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Son of a bitch, if I drink it free, I'm gonna drink my way. Welcome to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Almost forgot what our podcast name was. Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Episode number 61, kids. All right. So we're hot off the heels of the interview we just had with Dave Jeff Brenner. Technical services manager. Yes. I did it right this time. You are so good, dude. I'm so proud of you, man. So proud of you right now, man. Because I can read words. I just sounded like I was stoned or something. I don't know. It made me laugh. So tribe member number nine, Dave Jeff Brenner. Dave Jeff Brenner. thank you again for being on that was super cool he was on he was telling us all about his new position at american pinball he is the guy that you want to call if you need something from american pinball he's a member of the community he's always been a member of the community he's balls deep in every member of the community he knows how to use rocks on pinball machines better than anybody i know hands down i've seen it i've seen it he's helped me he's like pick up this rock i'm like how'd that go he's like pick up that rock i'm like okay he and he's like is that the right rock and i'm like no dave i got lazy and i picked up the wrong rock he's like go over there pick up the right rock let's do this thing right right that's how dave does it he always does it right no he does it right does it the right way he'll fix your machine without rocks guys we're joking and he told me i had a drew does with rocks but so dave doesn't i'm clear coding science soon i won't ruin it but i gotta use proper ventilation he told me yeah i was like fuck that shit i just do it my wife yells at me drew's like one for you one for me i'm pouring whiskey on my clear coat it tastes sweet i don't know i can't tell you what to do but i'm just saying i taste your ventilation i'm like it's not that bad chris chandler i found a new uh use for screwball i use it on my clear coat yes it's delicious i just i just pour it on the clear coat it works anyway so dave Jeff Brenner one of us so please please please if you know him shoot him a message tell him congratulations on the new position and i know he's going to work very very hard uh to make sure that all of the ap games are running if you guys have any issues he will help you yeah he's about as sweet as they come he's a good dude so uh give it up for dave dave's awesome all right so what are we gonna do you know we didn't have a lot of buttholes in that last episode not a lot of players i kept trying to insert it in the butthole or insert butthole into the episode how does that work both yes yes please you know we were on our best behavior you know we're talking about american pinball and we do respect them and you know dave was actually being very great with his time and he was telling us all about hot wheels and we were having a good time talking about it but now we want to talk about buttholes and yeah get back to drew and ian shit it's funny how that works now Now that we got a little buzz going on. So it's not really technically a fucking Friday, but it's kind of like a fucking pinball Friday. A little bit. Yeah, and you know what? We're calling this one episode 61 because we can do what we want. Yeah, we're going to talk pinball. Yeah. So it's an episode. Yeah. Boom, baby. That's how it works. That's how it is. We use the word pinball. It's an episode. It's an episode. Well, we're on like episode 100 then. We're going to hit that milestone. But no, can I say something? Let me just back up though. Back up. We just surpassed episode 60 though. Seriously. Fucking cool, right? can you guys believe that 60 episodes we appreciate every one of you it's actually been more hey count the fucking friday another 20 we're close to 100 seriously but you fucker from alaska you still have an email didn't email us please that one or two people from alaska who listen to us email us poor man's pinball at gmail we're not gonna drop it no we're not we we want to know who you are alaskan watch do your socks in alaska hey what do you got going up there in alaska What kind of games you got in Alaska? Yeah, tell us about your Alaskan games. Can you see Russia from your house? Let us know. Is that racist? Romancepinball at gmail.com. In today's world, that's probably racist. That was a Sarah Palin joke, right? I love it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Sarah Palin. I can see Russia from my house. That was a Saturday Night Live thing. Oh, that's hilarious. Anyway, so I don't think it's that racist. But here we go. Boom. What was I saying? I don't know. Another one you know. 60 episodes. We're excited. 60 episodes, yeah. Thanks, guys. I know it's that many because I edited them all. They suck. And most recently, we had our highest rated show ever. Yeah. So thank you for that, guys. Things are growing. Things are shaking. You guys just keep... We have officially three sponsors. We're working on potentially a fourth sponsor. I know. Can you believe that? I know. Four. Four people. Four official sponsors, one unofficial sponsor. Four people give us over $1,000 a month to be part of this episode. Oh, you're just throwing numbers on it? we'll never have another sponsor again if you think guys okay i lied they give us six cheese slices yeah it's barely and they're like can we be a sponsor we're like sure and they're like here's six cheese slices we take no money for our sponsorships it's all just stuff we give away to our listeners so speaking of giveaways oh we got another one wait no we didn't talk about in the last episode but we do have our current giveaway right now which is uh follow us on Twitter and from basically when we open the account, you're eligible to the end of June. June 30th, kids. Follow us on Twitter and we will be selecting one of you followers for a fresh brand new shiny pair of Pinshades. Pinshades. It's what the pros wear. You just made that up. That was good. I like that. I'm watching Ian. I was waiting for him to hold his headphones and do it like a real disc jockey he was almost there he was just like he's like pin shades you can't see what we're doing but we're touching our headphones this is why we need video equipment pin shades I'm pretending to pose in front of our fake camera we got a regular Howard Stern here so nobody gives a shit about anything we just said Except for pin shades. Except for pin shades. We're giving away pin shades. And follow us on Twitter. If you have a Twitter account, follow us. Yes. Yeah, I post all sorts of dumb shit on that thing, so that's great. Our Twitter handle is butthole1269. No, it's not. No, it's poor man's pinball podcast. Poor man's pinball podcast. Follow us on Twitter. Thank you very much. Okay, so Drew. Ian. Poor man's personal pinball news. Ooh, I got some good ones today. What do you got, buddy? My decals came in today from Croatia. all the way from Croatia never thought Croatia was going to be the heart of the decals and they are beautiful we couldn't find any locally Retro Refurbs does them good so there are other ones? fuck if I know Retro Refurbs man hey Retro Refurbs are you listening? I gotta check if Croatia listens so Retro Refurbs if you're from Croatia Croatia watch Croatia send us an email poor man's pinball at gmail.com i ordered these over a month ago covid obviously gets in the way these things got into new york on like may 29th you know i sent one email because i'm just like hey you know do you know they're like yeah it's been taking a while i'm like okay cool and today my postman came and like the skies opened up and the light shined down and he gave me the tube you know what i did i enrolled the tube and i flattened about and i'm waiting and And then Thursday, because I'm working the next couple of days, and maybe tomorrow if I get a little buzz on, I might do them. But I'm putting – because I couldn't put my game back together until I got these decals on. That was the big deal. Right. You know, like decals are cool, and it's like normally you can just be like, okay, but the game, you've got to put the shit on before you can put on your rails and your – Yeah, they are. Yeah, your coin door, because you've got to cut it out and stuff. So, yeah, so that firepower, and I got a brand-new piece of glass waiting for it. I'm excited. Can we back up a bit? Back up. What you drinking? Screwball. Screwball, straight? Little ice? Screwball with ice. Screwball on the rocks. Screwball on the rocks. I am drinking Jack Daniel's honey. More on that later. More on that later. All right, so what else going on? And then I got some more info about clear coating my meteor. Cool. But first, thank you, Jeff LaGrange. This is an official shout-out to Jeff LaGrange. Tribe member number, what the hell number is he? Edit, edit, edit. Nope, we're just going to go with it. Okay, now edit. Tribe member number 15, Jeff LaGrange. He did some beautiful stencils for his own firepower. He repainted his firepower. He did a great job. This guy does a really good job restoring. I sent him some pictures of the exhaust on the meteor from the spaceships. He sent me stencils. He made stencils, several stencils. He made them. Now I just got to airbrush them. I'm excited. Jeff, you gorgeous bastard. Thank you. All right. Jeff is the man. Jeff, you know what? Jeff's like us. I mean, he drinks a lot. Because every time he sends me, he sends me like an email. Speak for yourself, bitch. Hang on. Let me finish. Sorry. Sounds like I'm right. let me finish um fuck on that butthole jeff always sends these emails he's like oh you know he's like yeah i'm gonna try to do these stencils tomorrow if i'm not too drunk you know and it's always these great little lines that he puts in his emails jeff i love you man and we need to spend some more time together now that covid's over officially yeah we're done with that you heard it here first folks yeah the health officials named Ian and Drew said, fuck it. It's over. Dennis Creasel, don't send us your hate mail. We know COVID's not really over. We're just joking. Whatever. But yeah, Jeff, thank you so much for all your help. And he's like, oh, did you get the stencils yet? And I'm like, yeah, I got them. And then he's like, oh, did you do them yet? And I'm like, no, I haven't, because I had to wait for paint and all this shit, and I'm getting all this shit ordered. But yeah, he's just super excited about it. That's what's awesome. He sends them to me, and he just wants to know how it's going. Didn't charge me a damn thing. fucking jeff awesome stuff man that's why he's a tribe member yes he is that is why he's a tribe member go ahead what do you what do you got personal uh a gc october fest you did you kicked my ass yeah four million i think yeah so not like just so you guys know like and i'm gonna sound silly now saying this people are like oh that sucks one million is like a good score on october fest it really is you get to one million you ain't got the four million yeah i pretty much killed the gc it's like yeah it's like i had one bullet that was worth two million i saw that i saw the best ball up there i was like that's awesome yeah that was uh i think i double signed on the bumper cars and then i played the bumper car tent and i fucking crushed it so three people know what you're talking about right now and it's a good three people i'm sure so let's talk about poor man's pinball podcast fans page we have a fan's page so join that we have billy yj one of our tribe members and pete quint thanks guys just uh locking that shit down and uh they got almost 100 uh we're almost at 100 over there i think last time i checked it was 90 something so we switched over we 100 followers over there so to the poor man's pinball podcast fan page fan page the podcast page is going to be just us posting our relative news or whatever but the discussion the crazy zaniness is going to happen on over there so they'd have they had a fun little topic the other day of uh most um disappointing moments in pinball you know like do you know when you're playing yeah while you're playing you know like it goes up the ramp it almost makes it up and then it comes down and shoots down the middle that'd be an example that would be a great example My example was a bad nudge that was going to go clearly in the in lane. And then he jumped it to the out lane. And you go, fuck me, no. And then Zach Manning chimed in when you got spin on the ball. Yeah, it comes into the in lane and then just jumps over. How about you, bud? Oh, you know what? This has been happening on Jurassic Park frequently because I've been playing it a lot. And I've been working on my flipper skills. and sometimes you're like practicing and when you're kind of like juggling the ball between the flippers and it just like goes up a little bit a couple inches and then just goes right down the middle you know what i mean you're like okay i'm just gonna i'm gonna practice like uh what about tap pass and all these different post pass yeah you know like post pass i'm pretty good at but yeah a little tap pass and then like i said you get it to go up and it just kind of goes right up the middle like three inches and then right down the middle and you're like oh my god i was just fucking around and i you know i lost the ball so that's that's frustrating so please uh go on the fans page and post your most heartbreaking moments in pimp oh no i got a better one this one's even better you guys just had a lot of heartbreaks guys so i'm playing a game doesn't matter what game right and the wife says drew and i'm like fuck it doesn't matter if i'm having a good game not a good game i'm like gotta drain you're cradling and you're like reaching over We're like, what? What do you need? No, you're right. You're absolutely right. You cradle because you're like, yeah, honey. Yeah, exactly. What do you need? And you know what's funny? I need your help. What is it? Sometimes. What is it, honey? I swear to God. We have these two dogs. I love my dogs to death, right? They're our family. And then she's like, oh, look at the dogs. And I'm like, what the fuck? You made me lose a ball so I can look at the dogs? One of them's licking his dick and the other one's licking his butthole. Jesus Christ. Why do I need to look at that? Bitch, we've had these dogs for years now. I've seen them. like eight years old i love them to death they are my family that her just wanting you to be part of the family again i like if i wanted to watch something look his dick i just go to hang out with ian jesus christ i have dogs as well that what he referring to nope not true at all that completely false um jesus so yeah i get whatever move past it i feel like that reasoning is oddly specific to you buddy it is it is well because here's the thing because check out the asshole on this dog the way the way our house is set up you know like i said you know it's the living room and then my pinball room is like right behind the living room so it's like you know i have the headphones on and she'll be like drew oh what um you know it's white stuff man it is yeah we were not even pinball baby that's a white that's white shit it happens this is why they need to come up with the pause button on the pinball machine where you trap up and you can hit a pause button. Whoa. Mind blown. Whoa. I know. You heard it here first, folks. For guys like me, because you know what? If I get a high score, you know who cares? Only one man. His name's Tim Lee. Nobody else in the world cares except for Tim Lee. American Pinball, JJP, and Spooky, are you listening? I know Stern's not. Yeah. No, they're not. Put a pause button on my game, please. Anyway. Whatever. Pause, please. All right, so very cool, very cool, Drew. Yeah, so check that out over at the Poor Man's Pinball fans page. All right, so. And thanks, Billy YJ and Pete Quint. Pete Quint plays the trumpet, does a good job. Those guys are awesome. They're great people. Great people. Super cool guys. Yep. We didn't really talk about it. We had a tribe member and the fan page Zoom party. Oh, that was fun. We didn't even talk about that. It was their idea. These guys there. So they came up with this Zoom party. So we did this Facebook Live. Not even Facebook Live. It was through Facebook. Yeah, that Facebook Messenger. It was like your chat room, whatever. It's like Zoom, but it's through Facebook. Oh, my God. That was so much fun. There was 15 or 16 people. Yeah. And it got a little wild. Orbital Albert was there. Orby. Oh, my gosh. Orby was there. Well, his mind wasn't there, but he was there. He stole the show, man. Him and Josh Mudd, I just... And if at any time you wanted to laugh, all you'd have to do is look on that little video screen because they were doing something ridiculous. But Drew, you got pretty drunk that night. I got into the Soul Boxer again. I don't know why. I brought a fresh bottle from that, what was that, six, seven, ten episodes ago? Yes. Yeah, we had the Soul Boxer. It's that, it's pre-mixed, old-fashioned. Old-fashioned sweets. Yeah, it's real sweet and sugary, but it's got a ton of booze. And I drank, like, almost the whole bottle. You drank the whole bottle. I didn't have any of it. You drank the whole bottle. I was so – I don't get hungover, folks. I really don't. This was like expo hungover. Like, expo, I was hungover. You didn't look good. Did you puke? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't talk – Ian, Ian, I was saving this. We haven't talked. Because I knew we were going to talk about this. so I did get a lift that day for you guys who are worried about me because I've been driving here frequently our tribe members on the zoom call were worried that we drove but we don't drive we're very responsible so that night I called the lift and they're on their way and I'm like yeah I'm going I puked in your laundry sink or whatever that's fine when did you do that? oh god it was the whole thing did you clean it? Yeah, it's fine. Go check now. It's probably two weeks old now. Anyways, I go outside, and on Ian's front lawn, I'm waiting for this lift, and I'm just so out of it, whatever. I just laid down on the lawn. I literally just, I just, and the cool, because he has two dogs, but they always go in the backyard, and I knew that, because one tries to run away. So I'm like, oh, cool. There's not going to be dog poop here, I'm sure of it. So I just sprawled out there, and I was like, oh, this feels so good. I was just laying on your grass for like two minutes. That's so interesting. And then the lift comes, and I just get in, and I'm like half sleeping the whole way home. Yeah, that party went from like 7? It was a long way. Or 8 to? 2. I think we ended up at 2.30 over here Central Time. Yeah, it was. Some of those boys where it was like 3 o'clock, you know, 4. it was late there was a time where I just looked up and I saw everybody's face and they looked exhausted I was like guys let's shut this fucker down you guys are dying our boy Pete Quint fell asleep on his couch he's literally like he has his hat on he puts his hat down and he's like sleeping like an old man on the couch where's Pete I see his hat and yeah Albert was extracurricular activities and drinking and he was he was like making food he was like oh i'm making some potatoes or something i don't know he's so stoned all of a sudden you can just see him it was like first person shooter but only stoner cooking you know it was so funny he's like guys i'm so hungry and he getting tater tots yeah he brought his wife on for a while that was funny he's grating cheese on his tater tot oh my god he was so fucking fun and then the best part was that boy knows how to cook the best part was at like one o'clock this older lady just shows up in the zoom party oh man she was awesome yeah her name was therese i think yeah therese she was so sweet oh yeah i'm friends with her on facebook yeah so we're we're all just having fun and then all of a sudden this old lady's like older lady she's like she's like oh how's it going guys and we're like what the fuck is this and uh yeah well she was drinking oh all sorts of stuff we were laughing she was drinking right out of the bottle yeah Apparently, her and her husband are operators of pinball machines. So you probably know Therese out there in pinball land. Yeah, what city was that from? That's in Pete's. Yeah, so that's Ohio. Ohio, yeah. So yeah, Pete's like, oh, yeah, this is Therese. Well, Pete was passed out on the couch. He didn't introduce her. She was like, thanks for inviting me, Pete. Passed out on the couch. Who the fuck is this? Oh, my God, dude. There was too many. This is crazy. Too fucking funny. Too fucking funny. We had one person that wasn't a tribe member, Chris Chandler, so thanks for joining us. Yeah, that was awesome, Chris. Thank you. Yeah, the whole thing, it was just fun. And we're going to do more of them, so it was a neat experience. Another reason why you want to become a tribe member. Yep, so it wasn't even a tribe member only thing. No, we'll open it up and have some fun. All the better to join the fan page because we'll try to do more of those. All that to say all that, huh? What's that? We went through that whole story just to say that. To join the fan page? Yeah. Well, no, it was more of a... No, I know. It's hard to tell about how you guys missed out on such a great time. You know? Some of those things. You know what I was thinking? Next time we need Franchi there. Oh, yeah. Franchi would be funny. All right. So anyway, let's move. Let's keep on moving. So let's talk about the news. Should we go into news? News it up. Do-do-do-do-do. News. News. so we talked a bunch about american pinball's hot wheels so drew after digesting some of the streams and stuff um general overall opinions now that dave's not here now you can talk freely and my opinion is the same i know i know i say that because i just wanted to make sure that nobody thinks we're Win Schilling i think it's a really solid game this this package is so well put together um it's cohesive the the rules are sharp the gameplay is sharp the shots are sharp i mean everything about it screams great pinball and yeah all pinball's fun i know everyone says that's so cliche but um this game can compete with uh other family-friendly games you know if you want something more adult this probably isn't for you drink while you play yeah there you go it's adult um well i i would also say that even if you if you like racing games like i was gonna say if this getaway yes high speed if those are your your cup of tea you're gonna like this game it seems like it's like right up that alley if this is your only game it'll be a good only game and you know there's a lot of games that you can't say that right you know there's a lot of games that you say well you probably don't want to get this because you'll get bored because of this or because of that but if if you're yeah if you're buying your first pinball machine this would be a fine first pinball machine it would be and like i said especially if you have kids especially if you're yeah or if you're into racing or if you're into hot wheels so you have you have three or four sets of people that this game could be your only game it could be part of collection you know all these different things um very good offering from american pinball absolutely yeah i i just i just think they did a really good job with it yeah and uh i agree and uh everything looks really fun yeah it looks awesome so everything i said in last episode uh still pertains i mean still great it's i'm very excited to play it it's like um you know and and you can see some of the similarities like like getaway yeah you know it's getaway is just a fun super fast game it's well loved by everybody and like i said if you love cars and stuff it's even better and it's just one of those games yeah so yeah i feel like i feel a little it feels strange to me that i we've had two releases now and i'm high on both that doesn't usually happen no usually i'm pretty critical about certain games you've wow i didn't even think of that yeah you it's been bugging me i'm like i gotta think of some things that i like i hate this art it's dino adventure land i hated the art i still hate the art did somebody on a podcast uh like in the before it was revealed they were talking about how you're fighting dinosaurs and somebody said dinosaur adventure land and i almost went off the road i was laughing so hard I wish I could remember, but yeah, they alluded to something like that. They're like, oh, we're fighting sharks and dinosaurs, you know, whatever, with cars, and there's this, like, dino adventure land, and I'm like, oh my god, who the fuck is this? Someone's stealing Ian's stick out there. But no, I can't fault this game. Like I said, all I can say is that it might not be everyone's first choice, but it would be a solid choice for anybody if that if that makes sense yeah and i think we also meant had a good point last week about our last episode about american pinball is is writing wrong it's like they're getting better you know they're they're they're progressing um you know houdini was tight oktoberfest was kind of open um houdini was dark oktoberfest oktoberfest is I said fasty, fasty flow. This is more in lines with, yeah, you got that speed, that flow, that complete package. And we didn't mention this. I wanted to talk about this. But the theme, you know, this is their very first theme that isn't an open IP. And, you know, that could be a double-edged sword, right? It could be bad in the sense of you're kind of handcuffed to what the theme is. so you know hot wheels or whatever they're like hey we have this show we want to promote this show we'd like you know this show to be thing but also the positive there is all your a lot of your animations not all of them because they did a really good job on the animations they had to create but you get a lot of stuff you know before they were creating stuff out of thin air yeah you know they had to create everything out of houdini they had to create everything out of oktoberfest with hot wheels now you get to borrow assets which is which is fantastic you know this is something that probably really helped american pinball i'm not saying they didn't have to work you know as hard they had to work just as hard i'm sure but it's got to be really nice that some things came to them on a silver platter of assets and they could focus on other things yeah and it's probably been they're probably i don't know if they'll ever go back to the open ip thing again no i i don't think they will because like i said they are progressing and i i disagree with your negative part of that because like you said they they need you know i've said this all along and i still maintain they need themes but when you said the positive side about about having the assets and all that stuff yeah wholeheartedly agree and i think this is their stepping stone to continue to get even bigger ips yep and what i mean that by that negative is like you know houdini and Oktoberfest, you know, for that, for those things, it's like, what was I going to say? There's just not enough broad appeal, though. That's my only problem. Oh, no. With Oktoberfest and Houdini, I remember now, you're basically an artist with a blank canvas. You can do whatever you want, which is the benefit of an open IP, and that's kind of what I meant, versus if you have a theme, there are certain things that you have to have in the theme. You know what I'm saying? For example, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, they can't use the old cartoons theme song. They had to use their new remixed version. Very true. Not that it's bad at all, but it's something you have to use. You sleepy? I'm always yawning. You know that. We're keeping you up, Drew. But like I said, if your goal is to sell more units, you need a theme. Oh, yeah. And to your point, that opens up a lot of different markets. Yes. Now you have a whole Hot Wheels community that's going to collect. You know what I'm saying? And once again, this is not a knock. This is just my honest opinion. I am pleasantly surprised with how well integrated this whole thing is. Oh, yeah. Right? Because when we first heard it, let's be honest, we moaned and groaned. We're like, eh. 100% I was upset because I just didn't understand why Hot Wheels. If you were going to do your first theme, Hot Wheels isn't on anyone's top 50. Nope, but guess what? They did really good with this. They took it and they fucking ran with it. And you know what? We should have known this when I found out that Roger Sharp was involved. Meaning? Well, because I can't imagine, you know, because, yeah, Roger Sharp gets paid for it. I get it. He's a consultant. He's the guy, right? But he's really good at licensing. I can't imagine Roger Sharp, and I don't know him, but he seems like a pretty nice guy, maybe one of the nicest guys ever in the world, that he would say, yeah, if he thought that it wasn't a great theme, he'd be like, you know, he would just say, okay. I'm going to get this for you I have to think that he knows better than that and he would steer them in the right direction especially if he's getting paid for that does that make sense? no it makes sense because Roger Sharp it's not like he needs all no one knows his financial situation but it not like oh I just doing this for the money and I don care I going to going to get you the shitty license You know what I mean It just not It doesn make sense to me Flippin Out Pinball You want a new Stern? Boom, we have you covered. You want a new Chicago Gaming Company remake? Boom, we have you covered. You want a brand new Shiny from JJP? Guess what? Boom, we have you covered again. P3 Multimorphic? We can do that too. We got mods, shaker motors, even some used pinball inventory. Flip N Out Pinball also sells the Stair Climbing Escalera Hand Truck. Email Zach at Flip N Out Pinball or call or text 812-457-9711. Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. Flip, letter N, Out Pinball. All right, so what else is going on in news? Well, you know, Ken Cromwell's back on the airwaves there. It was good to hear Ken. Yeah, JJP's podcast. So they had the owner of Jersey Jack Pinball, and it's not Jack Quinari. Why did I think it was Jack? I don't know. Why would we think Jersey Jack Pinball is owned by Jack? Oh, gosh. I mean. Isn't that amazing? A little bit. I don't remember ever seeing an announcement. So whatever, man. So Brett Abbas was the interviewee, and he is the owner of Jersey Jack Pinball. So the interview was pretty decent. He came across as genuinely likes the hobby and wants – he also said that pinball is hard because apparently he's been pretty much involved since Hobbit. So they're on Title III or IV with him now. Yeah, his LinkedIn profile says he is a pinball wizard. Is he, though? Not so sure how I feel about that one. Show us your Oktoberfest high score, sir. I don't know, Brett. I don't know, bro. But, you know. I wonder why no one comes on our show. I just find it so interesting that it was his dad who bailed out Jack or took over the company. And then he gave it to Brett. No, no. So see, Leonard, his father, Leonard's name has been out there for a while. Leonard's been an investor for a long time. Okay. I think Leonard was an investor since almost the beginning. I thought it was to save him after Woz. It could have been. Yeah. So it was very early on, though. So Leonard, because Leonard's name has been out there for a while, and this is Leonard's son. Yes. I do want to give a shout out to Leonard. So several years ago, I don't know if you remember this story. He didn't publicize this. Someone found out about it and reported on it because he's a humble guy. He's a billionaire. He's worth, I think, $1.5 billion or something, right? Yeah. He sold this bank and he made $400 million or something like that, right? Mm-hmm. He had about 400 employees at said bank. Mm-hmm. he gave $60 million to those 400 people. Oh, cool. Isn't that neat? Yeah. So he took $60 million of the sale. I think it worked out to like $120,000 per person. And he just said, hey, this isn't all my success. You guys helped with this. And he gave them all a bunch of money. So, you know, pretty cool. Yeah, he's a giving guy. Yeah. He gave Brett a company. Yeah. And he gave his son a company then. so yeah i'm just giving you shit brett i know you listen mr abbas um brett are you coming on are you listening somewhere ken's clenching his fist going damn you ian what's going on here hey where are you going with this ian ken relax brother i just want to say it was good to hear i just i just wanted to give him a shout out though that's pretty cool no no so listen to that the jersey jack pinball podcast yeah number one it's going on now man so it's very exciting But it makes a lot more sense now, though. Because you're like, okay, Jack's still living in Jersey. They moved the whole operations to Chicago. You know what I mean? Well, right. We were at the Wonka review, and he's the one reading off his phone about the Wonka thing. And I was like, ah, okay. All right. Who's this guy again? Yeah, we had no idea. Didn't know. It's just poor announcements. I would just like to know who the hell's in charge. I don't know why. Maybe so I can point a stick and go, that's Brett's fault that The Hobbit only had two ramps and a couple trolls. I guess, I mean, I guess. Again, I'm fucking with you, Brett. It's fine. I guess it's like all businesses, but it's like, yeah, why can't you just come out and say this? You know what I mean? Like, hey, because I know they're private. They're not a public company. I get that part. So they don't have to. Why don't you just make an announcement and say, hey, I'm Jack Guarnieri. you know i'm the principal founder of this company yeah and he's still a partial owner yeah absolutely yeah you know him and his wife still own whatever percent they don't even have to tell us that but it's like okay you know these are the investors this is leonard and his son brett fine you know and now brett is the ceo of jersey jack pinball what's wrong with that nothing that's what i mean right because then we'd be like okay jack so i gotta awkwardly message ken i'm like who is this yeah no ian did because he's like uh i just want to make sure yeah i just want to get it clear yeah because otherwise we're going to be like jack got fired and jumped off a cliff i just didn't want to be that yeah i wanted to be somewhat informed when we talk about this that kind of thing you know so once again for clarity jack is still a part of the company yes partial owner yep partial owner and leonard and his son are partial owners or majority owners or whatever majority at this Yeah, but Brett is basically running the company. Yep. Brett is making the decision, so to speak. So there you go. So he's making the decision to, are you guys revealing Guns N' Roses tomorrow? No? Crickets? Nothing? Brett's not listening. Ah, okay. Sorry. I thought he was. I didn't know where you were going with that. I didn't know where I was going with that. You probably knew more where I was going with that than I knew where I was going with that. I was like, did I miss a joke there? All right, anyway. All right, so moving on there. Moving on. Tracy Jacks, got their podcast. Boom, boom, boom. All done. So what else we got? We got, that's about it for news. I think that's it for news this week. Nothing too crazy. I got my invoice for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Congratulations, my man. I haven't told my wife yet. No, here's what's funny. I also got served with divorce papers. It's pretty crazy. So I told Zach, I'm like, yeah, just put me on the list for it. He's like, no problem. Like, the next day, he sends me an invoice. I'm like, really, Zach? Like, this is real now? Too real, too real. I know. Like, give me this money. Damn, Zach, no foreplay? What's going on? I know, I know. Zach, can't you just tickle my balls a little bit? Zach, just give me a little reach around. Come on, man. Just close your eyes, reach around. It'll be fine. Yeah, come on, Zach. Play with the man a little bit. Invoice him right away. It's one of those effed up things where my wife doesn't care. She's just going to tell me I'm an idiot, but I'm about to tell her. I'm like, I'm getting this new game. And then I'm like, not now. Don't do it now. Wait. Wait until she's at her happiest. And we've had some happy moments recently, believe it or not. And I'm just like, now's the time. And I'm like, no, Tim Lee. See, I'm so jealous of Tim Lee because Tim Lee tells us this stuff. And he's like, my wife told me, why are you thinking about selling a game? Just buy another game. I'm like, whose wife says that? Who are you? You magical Anne mistress. Yes. Mistress Anne is awesome. Yeah, we love Mistress Anne. So anyways, but that's my news. That ends news. Very cool. Very cool. All right, so that's it. We're done with the news. You know what we should do? Let's take a little bit of a cocktail break And we will be back in a little bit Alright, and we're back Hope you enjoyed that music I hope you were able to refresh your cocktail. But here we go. We're going to do some tribe member introductions. Tribe member introductions. We haven't done this in a while. We haven't gone down the list in quite some time. So let's do that. Let's do the list. Here are our current tribe members. Number one. Number one, Ryan Kuyper. TurboGrafx-7. Number two, Martin, listener number 15. Number three, Brad Hopkins. Number four, Ian Hauer. Number five, Eric Braden Walker. I think he's just Eric Walker now. Number six, Mike Williams. Number seven, Glenn Glenn Waechter. Number eight, Sean Fraden. Number nine, Dave Jeff Brenner. We heard him last week or last episode. Number 10, Josh Mudd. Number 11, Daniel Donald. Number 12, Tim Lee. Number 13, Brian Thomas. Number 14, Pete Quint. Number 15, Jeff LaGrange. Number 16, Steve Johnson. That man is so glad it's not banana. Yellow Tree Dicks. Number 17 is Joseph Hood. Check out our fan page for the Yellow Tree Dicks. Number 18 is Christopher Haper. Number 19, Billy Y.J. Yeager himself. Number 20, Chris Grosvenor, the pin turn. Number 21, Troy Swope. Number 22, Jonathan Hall. Number 23, Lee Bellhumer. number 14 rod in osborne okay i should stop there for a second so rod in some audio message last week with kaneda about kaneda calling him a moron yeah apparently that was a total joke guys total joke that we had no idea no idea so it was like a carrie hardy moment we remember when carrie hardy was given chris a hard time about owning one machine during the Does everyone fake hate Kaneda, or does everyone really hate Kaneda? Ah, it's so confusing. Nobody's in on this dumb joke. Okay, I'll tell you what. Kaneda, we love you. True story. You're a little hard to take sometimes, but we love you. Yeah, and Rodden, we love you too. You're hard to take too. Fuck, Rodden. Rodden, you just use words that don't exist. Why? Why, Rodden? Oh, we love you. Going out to the bog. We love you, Rodden. All right, number 25, John Cosson, Dr. John himself. number 26 elbert agar which is orbital elbert orby number 27 christopher franchi i don't even know who that is franchi and number 28 ari charles jones ari jones he won our shaker motor contest which he gave it to danny t so that is the tribe member list guys so drew how do you become a tribe member number one like us on facebook easy especially now check out our new fan page poor man's pinball podcast fan page please yep so like us like us there uh join join the fan page thank you again billy yeager and billy yj and pete quint for taking care of the fan page yep our social media tribe members yep uh number two this is always a test for drew and he fails every week so number two is email us communicate with us regularly and uh you know shoot the shit with us number three is drew help us grow our podcast help us grow our podcast i do listen drew i listen sometimes he knows how to become a tribe member drew would never be a tribe member i know i'm tribe member number half and i still have no clue how i got here yes so um so help us grow our podcast uh the fourth pillar of excellence fell over toppled it's done that was just no media members but now we're doing it orby albert pushed it over yeah francie came yeah kuiper was actually in number one we didn't even think about it no no we we made up these loose rules can you believe we didn't have structure it's crazy nuts and the secret pillar number five is secrets so you will never know we will never tell you so um it's give us a thousand dollars no no it's not if people stop sending us pictures of your dick that's not it oh i don't know if i want a thousand dollars of pictures of dicks more i'm thinking it's a tough one it is a tough one so anyway um so that's a hard one yeah so so let's go into this week's tribe member induction yes shall we do that yes so this will be tribe no member number 29 just try a chunk a to-jum this is why we are so professional yeah tribe member number 29 drew 29 he's so good at this all right here we go drum roll drew andrew pain tribe member number 29 andrew pain andrew pain in my ass how are you doing brother thank you so much he has been begging us for like a year and a half that we haven't even been doing this like before we even started doing this he was begging us to get in all right not true but um he has been uh pretty active emailing us super active and kind of participating with us in the tribe and andrew pain also did have one of the nicer yeah one of the better entries into our shaker motor contest about and i'm just going to read that again read it again yep ian and drew i formally apply to be a member of the poor man's tribe i listened to each episode laughed loudest at the alternate back glass stiffy that drew popped the last uh that's one about me uh so about me favorite game tie lord of the rings dress park premium drinks tie between an ipa beer or a bourbon and coke god damn morgan joyces he's like our he's like our spirit animal is uh most anticipated new title guns and roses and maybe a rick and morty if i can find one on location uh dad joke what happened to the guy who tripped on a bra he fell in a booby trap that was my favorite that's what sealed the deal for him favorite podcasters ty drew and ian oh there are no better so flattery gets you everywhere so why don't you why don't you kiss our butthole some more andrew pan you goddamn beautiful man so what we're gonna do is i'll probably friend on Facebook, and then we'll invite you into the secret Poor Man's Pinball Tribe page. And you can look for the next Zoom that we have. It's the most ridiculous thing. Zooming away. Also, we will be donating $10 in your name to Project Pinball. Yep. So there we go. Project Pinball charity. It's a great charity and awesome. We love it. So thank you, Andrew. Welcome to the tribe, brother. Welcome, Andrew. Yay. So glad to have you here. you know you're one of the first uh people to ask and get in besides franchi and orby oh yeah orby did ask didn't he no he didn't nobody's asked nobody cares about us franchi asked franchi no he was mad at us franchi got butthurt he just got pissed one day i not in you guys suck i like oh you right franchi we love you I kid I kid All right so let go into mail call Mail bag Mail bag All right, so the first mail bag. Drew, you don't know about this one. Nope, I sure don't. It came in a nice piece of paper here. They sent it to you in real mail? There's more. Ian and Drew, thank you for the mention a couple episodes back during the sponsor's ads. Here's my sponsorship payment. I know you like your liquor a bit sweeter, so at least this is a little more manly than coconut rum. Come on, guys. Grow a pair. Drink it on the rocks. No fucking mixers. By the way, both Franchi and Kaneda episodes were awesome. Don't forget us little guys when you launch. Poor Man's Pinball Podcast 2.0. Cheers. Doc Finlay. PinballPrices.com. And he sent that with this beautiful bottle of Honey Jack for Drew and I to drink. Oh, that's awesome. And that is what I'm drinking today is the Honeydew. Doc. Follow me on Twitter at pinballdoc, which we do. So, guys, again, that's a good reminder, pinballprices.com. It's a great resource for your pinball pricing needs. I'm telling you. Did we just get our fourth sponsor? He paid us. It's official. Yeah, let's just call it official. All right, our fourth sponsor. Doc. Doc, welcome aboard. That paper under the floor. OK. That's how easy we are, kids. Poor Man's Pinball Podcast is officially brought to you by pinballprices.com. Pinballprices.com. Get your pinball prices there. All it takes is a bottle of booze. All it takes is a bottle of booze. And we will shell the shit out of your shit. Shell the shit out of your shit. Shield the shit out of your shit. We are this. I asked Zach for a bottle of booze for a pinball machine. He just sent me a bottle of booze. And I was like, okay, fine. Flipping out pinball. Flipping out pinball. Call Zach. He also sent you an invoice. yeah and he's like pay me fucker like how does this work yeah yeah sponsorship's hard yeah buy a new machine from zach give me thousands of dollars yeah no flipping out just fucking killing it yeah zach has been just on point dude has been killing it lately he everywhere shaker motor flipping out yeah flipping out pinball straight down the middle stuff he's got the pinball network he's on fire the guy does not sleep i mean it is amazing and you know today again he was talking about his patients because we forget he's like a child psychiatrist or something yeah so it's like holy shit i can't i struggle with that because i can't picture him being serious that's the only part i can't get over i can't picture him being like yeah not sarcastic that's what i'm saying he's like what the fuck kid yeah well uh try this exercise don't be a little shit yeah i'm probably he's probably very very professional no i'm sure he's awesome for those kids but no it's weird it's hard because we see his other persona yeah because i'm just thinking like i'm like this in real life and i couldn't do that against no no drew doesn't have another like professional side it's just uh no this is just i have a professional job but this is how i actually got a professional job and somehow it's fake it till you make it kids you know it so uh so pinballprices.com go visit them absolutely thank you thank you so much thank you so much for the booze it'll be drunken drinking drinking drunken drunken we will be drunken oh my god we gotta stop spending so much fucking time i know i was listening to our episode when we both said uh what was that thing ah shit last week yeah we didn't say sock watch we said uh we both just said topper gate and we really didn't plan it there was no notes and i'm like oh my god what the fuck is happening i know we just we've become the same person yeah um it's crazy but no uh big special thank you to zach over at flipping out pimbo though flipping out pimbo has been very good to us and the shaker motor we have we have a few more giveaways yet you know because of him and wait to get my turtles premium from him i'm gonna be i'm gonna be pushing that button on that glider just back and forth be like thanks zach yes this is me pushing that button all right that's really loud all right um so uh here we go we do have a new rotten episode so we're gonna play that right now Right, Trevor, just close the door and sit down and let's have a little heart-to-heart conversation about last week's segment, briefly, before we launch into an all-new direction. Mate, what the fuck was that? An off-the-rails train wreck. The Canadian sender went down like a fart in an elevator. The surprise intro? It went for 32 seconds, mate. You were probably conceived in less time. Ian and Drew had no fucking idea what that was about God knows what the listeners thought Do you think at some point we should have let someone know it was a send up? Yes, yes, yes I saw the message from Zach, loved it and thought it was epic One person And lucky for you, a very important person The major sponsor of the show Probably saved my ass Let's leave the comedy act to the professionals from now on I don't want to come across like a Zac Stark raving lunatic wanting to cause life-threatening injuries to Canada. It's not who we are. Trev, I know you had good intention, and that's why we're having this little chat. I need you to understand that these blokes are fucking professionals. Number one in the TWIP ratings guide, and we're riding their coattails. At the moment, my credibility is lying in some urinal at a truck stop in Olathe, Kansas. Now mate, go and get me a couple of fresh VBs and we'll turn the page. It's our Franchi Twippy Trophy stomping moment, OK? But not again. A whole new beginning. I'll do the intro from now on. G'day poor men, Ian and Drew, and you the listeners. Let's rip the cap off another cold one from the games room fridge and gently navigate through a week in the life down under. It's currently 9pm Saturday night here in the land of Oz. this week I thought I'd take a look at what's going on in my world of pinball to avoid any further international controversy or confusion. I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel with a full restoration of a Bali Circus Voltaire and fuck me fellas, this has cost me four arms, three legs and a testicle. I'm up around 9,000 US dollars which is about 13,000 Australian Monopoly tickets. They say the best two days of owning a pinball you do a full restoration on are the day you buy it and the day you sell it, and that day can't come quick enough. This one has dragged on for nearly three years, and for various reasons we won't canvas here, we could be here all night, but mainly my easy distraction to start new things before I finish the current project. The game when purchased had been on site 20 years non-stop. Every part including the playfield has now been replaced. Literally the only original parts would be the harness, the light soccers and major mechs in the game. Extra features I added have been pin stadiums which I only installed this weekend Shout out to Scott and the colour DMD Looks like Christmas on a stick This will be going off to market soon and we shall see how much charity work I have carried out for the new owner I somehow think I'm going to take one hell of a bath on this project Then it's back into a homebrew project I started a while back prior to the Circus Voltaire arriving This will be revealed next week in an exclusive for the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. So that's what's going on down here. It's now the middle of winter with the Fahrenheit getting down as low as 45 in the early mornings and up around 65 to 70 during the day. So the pool is not an option for a couple of months and the suntan is gone. So let's get this next project up and running. Till next week, Poor Man, I'm off to bed. it's now after midnight sunday morning in the future 9 a.m saturday yesterday over there but four days before this hits the internet you work that out trevor's fallen asleep i better go put him to bed till next week all right so i know what i understood what he was saying this time fucking hey you did great i got the whole thing rotten thank you you were talking my language you're talking about restoring a game circus volterra is super cool spending some some ten thousand ten thousand dollars fucking coin man here here in the states i think that would go for eight maybe nine and you spent thirteen thousand australian that's yeah that's some serious but i'm sure you'll get some good money back for it yeah how many circus volterras are on your island you know yeah yeah no because the really nice ones here go for nine sometimes even ten yeah i hope if you got a new play field hope you hope it's not all charity there bell but jesus thank you so much for speaking english this week oh sure you're a dick yeah what can i say uh he's leaving the comedy for us he said so that's all right well no we got the joke this time yeah we did you know that that that last episode uh for you listeners out there i actually deleted about i edited about a minute and a half off of it but he went on and he was about ready to he went into this whole thing i was gonna fight kaneda behind the schoolhouse and stuff and i was like i'm just done with this this can't you can't keep going on with him just attacking canada listen to these like as in real time yeah like we're listening for the first time we listen when you guys kind of listen and uh this is our genuine reaction ian and i were listening to that one last week and we just didn't get it we're like i don't understand what what is happening why does he want to kill him yeah like we understand we understand he's upset with canada but yeah what happened and what you know they just called him a moron that's all i could understand but there wasn't a lot of context so uh rodden keep sending them in because that was really cool this week we actually got it we knew what was going on awesome yeah we appreciate all your submissions because you are awesome funny yeah fucking funny rod and you crack me up man three legs and two arms or whatever three legs four arms you know buddy you should stop killing people sounds like you're murdering people over there but anyway yeah super cool thank you very much rodden for that audio submission if you want to get involved and send an audio submission tim lee i'm listening or i'm talking to you brother brother i don't know we haven't heard from tim in a while so tim lee um you know all that good stuff but thank you so much again rodden and thank you guys for listening. We're going to get out of here. Another short episode, and this is kind of how we like it. We're going to try to keep it under an hour. Thank you for making us the number two pinball podcast in the world. We can say that because no one's testing, no one's checking. Yep. We know Kanade is number one because he gets the twippies. Thank you for the twip reviews. Yeah. Appreciate that. Silverball Swag. Check us out, silverballswag.com. Buy our stuff. We are very close now to getting video equipment, right? Yeah, we're real close. So that's coming up. So we need about 20 more t-shirt sales. Yeah, no doubt. Blank nudge nudge. Anyway, so we got that going for us. Fire shit. So we're all fired. Fire shit. And what else is going on? Oh, like us on, or follow us on Twitter. Like us on Facebook. Yep, Facebook fan page. And of course, thank you very much to our sponsors, Pinshades, Pinstadiums. Lippin' Out Pinball. Lippin' Out Pinball. And our newest one. 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And, Drew, man, I'm so proud of you. What did you learn? Today I learned that we can be bought for a bottle of booze. And I'm happy about that. You know what? I do not care. That feels great. All right. What did you learn today, Ian? I learned that I learned that Rodden can speak English I can't You're a dick That's Drew's joke, that's not my joke Shoot, I learned that We can get Popeye for a bottle of booze It's crazy Alright, well thank you very much everybody Oh, I learned, no, this is what I really learned I learned that Jersey Jack pinball Is not owned by Jersey Jack How about that? Oh, there you go. Boom. Fair enough. That's something I learned. All right, guys. Thank you so much for listening. Enjoy the butthole song. Bye-bye. Thanks, guys. 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