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Story time with Don #2!

Don's Pinball Podcast (patreon feed)·podcast_episode·34m 36s·analyzed·Apr 20, 2024
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TL;DR

Don's story of owning GNR LE, market decline, and building a custom pinball cabinet.

Summary

Don shares a personal story about purchasing and eventually selling his second pinball machine, a Jersey Jack Pinball Guns N' Roses Limited Edition for $10,000, which he deeply enjoyed over 1.5 years before deciding to move on. He also reveals he has been secretly building a custom pinball cabinet from scratch over the past week, inspired by meeting custom builders at Texas Pinball Festival, and plans to share his progress with Patreon supporters without making a public announcement until he's confident in the project.

Key Claims

  • Guns N' Roses Limited Edition was purchased for $10,000 and is now worth around $7,000 on the secondary market

    high confidence · Don discussing his GNR LE sale and current market pricing

  • The GNR LE premium edition features can lights around the stage on the upper playfield and a bass guitar wire form ramp that Don found particularly creative

    high confidence · Don describing specific GNR LE features and design elements

  • Guns N' Roses contains 30-something songs and Slash was involved in the production

    high confidence · Don discussing GNR LE content and production details

  • Jersey Jack Pinball's next release after GNR LE was Toy Story, and Ken Cromwell discussed collector's edition distribution strategy

    high confidence · Don recounting JJP's post-GNR release strategy and Ken Cromwell's involvement

  • Toy Story (presumably JJP version) was priced at $30,000 a year ago and is now listed around $21,000

    high confidence · Don discussing secondary market price decline for JJP Toy Story

  • Don met Aaron from Fast Pinball at Texas Pinball Festival and saw Saw and Friday the 13th custom machines there

    high confidence · Don explaining his inspiration for custom pinball building

  • Don built a custom Spike II replica cabinet in one week using plywood, power tools, and salvaged/purchased components

    high confidence · Don detailing his cabinet construction timeline and methods

  • A final code update is planned for Guns N' Roses soon

    medium confidence · Don speculating about GNR LE receiving additional code work

Notable Quotes

  • “But watching those can lights around the stage that's in the limited edition version, the upper playfield, and I'm telling you, the bass guitar wire form. That's what did it, man. I had to have that.”

    Don @ early-middle — Explains Don's personal motivation for purchasing GNR LE and his appreciation for creative design choices

  • “This game just kept doing this to me for the first year that I owned it. You know, so if you play through a song and you play through a mode or something and then you go back into a song, there's several different like album specific modes you get.”

    Don @ middle — Illustrates the depth and longevity of GNR LE's gameplay appeal

  • “It's still the best light show in pinball, man. And, you know, there's 30-something songs in here. Slash himself was involved in the production of it.”

    Don @ middle — Highlights GNR LE's production quality and the significance of celebrity involvement in the game

  • “If you would offer $9,500, I would have been like, I'm going to keep it. I really want to keep it. I like this game.”

    Don @ middle — Shows Don's genuine attachment to the game despite selling it

  • “I went to Texas Pinball Festival and I saw Saw and I saw Friday the 13th and I met Aaron from Fast Pinball and I'm just like looking at these guys, these makers. I'm like I just I kind of want to be one of these guys. I want to crack the code.”

    Don @ late — Reveals the pivotal moment that inspired his custom cabinet project

  • “I started last Wednesday and I finished it up last Tuesday. I have a damn cabinet. I have the speakers... and I can Bluetooth music into this pinball machine that I created.”

    Don @ late — Details the one-week timeline for completing the cabinet build

  • “What I don't know is how to program, how to design a layout. I know how to install mechs, I can install flipper assemblies, I can install slings, but I need to know like what size coil I need, geometry of the layout and all that business.”

Entities

DonpersonJersey Jack PinballcompanyGuns N' Roses (Limited Edition)gameKen CromwellpersonAaronpersonEdpersonSlashpersonTexas Pinball Festival

Signals

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    market_signal: Guns N' Roses Limited Edition secondary market pricing has declined significantly; Don purchased for $10k but current asking price is ~$7k. Toy Story (JJP) similarly declined from $30k to ~$21k in approximately one year.

    high · Don explicitly states current GNR LE market is around $7k and notes Toy Story price drop from $30k to $21k year-over-year

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack Pinball uses limited collector's edition production with distributor gatekeeping for Toy Story release; Ken Cromwell communicated availability strategy to interested buyers through recorded messaging.

    medium · Don recounts Ken Cromwell's message about getting on distributor lists for limited collector's editions with very few units available

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    code_update: Final code update planned soon for Guns N' Roses, potentially to revive secondary market activity and player engagement.

    medium · Don states 'I will say this about Guns N' Roses. It sounds like they're going to do a final code update here soon.'

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    design_innovation: Guns N' Roses Premium Edition features innovative mechanical design elements including can lights around stage on upper playfield and bass guitar wire form ramp with multiple ball paths.

    high · Don praises the creative ramp design and describes watching can lights and bass guitar wire form as compelling design choices that motivated purchase

  • ?

    content_signal: Don's normal podcast production cadence (every 2-3 days) was disrupted for 7 days due to intensive custom pinball cabinet building project.

Transcript

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All right, so we're back at the Prestige Partner level with the double entry. We just had the drawing as well for the mid-month translite and Conrad took it again. Now, Conrad is a PrestigePartner member. He gets himself two entries and actually each one of those entries has won him a translite so far. What I do is I take everybody that's current on the Patreon. They each are assigned a number and then that goes into the drawing. And if you were at PrestigePartner or higher at the producer level, I then go ahead and add more numbers and give you that second entry. All these are just a few of the things that I like to spoil my Patreon members. So, I don't have any rules on how many times you can win. It's a fresh drawing every time, man. That's fate. That's how it goes. But I'm going to keep doing the giveaways and I've got plans for even more stuff to come. So, welcome. Welcome, everybody. I know I've been a little distant. At the end of this, I'll get into what I've been up to as well. So, this will function as kind of like a special podcast just for y'all as well as a story. flock Mumbaiiggers Tales It's g 같이 embora we love Haw lijk

Don @ late — Articulates the next phase of learning and challenges ahead for the custom build

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Fast Pinballcompany
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high · Don explains his absence: 'Normally I have a show up every two to three days, and I think it's been about seven now since I've put anything up.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Custom pinball builders (Aaron from Fast Pinball, Ed who built Ghost in the Shell) are influential figures inspiring other community members to pursue DIY machine building.

    high · Don's decision to build custom cabinet was directly inspired by meeting Aaron and knowing Ed, stating 'I kind of want to be one of these guys. I want to crack the code.'

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    community_signal: Don is selectively transparent with Patreon supporters about behind-the-scenes projects (custom cabinet build) while maintaining public mystery, using insider access as a value proposition for paid community members.

    high · Don tells Patreon: 'I'm being kind of cagey about this' regarding the custom build details shared with Patreon but not public channels; emphasizes 'I love to spoil you guys'

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    venue_signal: Texas Pinball Festival served as a pivotal networking and inspiration event, where Don encountered custom machines and builders that motivated his own project.

    high · Don credits Texas Pinball Festival as the trigger: 'I went to Texas Pinball Festival and I saw Saw and I saw Friday the 13th... I'm just like looking at these guys, these makers.'

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    restoration_signal: Don engaged in machine modification and component sourcing for GNR LE, including aftermarket light bars, artblades, and marquee lights purchased at Pinball Expo and other sources.

    high · Don describes finding aftermarket components: 'I found the guy that was selling the little tracing travel lights... I found a guy selling light bars... I found Artblades at Pinball Expo'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Don is approaching custom cabinet building in phases: woodworking/cabinet construction complete, next phases involve learning playfield design, mechanical installation, and programming/code work, with timeline uncertainty (3 years to never).

    high · Don articulates knowledge gaps: 'What I don't know is how to program, how to design a layout... Maybe that's going to take me three years to do. Maybe it'll be impossible.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Guns N' Roses secondary market appears saturated with available units at reduced prices; Don notes 'you could much swing a cat and pick up a Guns N' Roses' suggesting oversupply relative to demand.

    medium · Don observes abundant GNR LE availability on secondary market and associates with broader market downturn affecting all games

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    business_signal: Jersey Jack Pinball's post-GNR LE strategy involved pursuing major licensed IP (Toy Story) while managing collector's edition availability through distributor gatekeeping.

    medium · Don describes JJP's shift from GNR LE to Toy Story release and Ken Cromwell's communication about limited collector's edition availability through distributors

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