Museum, that's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, it'd be a great fit. So sure. If I was a museum curator, I would be getting this. Mm-hmm. See? I thought it was pretty interesting, though.
    88:50
    Good job, Bruce. The history of pinball. You should be on the Silver Ball Chronicles. I've never been invited.
    88:58
    Okay. Never. Okay. A couple more. Which one do I want to give you? Let's go here first. It's not going to be like a condom machine or anything, is it? No, no, it's all pinball machines. All right. Ticket number 115-368-334-622.
    89:25
    Price is ridiculous, but I do like this game. I love this game. Yeah. It's the Joust Head-to-Head. If you've been enough pinball shows, you've seen this thing. And you've seen why it's always an issue, because half the time it's broke. We've got one on location local at a lot of places, Game Galaxy in Samara. It's cool. Yeah, it's a cool little game. And that's completely different rules between whether you're playing single or head-to-head. Yes.
    89:53
    And this one is $18,000. But it comes with free shipping. The game is in excellent condition. The cabin is nice and solid. No water damage. It's fully working. It does look very clean. Yeah, and they replaced all the lights with LEDs, so Bruce will be happy. Yay.
    90:13
    Every single bulb, switch, coil, target, display segment, sound effect is working great. I've got to remember the display segment one. I've never seen that comment before. Every display segment is in perfect working order. I like that they gave numeric ratings for each part of this machine. Marquise, 8 out of 10. Playfield, 8 out of 10. Coindor, 9 out of 10. But for $18,000.
    90:43
    In McLean, Illinois. Yeah. I like Joust. I don't know if I like it that much. Let me look at some of these pictures. It does look nice. It does. It's very nice. It's a pretty good version, but eh. I pass. I have to pass just because of the cost. Yeah, I agree.
    91:05
    Two more. All right. Ticket number 115-331-376-777. Again, the title has the rare in it. Super rare. Not just twice, super rare. It's 1981 Williams Solar Fire. Super rare professional text space theme. Super rare. What? Professional text? What does that mean? Okay. Shipping is like $600. Any other ones I've seen are like $300, $400.
    91:48
    Where is he? Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Only $4,444.44. Yes. And I am not reading. It is unreadable. It's all in caps with no spacing. I have been in this hobby for over 40 years, and this is the first solophor I've ever seen. I've heard about this pin, never seen one before in person. Only just under $800 per produce and not very, very expensive. That's literally how you would read it.
    92:20
    It's in our showroom at the Jupiter, Florida Pinball Dudes. He's even stating Supreme Court decisions at the bottom. What?
    92:32
    Florida residents add 7% sales tax due to the recent Supreme Court decision, Quill Court versus North Dakota. Some states are currently charging buyers on the internet sales tax. Oh, God.
    92:43
    Well, let's look at it. Ooh, the cabinet's all beat up. Playfield wear. Apron shot. Yeah, cabinet is, yeah, cut up.
    92:57
    Coinder looks okay. Hey! That's the best looking thing so far. Yeah. No. I got one nice one downstairs. Definitely no. I'll take the Godzilla Pro that's beside it, though. This is obviously a dealer. Yeah, it is a dealer. I'll take the free Godzilla Premium over any of that. Yeah, me too. I think I'd take the... Hey, this guy does have a Spectrum. We have a Spectrum. Yes, you do. So that's a flat out... No. No, no, no. Okay, last one. Are you ready for it? I'm ready. Ready, ready, ready. Hurry, hurry, hurry.
    93:40
    194-969-111-995. Oh, it's stunning. I don't know if I've ever heard that on the pinball description. It's a stunning, original Lord of the Rings pinball machine, as opposed to what? Was there a remake I missed? Must have been. Yeah. What's not an original Lord of the Rings pinball machine? Does he mean the LE?
    94:07
    Just isn't it the LE? Even though it's priced more than even the LE would be priced? Yes, only $16,000.
    94:18
    It's Spokane, Washington. It's a stunning, original Lord of the Rings. and I can't read this one either because the spacing is all fucked up but it says it's the nicest one he has seen what does it say close to 18 years old it is almost now actually probably when that was made 2004 well it came out in 2003 but the run lasted forever yes it did there was four versions which one is yours the first one second actually it's the second because the first one was light And then they went back to, what's it called? They went back to Simpsons, and then they went back again. Now, if you sold it, you would say the preferred version. That's what you would say. Yes, because I would say because of the artwork on the play field. So this is definitely a no. I mean, it looks fine. Yeah, but not for. But no. I mean, what was your Lord of the Rings? How much did you pay for your Lord of the Rings first? $3,200. New and bought.
    95:20
    Yeah. Okay. One more. I just found it, and it's going to cater to our guest. Okay. 284-895-961-019.
    95:40
    Oh, I already know about this. This is a big no for me. It's an Alice Cooper Nightmare Castle pinball topper.
    95:47
    But you said you have every mod. You need the topper. I don't have every... This isn't official, and I don't have every mod. I don't... Yeah, this is way too expensive for... It's cool. The guy that made it, it's very talented. It's super cool. He's got videos of it on YouTube, but... I can't justify spending that much on a topper. It does look pretty cool. How does it fit on a fucking regular game in a regular house? You have to have like 10 foot ceilings. Oh, you gotta have... Yeah, I don't think our ceilings here would do it either. It's $1,800. My question is, does the clock move? I don't.
    96:25
    I'm not sure. I know the little lighting effects in the back, like the lightning thing. See, for that much, I would want the clock to actually move. UD Copper has four zones.
    96:38
    Doesn't say anything about the clock. Yeah, I don't think it moves. At 22 and a quarter inches tall with the steeple.
    96:46
    Well, it says you can detach the steeples. Yeah. If you don't have room. Which would make it $15.75. Who wants to take off part of it whenever you're spending $18.00? $18.00.
    96:58
    All right, hold on. Here's the video, so let me see. I'm looking for the hole where I put my penis in, because this guy for $18.00 better suck me off. Wow.
    97:08
    Where is that hole, man? All right, the whitening looks cool. Yeah, the clock doesn't move. Oh, when I saw this, I was definitely all in until I saw the price, and then I was all out. If people like to donate to the fund for Justin, you know, come on. Oh, yeah. I would be very gracious of that.
    97:30
    That is definitely a no for me. Yeah, no. Hell no. I am looking for the original topper, which is unobtainium, but I don't think I would even pay nowhere near this much for the original. It is nutty. Yeah, it is. It is nutty. And that is all for eBay.
    97:53
    Okay. Finishing up here, episode 190. I got plugs. Justin, you want to plug anything? I don't really have anything to plug. Just come down to No Quarter here in Nashville if you want to play some good pinball or Game Galaxy. That's pretty much it. All right. Luckily, I just got a response from Mr. Jim at the Sanctum. The list has moved down two spots for me. I am now 20th. 20th in the wait list. Moving on up. To the east side. To the snake dome. That D-Lux and Phil Birnbaum is the first in line waiting. 101. Feel the burn. I just love that one of the regulars was literally the last person picked. Yeah. Like, that had to suck. Like, are you kidding? So I just got the text. That was nice of Jim to give me that update live on location. On location.
    98:52
    So if you ever want to come back on, Mr. Justin, and be our correspondent for the Southeast, you are more than welcome. Thank you. It's been great. We have Northwest correspondents, South. We'll have the whole damn country.
    99:04
    And we need an Australian correspondent. Is it Ryan Sears? Yeah, we don't hear from him except for just making fun of us how we say something. And the doctor has his own show now. Congratulations. Dr. John Cosman, yes. He's got the Aussie Pinball Podcast. I think that's what it's called. I think we should be on there since we made him world famous also. We made him world famous. How? Because you just said it. I mean, we did get Justin that game. Exactly. We did win him a game. So if you want to win a game on pinball, on the what the fuck is that fucking thing? God damn it. If you want to win a game, Project Pinball. Project Pinball, there you go. Which the more important thing is they put games in children's hospitals. Yes, they do. Or if you want to be hired by a pinball company, you need to be on our show. Or listen to us at least. No, you need to mention it. And then boom, it just happens. That's what I'm hoping for next, baby. Let's go. Stern has made a new hire. Home pin, give me a call. Home pin. Jesus Christ. They need all the help they can get. Oh, God. Is that game even out yet, Spinal Tap? No, not yet. Any news on that at all? I think they released a couple more pictures on Nap Arcade, but that was about it. I just love that Mike, the owner, just doesn't care. No. No, we're not going to advertise. We'll let our distributors do that. Yep. Jesus Christ. Wow. I know. Damn. Fucking awesome. Yes, it's like the ultimate I don't give a fuck owner right there. Hey, I heard you made the news, Ron. What? I mean the news? You mean the news. Yeah. I hear, like, Dave Dennis was on a news article. Did you read that news article? David Dennis was on, yeah, it was a news item about what? It was a Canadian thing. Yes. And they had a picture of him. Yeah. It was a Canadian article about pinball. Yeah. And I probably should have more information, but I fail. He developed into a podcast called the Silver Ball Pinball Chronicles. He developed in. The Silver Ball Pinball Chronicles? You mean the Silver Ball Chronicles, yes. Chronicles, a pinball history podcast. Yes, which can be heard on the Pinball Network. See, so I haven't plugged it in, so we need to now. Okay.
    101:21
    I think we're done with plugs. We are done with plugs. Oh, my. Justin, would you like to plug anything else? You already said that. We already did that. No, no, I'm saying plug, plug, like for himself. He wants, what do you want and need in the world? I mean, I've got a Godzilla Premium coming thanks to Slam Tilt and Project Pinball, so I don't think I need too much. Okay. Ron, we did have the game ready for you, but there was a sweepstakes winner, so we had to move you one spot out. Oh, that would be great. Oh, my God. I mean, we don't want to, but it is for a children's charity, and it would look really bad if you put up a stink about it. It's for the freaking children.
    101:59
    The sacrifices I make. so um let's see uh hi zach hi oh hi steve i'm a bonus in beautiful australia oh yeah he's in australia right now winning stuff yes yes he is everyone on our cluster hi folks everybody come see us at rochester pinball collective we got a tournament in two weeks and me and zach are finally really talking about the 24-hour thing as opposed to like not really talking about it before. No, we were talking about it and the three guys went, oh, I really don't want to do this. And now we're really like, okay, come on, let's do this. And I got now a third one on board. So it's going to be the other two guys. Well, don't you have a quorum, right? Is that enough? Three out of five? No, it's going to be four to five. Oh, damn it. I know. Hi to my fiance, Amanda, and the Nashville Pinball League. There you go. There you go. See? See? There you go. All right. Ron will be getting a game in a couple weeks. I will. It's not going to be Godzilla. Not going to be Godzilla.
    103:01
    Okay. What am I getting? You'll be getting a hot tip EM. I will? You will be. I'm storing one for a couple months. Oh, is that why you are coming to my house? Well, I'm coming to your house for staying there for the Saratoga. Yes, the upcoming Saratoga show. See?
    103:22
    Saratoga, thoroughly thoroughbred. If you're from this area, you would know what that's from. On the Corn Hill. Yeah, the commercial. It's going to be, what is it, August 12th and 13th. Yes, I'll be there on the 13th with my hot tip, and then I'll be leaving it at Ron's and taking it back after Stomp. So we're going to have another game at Stomp. Wow. And Bruce has not even told me that until just now. That's how good I am. Well, it's actually now almost 100% working, so I feel it's good, ready to go now. So it will be the living room game. Yes. Nice. Yes. So it won't be on TV. It won't be on video. But, oh, man, that's cruel. I'm going to get to play it, and then you're going to take it away. Yeah, but you'll fall in love with it even more, right? Yeah. And then I'll have to get – whatever. Okay. See? Who loves you? Yeah. Who loves you, baby? All right. Thank you, Justin, for coming on. Yes, thank you, Justin. Thank you, guys. So this has been Episode 190. You can check us out on our website, which you probably just go there to get links and stuff. But it's www.slamtelpodcast.com. In the upper right-hand corner is all our links. Feel sorry for Ron. Why? You've been doing this for six years with me. Yeah, I feel sorry for me.
    104:40
    I have been streaming a little bit more because of my awesome rush. Yes. I had a certain programmer who said, come on, Ron, stream it. So I was like, okay. And then I got the both Cygnus book one and book two in the stream. That was nice. And right when I started the stream, it's like I decided, I'll record this one. Who knows what will happen? Well, that was a wise decision. Very wise. Let's see. I'm also, I will be possibly streaming today. I'm beta testing some software for Black Knight. The original Black Knight. Oh, nice. Thank you, Scott. We need to get Scott on again soon. He can tell us how bad I test and stuff, I'm sure. You've got to put an email out, don't forget. I asked you this week to do it, and I didn't see a response to it. An email out for what? Mr. Gary Stern needs to. Oh, Jesus. Gary's not coming on. Just let it go. We need to plug him still. We need to plug him. I don't think he needs to be plugged. I think he does. Gary, please. Please, Gary. You need to email him again just to push the buttons. He's got to be back from Italy. He was back from Italy before. He's not coming on. Come on, Gary. Well, maybe we can get Josh Sharp on and then through him get to Zach Sharp and then through him get back to Gary and then maybe get him on. There you go. I think that's the plan. I mean, it's tough to get the owner of a company on a podcast where you bash games that his company makes. Well, make better games.
    106:12
    Okay. Am I right about this or what? All right. So this has been episode 190. Thanks, everybody. I think I plugged everything. I think I said everything, except for our email address. If you want to send an email to us, we can be reached at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. That's slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. If you are Gary Stern and you email us, we will answer you immediately. Immediately. And follow us on Facebook. Oh, yeah, follow us on Facebook. Just search for Slam Tilt Podcast. Yes. So thanks everyone. Thanks Justin. Thanks to the entire pinball world for existing. Until next time, say goodbye Bruce. Goodbye David Bank.
    107:14
    Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my. The game we won for Justin. Yes, exactly. We take full responsibility for the victory. Of course we do. The victory we always take. Actually, Bruce, you're the only person on this call that hasn't won a game from Project Pinball. How does it feel? But if you don't put money in, you don't get money out. So you don't like donating to charity. I got you. You don't want to help the children. You don't want to help the kids. Screw the kids. I donate to dogs instead. So people are better than humans. I mean, well, that's a better. Dogs are better than humans.
    108:31
    Wow, that's like a, that's a Bruce-ism there. See, you wonder where all the Bruce-isms come from. I actually get them from Ron. No, no.