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INDISC 2023 - High Stakes Playoffs - Semifinals

IE Pinball·video·1h 33m·analyzed·Dec 26, 2023
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TL;DR

INDISC 2023 high stakes playoffs semifinals coverage with $15K first prize and EM game analysis.

Summary

IE Pinball covers the INDISC 2023 high stakes playoff semifinals, a $40,000 prize pool tournament with $15,000 for first place. The broadcast features commentary on Grand Prix (an EM machine) and upcoming Alien Star gameplay, with hosts analyzing player strategy, game mechanics, and competitive dynamics among eight finalists including Robert Byers (1 seed), Kaylee George (2 seed), Keith Elwin (3 seed), and others. The commentary emphasizes luck factors in EM games, rule depth, and scoring format (4-2-1-0 points across three-game banks).

Key Claims

  • $15,000 first prize is more than the World Championship first prize

    high confidence · IE Pinball hosts discussing prize pool structure; stated as $15,000 for high stakes vs. implied lower championship prize

  • 80 players qualified for the high stakes tournament with top 8 advancing

    high confidence · Hosts confirm '80 players, yeah. 80 players' and top 8 finals structure

  • Keith Elwin has won high stakes almost every year

    medium confidence · Host speculation: 'I expect Keith Tee'd Off dominate since he is, I think he has won it almost every year' — stated as expectation, not confirmed fact

  • Grand Prix features five balls in playoff rounds

    high confidence · Hosts confirm 'It is on five balls? So you play Tee'd Off. So the luck is minimized a little bit'

  • Daniele Celestino-Aciari qualified on his last attempt tied with Luke Nahorniak for 8th spot

    high confidence · Host confirms 'Luke. He qualified. Yes. Last spot tied with Daniele' and references his Torpedo Alley qualification attempt

  • Top qualifying scores on Grand Prix were several million points

    high confidence · Scorekeeper states 'I put in there or similar interjection several millions' referring to qualifying high scores

  • Qualifying format was $500 for exactly 10 entries with rebuys possible

    high confidence · Hosts confirm 'the format was $500 for 10 entries. So you could no more, no less' and 'Could you rebuy it or not really? Oh, you could'

  • Robert Byers had the highest qualifying card to earn 1 seed

    high confidence · Bracket shows 'Robert Byers, first seed' and hosts note 'He had an amazing card'

  • Eric Stone is positioned as a 'control' player less comfortable with live catch situations

    medium confidence · Host analysis: 'I was talking Tee'd Off somebody before. I mean, we were talking that Eric is more of a control guy. Yeah. Sure. So I'm thinking this is kind of a little bit outside of his comfort'

Notable Quotes

  • “$15,000 for first place. It's actually more than the World Championship, right? Than the actual first prize for the championship.”

    IE Pinball host (Brian or Andy)@ 0:31 — Establishes the prize pool as unusually high for pinball, attracting serious competitive play

  • “I expect Keith Tee'd Off dominate since he is, I think he has won it almost every year.”

    IE Pinball host@ 1:22 — Sets expectations for Keith Elwin based on historical performance, though speculation rather than confirmed data

  • “Daniele, his last attempt, his time ran out, was on Torpedo Alley. It wasn't even for a valid card. It was just his first entry. He put up 13.5 million points on that Torpedo Alley before his time expired.”

    IE Pinball host@ 2:25 — Highlights competitive drama and near-misses in qualifying; shows high-score potential on Torpedo Alley

  • “You start off feeling like the pressure is probably off a lot because just surviving out of a field of 80 Tee'd Off make a cut of 8 and guaranteed $1,500, you know, you can play with a little less pressure, I feel like.”

    IE Pinball host@ 7:18 — Analyzes psychological impact of guaranteed money and survivor bias in playoff format

  • “EMs don't give you a lot of chances, too, like Tee'd Off make shots.”

    IE Pinball host@ 17:57 — Commentary on EM game design philosophy and difficulty compared to modern machines

  • “That was your mistake, Eric. I think he could have saved that.”

    IE Pinball commentator (analyzing Eric Stone's play) — Real-time competitive analysis of high-stakes gameplay and player skill execution

Entities

INDISC 2023eventIE PinballorganizationRobert ByerspersonKaylee GeorgepersonKeith ElwinpersonDaniele Celestino-AciaripersonEric StonepersonLuke NahorniakpersonJermaine Mariahperson

Signals

  • ?

    competitive_signal: INDISC 2023 high stakes uses 4-2-1-0 point system across three-game banks; top two from group advance. Hosts analyze psychological impact of scoring and avoiding zeros.

    high · Hosts explain 'Four place gets four points. Second place gets two points. Third place gets one point. And last place gets zero points' and discuss how zeros are 'the kiss of death' in format

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Eight finalists seeded 1-8: Robert Byers (1), Kaylee George (2), Keith Elwin (3), Eric Stone (4), Jermaine Mariah (5), Escher Lefkoff (6), Luke Nahorniak (7), Daniele Celestino-Aciari (8). Seeding based on qualifying performance.

    high · Hosts pull up bracket and read off complete seed list with names

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Grand Prix EM features high variance, spongy flippers, wide-open lanes, live catch traps, and outlanes that can drain balls without recovery. Five-ball format reduces luck factor vs. three-ball.

    high · Hosts note 'EMs don't give you a lot of chances' and discuss outlane mechanics: 'areas out Barnyard the outlands are actually open on this game. So if you have a ball roll up the flippers, it can roll right out the outland area'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Grand Prix spinner strategy: ripping spinners (20-30K each) when lit to build points; double bonus mechanic allows maxing bonus and collecting via saucers or via drains.

    high · Commentary on spinner mechanics and scoring: 'Nice spinner rip... Yes, you are mine... so he maxed it out... about 20 000 30 000 30 000 yeah'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Alien Star requires spelling ALIEN (five right-side targets), then shooting left saucer to start multiball. Spinner increases multiplier from 2X to 3X/5X. Right lane hits light spinner for 10K/spin (50K during 5X multiball).

Topics

High stakes tournament structure and prize poolsprimaryEM game mechanics and strategy (Grand Prix)primaryPlayoff scoring format (4-2-1-0 points system)primaryPlayer skill analysis and competitive metaprimaryLuck vs. skill in EM pinballprimaryEquipment condition and impact on gameplay (spongy flippers, outlane design)secondaryLive pinball streaming and audience engagementsecondaryMultiball strategy on modern machines (Alien Star)secondary

Sentiment

positive(0.8)— Hosts are enthusiastic about tournament, players, and game quality. Competitive tension is high but professional. Some mild frustration about equipment behavior (spongy flippers, outlines) but framed as challenge rather than complaint. Celebration of large viewership (15,000 concurrent) and global audience adds to positive tone.

Transcript

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Hello, hello. Hello. Hi, guys. We're here. Big money, big prizes. I know. The action doesn't stop. Yeah. I mean, so we're leaving the glory behind, and now we're just going straightly money. So this is the mercenary tournament right here, right? Is that what we're doing? Serious mercenary tournament. So this is for the people that just care about money. Yes. $40,000 prize pool, I believe, yes? $15,000 for first place. It's actually more than the World Championship, right? Than the actual first prize for the championship. Yeah. Guaranteed. Was it $1,500 if you made the cut of top eight? I think it is, approximately. Yeah, so this is cutthroat. This is top eight. And there was how many? 80? 80 players, yeah. 80 players. And we were part of them. And that's why now we're sitting here, because we just, yeah, we don't cut it. So we're going to see people that are better than us. I did not try to qualify for high stakes. Oh, you didn't try to? I did not. I was too scared. I chickened out. So I'm the only sucker? You are. Absolutely the sucker. Oh, there you go. Where's my dunce hat? I can put it here. Get the cone of shame out of these. I was going to say, where's the cone? Yeah. It shouldn't be the blade. It should be the dunce. That's what it should be. All right. So what are you guys expecting from this high stakes? What do you think? I expect Keith to dominate since he is, I think he has won it almost every year. Has he? And maybe Belcido has also done well, but I don't think he's in it this year. Let's check the banner. Let's see here. The banner we got, well, in 2019 it was Jason Wardrick. 2020 it was Jim Belcido. 2022 was Keith Elwin. So you're saying it's going to be a repeat Keith Elwin? Well, I don't see Belcedo in the finals. Belcedo's not in the finals. That's true. But you do have some international presence. You have Daniele. He's going to be in there, too. You never know what he can do. Pretty much all of them are known names, right? You have, I think, Kaylee George is in there. Yeah, he's a known name, right? Yeah, nobody really knows how to play. Luke Nahorniak got in on his last, his 10th card. Luke. He qualified. Yes. Last spot tied with Daniele. Yeah, so that's kind of crazy. I also saw Daniele, his last attempt, his time ran out, was on Torpedo Alley. It wasn't even for a valid card. It was just his first entry. He put up 13.5 million points on that Torpedo Alley before his time expired. I hate that game. You guys hate that? I don't know. I hate that game. I only played it at MGC for a little bit, so I haven't played it much. Yeah, so the format was $500 for 10 entries. So you could no more, no less. And so if you... Could you rebuy it or not really? Oh, you could. The rules didn't say you couldn't. So I wasn't sure. That's true, but I don't think anyone attempted to do that. It looks like almost nobody even got through 10 tickets really for the most part. That was the problem. Yeah. So $15,000 for first prize. $15,000. And only eight players in the finals. Eight players. That's half a James Bond. So you have one in eight chance of getting this $15,000. All right. So let's see. So, Brian, you're saying what? You're saying Keith? I mean, he was second place in this last. Okay. We're doing side bet over here. I don't got the wrong one. We get the roster pulled up. There we go. What about you, Andy? What are you saying? I've got to get the roster pulled up. Oh, my gosh. He's actually analyzing. I didn't know who was. I don't even know. I don't know who all this is. So you're going to analyze it? Okay. You can't cover 90% of the roulette board and tell me to bet on a number. Okay. Come on. Let's do it. What does Chad think? Where is Chad at? Yeah, we don't see the chat over here. What's going on? You're on your phones pretty much. Bergbook, he says, put 500 on Brian. Sorry, I'm not in. I didn't. That would be a horrible bet. Yeah, it would be horrible. No return. Yeah. That's a donation, I guess. That's good. All right. All right. So Brian is saying Keith. Andy, he's still analyzing. I'm going to say. You're going to say Daniele. Well, I mean, he's Italian. I'm Italian. So I guess it's like, hey, go Italy. Maybe I'll do some commentary in Italian, too, for the people that are following for like 30 seconds. And then people are like, oh, stop talking. Yeah, just like the World Cup, right? Yeah. We got Robert Byers, first seed. Be quiet, the World Cup. Kaylee George, second seed. Keith Elwin, third seed. Eric Stone, fourth seed. Jermaine Marial, fifth seed. Escher Lefkoff, sixth seed. Luke the Horniac, seventh seed. And Daniele Celestino-Axiari. I'm sure I pronounced that wrong. I apologize. Daniele Celestino-Axiari. That's so much more beautiful sign than I could ever say. You got a little flow. Could not. Daniele Celestino-Axiari. Eric Stone has a very good shot as well. I think so. I'm just going to go back-to-back with Escher. He's going to take both down. He's feeling hot. I'm rooting for Daniele, but I think Eric Stone is going to be the tough one to beat, I think. He's going to be the big out of them. You know, Max, I'm just rooting for good games here. That's what I want to say. Yeah, of course. I mean, you want to do a win-play show? I'll take Eric in second. I'll take Keith. Kaylee takes third. Escher takes first. All right. Now, of course, in the playoffs, in this kind of situation, I think really anything can happen. So, I mean, even though you have favorites, I mean, you know how it is. Sometimes we make it in and we get lucky. I mean, and we're like, okay, they have a bad game. We have a good game. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So luck is always a little bit of a factor. So I'm going to say for a game like this, like Grand Prix, I mean, how much of a luck factor do you think it is that could affect? Well, it is on five balls. It's on five balls? So you got to. So the luck is minimized a little bit. Yeah. Okay. And the way it works is double bonus. Yep. you want to try to get double bonus you either want to drop a or b or c or d so you don't need to drop all the drop targets down to light double bonus okay um and then your bonus when you drain the ball is only on one side so you want to build up the bonus uh for the first ball is on the left side that's right you want to whale that spinner and then it will rotate back and forth like ball two will be on the right ball three will be on the left and so and very important how do you light the spinner uh lighting the spinner is when your bonus is maxed that's right yeah yeah so that's the and that's the the key catch here is like do you want to keep that bonus max so you can just keep you know exploiting that spinner or do you want to collect well accidentally you might end up collecting and they're like oh man my spinner just got yeah so there's a way to collect and so So left and right saucers will collect that value. So it's these guys right here. Wait. Telestrator's down, unfortunately. It's okay. And that's just a monitor, so it definitely won't tell you straight. That's it. Late production. So, right, it's similar to Prospector's silver bonus, I guess, then. Max it out. Max it out. Collect it. Maybe collect it a few. Granted, on Prospector, you really never want to collect silver bonus. It's 10K only. Yeah, exactly. So what's going on? Is this it? Or are we getting any practice, or are we going right straight to it? We're going straight into it. We're going straight into it. All right. That didn't look like a practice plunge. So here we go for $15,000. This is still semifinals. Yep. First ball, first game. All right. So we got Robert Byers. He's the number one seed. He had an amazing card. I mean, it's crazy. You've got to feel like the pressure is probably off a lot because just surviving out of a field of 80 to make a cut of 8 and guaranteed $1,500, you know, you can play with a little less pressure, I feel like. Good collective start there for 25k, I believe it was. Okay. Yeah. All right. Top scores, I think it was over a million, right? Some of the top scores. Yes. For qualifying. Huge spinner rip. Yeah, that was a good rip. Yeah, the rip just lights your spinner. It's one shot. Yeah, one shot lights your spinner. That's awesome. Both spinners lit, by the way, right now. Yep. So he's got both of them maxed. So this is great. So let's see if he can get on the fifth. Just got the AB, so now he has double bonus. Okay. And a spinner shot. Oh, nice in lane. Good tip pass over there. So satisfying every time you get it. Oh, another power in there. Oh, he saw that coming. He got $100,000 in bonus, so that's still a solid first ball. Sure. You saw that little rainbow going over there. All right, this is Daniele. For the Italians, forza ragazzi. Daniele Celestino-Aciari. For $15,000. There you go. That's the only thing I'm going to say in Italian. He just skill plunged the right in lane there. I was going to say, he, uh... Oh. Yeah. Now, on an EM, you know, the key thing, too, is mental. You're probably going to have at least two or three house balls, I feel like, most of the time. Yep. On an EM like this. So, you know. But that's the reason why a five-ball game is so important, because you get a house ball, you're not dead. Yep. Two house balls, you're not dead. Yep. Even two house balls are not dead. I've seen four house balls, and then, you know... I don't know about four house balls. Arvid had four on Aztec, and then he put up 880K on his last ball. So, you know. Get a hold of one. All right. Here's Jermaine. Awesome player, awesome person. Oh, my gosh. Also soft plunging. So there's some short plunging here. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm surprised. I thought during qualifying that a full plunge would kind of get you there. And he went right back to the saucer plunge, too. So maybe he was just trying to gauge his spinner strength. Yeah. So he already lit his double bonus. Yeah. So that's good. Fortunate pop bumper action there. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, boy. But, yeah. That happens on this game. I also want to see if there's going to be. No, there's not going to be really any transfers right from left to right. Oh, definitely not. Yeah, because we've got spinners on both sides. Also, you can't chat sit either because these inlanes are wide open. They're open. Yeah. B. Tedder in chat, just so you know, he was asking how this works. If you play a couple games and the scores are combined, they'll play a set of three and you get points based on your finishing order for each game. Then they add those together. The actual individual scores don't really make a difference in that sense, just the finishing positions. Since a lot of scores in pinball are different on game to game. Yeah, and first place is going to get four points. Is that correct? Yes. Second place gets two points. Third place gets one point. And last place gets zero points. Yep. So top two from the group will advance from that. So there's a possible 12 points you could get in a group while playing. All right. Let's see. Robert over here. Oh, boy. Right at the edge. Yeah. Right at the edge. and he knows it. That's why he's shaking his head. If you guys didn't realize why they reacted like that, it's because the areas out by the outlands are actually open on this game. So if you have a ball roll up the flippers, it can roll right out the outland area. That's where you're not going to see a lot of drop catches. Live catches. Drop catch kind of can be somewhat safe, but the live catch is the real killer. Yeah. Daniella can do over here. Oh, that's gone. That's what we're talking about with these EM games, you know. Daniella getting that 270 or 250 or whatever on ball one could be the difference in the entire game. Yep. The lights are a little bit out on the ball in play, too, so I had a little hard time seeing. But we got Jermaine coming up. Yeah. Here's Jermaine. what do you think about maybe giving it a big slap on the side to try to get it through those metal if it goes on the out lane oh there's no way it's coming back in oh yeah definitely not the thing's on a one-way ticket when it goes on those outlines i'm sure all right gets his double bonus lit ab nice nudge yeah getting that saucer all right he said just give it to me on a flipper there's a nice big rip so he lit his right spinners nice Oh, both spinners. It's going to be 1,000 to spin. That is good. He's like, no, why drain now? Why? It was lit. Why? But it's okay. But he had double bonus. I think that is. I think that is 180 or a little hard to see there because of the score reels being off angle. Let's see, Eric Stone. Super strong player. Nice nudge. Oh, oh. He knew it. He knew it. And a lot of that is because of the spongy flippers. I saw Daniele kind of receiving balls with them and letting them bounce over with the sponginess of it. Right. They're kind of very springy. Yep. So Robert right now has a lead, right? Yep. And this is ball three. Ball three. Yep. Still got some time. Still can recover a little. Sling action. Very active slings, too. He's got double bonus. Try to hit him. Nice save. Nice save. Oh, that's the live catch. That's what happened. That's it. You got punished. It's such a muscle memory thing. You don't want to save that ball like that. Yeah, because it's typically. 95% of games don't have that, you know. Nice stop. Nice stop. Beautiful. Now it's like spinner. You're mine. Are you? Yes, you are mine. Very nice. and let's see he maxed it out now is when he maxed it out so see if you can get one good spin at it get it back on the flipper maybe oh that's oh good nice nudge there to push it away from the uh outlines yeah beautiful spin how much is how much are you getting out of those about 20 000 30 000 30 000 yeah common to roll this thing i've noticed uh somewhat it's very rollable What were the top qualifying scores on this? I was doing the last two hours of scorekeeping, and I put in several millions, so I didn't like – Wow, several millions? Yeah, not several. I meant several million point scores. Right, right, right. Several million. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We're a little – I think we might be below that going right now because we're on ball three, and everybody's got about 200 to 300. Yeah, I'm not really expecting a roll here at this point for anybody. Well, let's see. You never know. Of course. You never know. Some slap points there. Oh, that's the sponginess that gets you, too. Yeah. That literally. Why? Why didn't you go down there? It's like, no. That's Deadpool. That's a live trap. But that's, you know, just sends it up and over to the arc. Let's see, Eric. Come on. There's the sponge. There it is. That was your mistake, Eric. I think he could have saved that. It bounced a little bit over to the right. Yeah. A little bit, yeah. He flubbed that one. He probably could have given it a nudge and maybe saved it. Yeah. Yeah, this is definitely one of those games that you kind of want to fling a little bit more than trying to control it. Send it more. Yeah. Keep it away. Yeah. Shoot it away and just do it. Yeah, you're saying, like, play on the fly? Yeah, play on the fly. Yeah, definitely. Play a little bit more on the fly, and maybe that's why Robert's saying, okay, you know what? Oh, nice rip. That one's nice. He's extending his lead. He's padding right now, so this is good. Double bonus, yes. Yep, it's very common to get both the drops up there in one trip, I've noticed. Yeah. Oh, not bad. Not bad. Not a bad ball. So he's at 482 right now. Yeah. Yeah. Got the scoop. Oh, oh, in lane. Nice. All right. Let's see if we can get it on the. Oh, nice. Friendly in lane. kind of took a hop there off that flipper messed up the shot oh oh he survived and he caught the spinner when it was vertical it was still moving but he caught it at the right position to send it again caught a few spins yeah so that was uh fortunate that was that 10 luck factor that we're talking about 90 on the right uh hey you need a little a little luck sometimes in life that's an amazing live catch too to stop the sponge like it didn't sponge it yeah and you always want to help it with that hard slap. You know, well, pat. That's why I saw that. It made it look like a modern stern flipper for a second there. Good ball there from Daniele. That's a good ball. Yeah, he's at what? 390. Is the 390 about to hit 4? 400. 405. So he's chasing Robert. Let's see if Jermaine can cut the distance a little bit. I think it's one good double bonus ball will get you right back in the game. Squalito, there are 1, 2, 3, four, five, six, seven, eight games in high stakes, but it's three game banks for the playoffs. So, best five games count. So, well, a double bonus is going to get you $100,000, right? So you want at least maybe a couple of spins, if you can. Yeah, and when you collect it on the saucer, it will also count as double bonus as well. Right, that's true. That's how the roll can get going really quickly on that situation. Yeah, but on the saucer, do you get double bonus or you just get single balls. You get double. Oh, you do get double. Oh, that like died right in the middle of the play field. It was going to go left flipper there. I wonder if maybe he got a little insert action there or not. Johnny's talking about sometimes the inserts kind of wear on these older games after how many years has this thing been available, you know? You can start to mess with the ball path. Yep. It's crazy how great this game looks for like what, 50 years old? I know. I don't believe it. You forget how... It was before I was born. That's crazy. I feel a little younger now. All right. Good control. Here we go. Nice spin. Yeah. And he's going to get some thousand spins here out of it because he was already turned on. You hear the different chime there when the thousands up. So come on. You're going to get it back is the question. Maybe. Yeah. Nice pass. He's got a thousand on both sides. Oh, he missed it. And he paid for it. He paid for it. You just got to flip those away. Yeah. EMs don't give you a lot of chances, too, like to make shots. Well, Eric, I mean, I was talking to somebody before. I mean, we were talking that Eric is more of a control guy. Yeah. Sure. So I'm thinking this is kind of a little bit outside of his comfort. Wanting to trap up and make live catches and stuff in these situations. And I wonder if maybe Robert knew about it and he picked it on purpose because he's saying, okay, let me play to their weaknesses. All right. Fifth ball here. Final ball. Let's see if Robert can keep his lead. Everybody's still within striking distance here, honestly, of Robert. Nice spin. Oh, he didn't. Okay, you got 50K, Brian. Okay, but you did get a double bonus. Oh, what a big rhythm. That's what you were talking about, too. Brian was sending it. Yeah, just send it up there. Come on. What a dig. Oh, that's still a great ball. Great ball. So that puts him up at 646. That was another double bonus ball, too. So, yeah, he's just killing it. All right, let's see what Daniela can do over here. Nice shot. no drop kindness any get it oh no did everything he could there but he did not the gaps a lot bigger on these on their games too so not savable all right so right now he's in second with about four four seven yes 70 and some change so germany and eric right now they're both around to germain is a 250, it looks like. Alright. Oh, he went with a slap punch. That didn't work. Yeah, it didn't seem to do anything. It's alright. He just needs one good spinner rip to at least take their place. Yeah. There you go. Nice survival. Trap. Say, I got you. Yes. Nice. So one spinner is maxed. Boom. And that advances the spinner, which is nice. That spinner. He's V. There's his V. He's got double. Ooh. Ooh. Hot dog. Why? And it's so satisfying when you hit it in the fight because you get just a little extra power. Yeah. Just a couple of extra spins. That's nice. Another close one. Nice rip. Beautiful. Making it up. Making it up around here quick. so 100 000 in the bank oh no oh yeah is that gonna be enough to catch uh but now i didn't make it no no sure by how much like 4 30 or so i think it looks like 4 69 versus 4 70. no no no oh my gosh he's right it is 4 69. oh no no you're kidding one nice little sponge That was a good nice sponge pass over. Very much not over here with Eric playing. Oh, heck no. Double bonus is now active. Stone's got a lot of ground to catch up though. Well, he's got the left spinner that's lit. He's got control. Okay. Get the right spinner lit too. Yep. Going to get a couple of thousand hits there. Let's see if we can get another spin. Nice reaction there to fire that away. There you go. Oh, but he caught it. Yep. He caught it when the flag was still moving, so he didn't get a full spin out of it. What happens if you repeatedly get A and B? Does that do anything or not really? The second one is extra ball, and I don't know about the third and fourth one. Okay. He kind of glanced that spinner as he went through, so he didn't really get a full rip on it. Yep. I'll be nice. Come and I'll be nice. 325. Oh, what an in lane He didn't take advantage of it though Come on, come on Missed it, missed it It's going to be 4-47 Oh my god That was the first spinner he missed too Like three or four of them And the game immediately took his ball away This is insane, well Robert, I mean he had A comfortable lead, but I mean Between Daniela, Jermaine and Eric I mean there's what, like Less than 50,000 points? Yeah. Wow. And unfortunately, that extra point makes a difference. If you just having that one extra point can make such a difference when you're going into game two and three. Yeah, so scoring is 4-2-1-0. 4-2-1-0. Three games in a round. And it can feel like it doesn't matter when you get that point, but then suddenly when you avoid a tiebreaker by having that one extra one at the end of game three or something. Oh, yeah. Or get to a tiebreaker, it really does make a difference. Oh, absolutely. You don't want to take zeros in this format. So those are killers. Yeah. three is like the kiss of death and four feels like such a boom and and let's hope that robert can can keep that boom going on because i mean sometimes you start with four and then you get a zero it's like no i had a four like you're you're amped up you're thinking i'm going to the next round and then the zero kisses that happened to you that happened in our group today yes started with a four and then zero zero boom gone and see you so demoralizing it's like what I started with a zero, got a four, and I'm like, yeah, I can do this. I can get past it, and then I got a zero. Yeah. It's like you get the hope and then just take it away. All right So what do you think is going to be the next pick What do you think is going to be the next game Robert going to be picking I think it going to be Torpedo Alley Torpedo Alley Okay Do you know how to play Torpedo Alley? Oh, yeah. Because I do not. Oh, I love this game. All right. Wait, wait. You've got to wear some sunglasses when you play that game. Did you just say you love this game? Yeah, it's great. Torpedo Alley? Yeah, it's awesome. Oh, you're crazy. I think you had some bad beer or something like that. I don't know. So I don't know. Okay, go ahead. I'll give you your moment. We'll see what we're going on, and then we can talk about it. Also, a ton of people following the chat during that game, so I apologize, guys. But thank you for following the stream. Please follow, subscribe, videos. We have 15,000 people watching. 15,000 people watching for $15,000 first place. Wow. So you guys are all watching, like, somebody with, like, two little sticks and, like, pushing a ball around? That's insane. That's insane. It's stuff that we do. It's awesome. Look at us. We're actually here. Yeah. We're here because we're not over there. This is so much fun. I know. But it's awesome, though. And I mean, I don't know. It's just so much fun to be able to do this and just to play it. So much fun to play it. I'm just glad everyone's watching. This is great. Yeah. Yeah. A few thousand people. A chat is, like, popping, too. I can't even keep up with it, guys. Where's everybody watching from? I'm getting texts from my friends saying the chat's a fun time. You really asked that question. I just want to see chat just go crazy. We're going to have like 50 answers. I just want to see chat just go insane. Are you kidding? Everybody type the word flip in chat right now. A lot of Colorado. The internet. There we go. Look at the chat just blowing up with flips. I love it. What about the furthest point that the person is watching from me? I'm going to say Australians. Australia, New Zealand. Yeah, pinball is very worldwide. What about Antarctica? I'm thinking somebody at the basin on Tarnica might be watching too, maybe. Probably. What do they do? They don't do anything. No? You don't think so? Space Station. This isn't like the chat thing right here. No. I think it's supposed to do chat. Oh, it is chat. Oh, there it is. Oh, my. I found the chat tablet, guys. You found the chat. I did. There we go. People are commenting on Taxi being loud. Taxi? Yeah. Taxi? No, Mystery Castle. Oh, yes. Right. Alien Star. We're going Alien Star. This game I do know. Oh, this is a great game. Such a scary game, too. So, Andy, what do you do on this game? Like, what is your strategy for qualifying versus the playoffs? Same thing, pretty much. I'm kind of a chicken player that likes to stay on my multiballs, so I try to just go directly at the alien targets and start it without changing it, whatever it happens to be on the time. So you don't, if you're on 2X, just start. So how do we get to multiballs? Yeah, go ahead and explain the basis of the game for the people that don't know this game. Spell Alien, the five flashing letters on the right you see spells Alien. Once you've knocked all five of those, lift them solid, you shoot the left target or the left saucer on the far left of the play field to capture your ball, and then what is it? I believe this target releases, or is it just automatically? You just plunge. You just plunge and release. You can also shoot the spinner on the left to increase the multiball scoring multiplier. You can see there goes from 2 to 3 to 5x. It'll mix it up. Yeah. It'll randomly land on one of those numbers. Right. So right now, at the beginning, it's going to be stuck at 2x. So the deal is, if you like the lock, do you want to just get it at 2X, or do you actually want to chance the spinner so that it goes to a 3X or a 5X? So Andy says whatever it's on, he just starts multi-balling. Okay, so you're conservative. Yep, I am conservative. Okay. What about you, Brian? What do you like to do? I at least want 3X on it. Yeah? I agree. Well, here's a question. What if you rip the spinner and it lands back on 2? Do you do it again? Well, let's say I'm on the left flipper. Then what do you do? I love shatting. Yeah? And then what does shatting do? So if you hit this right in lane, it will light the spinner for 10,000 a spin. So that's always worth it as well. Take a lit spinner rip and see where you land. See where you land. By the way, that's very important that we didn't say. So the way to make points in this game is to get that right in lane and rip the spinner. That's it. But if you do it during a multiball and you have 5X running, it's going to be 50,000 a spin. 50,000 a spin. And that spinner goes if you rip it. But it's temporary. It will run out. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, the litness of it. I just meant the physical spinner itself will scream. Yeah, and you can see that Robert, oh, and look at that. He's got the golden ticket. He's got the 5X. Golden ticket. I love it. He's got the 5X. So now he wants to hit those two letters. And he wants to avoid the spinner as well. Oh, my gosh. Here we go. Boom. Oh, he got a 5X. 5X right here. Wow. All right. His score is going to explode if he hits it after the runner. Yeah. Well, off an in lane, too, if he can. Nice. Nice. Yeah, you're right. Just a 5,000 spin. Now, are you going to shats it? Are you going to alley pass it? I would have shats it. He's going to get ball control first, maybe. I would have, too. Let's see. Or play conservative and just keep hitting spin. That would work, too. Like, yeah. Johnny just keeps shooting spinner. I would do this. Right now, I would shoot the spinner. I would shoot spinner first and then shats it. Oh, and turn it on while it's still going. Absolute. Nice save. You can do it. Nice save. All right. They're both loose. Got to defend them now. Try to get control again. Yep. Got control. Give him an in lane. Not that in lane. Wait for it. There you go. Perfect. Perfect scenario. So hit the spinner and then I would pass. Yeah. Hit it. He's just gonna take the safety. Oh no, he missed it. Did it again. Oh, it's literally one chance. You can hear him react there. A million and a half right there. Yep. Well, I thought if you would have dropped that, Brian, I think it would have rolled up the in lane. hammers the capture hole. Yeah. So the thing is, Eric Stone is really good at chassing, so we're going to see him be doing this. And that's the thing, so I don't know if it's going to come back and bite him by not alley-passing it while he had the chance because somebody that does that can take over him in just one spin. Yep. Something else to keep in mind is, you can get your alien letter spell during your multiball. He only had two left after that was over, So, you know, he just needs the L because he already collected the Aegis now, and he'll be back in his multiball having the shot available again. And that's the reason why he's not going for the Spinner because he's got the 5X. Yeah, don't change it. He just wants to get that L right now. He's just shooting a little bit early on that shot. Oh! Solid ball one. Yeah, I'll take that. The L should carry over, too. Yeah, I think the Spelling carries over. Yeah, but not the Multiplier. The Multiplier is going to be re-reverbed by the 2X. There's also top lanes. They don't seem to be worth a ton especially not in tournament settings because I know one of them is an extra ball up there But ah the extra boys worth quite a bit. Is it okay? Yeah, maybe is it three or four hundred thousand or something? Does this mold the one that's worth that's collect bonus which can be okay? Is any of that multiplied by your plate your multiplier scoring? Ah, I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so So he's got five X right now, then yeah, let's see if he can Try to get that There is a bonus multiplier and so when you hit the left in lane it will light temporarily the dead end shot Yeah, okay go through the right and then hit that target in the upper left. Gotcha So nice when the slingshots get you a letter because you know these things they can just go up So and especially when they get the bottom letter at the end. Okay, so he's got 5x ready. He's got 5x ready He's got the multiball pass it over. Beautiful little early. Missed it. See? Oh, the spinner's lit, but not going to go. Oh, yeah, of course not going for it there. And you're so teased because you're thinking, I want to get the multi-wall, but the spinner's lit. Nah. Will his capture carry over as well? His capture light will stay lit? Capture does carry over. But as Johnny said, not the 5X. No, it'll revert back to 2X. So at that point, I... We'll find out what he does. Especially on ball two, I would definitely go for the spinner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Chance it. Jermaine, give him a little buffing to the machine here. From Wedwin, Washington. Incredibly nice guy. I got to talk to him a lot this weekend. Oh, he does have a French accent, so I'm not going to hold it against him. Lively pops. Oh, okay. Nice. Oh. He's going for the chat. He's just going. Oh. What? What? It like gave him a flip. He's like, I want to keep flipping. I want to keep flipping. One for the road. Get out of here, buddy. Last call. So it looked like his strategy was just ignoring the alien targets and just do shots and spinners. Yeah, doable, I mean. See, the thing is that maybe he saw that Robert is not trying to chance it and risking it, so he's saying, okay, I'm going to go ahead and outspin him. I mean, that could be a strategy too. And especially on ball three, that's definitely something to consider. If you're not too far off, forget the multiball. Just get a good spin. Yeah. Aside from just winning a game of pinball, the way these rank points work for a three-game set, there's a lot of strategy going on here for, you know, what position you finish in, how many points you need, you know. That's why it's really nice when you're going fourth place. Yeah. You get to just see a whole survey, everything there, and make your choice. Yeah. And do you want to go for the hard shot at that point, or you can go for just easy, quick points? So someone in the chat was asking, are these games earplugged? And can someone explain what that means? Yeah, so the earplug is, so you have a tilt bob underneath the game. And whenever that tilt is moving, it takes a little bit more time if you don't have the earplug, right? The earplug, what it does is it kind of helps it stabilize a little bit more. And I wish we could draw something here. But think something like a pendulum that just keeps wiggling around. You put the earplug, and that's just going to muffle it so it just wiggles for just a short time. And you don't have to wait too long before it's just stopped. And I'll roll it back a little bit for anybody brand new to pinball maybe watching tonight. When Johnny says a tilt bob, there's a small pendulum underneath the play field with a ring around it. And if that bob moves and touches that contact ring, you'll either tilt your ball or get a danger depending on the game. And that's just going to be a quick, rough outlet. You can't do anything about that, really. I mean, that's nothing. The house collects. That's when the house is like, oh, guess what? 21. Take that. I'm taking the bob. We'll flip. All right. Let's see Robert here. Robert's going to try to pad. You know, in a way, maybe Robert, by playing conservative, is not bad because he's going in just with four points. He's thinking, let me get one or two points and just put the pressure on that. That's the strategy I was talking about. He gets six here, and he's in really good shape to advance. By the way, you saw that the multiplier's back to 2X? Yep. He's got the L, so he's going to try to lock it. Boom. Now hit the spinner. Come on, hit the spinner. You know you want to. Jeopardy music's playing right now. He's going for it. He wants the big money. Oh, come on. Spin the wheel. Yeah, there it is. Okay. That's not a whammy, so I feel like. Yeah, I'd take a 3X. I would take 3X. Now you're going to pass it. What are you going to do? You can post pass. Post pass. There you go. That's a nice post pass. That's a nice post pass. I think post passing from right to left was a little harder, wasn't it? But why do you want to. Well, if you want to get your locks. Your alien letters. See there, he kind of took some shots at the alien letters, too, to kind of stack a few of them up. Oh, there goes Spinner. There goes Spinner. Get it. One more shot. Yeah! Big boom. Look at that. Look at his score. And you see, yeah, yeah, we know. Go ahead and showboat a little bit. You deserve it. Fires with the leg drop there on the Spinner. A little bit. All right. Back to spelling it. I love animated players, Johnny. It's my favorite thing to see. Of course. This is definitely one of those games that... He's feeling it now. Let's go. Get another three. Post pass. I'll take it. Oh, no. All right. All right. It's all right. Good tip. All right. You're good. Try again. Oh, it's not one to give it. Oh, boy. Risky. That works. Nice. Nope. A little low. Oh, on the fly. Tried to one-time it. He's feeling it. Here it comes. Oh, yeah. There it is. Oh, man, he's feeling good right now. Now, if he gets two eights, he's through no matter what. So you guys know from a math perspective, there's no way he can't advance. So, yeah, the top two players advance. So you get two wins, you're in. Now he's going to just pad it. I think now he's going to play more conservative. There it is. That was, what, 200,000? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's special. Nice trust there, tip over. Push one ball over and he can tip pass. Nice. Great cradle separation there. Yeah, stopped the ball. Nice control. So he's hitting it okay. Deep breaths, Robert. One spin. A little dirty. It's all right. Nice job. I feel like if he live catches that one, it rolls up the in lane again. He gets the lit spinner. He's too good at drop catching. At least he's got the easier letters to get. And nails them both in one shot. Oh, man. Which, honey, is the last one you didn't want to do that live catch to roll up. Sure, exactly. It shows you how you have to change your strategy, how you approach each one of these games differently. All right, he got a beautiful feed from the pops to the left. That's all right. That's okay, though. You see he didn't panic there. He didn't mess with the left ball. He still got it on the flipper. Go right back to it again. And if you notice, I mean, you want to stop. That's a good thing, strategy. You lose a ball, stop for a second, recollect your thoughts, and be like, okay, what do I got to do? Make sure it's something really valuable if you're going to make a rush shot. you know, after a multiball ends. Look at that. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Up and down, baby. All day long. Keep doing that. What is that, 50,000 every time on that one? Sure. Points are points. This is the harder one, the end. Robert is showing why he was the one seed clearly right now. Yeah. Nice pass. This is the harder one, the end. Took the words out of my mouth, Johnny. Just a little bit low on it. Oh, that's gone. That's okay. That's a great ball. That's okay. We forgive that mistake. Very nice ball. I think you feel good about it. You see though He's a little frustrated because you saw his score and what can happen with a 3x lit spinner rip So, you know somebody gets a five of us five at right so you can see why he's not really feeling too comfortable yet All right, so Daniela here he needs he needs to do the spinner. It's gonna do it. There it is Just very moved literally three clicks to go back to where it was. Yeah, there he goes Oh no! He's going to keep doing it though. And he doesn't want to touch that end by the way. He wants to keep the parader. It'll be hard to avoid it probably during the multiball, but yeah. Yeah. Let's see what he's going to do here. Another post-pass. Because you can clear the alien during multiball, for example, and you'll have to clear it all over again to get your next lock. All right. Let's see if he gets a little luck here. Give him the five. Give him the five. Three? I'll take the three. Nice bounce. Scary there. A little bit low. fly there nice little stop perfect that's the ball over oh he's gonna try to tap us oh no oh that was fucking I got it stuck yeah oh boy all right oh that was not a bad decision but fortunately so yeah it's gonna have to do it again Backhanded again. That's not a bad idea. He's at three. There he goes. Nice. It's okay. Don't worry about it. He's like, I wanted five. He was just shooting at the three a second ago. It's all right. You get an in. You get a shot. You get a good spinner. You're right back in this. Well, never mind. He's got the end, though. He's got the end ready. Oh, five. He's got five. Okay. Oh! Nope. So if he almost had that one more move, he might have got it back in there. Yeah. If it was Starzy, he would have gotten away with it. All right. Still 285. Now, at this point, you may want to start thinking, okay, you know what? If Robert's going to take it, then it becomes a battle between the bottom three. Yes. So one or two points is okay, too. Yeah. Get your two points and have four there for the next game. Yeah. So I kind of wonder. Unfortunately, he's going second, so he doesn't know what the other guys are going to do. So that's when, you know, it's weird to strategize it a little bit. Jermaine's inside with everybody. Yeah, B-Tetter. So the scores are on each individual game, and like I said, they only result in what they get as far as 4-2-1 or 0 for each game. So once the game's over and they have their scores recorded, they just move on to the next one at that point. Jermaine is going to play it that way. Look. He is. Yep. Two spins out of that. He's saying, you know what, I don't want to catch 2 million. I just want to pass the other three. I want to put a cushion. Exactly. So he's going to play like 150, 200,000 at a time. Nice. Nice. And boom. Very nice spin. Look at that. That's about 200,000, almost 200,000. Yep. Yep. It's a little risky because you don't know what it's going to do once it comes out of the pops. Well, and the alley pass is risky too because it's a very smooth alley pass, so it flies up and out usually if you hit it too cleanly. Yeah. all right nice nudge nice nudge over all right yeah he's not even attempting to go for the nice save yeah yeah but with just one lit spinner he already caught up to daniele sure like so yeah Oh, no, it didn't light it. It did not hit the switch. All right. Oh, now he's changing gears. I'm not finding it anymore. He was just missing the shats too much there that he finally gave up. If you guys don't know, a shats is a description of a move when you're trying to shoot up an in lane with your flipper to trigger the actual rollover. Yeah, that comes from there it is. That's by the way California player awesome player. I mean we can see him a little bit more in the circus It is it is not a move that I think pinball designers ever intended to be the thing these games are made back then Well, there's a lot of new discoveries from back then. I'm sure it's kind of Rick's data and those guys It's awesome. Those left or right there Yeah, just pass it, yes. Yeah, the official term, I guess, is alley pass. Sure. So alley pass, shats, use it interchangeably. I feel like alley is when you're not trying to hit anything. You're just trying to move it from one side to the other. Oh. Oh, man. But he does have the multiball lit. Yes. He has the multiball lit. He just needs to probably hit the spinner to get to 5X and go. The TFR stone can come back here. I feel like Californians can be like, yo, it's a shats. Like, we know this guy. Yeah, he's like, what is it, soda and pop? Right? Is that what it is? Yep. Yes. Well, that thing isn't really wanting to get to the dead end either, I know. It still, like, hits the top pop when it goes up there. All right. He needs the toughest two letters to shoot. That was a nice drop catch, by the way. Oh, that's good. That's just bad luck. Brian saw that about two seconds before it happened. I heard him react to it. So, good eye, Brian. Oh, look at Robert. Robert's going in there saying, yeah, baby. This game, Pinovin, is Alien Star. He's like, come and get me. Come on. Yeah, when you're going player one and you drop a score like this, I mean, you're just full of them and vigor. Absolutely. There's no nerves on his part right now. So he's already got $29,000 in bonus already. He had bonus hold, so. Oh, what was that? That was on camera. It was an attempt to post that. He better go back on Twitch later on and see what he did. He needs to apologize for that. Yes. He should have alley-passed. That was wrong. Oh, what a dig. Nice dig. This kick-out's dangerous sometimes. It hits the top. Nice little bump. Big bumps. Big bumps. Oh, nice. Let's go. Oh, dirty. Buddy got 5X. Doesn't matter. Oh, no. Daniel. Que fall. My cause a fall. He's like a disappointed parent. I know. What was that? I almost want to like drop his cap and just hit him at the back of the head. Give him the five. Give him the five. Oh, no. Boo. Oh, nice. And got the spinner. Oh, he was right there. He barely turned over. Go to X. And he's like, why? Why can't you give me the five X? Oh, you got to work for it. SAS New Zealand, thanks for following. Keep it at three. Come on. No. That's twice he literally got it right there. He wants to go for the win, I think. That's what he's trying to do. I would go for the end right here. I think that's Daniele's style. I feel like he swings for the fences usually. Oh, yeah. He definitely is more of an aggressive style. I would be playing it safe because he has two points. Oh, he just had the five-lit too. Yeah. That was a big miss. and Jermaine's conservative, you know, alley pass where Schatz over and getting the couple of spinners has paid off. It's worked out. It's paying off right now. I mean, we don't know what Eric is going to do, but right now, Jermaine, I'm thinking he's probably going to try to paddle a little bit more. I don't think he's going to play very aggressive. He's got one point guaranteed because of that strategy. Yes. He's now got at least a point from this round. So, yeah. Well, that is a question answered. What do you guys think? Is he going to try to pat it, or is he going to try to go for the home run and try to catch Robert? He switched off of doing the shats his last ball. So I think he's going to go right back to shooting his—oh, his multiball is lit. His multiball is lit. He will take the 2X multiball if he gets it. You don't think he's going to go for the spinner? He's already doing safe shats as before. I'm saying he's going to go for the spinner. Okay. All right, let's see. I agree. He's got a shot for a spinner. He's going to go for a spinner. Let's see. Two-to-one vote here. Let's see. Oh, shats in it. Oh. Okay, all right. All right, here's the dollar. Side bet one. All right, let's see some ball control here. Okay, good, good, good. So he's going for the pad. All right, let's see. You're going to see him try to cradle separate there, which is what he did there. Beautiful. Remove the balls because you can't do much with two balls on one flipper. Yep. So you'll see players do that in a multiball. He didn't get a clean spin. Yeah, I think he's going to do it here. Come on, that's it. There it is. That's the stretch. Oh, he got air defense by his own ball. Oh, too bad. It just turned off. That was actually a nice one. Three-second light. That thing goes out quick. That right That was actually a very good move But that was the exact strategy they were going use we ducked under the the spinner was horizontal there and it ducked under so it stayed at 3x So if the spinner is lit and you hit the spinner it will stay lit, oh it won't it won't go out while it's spinning Oh cool. Good to know. Oh Nice Passover. Look at that. Oh beautiful All right, you're good going for letters now he's changing it up sometimes he's going for letters sometimes he's alley passing it to get the call to that i call it the buffet yeah he's like yeah i want to go a second round a little bread now pizza yeah look at that look at that see that that shot won't go around to the dead end too i know it's hitting the top pop did you see that it almost touched the end like it like you just kissed it but didn't push it far enough. If it was a Martian shot on Attack from Mars, it would have counted. That's a really hard shot to shoot on the fly, too, which is what he's having to do off that shats. Oh, yeah. Oh, what? That end just does not want to register. That end is playing hard to get. It almost looks like the end targets a little bit further back, too, from the E. If you're looking at it straight up and down. Nice dig. It's the hardest shot in the game, too. Yeah, for sure. oh nice that was a drop beautiful he's still not getting the end though look at that beautiful that's what i'm talking about there it is give it to him he deserves this multiball now all right yeah that's when you take it beautiful all right he's dancing a little dance a little music there come on three spinner rips and lit spinner all right right back in this thing yeah close probably to get the ball is okay gets it all right cool comes down say pass it over let's see that was an interesting full shot there it's tempting fate going in that saucer okay here we go here we go nice it's gonna be the setup spinner your guts oh It's alright. Oh! On the fly! Nice. Nice pass over. Little tippy tappy. Kenny, yeah. Oh nice defensive move. That was a beautiful defense. You saw it from a mile away that that was going down the middle. He's like, that's it, I'm gonna save it. He used his ball to stop another ball from going down the middle. That's air defense. So that is an advanced move yeah and by the way that was very smart before the ball got to the froth he hit the spinner so he can get that one extra 3x spinner oh great great observation Johnny really fast like he's like yep and look at that multiball again with nice day the shovel okay Robert is getting a little I'm thinking Robert's game is an unbelievable alley pass that was like below the middle. It hit the middle of the flipper when it moved over. It went straight horizontal. We should find out where on Twitch what hour minute it is because he's going to want to go back and see it tonight and be like, yeah, I did this. That was an unbelievable pass. Oh, look at that. A little mutant action there. Just give him a lit 3X spinner. I want to see it ripped so bad. You know, one rip it could catch Robert. He'll absolutely catch him. now at 1.5 where he is. You got the spinner. Oh, God. Nice. Here we go. Here we go. Here's the setup. Boom. And boom. Nice. The spinner just stopped at that point. Oh! It just shut off. Now it's stuck on. He's going nuts. I think he got paid for that. He's still flashing. Yeah. And this is why you saw Robert not react. He was kind of bummed out when he had those bad two balls because 2.2 million is good on Alien Star, but it's catchable easily. He'll get that back over in a minute. There we go. All right. Let's see if he can do it again. Spinner shots. Boom. Nope, not enough. I was a little dirty this time. He was smart, too. He shot that ball a little early so it didn't hit the ball. It was coming by. Oh, nice save. Another one. This is just an end. He's putting up a show. He's just putting up a show. This is awesome. Like, you lose count of the number of impressive, like, moves that he's used to protect balls. This is the ball that you want to, you know, remember. It's like, I want to go back and see this ball. But I did. But we want to see a spin. We want to see a really good rip, though. So, let's see if he's got it. Oh, my gosh. Special. Special. Oh, he's close. Oh, no. Bonus. Wait, bonus? There's no bonus X. No. There's nothing. Because of that darn shot, it won't go around. Wow. Oh my gosh. Oh, Jermaine. And I can see him. Look at him. Wow. Oh, Eric, just, just, uh, what happened? I'm not sure, but it wasn't good. We looked away for a second. He just kind of gave up on that. Wait, but did the ball drain? Yeah. Okay. I didn't even see that. A little bit of rage tilt at the end. Okay. A little, added rage. What a ball by Jermaine and yet he came up short. What a ball though. What a fight. You're taking off your heat. It's getting a little warmer in here now. The cash is getting big. We got a hype train going in chat. Thanks guys. That was an amazing ball. I saw someone in chat say sorry for asking questions. Never apologize guys. Pinball is kind of an esoteric thing. Chat's always happy to answer questions if we miss them. So please ask all the questions you want. You want to ask us what toilet paper we use? I mean, that's fine, too. We'll answer that. If you want to get into a pinball tournament, Google the IFPA. There's a calendar. You can put in your zip code. You can put in the distance to the closest tournament. You can find a tournament. There's thousands and thousands of tournaments every year. 95,000 players, I think, play competitive pinball in the world. And I think we had like 60, at least 60 of the top 100 here this weekend. I mean, it's awesome to think where we came from. Like, I don't know, 2002, 2003 when there was really nothing going on. bowling alleys and all that. And now you have pinball tournaments popping up everywhere. In fact, sometimes, even in a week, you have to decide, which one do I go to? Yeah, especially if you live in Seattle. Even on the same day. In Seattle? Yeah, in Seattle they've got multiple a day. It's crazy. I've only been playing for like five years, too, so I didn't know any of the before-before times when it was that kind of stuff. I mean, I really got to say, I mean, from, and I've been playing for a long time, I mean, competitively since 2004, and this is really the golden age of pinball tournaments. Yes. Competitive pinball. Not the golden age of pinball, but competitive pinball. And all thanks to this stuff right here, the streaming, the Internet, the rankings. Yeah, Carl Jim. The pinball rankings. I mean, that's, yeah, Carl Jim. I mean, people that just volunteer so many hours into doing all of this. When you talk about the rankings, really people care about that a lot. You know, the IFPA has a set of rankings for world pinball players. Any tournament you play in that's IFPA sanctioned, which is practically every single one of them, you'll get added to the world rankings. You're going to be world ranked. You can track yourself. You get points for any position you finish in. You get some points, which build your rank up. You reach top 1,000. You get a coupon every year for a discount at Bimbo Machine. You're getting what you're using? What are you getting? I'm going to get Jurassic Park. Very nice. I'm doing it. Absolutely. I'm like, I'm going to take advantage of the discount. Solid. I'm getting a Deadpool premium oh dang that's nice too yeah that's a good one so so yeah it's a lot of fun and and especially now with the newer machines where you have a qr code on the machines you can actually track some of some of your uh exploits and some of the you know goals that you've actually reached at the pinball so i mean it's just getting better and better i mean it's it's really cool i can't wait till you have like a pinball machine where you have like levels and maybe you can keep the level and go back to a machine and be like, oh, you start at level seven, you know, with your magic sword plus one and your shield plus, huh? You must not have an Ninja Turtles. Or a Rush. That's right. That exists already. Ninja Turtle does that, right? Yeah. So you keep the level of, like, Leonardo or whoever it is. Oh, yeah, game to game. Yes. So I wish you can do that a little bit. They should do, like, a Dungeons and Dragons one so that you can, you know. Pull an RPG of Zelda. Zelda. Oh, yeah. They're getting closer to that. You know, like Rush itself, your ball feels like it's leveling up as you collect the Time Machine Awards. Yes. You know, you start to get bigger ball savers, bigger multi-balls. You feel yourself getting stronger as you play Rush. It's awesome. So there you go. So Jersey Jack, Stern, you know, all you guys out there, there. Start doing something like that. Yeah. More video game things in pins. Yeah, anything that morphs a little bit, that we keep a little bit of memory, it's kind of nice. So are there any favorite games out there, people in chat? You get Carl. I don't know if it's possible to send you. Oh, my gosh. All right. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Robert is like, that's it. That's not Robert. That is... Is that Nacho Libre? That is Top Rope, I guess. Who is that masked man whose name is right at the bottom of the screen showing who he is? He's getting showboating now. I mean, he's like, I don't care. I'm already through. He's already through. Whatever. So how does Blackjack work? Blackjack is one of my favorite rule sets in the solid state slash EM era. You see your player's hand and your dealer's hand up there, okay? If your player's hand is higher than the dealer's hand, and you shoot that far right saucer, you will receive. I wish we could circle it. Yep, I can't circle it, unfortunately, but it's up there on the far right. You will receive a bonus X increase. I think there's some other awards you get as well, some points. Well, you see it right there. They'll list it, right? Two X, three X, five X, extra ball special. An extra ball. You get 5,000 for in there and an advanced bonus as well, always. Now, what happens if the player's hand is at the same level as the dealer's hand? Just like you push and you get nothing. Okay. So you do not win anything if you have a tie. No, I think some versions of this you do. You can set it either way. Yeah. But my guess is that this one doesn't give you anything. Yes. Now, push is set to lose here. It's not a guess. It's actually written on the board. It is indeed written on the board. And one thing about this game is that usually you don't see this in tournaments. You get to play the extra balls. Usually in tournaments, you turn off extra balls. Not this one, because it's really hard to get. So if you get it, you get a good reward. Stop playing like a two-year-old. All right. Eric is never vocal, never talks or anything like that. Nope, he's a pretty quiet guy. He's general. That's gone. Very odd for Eric. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. Can you give me a damn shot at it? It's awesome how much emotion and energy goes into when you're playing pinball like this. I mean, it really gets to you. So this one's going to be another three-ball game as well. That's tough. It's a tough one. That is tough. This is tough. It's got big outlanes. Now, my question is, did Robert pick or defer? I'm sure he picked. I mean... My guess is he picked. No. Well, yeah, you're... Can you repeat the picks or not? Well, yeah, that's true. He probably did defer then. Eric probably picked because he's player two right now, and I think he was player four the last games. So, my guess is Robert picked first, or deferred and picked first, and then Eric picked again. Now there's what you want there. The pop's putting right back in there because you see the red and yellow targets in the center of the play field? Those change player and dealer's hands. And the left spinner does the same changes. Which one is the left spinner? The dealer. Dealer. And top lanes also change player hands. So if you don't shoot any of those and you get yourself in a situation like he is right now, you can just keep cashing in saucers. Yep. And he just needed one more saucer for the extra ball. Yep. Still, though, huge ball there. Nice ball. Absolutely. And I believe dealer's hand has randomized every ball, yes? Yep Yes And in this case, unfortunately for Jermaine Even though right now he has a winning hand The moment the ball is going to go down the upper in lane It's going to change No, it's going to change the player's hand You could skillfully plunge into that saucer though That is a very difficult plunge to make Like that you mean? Like that, yeah, exactly See? Easy Thank you Jermaine I love it. That plunge is very easy to make guys. Don't even stress Yeah, at least what you saw him doing there is trying to avoid everything that would change there You still only his player hand so he's good. He's still good Now he wants that magic scoop wants to avoid play. Okay. Well, you gotta push now. Yeah right now He's not gonna get anything. So you still got 3,000 and you still a bunch of bonus Five thousand five thousand your best bonus. So yeah, he's not really getting much here. Yeah Now one thing I noticed you can do in this game, I don't know if you're gonna see people doing it, but you can tap pass from right to left Very easy to do. So he's probably just taking those. Did you see that insert? Which one? The movement? Watch the ball when it's going down. Oh, a little bit of cupping going on? The inserts can be very evil Especially if you half spinner He's set up here. Oh a little bit late He'll adjust and make it to the side. Yeah, boom It's a good blackjack because you see it eats that ball like it should when it gets up there. So he's a 3X. That's okay. Solid though. Solid ball. So right now everybody's kind of on par. So Eric is in bad shape here because he needs to win this in order to have a shot at making the next round. Yeah. Yep. He needs to win this and have the other two players also not take anything more than four points. So. Yes. And of course Nacho Libre, he can create spoiler. so let's see what he's going to do. There we go. That's a push. Does he just keep that in his pocket? At all times? Yes, he does. Yeah, there you go. He blew on that ball a little bit with the right flipper to get it to roll back down there. He's unfortunately 20. This is a little rough situation to be in as far as blackjack goes. Tie goes to the house. Yep. That's Mr. Stone here. Stone's in a bad position because he's going to move forward if he doesn't skill plunge. Yep. So now he's in the losing, but... Good. You at least get a little bit of bonus, even though the... Yeah, I mean, bonus, I mean, if the scores are close... Well, and it might feed to the top lanes, too, and push you forward when it comes out of there, so... Left spinner is a crapshoot as well because it's going to rotate the hand and it might get stuck on a bad one as well. Now, there's a way to light the spinner. Yeah, is it all top lanes, I believe? I think so. Yeah, which is something you're never going to see. It's pretty hard to do. As he proceeds to immediately do it after we say it like last time. Well, Jermaine will do that. Daniel, you actually had one squirt out there. That one stayed in. Good deal. See, I think I will go for the scoop right now, even if you're not getting the awards, because, I mean, the scores are pretty tight. Yeah. Well, it might go back in there a couple times. You get 15,000, 20,000 all of a sudden. Yep. See, he's in setup. No. Oh, no. This can be a very frustrating game to play because of that mechanic. Back to spinner. Okay, that's the best situation he can be in right now. Can he get it on the flipper? There we go. Here we go. That was beautiful. Let it ride. Bumps back in there. Just not. Oh, he got the in lane. That was. That was really good trust. Another in lane. That was really good trust on his part. He saw that. Oh, that's a. He's getting some love. No, he's getting a little love for this back deck. Those are good moves, though. I'm giving him respect for those. I'm thinking he probably tipped the car dealer here. Yeah, because that's a lot of love. He's wasting his house money here on these shots. All right, you better get this one. Oh, my. Oh, no. You deserve it. The game says get out. The dealer's like, okay, you're tipping me, but. Bouncer showed up, threw him out. You just put it in the wrong hand. Sorry. still though in the lead by quite a bit that was a good ball only on ball two here but he could have had a an extra ball i'm thinking on that yeah he missed two missed two scoop shots there so i find when i'm playing if i'm nervous i hit my shots too early because i just wanted to i just wanted to get there you know and i'm not patient you know yeah so that's a fair point i think i do the same thing so see that's why i kind of do tricks you know kind of stop the ball and start like itch somewhere, you know, kind of like, I don't know, distract your mind and say, okay, back. Twist the ear a little bit. Twist the ear, you know, maybe, you know, pull your pants up or something. I don't know. Oh, look at that. Look at that. Another skill shot again. You guys don't understand, if you haven't played Blackjack, how hard that is. He's making it look easy, but it's not. That perfect drop catch to another one. That was beautiful. Jermaine wants this. Yeah. Oh, he hit the spinner. He's probably good no matter what. Oh yeah, now he's perfect since he was at 20, so I want to keep it alive. Oh now he's kind of fortunately you changed it, but that's okay Right spinner up top. Yeah Oh just stopped a little short Oh nice save Oh, that should have rolled twice. It hit the rollover but didn't quite hit it again. Oh, what a save. What a dig. Wow. Take a breath, Jermaine. What a dig, man. Slow down. Where is it going to stop? We've got a replay from Carl here. Watch this, guys, on the left. Oh, my gosh. Stuck on the tip of both flippers. all right he's set up to here all right here we go for the 5x this is perfect position beautiful now the all-important extra ball can you get it can you get it oh he's nervous okay he's got this sniped boom and boom little dance little jig dance so now at this point how much is the special worth uh i think 50k and i think you can keep collecting it is it 50 and he doesn't care. He does not care. He doesn't care. I mean, he cares, but... Yeah, but he's okay. He's playing another one. I remember at Expo when they had us qualifying, that was the way to just melt the game down. As soon as you got special lit, it could keep collecting it. And of course, he likes the fact that the machine doesn't count the score really fast because he plays on the nerves of his adversaries saying, yeah, you gotta listen to this. You gotta listen to that bonus. PinballWiz45, thanks for calling out. Eric needs to win. Robert needs to take second for a tiebreaker here. because he needs to make sure somebody gets one and zero points in the bottom group. Oh, my gosh, he did it again. Unfortunately, it wasn't a win. Three in a row. Three in a row. Ban him. He's cheating. I just can't even believe it. All right. Ooh, nice. Changed the dealer. It's perfect. Oh, man. Here we go. Here we go. All right. I haven't seen many go back in. Let's see. There we go. Yes, there we go. There we go. I was calling it out. Give him another. It's the best. When you get, like, four or five in a row, it's like you cheated the game entirely. Nice. Okay, here's another extra ball. You collect it again and play it again, too? Absolutely. All right. Absolutely. Bonus pinball. Yeah. Oh, no. And he celebrated it, too. He did. Oh, no, Jermaine. The game said no. It's just like, no, you're not going to get it this time. The only thing I love better than a celebration is an early failed celebration, because I do that all the time. It's my favorite thing. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Chat's going crazy. I love it. I love an early celebration that doesn't work out. You're like halfway through the celebration animation. By the way, what a place to be. 357,000 in fourth. By the way, player four. So, I mean. In the driver's seat. In the driver's seat. Absolutely. All the way. Let's see what Robert can do. That was an interesting path it took back to get to that saucer. Whoa! Eric Stone is rooting for Robert right now to really put up a good score. Yes. So, I got to say, it's tough. And that's it. That's going to be it for Eric. because Eric needed to pass Jermaine. So now it's Daniele or Jermaine. Yeah, now Daniele needs to pass Jermaine, period. That's it. Yep. Is that the Rey Mysterio mask? Thank you, Cosmic Tron Gaming. Is that what it is? It's what someone in chat said, so. Okay. Chat never lies. Ah. So let's see what Eric should be a little more relaxed now even though I mean disappointed but relaxed Still $1500 Richard Oh my just making it in the top 8 That on it's own is incredibly difficult to do I'd like to see him at like $500 down on this ball that'd be great See there he's going for the change player hand because he knows you know he's already kind of out in that sense so those are the more aggressive play nice tip over nice oh there he goes there he goes doesn't usually do that there's like a little chamber right there up where it says beat the dealer that the ball kind of stops for a second and it kind of rolls into the gives a little knock there for uh see you later Yep. All right. So this is it for Daniele. Can he do it? He needs to at least double his score. He's in a bad situation again, too, with Player Dealer. So he's going to be tied here. Yeah, he's going to be tied. But a spinner is going to do it. But then he's going to go back down again. Oh! Oh! Oh, he tied it. That's 17. Yeah. He needs, like, a red target right now. That's all he needs. I'd almost go for it. You'd take the red target here? I think I would. because, yeah, unfortunately, that's the problem. Now you don't. Now it's like you're too far off. Yeah. Oh, that's good. It's over. It's over for Daniele. So it's Jermaine and Robert making it to the next round. That's it, Jermaine and Robert. Jermaine played that really really well both those games Yeah That right That what we like to see Jermaine Plunge out He just plunged it right off The walk The walk That was a really, really, really solid. It was. Jermaine just brought it. Oh, my gosh. He started with, what was the first one? The Alien? Grand Prix was the first game, but Alien Stars when he turned it around. No, but he started with Alien Stars. You're like, oh, my gosh. He started getting out of it. Oh, yeah. Between second and third. Yeah. I think it was like another 2,000 or 3,000 after that. Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. Got a lot of Jermaine's in chat. I don't know if Jermaine could be a contender here because I'm thinking, I mean, he's playing. He's on fire. No, that play was. Wait, what were your picks? Is Eric out now? Who picked Eric? I chose Eric for third. I chose Escher to win. I was going for Daniele, but I was thinking Eric was going to be the guy to beat. And guys, guess what? That's it. I lost my money. Escher was my first place pick. Do we have results from the other group? Not on that we don't. I'm not sure I can find it out. We're moving the rig. We got more pinball. It's not over yet. I think someone did say that Keith blew up getaway, but I could be wrong on that. We're going on Grand Prix. We went from the sports car to really old racing pinball. America versus Europe. Yep. And we'll see the scores and standings here in a second for that group. We'll get things back up, guys. So I would think that the getaway is much faster than Grand Prix. Dalton is very excited about bonus pinball. Are you kidding? Oh, getaway? Grand Prix were pretty quick, too. It was quick, yeah. I'm thinking ball speed-wise, though. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. I thought you meant game time. Yeah. No. There might not be faster pinball in the world than getaway. Yeah. Benoit, thanks for following 2330. Yeah. Follow, subscribe, give subscriptions, give bitties. And here we go. Carl in the stream. Okay, so Keith is already through. Ball two, we are on. Ball two. All right. Here we go. This is Kaylee George. So we're in the same situation here. It's between Kaylee and Escher. Oh, wow. Yeah. So Keith is already in. So this is a battle with, yeah. Every time I see Keith on stream that he has eight points in whatever round he's in, practically. So if Luke can get first and Keith can get second, then we'll have a tiebreaker. So it's the same situation as the last game. Yep. It's like Keith has 622 and he's not interested in letting anybody catch up. So is that 300 probably on the right for player three? Or 800? I can't really tell. Yeah, it's hard to tell. By the way, Keith has been pretty much perfect this weekend, right? He won Classics 2. He won the World Championship, the Open. Keith Elwin? Keith did not win the Open. Oh, he did. He won by 6,000 points. Where was I? That's right. I sure won it by 6,000 points. That's right. You couldn't believe it. It was unbelievable. He was not perfect. He's pretty dang close. Yeah, he came close to perfect. Well, he got second place. You should have seen our faces over here. We're just like, what? Disgusted staring at you. I know. What can I say? Where were you, in the bathroom? I was drinking liquid death. You missed him. So, you know, I just got to my, yeah. So, yeah, Luke is up. Well, what is that? Yeah, that was three. So, now it's 465. Luke is a big fan of orange hats, if you did not notice. Yeah. Now let's see Escher. So Escher has what? Did he roll it or he didn't roll it? No, I don't think he rolled it. I can't tell. I think they're on ball two maybe right now because that's the one that's faded on the glass. Yeah, but Escher has what, 80,000? Right, I'm saying it's ball two, so I'm sure he didn't roll it yet. I think so. Yeah. If he did, it would be quite an impressive feat. Nice little nudge up there to get into the saucer. Okay. Ooh, that feat is a little squirrely. Ooh, survived that. Off the bouncy, there we go, advanced spinner. Nice nudge. You'd think there was a rubber on that inlay that he just used. It looked like it bounced off a rubber. He hit it so well into the ball. You're seeing them up nudge that, guys, as they're moving the machine into the ball to move the position where it's going to be going to. You can control the ball's position in these games a lot more than just with the flippers. Oh yeah, I couldn't save that one. He tried almost. Yeah, a little bit. It just caught the very edge of that top slaying on a with velocity. I was going to roll right out now. So Escher, the new world champion, right? Yes, champion. And he and he is key seconds. Uh-huh. Let's see if he wants a little revenge here. So Escher just won a pinball machine, but that's not enough for him. He wants another 15K. $50,000. Yeah. Those taxes, man, you know? Can they tax the pinball machine? Oh, yeah. Of course. It's a prize. It's a prize. Uncle Sam, baby. Nice dead bounce there. You know, we didn't see a lot of dead bouncing in the first game on this. I feel like that's a good move there. way more dead bounce. That was easy control he got from that. He's making it look easy. He's looking excited as can be as usual while playing and destroying a game. That's pretty much his standard, I feel like. Nice. He just takes a break. He's like, whatever. He just took a break. Goes into saucer, gives him some more time. Maybe he'll start playing one-handed. That's great. I love it. He's just playing for fun right now. Yep, he's barely got his hands on the flippers. Come on, Keith. We want to go home sometime. All right. He's, like, daring it to drain. You make a move on that outline. He's just like, whatever. Try it. In a way, it's good because maybe on the next round they might go again. And he's definitely going to go practice on it. Yeah, always play your balls out, guys. You know, even if you've advanced. He's got one, two, three, and four lit. I don't know what 2, 3, and 4 do. We only saw one on the last game, I feel like. If anybody in chat knows, please let us know what lighting 4 does. Could it be a special? So he did roll it. Yeah, definitely. On ball 3, by the way. On ball 3. We were talking about it not happening on ball 2. That's impressive. He's a machine. All right. Yep. More points. Roll it twice, Keith. So he's about to lap everybody, is he? And then some. Wow. Good trust there. Right there at the edge. Right at the edge. Oh, look at that. He's still daring it to drain him. Yeah. It's like he doesn't need it. I mean, she's like, no. I'm going to force you guys to be here. That's it. He's like, yeah, I want it to drain, but I'm going to keep flipping. Oh, there you made it. There you made it. He even teases the side holes, you know? You want this? Yanks it back. He's like, no, I like you. Oh, boy. Probably the best ball of Grand Prix that's been played in all of the weekend qualifying. I'll get that save, too. Why not? He's like, eh-eh. That nudge. What was that? That was beautiful. So he nudged it up. Oh, he hit the post. To hit the upper side of the rail. Good eye, Johnny. That was really cool. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's awesome. Yeah, look at that. Roll it twice. Oh, man. Is he going to lap everybody? That's the question. Well, he already lapped Escher. And he's about to lap. Look at that. He turns around. There we go. Really? Really? What does he say? Double bonus? Is that what his shirt says? There it is. What? Yeah. Uh-huh. I think this is the most enthusiastic I've ever seen Keith Bell win. For sure. I know. He's always super quiet and super reserved and stuff, so that's cool. Yeah, he left everybody. I mean, I'm thinking the machine is so nice. Maybe we should give him, like, three balls and he could just juggle them while he's playing. I don't know. He's, like, eight for eight on spinner shots right now. Nine for nine, maybe. He's making this look like an easy game. Yeah. Man. By the way, he just passed everybody. Yeah. He's going to roll it twice on his ball. Look at that. He didn't even make that. He didn't move it, and it still didn't leave. He wanted it to leave. I know. He's daring it. Oh, man. Good thing we don't play extra balls here. Jeez. There. More A's and B's. Sure, why not? Yeah. He's got an alphabet worth of A's and B's. Look at those nudges on the rubbers there, too, to push it back into the saucer. I don't know. I'm thinking he's probably getting bored at this time. He's like, oh, my gosh, I'm still playing this? At this point, though, you're in the mode where you're going to keep going because it's hilarious to just, like, roll it twice if you can. He did miss a spinner. Yeah. The game didn't care. It just gave it back to him again. And it means that everybody else is putting their sweaters on. They're starting to get cold. Yep. They're doing stretching exercises. Oh, terrible ball from Keith there. What a horrible ball. I don't know. You should play better. Bad drain, Keith. I don't know. Was that a 1.7 million or so? 1.6 million? 1.8 million. I meant the ball itself. Was it like 1.6, I think it was? Oh, no. He was already at 6,000 or something. Yeah, so that was a 1.2 million ball. Okay. Casual 1.2 million. All right, Kelly. Not bad. The funny thing is that Kelly's like, I don't care what you score, Keith. Just let me play. That's true. I got to beat Escher. Keith, you put the flippers to sleep now. I know. Another week. All right, let's see Kaylee here. So, nice. Oh, that's savable. I don't know. It hit the tip of the flipper, but. So, Keith winning this removes the tiebreaker possibility, correct? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Luke needs to pretty much double roll this game in order to have a shot. Yeah, because otherwise they're spreading 0, 1, and 2 points between them, and there's no way that results in any ties. Correct. He's wanting to get out of here. That's why he's just making sure there's no tie breaks. Nice. Keyboard and thumbs, thanks for following the stream. Oh. Oh. Oh, nice nudge. That was awesome. He's learning. Yeah, he's learning from Keith. That's what you do, too. Johnny, you watch players, and you can gain so many skills. Yeah. So Luke does a lot of nudging. He does. He's a very heavy-handed player. Don't tell him. You can play melody at D82 sometime. He loves the tilts, but he also can get away with some great nudges. Double bonus. Great live catch. That was impressive. Yep. I'll give that spinner a B+. It'll be interesting to see if they end up playing Johnny Mnemonic with that very, very friendly tilt. I would love to see some Johnny later. Johnny. Yeah. Very tight tilt. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, sure. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Luke is working on what he needs to work on here. I mean, it's just going to be a grind here. But, I mean, there's... Yeah, I know. So in qualifying, I don't think I've ever dealt with a double roll. So, like, when I'm getting close to rolling a game, I've got to track down a scorekeeper. Do I have to get the same scorekeeper to be like, Hey, I'm going to roll this thing again. They confirm. I had someone tell me they rolled it and it was 20K on ball five. And I was like, okay, yeah, obviously. You definitely did. Actually, you know what? That happened in Classics when Daniele rolled twice Karhoff. Yeah. Yeah? And he got $240 million on Karhoff. Wait, really? $240 million on Karhoff. That's six hours of qualifying. I wish that was on camera. I don't know how that's possible. But everybody saw. Took him an hour probably. I was going to say, that was half the qualifying time. Keith is in a whole other galaxy on this game than everyone else right now. He's going to roll it again. He fought off the insert cup there and just sent it back off the rubber. Oh, look at that little. Did you see that little? Yeah. Beautiful little tap he said he does. He's like, put it. He's like, yeah. I love Keith's little half smirk. I took his jacket off, so he's getting serious now. I love his little half smirk whenever he gets the power out one. He's like, you dare to test me with this? But this is not over. No. at all this is still my four right yep it's great there's still time here although it's gonna be really theoretically look it's still do something yeah yes any of these players could in fact no keith is actually playing his part because keith needs to go needs to be second in order for luke to have a chance yes so luke needs to pass keith yeah yeah that's all yeah keith is ruining the tiebreaker right now with his with his game attempting to yeah all right it's got the double bonus dead bounce over yeah a little late on that spinner and he is punished for it. So he's got what, about 600,000 I see there? Yeah, 608 to Escher's 7. It's going to get very, very... No, that's not Escher, right? Is that Escher? That's Luke. Oh, that's Luke that has 700. Escher's in danger here. Escher's got 3, I think. Yep, 316 looks like, Austin. Luke needs about a million right here. About a million? Yeah. It sounds like not much. Yeah. just about a million yeah attack from ours pays way more than that on the shot oh oh he tried I don't worry that was pretty good move without tilting loose I'm I just a little bit on ball five if something goes up I found all the high stakes they seem a little loose from watching the score keeping and stuff going on so when you're paying 50 bucks a card you want to live it a little yeah I sure gets the min bonus there on the saucer. So I sure is really behind the eight ball right now because he really needs a big ball here. Catch up with Kaylee and I stopped. Nice drop catcher. You don't. Oh wow, that was so fast it bounced off the pin there and didn't go out. Oh yeah, survived it. Snudge that was very scary and risky. Yep, playing with the food a little bit down there. I feel like you don't want to walk up to ball five on an EM to being down big so you want to try to get some some headway here yeah we're not he's at 400 600 that's where Kelly's every no nice get really good patience down there look at that he's really good at one hand slap saves too I've noticed Oh Trust sometimes I live in so right now he's a 400 nice drop catch chopping wood baby yeah watch that sure come back from like three million down on the game of BMX. Oh, no. Because unfortunately, these kind of games are going to do that to you. He's caught up. Yeah, I will never count him out at all. Yeah. They're pretty much even, aren't they? Oh, Keith's shirt says Power In Lane. Power In Lane. That's not what it is. That's what it is. I think the game was giving him that ball game. Keith is just making this more difficult for Luke with every single shot that he makes. Yeah. and he's going to double roll it. And he's just, just double rolled just by a scoop. Did he double roll it? He had 50K. Yep. Wait, was that a bell? There it is. A boom! The double roll. Keith with only an 8,000-point game. Wow. What a terrible player. Only 8,000 points. I think it was a double roll lobster, not a triple roll. Unless I missed another 100K before we got him on stream. Can you imagine telling the designer of this game back 50 years ago, hey, people are going to double roll it. Not enough digits, Bob, on the reel. Did you just add another one, please? He's like, what? What do you mean? Nobody's going to get a million. Yeah. I think Keith needs to celebrate with a lobster roll. Oh, boy. He left the door open. Oh, it's five. Escher has five, right? And Kelly has six? Yeah, but no, well, Escher has 599. Yes. All right. Kaley has 680. 680. So, I mean, okay, so Luke right now here, he needs a miracle. He needs a roll. He needs 1.3. And then he needs a double roll. Yeah, he needs 1.3 mil right here with this ball. If he does it, my gosh, this is going to be crazy. I'm going to run over and hug him if he does this. You know what? I think we all should. If he does that, we all take off our headsets if we go hug him. All right? Yeah. You're in? I'm absolutely in. Yeah. The only thing better than seeing a huge ball in pinball is seeing a huge comeback ball in pinball over that. Yeah. Absolutely. And the best thing is we don't have to feel bad because it doesn't matter to Keith. Yeah. Keith is like, oh, yeah. I'll join in the hug. Oh. Get it back in there. Yeah. That's it. And it was a tilt, by the way. Yep. Regardless, great finish for Luke. Yeah. Big payday there for him. Absolutely. What was it, $1,500? Yep. Getting in on his last card of the day. I submitted that for him. So well played, Luke. Eight plays, $1,500. How about that? Solid. That's better than your local monthly is going to pay. For playing pinball, guys. For playing pinball. For playing pinball. That's great. My lines always get free pinball. That's what I'm always trying to do. And I'm definitely in the black. So I'm good. Good. Good. Yeah, it's always good when you get to pay for the trip and, you know, pay for the entries. All right. So Escher, 100,000 about. Actually, no, not about. He wants the AB big. Didn't get it. Now he's in danger. Oh, the insert cup helped him. Oh, boy. Yeah, the insert helped him. Oh, no. It's over. My pick. It's over. You lost your pick, too. I did. They're dropping like flies. We lost all of our picks. Except for Brian. Brian is still on. Oh, my. That was a lazy pick. I know. Oh, boy. He's only won it once. That's true. Jim Belsito stepping up here. Jim providing the games. Yes. Fixing the games. Thank you, Jim. Tournament rulings. Playing in the tournament. Yeah. Making the finals and open. Yeah. How many hours did he work? I don't know. What a guy. Oh, my gosh. What a guy. These machines all run great. Yes, they do. They were nice, actually, right? They weren't, like, super bad or super hard. They're nice middle. They're a little hard. They're fair. Yeah. They don't feel unfair when playing them. They were great. So, gents and ladies, that was the first round. Yeah. That was it. Well, that was a semifinal, so after this is going to be the finals. We got Keith. Keith? Yeah. We got Escher. Escher? No, not Escher. No, not Escher. Keith Caley. Keith Caley. Keith Caley. Robert and Jermaine. Robert and Jermaine. Yeah. That's right. Wow. That's going to be an interesting finals. It's been nice hanging out with you guys. Yeah. Absolutely. It was. Thank you, Chad. Thank you guys for participating so much and for following and subscribing and gifting subs and making a hype train and all that kind of fun stuff and remember the winner gets fifteen thousand dollars thousand dollars i mean that's uh that's what that's like a small used card right i mean that's not too bad small used calls today's pricing with inflation i don't know i think used cars like 20 25 i would buy a tip on machine what are you talking about you could buy a few for that price so i don't know about a few a few ish depending on the one you could buy keith's newest game for almost that. I know. If you're buying an LE, that'd be an LE. About 10 for the premium. Like a nice Godzilla. Yeah. All right. I won the one at the Shoopy and then paid up for a premium. So solid. But I bet you can't buy that new, what is it? The new Bond. The new Bond or anything. But we're going to take a break and we're going to have the finals right now coming up. Yes. Stick around, guys. Stick around. And the new finals. So thanks, everybody, for watching so far. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll see you next time.
  • Grand Prix is approximately 50 years old

    high confidence · Host reflects 'It's crazy how great this game looks for like what, 50 years old?' referencing the machine's age

  • @ 14:25
  • “Oh my gosh he's right it is 4 69. oh no no you're kidding one nice little sponge”

    IE Pinball host (Andy or Brian)@ 20:38 — Reaction to extremely close scoring (469 vs 470) and equipment behavior (spongy flippers) affecting outcomes in EM games

  • “I started with a four and then zero zero boom gone and see you so demoralizing it's like what I started with a zero, got a four, and I'm like, yeah, I can do this.”

    IE Pinball host (personal tournament reflection)@ 23:02 — Illustrates the psychological impact of the 4-2-1-0 scoring format and swing dynamics in multi-game tournaments

  • “15,000 people watching for $15,000 first place. Wow. So you guys are all watching, like, somebody with, like, two little sticks and, like, pushing a ball around? That's insane.”

    IE Pinball host (Brian/Andy)@ 23:59 — Reflects on large viewership for live pinball tournament streaming (15,000 concurrent viewers), indicating strong community engagement

  • “Pinball is very worldwide. What about Antarctica? I'm thinking somebody at the basin on Tarnica might be watching too, maybe.”

    IE Pinball hosts (playful discussion)@ 25:09 — Lighthearted acknowledgment of global pinball audience reach across diverse geographies

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    high · Hosts explain multiball mechanics and Andy's conservative strategy: 'whatever it's on, he just starts multi-balling. Okay, so you're conservative. Yep, I am conservative. Okay. What about you, Brian? I at least want 3X on it'

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    market_signal: $40,000 total prize pool with $15,000 for first place, exceeding World Championship first prize. $1,500 guaranteed for top 8 finalists.

    high · Hosts confirm '$40,000 prize pool, I believe, yes? $15,000 for first place. It's actually more than the World Championship, right? Than the actual first prize for the championship'

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    content_signal: INDISC 2023 semifinals drawing 15,000 concurrent viewers on IE Pinball stream. Global audience including Australia, New Zealand, and diverse international locations.

    high · Host states '15,000 people watching for $15,000 first place' and chat discussion confirms 'A lot of Colorado. The internet' and 'Australia, New Zealand. Yeah, pinball is very worldwide'

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    competitive_signal: 80 players competed for 8 playoff spots in qualifying round. Format was $500 entry for exactly 10 balls/entries with rebuys possible. Daniele Celestino-Aciari qualified on final attempt tied with Luke Nahorniak.

    high · Hosts confirm '80 players, yeah. 80 players' and 'the format was $500 for 10 entries' with note 'Daniele, his last attempt, his time ran out' and qualified 'Last spot tied with Daniele'

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    competitive_signal: Robert Byers (1 seed) may have strategically selected Grand Prix to exploit perceived weaknesses in Eric Stone (4 seed), who is characterized as a control player less comfortable with live catch/sponge situations.

    medium · Host speculation: 'I wonder if maybe Robert knew about it and he picked it on purpose because he's saying, okay, let me play Tee'd Off their weaknesses'

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    gameplay_signal: Top qualifying scores on Grand Prix reached several million points, suggesting high-scoring potential and skill-based performance differentiation.

    high · Scorekeeper reports 'I put in there or similar interjection several millions' and later clarifies 'several million point scores' for qualifying round high scores

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    venue_signal: Grand Prix machine shows age-related wear: spongy/springy flippers affecting ball control and trapping; score reels slightly misaligned affecting readability; insert wear potentially affecting ball path after ~50 years.

    high · Hosts observe 'spongy flippers' and 'That's the sponginess that gets you, too' and note 'insert action there or not. Johnny Pinball's talking about sometimes the inserts kind of wear on these older games'

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    competitive_signal: Historical high stakes winners noted: 2019 Jason Wardrick, 2020 Jim Belsito, 2022 Keith Elwin. Keith Elwin has won 'almost every year' per host expectation.

    medium · Hosts reference '2019 it was Jason Wardrick. 2020 it was Jim Belsito. 2022 was Keith Keith Elwin' and earlier speculation 'I expect Keith Tee'd Off dominate since he is, I think he has won it almost every year'