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Stream 532: Godzilla (Stern) LE

Don't Panic Flip·video·2h 2m·analyzed·Jan 27, 2022
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TL;DR

Don't Panic Flip streams Godzilla LE beta code with Escher; discusses code updates and competitive pinball.

Summary

George from Don't Panic Flip streams gameplay of Godzilla (Stern) LE with special guest Escher, who brings beta code featuring Planet X. The stream covers extended gameplay, discussion of recent code patches addressing drain loop exploits (credited to Zach Sharpe), tournament preparation for Indus, and broader pinball culture topics including game ownership, trading, and competitive metrics like PPM (points per minute).

Key Claims

  • Zach Sharpe and I abused the drain loops on Godzilla, shooting the right ramp 68 times in a row, leading to game code changes.

    high confidence · George and Escher discussing Godzilla code updates during gameplay; directly attributed to both as cause of balance changes

  • Arvid (Swedish player, ranked fourth in the world) is attending Indus tournament.

    high confidence · George mentions learning about Arvid attending Indus and commits to attending despite COVID precautions

  • Planet X mode in the beta code previously crashed on Kyle's stream.

    high confidence · George and Escher confirm Planet X crashed on Kyle's stream; this code version hopes to fix it

  • George bought Ultraman for $9,500 (including $500 shipping) and sold it for $8,000, losing $1,500.

    high confidence · Direct discussion of Ultraman transaction during stream; George expects value recovery within a year if code improves

  • The bumper skill shot is activating on locks in current Godzilla beta code when it shouldn't be.

    high confidence · George identifies potential bug during gameplay: 'The bumper skill shot is active on locks when all the other skills are not. I believe that's what I just saw.'

  • George won Pinball Expo twice: most recently received a Godzilla LE, previously held off until Godzilla release to claim his prize.

    high confidence · George explains Pinball Expo prize strategy: won once without claiming, then won again after Godzilla released

  • Deadpool's Snick target is unfairly inconsistent and unbalanced, making strategy-focused gameplay inadvisable.

    high confidence · George and Escher discuss Deadpool tournament strategy; George states Snick inconsistency makes multiplier focus better than target optimization

  • Emily (George's family member) was tired and watching Arcane (League of Legends series) instead of attending stream.

    high confidence · George responds to chat question about Emily's absence; describes her as 4 episodes deep in Arcane series

Notable Quotes

  • “I shot the right ramp 68 times in a row okay and i got 14 billy... it's a change due to abuse but the fact that it changes at all is actually really cool.”

    George@ 25:59 — Reveals direct player exploit leading to code balancing changes; demonstrates developer responsiveness to abuse

  • “Ultraman is gorgeous. And the biggest issue with it right now is that the code is just abysmal. But if you wait another year, I'm thinking the value on it's going to go back up.”

    George@ 35:58 — Assessment of secondary market pinball values and code quality impact on pricing

  • “I personally hate League of Legends. It was my least favorite video game ever made, and it's not even close.”

    George@ 11:16 — Personal gaming preference; context for why he's skeptical about Arcane despite praise

  • “Don't drain. Hit your shots and have fun and be yourself. Otherwise, what's the point?”

    Chat (Bill from Memphis via Don't Panic Flip)@ 26:24 — Community wisdom on pinball philosophy; adopted by hosts as best general advice

  • “Playing the game perfectly. Everything is coming together. It's all getting... It's so funny because...”

    George@ 34:47 — Commentary on code improvements making Godzilla more enjoyable with recent patches

Entities

GeorgepersonEscherpersonZach SharpepersonCasey DeanpersonArvid FlygarepersonDon't Panic FliporganizationGodzilla (Stern)gameDeadpoolgame

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Don't Panic Flip stream integrates viewer rewards system (points redemption for merch/t-shirts), Discord community coordination, and direct bug reporting channel ('write that down, Keith, if you're watching')

    high · Multiple chat interactions: Evil Peaches redeeming 25,000 points for stickers, Arthur Pendragon redeeming t-shirt, Discord reminder system for prize fulfillment

  • ?

    competitive_signal: PPM (points per minute) emerging as preferred competitive metric over absolute score; George and Escher discuss implementing PPM leaderboards instead of high score boards

    medium · George: 'I want to see the scoreboard of highest PPM ever. Because I think that's a better tell' and 'it's all about keep that PPM up' for tournament success

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Deadpool Snick target exhibits inconsistent/floating behavior making reliable strategy impossible; players default to playfield multiplier focus rather than target optimization

    high · George extensive discussion of Snick inconsistency: 'it's like, oh, I'm in multi-ball... I hit a super jackpot at the same time. Okay, now I have two X-multiplier fields. That doesn't seem fair' and 'if the shot...sometimes it wouldn't give it to you' due to floating bracket

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Godzilla design benefits from community-driven exploit discoveries; developers (Casey Dean) actively implement balance changes in response to specific player strategies (drain loop abuse by George/Zach Sharpe shooting right ramp 68x)

    high · George: 'it's a change due to abuse but the fact that it changes at all is actually really cool' and direct attribution of changes to Zach Sharpe/George feedback

  • ?

Transcript

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0:30
Thank you. Hello? Good evening! Hi, my name is George, and great intro. Thank you, Test Bishop, and welcome! Manu, bring the pain. We, this evening, are playing some Godzilla, but we have a special guest. We have Escher here with us. Hello. And Escher brought some beta code. So we are going to get to play code that has Planet X in it, right? Hopefully it doesn't crash. Okay, and hopefully it doesn't crash. I haven't played Godzilla since the last code, so I'm still learning. Okay.
6:46
When Escher says he's learning, I feel the need to kind of give up. I just realized you are actually taller than me, and you said it was just an inch or two. I feel... You're like 5'6", like 5'9", 5'10". I'm like, okay, well, I'm 5'11-ish. Ish, okay.
7:06
MPT-3K! Rating with a party of 45. MPT-3 makes us look good. Welcome to the stream. We are just getting started. We have Escher. If you're just joining us, we have Escher here. We've got Godzilla LE, and we've got beta firmware. and I can't think of a better way to get going right now than 45 people joining us. Oh, never mind. It's only Escher. It says Insanity Falls. Let's get a game going here.
7:38
Now, have you made it to the code where Planet X would be, but Planet X wasn't in there yet? Yeah, no, I've got it. I can't believe you don't believe me. Because you've got to beat all four of those people. Don't panic. Okay. Oh. I mean, yeah. That's actually not too bad. You're getting too much. No biggie. My phone right now.
Ultraman
game
James Cameron's Avatar (Limited Edition)game
Iron Maidengame
Transformers Limited Editiongame
Pinball Expoevent
Indusevent
Pinball Jonesorganization
Kathy Adamsperson
Miles Grayperson
Kyleperson
Arcaneproduct
Stern Pinballcompany

event_signal: Indus major tournament upcoming with top-tier international competitive participation (Arvid Flygare ranked 4th world); George committing despite COVID precautions

high · George discusses Arvid attending Indus, mentions quarantining/N95 precautions, commits to attending 'even if I had one day to qualify I don't care I'll still go'

  • $

    market_signal: Ultraman secondary market showing $8,000-$8,300 standard edition pricing despite $9,000 MSRP; code quality directly impacting resale value retention

    high · George: 'You're seeing consistently the value of that pin selling between $8,000 and $8,300 when it's $9,000 for the CE' and his own $1,500 loss sale

  • ?

    community_signal: Escher appears to be regular guest/collaborator on Don't Panic Flip with development/testing access to beta code; named after M.C. Escher artist

    medium · Escher brings USB stick with beta Godzilla code to stream; George defers to Escher's superior knowledge of game mechanics and strategies; appears comfortable with game's codebase

  • ?

    product_strategy: Planet X mode for Godzilla previously caused crashes during testing (Kyle's stream); current beta code aims to stabilize it

    high · George and Escher: 'I'm fairly certain Planet X crashed on Kyle's stream' and 'This is the version that we'll be playing it in this next week' indicating this is a patch build

  • ?

    product_strategy: Recent Godzilla code patches modify drain loop exploitability by changing mode value calculation; prevents intentional timeouts from providing better value on mode restart

    high · George: 'It used to be better value if you ran out of time intentionally, so then when you redid the mode, you had the max value' but this changed after Zach/George pitched the issue to Casey Dean

  • ?

    product_concern: Ultraman suffering from poor code quality leading to significant secondary market value loss; George sold at $1,500 loss and expects recovery only if code improves substantially

    high · George: 'Ultraman is gorgeous. And the biggest issue with it right now is that the code is just abysmal' and transaction details showing $9,500 purchase price vs $8,000 sale price

    • 8:00
    It took me a while to realize that his phone right now. You know what? There's a... I'll sign in when... Oh, okay. Yeah, when I go up. Cool. Also, Lipstream subscribing at tier three. My hat's off to you. Thank you. And welcome... Okay, code. Yes. It just barely kissed the magnet. I didn't get my super secret. It's funny, Insanity Falls is pointing out, by the way, that we have that pinball stance channel. And I took a picture of your stance. You have no stance. That's your stance. I know, I'm all over the place. It's just, you're very... Yeah, I keep my opponents guessing. Okay.
    8:46
    I like that. Holy sheath, is that the upside down Amway stuff? Hair cam. Oh, that's right. The hands cam.
    8:59
    You sit very far forward. No, no, no. It's totally the haircut. I deserve that. 100%. Instead of live catching, I went on the fly. And it instantly killed me as it should have. Game Club Central thinks you have very nice hair, by the way. Woo-hoo. Yeah, I got a haircut four weeks ago. And I'm going to have to get another one before I go to Indus. Something I learned about Indus today. You know Arvid, I think is the name? I do know that name, I don't know why I know that name He is the kid, Swedish kid He's ranked fourth in the world right now Okay, that might be why I know He is going to Indus Okay, so now you have to go Well, I mean, the only way I'm not going is if I catch COVID in the next seven days Honestly, at this point I am quarantining, essentially And I just got over it Yeah, I feel pretty good I feel pretty safe I'm like I got my booster you know I'm wearing my N95 mask everywhere and I'm like not going out much at all okay it's like I want to go to I would be like if I got it and I would get over it like on Saturday of the tournament I would drive there like on my own to get right even if I had one day to qualify I don't care I'll still go so flip stream I could be one of the safer people I can't be spreading it right now, and I am well past, I think I'm two weeks past the point at which I'd be contagious, so I should be one of the safer people at this point. And in Sanity Falls, George, for COVID Brothers. Actually, your dad, A, Arvid Flygare, or Flygari, maybe? Yes. And also wants to know where Emily is. Emily was tired, and she's four episodes deep on the League of Legends series. Arcane? Arcane it is so good so it is so good she was like on the fence if she wanted to go and it's like you know we might so yeah when you do that super skill shot shoot the mech of the Godzilla spinner on the fly okay did you get it gives you a it gives you an ally which is very oh yeah that's awesome yeah Arcane I haven't seen it it's so good I heard it's really good so she's getting through that I personally hate League of Legends It was my least favorite video game ever made, and it's not even close. So I need to watch it, like, out of principle, right? You know? Like, just the... I don't know anything about the backstory, and I play Heroes of the Storm as opposed to League of Legends. I'm sorry you picked that MOBA. I know. You could have picked any of the other MOBAs. It was Blizzard! Hey, Microsoft bought Blizzard? Yes! Activision! You have hope! Exactly! It could be a thing! Maybe don't revive the game! It's so unbalanced right now. It's the scoop, not the spinner. Oh, got it, got it. Thanks, Dad. Hey, Game Club Central also picked Heroes, and that may be the best choice.
    11:58
    I have never played Heroes. I've played every other Blizzard game except for that. I've played a lot of Hearthstone, except more than I'm willing to admit. I played a couple months of World of Warcraft. I played a lot of Overwatch. I played Diablo 2 Remake when it came out, Remaster. I think that came out. I played Diablo 3 for a couple, like a little bit. I think it was like three or something. Yeah, Diablo 3 was okay. I guess I haven't played Warcraft 3 either, but... I invested about a year of my life into World of Warcraft. Yep.
    12:34
    Insanity Falls asks, do you like Dota? I never really got into Dota. My dad... It was my first, like, PC game ever. I got it because my... parents saw in a news article that people were, you know, like, it was like the peak of, like, esports is like this new scary thing. And, you know, like, wow, these people are winning millions of dollars. Like, Escher used to check this game out. Yep. There's a lot of money in Dota.
    13:04
    Poor Counter-Strike. Ooh, yeah. That's funny too, man, because I played so much Counter-Strike in college, like, avoided working, and maybe didn't pass many classes because of Counter-Strike.
    13:16
    And that was before I felt like I understood that there could potentially be money in gaming. I just thought it was a waste of time. Insanity Falls was there as well. Thank you. Yes. So, yeah. I never got into Dota, but yeah. I love Counter-Strike. That was my game. Baldus Geek says, is Escher drinking water? And why is George allowing such nonsense? So, I'll have you know, Baldus Geek. He tries really hard. I do. I go out and I shop and I get all kinds of things. Not alcohol.
    13:47
    No, I also have a lot of alcohol. Well, yeah, it's not allowed. As his dad is here in stream, obviously we wouldn't do that. I mean, he didn't even let Emily drink. I did not let Emily. Even though in Australia, he's legally allowed to drink.
    14:04
    It's funny. When I was staying with Miles Gray from Canada, he is also allowed to buy alcohol and marijuana in Canada.
    14:15
    But not allowed to here, of course. Which is 19, which I didn't know that. Somebody asked last night, do you struggle at all with that scoop? I assume not. It depends. It depends, okay. Yeah.
    14:34
    Oh, you've never seen this before. Harnage bonus. Now, Baldist Geek, I'm drinking a rum mint mojito from Cutwater. Is that new? Or is that old code? The carnage bonus that just showed up on screen.
    14:49
    It's a carnage bonus, and it went through the four different things on the play field. I'd only played the mode. I don't know. That's new. Okay. Thanks, Dad.
    14:59
    My dad has played a lot more than I have. Okay. He also owns the game that I won, by the way. It's mine, sort of, technically, but it's at my parents' house. Sorry, this is the game you won at Expo? Well, no, that was the other Expo. I technically won two because I won the last Expo, which I didn't win any games, so I held off until Godzilla came out. And then after Godzilla came out, I'm like, I want Godzilla. And then the new Expo rolled around, and then I won that Expo. And then I got another Godzilla and sold it. So you're getting whatever I'm guessing then for this expo You'll probably take whatever If I win expo again Then I'll wait for the next Keith game I was about to say, okay There's no other games I want to own, I guess So the beta code is It has to come in on a USB stick Like the good old days You young kids Wait, it's only been one game, right?
    16:01
    That'd be cool If they like For the testers and everything they like send it remotely. I mean, I don't think that would work, but... Hey, George, are Escher's diamond shoes looking super tight? Ah, there was a joke at one point about diamond shoes that I totally missed that MPT3K completely understood that I think Flipstream... Well, I got all three allies at once. Nice.
    16:27
    Is that a thing? It's a thing, but I don't think it gets me anything. You know that thing where you're at like a live event, but you end up watching your phone or the television at the live event rather than watching the live event directly? Because the coverage is better?
    16:44
    Like when you're at a football game and you watch the screen because you can't really see because everyone's taller than you and you're eight years old.
    16:54
    Not weirdly specific at all. and I asked my dad when are people going to sit down so I can see and he said they're not going to but that's okay it's okay, yeah totally I don't have this very specific problem yeah, no way you're are you a big football guy? okay, so I have never enjoyed watching football but somebody introduced me to fantasy football fantasy, of course, I knew it the way that you're setting it up Oh my God, here comes the fantasy. And so I started to get into it, and I would then go to the, on Sunday, and I'd go to the bar, and I'd sit in front of like 18 different screens, and I wrote a bunch of software. Like, I started investing entirely too much time until I realized that it was about six years in that I still don't like watching football. You like the idea of watching football, but not watching football. Yes. It gets, yeah, it's just not, it's just not. I get that. Okay, cool. You are not alone in that. Okay. There's a lot of people that play... Higher peanut, we're referring to American football here. Yeah, not soccer or football everywhere else in the entire world. Yes. No, soccer is basically like how boring football is, but multiply that by ten.
    18:17
    Yeah. Well, at least soccer is always something's happening. Football, there's all the downtime and ads. Hockey, on the other hand, I feel like for that same reason, there's... Hockey is crazy because there's always games. Everyone is always moving around the ice. There's always crazy action. There's always people beating the shit out of each other. Yes. Well, okay. The fighting thing is... Okay, so what's going on? Big button. Woo!
    18:42
    $215 million. Yeah. Wow. So what made you decide to use that right then? Because I had a max value super. which is when you get all nine shots. You hit all the red arrows. So you hit all three shots three times. Got it. And then the super, because the super value is depending on how many sets of jackpots you've gotten all the way down, right? So I've gotten all three of the side loops, so that shot's gone. I need one more on the right ramp and one more on the left ramp. So the super's lit now, but it's only 2x. Now it's 3x because I've finished three shots. and are you then working on building up your heat ray again? no I don't need the heat ray I just did it the easy way so I have another big super like gigantic super lit on the center but because I've done it legit if I hit the backward shot I did it, I mean it's still good points but you can actually double that to like 400 something million ok so I see 3x jackpot 4xJackpot99, did I miss the 200 million? Yeah, it was like 240. Okay. I mean, that was a decent multi-ball. Arthur Pindragon, about five minutes ago, asked if you were giving your thesis again on Godzilla. And I was about to say, originally, I feel like your dad was actually there. My dad knows a lot more than me now. But you're doing it, and you're like, I'm playing my own pinball.
    20:13
    Dice, good evening. and he says, good evening, Pinfolk George and MC Escher. That's who I'm named after. Oh, you are named after him? I am. Yeah. Cool. The artist. He's a cool artist. Oh, yeah, he is.
    20:28
    He's got weird stuff. Oh, it's only one heat rate for multiball now, I believe. Okay. So you can get a second one after that.
    20:39
    Secret combo. Have they nerfed this yet? Or is this one still incredibly overpowered. Let's find out. Wow. Bill from Memphis, Surreal, welcome to the stream. Surreal's, one of his favorite artists is Escher. Yeah, well, he's my favorite, but I'm biased, of course. Sure. It's a cool name. I don't think a lot, there's not a lot of Asher's. No? No. I was like 17 or something the year I was born. We're named Asher in the United States. And that website has very questionable... Oh yeah, totally believable source for that kind of data. Yeah, exactly. It's like... Oh. I was on double danger.
    21:29
    Hey, I did... Oh! I don't know if we installed... Yeah, you should check to see if we installed the earplug on this. I'm pretty sure you did. Okay, not worth checking? Not worth checking. Okay.
    21:41
    Yeah, I didn't see anything. It tilted, so it doesn't count. Yeah, we don't death save. Death saving is... Okay, no more death... I won't death save anymore. No, no, I just... It's a general rule. You can death save if you want to, but that's... It's death saves. Arden, nudging up most of the time.
    22:01
    I don't know if I'm reading the question I don't know if it's phrased right. Oh, Escher is nudging up most of the time that you flip. Wait, yeah. Am I? Maybe.
    22:12
    Oh, I almost said Man Adams' name. I don't know if you're okay with that, but Man Adams, can you try that again? Because that seemed like a good question. Yeah, no, the phrasing's a little, I was a little confused on the phrasing.
    22:26
    And Dice said you can't tilt when you don't have a tilt bob. True. Excellent point, very true. So if you hit the game hard enough, the Till Bob will eventually fall off. Pro tip.
    22:36
    Man, I would have a lot more points if I hit my Destruction Jackpots. Oh, Man Adams is asking, are you nudging up when you flip most of the time? I don't think so. I'm not intentionally. I flip hard, but... I thought maybe that's what you were asking. So I was kind of watching there. He kind of does. When he's letting loose and not paying attention, he does... There's a lot of body language or body English that goes into each flip, which is funny because I was just commenting on that about Mike from Pinballers. He does the same thing.
    23:09
    His flips sound angry is the only way I can describe it. And when he does it, it's passionate. Okay, there you go. He's a passionate flipper. Oh, my gosh. That was the worst possible scenario. Wow. rage flipping says flipstream okay a casual bill no biggie I got this 20 million to a bill it's okay you just gotta do what I did yeah I'm just gonna do that I'm gonna get my first destruction jackpot we got this game you and me we're gonna hit this loop I hit it 7 times in a row last night you got like a 7 way combo? it was I hit the shot 7 times I don't know if there's... It's more impressive that the game fed you the ball seven times, like, in a way that you could actually hit it. In a way that allowed me, yeah.
    24:02
    Because I don't know if I've ever seen that. My best is a nine-way combo, but that was incredibly unfortunate because three times I missed in a way that it bounced back, that I got another chance. Oh, right. Or it, like, came off and I held the flip-flop and it hit the thing and came back to keep going. now if we were playing Star Trek I'd put a counter on that I feel cause I don't think I could beat you in anything in pinball but maybe loops on Star Trek's Warframe maybe I'll take that battle at some point and walk away very happy if I get anywhere close man I hit my first my score would be so much higher if I just hit my destruction jackpots I missed three of them at 100 million yeah where am I going? honestly, yeah, with the updated code this seems like it's you think it's getting a little bit closer to actual cool this comes up so often by the way Dice wants to remind you that Escher, don't forget, you can increase your bonus by just playing the game well. What? That was something you said. Our first time playing through Godzilla, I asked how you increase your bonus on Godzilla, and your response was to play the game well. Was that mine?
    25:32
    I'm sorry for terrible advice. Oh my god, no, it was great. It's just one of those things that I feel like it's repeated all the time now. oh man i kind of miss the old train loops uh so you see it puts a building up now yeah so it's changing it so that way you can't you can blame zach mccarthy and me for that by the way really yeah oh because you guys abused it yeah i shot the i shot the right around 68 times in a row okay and i got 14 billy that it's a change due to abuse but the facts that it changes at all is actually really cool. Yeah. It's definitely a lot better. Yeah. I'm dead. Yeah, I saw that one.
    26:14
    Also, Bill from Memphis has hit 11 loops once. Wait. How bad? 11 loops on Godzilla? Oh, 11 loops on the combo. Yeah.
    26:23
    Don't drain. Hit your shots and have fun and be yourself. Otherwise, what's the point? True. Nice. Well said.
    26:33
    Don't drain is the best pinball advice. Yes. I'm not great at that. But who isn't? 11 on Godzilla. Okay, that's the new target, the new goal.
    26:44
    You know, you can have that, man. I won't try to take that away from you. Mostly because there's no way I'll ever be able to do that.
    26:55
    But I still have to ask, the Lion's Godzilla finally got verified on the phone. So I got all this XP, which doesn't do anything yet. I hope it does something soon.
    27:09
    That would be cool. Please, I just want to play the game. I see you. Does it get shut down on a pro, though? I don't know.
    27:26
    I see you. Hi, by the way. Welcome to the stream. How are you doing? How are things? I see you. I have not seen a recent midday stream. how is the streaming going? Evil Peaches just redeemed a sticker, merch stickers for 25,000 points. Evil Peaches, you're on the Discord. Hit me up to remind me that I owe you some stickers. And that one I don't have a free link set up in order to get it, so you'll also have to send me your address if you haven't done so already.
    28:01
    Yay. Is there any point to power-ups yet? Ask Slipstream. Sorry, what are power-ups? I don't know what power-ups do.
    28:13
    Is there any points of power-ups yet? Yeah, hopefully. I don't know. Power-ups you just got from, like, doing tail whips and stuff.
    28:20
    And they got handed to you a lot for, like, random stuff late game. Like, after you do, like, the tenth.
    28:32
    Huh. You get like 15, whatever it's called. I'm trying to think of the jet fighters. Hurry up. Did you do enough of those?
    28:48
    But I don't think they have a purpose yet. I mean, they might. Again, I've been playing this code for about 20 minutes.
    28:57
    So. That is interesting. One of my favorite code updates that's something I really appreciated was when suddenly weapons had a use in Deadpool. Yeah, that was a good one.
    29:13
    MechSuit multiball is one of my favorite multiballs. Yeah, MechSuit's so much fun. And you get that dopamine hit of when you have a huge multiplayer field actually looking in.
    29:28
    So that's interesting. Do you go for your normal, like, I'm a hacker style points, figuring out the rule set on that? Or do you just give up and go for the playfield multiplier in Deadpool? Deadpool is fine. Deadpool would be so much better if Snick was different. That is the worst part of the game by a large margin, in my opinion. Okay. Because in tournaments, you get more Snicks, or I see people get more Snicks accidentally from the pop-up version they get intentionally. where it's like, oh, I'm in multi-ball and I mean, ball's coming out of the pops and I hit a super jackpot at the same time. Okay, now I have two X-ray fields. That doesn't seem fair. Right. Because a lot of the time the target isn't fair itself.
    30:19
    Right. On some, not saying on all, but on a lot of them, it's not like a fair shot. Like, you can hit it the same way and it won't give it to you. Now is it more so if you get the replacement snicked target bracket that stops it from floating See I don know I don know the difference So Okay Sorry. If the shot, maybe the question is, if there was a way to stop that shot from floating so it was more consistent, would it suddenly become easier? Yeah, if it was like, it was a shot, even if it was hard, and like sometimes it wouldn't give it to you, but you could actually like, on all of them, or at least 90% of them, you'd be like, okay, I'm shooting for Snick now. I'm going for Snicks. Okay, I got the Snicks. And you got it to a percentage of the time. Yeah. Because, like, for example, the one at Pinball Jones, right? In the tournament, you could Snick on. Like, it was that rare chance that, rare in my opinion, like, I don't see a lot that I can Snick on, that I could hit the Snicks, I don't know, about 10% of the time from the flipper. Yeah.
    31:26
    Where, because then the game turned into me having Megs who lit on ball one, and me shooting snicks until I got 2x or 3x and then going in and getting a billion and then coming out and it was being over. At that point, because it's so inconsistent, it makes a lot more sense to just focus on points. Yeah. And, again, it is truly the most valuable thing in the game because the multiplier is like two minutes or something. It's hilarious. Escher's pointing out, sorry, your dad, rather, is pointing out the new code. Yeah. This is newer than Carl's dream. Yeah. No, they, There was like a patch recently for it. I think it was, hopefully it was Planet X not crashing the game. That's what we're hoping. I'm fairly certain Planet X, I know, I know Planet X crashed on Carl's stream. Bummer.
    32:14
    This is the version that we'll be playing it in this next week. Okay. Do you know any or all of the secret combos yet? I think it was left ramp in the pot bumper gave me one.
    32:27
    Or maybe it was right ramp, left ramp into the pot bumper. I don't know. It gave me one, and it ended on the pop-over. So if you stay, you automatically go back into the... Okay. That's good, because I don't know if it used to do that.
    32:51
    And? I noticed that, what's it called, is gone. The other game that you were trying to sell. What? Yes, Ultraman is gone. Did you get a good price for it? No, I lost so much money.
    33:07
    Bummer. Yes. But that's okay, because now you don't own the game anymore. Yes. Okay. Oh, I still have to hit that? I don't think I can backhand that. So we're going to go... What, the scoop or the spinner? The spinner. Oh, you can backhand it. It doesn't give you a lot of spins. You only need one spin, at least. Okay. It was literally one spin. There you go.
    33:33
    Wow, you do not get good value anymore. That was another thing that Zach McCarthy and I pitched to Dean.
    33:42
    It used to be better value if you ran out of time intentionally, so then when you redid the mode, you had the max value. And we were telling them that we were timing out modes intentionally for the extra $50 million. You didn't play Power or Ridd or Tank. Okay, I gave myself Anguirus, right? Yes, I did I saw you make the conscious decision of choosing it I did That made me feel proud That was absolutely I did that Yes, you definitely did that Because I give you shit every time you don't do it Or you like pick Mothra by accident Always give you a hard time Thank you No, no, no You keep that up Alright, so what do I need? I need to hit the ramps
    34:28
    Just make sure you hit a couple of the red shots. There's no rush to it. Well, there's a little rush. But, uh...
    34:39
    Now that should light behind you. That's the next lock. Nice. Look at this. Playing the game perfectly. Everything is coming together. It's all... It's getting... It's so funny because... Oh, there's still us on locks now. I wonder if that's a bug. I bet that's a bug. That's a bug. All right, write that down, Keith, if you're watching. The Pop Bumper skill shot is active on locks when all the other skills are not. I believe that's what I just saw. I could be wrong, and maybe locks actually give you skill shots now. Arthur Pendragon just redeemed a Don't Panic Brick t-shirt. We got a lot of big redemptions tonight. I don't have a notification for that. I didn't hear it. But Arthur Pendragon, I'm fairly certain you're on the Discord as well. Hit me up on Discord. Throw me a reminder. I'll send you a link. He said he'll hit you up on Discord. Oh, actually, IceSkiDude, a shirt that could be redeemed. IceSkiDude, you've in the past gone ahead and just sent people the code and everything. Am I better off losing the $2,000 on Ultraman? I'll let you decide that on your own.
    35:50
    Okay, I have a thought on that, right? And this is what I, this is my actual thought on it is Ultraman is gorgeous. And the biggest issue with it right now is that the code is just abysmal. But if you wait another year, I'm thinking the value on it's going to go back up to maybe at least where you're not losing money. But you're seeing consistently the value of that pin selling between $8,000 and $8,300 when it's $9,000 for the CE. I mean, so you bought it for $9,000? I bought it for $9,000 and then $500 in shipping, and I sold it for $8,000. Okay, so that's a pretty bad loss, but it could have been worse.
    36:33
    For a game like that, when you're putting $9,000 down, if it truly tanks, the loss could be a lot worse. I remember what Dean said Godzilla power-ups do, but it's failing. Yeah, he told us, but I forgot too.
    36:52
    All right. That is you. Oh, that's right. It auto-fills. Yeah, it auto-fills. Okay. You forgot to log in, so. Oh, no! I mean, I didn't accomplish anything, so. So, okay, you're keeping your Godzilla average up. Yeah. Now, what's interesting is Matt Adams, who is on the stream here, I am trading temporarily Godzilla LE for to get his LE Iron Maiden. Ooh. Which is fun, because I played a lot of Iron Maiden, and I never made it to the end mode, but that was two and a half or three years ago. Which one?
    37:29
    Neither. Not Run to the Hills, nor the whatever. If you do it right, you should get Run to the Hills the same time you get Number of the Beasts. Or, like, if you're at Number of the Beasts... It's just not easy, of course, but the more you play Iron Maiden, the easier getting Run to the Hills becomes in your mind. Because I remember when it was first announced what it was and how hard it was, people were like, oh, it's impossible. But the more you play that game, the more realistic it becomes. Right. Nice. That's going to tilt. Oh, I got away with it. I've only ever seen a double, and I've moved this game a lot.
    38:10
    You know why? Because of the ear thingy. The earplug, yeah. Yeah, the earplug. And, you know, really, that move, that was a big move, but was it really a tilt move, you know?
    38:23
    Was it just a slide save? And you can make it so it tilts a slide save. Because that was very close. Yeah, test bishop, the debounce. You know what? Iron Maiden is a wonderful game to own, and you will get so much better at two-staging, controlling multi-balls, and working on your points per minute. That's what matters in pinball. for a tournament. PPM. Plus, yeah, it's all about keep that PPM up.
    38:52
    Bumper Nugget, welcome to the stream. Just got done leveling a row of games at Pinball Jones. Ooh, for a league that starts tomorrow.
    39:00
    That was the worst possible time I could have dreamed. Like, actually the worst. I'm sorry. I blame you for distracting me. I will try to distract you even more in the future.
    39:12
    I don't know if you know this, but you're amazing at being like, George, big shot. Don't miss. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Putting the pressure on. Well, let's start connecting at a PPM comp. That would be awesome. Oh, my gosh. And they could do it in a way where it's, like, not running during scoop or when you're not flipping ball in shooter lane or something. I would love to see not a scoreboard of, like, highest scores ever. I want to see the scoreboard of highest PPM ever. Because I think that's a better tell. Because, like, oh, wow, someone got $380 billion on Godzilla. You're so good. You know? Yeah, but somebody got $5 billion in two minutes. But someone got, you know, no, it's like their whole game. They averaged, you know, pretty good. I feel like that would be a good way of telling. You had, like, a truly consistent good game.
    40:00
    All right. On the fly left ramp. Totally. And now one shot to Kaiju. You mentioned it, so I had to say it. Yeah, yeah, no. Don't miss.
    40:15
    come on obviously we're going to go left ramp again that's actually a really good point it is a personal measure and not a universal one I agree with you it was actually so your drain there was a lot better than my drain because I was in a mode with my jet fighters running with my multiball ready so I lost all there's value but you haven't used your value yet ok I like that I like that. That is how we're going to phrase those losses in the future. It's because I lost. If I stay in Tokyo, I should go back to my battle, right? Yes, you should. Okay. That's good to know.
    40:58
    It was like that at .85, by the way, because I was able to do that last night before upgrading. Okay. Maybe I'm just delusional.
    41:12
    Sexy, welcome to the stream. and I did play my last odds turn insider said the last game was 23 days ago uh insanity falls asks maybe I don't know if you already answered this but why does minutes matter as a metric if you control the flow of the game um because I'm guessing if I can take a stab at that yeah go for it if points per minute uh automatically were to stop the timer like when you're running and you take a break and it stops to let you know how much time you spend actually running that to me would be a good then gauge and that's how I'd measure it. If you trap up for a minute and a half, that shouldn't count against you. Yeah, exactly.
    41:49
    It's just how efficient you're being with each shot that you're making. Are you thinking through and building your multipliers and finishing things off without misses, without wasting shots and doing something that wasn't there? To me, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't think it would be that official. The main thing that PPM is a good way of measuring is, like, for example,
    42:11
    well, so, like, with pinball, right, especially at the higher levels. Ooh, is that a better way to say it? Points per switch? That's not bad, actually.
    42:20
    Yeah, Dr. Charlie said. I feel like there might be major flaws to that, but I can't think of them immediately, so I agree that that might be a good idea.
    42:30
    I'd have to see it in motion. People Peaches, I got your note. Thank you. So, yeah, people in tournaments, right? Games are set up very hard. to the point that sometimes you can do everything right and you will still lose the ball just because that's just the nature of the game. Right.
    42:54
    And when you have good PPM, right, you are basically guaranteeing that your guaranteed short time that you have to play, you are using it more efficiently than your opponent. And that's like competitive pinball right there. That's the thing.
    43:14
    I like Dr. Curlytech's points per major switch, right? Because you wouldn't want to lose value if you're in the pops and it just is stuck in there. Yeah.
    43:23
    I feel like you could very much level it, but see, the more you get into it of giving exceptions, the less beautiful and perfect it is. If that makes sense. there's like a good level to it though the and so Flipstream says I think points per game should be the only thing that counts in tournaments and that is but it was to judge how good a player is I think was what Escher was saying rather than just using who won but who's the better pinball player yeah and you think that is just a metric obviously that's not the end all be all but Yeah, so basically what he's trying to say is that some people are terrible at pinball. And here's a list of all their names, and you should go and post it. Oh, my God. I'm like, where are you going with this?
    44:18
    I'm like, okay, he's going to bring it back around. I did it again. Why did it happen twice in a row, and I've never done it before? I got all my allies. I guess your scoop just, like, no. So it's just, like, in very specific scenarios, it's, like, the story I always remember of like when I realized how important this was is I was in Brisbane playing in a tournament and my opponent I was playing Iron Maiden and I played one trooper and one mummy with my modes and I was at 490 million I didn't even get to cyborg my opponent played two troopers and four mummies and a cyborg and they had half of my score and I'm like, damn.
    45:04
    Maybe like the efficiency seems like it's kind of like the king, you know? Because if they were efficient with one multiball they could be ahead of me. But it wasn't like they were having bad multiballs it was that they weren't playing them correctly. Right, right. And once you add the efficiency, you're including knowledge of the game into your rating scale which is, I flip stream it's still It's still not sold on this concept.
    45:34
    Asher's dad says, PPM is awesome because when you beat someone by 4x-ing their score and half the time they play, you break the spirit.
    45:45
    That is true. So I was playing with three balls, and one of them just kind of disappeared, and I don't actually know where it went. I've had to pull the glass off once because the ball got stuck in there I'm trying to crinkle up but I keep hitting shots maybe the ball drained and I wasn't paying attention I'm just going to get my value you do you I'll see if I can find the ball there's a couple places where I've had balls get handed out it's somewhere up top also it's gotten stuck on top of the upper playfield like air ball yeah I don't see it All right, someone clip it and tell us where it is. Oh, I see it. Oh, where is it? It's behind the building. I'll get it out. Okay.
    46:34
    I'll do it now, whatever. There it goes. Oh, it didn't give me... It's actually better it didn't give it to me. It's not really ready for it yet.
    46:43
    I need to hit my... No! Only 52 instead of 240. Flipstream, what you're getting at is who wins, and it's a different gauge. It's not who wins, it's who... Oh, yeah. The better player.
    46:57
    I've had a lot of times where I've played for, like, a fifth of their time and just barely lost, right? They still, you know, beat me because they kept the ball alive longer.
    47:07
    Which is yet another gauge that you're essentially removing. Yeah. Right? So the points per minute takes away. It gives you a benefit for understanding the rules, but it does take away, let's say, recovery. Yes. well I mean yes and no there's so much to it right right right but the most simplest way is that this person is applying their shots better than the other person yes which doesn't mean they're hitting more shots or the ball is dragging less or any of this it just means that their application of every shot they're making which to me is once again it's focusing on rules the knowledge and wisdom as opposed to, like, dexterity and reflexes.
    47:54
    No, it works! Which is obviously still required, but you're putting a bonus. Do I go for the doubler, or do I just... I'm going for the doubler.
    48:04
    Oh, no. Make it! Thank you. Wow, 230. It would have been funny if I got the doubler and it was 460, right? Or 470-something.
    48:15
    So. Make sure you have the tech to tell you all your stats, like, failed live catch at the virus. Yeah, exactly. It was like a rhythm game.
    48:24
    It'd be... Oh, man. Speaking of rhythm games, oh, we haven't even broached that subject yet. It's a ridiculously cool rhythm game. It's called Sound Voltex. And I'm a little worried about the fact that it's so difficult to play, like, and get installed, and the fact that it's only in Japanese and apparently there's no translations to use. Oh, I mean Google Translate, but... Sorry, the way you described it earlier, you literally had to basically hit all the buttons and figure out what they do. Oh, yeah, I mean...
    49:00
    But it is gorgeous, super fun, and this controller that Escher has is wicked. I can't think of another way to describe it. It's kind of like Think Guitar Hero, but on steroids. but steroids doesn't quite cover it. It's some other awful crap. You can go run downstairs and grab it if you want to show it. Oh, yes, I can. Can I just unplug it without causing any issues? Yeah, just unplug it.
    49:26
    I'll go grab it. Sounds like I get better at it. I have a local arcade. Well, there's only one local arcade that has sound vortexes, in America at least, which is round one.
    49:41
    There's a lot in California, I think. They have like three. We have one way out in the middle of nowhere in Denver that I drive about once every two weeks.
    49:54
    What are you playing soundvoltaics on? I bought a controller from, I think it's called Gamma 2, I believe is what it's called. It says on it somewhere.
    50:03
    It was very expensive. But I had played it enough that I was confident that I would use it enough to make it worth the purchase. so then I bought it and I've been playing a decent amount last month-ish.
    50:17
    If you guys, sorry, not if, when you all see Escher play this game and you're like, you've been playing it a decent amount, if it is anything other than 100 hours at a minimum at this point, I'm going to be severely disappointed in my abilities as a human.
    50:34
    Because it's insane. I can't... I want you to stream this so bad. I might. It's just fun to actually watch somebody move this game around as quickly as Etcher does. No, I'm kidding. It was a joke. Dr. Curly Tech, this is a PC.
    50:56
    Sort of. I think, as you described it, this is an emulated... It's essentially just emulated from the cabinet, but it is official. It is from... Oh, why did I do that? Yeah, it's official from Konami. Hit the chat button.
    51:13
    Chat. That? Yeah. So check this thing out. All right. So the graphics on it are insane. But these buttons here represent basically like I'm Guitar Hero strumming a guitar at any particular point. Then there's orange bars that you get and you hold by pressing these buttons here. And then at any point, things get really crazy, and there's this line that goes all over the place and these are the twisty knobs that you do here, right? And you have to play, it's like playing piano. Sorry, what's the average beats per minute on a lot of these songs? It's about 180. Okay, cool. So 180 beats per minute. The one game, it was 777? Yeah, there's a couple that are funny, like 222, 777, and then like all these other ones. Are you saying in the groove the game, I'm sorry, In the Groove the game or The Phrase? There's a game called In the Groove. Oh, got it. Which is, if I remember correctly, is DDR but way harder. I'm going to go put this back downstairs. All right. Oh, sorry, you're still on chat. Oh, yeah. Oops, sorry. Sorry, chat. There we go.
    52:31
    Yeah. I've seen, like, GDQ, he gets crazy. Yeah, no, it's, they're really cool. I don't know I haven't been able to travel for pinball tournaments as much so I was looking for another out basically of something to play and I was always interested in rhythm games I had to play online ones like the regular ones they're not very I guess they're cool but they're not like they're not it's just there's something missing uh oh not so we're good we lost the DMD here That's not good.
    53:08
    How? It usually went down for a couple seconds and came back, right? Right. Was the Thet Mania's crew attempt to make an arcade cabinet. Konami kind of came down hard on them. Wow. Konami's never done that before, right, guys? Konami would never DMCA strike someone for... Never mind.
    53:30
    You know, I've been playing rhythm games for about a year. Like, I started with the online game Osu! Which is fine.
    53:40
    I'm not any good at it. You can look at my profile. If you play it yourself, you can add me. Oh, good. We got it. But I played that for a while, and then I was like, I want to move on. And then I went to round one, and then, yeah. But I see you do. I should definitely do that. I'm sorry, the screen bar's music was playing in my ears really loud. Sorry, you were saying.
    54:14
    Konami, uh, sucks. Tell us what you really did. We lost the D&D again. They make great games. What is going on?
    54:29
    Alright. It says Godzilla in multiball. Yeah. Stepmania back in the day. Yeah, I was playing Stepmania on my computer when I had a DDR pad for a while.
    54:43
    I had a DDR in my house as much as my parents did not like me. Because I'm right above the kitchen. And if you've ever played DDR before and not on ground floor. It's loud, really. It's really loud.
    55:00
    Dexy is asking the question that you were so adamant about earlier when you got here about the rate of the monitor used to play the game. Oh, yeah. So, I don't know. Some people, like, really are really passionate about saying that, like, hertz, like, getting 120 hertz versus 144 hertz versus, like, that matters a ton. I think so. Like, being able to see FPS better is nice. It makes me a little nauseous.
    55:34
    Right. So, we were playing it on your laptop. On my laptop. Which is 60. Ah. 60's plenty, right? Well, that's the thing. Like, I, of course, always want to, I like high quality. So I'd like to see it at 120. But at no point did it look bad. Like, it was a pretty game.
    55:56
    Higher peanuts. Stop playing Stepmania because they lived upstairs. Yeah. No, I gave mine away to one of my friends. Oh, same with Captain Span. Big shot. Damn.
    56:07
    Oh, okay. So the ghosting is there. That's interesting. Yeah. So, yeah, that's the thing. What if I could blame my awful playing on Sound Voltex on the ghosting? So, your ghosting is usually when you play on... So, what a lot of the pros play on, or, like, the really good players, their speed is, like, 8, right?
    56:26
    Your speed that I put you on was, like, 2.2? Yes. So, like, an eighth of that. Okay. So, I don't think there was that bad of ghosting going on, but maybe your eyes... It's so significant. Obviously, it would cause me so many problems. no even at 2.4 honestly i probably could have had it drop down a little bit more like well you were going early you could i think you could handle a little faster not a common problem fyi but i i never got into virtual pinball um mostly because i had access to a lot of regular like real games i guess at my house my whole life which you know a lot of people don't have access to, of course.
    57:12
    So, but I think virtual pinball is a great way of people getting into pinball. Yeah, no, no, no, that definitely makes it easier, right? Rather than you spend nothing. And you play all the free games as opposed to dumping seven or eight thousand dollars now on a pro.
    57:27
    It's getting expensive. It is getting really, really expensive. Oh my god, I love that that is going up and down so much more often. It really, it sucks that you can't loop it forever, but it's better. Oh, yeah. No, I think getting 14 billion in one mode is stupid. It's only going to be... Aw, why'd you do that, game?
    57:48
    Ghosting only comes into play at high scroll speed. Personally, can't read fast scrolling that well, so that's not much of an issue, at least. Yep.
    57:58
    So, like, at home, the game I was showing you, the keyboard game. Right. Ooh, I got a new ally from the... Oh! That was mean. I saw you think about it. You were... Oh, yeah. Then I remember I was on double danger and then I was like, not worth it. Ah, Wonka. Willy Wonka wants to know if you've played much TMNT.
    58:22
    Yeah, I've played a lot for a week. So, I got contacted by Stern a long time ago and they're like, hey, we're setting up this tournament, right? That was awesome. Wow! That was great. They're like, hey, we're setting up this tournament. It's like the Heads Up Championships, but it's online. And because you took, I think, third? Yeah, third at the last one before COVID.
    58:50
    We invited you to play. I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll do it. We rented one from Donovan. So we had one for a while at our house. So I practiced all the challenges. I played it, I don't know, probably like 10. Ten real games like all the way through. We had it set on factory so It kind of played forever because it like never drains down the right alley in that game It's just that no shots like feed it But uh, yeah, it's fine. I've heard bad things about the premium But I haven't actually ever played the premiums though. Well, I played it once but It didn't count
    59:31
    So I don't think I have enough of enough game time on it to have a good opinion I don't know, I played it once at Expo against Dalton and it went really well.
    59:42
    Give a tap pass. Yeah. And my match against Dalton was a hard one. He put up a fight on both games. I think game one was Godzilla. I think I got, I had a really good game. I think I had like 1.8 bills against him.
    60:02
    And I think he got, I think it was 600. which 600 on that was like top 5 qualifying score so darn it did you didn't see that you did not see that it's ok it was by accident and it moved in a funny way I can't blame you for it and you were concentrating on other things so um well and it was a shot at the pop-up for not to scoop and then it like the process time you didn't realize and that's ok did you get Emily hooked on Etia to buy her own controller not quite she got pretty good at it like pretty quickly. Like she was playing eights and nines which is pretty hard actually. That's like getting to the point where you have to do like the knock and the button at the same time.
    60:48
    Which is probably the hardest part of the game. So. Yeah. She had a lot of time to play Sound Vortex because I took her to round one for like a couple hours.
    61:00
    But the one that she liked the most was It's Groove Coaster, I think is what it's called. A deep coaster, something like that. It was on the Switch. So she got it on the Switch for like Now do you think she going to get into League of Legends if Arcane grabs her No I think she tried before I think she would get into games to play with me more than anything Just because she's not a huge PC gamer. She likes, you know, Switch games a lot. That was way overdone right there. I mean, you didn't get a danger, so it wasn't overdone. It worked.
    61:35
    Oh, crap. I need one more shot. Yeah, well, this is the easy shot. Oh, nice. Sorry, my reflex speeds are actually not that good. Well, I mean, they're above average. I think I'm on the 80th percentile. It's like, I don't even know what the number was on human benchmark, but it's not as high as a lot of people think my reflexes are. Okay.
    61:59
    I feel like you've just... Reflexes? You and your dad know the games really well. You obviously play very, very well, but you also know how to play. I have missed a shot the same way every single time, almost possible, right? So, like, when I miss a shot, I'm ready for it. Like, I know what's going to happen. Not that good in your top 80%. Well, to be fair, if you go to human benchmark, I would say most people in this chat would be in the top 50 to 100, or, like, the highest percentile of human benchmark. Because it's like, yeah, at least in a reaction. It's like, you know, like, keyboard typing percentiles? yes how fast do you type 80 words per minute nice so that's the top 90 percent percentile okay which is like really high but it doesn't feel like it right if that makes sense you know well my typing class in high school I had to learn to the only way to pass the class was to type the alphabet in less than 7 seconds that's hard it actually surprisingly when you spend 3 months practicing oh yeah I bet if you're practicing just for that you could do it. Well, I mean, we also were learning how to type at the time. Yeah, they put the little sheet on so you can't look at the letters. Yep. I have friends that have, they're all these keyboard guys. They have their huge caps that don't even have the letters on it. They're so confident. Like, yeah, I get it, dude. You type 120 words per minute. I don't care. I can do 92 on a good day and that's what matters. I'm proud of it.
    63:32
    Cool. I could build a house right now with all these bricks. It's okay. You got balls too. I hope to make a sound vortex control after I have a bit more space for that a major project is making a proper fighting game controller nice see how you get semi-circles on the fighting game keyboard yeah I found a cab for sound vortex I was thinking I got the go-aheads from Lions Ryan Langer who I worked for, I asked him, I'm like, if I get a cab for a rhythm game, would you allow me to operate it? And he's like, yeah, sure, if it fits. Like, if you can just watch for it and pitch it to me, I'll let you do it. So I found one in California, North California, for a decent price. It was a SoundVoltex 3, which is not the one that you were playing of course.
    64:32
    But it was a good enough price that I was like, man, do I go to Indus and cancel my flight on the way home and pick it up? But it's tempting, but at the same time, it's like, I want to pay off my car.
    64:47
    You know? Well, I'm paying off to my dad, so it's not like a loan, right? It's free. I have to do it now. It's more of like, eventually.
    64:57
    Three? I'll take it. Four? One more. Oh. Five is the light ally. Ah. Can I drive a stick? Uh, kind of.
    65:08
    Ooh, I got another kaiju battle? If I've... Oh, I didn't finish it. Uh, you hit everything but the final shot. This should be your level two, right?
    65:18
    Um. I've driven a lot of, like, ATVs. So they don't have a choke. But, like, I know how to shift and, like, win. Busted? Yeah, no, dad, in Australia, when I was with the cousins, I drove the fully stick ATV.
    65:40
    And if I was refreshed, or clutch, yeah, I don't know, clutch. I'm sorry. No, no, I don't know what to go for right now. I'll hit your scoot. Yeah, hit your scoot. Okay.
    65:52
    I know. I've screwed myself over by calling it choking on a clutch. Yeah, when I was in Australia, I was taught, but I feel like if I got refreshed, I could... I don't think I... Nope. You didn't go for the second? No, I didn't know where I was at. Yeah, choke, yeah, it was a big handjob mistake. I could probably if you taught me. I could pick it up quickly. That's what I'm going to go with.
    66:17
    Man, controlling cards. Yeah, I know, because on the choke, I have to use the choke on the ATV that we have at my parents' house. because, uh... Wow. Yes, I meant to do that. Totally. Yep. All part of the plan.
    66:32
    All right, you're going to have to pardon my reach here again. That's okay. We're moving the pinball machine just a hair.
    66:39
    Nice. He's driving non-fuel-injected vehicles. I'm not a nerd. What? I'm not a car nerd, at least. I'm a regular nerd, not a car nerd. There we go. Okay, I can completely understand that. Hello.
    66:53
    My car is from, I don't know the name of my car. I know what year it's from. Subaru. But, you know. One of my best friends, I have known her now since I was 16, is the one who taught me to drive stick when I was 17.
    67:12
    And that's almost like a bike friendship. Is it like a bike where, like, you do it once and it sticks around? Yes. Or do you need to, okay. Nope, yeah. And it worked, and on top of that, I really didn't have to learn anything significantly new to learn to ride a motorcycle. Yeah.
    67:30
    So you're ready to give me one of those Hydro Flask? Hey, I have a Hydro Flask, but it's my dad's, not mine. I have two Hydro Flask.
    67:38
    I mean, you have two? I have two. My friend lost his Hydro Flask in the Uber to Finberg. So, yeah, the reason I have two is because I thought I lost it, but then I found it. But in that... It's expensive, man. Oh, yeah. You gotta double check that level. Uh-oh. Nice save. It's like this multi-ball is not worth taking a danger or using my add-a-ball for, but...
    68:08
    Okay. We have a shortfall, says Flipstream. Yeah. Flipstream is in the Pacific Northwest for some reason. I see that it's fitting. you know you like drink LaCroix's that's the other thing I have never gotten into LaCroix like there's just not enough it's like just enough flavor to be irritating I get that nice my parents oh wait was that not the add a ball yeah that was the super jackpot that was a different multi ball the Subaru must not be a full stick just half choke very clutch no it's not It's not a stick. It's not... I don't know if he meant that. I think that was a big joke. Oh, okay. I get it. Half joke, very clutch. I get it now.
    69:00
    Eat more for tank, really? What's my bridge damage at? Oh my god, are you a two billion right now? I guess. I'm almost at Planet X. I'm very close. Okay, so explain how we get to Planet X. I need to beat all of the guys. All of the guys? Yes. Wait, all the level 2 guys or just all the level 1 guys? But once you beat all the level 1 guys, then the level 2 guys are out. Sorry, isn't that 7 people then that you have to beat?
    69:27
    Well, you don't have to beat the level 2. You just have to play them. Oh, okay. There's like point opportunities. Okay, so it's actually kind of like Deadpool's...
    69:38
    No, you have to beat those. Not similar at all. Well, it's like the super mode. Rodan, not Rodan. That's from this game. What's the green guy called? when you beat the first three the first time? Wait. That multiball?
    69:52
    I have no idea. On Deadpool. You know, like when you beat... Oh, sorry, on Deadpool. I thought you meant on this. Oh, no, Sauron. Yeah. It's like Sauron, right? You don't have to beat... You don't have to get a super in Sauron. You just got to play it. Yep. And it's not like you... It's not like the multiball is worth anything either.
    70:08
    Sauron is the biggest joke of that game. It's always been like five... It's like two million a shot or something. You know, what stinks is that an issue, obviously, with Deadpool is just that there's not, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of depth there in the rules compared to other games, which is a little frustrating. The problem to me is that they had licensing to do like another four or five bad guys. They just didn't bother? And they just didn't do it. They got everything set to go for like seven or eight bad guys and pulled it back. I bet I know why. because that game was the expo game oh they rushed it to get it out and just called it good yeah well it's not even rushed it's just like they have like a deadline that it's like Batman 66 and Lime and Rest in Peace right yeah um it was like Batman 66 was coming out and you know he was working on it and it's like man you know they told him a little bit too late and it's like you gotta do this So that's where it was at. And, you know, the code was pretty disappointing when it came out, and then it turned into one of the most deep, interesting rule sets ever. Right. So I've got to wonder, then, if they still own the licensing there, and if that becomes some sort of an add-on at some point. Oh, for Deadpool? Yeah. Yeah, they're probably done with Deadpool.
    71:39
    I'd have to think. it's too bad man because Deadpool is selling well and there's obviously a hold for it people are interested but they vaulted it they would sell games yeah but would it sell I don't know what justifies vaulting right because we're not talking about selling 500 games this isn't Jersey Jack or something else Stern when they put a game out I think they what is this Hedera smog monster frenzies what it says switches score points I got a couple extra I don't know word that's a scary dude that is wow oh I'm sorry don't tilt I really need to I have two extras now my fellow Kroy is whiff of water you know I can't tell if you're joking or if they I mean I could agree with that yeah alright so you are now in bridge attack multiball this is the last mode before I don't know how to play this mode my dad was like okay so this apparently according to my dad this mode can be worth a lot yeah your dad says this mode Elwin did three builds on I think I understand how it works is that switches build the shot so then the shot collects the building so you want to hit other shots before hitting the building shot in the middle no I just think that's just the shot.
    73:09
    Oh wait, I haven't had a ball. I forgot. I nearly forgot. Alright, so I just think it runs kind of forever from what I can tell because there's no timer on it that I can see. That sucks. And then it's just like every switch I hit builds the shot value. Okay. But it like runs forever. Oh, I'm dead. Oh, it bounced right away. Nice.
    73:37
    Oh. I saw Mothra. You know when I got Mothra in my first multiball, this game? He's still, or she, isn't it she? Isn't that like canon?
    73:56
    I'm guessing it's a she. I think my dad called Mothra a she. I'm sure someone in chat knows. Including my dad, because that's who I heard it from. GDX says game club central thank you don't want to assume the gender of Mothra I don't know so sorry when you're talking about this mode never ending this is the until you drain I guess sorry is this the bridge attack multiball no this is the I don't know his name okay but it's one of the modes specifically yeah and this is the second level mode no I just started I don't know oh where it came from I'm in trouble sorry so you just like randomly started a mode based on something I assume it was oh Hedora there we go Hedora it's a combo related start okay that makes sense this is a really important shot don't mess it up I can still get it got it wow 125 million on that shot yeah I could have 2x'd it, but I... Okay, I have quite a few extra balls, if I do say so myself. Wow, is that three extra balls right now? Yeah.
    75:14
    Quite a few. Okay, I kind of want to just get to multiball with this scary special new mode. Okay. 10 out of 10 secret combos. Also, your kaiju battle is flashing right now. Yeah, I lost. Oh, got it. I don't know how to play the bottom mode. He kicks my ass every time. Oh. Six of sevens. You need one more shot. Wait, I can choose. That's cool. Is that new? Huh, you can choose between a first or a second. I'm going to pick this guy just because I need to finish him off. I want to play multiball, and I don't think I can stack multiball in with the other one. You need a win. Must make walking difficult with extra balls. Many extra balls.
    75:58
    Yeah. Actually, it's actually easier in pinball. That took me way too long to get. Yeah. How you doing on a drink? What? How are you doing on your drink? I haven't had time to drink in a while, so good. Okay. There's Coke, cream soda, Izzy, Mountain Dew, Canadian Dry, and more water. I love me some water. Oh, nice. You grabbed his hand. Good. Wow. A lot of points for controlling all the cities. All right. We need everyone in here to pray to Keith Elwin. Bless us with a lack of a crash.
    76:40
    Sorry, to bless us with a lack of a what? A crash. Okay. Yeah, no crash. No crashing. But I would like to put the score in.
    76:50
    I'm kind of out of extra balls. That was kind of the thing. So it looks like the shot just moves around every time from what I can tell. because I'm the bottom spinner now. It's up to $4 million a shot, which is not great, but considering it always builds... Your dad is very happy with your choice to drink water over soda.
    77:11
    It's funny. There was a swap in my life. I'm going to try ginger ale by the way, as your dad. Yes. Do they make regular alcohol? Oh! Oh, yeah! I... Matra! You used Matra! In multi-ball when I didn't actually. But it doesn't matter! Matra! Yeah! Well, am I gonna... That was a very good time. I didn't want to use my add-a-ball yet, but it was either use my add-a-ball and... To keep playing or lose the game. I double drained out, so I didn't have a choice really. No, no, no. Oh, that was a surprisingly large one. Wow, a 20 million Hedora jackpot. I don't know why it got bigger. It had a multiplier of sorts. I wonder if it's combo. Do you think if I go right ramp, left ramp, do you think it'll be worth more than 5 million? You have a couple shots that are blue. I'm guessing that's Hedora. No, Hedora's the weird green shot. It's on the left ramp right now. It's like this weird... Oh, it's slightly white. It looks green. Yeah. It's like super light. It's like a... It's that left ramp. Do you see it? Yep. That is weird. I don't... What color is that? Try it.
    78:31
    It's not green, but it's not not green. I don't know. We can call it not green. Well, see, the only problem is there's other... Oh, my God.
    78:43
    Toxic green? It's not quite toxic. I don't think toxic is a really... The regular green is a lot more toxic than this green. George hits the secret plunder extra balls added to Godzilla. Oh, man, this with a plunder capability would be wonderful. Pale green, says Sash. Okay, that's probably accurate. Pale green, yeah. It's not mint green. It's more, I feel like it's more yellow than mint green. Oh, you know what? It could be antique green. That's the real thing? Yes. I know. The majority of my appliances used to be antique greens.
    79:19
    Oh, honeydew. That, that... I'm going with honeydew as the new best color there. Destroy saucer. That's actually good. How many more do I need? Two more? Ooh, saucer attack multiball. Have you seen that one before? It's a good point. I don't think I have seen it. Although, if there was ever an opportunity to tell someone to get saucy, I feel like that's it. That was a dope tail whip. I don't know. I'm looking at the shades of green in Wikipedia and trying to remember the color. Ooh. It says uranium glass green. That's not bad. Uranium is a great color to describe this. It's just not quite perfect.
    80:08
    I still like not green. Not green isn't bad. But then that could be a lot of things, you know? There's a lot of things that aren't green.
    80:21
    Oh. Well, but I don't mean that it's not green and everything that's not green is accurate. Oh, I forgot how hard this mode got nerfed in the ground. I'm just going to flee. I want to play the super mode.
    80:36
    Oh, you're fleeing from Hadouken? No, the level's new. Sorry, what's his name? King Kadora. There, Kadora. I like Hadouken. I feel it. Hadouken. I like that. Oh, that's a huge destruction. Oh my god.
    80:52
    Okay, there's a 300 million destruction. I'm a miss. Oh, I actually hit it. Can I get another one? Or is that it?
    81:01
    Damn. Well, I assume select city is the start. So let's go ahead and do that. Sesh wants to know... Don't crash! Damn, what is this? Is that expo?
    81:12
    Planet X, here we go! Alright, and it crashes. Three, two... New code! Carnage bonus. Yeah, extra... Oh, times two! I don't know why.
    81:27
    Wow, they're stealing Godzilla! Wait. No! Earth bonus. Oh! Oh, interesting. So you get bonuses for each city you completed? Yeah, depending on how well you did, I guess.
    81:44
    Goodbye, Urs. Ha, Hyropina. X gonna give it to ya. Okay, complete power lines, tanks, bridge, arrows to defeat Ghidorah and the Zillions. Oh, the Zillions.
    81:59
    Why are there power lines on their world? Never mind. I love that's the thing you don't like about this situation.
    82:10
    Giant monsters totally fine. the Zalions, which are humanoid for some reason. Not an issue. It's the fact that they have power lines. Like, you expect a little I like, there's this cool audio cause. Like, no, my favorite power line. Don't even destroy power lines.
    82:27
    Okay, I destroyed all the power lines. My coach is a cute center spinner for jackpot. Why is King Ghidorah here? Uh, your dad says ice cream challenge for four bill earth bonus collect. Oh, God.
    82:40
    Four bill? Four bill. I'm not going to take this ball out because I'm a cheater. I'm sorry. Look at that ball stuck position. I see that. That's a great ball. Yeah. Keep it there. Oh, no. Oh, I got to shoot that shot? I don't want to shoot that shot. Never mind. Wait, that's my... I got baited!
    83:09
    Found it. Oh, wow. That wanted you to hit consecutive loops for a bonus? No. That was the green guy. Okay. The not green shot. I thought that was my final shot, but I was baited. Oh, my God. The Hadouken was still active?
    83:27
    No. I think I'm fighting King Ghidorah. That's like the thing. Okay. The mode. You fight him white. Oh, because you ran away. I think I'm fighting all of them, but I think King Ghidorah is like the strongest one. But if you had beaten King Hedorah instead of running away while you're in Planet X... No, you can't. You can't beat him. Oh, you can't. It's a catcher. It's a catcher keep going mode. Got it. I don't like that. What? I just don't like you can fight somebody, but you can never beat him. It's very much... I'm beating him right now. Oh, true. There you go. So you can run away, but you have to come back and beat him here. This multiball is really hard.
    84:03
    KG is from Planet X. He was sent there to kill Godzilla. See, that's what I figured. I got there eventually. Ghidorah. Ghidorah says Game Club Central. I'm sorry.
    84:16
    Ball save. Conveniently timed, too. Be a real one. I would have been really embarrassed if it wasn't a real ball save. Sash questions whether or not a four billion collect is even possible. I'm sure it is. It's Keith Elwin, man. I finally got the billion visitor center bonus.
    84:34
    Oh, my God. A billion point visitor center? Oh, does that mean you have to play all the... Yeah, I played... Yeah, and I had a rescue streak of 34 plus. I think it was 30 rescues, but I had almost every fossil is the reason.
    84:48
    Right. Are each fossil... Is that a multiplier? It's 5 million. Oh, okay. And then it does get multiplied. Yeah, so the multiplier is how many places you visit in. Got it.
    84:58
    Oh, that would have been too sweet. Your dad says 5x carnage bonus on each city should get you there. No, it'll get me. I see you said g'dorable.
    85:10
    Oh, I'm dead. Why? Oh. I thought you were going to walk away. I'm like, why? What happened? Oh, okay. What do I need to hit? Please be something easy. Oh, it's the paw bumper? That was the hetero.
    85:24
    Are you kidding me? It's that shot? No. I'm on double danger. Oh, no, don't kill me. I was kidding. It was a joke. Okay, we're good.
    85:35
    Good game. Oh, that's... Shoot. Oh, shoot. Okay, I should have... That's not it. Big shot. Excellent job. Oh, 100 million super jackpots. Oh, and then I can... And it adds a ball. That's two, three. Oh, wow. Oh, it restarts me. I'm back at square one.
    85:59
    Okay, shoot power line targets. I'm going to call it out. I think I know what I'm doing now. But he gives me something to do. Okay.
    86:09
    Wait, what am I doing? Tell me, quick! Oh, shoot spinner spinner for jackpot! Now what? Now it's shoot green something. Green tokens. Green award.
    86:21
    Tokens? Is that what it says over there? I think it says maybe tanks. Tanks probably makes more sense. Yeah, tanks. I was going to say, it is tanks, but... No, no, no, tokens. It's obviously tokens. I like tokens. It's a token award. Shoot Mazer Target for Super Jackpot. Ball kind of disappeared again. Nice. Tank Super for 30. Oh. Now shoot Bridge Captive Ball. Am I done? Oh, I am. That wasn't bad. That was surprisingly not that many points. Damn, it's a Safecracker callback. I missed it. Oh. Whoo! This is 180, though.
    87:02
    Three, two, one. That's what I was aiming at. Oh. That was a sad attempt at a step, dude. Oh, Hedorah. It was only... It was 251. I can see how that gets insane, though. You've only got, like, three extra balls, so don't worry. I have nothing else to do anymore, though. Mm-hmm. Ooh, so there's Godzilla power.
    87:24
    It's a good bonus now. Because of those bonuses. And now you get multipliers somehow. Ah, what are you token? Lots of bridges. 39 power-ups. That's a lot of power-ups. The point of it is... Okay, you made it to Planet X. Is there anything else? Dad, you know the code better than me.
    87:48
    Yeah, is this a Jurassic Park moment where there's just nothing else? It's crazy how bad my PPM is this game, though. like people have gotten to planet or Carl got to planet X I don't know how the multipliers work for each city I don't know that mechanic yet but once I do I'll be fully powered up fully operational yeah it's kind of crazy there's a lot of super modes still in this game because there's Monsters Zero, King of the Monsters and Terra of Mechagodzilla which You've got tank multiball in the scoop right now.
    88:26
    Yep. I'll go ahead and take that. Shoot tank shots before they reach Godzilla. Oh, I never caught that. I mean, you played this with multiball. Oh, yeah. No, no. I played it. I just never caught that they're moving tank shots before it's Godzilla. Yeah, so the longer you take, the less the super jackpot. So, where is Godzilla? Up at the top left? Like, do they move? There's... No, they're just shots, unfortunately. It's not like... Yeah, I didn't know if it was, like, the Mariner, where it moves from right to left, or the Velociraptor in Jurassic Park. Yeah, it's not. I really like those kind of modes, though, where you have to move them across the play field. There's more information. Oh, Chaotix dropping 100 bits. Thank you so much.
    89:04
    I know, Chaotix. $100. You guys say bits like dollars. Like, people say, like, their subscriptions is years, right? It's like, yo, thanks for the eight years when it's like an eight-month sub. You guys, you gotta say, thanks for the $100. Okay. Maybe people think each bit's a dollar. Chaotix, Thank you so much for that $100. $100 don't know. Yeah. Appreciate it. Don't know. Oh, my God. I don't know the lingo. Man, you're not even a... You're a poser. You're not even a Twitch streamer. I am not. Apparently, I don't... Evidently. Sorry. Game Club Central throwing down $100. Thank you so much. Another $100.
    89:41
    Have to destroy the tank before they get to Zilla or it drops the JP multiplier. Nice. Yeah. there's a channel I follow where people are up to a hundred month subs and we've been calling that the one year okay there's only a few channels the only one I know of is Lyric I know is at that point
    90:06
    just been around for that long yeah I remember because Lyric says if you ever get to that if you get to that he will like refund whatever you paid so because it costs $500 to get there he'll just give you $500 back so that was actually the best tank multiball I've ever played by a large margin yeah sorry what did you end up scoring on it I don't know a couple hundred well there was no out of all either I'm imagining your multiplier on destruction jackpot caps at 6 because there's only 5 cities or something yeah I assume so, but I'm curious to see.
    90:51
    Right, if there's like a reason to keep playing because the multiplier continues to go up. So here we go. Nope, times six again.
    90:58
    It's just getting bigger. No biggie. 240 million at that point is just water under or over the bridge, right? Oh.
    91:06
    Should have bumped over there. Wow, that gave it to me. That is hilarious. I'm going to do it. I'm going to play my first Mechagodzilla multiball the entire game. Nice nudge. I don't think I needed that nudge, but I'll take it.
    91:26
    Okay, so I'm just kind of playing pinball right now. Wait, I got another destruction. Oh, what's that next?
    91:33
    Don't mind if I do. Whoa! We just hit a 7. What just happened? It's not an Earth City. Yeah, true, but it's still a city, right?
    91:43
    I've gotten worse. That was obviously on purpose. Yeah that was aw that wasn on purpose Man I suck The one time you probably didn want to make that left ramp shot and have it jump back down I died of course shooting for Mechagodzilla. Hey, five billion. Oh, train destruction gave plus one to the destruction jackpot. Okay. Good to know. Was that a tap pass? Yeah. Was that a tap pass? Yeah. What was that? I had Ball Stair. I might as well get a little fancy. That was super fancy.
    92:27
    Yeah, Mechagodzilla multi-ball. I had my first Mechagodzilla after playing Planet X. There you go. Flipstream, I like that. It was a slap pass. Yeah, that. Yeah. It's not very useful. but it looks really cool.
    92:47
    Flat passes per minute. Yeah, because the Stern slippers are so... Valley Williams slippers, you can tap pass on. Oh, game crashed.
    92:57
    Yeah. Oh! Bummer. No, because you're not going to get to record the score. Nope. Rest in peace. I wonder what I did. everything? Yeah, of course. It was Mega Godzilla. Too much power. I mean, that's what we get for playing beta code. To be fair, I have crashed more times on regular code in tournaments than the beta code so far. Okay. So. That's honestly, I mean, you're playing beta code and you're also hitting situations that they just haven't accounted for. Right? Like, they just put Planet X in. so that I don't know that's okay for whatever reason that doesn't bother me that bothers me a little bit because if you lost your 4 or 5 no I don't care about that it's more of like this is the there is going to be an LE Godzilla in disc and the problem with Stern Crashes is that you don't get to see what score like when it reloads it's going to show our last game and not this game oh our last successful game that ended our last game that ended successfully that like got to the end, right? So it'll be like, what, like 1.5 billion? Oh, now. Because it was zero. Wow. Flip screen saying, so watching Escher literally blow up the game, I feel like that's one of those instances where you say literally but mean figuratively, but now it's in the dictionary. But now it's literally, yeah. Yeah, so, you know, well done. Great area. Up the Game is making it really hard to try and play Godzilla for progress at home now, right? Yes. Any game that Escher has played at my house, there's an unobtainable GC, basically. Maybe the Tron one's pretty doable. Yeah, Tron's not too bad. He's got to do what I did to Portal and then hit some more combos. Zexi, I have never figured out how to set a marker. Let's do that. Like, maybe marker? Hey, look at that. Wow. That's so cool. I did not know. Intuitive.
    94:58
    I've never seen slash marker before, but I know exactly what it does, and I think that's awesome. No, that's good. Oh, my God. I'm going to be using that all the time. In fact, I need to pre-program slash marker space clip and have it over there. So that way I can add things like I want to go back and clip that. You can also make it so your mods can do it, I think, maybe. Just get mods so you can just ask them. Zekty, you're amazing. Thank you. So it's 11.38. Do you even want to play Godzilla ever again at this point? No, but now there's all these multiplier rules that I don't know at all. because again Carl played this got to X but he was at 10 billion he was at 4 billion and my dad said Keith in that the green mode, not green mode got 5 bills in it so there is lots to do still on optimization do one handed games what's a good thing that we can do make a speedrun category really quick Oh, okay. I like that. What do you want to speedrun? That's a good... Every multiball.
    96:14
    Play every multiball. No, that's a lot of tilting out intentionally. That's boring.
    96:22
    I... I'm deferring to you on this one. Complete Gigan. That's not bad. It's just that Complete Gigan on the LE is so much easier than Endergloom and Pro. Let's do that. All right, which mode does Guy get? The Rams. Oh, got it. Okay. All right. I will set a timer. Let's do that.
    96:43
    Let's do that. I won't bother logging in because there's probably going to be a restart. It's probably going to crash anyways. Well, not crash, but five consecutive loops. Yeah, no thanks. I can't do that in the Yumi.
    96:58
    Honestly, that's not hard to try, though. Plugstream is right. Total Destructive City is pretty good. We could do that. Sorry, how do you achieve a total... You play Power, Tank, Ridge, and Raid Multiply. Oh, in a single city? Yeah. Okay. Let's do that. Done.
    97:16
    All right, I guess I'll go first. Well, hold on. I need a timer. Oh, okay. Nope. You have all these buttons. You don't have a timer? I don't have a timer. I've never needed a timer. I think there's an OBS extension, I believe.
    97:29
    Nope, stopwatch. Oh, right. Yeah, we're just like... puts a thing up. Sorry, we're doing it old school. I am ready when you are. Go ahead. All right. Three, two, one.
    97:43
    I did it! Nice! Well played. Super secret skill shot. 20 million. It doesn't show you what ally you're on, so give me a long throw.
    97:54
    Okay. This is bad for time-wise. So I don't know there's a lot of things I need to do. Alright, so and what are the three different so it's, sorry, what are the three different multiballs you have to do? So it's tank, it's bridge, it's the regular multiball, and then there's power.
    98:21
    Power multiball? Not power multiball, but the power lines. Okay. Okay. So I'm going to get working on power now. You've got to do two sets.
    98:30
    Got to make sure I'm also hitting my bridge, getting... There's a lot of tanks to do. Right. So this is pretty good. Tank, bridge, raid, and power. Got it. Okay.
    98:41
    See the combo. I meant to do that. No way. Okay, that was awesome. I had to go for the second one. Also, I can only do one timer. Yeah, that is true. That is... No, let's just try and do that. Let's just try and get a total destruct. Okay. I'm going to run to the bathroom really quick. Is that... Where is it? It's the end of the hall? yeah sorry that way past the door okay over on your right yeah found it oh hold on wait a second yeah you're microphoned up oh yeah good call there on the microphone there's a mute button on the side or you can just unplug it probably that's true averted yes this one yeah that or just unplug it and leave it here yeah when it's yellow you're good you're good I think he's good just say something really quick no yeah you're good Raid of Kaiju is streaming streaming ha pee quickly it's George playing yeah oh flip stream alright I'm doing this I tried good good start solid start All right, what do we need? We need tank shots. We need the power lines in two sets.
    100:07
    I'm going to go that shot because that works. Cool. very good call George yes Game Club Central I'm pretty happy with that decision to remember that we're wirelessly mic'd up like I said yeah flip stream I did not even start a timer it's not worth it for me we'll just keep track of Escher's time so I don't have my drink it's right here cheers everyone I'm no yeah I'm running the timer right now while he's in the bathroom the longer he's in the bathroom the lower his time is what?
    101:02
    there we go alright lights back on where am I? oh no let's figure it out after I finish I don't think I need all that but Okay, so now I'm kind of all in Because I'm in power line Okay The question is Do I actually need to beat this? I don't think I do Maybe I have to start the The other part of it I bet that's what it is I don't really care about modes Do I need modes for this? I don't think It's not Unless you can't start something Until you do a mode I bet I can't get the value Until I swap after I finish see if you can flush the way yes okay so I wasn't so it looks like regular skill shots are back on for locks which is good now the real question is the correct type of ball save back because before it was I forgot the names there's two types of ball saves or three types I don't even remember what they all do sorry Why are you going for a mode then?
    102:18
    So I can then swap after I come out, I guess. Okay. I think. Probably should have picked a different mode.
    102:30
    I'm doing this out of instinct. I'm going to bump over so I can shoot tanks. It's kind of hard to do a speedrun when I don't actually know what I'm doing myself. I should probably restart the timer. Maybe. I don't know why the bridge broke there. I was kind of, kind of rude. I kind of wanted the in lane. It did not give me an in lane. Oh, did it drop you out? Oh, mode lights raid, so you don't even need the regular multivolt. I see. I was wondering that actually and so I've been giving people bad information for that long you know what I'm picking Mothra just to get I'm picking Mothra that was a useful time for Mothra to save me that was a great time for Mothra to save Dirty Toads welcome to the stream ooh how do you like the game George Dirty Toads this is a great game I like it it's beautiful it plays really really well Um Master has shown us how to play every part of this game Wait I can't do that I need to not swap cities And uh Innervicar welcome to the stream Oh that's right Mode lights raid Would titanosaurus be better for this since you hit power line shots Oh Yeah that's what I was thinking too I realized that a little bit too late unfortunately Is it bolted Nothing is technically bolted Right but this one actually I already traded it but temporarily so another collector locally here that I've traded games with before has got an Ellie an Ellie Iron Maiden and I don't think I've ever played a premium or Ellie well you know I've played the premium once or twice before because I own one but I don't think I don't know if I've ever played it. I guess the one at Lions was an LE.
    104:39
    I'm trying to think. Have I ever played an actual LE? It's interesting. I don't like the look. You have an edible. I know. You get your maximum time if you wait. It takes so long. You know? Okay. You get that extra three or four seconds. It's not three or four seconds. It's a couple seconds, though. I'm just really happy with myself that I noticed that you had an edible. Yeah.
    105:05
    It's pinball. Green means good. Yes. Green means multiball. It's beautiful and plays really well, and I have already traded it. Yes, Dirty Toes.
    105:23
    It's, I don't know. I just like to keep it new. I really like this game. It's a lot of fun. Is it a temporary trade, or is it a tournament? No, no, no. Total 10. Two or three months. Oh, God, yeah. So that's a good trade, then. because the code isn't quite finished on this yet.
    105:41
    And it gets me Iron Maiden for a little bit. That's true. Vertzilla, welcome to the stream. Nothing is bolted. Haven't you learned? Exactly.
    105:51
    Vertzilla. Wow, Major Cannon started Hedera. That is crazy. Sorry, did you just start Hedera? Yeah, it started on Major Cannon random. So we need to get Vertzilla back over here. Ty, Escher brought over Sound Voltex. And oh my god, what a great game. Oh, is Vertzilla that time? Yeah. Nice. Yeah, man. I got him on the Sound Voltex.
    106:29
    It's hard. It's really, really hard. Yes. Oh boy, yeah, very cool game. To start Hedorah you need two secret combos, then the Mazer target. Oh, okay, so it wasn't random, because I know I had two secrets. Man, I was a chat passing. I saw that. Crazy. People see that and think it's actually something you should do. It's not. You shouldn't learn how to chat pass. It is useless. Okay, I got bridge. Now I have to beat power? That's hard. Oh, you have to beat it? Maybe it's when it ends. If I drain, maybe it'll end. Okay.
    107:20
    17 million. That's okay. I can finish it in this multiball. I wonder if this is better value than playing it normally. I'm curious to see how good this is. With, sorry, bringing us in with Hedora? No, just like playing for perfect cities rather than playing to get to the next city. Oh, got it.
    107:40
    It's definitely worth more in the long run, but this game is already, well, before I said that there wasn't a lot of extra balls, but now it seems like it's a little bit better. Wait, do you have to do it again for the next city?
    107:53
    Um, ooh, so my annihilation bonus is pretty big. I don't have to do all of this again it's crazy I'm getting crazy deja vu from you asking the exact same question but from slightly different but like the same question you know okay like when I was first like I was first explaining the game to you like when I first came over I'm getting deja vu from then where you're like oh do you have to beat all four things to progress cities you don't have to I don't think what do I need to hit wait no no sorry To get a total city destruction, do you have to play each of those modes in each city? Yeah, I think so. I don't think it gets harder, though. I can't imagine it gets that much harder.
    108:39
    Oh, I thought that was a dream. Yeah, I also thought that was going to dream. Okay, I need you to drop the ball. Okay. Clipstream confirmed. Each city has a set of four. Got it.
    108:51
    IceKidoo says, was it the same cat? Chaotix, also quoting Matrix. Not like this. Ah, how are all the balls still here?
    109:01
    It's the real question. Flipstream, it does get harder every time. Okay, don't listen to me then. I don't know anything.
    109:11
    I know some things. You know, I do like the Godzilla song that plays during this multi-ball, but it is refreshing to not hear it, unfortunately. Such as it pains me to say.
    109:27
    I'm sure some people won't be happy with that. You're not a fan of, was it Blue Oyster Cult? It's not that I'm not a fan of it. It just gets old. Okay. Because you play this multiball in this game a lot. Right.
    109:43
    Okay, so I should have everything done, right? Yes, they are all flashing right now in the playfield. Well, yeah. Okay, so yeah, it's 3x now.
    110:01
    Is that the... Is the center shot the total destruction bonus then? I don't actually know what is giving me the destruction bonus. I think it's the tank. It is the tank. That's what it is.
    110:16
    Uh-oh. I think the tank goes away... That, like, bonus goes away if I drain, so I've got to be careful. Okay, so now I should swap my cities, yeah?
    110:25
    And that's how you get... There's the Godzilla multiball. I don't really care. Select city. Yeah. Oh, wait, but your center shot is... Oh, no.
    110:38
    Damn. I got an air ball, though. Right? Yeah. Okay. I got a little bit of catching up to do here. I've already cut you back from sitting in the lead you can't go back to it, I see I mean, a lot of good insight I gotta learn this game, like, thoroughly before Indus, because if you look at the lineup for Indus you can notice that out of all the games revealed the math majority are all three or four times older than I am which is not a good sign for me because I'm good at modern games.
    111:22
    Right. Because even for each city it's the zillion battle. I see. So the game crashing I lost my achievement.
    111:31
    Aw. Oh actually you know what they're not programmed in because it's a beta code. Probably. So I get off my phone. Yeah I know.
    111:44
    But I can't I got this game is going to be very important at in this for me because there's not very many games Yeah, I've already started three or four games in the line up so far. I sure yeah, but there's like six games to be revealed
    111:59
    Like I'm the dirty Harry is great, but it is a prototype dirty Harry Which means it plays a little bit different, which I don't worry about I haven't played dirty Harry in a really long time because mine hasn't been working Yeah, the drop target one. It's pretty cool actually if you've ever seen it. The prototype is pretty hairy. Oh my god, hit that power line. Shot that. Um, see your combo. So now if you shoot mazer cannon, it should start the thing. Um, is Black Rose in there? Yeah. Black Rose. I don't know, everyone plays Black Rose better than me. Like I like Black Rose. Oh my god. I didn't so Dirty Harry the Interstellar Celebrities nice yeah it's annoying I think I just hit a button oh there's no button there's nothing bound to it that's good or Levi's I always say Levy because I'm thinking of New York Levi or Levy when the Levy breaks what's his last name the boom guy sorry the what guy on the streams You know, the guy goes like, boom. Like, that's his thing. People in chat know. I have no idea who you're talking about.
    113:17
    Levy from New York. Okay. So every time I see Levy in chat, or like Levi or Levy, I'm like, oh, it's Levy, because he pronounces it Levy. Wow, Perlman's is a lot.
    113:31
    So it's like 80 million. Yeah, let me name him. Name him. Wow. That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. So, yeah. If I'm going to play a Dirty Harry, I should fix mine. It's annoying because it plays fine, but the thing that's wrong with it is the DMD. There's something up with it. Like, the screen just doesn't. And it's not like a bad connector or anything. There's something else with it, and I haven't looked at it. I blame my dad. That's his job, not mine. I don't live there.
    114:12
    Don't you fix games, though? Yeah, at Lions. And by fix, it's usually really easy things like, hey, this LED's out. Or, you know, this feed isn't good. Or you need to clean the ball trail. You know, it's like very basic things. But when it gets to major issues, we have Randy, if you know him. oh yeah from pinball peak pinball or yeah I've used for everything yeah if it's serious then you get Randy and he will get it done because he knows everything yeah Randy's awesome yeah adjust this leaf switch not that we although he did teach me about leaf switches that's the other thing is I had him he hung back basically and walked me through a bunch of stuff on Flintstones because Flintstones was messed up yeah there's some And Flintstones are usually, not only do they break a lot, they also seem to be abused a lot. Like, a lot of Flintstones I've seen out in the wild have seen some shit. Like, they've been through the works. It's like, you know, Pirates, Stern Pirates of the Caribbean. Yes, they're always beat up. Hey, they're also in Spanish, mostly. What? I don't think I caught that. No, that's not correct. How many, someone in chat fact-checked me on this. I swear I have seen, on location, of people that don't know how pinball machines work, more Spanish Pirates of the Caribbean than regular ones. It's like South Park, exactly. South Park is always beat up. It's like, you can change the language if you hit the flippers together, but it's like harder to turn it back once it's already been turned.
    115:56
    That's not good. That could be insane. And it could be like one of those, like, you know, I saw it once, so I'm looking for it.
    116:07
    It doesn't say. I can make it one though, your raid. Or not raid. Fancy ball. You need four more. One time. You thought about it. No, I don't touch things. Yeah. That's bad. Oh, and we're at 12 o'clock. Perfect timing. Yeah, perfect timing. Escher, thank you for showing us Pundit X. That was awesome It was fun I haven't seen it myself Fun to figure out the game a little more Right, oh and we're not logged in So this is you Oh nice Putting Lyman It's LMS right? I know I think it's LMS right?
    116:55
    I feel bad for not knowing it I knew it I know, yeah. Not green. Yeah, LFS. Sorry, I was F. Yes. Of course, now I see it, I know.
    117:07
    But rest in peace. Oh, yeah, you can't. Oh. Well, I, yeah. Yeah, we're all good. So. No match. Escher, by the way, is on Twitch. And at some point we'll be streaming.
    117:24
    If I can talk to him. I'm trying to talk me into streaming SoundVolt. SoundVolt actually is so cool. I'm good, but I'm not quite good enough. You know, I don't feel like I'm visually... I'm at the point where I'm... This is the people's eyebrow here, because this is... I'm inconsistent. Not streamer. No, Vertzilla, that's the thing. Yeah. It's something... He knows. His opinion matters more than yours. No, no, no. He knows. Vertzilla... Okay, so... Might be impressive. Yeah. It is just impressive in general. You don't have to be the most amazing at something in order to stream. If you engage, you teach, you do some other fun stuff. Like that, you can do all those things. And it is gorgeous. It's such a cool game. Also, because you do pinball, you have all these extra cameras, right? So you can do what nobody else is doing, which do a vertical on the left side, do a full 1080p. You know what we should do? I challenge you, Virzilla. You come on. We can maybe do a stream here or maybe on my stream, and we can 1v1 because we're both kind of getting into it and new. And you practice for two weeks after InDisc. We 1v1. Wait. Challenging you right now. Simultaneous battle? Yeah. Okay. So two controllers simultaneously. He said deal. He accepted. Deal. Okay.
    118:49
    Oh, my God. Can I set up the – I'll stream on your stream, but I want to make it look really pretty. Go for it. Can I do that? Yeah. Go for it. You can stream it on yours as well. Oh, my God. No. This is your thing. This is so cool. Okay. So we're going to set that up. That's going to be a thing. I swear there is the technical, like, how it's played is just intense. And I think with all of the cameras, I think we can do six cameras very easily. We should be able to capture the screen. we should be able to put them, show them side by side, show both of the controllers and then both of the players simultaneously. It's going to look awesome. Alright. Although you'd probably see some really crazy feed action on that. Check out Escher and StevoPub on Twitter. Also on Twitch as well to see this upcoming stream at some point here in the very near future.
    119:51
    And you guys have a great night. We'll be back on Thursday. No idea what we're streaming. If I can get Vertzilla and Paul to come over here for Thursday night's stream, I would be super excited. I don't know what we're going to play at all. Ooh.
    120:08
    You want to play Stars at some point? I do want to play Stars. Yes. And I just have to put in the displays. Or the displays. I don't know how to pronounce that word. Extra pollen, neat jello. Methadone, thank you guys so much. We're going to go find someone to raid. You guys have a great stream. Thank you so much, everyone, for hanging out with us tonight. And we'll see you on the Internet and on Twitch and on Escher's channels and on the Pinball Network. We'll see you everywhere, guys. Thanks so much.
    120:42
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