And these other tournaments, you won't win a machine, but you'll win a trophy and some sort of prizes as well. So there's just so much happening there. I don't know if you'll have any time to sleep. Well, that's so funny you should say about not sleeping. We'll get to that in a second. But you're right, just to recap these big prizes. You've got the Deadpool raffle for those who buy full admission. You've got those vendors that actually bring a game. Anybody who brings a game, you get a raffle ticket, and you could win a High Roller Casino game. So that's nice. American Pinball, the Houdini Contest. Someone's going to win a Houdini pinball machine. You've got the Stern Factory Tour. You've got these other tournaments, too. I love that Big Ball Bowler. I've got to go to Bruce Nightingale's and practice at his Silver Ball Saloon. He's got one of those there. It's so fun. Yes, St. Louis Ball Bowler. They killed the idea of one. Why don't you give a machine away? I said, well, why not? That would be kind of fun. Anyone could win. I mean, women, kids, anyone really has got an equal shot on that ball bowler. That's going to be really a lot of fun. So it's going to be nuts, man. It just going to be so much intensity at that show this year And this show is going to have a different feel like it ever had before You said about not being able to sleep There is a 24 free play area Right. We're separating it from the vendor hall because we just like to have the security of having the vendors and the goods they bring for sale under lock and key. So there will be machines in those rooms that people can play for free. But we're also going to have a separate room, which will be open 24 hours, which they can just play to their heart's content. Another thing that always draws my attention to these type shows, the tournaments are great for a player like myself, but not everyone's a tournament player, and it's a lot of people that are collectors. So you've got great panels that are going to be there. Yeah, that's something I started years ago on these seminars. I've always been pretty proud of that because I think the seminars are really a unique part of the show. Other shows have followed since that time, but we have had some great speakers, and it's kind of cool to meet these people up close and get a chance to meet them, talk to them, and many times, if you have the interest, get a picture with them. It's a huge lineup of what you've got there. Todd Tuckey's going to be there. Boy, if there's a guy who's got some stories, it's him. Oh, you know, he's got a great following. But Todd's got some really interesting seminars, and he's always very entertaining. He's been to our show several times, and like yourself, I'm looking forward to seeing what he's got up his sleeves this year. There's so many others, too. David Thiel, who was recently a guest on this show, he's going to be there as well. You've got the group from Deep Root coming there. So this is really the first exposure that anybody is going to see to this new pinball company that's been working hard behind the scenes in Texas, and now they're going to be all up front and center. That's very, very unique. Yeah, Robert Mueller is coming down with his team, and the one person who's coming, I haven't seen the Expo for years. He was very involved from Expo from day one is John Norris. So John Norris is an interesting story because he came to Pinball Expo, and he had designed the game on his own. And when one of the guys was giving a seminar, I think it was Gil Pollack or something, he said, hey, how do I get in this industry? And he kind of gave his thoughts. And John said, well, I've got a machine that I built on my own, and I'd like to share it with someone. And Gil Pollack said, bring it down. And the next thing you knew, John Norris was working for Premier Technology. So it's been kind of fun to see these kind of stories happen. And this was the very, very early years of Pinball Expo. But there have been other people that have got jobs as well as a result of Expo. I imagine Scott Denise, who's also going to be speaking there, he'll be there on the Saturday doing a talk. He's a guy who brought out the original Total Nuclear Annihilation and now doing very, very well with Spooky. So, yeah, you get some of this kind of stuff. Now, also, too, let's look at the other side, too. This is the first time many of us have seen John Papaduke back in the pinball circle. We know he's been working with Deep Root. So it's kind of curious. I know there's going to be a panel, and Robert's going to be hosting that. I wonder if there will be questions from the audience for that. I would imagine there might be one or two. Oh, yeah. I'm sure there will be, and let's hope John is there to answer them. We've talked about so much. I hope I've mentioned that there's also a lot of kids' tournaments, too. That was something that's really grown over the past few years, so it's kind of nice. You know, when I go to bigger shows and festivals, you know, replay, so many of us listening to this have been there. If you bring your kids, even though they might be there for 10, 12, 14 hours, It's tough to get them to leave because there's so much to do. So the kids' tournament is another great attraction at Pinball Expo 2018. Yeah, that's something that we did years ago, and we brought it back again with the help of American Pinball. They want to have a tournament at their booth that will include kids, and also going to have a tournament for the women's division. So, you know, we're trying to cover all aspects, so no matter who comes, really the whole family can come to the show and just have a great time. I will say this, that, you know, the Expo has gone through a lot of different phases. We've had our great years, and some years not so great. But I will say this, that anyone who's been to Expo in the past, you're going to see a show this year that is going to be unlike a show we've had in a long time. The amount of intensity and effort that we're putting into it is an amount of effort I've never done before as far as getting the local media involved and to get the attractions and events going on that will reach an all-time high in intensity. and we just have a lot of positive things happening. I've got a new team that I'm working with, and we're all out for a calmer goal of having everyone's experience be the best experience we've ever had at Pinball Expo. Rob, you touched on the new team, and I know in the last year or so, there were some, not concerns, but just curiosity. Where is Pinball Expo going to go? There was a division between the partners, and you're giving us some great reassurances that this is a different team with a different focus. so if you had been there in past years and you might have had any concerns, you're putting those to rest right now. To rest, yeah. The feel that you have walking the show will be night and day different from the past. Between the amount of vendors, between the amount of games, the events going on, it's just going to be over the top, I guess is the best way for me to put it. In your words and I don believe I heard any audio of you since this time last year in your words why was the change needed Well you know I was noticing with the Expo that it was losing its zip It was losing its excitement It was losing its appeal. It was losing its flavor with people. And part of it was because I had a vision of Expo, and my partner had a similar vision but yet a different vision in some of the ways that he thought we could promote the show and get people involved with the show. And like anything else, you know, everyone's got their ideas on what can be done. And our views were just becoming more and more strained as far as how the show could be promoted and how it could be better. So, you know, I approached him last year about buying the show, and that finally happened. And because of that, I'm putting an influx of money into the show that I think will allow people to have an event and a time of their life. And they'll see that my heart's there in the right place and that I walk my talk and the event will be something to speak about and to talk about for a long time. Rob, a lot of shows ask people to bring games, and certainly that's what makes the shows so big. We saw that just recently at Cleveland Pinball, a great show. And it was just the floor was filled with all these fantastic games. You've got that nice little carrot, too, that you're offering in winning that high roller casino game. For anybody who brings a game, you're going to get that great raffle ticket. Yeah, it's going to be something really special we're doing this year, Jeff. You know, my goal is to fill up that hotel with wall-to-wall games. And what I'm asking for your audience, if anyone would consider bringing games to the show, So the more information will be on our website, but basically the more games you bring to the show, the more raffle tickets you'll get. And what's special about that is if your name is pulled for the raffle, you win a Stern High Roller Casino pinball machine just by bringing the games. So what we're doing is the more games you bring, the more the raffle tickets you get in return. So if you bring five games, you get 10 raffle tickets. Ten games, 20 raffle tickets. So we're just trying to make it to the point where the more effort you put into it, the more raffle tickets you get. Also, there's a cash incentive with that as well to help cover any expenses you would need to bring the games to the show. So we want the experience for the attendees to be special. And the more games there are, of course, the more excitement there is. And like I mentioned earlier, Doc Mac is bringing 60 arcade games. I myself am probably bringing around 60 or 70. So if we can't hit 350 to 400, I'll be surprised because this is what the show is all about and this is what I want to do. And I'm even going to bring a few special games out of my collection. One is a Gauntlet of Spirit. It's a game you don't see every day. And also I'm bringing several of the early Stern pinball machines, one of them being Split Second, another one being Iron Maiden, one Stargazer. These are all fun Stern games that you just don't see every day. So these games will be at the show as well. So for those listening in, feel free to contact me via e-mail or just see the form on the website. But we'd really appreciate your help and cooperation and giving us your effort to make this show great for everybody. Find out more information about that at pinballexpo.net, and you can see how you can help bring a game and win maybe that high roller casino. But it'll just be such a fun experience too. I know people that have brought games there, homebrew games. And my buddy Mark in the city brought his Nightmare Before Christmas game there. That certainly got a lot of play and excitement, too. I forgot to mention one other thing. For everyone that brings a game, they will also have a special invite to a VIP welcoming party, which we're going to have Thursday at 430. So it's before the hall actually opens. But for those people that bring a game in, they'll get invited to that event where they can just eat and have a great time and drink and kind of socialize before the show actually opens at 6. Rob, I don't mind spreading the word on this program to the thousands that listen and the enthusiasts for all things pinball. I think you're going to do well, whether you're on the show or not. I think there's some new excitement in Pinball Expo 2018. So I wish you the best of luck, and I hope to see you soon. Jeff, I thank you so much. And get ready and tell all your friends, girlfriends, boyfriends, whatever, that you won't be available that weekend because you're going to be busy at the show. Rob will even write you a note, too. There you go. Hey, all the best. I look forward to seeing my past friends and future friends. I'm sure that you're going to have a great time. And please seek me out and say a quick hi to me. I'd appreciate hearing from you guys. Thank you, Jeff. Rob Burke here on Pinball Profile. You can find our group on Facebook. We're also on Twitter at pinballprofile, email us pinballprofile at gmail.com, and please subscribe on either iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Play. I'm Jeff Teolas.