31:05slideshow do you see that you see that switching do you see me switching back and forth between the blurry and the non- blurry okay all right I'm Gonna Keep It on this we'll see if it goes scratchy or not is this for patreon only Hector I open this up for everybody Hector there's no way I could get 200 people on here if it was for patreon only and the reason why is is you know this is a this is a favor for Melvin and the team over there and it's a celebration of their game creation and so I want everybody to come through the door and look if you're not a member of the Canada Club I also wanted people to get a little bit of an exposure to Canadas pinball podcast I know a lot of terrible things are said about me by some people on pinside who just can't get over it um some people refuse to shake my hand when I meet them at pinball companies but I've been doing this for 11 years I believe I've been making the most entertaining pinball content there is uh me and Zach Minnie I think are the one two in that category I'll put Carrie Hardy in there too and Todd Tucky you know there's like a there's a supernal realm of pinball content creators and um and yeah I uh I I do weekly shows and do lives on my club only so no more Facebook lives it's all it's all behind the pay wall I do a lot of work I do a lot of research uh it takes a lot of time out of my life away from my family and so when I ask for $5 a month I hope people don't see that as an insult uh and I think anyone who's a member of the caned Club knows uh you are getting your money's worth um when you join up and you listen to the show uh I do believe I try to be 100% authentic I know I went on the hype train for this game uh I want to address that because I do think it is important for us to hype and get excited and and and get that fomo train back in the pinball because if we lose f and pinball we've lost I think half of what makes a new game launch exciting it it is it's because it's exciting to watch the people on the fomo train it's exciting to capture their excitement it's also exciting to speculate whether or not we think those people got on the right train right remember when people went to stern because they were invited and Stern put them on the fomo train around John wickle remember those people and they and some of them bought John Wick Lees remember people who just lost $ to 5,000 now because nobody wants a John Wick Le so it's fun to watch and be like like you got on the wrong train and look I in a in previous years I I got a fomo train going around Wily Wonka and it it was bad for me it was bad like I was talking about it like it was the second coming of pinball and a lot of people believed in my excitement and then you know the game never delivered and the CE sat unsold for like a year or two years and I I to my defense I was excited because I got to see the game before everybody else but it was more that you know Jack did tell me that all the assets were going to be in the game and none of them were so like I felt a little bit like misled on what was going to be in the game I'm always unsure what Jersey Jack means when they said when they say stuff like we have all the assets you want and even when you look at the Avatar video people they say in that Avatar launch video that we we've synced up everything you want but they haven't so it's like why why do they keep saying that just stop saying that and then I won't complain about it um no John Wick is I mean even George Gomez regrets John Wick all right we're at 12:41 we're gonna go at like 1255 is all right people we're going to go at like 1255 is we're going to start going through my deck I'm going to be looking at the clock but I guarantee you you're going to start to see Alice's Adventures in Wonderland just a little bit before everybody else we've got a very captive audience here I think you're really going to enjoy the PowerPoint slideshow I put together took me about an hour to do this um again I'm not paid by Dutch pinball X I am not sponsored by them I don't have any special arrangement with them uh Melvin simply reached out to me and Carrie we signed ndas and I'll say this it we barely got anything we barely got anything and and if you were on my chat last night I was giv out to Carrie because when he did the promo for his reveal party that he's doing right now um Can someone go over there and tell me how many people he has I'm curious how many he's got we've got 189 which is not bad he's got a much bigger uh face or YouTube audience than I do so I'm sure he's probably right around here as well um I love Carrie by the way he just made a boneheaded mistake we weren't supposed to use any of the assets and he used assets you know that's great no it's awesome I mean look car's got like 5,000 YouTube subscribers so I think that is awesome we we' both got some good audiences going right now um the he used an image that we weren't supposed to use yet and it didn't look right because it it was like thumbnailed and the colors were off and then I knew what would happen is like people were going to start like deconstructing um you know the the colors right and and saying oh it's not good it's not this it's not that um well here's what's funny between my 194 and car's 291 you know what that is people it's like the exact amount of games being made like if everybody who's watching Carrie and me right now uh wants and Alice they're sold out around the world forever and I also I also heard from Melvin that um that they're never ever making anymore there will never be other additions there will NE like this is it like you're not going to buy this game and they're going to see the overwhelming demand and make more it's just never happening all right so I think um I think some people have that concern you should have that concern because you saw Jersey Jack make more uh Wizard of Oz machines and Stern's been doing nothing but screwing over the people so yeah car's got you know 10,000 subscribers that's right he just crossed the 10,000 Mark that's awesome no car's Carrie's like the YouTube guy like YouTube is not my thing I use this only when I do lives periodically um my thing is podcasting you know that's my Lane um and then like Facebook lives basically because they were you know live and fun and unedited but you know I just have to pick and choose like where I want to apply my efforts and you know we've got just we got like a little little over 10 minutes and we're going to start seeing Al you guys ready do you guys want to see just a little bit should we give you just a little bit all right so I've got this blurry image I just want to show you like if you see car's thumbnail if you see car's thumbnail I'm gonna give you just a little bit just so you can see like we're going with the colors in this game and you can see like the colors are not nearly as like muted as they were in that teaser but we're gonna see um you know and and it you know I think a really hard achievement is to take zombie Yeti artwork and to make it into something that he didn't touch or colorize and would he have colorized this differently absolutely are we ever going to get that game never so I think you could look at it and wish for something different I think you're gonna look at it and think it's awesome and I think it's just that and I think this game would not exist if it were not for him um we're going to get going in a little bit five give me five minutes we got we we we can't jump the gun too much um you know there's an embargo and it I do respect that stuff but I wanna you know I want to give all of you guys who are here 224 people you know it's funny like what it's like what's he showing over there is he jumping the gun and like 320 I mean this is not a competition this is not a competition um you know it's like it's it's really going to be I I I I'm curious because I I want to you know go back and forth between this the the PowerPoint the Google Doc and here because I want to hear your comments um it's gonna be it's gonna be good it's gonna be good look I um I think today could turn into a little bit of a an show and I I I do mean that I think what could happen is is that coin Taker and you know Dutch sent out that email that I would not have sent out that was like if you're an EA and you still own your Labowski you can have an ALICE like you you can get first dibs at one I don't like Barry like what are you thinking I I told this to Melvin like Common Sense guys like how are you gonna now manage that portion of it because there's like I think there's like 180 EAS and even if just like a third of them want and Al is like how are you going to f figure out now how to hold those 60 games back because the order banks are opening up in 15 minutes right now and those people have to like verify they still own a Labowski by holding up a newspaper it's like it's like what like just sell the game and and I know they're trying to like be loyal and and and show you know so show some loyalty and give some rewards to the early Achievers but man I I just think that could make it a little bit uh hard for all the Distributors to know their allotment when you only have 500 because I think again I think I think the the disos are going to sell out like pretty instantly all right so let's let's start this PowerPoint gang because we're gonna we're gonna get into it all right I'm gonna I have things to stay on each slide so you know we all know that game started as like a dream of jpops more like a Ponzi scheme item to try and lure more people in to save his bankrupt butt because he had gone well overboard on the magic girl financials and on the razza deposit so he had this phone Corp right of Alice's Alice and Wonderland uh and typical J-pop fashion he didn't check on Disney with the IP that's why this game is called Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is because uh Melvin just wanted to avoid putting all the work and then Disney who very litigious maybe tries to put a stop to the game and I think it was a smart move I think it was a smart move because especially with like an adult version of Alice and Wonderland you just don't want to run into problems so he may he did the smart move now what you see here I want you to see this what you see here was nothing more than foam core with some thought starters and zombie Yeti artwork right and it's obvious the zombie 0 artwork the super deep zidar cabinet that never really worked um and you know Melvin took this you know it's just like literally these two guys Melvin and his team took that foam core and were able to make something that you're going to see today a fully working fully functioning fully operational pinball machine based on something that you know John could if if JN had a decade he wouldn't be able to finish the game um and Melvin did it in eight months you know we've been talking a lot about Jack danger doing X-Men in a in a 12mon uh you know production cycle you know I think these two guys Melvin and Barry combined I think you're looking at two very very talented pinball luminaries who are really going to be household names over the next five years and I think you're going to see them not just in this project I think you're going to see them in Back to the Future um and I think you know there's going to be a big future for this company even after that uh because I think they're just going to put products into the world that are unlike everyone else's product uh but also deliver I I think they have a good understanding of what made us love Bal Williams game so much uh but also in a modern way and you know I I know the Labowski manufacturing debacle was a disaster but you know you got to remember the context of when Barry rocked into I think it was pinball Expo with that game uh how how he showed up the entire industry uh now obviously you know we know all the other negative sides of the you know contract manufacturing and people being like lied to and not getting their money and all that stuff but I'm happy to report as of today this company is 100% fine you know they're doing great they have all the EAS have their games they owe nobody anything they're in the green and you know they're they're looking at the future with a lot of optimism and they've built a really eat off the ground super clean Factory um and they're going to make more Labowski production on Alice will start sometime in January um and they're looking you know on a good week they're putting out around 10 machines a week that is like how you know how the factory operates at its you know when it's at its capacity so you take 500 games 52 weeks you know it's kind of like everyone's G to get their game in 2025 is going to be the promise you get from them uh today they are going to make an announcement that all deposits will be refunded if you do not get a game in 2025 so I mean that is interesting all right we're going to show this baby just a little bit there um I wanted to to include this in today's discussion as we talk about Alice's Adventures in Wonderland um the I I don't even know where to start with this there wouldn't even be a game without Jeremy Packer um this man the amount of work and the amount of effort he put into Jon's projects at zidar uh and it it just was backbreaking and I know it was like really uh depressing for him to put all this effort into a company that turned out to be like a mad scientist Ponzi scheme and people lost all this money and his artwork never saw the light of day now I know this is not the way you know he wanted to see his his artwork on a game he probably would have loved to have like had it all work out um his artwork was not stolen from him I I want to clarify some things zombie Yeti Jeremy he was paid by John um he was paid by Billet pantasia and you know he's been compensated for the work he did on this stuff so it wasn't stolen from him you know Melvin didn't steal his laptop and download all the files okay so I I I think I think you got to be careful on the words you use here and we're not in a negative space here we're in a positive space about this man and what you're about to see is all because of the foundation he laid for this game and everything you're about to see is building on his foundation and you know the only good thing John ever did was that he Googled one day zombie artists because he had retro Atomic Zombie Adventure Land for you newbies that's how he discovered Jeremy he was just looking for a zombie artist and he found this guy and his will always you know be kind to Jeremy because he's historically maybe the best pinball artist ever and his games are phenomenal and I just wanted to say that that even though he's not at DPX and he has a illustrious career at Stern um this man uh should you know it's hats always hats off to him even though I'm not taking my hat off right now Jeremy because I've got my headphones on and everything all right all right we got a few minutes people I told you I'm gonna go just a few minutes early and we're gonna start to see the game um how many people we got in there 2:30 yeah we can't catch him we can't catch I love it between is is Carrie showing stuff already come on all right all right we got give me a minute give me a minute give me a minute give me a minute give me a minute give me a minute all right we're gonna go to the next slide all right couple minut give me a minute give me a minute all right we're getting close people I feel it Love Is in the Air just a couple minutes couple minut like just go few minutes early you're GNA see it I mean come on this is how we should do it this is how companies should do it they should build it up like this on one person's laptop not like cell phone screenshots to Joe AB body you know Bill Brandon is like just show me man I won't show anybody I'm like Bill the moment I give you an image joa body's got it in like three seconds I feel like you guys share a cell phone you know I'm like I'm not giving you an image and I'm proud to say I did not leak anything everything that you know you're about to see um has been kept quiet all right Bill does not all right are you guys ready are you ready are you ready to see Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by DPX and Melvin um and let's talk about it I'm going to go through each of these images and we're going to get to talk about it all right all right we're just a little bit now just I'm like I'm I'm just like going a little slower I don't want I and and gang do me a favor do not do not like get me in trouble and I I know asking this is going to make you do this so it's like I know the internet and I know people it's like do not take these in the next two minutes and screen grab them because highres images of all this is about to drop in I'm G to go at 1256 all right I'm G to go at 1256 highres images of all this stuff is going to be out there so just let that be the sharable images and we're off all right are you ready Brenda boom Al Adventure in Wonderland I like almost like want to um just let you guys see stuff and not talk it so here is our cabinet and it looks like it looks a little hold on like I'm like how does it look it looks a little it doesn't look as colorful it is let me see on my on my PowerPoint hold on hold on a second I think it looks great I'm just trying to make sure the colors are popping on the Google Doc hold