Saturday Morning Spectacular!

Kaneda Pinball Podcasts YouTube Lives·video·1h 27m·analyzed·Nov 10, 2024

Analysis

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TL;DR

Kaneda critiques AAA pinball pricing and design magic while discussing 2025 competitive landscape from a Boston bedroom.

Summary

Kaneda broadcasts Saturday Morning Spectacular from Boston in a chaotic family visit, pivoting from personal frustrations about political polarization in the pinball community to extensive game design critique. He argues pinball pricing is unsustainable ($11k max for Stern LE, $10k for JJP LE), that recent AAA games (Avatar, X-Men) lack magical moments despite beautiful aesthetics, and positions 2025 as a year to evaluate games by their emotional resonance rather than investment value. He discusses Alice in Wonderland needing more zaniness/weirdness in code, praises Jaws for its moments of magic, criticizes Avatar's sterile design, and suggests upcoming Barrels of Fun and Spooky releases will set the competitive standard.

Key Claims

Stern LE should be no more than $11,000; Jersey Jack CE should be $13,000; JJP LE should be $10,000
high confidence · Direct pricing prescriptions by Kaneda based on market value retention analysis
X-Men has no moments of magic despite beautiful design and toys
high confidence · Kaneda and Josh (X-Men owner) agree on lack of magical moments; attributed to coding by Mike Vinacore
Avatar has zero magical moments and is a sterile game that makes you feel numb
high confidence · Kaneda's direct criticism comparing Avatar to caviar eaten with COVID-damaged taste buds
Alice in Wonderland needs more zaniness and psychological/trippy elements in code
high confidence · Kaneda's detailed brief for Alice developers to inject weirdness, Easter eggs, and disruptive elements
New Metallica LE limited to 500 units was correct decision by Stern to combat value erosion
high confidence · Kaneda's endorsement of production scarcity strategy after previous LE oversupply tanked values
Jaws is filled with moments of magic and the Jaws Revenge code provides innovative new gameplay
high confidence · Kaneda contrasts Jaws favorably with Avatar and X-Men on emotional resonance and innovation
Barrels of Fun's Goonies and Spooky's next game will be heavily desired by collectors
medium confidence · Kaneda predicts demand shift if Goonies releases in Feb/March before Alice ships
European and Australian pinball collectors need $10-15k monthly discretionary income to buy new NIB games
medium confidence · Kaneda's economic analysis of international pricing burden relative to local currencies

Notable Quotes

“I don't feel like enough magic is happening in pinball now”
Kaneda @ ~25:00 — Central thesis: current AAA games lack emotional resonance despite high prices and long development
“X-Men doesn't have moments...Avatar is like a sterile game that just makes you feel numb...like eating caviar when you had COVID and lost your taste buds”
Kaneda @ ~28:00 — Scathing comparison of two flagship 2024 releases as beautiful but emotionally hollow
“You're getting ripped off if you want to charge me this much for games that have as much magic in it as they used to”
Kaneda @ ~40:00 — Direct value proposition critique linking pricing to emotional ROI
“I'd rather have a non-complex game filled with magical things happening than these deep sterile games where you play and you feel nothing”
Kaneda @ ~41:00 — Positioning simplicity + magic over complexity + emptiness as design philosophy preference
“Go do some mushrooms...make this game do some crazy stuff...I want to feel like this game is a trip like no other”
Kaneda (on Alice developers) @ ~56:00 — Concrete creative direction for Alice: inject psychedelic weirdness and rule-breaking
“The old Williams games had it both in the code and in the mechs...it was beautiful...they didn't have deep code but what was there was magic”
Kaneda @ ~42:00 — Historical contrast positioning vintage simplicity as superior to modern overengineering
“Alice is another game like...we made a working version of the John Papaduke foam-core game...but I don't feel like there's a conductor standing over that game bringing to life a dream or a vision”
Kaneda @ ~50:00 — Alice lacks unified creative vision despite mechanical competency
“A good creative director can steer a brand...a bad creative director or chief creative officer can ruin an entire brand like Gucci”

Entities

Kanedaperson JoshpersonBrendapersonMike Vinacoreperson Christopher Franchiperson Melvinperson Barryperson

Signals

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sentiment_shift: Kaneda reports losing friends over political disagreements but minimal Patreon unsubscriptions; suggests pinball community broadly aligned with conservative/libertarian sentiment post-2024 election
medium · I haven't had many people unsubscribe so I think that most pinball people are probably excited about the direction the country's going in
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competitive_signal: Barrels of Fun (Goonies) and Spooky (Evil Dead, Dungeons and Dragons) positioned as 2025 competitive threats to Alice; long Alice timeline creating demand vacuum for other boutique releases
medium · if Goonies comes out...I think you're going to see a lot of people want it...I think you're going to see a lot of people want Spooky's next game
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design_philosophy: X-Men has beautiful design and toys but lacks magical moments in code; Magneto/Sentinel mechanics don't connect meaningfully; Mike Vinacore's coding criticized as ineffective despite day-one code (0.8 version)
high · X-Men's got all of the toys and all of the magnets...yet they don't really utilize it...there's not a single moment of magic in the game right now
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design_philosophy: Avatar criticized as sterile with zero magical moments despite beautiful design; explicitly compared to eating caviar with COVID-damaged taste; lacks toys on upper playfield and meaningful buildup to multiball sequences
high · Avatar is like a sterile game that just makes you feel numb...there's not a single toy in the game there's not a single toy in Avatar
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design_philosophy: Kaneda advocates for magical moments over technical complexity; praises vintage Williams simplicity; criticizes modern overengineered games lacking emotional resonance; positions wizardry and code depth as secondary to 'moments'

Topics

Pinball game design philosophy: magical moments vs technical depthprimaryPricing sustainability and market value retention for new gamesprimaryAvatar pinball design critique: lack of toys, emotional resonance, playfield magicprimaryX-Men pinball: beautiful design lacking code-driven magical momentsprimaryAlice in Wonderland: need for psychedelic/zany code development directionprimary2025 competitive landscape: Barrels of Fun, Spooky, and boutique manufacturerssecondaryMetallica LE scarcity strategy and playfield art criticismsecondaryPolitical polarization and cancel culture in pinball communitysecondaryVintage Williams games as benchmark for magic vs modern sterile designsecondary

Sentiment

negative(-0.65)— Kaneda is deeply critical of current AAA pinball design quality despite beautiful aesthetics, frustrated with pricing inflation, and disappointed by lack of emotional resonance in flagship 2024 releases (Avatar, X-Men). Mixed optimism about 2025 boutique competition and potential for code improvements on Alice. Positive on Jaws, Metallica strategy, and overall community respectfulness. Personal frustrations about family travel and political divisiveness add underlying tone of fatigue.

Transcript

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ah all right how do I share this link share copy link let's go to Facebook real quick okay all right all right right I'm mean I'm I'm like in a remote location today so this is a this is this is um going to be an interesting show to say the least how's everybody doing I can't see the chats where's the chats all right somebody somebody chat something let's see if you're here see if it pops up where are the chats oh there we go Josh I I see this is nice this is nice um we uh we went up to Boston this weekend to see some family so I am in a bedroom in a family members house and I thought I'd do this show we put it up on Facebook um I'm gonna figure this whole Saturday morning thing out Killian what are you doing come on buddy Brenda seriously this is like can you get me up here no no oh my gosh Brenda why is Killian in here Brenda I I think legit like I need 10 o to do a show don't touch the phone don't touch theone Brenda I don't understand how you know I'm doing a show babe all right buddy buddy Daddy's got to do his show I don't it oh my God my God okay into that bedroom there oh my God come on scraby oh my God um okay so here's the deal people here's the deal bring it in keep keep it quiet this wasn't exactly the weekend I was sold on um I should have just leted Brenda come up with the kids like the dog is barking it's it's chaos the bed's not that comfortable like I just this at at my age I don't really find this to be that much fun um and I'm like this is the thing about sometimes you get roped into these things where it's like we're going to go visit family we're going to is the sound cutting out let me know do it sound all right I don't know could be I can't tell sound in or out um how's the sound gang before we get into it okay so that's the thing is like I I just think when you have like a baby um when you have a baby people should come to you I mean that that is like my pet peeve about traveling with a baby is like they're babies like why are we go like everyone else can just conveniently come and go and visit the baby why are we going with baby places and then like oh my gosh I I you know okay so like good news is is I I made this smart move though gang Brenda took the kids up in the minivan and I drove separately in the Toyota okay so that I can go leave earlier today because they're coming back tomorrow I'm like I'm going I'm going home earlier today I'm going to have like a nice dinner by myself back in row aen and I'm going to like go to cars and coffee tomorrow morning okay so like I just have to you know just have to to put up with it for a few more hours okay but you're not here to talk about this family trip we're going to talk about Pinball it's been a little bit of a crazy week um it's been a sort of you know I don't know it's kind of been all over the place I think um pinball poltics friendship conversations um basically I I'm I'm still kind of Decon instructing the entire week I'm still sick as you can hear give me one second G I have to get a couple bottles of water okay then we're going to get the show started properly all right thank you for hanging in in the first tough five minutes I'll be right back I hear you but I don't see you all right got a bottle water right here oh my God this door is like on the freaking bed frame H you guys like it here on YouTube better than Facebook I get more of an audience on Facebook but um you know people want it on YouTube I think moving forward if everybody just knows that Canada's Saturday morning spectacular hour is going to be on the YouTube channel um that's open to the public I I think that's just the way we'll do it and and you let me know I mean Facebook I don't know if we don't get the numbers we used to get it might make more sense to go to Facebook but I'm curious what you guys think do you like it here do you like it on Facebook every time I put up a poll people like it on YouTube better so um that's that okay I before I get into pinball I just want to say real quickly uh as a as a as a moderate lover of of pinball of friends of people I love and respect I just want to say how um how extremely disappointed I am in some people that were really good friends of mine who um who called me like Nazi and monster and and deplorable names simply because I don't agree with their political views and I think they completely have Miss they've missed the entire reason why people are done with this culture of canceling people out of you have to think exactly like I do or I'm going to call you garbage you have to you you know it's all or nothing with me and I just want to say you know looking at the pinball Community I think predominantly this is a community of people that are open mind that respect each other that engage in dialogue and debate we debate the pinball machines the companies the products um and I just don't and I just find there to be an utter close-minded bullying behavior that happens um you know to certain people who are leaning a certain direction and I think blanket calling everybody nasty names is the easiest way to never win an election again and I do believe that America is an amazing country it has its faults um we have a democratic process that I respect um and I think you know when we look at the reality I think people want to go back to a time in which we are you know keeping more of our hard hardwork the the money we work hard for we want to go back to a culture that actually does allow people to have fun and enjoy life again and not be so utterly uh you know offended by everything uh infiltrate like all the things people love and jam down its throat you know I I I'm just tired of it all I'm tired of it all I remember a world before like pronouns and all the virtual signaling and all the BS that like like literally this all this stuff is infiltrated culture in The Last 5 Years and I think people have just had enough with it and I think you just need to understand that like it's okay that people just want to go and and get rid of some of this stuff that's not helping anybody it really isn't okay so like that's it um you know I I have lost some friends this week and uh I haven't had many people unsubscribed so I I think that most pinball people are probably uh excited about the direction the country's going in and hopefully will go in uh you know no now is the time where people just have to deliver what they say they're going to do but I will never shut you down I will never tell you if you think that way you're an idiot or you're garbage or you're a Nazi and I really do think um you know I really do think think if you want to be in in a if you want to be happy in life you have to find a way um to like learn how to have dialogue and conversation with people like an adult and I mean that okay now I put up a show about how this all relates to pinball and you know it's all about like how do you get it wrong like how do you read the room wrong how do you not understand what people really want um and I really think Alice will take around 10 to 20 price because of in incoming taxes the tariffs you know it's interesting right um you know if there's tariffs on Goods imported into America what that will mean for pinball obviously most pinball will not be impacted by that I think what's going to happen in pinball you know based upon coming out of this election coming out of things um can we talk about X-Men for a minute now that I have one yes we'll talk about X-Men I like I think what's going to happen is I think this is good for pinball I think people are going to have more money I think people are going to have have more sort of optimism and I think people are going to uh basically you know spend more when they have more money back in their wallets and it like if if the price of gas and food and everything else starts to go down and inflation starts to get managed better it's going to be good for this hobby what's bad for this hobby now what here's the thing here's the thing that I was thinking about like um we need pinball inflation to come down okay we need pinball to come down because pinball prices have been inflated and to say that like nothing nothing will happen to ever combat pinball inflation is I I think a very shortsighted myopic way to look at pinball and if I'm to think about pinball right now uh it really is like way too expensive and as I continue to see more and more of these I mean these are great games that are all losing so much value game after game after game after game and it's like at some point it's going to like it's going to have to stop and someone's going to have to figure out a way someone's G have to figure out a way to um to bring prices down not don't bring them a ton down but I I think a Stern Le should be no more than 11 I think a jersey Jack CE should be 13 I think a jersey Jack Ellie should be 10 I think that's that's a good price and I think if if these companies don't do this they're going to continue to see very very soft sales on new and box games and I I how you know you can have the only like only one out of 10 new in box games actually holds value for like a like a year like you can't have all these Collectibles that are just tanking instantly it doesn't work it doesn't work it's like you'll just be satisfied with what you have I mean 5,000 to lose $5,000 on a single pinball machine is crazy to me it's like a vacation um I don't look I think pinball customers in Europe uh I think pinball companies consumers in Australia I think you guys have always suffered I I think there're let let's just be pretty candid here if you want to buy new in box or collect pinball machines in Australia or Europe you need to be a wealthy individual like a wealthy individual like you need to be the kind of individual that probably has about 10 to 15,000 extra a month at a bare minimum to just think about what you want to do with right I mean I I mean that when I say that like any financial adviser would tell you that like because if a pinball machine in Europe is like 12 to1 18,000 Euros that is for a pinball machine purchase on that month I wouldn't even think about buying a pinball machine if if that was how much a game cost if I wasn't also investing you know 30% of my income if I wasn't like paying down like if I had a mortgage like I just think it's crazy uh to think about collecting pinball machines in Europe and Australia unless you are significantly well off financially and like good news is there are plenty of people significantly well off right in all these countries and and there aren't that many games that go over to Europe or that go to Australia in America what's good about American pinball buying right now is there's just so many good games I think if you look at where we are as a hobby there's so many good games and so much of it is readily available I I think I'm seeing more more great games for sale at what now are becoming pretty I don't know reasonable prices considering what new and box costs it's a great time it's a great time to be a pinball buyer and it's just going to keep getting better I mean now we're going to start to see um a plethora of $113,000 James Bond L Foo Fighter l Jaws L all these games you know Venom John Wick there I mean Jaws will hold better but all those other games gang be like nine grand all right like that's what it used to be like in LA was like 8,500 9500 you owned it and it didn't really go down that much problem I see with all of the new stuff is there's a thousand of them and that just makes it a lot more difficult for any of these things to hold any sort of value or scarcity or Rarity I also think the L's don't stand out enough uh there's not enough exclusivity to them they made the premiums look just as good there's I you know we don't talk about this a lot but the mod Community has just become so robust I mean there's so much in the mod Community where you can just dress up your game I I don't recommend that I think but I I think that dudes who spend like2 to $3,000 modding premiums need their heads examined uh it is like that is lighting that money on fire but more so than the investment side of this hobby that's not why you love pinball nobody's in this hobby because of any of that I think what's happening and has happened over the last like few years we're just waiting for better games better games right unfortunately in our hobby it it's not like every year pinball keeps getting more fun or every year Games Keep creating more moments of magic and I think when I when I look at the pinball landscape right now and you stop talking about the money side of it I want to talk about the magic side of it and I think that's the conversation that I want to have more of as we look at this Hobby and evaluate pinball moving into 2025 is holding these games accountable for how much magic we're getting right magic for the money you could call it but like how many moments of magic is this industry developing as they think about design and toys and software and I I really do think that we are uh very short changed in that department I I don't feel like enough magic okay is happening in pinball now Josh talk to me about X-Men it's a game that shoots amazingly well do you feel as an X-Men owner um there is a moment of magic and as he just said there's not a single moment of magic in the game right now and that is because weisson as a coder is bad and he doesn't know how to code in that otal moment that you're going to want to get back to uh the thing that just like is always exciting to reach and you know I always say this with pinball like you always want to have some of those moments where you can call somebody over and say hey watch this like watch what happens when you get here um you know like you know X-Men's got all of the toys and all of the magnets and all of the Sentinel head and and yet they don't really They Don't Really utilize it you know I'm hearing like Magneto doesn't really utilize his magnetic powers and it's not connected in a way that makes the journey like memorable um you know but but here's the thing Patrick this these days of like it takes time no Patrick I don't care if the code is only 08 there should always be some moments of magic that land with a new game on day one because things should be built around those moments of magic I don't think X-Men has it I don't think I don't think Avatar has it at all I don't I I think Avatar is like a sterile game that is just like makes you feel numb like it just does like you walk away from that game and like I don't I don't know it's beautiful but like I don't feel anything uh you know it's kind of like eating caviar when you uh had covid and you lost your taste buds so like not really you know the the thing I would you know Bank on so um let me let me do something real quick I want to post on patreon this link because I don't I don't think everyone on the patreon knows we're here the Facebook people do but let me do this real quick hold on one second sorry if I can see if I can do this real quick hold on share copy link there we go sorry guys I'm going to share it let's share it in a few places Facebook all right see we already got more people through the door um you know and that's like like that's really what I think is going to be uh I think the door that's opened up for barrels of fun for Dutch pinball for spooky pinball for Turner pinball for you know everybody else moments of magic like that's the brief that's the brief okay so like like let's let's look at avatar for a minute we're g to spend two years developing this game we're gonna base it on this franchise what's the moment of magic in the game Mark you want to put these lower playfields are they magical is it going to feel like a moment of magic um when this happens can we talk about this sh on top of what this is not my cabinet I'm Mr Christopher Franchi I am in someone I am in a I I think she's like 22y old I'm in a 22y old nurse's bedroom right now family member of Brenda's let me show you this is not my room this is I don't look there's a Louis Vuitton lips that are melting gold I don't know what that's about so this is where I'm at right now um this is not my room so um like I think when Avatar was designed and I don't know how you put those lower playfields in and during the Whitewood stage find them fun like what's fun about not bashing anything what's fun about flipping a fake pinball that has no weight to it towards a Target where the crab doesn't even move I I don't and then you go above the plate field there's not a single toy in the game there's not a single toy in Avatar just think about that for a minute and I know franie knows this when we see when we see Evil Dead and we see what spooky has been working on there's going to be toys in it me major toy toys going to flip around log cabin house Evil Dead The Book of the Dead like there stuff's going to happen stuff's going to happen it's going to sink up with the the movies with the voices from the actors you're going to get Bruce Campbell doing call outs like pulling you into the to the game it's going to have moments I know it's going to have moments I know those guys care so much about those properties that they're not going to release a sterile game you know X-Men doesn't have moments it's beautiful Xmen and Avatar are two glorious examples of two beautiful games that still kind of make you feel nothing and maybe the code will come around more time on the X-Men code but like then you look at jaws it's like makes you feel everything where Jaws like you know the greatest toys but it but it has moments Jaws pinball is is filled with moments and that Jaws Revenge code in itself in in it in with just one moment of of the way they made the Jaws Revenge sort of uh you know gameplay and like the mini the mini game like it's a whole new game like they gave you a whole new game that's so awesome so creative so Innovative so unique like that's what people want you know part of it is that X-Men is based on nothing really well the problem Josh is that X-Men is not based on nothing it's B based on that storyline of going back or this alternate future in which the Sentinels take over the world and they don't it the game doesn't feel like that it doesn't feel like you're in this sort of dystopian future and you've got to claw your way back to the alternate future it doesn't really do that enough and when you start the game you know what they have done like when you start X-Men you should be in like you know I don't know the the game should go like haywire and and like constantly be going back before between future and present like constantly and that should be the whole game it's it's not that it's all it just feels like you're just in these random battles and it feels like they tried to go down like a Deadpool kind of code Road and then it doesn't really doesn't really come to life yeah you know where else the multiballs happen out of nowhere Avatar like you you get to these multiballs and there like these major battle scenes and there's like no there's no buildup to it there's no energy there's no you just don't care you know and and I think look I think this is going to be the year in which we really start to look at these games through that lens of of like where's the magic and and I I don't understand how you can even make a pinball machine and go through the year of development and all the whitewoods and people at a pinball company that should know better and you can like stand over something and be like well why doesn't this game have magical moments you know I just I don't how do you get that wrong and I think at these prices that reality is just amplifying I think the disappointment and I think I think it also amplifies you know it amplifies the um the the Ripoff I I don't know any other word to use like you're getting ripped off if you want to charge me this much for games that have have as much magic in it as they used to and you know look the old B Williams games had it both in the Cod and in the mechs like it was it was beautiful they didn't have deep code but what was there was magic I'd rather have a non-e game filled with magical things happening than these deep sterile games where you play and you feel nothing right and it's just got right you know that's it that's it so I want to um I want to talk about how I went down down on my last post on patreon uh who's going to win the next like few months of pinball and you know let's start with Alice's Adventures in Wonderland I've been um I've been sort of uh all over on this game right I hyped it like you know it's fun to get on the hype train I played it I've seen it I've been a part of a bad stream launch program or campaign if you will that wasn't very good and now I feel like you know I almost feel like like they maybe revealed it a little early and it's November December like in three months games are supposed to be on the line I I don't know really you know uh I think they need to get all those deposits in I think they need to just start making them but you know I think for me Alice is going to come down to a game where they need to code in more moments and I mean that like I played it and I think it it has like like it has it has zero zaniness right now it's like they kind of just like they knew the characters on the art and then they made modes based on those characters but nothing like nothing really like mad happens when Mad Hatter is going like the things spin but I just think there needs to be way more of like that game being possessed by all these weird characters in Wonderland and I think what's hard with Alice right now when you think about the way the game is structured is you play as Alice but you never hear her right you never there's no Alice call outs and I I think that's a huge difficult sort of like thing to to do because I you know it's not a movie where you've you've already seen it like I want to feel like I'm I'm like hearing her inner monologue as she's traveling through Wonderland battling these you know these personalities or these characters and you don't hear any of it like it's another game like when you hit start it's not like you don't feel like you're in like page one of this fairy tale that's like telling you what to go like really do um all that can be fixed with code it's just a matter of will they and you know what is in Melvin's head what is in the DPX team's head it's almost much like with Alice you needed to bring in a little bit of a an author like someone who understands how to tell a story that's connected and also like in a way that's connected even to the artwork and the visuals of the game because right now it's feel a little bit a lot of bit you know more like we made a working version of the Jpop foam core game there's there's stuff to do there you know when you do stuff you get scores and you know these things turn on there's magnet flips there's spinning disc there's magnet here it's all like it's all there but I'm I don't feel like there's an like a a conductor standing over that game that's bringing to life a dream or a vision or a journey or a moment of magic in it right now that is going to make playing it time and time again rewarding right now and and because I think you're going to get over the sculpts I think you're going to get over the art I think you're going to get over all of that um and then you know for $12,500 you're G to want a great game you know and I don't want to do a pinball podcast or be a pinball personality where I I sort of like uh you know I I Chang the rules on how I'm going to evaluate a game I mean I can't come out here after 10 years of doing this saying you know my criteria for a great game is x y and z z and then I just like ignore that for Alice because a I I think B's a great guy or B you know I think they did achieve making the Jpop game work so but then you know again it all adds up to the like so what is it worth it so what did so what like was that game even worthy of being fixed or remade right and would John of adct more magic into it and because you didn't tap into John's mind like you just kind of made what was on the foam Corp and the foam cour was pretty much just like a artistic fake game designed to create you know more more money coming in it it was part of the Ponzi scheme so I I think you know over the next three to four months think the job to be done because I do want to see this game turn out to be much more enjoyable for its owners I think the job to be done is to kind of go actually do some mushrooms I mean this whoever's coding Alice go do some mushrooms go get a little psychedelic on it make this game do some crazy stuff like you need you now need to code this thing in a way that just kind of FS with you as a player like I want to feel like this game is a trip like no other and I think that would be the brief make this game trippy make it weird like make stuff should happen like unexpected at a left field like it just you know again Melvin's got open code like throw some Easter eggs in there bro like I don't know like all of a sudden you're playing the game and like you hit something five times in a row and aha Take On Me starts playing who cares just put it in there you think the band's GNA sue you or try to get it removed you know I think you need to create that I think they need to break some rules be be disruptive with this thing and like you know just do it just don't ask for forgiveness not for permission and just make this thing a little crazy the fact that it's open code Source cool let some let some people now start injecting some of those Easter eggs into the game and release a like you know secret Alice code that unlocks all this weird zany stuff and I think if they do that and this game becomes like uh you know like like a like a a pinball machine asset trip or mushroom experience you know not that I do drugs but I I just want it to be trippy right I just want to be trippier than uh than it currently is um but yeah I think that's my take on that on that game I think the long production weight is going to also be an issue because here's what's going to happen people like if Goonies comes out by barrel of fun like if barrels has Goonies and that's next and we see that game you know sometime in in February March uh I I think you're going to see a lot of people want it I think a lot of people are going to want spooky next game I think Dungeons and Dragons we'll see franie you know I it's um it's not drugs that makes me buy All That Gucci brother it's uh it's Woodford Reserve Manhattans on the rocks look I'm glad I bought all that Gucci when I did I'll tell you why the Gucci sucks now I don't buy any of it uh you know you'll appreciate this Chris as an artist their designer Alejandra Michelle he made Gucci so much fun he turned it into a circus it was amazing for like 10 years he made that brand so much fun and now it sucks it just goes to show you a good creative director can steer a brand in a excited to buy a bad creative director or chief cretive officer can ruin an entire brand like Gucci sales are plummeted like nobody's buying because it's boring it's sterile it's like now it's trying to be like understated luxury like who the hell buys Gucci and wants to be understated like you know what I'm saying like I I hate when brands do that I hate when they do that um you age out a Target no you know let me tell you something uh you don't age out a Gucci when they're when their Blazers are $44,000 they're not targeting a young audience okay let me tell you that right now uh you know Gucci's I am the target for Gucci um you know guys that you know like there there's there's no like aging out there's like you just you you need money like this isn't like young kids aren't dropping that on Gucci now look they do go on there most of the stuff they sell the sneakers and belts and that's what young kids buy but all right so that was Alice um let's talk about Dungeons and Dragons and then we'll talk about well do you want to talk about new Metallica first I don't think there's much to say about new Metallica other than as I've said before I think um Stern did it right Stern did it right to uh make only 500 Lees the old games are just tanking in value and well you know you got to remember people bought the original Metallica Le for like $5,900 or 6,500 so nobody lost money I I feel bad for the newbies who came in during covid and bought Metallica L for like $18,000 you know those games are now selling for 10 10 five I mean the new metallic is better in every single way I look I think that you know Donny Gillies (Dirty Donny)'s package is more cohesive than the new one but it's not as the new one's so much cooler and more Metallica like I don't I just don't like the new Metallica's Playfield art I think the cabinets are great I think the Playfield art when you look at like the the illustration and the handdrawn Kraken and the logo like all of that detail and you know because it's clear what they did is they got an artist who's really good at Metallica poster art right he like this guy is like he makes posters that's why the backbox looks great the cabinet but he did not understand how to make a Playfield he didn't he didn't get it he didn't get it like you have to have a different understanding of how to lay out uh a playfields artwork you know to make it really work right and I don't think he he understands it because like it looks like he was just dropping stuff in but he didn't really design this beautiful Illustrated art package that like framed up the shots with the inserts with the art like I think he kind of just probably took the the dimensions of the Playfield and just made art and then it just just doesn't really pop why does it feel like many can only see let me see I'm trying to keep your comments up let's you guys like when you write stuff I'm just trying to like keep it so I can see it because it comes and then it disappears and I'm like trying to I don't know why it does that I can't scroll and see the messages like I could on Facebook um but you know look Metallica Le let's just hope the build is good the game is now like a $177,000 game and you know it's um it's Metallica happy they made it I think a lot of people are mad they didn't get an Le but you know but it's it's um it's it's not really a new game right it's a new version of an old game and so you know Spike 3 is going to do something interesting and I think you know we think about Spike 3 it's going to have a bigger screen better lighting better speakers uh better Insider connected I think they're going to change the way you connect Insider connected probably it's having like those QR codes and I don't know it's a little Bobo um but I think there's going to be hopefully they put a camera in the game I do I do love the external facing camera that jjp has in its games um because I think what's cool about Stern if you're connecting all these machines and you have a camera you're going to be able to like if you can play with your friends you might be able to see each other as you're playing and sort of you know capture your looks and and have a lot more fun connecting the games I um I don't know I I still don't think Dungeons and Dragons is GNA be um you know I think we see 500 L I think if it is Dungeons and Dragons I think we see 500 L I think we'll see a thousand um if I think we'll see a thousand King Kong Keith Elwin games um I think Stern's gota gota step up here I think they've um I think they've sort of missed the they've missed the boat on a lot of themes that I think they're going to watch enthusiast happening around them next year more than with them and I think what they will end up doing is remaking another classic like Tron and I think they they realize that will work they can do it it's not hard John Borg has been working on the next Tron um he's been working on it for a while so if you are a Tron Elli owner and you're wondering whether or not Tron is coming back out I think you are probably G to be your 18,000 no not even 18,000 your $20,000 Tron Le is gonna go all the way down and and what's going to happen is the same thing happening with metalla because nobody really wants the old Le I mean Metallica Le now is at 105 and it didn't sell um I just don't know why you'd want the old one why would you want a DMD Metallica game like why you're going to want a DMD Tron when the new One's Gonna like just blow it away I don't know I think I I really do believe that like a Tron the old one original one if they do the new one amazingly well probably slide all the way down to8 Grand 75 like people just won't care you know there's like because remember now you're like like it's it's gotten to the point now where like modern pinball doesn't look so damn good we like like DMD now is feeling a little bit like like a like a solid state em game it's like you know you're only going to find buyers with guys who kind of prefer DMD which is like not a lot and so you know Tron is coming King Kong is coming Dungeons and Dragons is coming but you know know what's not coming from Stern is is I think enough real Nostalgia from the 80s and 90s and I think Seth Davis realizes that I think that's why they sent out that survey I I'm I'm shocked when I think about something I'm about to years they don't have one nostalgia throwback license from the 80s or 90s just think about that for a minute not one unless you count Guns and Roses as like a band from 1986 but how are you making Avatar you know the Godfather from the 70s Elton John from the 70s you've got Hobbit from the 2000s that nobody loved Wizard of Oz from what like the 50s or 40s I don't even know when that was like right what what is wrong with Jack gnar's theme selection like you legitimately know that your your major buying base is nostalgic for the 80s and 90s and you deliver nothing over an 11year period of making games you you make nothing from that time period I I don't get it dial in dialed in is terrible you know like it is it is one of these like d is a great example it's a great example of like putting everything in a blender that you think kids like and then putting the designer in mom jeans on the major art package in the game like that's Pat Lawler In Those Jeans and red shirt and then like you're like I mean the game is just so so it's silly Inspector Gadget Karate Kid die hard Total Recall heck Breakfast Club would be better you know European Vacation Chevy CH the original vacation Christmas Vacation um I just I don't know I really um I feel like it's so easy to to skip on a lot of these themes lately they just they do nothing to make you want to spend the money and you know I I don't get it I really don't get it I've been having fun with my Guns and Roses thank you for asking um you know it's an interesting pin I I will say that it's not the best shooter you know that I know that um what I don't like about the guns and Ros layout where I think there was a little bit of a Miss is I think that it it's like it's very like it's very bricky you know like you can't really get combos going at all like there's not a lot of flow anywhere in the game and there's almost like too many like switches and Spinners and like like areas of the game where it's almost like it's almost like Eric just wanted to have something happening everywhere and because of that you know you lose a little you lose a lot of just like of flow and combo and because you know the ball the ball doesn't really have like like it doesn't flip around the orbits um the center scoop I'm I don't have a problem with the center scoop but I have a problem with is there's nothing there's no shot to there's there's only one shot that really returns to the flippers and even then it doesn't return to the flippers that quickly and that's the right ramp like the orbits don't return to the flippers they they bounce off a little post area you know what I'm saying like there's no like up down quickly around the game where you can like get into a rhythm like you can with Elon John so like everything is always like rattling around areas of the game and then you know what I also just don't like is I wish there was a way when when a song starts I I yeah I have the new iio board I wish there was a way and gun is that when you lock the six balls on top of the guitar neck here's the thing I don't like about like the way it's coated right now so you lock the balls on the guitar neck which is satisfying to do and I I like doing it but then when I start a song right it just drops all those balls in the play okay but if you don't lock the balls on the guitar neck and you start a song it also just drops all these balls into play so I don't feel like this sense of like I even need to be doing that like it does it doesn't even matter it's like whether I lock balls or not I'm in this multiball when a song starts I I find that to be a little Annoying what I would have liked to have had happen is when those balls are up there on the guitar neck it would have been fun if you could control like if they had like a third flipper button or or used the lock down bar button that would be the smartest thing to do you you could control like adding another ball into the action by pressing that lock down bar button once this way I could have like five balls locked up on the guitar neck I could have a song Going enjoy the song I could see where my shots are and I've got like five five other bullets in the chamber so if that ball drains I can release another one but still be playing the song and going for the shots without because the way it is now it's just stupid the way all the balls just get dumped onto you right it's like it's like that's the thing I don't like it's like they just dump all the balls onto you you know what shots you need to hit in each song but you're just kind of flailing away and you almost like you flail away you're trying to lock balls up on the guitar neck for power cord but you can't focus on anything cuz it's just like it's it's just like it's just it's just this like chaos and I think if like if they had done it differently and made it feel like you were locking balls in the gun chamber and you know you you so it's like you know you've got six ball saves or five more ball saves you know and but then you could like actually play the game with the music going in a way that's not just like that that's my take on G&R um I actually let balls drain on purpose I find the songs much more enjoyable when there's only one one or two in play because I can actually use skill and not just like flail away um and I think it's also like a total Miss like it's more fun when you get to the Encore mode because then you feel like some some like sense of urgency to pay attention you know when when everything's just going at once you don't care you're just like I don't know why they did it that way see Canada plays pinball and I I think I have like some good constructive feedback on these games um now that being said guns and& roses has plenty of moments my favorite moment in Guns and Roses pinball uh a few things I love all the album modes that you get to um once you play a song in an album I love my favorite one out of all the album modes is the Chinese Democracy shall we play a game is incredible I love the user Illusion 2 when you fire the cannon and you have to move it and fire and knock down the movie posters I love it all um so yeah I'm um I'm really excited for for um I don't know for for them to like finish TNR maybe maybe try to tackle some of these things I don't think they're going to do it but it is what it is to me Guns and Roses is a game that really shows me like like keir's like stubbornness you know like really like like stubbornly like overdid it and then stubbornly like refused to sort of listen to the feedback and then stubbornly like you know nuked the enthusiasm around the game over time because like he clearly didn't want to like just maybe try a different way with it and it was all coding like all of it was just Co like they could have gone down a different Road and considering how many people own guns and roses I think the fact that they didn't continually polish and listen to feedback on the game and are just like well we sold 5,000 so like we know better than them I think that will always sort of plague um the machine U and even a with the game I'm playing I have the settings not based on kefir or jjp settings I had to go adjust the settings using a pinsiders is like I'm sick gang oh man oh there's people on like Discord now I've got Discord chat I've got patreon chat I've got Facebook chat it's too much I Got YouTube channel going I a YouTube chat it's like just I got to get back to simple the simple way to do canadi pinball podcast I'm gonna do like 10 more minutes gang I'm just like with where my throat's at talking consistently it's not good I'm going to go home a little earlier today I'm going to three-hour drive back home and just go soak in a hot bath I mean if you want to know what can is doing this afternoon it's soaking in a hot bath just recharging um and getting my batteries back and and rest rest and steam are like my favorite things right now so um yeah I'll put more stuff on YouTube I um yeah I think people will discover the show more I think they'll join Canad pinball podcast more and you know I enjoy doing it I um look gang I just want to say like I'm really like thankful for this community as I've watched like a lot of division happen this week people going crazy uh people celebrating people crying uh you know we're all very privileged to be in a hobby where we have like an item that we discuss that is pretty innocuous right it's it's a joyous product it's fun to see with every new game what these companies can do in in such a finite amount of space I um I've been attacked by some of my best friends in pinball this week I've been congratulated by some of my best friends in pinball this week I think I lost a major friendship in pinball this week which was uh really sad for me to to see unfold like that um I'm very highly educated I went to uh private schools I went to boarding school I went to a very good University I went to Lehi University uh I've studied uh with amazing professors and students I've read major like I remember Read Moby Dick I've read Atlas Shrugged I've read like a lot of like the you know the Scarlet Letter like I'm joining Tom you know Tom Sawyer like I I I've read and discussed a lot of literature philosophy and you know my favorite still is the Dow Bradlee Ching and the chi goichi um and I just want to say yes it's all been politically motivated I want to say um if you want to be happy in life you've got to be flexible and you've got to learn to bend and you can't be so rigid right and I think I think the irony in all of it is you know having grown up in the 80s and 990s I remember growing up in a culture in which people seem a lot happier like the music was happier the mood was happier the optimism was happier like kids had childhood kids weren't like on social media uh you know we all went through like we all went through mental health issues as kid part of growing up in adolescence is like just mentally like like struggling through puberty struggling through this struggling at the for you know at prom struggling with what to study what the major how to have a job in the summertime struggling like all of it but like you showed up you know what I'm saying you showed up you you suffered at times and but that suffering made you stronger like it made you have some grid and made you thicker you know and and I think now there's this like there's like this movement to be like if you're a it you're that that you're right and they're wrong for what they did to offend you like to me like I've seen just this disgusting attacking of like comedy and like light-heartedness and sarcasm and then it's like and if you're really really different right if you really want to adopt a different lifestyle they're not going to stop you but that's not enough that that that's no no we're not going to let them just accept you we're going to force them to accept you we're going to force them to put you into their cartoons their TV shows their movies their their classrooms you know their children's books we're going we're going to force all of them to accept how you want to be identified and they have to or else they're racist they're sexists they're bigots they're Nazis they're bullies if they don't accept you however you want to identify they need to accept that or we're coming for them and what happened on Tuesday wasn't necessarily a vote for trump it was a vote against all of that BS and the fact that some people don't understand that still they don't get it they want to fight about it right they want to say like he's going to do this like I just don't want to live in that world anymore I don't want to live in that world I've respected people my whole life i' I've half my friends are gay I'm I'm serious half my friends are gay in New York City um but I have children and I have common sense and I've watched right okay I've watched watched what's happened and who's driving the elitism the elitism it's all again you got understand this it comes down to there is an elite Progressive left movement in America that is driven primarily by people who are not even at the center of like any of those issues or topics and they think they're better than everybody and that look we look you guys know this let's take all of it off the table nobody feels good about feeling small feeling like you you're being told you're stupid you're being told you're not educated because let me tell you what America to me has always been made up of of like really hardworking people some will make it some won't some are dreamers some are not you know but these collar workers that keep everything going and these Elite and I mean this these ivy league Elite of academic world of the media have poisoned the well poisoned it all like the things they they think they're better than everybody and you could see it on their TV shows on their news Pro they think you're stupid you don't know and like I'm going to tell you right what's what's up and they've never right had a hardworking job in their life like these celebrities talking to you about like family Val like what what do what do they know LeBron Jame act LeBron James acting like oh he's struggling to get through this you're a billionaire ridiculous and here's the thing gang I'm I'm a moderate I'm a moderate right I I'm a moderate I don't I don't think the right is accurate on what they did with roow versus weight or abor I hate that like women should have control over their bodies like it's like hard stop like hard stop but what I notice in this election is that they like and I literally have friends who have told me this they think I should have made that the most important issue to me right I'm a I'm a man with a with two beautiful kids a wife I get it she's not GNA fingers crossed ever have to have you know an abortion any any time like you know again or ever right and it's like but that's not the most important issue to me and yet like so I'm not allowed to put the issues that matter the most to me because because they they deem that and you saw it you saw it like there you're an idiot if you could if you vote that way you're just an idiot and I like I'll have this conversation with everybody you know one of my really good friends Greg Colton who's rare hero like I he's to me he is exactly what I love about this country is he he like in 2016 he was on the whole like you're Nazis you're Nazis you're Nazis and now he's like just sees both sides and has like a normal adult conversation about it and he he also sees like how his party Got Hijacked with all these extreme social moves and you know and he understands like why I think the way I think about certain things and we don't always agree right we don't always see eye to eye but we always treat each other with respect and when we talk about these issues we don't leave with the threat of abandoning America or abandoning our friendship and when I talk to my extreme like left friends now how can you say you want what's best for America if an election happens and you want to leave America like how does that if you go to any marriage counselor and you're a just relationship counselor the threat of Abandonment is the number one thing they say to take off the table if you threaten to abandon America and then you say you love America and what's best for America how does that even like connect it doesn't and they're not going to go Sher is not going to leave all these celebrities because these people also now guess what news flash they don't want you and when I mean they don't want you you can't just leave America and go live in another country but you know but we should keep our borders wide open for everyone to roll through here without permission go try and do that in Europe go try and do that in Mexico you couldn't even go down to Mexico you couldn't flee America and try to like legitimately live in Mexico they don't they won't want you you're not going to get your visa you're not going to get your papers just so funny to me it's like yeah I'm all for immigration Legally Legally you come in Legally you pay your taxes legally you don't get to walk into a hospital in America and just give birth that cost tens of thousands of dollars that like all of us have to pay for and you get to get it for free legally no one's no one's exporting anybody and no one's sending people out of the country who are legally here and look if I went right if I put on a $110,000 Gucci suit and I was in Paris and I looked like a million bucks and I'm educated and I'm not causing any problems and I'm spending money at their finest Michelin star restaurants and I'm their past 90 days they don't care you're gone get out get out you're no longer legally allowed to be here I could not buy a house in Ireland let me tell you this true story before we moved to Connecticut we wanted to move our family to Ireland I have an off-the-boat Irish wife she is an Irish citizen she is now a citizen of the United States and I'm proud to say that Brenda voted in this election her first US election I'm so happy she was so excited to exercise her freedom to vote um we wanted to buy a place in Dublin right I made I had enough money to put 80% down 80% down on a expensive Dublin 4 Euro property you know what they said we won't even look at you Chris we won't give you you even the mortgage for the 20% because you don't have a visa to work in this country okay I couldn't get a visa to work in the country because I didn't want to buy I didn't want to move there right away I also my company doesn't have an office there so why can't I just buy this as a second vacation home they're like nope we're not even going to look at you with an Irish wife I mean it's just gang I'm not a monster I'm not a Nazi I've got more diverse friends than probably most people in pinball I live in the most diverse Melting Pot city in the world and you know what I've seen in New York City over the last like few years you know what I've seen I've seen all of a sudden there's guys on the Block I walk my children down all right I've been in that apartment for 23 years only the last last couple years do I see people with you know drug needles sticking out of their neck on my block in Midtown Manhattan I walk into a drug store okay I walk into a drugstore and all of a sudden the entire store is locked up because I saw once a guy walk in there just grab all this stuff and then tell the manager to f off he can't call the cops the cops won't even show up it wasn't like that for the 23 years I was there and you know what if they catch the guy he commits a felony right an armed Rob like he's he's like robbing a place he could slap the manager he could punch the manager in the face right he could commit an assault on the manager he is then going to go and get a nobil court hearing in which he will be back out on the street the same day and guess who pushed for no bail do you think it was the right no it was the left it was the it's it's racist it's unfair to have bail to set bail because they can't afford it it's showing discrimination against those who don't have are these are criminals do you know who goes up to get bail someone who's committed a crime and so they created an entire Ryan Policky that favored the criminals over the victims and if you don't live in New York City and you don't see this stuff on a daily basis then you don't have a vantage and I'm in like a liberal City and I've watched the way they've destroyed it destroyed it it's not the same city anymore it's not it's not as fun to walk around it's not as clean it's not as exciting like the energy is not there so like when you say to me right like I'm a I'm I'm all these horrible things because I didn't vote that way you know walk a mile in my shoes I don't I don't think the Republicans are right on female rights they're wrong on that but it's not the only issue it's not the only issue and the only one who's saying he's going to try to clean this stuff up and fix these problems real problems that people are facing there was only one candidate who said he was actually going to change this stuff now whether or not accomplishes it I don't know but I didn't hear that from her all I heard from her was I'm not him and if you vote for him you're garbage that's it that's it because you know what it's it's the leftist policies that invited the criminals to feel emboldened you know it's so funny to me that like people are like oh Trump's the reason why people are now racist and sexist he's he's Empower it's not Trump who's turned these cities so horrible you know what I'm saying it's like there's only one way you get rid of the garbage in society and that's with laws and consequences if you don't have those go go see what happens go see how safe you feel like walking your kids if you let known felons back out onto the street and for those saying like he's a felon come on he got 46 whatever bogus charges about hush money for like a woman he slept with those were the felony charges right hush money for some extra marital Affair yeah I don't think he's I don't think he's on the moral compass but come on gang the felony a felon that's all you got and you had it all you had it all and the media put it everywhere they put it everywhere they tried to Gaslight the entire nation that this was going to be a super close election that it was going to come down to the wire that you know he had to win Pennsylvania because he wasn't GNA win all the swing States and then what happened like like so like what so all the all the polling all the interviews all the moments you know these elitists on these TV shows were telling us you know how how it was going to go their way and you know what the next day I woke up in America and the Sun was shining it was 80° and I walked by my neighbors who had Harris Walt signs and some had Trump signs and and we all just went about our day nobody was fighting nobody was protesting nobody burned down shops you know and you can tell this is to me this is the Ultimate Reality where was where was the rioting where was the unrest and that is why America's amazing because we are a nation that won't always agree but where was the civil unrest that happened because Donald Trump got reelected it wasn't anywhere I didn't I saw more upheaval about Israel in New York City than I did about Trump and what it goes to show you is that like yeah everyone moans and groans on social media but in the end the reason why nobody's really like going nuts in real life other than Facebook and social media is because you can't make the argument that if he becomes president it's all over because he was already president and it wasn't all over and you survived D and you thrived and you made money and you had you know you had intimacy with your wives and you had your children played Sports and the sky didn't fall yeah some things got more expensive but you survived and it's going to happen again you're going to survive it okay I know this is not about pinball but this is just I just want to say this because I'm extremely disappointed in some of my pinball friends that have you know I I got told by one of them that he wishes he knew how I felt because then he wouldn't be my friend so all those all those years of being a good person to you treating you with respect treating you with hospitality treating you with love and care all of that you're willing to erase me from your life cuz didn't vote for Camala Harris because now I don't fit into your narrative that everybody who voted against her is a Nazi a sexist a fascist that's sad to me and you know what I said to him you're going to end up very lonely it's not Jack danger you're going to end up very lonely because you're going to cut out some of the best people in your life and and then you're never going to see you know you're never going to understand why you know why people feel a certain way so you know look gang the truth is political parties aside it's never been a better time in human history to live as someone of the LGB be QT Community someone to be trans someone to be nonbinary someone to be like whatever you want to be you tell me another period throughout human history where where anybody however you want to live and identify would have had a more opportunity more ability to live wherever you want like you could like you can walk down the street I could go put on a dress and a wig and lipstick and walk down the street and it's like it's fine you know what I'm saying I'm not going to get beat up it's just like like see I just I just get this you know it's it when you turn off all the hysteria that these people want you to believe like the the ending of days that is going to happen if you don't believe the way they believe in things you'll see the real country so I just want to end this show by saying everybody look if you believe in open-mindedness and you believe in intelligent debate and dialogue if you if you believe in community and it's okay that we disagree it's okay I'm not going to if you if you don't think like me I still will respect your right to think the way you think I will never shut you down I will never I I didn't tell anybody who voted for Kamala Harris I hate you if you if you believe in this sign up for Canad bball podcast $5 a month it's only $5 a month it's only we got to get franie in there it's only $5 a month canes pinball podcast it's great you know I disagree with your politics haircut and above ground pool STS um look look I think out of those the the one thing we can all agree on is pool should not be above ground I there's just like you shouldn't be able to take your pool like inside for the winter okay and if you have an above ground pool it's cool but it's not right it's just like come on because it's like it's like the weirdest Flex right it's like is it even a flex I get I get it but why can't you just put the pool on the ground like it's where they go right it's where they go a above ground pool is just a big like hot tub it's not a pool um franchi will join the club one day you made fun of franie last time he was on pinball nerds podcast um I I think franie and I um and pinball nerds is that or orbit Alberts you know like I I think franie is in a good place and I think he's he's happy all right and I think when you're in a good place you you let bygones be bygones I mean I I have no no ill will towards the man I saw him at Expo we had a fun time there I think everybody I know Orbiter Albert always gets mad like oh D you don't know my show like Orbeez is always I I love Orbee he he's like his show is like it's like his microphone is in the shower and and you like you basically get to hear is his like Rambles about pinball in life I love it are there stickers here that you can give me I don't even know like I don't know can I even make money on this thing um like everybody be good to we made it almost you know but you got like about 20 minutes of like my my rant about life but like it's also like this is always what my Show's been about like you're going to get the pinball talk if other stuff is going on in the world I want to talk about it I I don't want there to be uh I don't want you to feel like you don't know me right and and I want you to judge the show and you know the content and I want you to get a little bit more of a a well-rounded expression and I and I think too often we bury too much and we just try like cheerlead everything happening in pinball like well I'm not going to cheerlead like cgc taking three years to make a game I don't want Pope fiction anymore I don't want Dungeons and Dragons as a theme I want I want Back to the Future to be made by Stern I don't think you know Dutch can't make those games we'll see what happens everybody look be good uh I think uh you know I hopefully I'll feel better next week look for to doing more shows we're going to get something soon I think next week we didn't talk about we might see American Pinball's cup head at aapa um that will definitely create conversation uh it's an uphill battle for that game uphill battle for that brand I think the part that I think they don't realize is like we're we're also very loyal to certain manufacturers and you can't you can't lose your your fan your your customer base because of like three or four bad games in a row and then just get it back like look at Maserati like no one buys them they're good cars now but no no one wants a Maserati because there's just no no nobody's into them anymore I mean like G Jersey Jack finally getting online service is like I I can't even give you credit for getting connectivity in 2024 it's like Jersey Jack acts like the internet didn't exist when they when they kick score bit off the platform they didn't really have a backup like it's it's with all the billions of dollars Brett like come on man invest in some coders like stop like throw some of your billions around get get the right team in place there I just I I yeah and part of that's like internet connectivity like we can connect my freaking bird feeder I I mean this when I say this a $200 bird feeder is connected to the internet right it it automatically takes pictures of every bird that flies up to it and it tells me what's what bird it is and I I can buy a $15,000 Jersey Jack machine and it's not connected really $115,000 get that out of here the one thing I liked about Facebook live was reac to comments okay well I mean maybe we'll try it there I don't know I don't know what to tell you guys like all this is like this is all the freebie stuff this is all the freebie stuff like I I don't complain about anything you're getting for free right I mean that when you come here for free and like I just want to get to 800 club members remember franie when it was 500 like if I don't get 500 I'm not coming back we're we're so close to 800 can literally just like 60 of you grab a friend is that it we've hit a ceiling at 740 how is that as far as we can go like each of you just grab a friend let's get to 8800 by Christmas that is the only after a decade of making content for you guys I could have been a billionaire if I focused on crypto and I banking I did I gave you a decade of my life and not can't even get 800 of you to give five bucks a month join it baby join it love you guys love you Christopher Franchi love you all you who are about to watch this and I love all of my Democratic friends I mean it I love all of you I understand why you believe in what you believe in and I don't hate you I don't think you're evil and I don't think you should think I'm that way either I love this country my parents came from nothing you know they worked hard work hard I want my kids to work hard I don't want crime I don't want all this crap I don't want to jam your agenda into Star Wars I don't I don't want to go watch a a cartoon with my kid and he's confused about how the characters are identifying at like you know when he's like four years old I'm sorry not not at that age okay don't block his puberty don't he doesn't know yet I think heck half grown adults don't don't even know yet like come on these are children they want to talk about Paw Patrol you know they tried to cancel Paw Patrol the left they tried to cancel Paw Patrol because Chase is a cop I didn't know this they tried to take down Paw Patrol it's Killian's favorite thing in the world what so it is we don't want a kid to actually look at cops with respect I I like what world like what so what do you want there are some bad cops but most are not so like oh my gosh Chase is amazing how can you take down chase chase is on the case no problem too big no pup too small I mean that's it that's a good message for these kids put the wicked lipstick on oh my God all right gang be good look at this room clean what is that hanging from there I don't that's a light let's go turn that on hold on I don't understand what that is I don't like you know me oh is it not even plugged in I don't even I'm about hiding wires but what's going on here um I'm going to make myself beautiful there she's going to kill me for doing a tour of her bedroom all right cheers everybody there's a good one join Canad spinball podcast how I even end this show let's see I think it's over here yes let's stop streaming before I get myself