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Drew and Ian discuss golf mishaps, pinball news drought, and games that surprised them.
Modern Pinball (NYC venue) is closing its doors
high confidence · Ian states: 'Modern Pinball is closing their doors in New York City.' Drew confirms they've never been but acknowledge it as a staple venue.
Deep Root Pinball's hype cycle has peaked and faded with no new game announcements
medium confidence · Ian: 'The hype train left... their hype has come. It's gone. It came again, and now it's gone.' Both hosts speculate Deep Root needs to release a game to restore momentum.
Iron Maiden won the Stern Bracket Challenge
high confidence · Drew states: 'Well, now I think this is a stupid number five. Nope, it's not. Because it just won the Stern Bracket Challenge, Iron Maiden.'
American Pinball is slowly shipping Hot Wheels machines
high confidence · Drew: 'American Pinball is slowly getting out Hot Wheels TurboGrafx7 just streamed Hot Wheels they did over at Dave Brennan's house.'
Riot Pinball made six Valhalla machines
medium confidence · Ian: 'Riot Pinball, they streamed their Valhalla... I think the boys over at the Buffalo Pinball Boys... they're making six of them as far as I understand.'
Jersey Jack is expected to be the next manufacturer to release a new game after TMNT
medium confidence · Ian: 'I'm assuming they will be the next release' after discussing TMNT shipping and other manufacturers' current status.
Spooky Pinball is still getting Rick and Morty machines out
high confidence · Drew: 'Spooky's got nothing right because they're still getting Rick and Morty's out.'
Greater Lakes Pinball and Expose Pinball have largely disappeared from the industry conversation
medium confidence · Drew: 'We haven't heard Diddley Squat from, what was it, Greater Lakes?' Ian: 'Oh, yeah. Expose. That's right. I forgot all about them because they just kind of fell off the map.'
“The hype train left. I was about to say, their hype has come. It's gone. It came again, and now it's gone. It's done. It's gone.”
Ian @ ~32:30 — Summarizes Deep Root Pinball's extended hype cycle and audience fatigue from lack of announcements.
“pinball news is pretty much dead for whatever reason we're shipping turtles”
Drew @ ~19:45 — Expresses frustration with lack of industry news and new game announcements.
“Release a game, get it out the door, say you did it. The first game doesn't have to be amazing.”
Ian @ ~33:00 — Advice to Deep Root about manufacturing strategy and breaking analysis paralysis.
“There's not a lot to talk about when it comes to Deep Root, and I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing anymore.”
Ian @ ~32:45 — Indicates concern that extended silence from a hyped manufacturer is damaging rather than building anticipation.
“I popped right back up because I'm like, if I don't get up, my wife is going to castrate me.”
Drew @ ~7:30 — Humorous comment during recounting of golf cart accident after getting hit and briefly losing consciousness.
“His head dribbled... it did that about three times”
Ian @ ~6:45 — Describes Drew's head bouncing on soft ground during golf cart accident.
“We knocked the savant, the golf savant in his head loose... he was hitting the ball straight.”
Ian @ ~10:00 — Joke about Drew improving at golf after the concussion incident.
“I was shocked. I thought maybe I'd play Pirates more. I thought I'd play Houdini more. But we ended up playing the most... Iron Maiden.”
Drew @ ~42:00 — Explains how Iron Maiden was an unexpected favorite and influenced his decision to buy the game.
sentiment_shift: Hosts express clear frustration that Deep Root Pinball's extended silence has exhausted community patience; hype cycle has peaked and declined without product delivery.
high · Ian: 'The hype train left... their hype has come. It's gone. It came again, and now it's gone.' Drew: 'There's not a lot to talk about when it comes to Deep Root, and I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing anymore.'
venue_signal: Modern Pinball (NYC) is closing doors; hosts note it as a long-standing staple venue and express concern this may be first of several location closures.
high · Drew: 'Modern Pinball is closing their doors in New York City.' Ian: 'And they're not going to be the last, sadly. You know, this pandemic has been tough on a lot of people.'
industry_signal: Multiple small/mid-tier manufacturers (Greater Lakes, Expose, Wraith developers) have dropped from industry conversation with no updates or announcements.
high · Drew: 'We haven't heard Diddley Squat from, what was it, Greater Lakes?' Ian: 'They just kind of fell off the map.' Discussion of Expose and Wraith also fading.
product_launch: American Pinball slowly shipping Hot Wheels; Spooky continuing to ship Rick and Morty; pace described as gradual.
high · Drew: 'American Pinball is slowly getting out Hot Wheels... Spooky's got nothing right because they're still getting Rick and Morty's out.'
announcement: Iron Maiden won the Stern Showdown/Bracket Challenge, validating player interest and Keith Allen's design.
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high · Drew: 'Well, now I think this is a stupid number five. Nope, it's not. Because it just won the Stern Bracket Challenge, Iron Maiden.'
design_philosophy: Hosts critique Deep Root's rumored strategy of limited production and high pricing ($10k) without proven demand; suggest alternative approach of lower price point ($5-6k) with wider availability.
medium · Ian: 'I think they should do the opposite. I think they should do... Crank them all out for six grand... Just get it out. It's been a while since we talked about it.'
gameplay_signal: Raza's prominent ramp mechanic is identified as challenging and potentially limiting game depth; hosts note it's the main shot without sufficient alternative play strategies.
medium · Ian: 'For Raza, it seemed like that was kind of a major thing, that ramp... That's tough for me. That's a tough one.'
sentiment_shift: Both hosts independently ranked Iron Maiden as #5 game that surprised them positively; Keith Allen's first game exceeded expectations.
high · Drew and Ian both chose Iron Maiden as #5; Drew: 'I really wanted a Metallica... But man, yeah, Iron Maiden, super surprising.' Ian: 'It wasn't until... I was like, wow, this game is amazing.'
community_signal: Riot Pinball's Valhalla (homebrew) is described as looking professional-grade, not like a homebrew; positive reception to small manufacturer quality.
medium · Ian: 'It did not look like a homebrew. It looked like a legit pinball machine for sure... that game looked good. It looked fun.'
product_concern: Modern Pinball closure signals broader concern about arcade/pinball venue sustainability; hosts link to pandemic impact.
medium · Ian: 'And they're not going to be the last, sadly. You know, this pandemic has been tough on a lot of people.' Drew expresses concern about other venues.
content_signal: American Pinball (Hot Wheels) and Riot Pinball (Valhalla) actively streaming gameplay at venues; Dave Brennan hosting streams; hosts interested in visiting.
high · Drew: 'TurboGrafx7 just streamed Hot Wheels they did over at Dave Brennan's house... Dave has invited us over. We want to go check that out.'
industry_signal: Hosts repeatedly note absence of pinball industry news; resort to golf stories and top-5 lists to fill episode; indicate pattern of silence across multiple manufacturers.
high · Drew: 'pinball news is pretty much dead for whatever reason.' Ian: 'There's no news. We say news, fuck off.' Drew: 'we gave up on pinball because there's no pinball.'