Tired, man. All these Winchester people trying to tell me they've got a $20,000 game, man. Nobody, nobody is offering 20K for Winchester right now. But, yo, a couple of these guys think they got something as hot as Pokemon, baby. There ain't nothing, and I mean there's nothing, that I've seen in the 13 years since I've been doing Canada's Pinball Podcast. Nothing. Nothing. That is the freaking demand of Pokemon L.E., baby. L-E alright nobody cares about your premium that they're going to make for 30 years nobody cares about buying the accessories you either got an L-E or you got a pro baby first of all let's talk about all these clowns with these like these guys with these saying that the pros got nothing taken out of the game nothing taken out of the game they took out so much in this pro it's not even funny like it's like no no magnet no ramp that goes up that actually creates the sensation of catching a a pokemon right it's got no pikachu that moves and interacts with the ball as it's tracing it across the play field right there doesn't have the the squirtle like ramp you know the little The whirlpool, like, it literally, they took everything else that really happens mechanically in the game. It's Ellie or bust, baby. And we got Charizard on here right now. You see this? You see this? You see what I'm saying? George Gomez loves this. He was just talking to Gomi. You guys don't get it yet. You still don't get it. Still don't get it. I love it. I love that you're trying to figure it out, trying to figure what's going on in the pinball world. But, baby, like it's a different world now, man. Now that Pokemon is in our hobby, we're collecting gold, baby. Helping friends sell these games for cash, money on the table. I want to talk about all these dealers. You're going after Troy. I'm not going after Troy. I'm just having a conversation on my damn page. And last time I checked, Troy left this long comment on my page. Right. My after my comment about how how he does business and it's cool. Do business that way. But maybe people should read what I wrote. OK, so stop trying to say I'm not trying to go after a man. I know what he makes per elite. It's more than twenty five hundred. Oh, man, you got to bring games to shows. They go without time with their family, go into pinball shows. These people couldn't last two weeks, two weeks in a job with real stress and pressure. They couldn't last two weeks having to come up with stuff out of thin air. I mean, they're literally selling an item that people want. No, that's hard, man. That's hard. How do you do it? And I love my dealer and distro friends, and they all will tell you that they'll be the first to tell you they've got a really great thing going. I mean, let's just stop pretending like these are ER doctors, like these are nurses, like these are firemen or police officers that that need to be protected at all costs. And the good dealers and distros, they have a big backbone and they don't go on. They don't go on and make these like these bold statements. And I want to talk about, you know, what I said specifically in a little bit. I don't think Troy, I don't think Troy is mad. Is Troy mad, Jeff? Where is it? Why would he be mad? The man is making a lot of money selling Pokemon, as is everybody else. So where's the anger coming from? You're not allowed to ask questions. Pinball dealers built the backbone of America. You know, what would we be without direct sales, right? Like, wow, wow. Now, it's funny because the narrative doesn't work anymore. You know, it's like I get that they took the risk on some of these other games, but man. It is what it is. Yeah, this is going to be a year which the issue with pinball in 2026 is basically there's too many good games. There's too many good games. I there's just no way everybody, everybody is going to be able to find room or money for what's coming this year. And the more I hear about what's coming, the more I'm like, man, OK, want it, want it, want it, want it. Right. How many of you out there? But the problem is you want all these things. You add it up. Yeah. I mean, most people can't be dropping 30 to 50 thousand dollars a year on pinball machines, let alone more. And I think it's going to create a real interesting market because we're not used to having five games in a year that you want to buy. It's almost like this hobby. We went through four years of basically crap where there was just maybe one game a year you want it. And I mean that. So you have like four years of like it was easy to pass on most games. Now, in just one year, there's going to be five games you absolutely are going to want to own. so crazy right crazy what's going on everybody i need to go get a cup of coffee hold on one second look at my charizard feel my excitement of pokemon look and for you doubters out there i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you about some of the pokemon deals i'm hearing about and i i love all the the delusional guys out there be like oh the hype's gonna die or k-man doesn't know what he's talking about it's all gonna go down and no it's not no it's not this game is the most adorable pinball machine of all time if you think this game is gonna just go like that you're absolutely wrong you're fooling yourselves and the prices are gonna keep going up i respect troy and mad pinball decision on only shipping to the person who bought the machine it shouldn't be the distributor's problem if you want to change the address because you sold it a problem a problem what's the problem William, how much work is Troy and Jeff doing to change this name for that name? That that's a problem for them. Where's the problem? Oh, I just gave those guys thirteen thousand nine hundred dollars and they made twenty seven hundred dollars like that. And I just want them to change the address. And that shouldn't be their problem. Get out of town. We're going to talk about this. We're going to talk about this. all right we're gonna talk about this let me go get my coffee shouldn't be there it's my game it's my game it's my game Thank you. All right. Are we here? Are we ready to, like, actually talk like grown adults, human beings? Can we just... Let's do this. Let's do this. All right, you ready? You ready for the truth bombs, mofos? Here's the thing. And I think context matters, and I think no one's understanding the context of what I'm trying to say here. So buckle in, people. If you can't do the bare minimum and receive the game before making a bunch of unearned money, that's just lazy and embarrassing. Let's see. Let's check. Let's go right after John, buddy. What's going on, John Ehrlich? If you can't do the bare minimum and – okay, wait, wait, wait, John, John. Why does someone have to, John, John, let me break it down for you. All you mofos right now. I'm about to just stop this childlike behavior. All right, stop it. Wake the up, like wake up, everybody grow up. Let me, let me introduce you to planet earth. Okay. Okay. And stop acting like these things aren't investments at sometimes they are. Stop acting like dropping $15,000 on something that might appreciate or depreciate, appreciate or depreciate is not looked at as an investment. Stop it. Stop acting like children. If I buy Nvidia stock, John, do I have to wait to a physical stock certificate is mailed to me before I sell that stock onto somebody else? Am I not allowed to go into a speculative market and do something speculative? Okay. I have to know what I have to take possession of the game. How many games do I have to play, John, before I can sell it? How many times do I have to rub my ass against the box before it's mine? Okay, this is absolutely ridiculous. Okay, absolutely ridiculous. Let me break it down real simple for all of you mofos out there that don't understand how it should work. You have a game to sell Troy and Jeff and whoever, Melissa, Zach, any, I don't care who you are. you are selling a product. The price of the product is $13,000. I am on a list to buy it. You offer me the game for sale. Okay. Okay. I send you a check or a credit card payment. The moment I am invoiced for ownership of the product and I send you the money and you have now my $13,900. At that moment, Troy and Jeff and Zach and all of you, at that moment, I have now paid for and own that item. You will mail it to wherever the, I want you to mail it. It's now mine. How is it? How is it still now yours to determine what to do? I've given you the money. You have deposited my money. I now own it. Okay. So where in the contract, where in the actual binding sale invoice contract does it say that I'm not allowed to now tell you where I want to ship my game? It's absolutely ridiculous. Okay. It's nobody's obligation to ship it anywhere but the person that paid. Okay, so John, John, I just put $2,700 in Troy's pocket. I put $2,700 in Zach's pocket, Melissa's pocket. And you're saying to me that they shouldn't have to do the work to just change the shipping address. And how many of these guys are even getting the product shipped to them? They're not even getting the damn game, John. They're not even getting the damn game. They are simply sending it from manufacturer to a person. Look, look, my point is this, this notion that these are some like admirable moves. it's just all BS. Okay. It's BS. And it's like there, you know, those dealers. Okay. You know, the other thing is that nobody wants to talk about the unspoken. Okay. So explain to me this, a dealer or distro won't allow me who's, who's paid in full for an item I now own. They won't allow me to do what I want to do with it. But what happens when I pay in full for Star Wars LE with Troy and the game has now lost money, right? He will ship that mofo to anybody. He's only doing this. They're only doing this in moments and when they know that somebody can make a buck. They don't care when you're losing money, do they? Go ask somebody how much Zach is offering them on some of these trade-ins, right? Go ask what a trade-in deal is on a weak title. These dudes will sell you a game for $13, put $2,700 in their pocket, and then six months when nobody wants the game, they're going to offer you like $4,000 less than you paid. Like maybe, dude, it's like comical. They're probably making more money off the margins on the trade-ins. I'm hearing stories of dudes getting offered three grand for F and trade-ins on pros. My point is this. Everybody can eat when a title's hot. But don't, after someone pays in full for something, then think that you can dictate, dictate what they can do with their game. Anyway, the whole thing is stupid because you know what? You know what? This is a good problem to have. And instead of these guys acting all high and mighty, they should be thanking the heavenly pinball gods that there was actually games that are going up in value and stopped acting like lame ass like socialists. I'm serious. They're not they're not preventing anything. As John Rambo would say, you're not changing S.H.I.T. so like just be happy that there's games out there with demand okay because that will make everybody's plate full and if you think there's not dealers and distros like selling these things on the side holding back le's okay think think you live in that world okay that's all i'm saying and look i just want to say this too for you other people out there this is a different topic Like for those of you out there who think that Pokemon LE is going to like settle down around this and that, I'll tell you right now, I have absolute documentation, verification. Games are selling for around $25,000. Games are selling for around $25,000. And people are going to get it. People are going to get it. Now, look, I don't know how many people will get it. I don't know how long that will last. But I'm just saying right now, all I can do is observe what's happening in the present. I don't have a crystal ball. What's up, sad boy? Yeah, no, it's just stupid, man. It's stupid. This whole thing is like, I'm just tired. It's like these dealers should just stick to their last. Like they are literally in such a glorified position. They are literally making money in an outdated business model. And the fact, I'm so tired of like the sympathy, like, oh, the work. Dude, these aren't cops answering domestic violence calls, bro. These are dudes that are drop shipping like 90% of their inventory from A to B, making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. So shut up about like, I don't do this and I bring games. You're supposed to bring games to shows. You're an effing pinball dealer. Like, why should we congratulate you that you unboxed a bunch of games and did all the hard work to set them up and then get paid? What is this? What is this? Let me kick Troy and Jeff a creative brief from one of my clients where there's absolutely no ideas on the table. I don't know what the clients want to buy. I don't know what's going to get the consumers engaged. Go do that. It's a lot easier to unbox a bunch of pinball machines at a pinball show and go home with a bunch of money in your pocket. Jeez. So, John's like, why don't you become a dealer? Because, John, I live in the most expensive area of the country. You know what I'm saying? And name me dealers that are setting up shop in Norwalk, Connecticut, bro, or New York City. All right. Or Greenwich, Connecticut. OK, you understand, John, why? Why a lot of the distribution happens in places that are much cheaper. Yeah, Mike Scott. Why would I go in competition with Mike? Why? He's a good friend. And Mike's Mike's Mike's done very well for himself. He's been in the business for like almost four decades. OK, Mike's made some bad decisions buying too many guns and roses machines, but it's not going to bankrupt him. But, you know, also, Mike's a really good guy. And some of these manufacturers took advantage of Mike. And, you know, again, nobody wants to tell the truth, but they took advantage of the guy. They knew he was over overbuying. They didn't say anything again. Never. He never complains about it. He will never say a bad word about it. But it is what it is. but he's a really amazing person and you should buy your games from automated from melissa those are my friends for those of you saying will they let you be a dealer the only thing they want is money people they don't care like if you have money you can become a dealer like you you gotta write some big six-figure checks, you know, and it's all it comes down to, man. They just want money. There's no like, oh, yeah, like, how do I become a dealer? Yeah, you got to be willing to write a check for $150,000, $200,000 to buy a bunch of like John Wicks, you know, and you might get burned and you might hit it out of the park. My point is, is I want dealers to stick around and do their thing. But just when I give you here's my point, people. But when I when I buy a game from you and I pay in full for it, it's now my game. All right. It doesn't have to be shipped to me. I don't have to rub my ass against the box. I don't have to play 57 games on it and then flip it for twenty five thousand. I've given you thirteen nine. All right. I now own it. Right. What happens if in four weeks Brenda loses her job? I'm not allowed to sell it. Oh, is that is it OK then? Oh, my dog got cancer and we have to do all these treatments. Is it OK then to sell it? See, that's the problem. When you want to start like arbitrarily controlling the market in such a, you know, unnatural way, I bought it. It's mine. Isn't that the easiest way to operate? I bought it. It's mine. And again, this is not a cancer drug. This is not a medicine for people that suffer from diabetes. It's a pinball machine. Oh, you kept it away. What? I kept away what? I kept another bored, rich dude's ability to get it at 13. Cool. So the bored, rich dude can now spend 20 to 25 and get his Winchester, you know, get his like Pokemon Ali. Wow. Wow. You think he's suffering? You think it's unfair? You think that's ruined the hobby? You think that's ruining pinball? You jackasses haven't been in this hobby long enough. Without the FOMO, without the secondhand market, this hobby's dead. And anyone who thinks otherwise is a jackass. And so you should understand that. And now that we've got some hot games again, you all wanna march in like a bunch of baby liberal socialists and complain about it. Wake up, grow up. Without this, pinball is dead. This is simply free market. This is the free market operating. And the fact that Jeff wants to control it, Robin wants to control it Troy wants to control it because they think they doing it for the betterment of the hobby Absolutely not What they are doing is bull S and they know it and they think it some moral decision and they only doing it now because they seeing some people finally after all these years people are finally able to make a buck on top of a pinball machine And they haven been able to for four years And we kept all their candy asses in business all those four years, buying all those depreciating assets. So Jeff and Troy and all of you distributors, I don't see you knocking on the door of your customers that have lost $20,000 buying Stern Elise. I don't see you handing them any refunds at all. And the moment those guys want to make a buck, you're going to stop them. That's bull S-H-I-T. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's only when the days are good that they want to swoop in like these white knights with all their morality. But when the days are bad, they will happily sell you a depreciating game and they won't sell you it at market value. Oh, no, we signed the map pricing. We can't price a game below sticker. That's such BS. OK. ozzy what's up brother with a hundred bucks man you're you're you're like sad boy times two fomo is real i pass on pokey le and got a premium because of it yeah man ozzy it's like it's expensive anyway i'm charged up today people i'm charged up today but look as i said i love my dealer and distro friends and the people i love aren't on social media trying to pretend to be these white knights of morality like some of these other guys. And look, they're allowed to do that. Troy is allowed to do business how he wants to do business. Troy will never sell a game to me because of that. I don't want to buy a game from Troy because of that. All right. I don't I don't want to buy a game from someone who won't let me do what I want with it once I've paid in full. OK, why do I have to like take possession of it? Why is that the why is that like this some sort of Rubicon, like the moral barrier to not being such a dick is like taking possession. OK, cool. All right, John, how many games, John, do you have in storage that you haven't even unboxed in like 15 years? Right. For for your retirement house down in the Carolinas one day. I over John, you know, you haven't played the games. You should give them back because if you're not playing them, you're hoarding those games from people that want to enjoy them. It's the same freaking argument. It's the same freaking argument. It's all these like it's all these lame, like bleeding heart arguments that you're not allowed to do what you want to do with something you bought. If you think this is the dumbest thing I've ever said, then where you been, John? I've been saying the dumbest stuff on this channel for 13 effing years. The dumbest stuff. I heard someone today. And of all the dumb things you've said, Kaneda, this one takes the cake. Well, it pleases me to entertain you as I have the most subscribers in the history of pinball content, one of the most twippies for pinball podcaster. By the way, the twippies are dead. Did you see how many votes number one Harry Potter got? Did you see this joke? I mean, you could say Colin like destroyed the twippies, but then you can actually look at the numbers and be like, he didn't just destroy it. He like lit it on fire, pushed it off an edge and like it like blew up and got eaten by a great white shark. I mean, the literally he only got like two hundred and like 60 votes for game of the year. Harry Potter only got two hundred and sixty three something first place votes. When I won favorite pinball podcaster a few years ago, I got like six hundred and eighty just for the podcast category. The game of the year was getting like three to five thousand votes. So, man, what a what a what good job, Colin. You did it. You did it, baby. You did it. You ruined the very thing you acquired. What I thought the guy worked in marketing and he took the thing off the edge. Look, I love you guys, and I just want to tell you this right now. You know what I love about this hobby is my friends. I can't name their names. Friend number one just sold a Pokemon Ali for twenty five thousand dollars. He just sold a Pokemon Ali for $25,000. He paid $13,000. The buyer is super happy. He's obviously super happy. And that upsets a lot of you. And I'm not really sure why. Can you explain to me why that is upsetting to anyone here? What business of any of yours is that transaction? Why does that upset you? what's up jeff jeff man i want you to mail my game to p.o box s t f u brother let's do it i will only mail it to the person whose name is on the receipt uh-huh cool man mail it to my house and then I'm going to mail it back to the drop ship warehouse you get it from. You don't even take possession, bro, of your Pokemon LEs, do you? Do you, Jeff? Do you, Jeff? How much work did you do for each $2,700 Pokemon LE you sold? I would love to hear, Jeff, how much work you did. You probably, you know, come on, tell us. All right. We'll wait. We'll wait. Here we go. Explain to us how much work you did. you didn't even hook Don up with an LE bro and he's like the dude has given you more exposure and more PR than anybody and you didn't even hook your own buddy up with an LE you had to send Don asking oh Canada's hot they're gonna come to Ohio and then what why why do they have to come to Ohio Jeff why do they have to be shipped twice explain that to me can you explain that to me jeff why do they have to be shipped twice is that is that even like make any sense something has to be shipped twice here we go why why does it have to go from chicago to ohio back so if i buy pokemon i'll leave from you and i live in chicago the game's going to go from chicago to ohio to chicago we don't hook people up we go in order okay so jeff do you take lists before a game is announced i don't know you know like it's just let's talk about let's talk about pokemon you know you dealers do do your dealing do your wheeling and dealing i'm glad i'm glad i'm glad you guys are getting getting some good sales going you know don't don't don't mistake me for someone who's not happy you guys are crushing it all right so yeah but start but jeff come on we know that you can get the game sent to you know to the warehouse and it can go from there it could if you wanted it to it could you know you You can you can you can arrange that. OK, so here's the deal. Here's the deal. Let's talk about let's talk about some stuff happening right now. So one of the things that I'm fascinated about right now. Is the the trades that people want to do. And I think there's there's one fair trade happening right now that's that I would argue is probably the fairest. which is this a winchester pokemon elite trade to me is is i think as even of a trade as it gets but here's the thing i still think right now and again this is just this week i still think pokemon is worth about three to five thousand more than winchester the reason i'm saying that is this I have a few people in my ear. I have a few Winchester owners that are saying that they're getting offers of $25,000 for Winchester. And yet I have a friend who is selling a Winchester for $20,000. I haven't had a single person inquire about it. I haven't had a single person hit me up. And come on. I mean, I've got a few thousand people that read everything on Facebook. I've got another like thousand or so people on Patreon. And I'm also like, I'm not going to burn anybody. Like this isn't like a shady deal with Canada. And I'm just saying zero people have offered 20,000 for Winchester. Okay. Ken, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny. He still thinks the loudest in the room. Kenny, you're in my room on my page. I want to I want to. Ken is a guy. Ken, thank you for chiming in. Ken, Ken's one of these guys who disagrees with everything I say, yet he's here every single day. He's my favorite kind of like audience member. Ken, can you can you take a bow for everybody here? You know, because here's the thing that's funny, Ken. Do you think I go to people's pages that I don't enjoy? Do you think I hang out in people's homes that I'm not friends with? So I just want to say you're welcome for occupying so much of your time and commentary over the years. You don't contribute anything to Canada's Pinball Podcast other than your opinions, which is fine. You've never shown any support to Canada's Pinball Podcast, and yet you are here every single day, every weekend. And I appreciate your presence. Thank you. And look, I just gave you a little bit of the show for free. And I just want to say, Winchester, right now. So, okay, let's talk about the other side of this, which is going to, okay, nobody knows. Let's just be candid here. Nobody knows what will have the more long-term value. The reason why I still think Pokemon LE will hold value even though there's going to be all the premiums even though there's going to be all the pros it's still pokemon and when you want to compare the popularity of pokemon to winchester as just a theme gang it is millions to one in terms of the gap so i still think you're the pokemon le's because they're so much nicer than the premiums and there's no way you can make a premium look as nice as the le there's just no way it's still gonna hold way more value than winchester ever does now this is why i with the winchester owners to me i know i've been a little extra cranky and strident because i and this is just i'm gonna be candid the owners are kind of annoying i gotta be honest they're kind of annoying like they think they have this like game everybody wants. And I get there's some wanted ads for Winchester. But raise your hand if you if each of you could have got a Winchester in the 48 hours before it sold out. Right. We all did. We all could have got one. The only reason people now want one is because they can't have one. If it was like a thousand of them, they'd still be available. If it was 800, they'd still be available. So let's not let's not call this like, oh yeah man the demand is because the game is insane and the theme is something i've been dying to have it's because they made so few of them and look a good decision for david probably a difficult margin game to make money on with so few of them and also like you know dune came up 300 units short of what they were anticipating so i i just think it's like what's up calvin cal you missed a lot you missed the heat babe you have to go back and watch from the beginning we've got uh what happened was earlier is that troy and jeff came on and said canada you're right if you pay in full for a game it should be yours to do what you want to do with and if you want to send it to another address charge me 50 bucks charge me 100 hours but don't say you'll never send it to anything other than the address on the the bill of the game that i paid in full for i paid in full if i pay in full for this house i can let anybody come live in it I don't you know, look, these guys, they just they crack me up because, you know, they do it like in the threads like I don't do my. Yeah, cool. Cool. World's smallest violin for these dealers and distros making so much money and then pretending like it's backbreaking work. OK, cool. Yeah. All right. How many you know, what are you doing on a random Wednesday? OK, talk to me. Talk to me about random Wednesday. How much time away from your family you have to do to sell pinball machines? Oh, but no one can ask questions like this. Last time I checked, all my dealer and distro friends are living high on the hog, have a really great life balance, and they're not complaining. What they're not doing, though, like some of these other guys, is they're not chiming in on Facebook to act all morally superior to the people who are actually buying the products. That's what they're not doing. Okay. Jeff, it's not worth it to write paragraphs. Okay, buddy? It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You should do a show. You should do a podcast. You should do the first pinball podcast from a dealer's perspective. I think that would be an interesting pinball podcast. I really do. Kale's got what it's like for an operator. Kaneda's got what it's like for an intelligent college graduate perspective. um you know i know zach does it from a from a dealer perspective but you know i mean i guess that would fill that void but i just think it'd be interesting but i don't know i just don't always trust what they say either because it's like everything's always it's always the best game ever it's the best sales ever look 25 g's for pokemon right now i think winchester if you want to move on is like at like 18 hard to say where these things are going to go right because right now there's no supply of either there's like 20 winchesters in the world so far and there's no pokemon so let's talk about it like what do you think pokemon le i'm curious what you guys think what do you think pokemon le in the end of april will be going for okay because because by the end of April, all 750 will be made. And we all know that all those are not going to end up in hands of guys that love Pokemon. We also know that it is a simpler game. I mean, there's going to be dudes who like are jumping from Godzilla and King Kong and, you know, Jaws and Batman and Elvira, And they're going to jump on this and it may feel like, whoa, like, what is this? There's not enough here. William. William. William, let me ask you a question, William. Where are you buying? Where are you buying Ellie? Ellie artwork? Can William said you can convert a premium to an Ellie? William's like the kind of guy in high school. Remember those kids? They would put like an M badge on their BMW when it was like a 318, right? William, you can never convert a premium into an LE. Like just – let's just stop there. You can never make a premium into an LE. Okay, I don't even understand. You're not going to get the decals. Where are you going to get all that? Where are you going to get the decals? Where are you going to get the armor? Where are you going to get the Pokemon, Master Ball, Shooter Rod? Where are you going to get all this stuff? You're just going to wipe. But like then you actually have the dumbest thing ever. It's like when people put Batman SLE decals on a regular Batman LE or I think that's like the lamest thing to move. It's like fake breasts. It's like fake breasts. Why do you want to have a fake version of something? Think about how sad that is. every time someone asks you oh you got an le uh not really i just i'm just you're a poser like why do you want to be a poser yeah like and ozzy we all knew those kids who put the amg badges on non-amg cars like being a to me like being a poser is is sad is the saddest existence bro like So like just just you just got to recognize that there is no there is no reality other than the Ellie's are going to go up. But I ask you guys a question. What do you think a Pokemon Ellie will be worth? OK, let's just say new in box at the end of April. OK, all of them will be made. All of them will be out there. What do you think Pokemon Ellie would be worth? Let's forget about the past of what we've been talking about. 139 people over here. Okay, we've got 25 people on Facebook. I want to read your answer. So Ozzy says 20K. Merck said 25. All right, you guys really are bad with answers. Dylan, I didn't say you're a poser for modding a pinball machine. I said you're a poser for trying to turn a premium into an LE by buying LE decals. I don't know if you heard that part, but yeah, that's being a poser, bro. All right, we got more answers finally. 10K, man, no way. 12 to 15, I don't think so. 20 to 25, I think that's high. 15 to 17. I think that's going to be more like it. I think the $17,000 to $18,000 range. Adrian said $35,000. See, the reason why I don't, I just, I still just don't think, it's really hard for anyone to throw $20,000 or more in a pinball machine. The other part that's hard is this, is that the Stern machine itself just doesn't look that expensive. It's really hard to spend anything north of 20 on a stern. Okay. And so I think the 18 to 20 is, I think 18 is right around. I think you'll get some people that might spend a little bit more. I think it's going to depend on how many games go up for sale, how consistently they go up for sale. because remember, that's what creates the second wave or third wave of FOMO, right? Right now is usually when FOMO is the strongest. There's zero supply and there's demand. So everyone's trying to come through the door. The door is not even open yet. And 750 people have tickets to the movie. They'll sell you their movie ticket. You're guaranteed, right? You're guaranteed you're going to get into the movie. You know, people pay a lot because they think no one else might offer it up for sale. So whatever sales are happening now are typically the highest. It's very rare that you have that initial FOMO wave purchase not be the height. Now, again, I'm going to bring up a game that is really interesting to look at through this lens, and that is Evil Dead. And that, you know, Evil Dead did not have, it did not have the beginning hype. It did not have the beginning sellout. It did not have the beginning scalp. Remember, Spooky couldn't even sell out of Evil Dead in like two months of it being on sale. It's an interesting, right? It's an interesting example. That was a game that had a second life. Once they all sold out and there were no more, Joe Newhart bought the last 25. Then the prices started to go up and up and up. People started to see it at shows. People started to want one. it did what David David Van Es wants Dune to do. You know what I'm saying? That's why like when you look at Dune, it's like, you know, it's too early to tell. Dune might be able to have a little bit of that evil dead run where once there's no more and once they're all spoken for and once people aren't giving them up, then the price just goes up and up and up. And it's fun to watch, you know, and it's very hard for that to happen. it's very hard for that to happen. You know, we really don't see that very often. And so I think with you know when it comes to like Winchester once all 450 are out in the world it going to be interesting to see Is it 450 or 540 It 450 right Why did I get like 540 in my head? Is it 540? 525? 525, that's right. Sorry, I knew it was like the address of the house. Once all 525 get out into the world, you know but all these are good problems to have i don't know about you guys i i just i just know what's coming this year and let's just like let's just do a roll call harry potter beetlejuice transformers g1 sonic the hedgehog those are four titles that a lot are you going to want to have? Pokemon. OK. Back to the future is coming out this year. Six games. Wow. Six games. A lot of you really going to want Goonies will be announced this year. All the Goonies will be sold this year. They're already sold. Fallout. OK. Okay, that's eight kind of awesome games. From there, probably a new game from CGC, American Pinball, Turner Pinball. We're going to get, I mean, right there. So Transformers is going to crush. I'm super excited about that game. I've been up since 3 in the morning, people, 2.30. So it's amazing that I brought the energy on this. Look, I just want to say I do thank you guys all for hanging out here. I mean, look, you come here for a reason. I'm going to do a show that's not just about pinball. I'm going to do a show that's not just about flipping and scalping. I'm going to do a show that's got some other realness to it. You want some real, real? For those of you who don't like me or hate me, Let me – because I could go on that pedestal and try to get sympathy and support, but I won't. But today is a sad day in my family. And today we – I'm trying to think now. I'd say three years ago. Two. Three years ago today. We had to make the extremely difficult decision to early terminate a baby who had a very, very serious condition in the womb. Right. So this was three years ago today. And well into the second trimester. And so, you know, when I go downstairs and I see my wife and I see Killian and I see like Cassian and Cassian wouldn't be here if it weren't, you know, His brother, Kian, who we named him, God rest his soul, and he's up there waiting for us. It's tough, right? So all this stuff, this is the distraction. This is the fun. This is the hobby we love. But when I think about being able to make $10,000 and put it aside or $15,000 on a pin scalp to put it aside for my boys in the future, I don't really feel bad. I don't feel bad because the guy you got, it's rich. I just got a little bit of his millions, right? But I'll tell you the hardest part. And, you know, downstairs when you lose a child, you – you know, when they did this, I was like, man, like I've never, like never. You want Waterworks Canada? Like I've never had more just like carnal, emotional crying than when they give you – they ask if you want it. They take the footprints of your baby and they give it to you as a way to remember them. It's like downstairs, like in a frame. We have like a little bit of like a tribute area with like people we've lost. So that was three years ago today. So it's – life is short. And I really do think that this hobby – and I mean this when I say this. And I talk to people about this like, you know, I'm here to entertain you. It's entertaining. You know, I just it was nice hearing from Gomez this morning. I sent him some pictures of Killian with his like Charizard and he loved it. And all the good vibes that have happened the last week from this hobby, you know, between Friday and this Friday, the amount of good energy and good vibes and positivity that has happened in pinball over the last week is infectious. and when you see the people and their response to pokemon their response to like pinball in general people coming into this hobby in droves it's so exciting and when you just see the excitement people have for a theme that's finally just adorable it's cute it's not that you know it's not more dad rock it's not more of the same it's it's like so refreshing and i think a lot of people are feeling that and you you know you've still got like the old curmudgeon-y men who are like like incapable of like warming up to it. But I really feel the opposite. And, you know, I had someone write, I think it was, was it Cody or someone that, someone wrote like, I wish the old Kaneda could talk to the new Kaneda and he would just like destroy him. You know, he's like, you're now a Schilfer Stern. You're now pumping and dumping Pokemon, which by the way, Pokemon Ellie is making its way into this household. I know my game number. I know my game number. I am Pokemon. You ready for it? It's going to make everybody laugh. I have Pokemon number 50 coming into this household. Okay? And so, like, it's like I basically, you know, when I've, you know, so he's like, I want the old Kaneda to fight the new Kaneda. And I'm like, well, let me, I don't know, like, let me think about that for a minute. The old Kaneda was going on drunken rants, was doing Pinside Babies, was screaming like a lunatic for free with 5,000 people listening. I made no money. I was just like a court jester. I was still banned from Pinside. And, you know, I don't know. Like, I think I've been very balanced. and I think the new me I got diglet I'm so happy I have diglet uh I think the new me I think the new and again like I don't think there's like new and old I think we just evolve and adapt and you know we're all men stuck for the most part in a state of arrested development but I I think the show's better than it's ever been I think these lives are better than they've ever been. And I think the conversation is better than it's ever been. And I think I've put more positive energy out into the pinball community. And I think I've been paid back. I believe in that. I believe in karma. I have met some of my best friends through pinball. I am not alone and will never be alone because I'm into something I love and I get to exercise my love for this hobby every single week in a creative way. And it makes me feel very happy and having friendships all over the world and having people tune in all over the world. And it's not like a huge audience. It's not a lot of money, but it's the most fulfilling money I've ever made in my in my life. And it's it's it's I feel proud to say that. And again, like, you know, I really do think only things I've ever like really sucked was like losing certain friends in this hobby for weird reasons. And and I but you know what? When those people and I mean this, when those people leave you and abandon you, they were never good friends in the first place. And I believe that, too, about life is you're not supposed to abandon your friends who have done things for you for years, and you don't just give up on people because maybe they might think Maybe because they think differently than you. And that's the most painful thing to sometimes realize is that some people that you invest a lot of time in, you probably shouldn't. And we all have those kinds of friends, right? People that you've given an inordinate amount of your time, energy, and sometimes money, and then all of a sudden you realize that they're never going to reciprocate and they're never going to treat you. the way you deserve. And we all should, I mean, it's like the people we pick, both our partners and our friends and our family, super important. I do need a Diglett top room. They don't make a Diglett chain. I bet I could go on Etsy and get a Diglett chain. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Here's the other thing I wanted to talk about in this episode. And again, this has been a fun show, by the way. Thank you so much. You guys warm my heart every single week with this show. And thank you guys for all the donations. As Ozzy knows and Sad Boy, your $150, it goes to the most valuable person on the planet in my world. And it buys the most amazing thing on the planet. And that is sake. And so your $150 will buy Brenda a nice bottle of sake tonight and she will drink to the point where she doesn't want to have sex with me. And that is a beautiful thing because I don't need more kids right now. I love you guys. I want to talk about something I've seen lately. I want to talk about something I've seen lately. I've seen this weird sort of thing happen around Beetlejuice I think that there's a lot of and it's not a lot I think there's like a little bit of people just impatient and I think when you're impatient you want to be part of the latest hype thing so that is why I think people who are So, you know, people who are in on Beetlejuice, here's what I think is happening. Because there's going to be 999 Beetlejuices plus 80 show games, I think a lot of people that are like a year away or eight months away, they're like, all right, well, I'll see if I can like make a few bucks on top of my game and I want to trade it for something else or want to scalp it. Right. I think there's like four or five. But it's funny because one of my members on the Patreon chat, JC, good guy, he's like, oh, man, the market's flooded with Beetlejuices for sale. And I'm like, flooded? There's five out of 1,000. How is that flooded? He's like, yeah, but like – I get what he's saying though. And when there's like five games for sale and none of them are moving and you've got all these guys at 18 firm, you know, and then some dude just sold a spot for thirty five hundred. Yeah. Like you're way off on that eighteen thousand dollar number. You know, it just it just doesn't work. And. A thousand's a lot for now, you know, but look, I think here's here's my advice to everybody. because pokemon hype is through the roof does not make beetlejuice less of an amazing game and i think beetlejuice is good is iconic it is culturally iconic the game looks incredible all the reports i've heard from people at pinball at the beach have been incredible and i really do think that your beetlejuices are going to be spectacular additions to your game rooms and if you sell it now for just a little bit of money i think you're really going to regret it because i think beetlejuice is going to go higher than evil dead again i just think that people are getting impatient and they it's like winchester hype doesn't make beetlejuice less of a game and same with pokemon all right and oh by the way i gotta be right back give me give me give me two minutes i gotta show you something Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, look at this. Look at this outfit. I absolutely love it. I mean, bug in loop, baby. I mean, I saw this at the beach and I was like, look, man, I this is. Like, I just I'm going to have to get the shorts maybe taken up an inch. You know, I like it a little a little more fashionable. But I mean, the material leaves a lot to be desired. But then I love this kit. No one's going to have this. Nobody. This is like Ralph Lauren purple label. Cool. Ah, so awesome. I love it. I love it. Love it. Love it. ah yeah jamie baby jamie jamie i just yelled jamie for an hour can i just say like i've got a few like favorite pinball chats going on ralph jamie and kale i mean we're doing it we're doing it like when we're talking We're talking, you know, there's like it literally. And when we we probably never have anything truly important to say. But when we connect, it's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like an unspoken language. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're doing this. We're doing it. Like, that's all we do. We like call each other and we're like, are we doing this? Are we doing it? Let's do it. Let's do it. But we don't even have anything to do. And that's the beauty in that kind of friendship. We're doing it. Are we doing it? Are we doing it, Jamie? We're doing this. We're getting Ralph. We're getting Ralph. It's like half the time we're just trying to see if Ralph will pick up. Dude, it's good, man. The good vibes, baby. Like, we're all feeding off of it. And that's what's beautiful about this hobby, man. We're just feeding off of the good vibes. And the people on the outside looking at me like, why does anybody listen to that guy? He doesn't even play pinball. You think I need to play pinball to make pinball exciting? Okay, so here's the thing. I'm more exciting than pinball. You realize this. And I'm free every Saturday morning, 10 to 1130. We'll see you. It's like all Canadian. You know, like, why do people? Yeah, I love it when you on pin say, why do people give K-Man money? Why? Uh, check it out, mofos, because last time I checked, ain't nobody this unhinged making pinball content. You don't need to play pinball to understand pinball. I don't need to look out the window to know the way the universe works. That's the beauty. It's like some Lao Tzu stuff. It's like Tao Te Bradlee Ching, baby. It's like, close your eyes, and I'll tell you what. every pinball machine in the future looks like. You have to understand this. Okay. You have to understand we are, the rumor is big trouble in little China, baby. Oh, it's coming. It's coming. People are talking. People shouldn't be talking, but they're talking. I have a word of advice for everybody in these pinball manufacturers. Just shut up. if you want to keep something a secret the best way to do it is shut up it's real easy real easy shut up well i hope it's not the homebrew game but because that game's not that's not enough of a game like that that's not enough of a game there's like nothing in that game i mean i've seen it i've stood over it it's it's neat it's a neat homebrew but that's that you can't bring that to market like you need more mechs you need more magic you need more stuff in it it's not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough. American pinball, baby. I talked to Melvin today. You know, again, my advice to AP is simply this. Guys, you got to get in a room. You got to get in a room. I told Melvin, like, I'll fly over there. I'll meet with you guys just as like a consultant. They got to get in a room, though. What's up, Nick, brother? you gotta get in a room and you gotta really think about what do you want american pinball to be what kind of company do you want it to be i love the people that might have like tuned this off like a half hour ago they're gonna come back like what the heck just happened yeah it's like spooky bomb exploded on me they need american pinball needs to establish what kind of company they want to be they got to lose like the ai generated logo they got to stop like i i i was just my advice to Melvin was you need to like all get in a room and ask what kind of company do we want AP to be? How do we want it? Like, what's our angle? What's the white space? What's the future look like? Stop talking about the past. I don't know why you're making Valley Classics. I just I worry that it's like the vision is not figured out and yet they're already out there talking. i mean big trouble has been a rumor for a while we'll see i i don't think it's next though i think never ending story is next i i think it's gonna go never ending story then possibly that game so we'll see i don't i don't know i don't know all i'm hearing is rumors but here's the thing is like once people start calling me up and telling me this stuff i jason knapp wrote about it it's it's out there it's out there chris l pinball pokemon Oh, my God, Chris. Okay, so Chris is trying to trade a Beetlejuice for a Pokemon. And it's like the dumbest trade ever because Beetlejuice is worth, right now on the market, Beetlejuice is worth about $10,000 less than a Pokemon LE. Like literally 10 grand less. He is getting zero offers for that trade. it's a $10,000 gap. And right now you know Pokemon Ali seems unobtainable and Beetlejuice is easy to obtain The thing is once and I mean this once five Pokemon LEs go up for sale around then they're going to go down to $18,000. Because once we feel, oh, they're available, the FOMO dissipates quickly. Right now, there's one dude that he wants $25,000 for with his misleading $12,000 over offer. ... can we i i talked about it earlier but i the the amount of stuff that they're yanking out of pokemon premium for the pro i i don't understand why people keep saying the pros pack the pro is not they've taken everything out yeah you get to meow it but that's it everything else that's cool is taken out there's not much in the game but everything else you're gonna miss the magnet action you're gonna miss the pikachu track in the ball you're gonna miss the the the whirlpool You're going to miss you. You miss the sneak around. You also miss the ramp. There's like there's like six things they took out. This is they took out more than people realize. And it's crazy to me that people think they didn't take much out. I don't know, man. I love Pikachu sitting with Eevee on the side art. You know, it's crazy. This is one of Zombie Yeti's nicest art packages. He didn't even draw anything. He laid it out with his daughter. I think they did an amazing job. I wrote a nice note to Jeremy. He didn't get back to me. I think he's still mad at me. He's still mad at me. Maybe I should text him back when he texted me at like 1243 in the morning. Still got the text. It's really like hard to stay mad at Kaneda, isn't it? I find it hard to stay mad at myself. I tend to forgive myself on a daily basis, and the past is the past. You know what I'm saying? Why would we hold on to anger? What good does that do for anybody? What kills me is the five Meowth right next to one another. A lot of Meowths, huh? Yeah, I think that's going to be mod number one. Here are the mods that the Meowth balloon, someone's going to mod it so that it looks like a basket and not like a cheap rubber thing. I agree. Come on, Stern. If you're going to do a sculpt, finish the balloon. So that's going to be a mod. Where there's the Pokeball, there's that red plastic with the four different modes or with all the screws, someone's going to mod that. right we're definitely going to get i i think tasteful mods are going to make pokemon look really good don't overdo it don't there's a there's a lot of pokemons don't start sticking them everywhere as stern it was tps's choice where they didn't use the original theme song yeah the pinball company sorry the pinball company the pokemon company wanted them to use the more modern visuals and audio. I have not seen the topper. I think it's going to be the fish, though. I think it's going to be like a throwback to fish tails. I think Jack alluded to that. I think it's going to be so funny and campy. We're all going to want it, is what he said. He said it's super awesome. And I will be setting up, for those of you, Pokemon number 50. I've got Diglett. And it comes end of March. the goal right now is to have automated set up my pokemon mike i'm not mike frank's gonna send a couple of of the the crew and we're gonna wrap up gnr ce take it down the stairs and then bring pokemon i mean i might ask him if to come get so we don't have to do it all in one hall If we can come maybe pick up GNR sooner, I'll pay for it. Yeah, it's funny. I'm getting into Pokemon. I'm really enjoying it. I don't know enough to be, like, upset that they got stuff wrong. Like there's no Jesse and James in it. I'm like, well, you know, such then the breaks, you know, I don't know. Like, you know, to me, like Jesse and James are it's kind of like Soundwave and Starscream. Right. It's like you remove the two characters that are like the main meow with sort of sidekick that everybody loves. It's a huge omission from the game. I think more of like the diehard Pokemon fans are like, man, there's no Ash and there's no Jesse. There's no James. Like they literally don't have the three main characters that everybody who grew up with Pokemon love. No, it's not. It's not. But what I really hope this game does is dials up the charm. So, for example, like they need to have like a Jigglypuff mode where Jigglypuff is singing. How awesome would this be? It's a Jigglypuff timed mode where Jigglypuff is singing. and the more Jigglypuff sings, the more parts of the game start to fall asleep. Just think about that for a minute. Like things start to turn off, like the pop bumpers go, then the Meowth sort of falls down and falls asleep. Pikachu starts snoring in his Pika language. You know, the flippers start to get weaker. It'd be amazing. Yeah, I mean, why is it not possible? Is Jigglypuff not in season 10 through? See, that to me is the potential Achilles heel of this game. If they don't really inject more moments of magic and side things to do and campiness into it, and it simply becomes a chopping wood to catch different Pokemon. And then once you catch them, you have them, you don't lose them. If the whole game is just to try to get the Pokemon caught on your Insider Connected Index, and that's it, and it's always the same way to collect the Pokemon, yeah, the game's going to get boring and wear thin quickly. and i think what's going to be interesting is just down the block jersey jack pinball i believe is going to release sonic the hedgehog that's going to have player versus player online play so for the first time ever we're truly going to get at scale because i know jerry's got an mp3 but nobody's like nobody has that i think you're going to be able to play play against your friends online in real time and that's going to be a game changer like no other that's really going to change pinball forever more than insider connected more than wi-fi code downloads more than the ability for for us to play our friends and you and use the camera so you can see you know they don't even need a mic you can see who you're playing against you can see their facial expressions as you're beating them and competing with them. It's going to be amazing. How are you guys doing otherwise? How are you guys doing otherwise? You guys doing all right? I went to the chiropractor yesterday. I got my, you know, I don't think it was my sciatica. He didn't say it was the sciatica. What he said it was, was like it had a long name. It was it's the muscle on the outside of my leg. Basically, I've got weak muscles on my legs where you're like pushing outward. And like if I if I need to like pull my legs in, I'm very strong. But it's like the outward like butterfly motion, very weak. And so what happens is like during COVID, when you're working from, there's a reason office chairs are ergonomically designed to give you the right kind of support to sit in them all day long. He's like, what's happening is everyone's sitting in like dining room chairs and on their couches in the Indian position for like hours a day working from home. And that is what is causing the pain. And so he gave me some stretches. oh man I went and he put me under with like the like stuck those like electric heat warming patches on me like three of them or four of them and just started like stimulating and rubbing the muscle to sort of take away some of the the irritation it was amazing so yeah reverse hyper machine uh is that the one like that like should I go like that like is that the one I want where like you put your legs in and you're pushing out. I will say like, I'm going to, you know, use my insurance while I got it. And I was texting me or DM me like what machine I should do. Cause I need to know I'm going to the gym after this, but he showed me like the lie on your side. And, and you know, You do like the clam exercise where you're opening up your legs and it really does like just it just like targets the exact area. I know it's just weird that we're literally our bodies were not meant to sit still for all these hours. And I never had this pain before in my life. Now, that being said, I probably do end up skipping leg day more more so than not. And I got to get better at that. But, you know, today is like going to be Ozzy, man, let me know because I'm going to go to the gym and I'm going to today is like bicep and tricep day. So it's like fun. But I should have gone sooner. You know, one of the stupid things I did with this was I just let it linger. It's just something weird about whenever you're in pain, like we just kind of like wait it out. it's like not the way to do it like go go we have insurance for a reason like go go see someone who's a specialist what gym do you go to i go to the very cheap crunch for $19.99 a month do you have to carry what's up brother who's played poke who's played pokemon here anyone played it I've only heard good things. I haven't heard anybody jump on it and say, eh, it's kind of boring. It's kind of, you know, it's kind of basic. I haven't heard anybody say that. I keep hearing everybody say it's so much fun. Thanks, Ozzy. I got the text. Oh. Yeah. I can feel exactly where it is. It's literally right below my hip, right at the top of my leg. And it's just the bullseye. Just, oh, yeah. You know what I used to do a lot of is yoga. And yoga helped avoid all these kinds of injuries. Because yoga, you're like using all these muscles for stability. and it really, really helps with the stretching and everything. Reverse hyper is a game changer. All right. Dude, Cal's in great shape, baby. I mean, Cal will kick all of our asses. Cal's my secret muscle when I go to shows. If someone's going to try to mess with me, Cal will like UFC take them out. And Cal, I'm a lover, not a fighter, baby. Look at me. I walk through a show. I need to figure out Expo this year. I've got to figure out. I'm not going to put up with this threats from certain individuals that get me kicked out of the show this year. This is dumb. This is dumb. I'm literally not going into a show to cause any problems. Cal was there last year. I don't want to get threatened, though, by people. I didn't do anything. I'm just there to enjoy the show. What's up, Mike? Okay, man, mad respect. I try to keep it real, man. Secret muscle is for the hotel room. Seated hip abduction machine. No, not doing TPF, man. I only have so many days off. I'm actually going to be going to maybe Chicago Monday through Wednesday. I was going to hit up some people there. I don't think I'm going to get out, though. Like, the snow's coming, so I'm supposed to be in Chicago Monday night. I was going to hit up Jack Danger and maybe a few other people there, see if they want to get some dinner. But I don't know. It's supposed to snow. I think they're going to cancel all the flights. Being fairly new to this hobby, I've noticed that there are a F-ton of gatekeepers. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, D.R., you're going to realize in this hobby. You're going to realize in this hobby, there's just a lot of babies. Right. And I mean that when I say there's a lot of babies, there's a lot of guys that like Robin's one of them and a lot of hypocrites, a lot of people that can dish it but can't take it. A lot of people that think they're doing some like moral human justice by, you know, take down this, take down scalping, take down the secondhand market. It's just the whole thing is stupid. The whole thing is stupid. And, you know, whenever they do surveys, should we just leave it alone? Everyone always the predominant vote is leave it alone. Wait until you see what the chat warriors look like. I mean, when you get new to this hobby. It's not even like woke gang, it's like just weird. I don't even think it's woke. I think sometimes people lose sight of what we're all here to do, which is just have a good time, hang out, and talk about something that the rest of the world thinks is stupid. When you actually understand that that's what we're doing. Well, the reason, Mike, the reason I think Evil Dead, he was talking about, I think once all these Beetlejuices are made, Evil Dead prices are absolutely going to come back down. like reality gang it's a lot of money man like even when i paid for pokemon it's like 13 000 like 900 like all right is this really the best use of that money you know all right i mean i kind of have to buy a game or two a year to offset the taxes i pay for my podcast because it is deductible for that. I think Pokemon's going to settle around 18. You know? I don't think it's going to go lower than that. I don't know. Even as I say 18, I still think that could be too low. I've never seen demand like a game like I have for this. when was the last time you guys saw a stern le sell out like this before it was even even shown when was the last time you saw it was impossible to get a stern le the day it was revealed when was the last time this is ghostbusters batman that was 10 years ago so i i don't know like when was the last time metallic remastered le sold out but you know it was like two days but but i don't know that game kind of is already back down to reality. Well, I don't think you're wrong, DR. Is it DR? DR Pinball, Dr. Pinball. I don't think you're wrong because I do. The reason why you kind of want to sell right now, I agree. There's a lot of guys I know that want to flip this thing. I mean, for profit. I think they're all going to try at the same time. And that's why I think it's going to – you're not going to get 25. You're going to get like 18. I don't think there's any listings, Ozzy. I don't think there's any listings right now. Are there more than one listing now? Sonic or Goonies, which will be better? I think I think Sonic is going to be the craziest game we've seen in a long time I think Goonies is going to be cool but I think Sonic is just going to be next level I think Sonic is going to be the speed of the game and the loop-de-loops I think Rich is just going to absolutely make a rollercoaster under glass It's going to be insane. And it's going to be just as adorable and colorful as Pokemon. I can't wait for a Jersey Jack game that's adorable. Also, Jean-Paul de Win worked on Sonic, just so you guys know. I don't think everyone knows that. But yes, Jean-Paul de Win's talents have been applied to Sonic the Hedgehog. the coin sounds it's funny that is funny like you know all the uh the slot machine coin sounds that jjp has been putting in the games it will now be appropriate i didn't even think about that um gang look have an amazing saturday thank you guys for all the well wishes on the personal day we're going through in this family but i'll tell you this every day above ground is a good day. The past is the past. Don't worry too much about it. You can't change anything that's happened. You can't. And you can't predict the future. The more you live in the present and hang out with Canada's Pinball Podcast, the more money you this is proven. This is scientifically proven. The more money you donate to Canada's Pinball Podcast, the happier you will be. I'm not even saying that like sarcastically, like the two dudes that donate or two to three dudes that donate $100 a month. They are the happiest people I know. So don't you want to be that happy? It's just right there. And every time you raise your subscription amount from $5 to $10, you will just be happier knowing that you've supported the world's most entertaining and humble, narcissistic pinball content creator the world's ever seen. It's just that simple. and now that he's like Win Schilling for Stern and he's wearing a spooky Hawaiian outfit and he's got a Charizard King Ice necklace on, I mean, this is it. This is what happiness looks like. We all can achieve this level, this supernal realm of happiness. We'll get you there. We'll get you there. Ozzy gets it. You know, Christopher Franchi gets it. Ed Ed Robertson gets it. Jamie Cale, Retro Ralph get it. Don gets it. Cengiz gets it. And we're going to have a good time. You know, the only people failing are the people trying to do the Twippies. That's it. That's the only thing that, that's the only, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the only failure I've seen in pinball so far this year is the Twippies. Like, isn't it amazing? Like, the games are awesome, but doing an awards show to celebrate the games is terrible now. We're going to bring it back. We got to roll it back because with all the great games coming this year, this would be the greatest pinball award show year ever. And we're going to have to fix it somehow. All right, everybody. Be good. I love you. Up your subscription amount. You know you want to. It's time. Fizzy, it's time. Fizzy, I know you got it, baby. I know you got it, man. I helped you get that Beetlejuice. I don't think I did any help, but you know you got it. It make you feel good. Chris L. I think Bond's missing because he's seeing the Pokemon prices go through the roof. but love you guys peace out john erlich love you all right we're done there now we're done here gym time