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Tribe Multiball with Rachel and Tim, Episode 32: Tim Lee Sucks at Podcasting!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Oct 17, 2022
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TL;DR

Rachel and Tim discuss summer pinball tournaments, personal updates, and upcoming IFPA rule changes.

Summary

Rachel and Tim host episode 32 of Tribe Multiball, a two-person solo episode covering their recent pinball activities, personal life updates, and tournament experiences. Rachel discusses her summer off, running Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournaments, and supporting young player Cassidy Milonowski's tournament wins at WOW 2 in Fort Wayne. Tim shares updates on his divorce, District 82 league play, and IFPA rule changes for 2023 affecting tournament scoring.

Key Claims

  • Cassidy Milonowski won two tournaments at WOW 2 in Fort Wayne (Friday night knockout and the main WOW 2 tournament) and earned approximately $1,100 from the main event

    high confidence · Rachel discussing Cassidy's tournament performance in Fort Wayne

  • Cassidy Milonowski is 16 years old and all of her top 20 WPPR points are from District 82 tournaments, specifically Ladies Flip Wisconsin events

    high confidence · Rachel explaining Cassidy's point distribution and why it was important for her to play WOW 2

  • Rachel's largest women's tournament at District 82 had 39 women (past Sam May)

    high confidence · Rachel comparing attendance numbers across her women's tournaments

  • IFPA is changing tournament rules for 2023 to require tournaments to be worth 100% of possible points, with the current seven-round single-game format no longer meeting this requirement

    high confidence · Tim explaining IFPA rule changes to Rachel

  • District 82 experimented with a four-round, two-bank format with top 16 playoffs, which Tim believes will be worth 112% under new IFPA rules

    medium confidence · Tim describing District 82's experimental tournament format and speculating on future point values

  • Tim won a side tournament at District 82 this past summer for the first time, earning approximately 27 points

    high confidence · Tim discussing his tournament achievements

  • Tim recently celebrated his 25th wedding anniversary with his wife Amy in the Finger Lakes

    high confidence · Tim sharing personal updates during the episode

  • Cassidy Milonowski keeps more than two full notebooks of detailed notes on every game she plays, including information about nudging techniques and plunger placement

    high confidence · Rachel describing Cassidy's study methods and preparation approach

Notable Quotes

  • “I just feel like I have better control, like you said, and I can hit things much easier without that third ball on the play field.”

    Tim @ early in episode — Personal playing preference regarding multiball configuration

  • “she is under the age of 21. She's 16. For her to go somewhere else and be able to play a bunch of games in a tournament against women that are just the best in the country”

    Rachel @ discussing Cassidy's WOW 2 opportunity — Explains why Rachel felt it was important for Cassidy to travel to compete

  • “I love you Amy and it was a fabulous time and she actually purchased me a case of a scale house cream ale because she noticed i liked it”

    Tim @ discussing 25th anniversary — Personal appreciation for spouse's thoughtfulness

  • “women's pinball is just something of a feeling of familiarity, of knowing that women are much more likely to say, good ball, or I see you're setting up your multi-ball or that was a crappy dream, but you're set up for your next ball”

    Rachel @ discussing women's pinball community — Describes the supportive culture within women's pinball community

  • “it's such a community. I really, really am so glad that I took a chance running Ladies Flip Wisconsin”

    Rachel @ reflecting on running women's tournaments — Expresses satisfaction with community building efforts

Entities

RachelpersonTimpersonCassidy MilonowskipersonLadies Flip WisconsinorganizationDistrict 82organizationWOW 2 TournamenteventIFPAorganizationChicagoland Bells and Chimes TournamenteventAmy

Signals

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    community_signal: Rachel's Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournaments creating measurable community outcomes: player development, first-time winners, skill advancement

    high · Rachel reports running tournaments across Wisconsin, mentoring players like Cassidy, and creating opportunities for new winners like Christine Doherty

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    community_signal: District 82 identified as a significant competitive hub with multiple top-100 IFPA players and active tournament infrastructure

    high · Tim mentions 'several top 100 people' at District 82 league and describes ongoing tournament experimentation and updates

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    community_signal: Rachel's work running Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournaments providing opportunities for women players of all levels, particularly younger and newer players

    high · Rachel discusses running multiple women's tournaments throughout the year, specifically mentioning opportunities for Christine Doherty's first win and other women gaining their first hardware

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    competitive_signal: District 82 experimenting with alternative tournament formats (two-bank, four-round) to improve point qualification opportunities while maintaining competitive standards

    medium · Tim describes new format tested in September with positive reception, potentially becoming standard under 2023 IFPA rules

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    event_signal: WOW 2 tournament in Fort Wayne established as significant women's-focused pinball event with growing attendance (36 women in 2024, goal of 100+)

    high · Rachel describes attending WOW 2, Cassidy's two tournament wins, and organizers' stated goal of reaching 100 women competitors

Transcript

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Hey, Poor Man Tribe and listeners, this is Glennie Rogers, and you're listening to the Tribe Multiple Podcast with Rachel and Tim. Poor Man Tribe's the thing, that is who we are. It is true. They're not in this thing, so how could it go wrong? Flip away with us, to an old blockade, and then we'll learn about each other. From two pennants to another Uh-huh Hello everyone and welcome to Tribe Multiball. I'm Tim Lee and I'm here with my co-host Rachel Risto and we're here to bring you episode 32. Tribe Multiball is usually a podcast where we focus on the members of the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast Tribe but today um we don't have a guest we're going solo rachel how does that sound it sounds fine by me uh in a multi-ball you need at least two balls and there's two of us we're good yeah yeah we're golden that's my specialty two ball multi-balls i i actually prefer that over three ball not gonna lie sometimes it's too much traffic on the table if you know what i mean you know what i do usually when you have the green button lit to do like a you know to do an add a ball, I'll sometimes play with two balls and I won't use that until one of the two balls drains because I would prefer a two ball multi-ball over a three ball multi-ball. I just feel like I have better control, like you said, and I can hit things much easier without that third ball on the play field. So yeah, that's absolutely playing astutely as my grandfather would say. So I tell you what, I know I apologized the last episode. I know you've been antsy to do an episode but man I have been so busy in life that I am the reason that it took us so long to get to another episode just just crazy stuff yeah yeah just crazy stuff I would much prefer for both of us just to enjoy life and our podcast is a beautiful little cherry right on top of it right yep but uh yep yeah my daughter started to play soccer and I didn't realize they have like three games a week and she's a feisty little one and she plays really aggressive so i make sure i go to every game because she's fun to watch so but that takes up half the week and then just work and life the other half of the week but hey we're back episode 32 we are episode 32 yeah so what have you been up to let's let's start there oh man well i suppose we should start with Well, I'm thinking about it because I think our last episode was the end of August. So I got divorced. Okay.
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    technology_signal: IFPA implementing rule changes for 2023 affecting tournament scoring methodology and point allocation structure

    high · Tim explains detailed changes to tournament qualification requirements, moving toward 100% point tournaments and experimenting with new formats at District 82

    • Which is good. It's a good thing. Very amicable. Yeah, it is. And kind of in reflection, I think that a lot of things like that day, not like I was feeling bad. I felt really good about going into that day. We went and had drinks together. It was a good day. Oh, okay. But I think that I felt like kind of stifled, like all my creative stuff. Like I had to get past that day in order to move forward with other aspects of my life. So it's been kind of freeing in that way. So it's been really good. You know, that's a significant moment. You know, you're working, you know, that's a, you know, you're going into the next chapter of your life. So I could see that being, you know, kind of a point where, you know, you said it's a good thing, but you can exhale after that, right? And kind of move on with some of the cool things you got coming up. Absolutely. I keep having these amazing opportunities. Like this big wave is coming, so I better start paddling. Yep. That's the way I feel. Paddle fast. I went to Fort Wayne, Indiana, and I played the WOW 2 tournament at the end of August. That was fun. I was able to play with a local with Cassidy Milonowski, also made the trip down there.
    4:02
    I was so excited to have her there. uh she i was undecided about going down to play that tournament because i had played very up and down all summer i think part of it too is like my my pending divorce and just changing things in my lifestyle just other things you know it just took me i didn't realize how much other my pinball brain was being used up by other stuff anyway so i'm glad that i went because it's really all about going to support her. Now, Cassidy, if you look at her top 20 points that she has, they are all at District 82. I'm pretty sure all of them are at District 82. In her women's division, it's all the tournaments that I put on with Ladies Flip Wisconsin. So I thought it was really important for her as a player to go down to Fort Wayne because she is under the age of 21. She's 16. For her to go somewhere else and be able to play a bunch of games in a tournament against women that are just you know that are the best in the country okay so if you've been following along she won not one but two of the tournaments that weekend she won the friday night knockout and then the and i stayed with her until the final game and she won on the game called knockout which is wonderful fantastic uh final tiebreaker and that type of format and the next day she won the wow two tournament uh i think there was 36 women that came to play his goal really is to get 100 so he can raffle off a pinball machine maybe next year but 36 was an improvement from last year and i know that it is hard to get lots of women to come play i think my biggest one was this past may a district 82 with 39 women lest i digress uh cassidy she went on to win that tournament and it was by a very tiny fraction that she won because of an automatic tiebreaker and she won over Rebecca Hinsdale. And Cassie took home, I believe, $1,100 from that tournament, which is, that's incredibly impressive. She also gained so many women's points that she was the stern mover and shaker in the women's division for that month. So congrats to her. She is an amazing player. And And, again, what a great opportunity for her to go down there and show everyone that she can adapt and play games. We played, she and I actually played in a bank of games together during that WOW tournament, and it was no fear, and she had never played no fear before. And she went up and read the rule card, watched. One other player knew how to play it. I knew how to play it a little bit. She went up there and on ball three just blew the game up way out of the water. She just really is an incredible player to watch. I also am so happy to call her my friend. She came down. We went kayaking this past summer together.
    6:55
    She's such an incredible player, such a nice human being. I can go on and on about Cassidy for everybody else. I haven't figured it out yet by now, but she's my friend. I'm just so proud of her. Yeah, you introduced me to her one time. She was a very nice young lady. So what is her game? I know you said she didn't know the rules on No Fear, but is she like a rules person? Does she have just like good ball skills? Or is she just the right combination of everything? She has, Cassidy has more than, I believe she's well into her second notebook of notes on every game that she plays. She also keeps track of her own high scores, keeps track of the way that she has to nudge a game in order for it to go into the saucer. Or exactly where on the plunge, the top, the tip of the plunger needs to be, or the, I don't know what it's called. They call it the washer. I don't know what it is, but the little round circle. What is that called? I don't know. The underwater? I don't know. Is that what I'm talking about, though? Yeah, I do. I don't know what it's called.
    7:57
    We'll see who the first person is that corrects me or confirms that. But anyways, where that is on a game, those kind of things. Her nudging skills have come along tremendously, I would say, in the past year. I think that it's really she just knows how to play the game. She figures it out. She's a quick learner. Yeah, awesome. Well, that's great. Yeah. Great. Congratulations. Now, that's pretty cool stuff. Yes. There was also a third tournament, which was an herb style tournament that Deborah Tallman won. A what style? An herb style. I don't know what that is.
    8:32
    Oh, okay. So it was where you pay, I think you paid $20, and you got to go into a separate room and play the game. And I think it was like Old Chicago was one of the games, I believe. and you got to play the game and keep trying to get a higher and higher score. But you went into a – it's like you move into a queue. You're the first player in the queue to play the game, and other people might queue up behind you to play it next. Or if your score is junky, you can dump the score and, you know, try again in order to get a higher score. But that one was nice because it was only one – you only had to pay for one card, and it was endless entry. Okay, that's what I was going to ask. Yeah, yeah. Right, and there are some tournaments where – more of a pump and dump, where you're going to complete multiple cards. Sure, okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. In order to get your high scores on the card. I've not played one of those, and that terrifies me.
    9:25
    No, no. Yeah, I played in a pump-and-dump tournament at AK's tournament, and I liked it, but it did cost me a lot.
    9:33
    Right. So you have to take that into consideration. So, hey, do you know when the last time I saw someone play No Fear was? When? At Pinball Olympics a year ago, I watched, I think, Glenn Wechter play on the treadmill. Yeah, yeah, I was, I don't know. Glenn's like, hey, can you cut the sleeves off of my shirt? And he made a bandana, and I'm pretty sure the game was no fair. I haven't seen it since then, so, but yeah.
    10:00
    When you said that, I just thought of Glenn on the treadmill. I'm like, dear Lord, there's Glenn. I actually played it in a private collection then afterwards. I also play in the Fox Cities Pinball League, which is a house league that Tom Graff, Eric Strangeway, Dave Anderson, District 82, as Eric Thorne is part of the Accesses Collection, the state travels around. And I was able to, back to back, two months in a row, it happened to be in the same location just because of people's calendars. And it was so cool because it was in a barn on a farm in rural Wisconsin near Green Bay. and I was able to play No Fear there. The host was amazing. Host and his wife, they're absolutely amazing. It was a full bar inside. I did post, I think, I posted a video of it, maybe on the fan page, but I'll have to. It was just incredible, these collections, and I get a chance to go play. So I did get a couple more games on No Fear, and I was able to take that game when I played it. But I remember that one had a pretty tight tilt.
    11:05
    Just really neat. the collections that you're able to go play yeah i actually yep yep i actually went about three weeks ago to a local collection a gentleman has a hundred games but it it is house that weekend he had about 50 to 60 games i think and just games i wouldn't get to play like he had um williams indiana jones but he bought it new in box so he's had it since the game came out and it shot like a dream you know i i've played that before but just he takes such good care of his games you know that the medieval madnesses and the attack from mars type of games and the diners and so forth but i was going to give a shout out to to uh kurt and joe lee him and his wife for inviting over the the folks from the penn state pinball tournament series and they had a taco bar they opened up their house and had a taco bar and obviously they had all the beer you can drink so thank you both for opening your house, but that's great. You know, that's one of the things you and I talked about. It's fantastic that these folks opened up their homes for, you know, people to go and just check out the games. Maybe you will start your own house league. You know. Between yourself and Mistress Anne. Oh, I could win.
    12:21
    And other, when she comes on the podcast, we'll talk about it. Things along those nature. That's how things like that develop. is you find a couple other pinheads in your community and you all have a bunch of games, you know, a bunch of players. You might as well get together one Saturday night a month or a Sunday afternoon to get together and play. Yeah. That's awesome that you got to go see somebody else's collection. And that's interesting. That was the game that stuck out to you more was Indiana Jones. Yeah, I don't know. It just, it shot like a modern game. And he's had it forever. Okay. I got us off track, so.
    12:58
    That's okay. whatever i mean this we're sloppy we're just i'm having a beer you drinking i am drinking i am drinking a cream ale from scale house brewery in um the finger lakes in new york because i just got back from the finger lakes i spent a week well i went up there with amy lee and mr sam broke out let's just say that and we celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary together in the in the finger lakes and i love you amy lee and it was a fabulous time and she actually purchased me a case of a scale house cream ale because she noticed i liked it and she went and got a case for me so love you babe and i had a great time years 25 years 25 years 25 years everybody cheered to Tim Lee and Amy Lee on 25 years. That's amazing. We had a fantastic time. I'm drinking America's Oldest Brewery Yingling Hershey's Chocolate Porter.
    14:04
    You can't get them around here. I had to import that for my last trip. I think when I was in Louisville. I saw them and I stuck them away in my fridge and now I'm enjoying them. They're really good. Actually, Amy likes that beer a lot. I would say it's one of her top three. She takes a shot of Screwball and drops it in a glass and then pours the beer in the glass and it has that like peanut butter cup taste it's and i tried it it was really good so you uh that's a good one well there is a liquor store on the way home so i'm telling you that is uh that is the somebody turned amy on to it and she does it all the time screwball and um yeah in the in the hershey's chocolate porter no fantastic all right so you went to fort wayne i know you've done some other pinball things yep i did of course Of course. In September, let's see. Well, we'll switch to District 82 in September. Playing my regular league, aka Tiltin Tuesday Night, which is a main tournament, which is seven rounds. Generally, it's seven rounds. We'll talk about that.
    15:09
    The IFPA is changing its rules for 2023. three so in order to get 100 percent total games played tgp to get your tournament to be worth 100 points it has to be a specific style and the current style that we play with seven rounds top eight go on play finals will no longer be worth 100 so eric at district 82 we experimented the first night of league or tilt and tuesday our first tilt and tuesday of the month with doing different style of doing four rounds, but it's a two-bank round, playing with the same people, still 7-5-3-1 scoring. And then he took the top 16 for playoffs.
    15:52
    And so I actually really like that. The usual style is where we just play seven rounds of a single game. So here we're actually really just playing one more game. It took about the same amount of time. The side tournament might go away for next year, But the side tournament right now, I think it's only worth 64% or 65%, something like that. And what that is, it's a single game. Everybody plays this past week was Frontier. Everybody plays that game. The top eight scorers move on into a semifinal and final. And I actually won a side tournament this past summer at District 8. It was the first time winning a side tournament. That was like 27 points or something like that, which was really freaking awesome. Yeah. Anyway, I'm like all over the place. Yeah, well, I'm kind of a dumbass when it comes to rules because I don't read them. What do you mean 100%? I've actually played in tournaments, but what do you mean to get 100%? So based upon how many games, how many players, how many games, and the style of event, the game, the tournament is weighted differently. Yep. So, like, you want to be able to make the tournament worth 100% of points. Otherwise it can only be worth like 80% of the possible points. Oh, so you're looking for the best scenario to get 100% of the points. You looking for the best scenario to provide your players with the most opportunity to get the most amount of points maximize their points in that one tournament You want players coming to your tournament where they can get 100 of the points available in that tournament style and not get only like 45 That's a waste of a player's time if they're only getting, I mean, still practice, it's good to go play. I shouldn't say waste of a time, but it's harder for them to obtain more points. if the tournament itself doesn't qualify for 100%. Does that make sense? Yep, yep, and it does. So are you happy with the rules changes? It sounds like you might be. Yes, because actually, well, I'm sad that the side tournament will probably go away. Maybe. I think he's 50-50 on it. I hope it doesn't because that's an easy way to qualify into something. And with top eight, you have to be pretty darn good. usually it's a game that he's gone through and he's moved the game which means it plays a little bit different so it evens the playing field maybe a little bit uh you know district 82 that that league that's there the house players we have several top 100 people so it can be hard to qualify just to qualify into it uh you have to have a really good game on that one single game you play better walk up to it warmed up but i like i like the tubing where we play total of games. I didn't mind playing with the same players for two games. And he played a classic and a modern. So he played two different style games. And I liked that quite a bit. I think it's supposed to be, don't quote me, but I think it'll be worth 112% because what they're doing, they're changing things a little bit for next year. And that's about all I know right now about any of that. I don't pay attention really to like, right now I'm not worried about it because I'm still, my favorite style tournament for the things I run is a 13 round match play. And we'll just see, I need to look, look at that and see if that's really what's going, if the total points per game is, if that's going to be affected or the percentage is going to be affected in the 2023 rules. But I'm not thinking about that. I'm not going to think about that until January. Yeah. Good idea. Maybe December because you have to submit your tournament 30 days ahead of time. So maybe December, but, but yeah, so it's always, that's something that's changing, but I think that would be good going forward. I would like that. I played actually very well in September with that two bank, four rounds. I came in, ended up in 17th. And the reason is because a bunch of us actually tied in that style of tournament where it was a two bank, four rounds. He took the top 16 for playoffs and I qualified, but there was nine of us that all tied and we had a playoff. I think it was seven or nine of us. But Neil Graff and I both, we all played off on one game in Harlem Globetrotter. And then the people that had the best scores moved on into the top 16 final. Nine-person playoff? I want to say it was like seven. No, I think it was seven. Okay. It was seven people that tied. Still a lot. In the same place, right? And for those final entries. And so we just had a playoff. It was just the way it was. And it was really random pinball math, but that does happen sometimes. But Neil Graff and I both had terrible games in Harlem. So I came in 17th, which was fine. And then the second time around, the 27th, I played really well. I actually came in fifth overall out of 78 people. I had an excellent night playing. But then we went back to the usual style with seven rounds, and you take the top eight people and play off finals.
    20:57
    So I ended up coming in eighth because I did not have a good finals. But still, I picked up fat points for that. I think it was 17-ish points for the eighth place finish. So, yeah, District 82 was really good to me during the month of September. I also played. And then I have women's pinball, Tim, because you know I do it all. I didn't play in any tournaments, by the way, so keep on going.
    21:24
    Okay. All right. so i played the the inaugural chicagoland bells and chimes tournament at i never get the name right anterium interim uh i don't know that's in schaumburg maybe that's where it's at and because my friend erin seiden was running it she came up and helped me with stuff at midwest gaming classic at mgc this past spring and i thought it would be great to go back down there and check out the women's pinball thing she's got going on. She's starting there. It was so much fun. It was a rainy Sunday, but it was a perfect day to be inside playing.
    22:02
    I played okay. I think I was in the top eight. It was a fun tournament style. It was a neat location.
    22:09
    How many women were in it, did you say? The Bells and Chimes. It was 22 players, which I think is amazing. That's a good size tournament. On a Sunday afternoon. I tied in seventh. Tied in seventh. That's okay. That's all right. Yeah. And then I have one more tournament to talk about. One more?
    22:26
    Well, before we get to the super thing, we'll take a break. We'll talk about you, and then we'll come back. We'll talk about the super series. The final women's thing is I ran a ladies' slip Wisconsin tournament. I haven't run one all summer. I haven't done one since May. I had to take the summer off. Sure. We talked about that. Yeah, we did. Went out, did fun stuff, kayaked, hiked, enjoyed it, healing my heart, taking care of me. You know, that was a big part of the best summer ever. And with all the things that are going on this month, which we'll talk about, too, going forward, I'm just not going to have time to do another one this year. So I was able to cram one into the calendar at the end of September at my friend Daryl Vandenlight, his home in Racine and Amanda Schrader. They hosted, we called it Ladies Flip Racine.
    23:15
    It was a Star Wars-themed kind of tournament. because he has a beautiful Star Wars game, all sorts of neat stuff. My current profile picture actually on Facebook or social media is me wearing a helmet while playing Star Wars at his house. Did everyone dress up? No. It was just like the fire and that kind of stuff, and his arcade has a lot of Star Wars-related stuff. That's cool. But, no, nobody dressed up. Sorry. No photos like that. You said, I saw the helmet, and I didn't know if it was like a costume party. No, it was. Oh, that was at a summer flip frenzy. It just happened to be there, and I was playing with my buddy Greg Pitner, and we were just having fun playing. It was a head-to-head type tournament, a flipper frenzy, is what flipper frenzies are.
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    We're just screwing around, and it was our ball three, and he put it on. I'm like, I'll play my ball three like that, and I blew it up playing like that. And after I got it off, I'm like, man, that thing was like, you know, it gets warm in there. But it has like this audio going on. So that was pretty cool. That was really fun. So anyways, Gerald and Amanda hosted Ladies Flip. They're amazing hosts. Did everything right. The games, not a single game broke. He had a little issue with Hobbit, but he was, I think, able to fix it on the fly. He has such a beautiful collection. I had such a fun day. I know the women that came to play, there was a couple of gals came up from Chicago, especially I want to mention my friend Penny that came up to play. Penny and I connected last year, a little bit before Expo. She is such a, she's an old soul, like, and she is an old soul like I am. So that was really cool to have her as a first time coming to play one of my ladies tournaments. I had the top four was, in that tournament was Christine Doherty. It was her first time ever winning a pinball tournament. Oh, nice. Cassidy came in second. Mandy Peel, she came in third. She's also Chicago native. She was her first time ever getting hardware, getting a trophy. So that's super exciting. Yeah, that's really awesome. And Anna Neal came in fourth. And Anna Neal also went on to win the side tournament on Star Action. But it was really an unbelievable day. It just really was. There is such a different vibe. I've talked about this before. Tish talked about this before. But women's pinball is just something of a feeling of familiarity, of knowing that, I don't know, like women are much more likely to say, hey, good ball. Now I see you got your multi-ball set up or that was a crappy dream, but you're set up for your next ball. You know, women, I think, are just more likely to say things like that or maybe more encouraging that way. Not that I necessarily, anybody necessarily needs that, but it's really nice. It's kind of a reassuring thing. It's also an environment where I know that I can turn around and go hug any woman, any woman I want, you know, because if I'm having a bad day playing or I'm just having a bad day, I will say like at Fort Wayne, I will mention this too at Fort Wayne, I didn't play very well. I was having, I would say, an emotionally rough weekend. My divorce was about to happen. I had other stuff going on. I didn't really realize it was affecting me until a couple things brought it up. But I was really able to lean on one or two gals that were just so supportive and just like we can talk about other stuff too other than pinball. But it's such a community. I really, really am so glad that I took a chance running Ladies Hope Wisconsin and doing that. because it's also a fun day with the gals not gonna lie we have a good time we laugh we enjoy it smile all day until my face is gonna fall off that's awesome tell me about what else you've been up to tim lee that's all my that's all my pinball playing that's up to date i don't know if i've done anything i haven't done crap um no i i hey i i did want to tell you a couple places i went so i went to america's largest rv show with justin to sell multimorphic pinball machines this is something yeah and it was quite interesting um because this is something he's planned since he became a distributor that we were going to go to this big show and um he had me he wanted me to come out for the week but i could only come out um for for a couple of full days the the two busier days but we we took weird out and and heist and set it up at america's largest rv show and the concept is fairly simple these recreational vehicles are hundreds of thousands of dollars so if you can afford them right you can afford a pinball machine it was interesting uh i really enjoyed talking with all the people because just you know i can talk and you had a lot of people say hey i didn't realize these things were still in existence you should have had a clicker for every time somebody says that to you like a little clicker you know what i'm saying yeah it got quite it got said quite often but we took the time both justin and i to kind of educate them point out some locations if you know in their area and say yeah no it's booming you know things are happening uh you know just kind of educate them and they would play the machines we had some people that were really interested in the technology. Just a lot of people interested in that type of technology of, you know, what Multimorphic's doing. Just a ton of people, you know, and Justin spent a lot of time showing them the machine, the technology.
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    You know, a lot of techie people were there and really just person after person, you know, just thoroughly impressed with the technology. and then we had a lot of pinheads come by. I had a lot of people, way more than I anticipated. If you would have asked me beforehand, I would have said two or three. I bet you a fifth came by and said, oh, I have a Mandalorian in my basement. Oh, I have the new Chicago remake of Medieval Madness in my basement or Attack from Mars. Just so many people came by that had collections. and we did just a you know a lot of pinball discussion at the rv show how did he do i don't know that's that's none of my business i'm just there he brings me to be the eye candy so i get out and talk to them i get out and talk if you like the ginger if you like the ginger yeah yeah but i tell you what we had a lot of people interested in the line just you know you know people just kept coming through the entire time. A lot of people that were buying these really expensive RVs were very interested in the technology. And I think he said he gave out a full box or two box of cards and it was just kind of neat. You know, it was just, people were all over the board and we introduced, I would say while I was there, no less than three to 500 people to pinball that hadn't seen it in years, hadn't played it, just, just playing and playing and playing. And that, that was that was really worth going and i thanked justin for inviting me i hope he did well but like i said um i don't i don't ask those questions did you did you get an opportunity to play it at all or was it constantly being played so there was some downtime um it was constantly being played but the show's kind of lol at night you know i think after dinner because it goes late it went late into the evening, eight or nine into the evening for like six days. This show was so big. We're not talking 50 or 60 RVs. We're talking thousands of trailers and motor coaches at the, at the Hershey Arena in Hershey, Pennsylvania. The entire parking lot was full, but I did get to play. There was a, there, there was some downtime where I did get to play, but not a lot. You know, as soon as you would start to play one machine, somebody would come up and play the machine beside you. So I would drain the ball, you know, and talk to them. And, um, right. Yeah, so it was a pretty cool experience. I didn't know how it was going to go. You know, he pitched this to me a year ago, and I'm like, okay. And the show just happened in September. And it was, I would say, it was a success from, you know, just the number of people that were playing the games. And if you ever, I've heard people recently complain about the quality of the P3 system. that thing was played for six days without an issue he took it to pintastic no issues we had it out with steven silver at pin brew no issues this was like our third rv show no issues um that thing is that they're you know the new system is solid and it i seen it get hit heavily and it performed well and i was impressed and on that note mine actually arrived yesterday yay congratulations i gotta tell you a story though so i decided that i couldn't wait so amy and i were going to take it into the basement with the escalera and it's a very heavy pinball machine i want to say the the weight on the box was 420 pounds don't quote me on that and the escalera is easy it's like takes all the effort out of it you just go down the steps let the escalera do the work after about four steps it was so big and heavy that i started to lose it a little bit i was struggling and i said to amy i said if you if i tell you to run just run down the steps and go through the door because i'm dropping the machine she's like what you can't drop that i'm like i'm telling you if i lose this thing um i said i should have had more people here to help you know it's very hard to get machines into our basement i said but if we drop it i said if i say run please dear i don't want to drop this machine on you but we made it we just had to go really slow and i was exhausted afterwards but we learned our lesson so it's not set up yet it's sitting there still wrapped up in its spot and uh noah's coming home tonight and um he and maybe a buddy are going to help me get it all set up because you have to lift it you know the 400 and some pounds up from the floor once you get a set of legs on so we're excited yeah i got weird out in the house just haven't played it. Yay. Uh, Hey. Yep. And, uh, I'm really excited for you. That's such a fun game. Yeah. It's, it's, I, it kind of re-energized me when I did play it at the show. You know, I, I hadn't played it for a couple of months. Uh, Justin and I haven't been able to get together, but I got really energized when I did get those few chances to play it. It's, it's a fun game. So we love Steven silver on tribe multi-ball and he did a, he and his team did a fantastic job. Yes. I saw that he just saw Weird Al again. Yeah, he did. Actually, I should say that Weird Al got to see Steven Silver again.
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    He got to check out his music. Yeah, that's right. Steven Silver. I know who he is. That's so awesome. What else is going on in your collection I got a second game yesterday Two games showed up at the same time Yeah I mean Multimorphic they had a backlog It just happened to come in, and I sold monsters.
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    I sold Operator Friend Mike's monsters that he just sold me to buy Operator Friend Mike's Guardians of the Galaxy. So he offered that up to me, and I really like that game a lot. and I said, Mike, I'm going to have to sell this Munsters you just sold me. So I actually ended up selling the Munsters through a fan of our show. So there's a gentleman, you probably remember me talking about him in Pinbrew. His name is Dan, Dan the Party Man. So that's what his buddy Adam said to call him. But he got his friend Adam and he came out and got the game and I told Adam to listen to the show. But Dan, Dan the Party Man is definitely a listener to the show. He always texts me about the episodes and what we talk about. So Munsters went to Dan's friend. I also sold World Cup Soccer. So World Cup Soccer. Why? I don't know if I ever told you this, but every month I take an audit of what games are being played in the basement. And, yep, World Cup went three months with like three plays on it. Oh. Yeah. So I thought it was time to go, and I wanted to use that money towards Guardians. So I'm to the point where I have to sell a game to buy a game because I want to. This is kind of – I don't know if it's newsworthy, but when Bond was released, that's Amy's dream theme. If every time somebody asked Amy her top three dream themes over the past four years, she would say Bond. And whenever she gets to play it, she said she wants to come on the show and talk about it. But we both agreed, her and I, that we weren't going to purchase the premium just because of the cost. Right. What the deciding factor was, Drew and I were laughing about this. I wrote a check for my son's college tuition, and it was less than bond premium. So we're to the point where in my personal life, but when a pinball machine costs more than my son's college tuition, I was just like, eh, it's not worth it anymore. No, not at all. I'd agree with you. Now, we're going to get the pro. The pro hasn't gone up. And I listed my Mandalorian premium for sale to get my lovely wife, Amy, her Bond Pro. And, you know, we went over the differences and she was like, yeah, I don't want to spend that much money for Bond on a wand. I don't know what you call that little thing that rocks back and forth and vibrates, but. A rocket?
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    It's not a rocket. It's actually something. It's something, but yes, I know you mean the, it looks like a rocket and there's like a little horseshoe around it and it vibrates. And it looks like. I felt like a teenager laughing at that. I felt like that might be an interesting feature on a game. I, I kind of, I don't know. I feel, I feel a couple of ways about it. Like one, how could someone at Stern not see that design and not think that looks like a penis? I'm just going to say it. Okay. I mean, it looks like that in nature, and then it vibrates. So, okay, all right. But then I think about, okay, well, James Bond, there is that sex appeal to him, right? He's like that kind of icon, and, you know, he's got all these cheesy, sexy lines and that kind of stuff. So I'm like, well, is it kind of a nod to that? I don't know. I don't recall any of the old movies where his wiener was gone. back and forth.
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    Maybe you guys, maybe you all in Wisconsin watch those X-rated Bond movies, but here in Pennsylvania, we're watching the PG versions.
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    Apparently. Oh my gosh. Made for television movie. Oh my word. That's hilarious. Tim Lee said the word Giggle.
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    I told you, I feel like a 16-year-old kid every time I see it, I giggle. and by the way when you'd sent me a text about that i had told amy hey rachel said it looks like a wiener and she's like oh my god it does i don't know what that says about me but hopefully there's plenty of other pinheads out there that i think that felt the same way about it but yeah i think we'll do a deep dive into bond and queen and you know that kind of the games you know i think once we play them yeah you know we did that with toy story so i think that's okay you know yeah i um amy wants to come on the show because she loves bond and you know she said that's the episode she would like to come on but she wants to play it first you know she wants to play it and enjoy it so hopefully soon november and helicon will have it day one they usually do so we'll go down and play it so we can we could talk about it on the show because that's kind of her jam, those movies. I anticipate that it will be at Expo. I anticipate it will have to be there, right? Right? Yeah. I mean. I would think.
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    It's right in Stern's backyard. It's their new game. Right? Well, you never know. Yeah. There could be production issues or something. You never know what could happen. But, yeah, I'm excited. I'll let you know. I'll let you know how that shoots. Yeah. I have to pull up my pimp Stern Insider, my poor man's pinball podcast tribe insider account. So the only account I use for that is the tribe one. Did you know that? Yes, I see you on there all the time. Yeah, you scan it often, yeah. I do. I never log in to look at the thing, but I just scan it wherever I am. Yeah, I always giggle when I see you on there. So, hey, I did one more thing, and we'll loop back around to you. So I didn't know how this would go, but Amy and I, we went away for, I think, eight total days. And I asked Amy if we could add a day on to the beginning of the trip to visit the Rochester Pinball Collective. And that's a fairly famous pinball collective. And she said yes. So we went to Rochester and we visited the pinball collective. I played for four hours. She played for three and then said her wrists were starting to hurt. You know, she has some issues sometimes with her wrists. So she took a break, but I kept playing. But what a fantastic place. Bruce Nightingale was there. And, you know, I appreciate what Bruce has done with the games. I met Bruce. And there's another gentleman they always talk about, Zach, who was there. I don't even know Zach's last name. You know, he's one of the owners. But I tell you what, Bruce is a fantastic guy. Slam Tilt is one of my favorite podcasts. His games shoot like a dream. I was thoroughly impressed. I've been to a lot of big pinball places across the country, and I haven't seen a place where every game shot like a million bucks. it was just fantastic and i told him that you know i gave him the compliment he said yeah if they're not playing well you know we we get them off the floor and just a good mix of ems and solid states you know and you know the modern lcds um you know spike and you know all the new modern systems just just a great mix and he was nice enough to let me go into the back room and play the new Fathom.
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    And it was having issues, so they had to pull it off the floor to fix it. He talks about that in his last episode. But, yeah, he took Amy and I to the back room, showed us his collection of project games, which was thoroughly impressive, and then let us play Fathom. And, man, it's a fun game. It's beautiful, though. It's such a pretty game. And he let us play on the old rules and the new rules and just kind of made us feel at home, treated us really well. There was a lot of people there, and he was treating everybody really well. So Bruce, Zach, I only got to talk to Zach right at the end. They were switching shifts. But, yeah, if anybody gets the opportunity to go to the Rochester Pinball Collective, stop and see that crew. It was well worth the trip. I'm glad we did it. game shoot wonderfully the crew the owners just just great people really nice clean location and you know what i ended up playing a lot i ended up playing godzilla and avengers because i wanted to try to get the high scores on both of them and naively i thought i could i played every game amy was really proud she played every single game multiple times in the place awesome i only got i I think I got high score one on Avengers AIQ and I couldn't touch their Godzilla scores. But I like Modern Stern, so I often gravitate towards that. Were there any older games you've never played before? Oh, yeah. There was a lot of them. Dipsy something? Dipsy Doodle? Yeah. Does that name ring a bell? That's a fun game. Yeah. Isn't that the game? Oh, it's not Doodle Bug. I'm thinking Doodle Bug. No, maybe it's Doodle Bug. Yeah, no, no. I think it was Dipsy Doodle. yeah i i think it was dipsy doodle that was a cool one i played um there was uh oh shoot there were two games that i didn't realize there was flight 2000 but there was a game beside it that was identical i think it was gamitron maybe but they were like the same game and i never realized it i i remember playing hotdoggin because um dave brennan talked about it on our show so i made where I played it, I'd never played it before, and I'd never played Cheetah before.
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    So I got to play it. It's a fun game. Yeah, Dipsy Doodle is fun. It's got that one where you roll over and it's got the bug in the middle and you're trying to hit the targets. That's a fun game. But I think there's another Doodle game I thought, but yeah, Dipsy Doodle. That's awesome, and Cheetah is a lot of fun too. I like that you played some older games. You tried some other things out too. That's great, Tim Lee. That's how you become a better player. Oh, yeah. Yeah, hoops. Yeah, I played hoops. I'd never played hoops before. Nice. Did you play any competitive pinball? No.
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    You didn't do any tournaments or anything? No. One of the private collections, they had just like everybody throwing money to play Rush. And I played that. And I was the next to last person to go. And the high score was pretty big that night. And my first ball was only 2 million points. my second ball was 30 million points so i had 32 million points and i think like the guy in the lead was like 800 million and my third ball was 1.5 billion points and i won the money and i got the gc and i got the gc so yeah that that was really the only competitive pinball I've done. And it's not for lack of wanting to. Tim Lee's not going to tell the whole story there. But the rest of that story is that the money, instead of taking it as first place, he gave it to the kid that came in second place. Isn't that right, Tim Lee? Yeah. I forgot I told you that. Yeah, he was. You did. And I love that because that's pinball community right there. You're just playing for the GC and having fun. And there's a lot of players that wouldn't do that. And they're still kind of you, Tim. That's why you're the best co-host ever. Yeah, he was just a young kid. was really excited and uh i beat him because i wanted to get the gc and i'm not gonna lie to you i wanted to win but i'm just like give it to second place i'm not taking that money off of that kid he he probably really appreciated and he seemed really happy and thanked me a few times but no i'd be i'd be stoked too if i was him yeah i was just happy for the free tacos at the taco bar isn't that the truth yeah so yeah you all like the free taco yeah that's it rachel i just you know i spent a lot of quality time with my family i really enjoyed the summer i think you know you said you had a great summer we had a really great summer and i just had a really good week with my lovely wife at the 25 year anniversary trip if you're in the finger lakes they have between 100 and 125 micro breweries and wineries and distilleries it's like you can't go a half a mile without like a little micro brewery or winery and it's uh lots of hiking too you you do a lot of your kayaking and hiking there's just tons of of that there's tons of kayaking and hiking there so maybe you can come down sometime and we can all go out to the finger lakes i think there's going to be a day sometime in our future where you're going to come home from work and i'll be in your basement playing pinball i'll just be there and i'll be ticked off because you took my gcs new sterns and i aren't always the best of friends but i certainly do try yeah that's awesome yeah and i think that's i'm so glad that you had a good time with your family and with your beautiful bride uh i think that after coming outside of the pandemic and we're you know coming out of that last two years, last two summers were not the normal summers, I'd say, for a lot of people. So it was nice for some of us to be able to have the opportunity to catch up on the other things in life that we really want to do. Absolutely. Yeah, it's amazing. That's amazing.
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    So I did this other thing last weekend. Oh. I streamed. Yeah. For Fox City's Pinball. Yeah. I caught the end of it. I apologize. guys amy and i shut off the world into saturday night and uh but i caught it saturday night and sunday you were doing a great job thank you i spent i spent a work week and three and a half days basically on stream i want to say it was less than 40 but it was more than 38 and it was not just sitting on stream talking about pinball learning about it watch you know talking about the games people are playing, asking questions in chat, also getting up and playing the rig, trying to implement the things that I just learned after watching and talking about the game. Also trying to juggle people in and out of the booth, making sure that if they were in the captain's chair that they didn't end the stream accidentally by rolling into the computer that's there on the floor and goes on. So it was a lot. I really had the best, best, best time doing it. And I said this on the stream, and I'll say it again, that I do that because it's 100% selfish for me to learn things. It is active learning. I implemented it. I have our regular Tuesday night right after the Super Series, and I played okay. I only had 25 points. My goal is 30. It was not the best of nights. But the games that I did really well on, I was able to implement things. For example, on Tales from the Crypt, I recognized while streaming that game over the weekend that I can just put my right flipper up and that ball will shoot right out of the scoop to it. And it will just sit right there. And it's very easy to shoot it right back in the scoop if I need to. And I found the spinners on that game. Different things. I have a deeper understanding of the rule set now that's on the game that I didn't know before. Even though I play a lot of pinball, I play a lot there, there's 115 games. So it's hard for me to keep all the rules straight and all the extra stuff. I'll stop you right there. I have to give you a compliment. I was only on – I was on for like – I think I was on for like an hour and a half Sunday and just a little bit Saturday night. But what I watched, I was actually – I know you're learning, but I was impressed with your knowledge of the game on the stream. And the last time you streamed, I was impressed with that. Like you know what they're going for. You know their options, where they're at in the game.
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    You were able to say, hey, I think he should go for this. I think he should go for that. I think she should go for this and so forth. And very impressive. I can tell you study your craft and do a lot of pinball playing because it stood out to me when I was like, all right, she really knows her stuff. And not that I didn't think you knew your stuff, but, you know, sometimes that doesn't translate, right, when you're worldwide, you know, on a Twitch stream. Yes. But yeah great job I was really impressed Oh Tim Lee that means I can even tell you how much that means from coming from you I really really appreciate that From the people that I know care about me the most hearing that I might even cry I might have a tear in my eye. I almost have a tear in my eye. That's just so sweet. Well, I took to take, you know, it's a fun thing that I enjoy doing. I have fun doing it. I have fun engaging with people and people coming on stream. The thing with the rules, a lot of people get nervous about doing that or coming on stream at all. They're like, I don't know about any of the games. I'm like, you don't have to. Because once you sit there and you watch, you just talk about the game. People in chat will help you out. But I will say, I did message Glenn. He always gets so much love on our show. I did message Glenn after the Super Series that I finally no longer feel like rookie Rachel. And last year when I did it, I felt like such a rookie, just still learning stuff. And it's really kind of amazing in a year to look. I've moved about 1,000 places rank-wise, which says something, I think. And also right around that. And then I also just being able to people like my cousin, Amy Kessing, came to play. And she overheard me talking to my friend that was there about pulsing the flipper, the Magna Save on Pharaoh. And she overheard that. So we had a conversation about getting back on top on that game, how that one plays, strategy. and that helped her have a big ball three and she won the game so being able to like provide i realized i'm able to provide these tips and tricks and so forth to people you know what they should go for on games in a very succinct manner so that made me feel so so good inside i can't you know it's just it's amazing to like you know you're doing the thing but then to recognize you're doing the thing that's neat so um thank you and again you know that is such an awesome opportunity I just reached out to Tom and asked him if he would like me to do that. I don't mind sacrificing the points. I did play one tournament. I played the 30-point target match play.
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    Classics. It was all classics games. The first was 3-2-1-0 scoring, and the first person to 30 wins.
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    And I really enjoyed that tournament so much, that style of it. I didn't play great. I got 15 points. You know, who cares? But what I really enjoyed was getting on the floor and engaging because there were 150 players there. 150 at District 82.
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    Just a couple stats on that. Out of the top 100, there were 40 at the time, at the beginning of the tournament, there were 40 of the top 100 players that were there. Out of the 150 players, 110 of them were within the top 1,000. So if you're looking to play, this is a place to come play. it was it was it was you know it is it was exciting for me to there's different factions of players there's the local players you know the people that still come out they know they're going to get their butts whipped but they still want to come out play pinball maybe pick up some points but then they get to play with usher or raymond or carl d'angelo who was the overall winner of the super series by the way or they get an opportunity to meet new people or meet or Or there's the faction of new people that have never been there before. You can tell they're new because they're walking around with their phone, taking a video, you know, and taking all the pictures day one. And then you have the people that are the returning players that have been there for two or three big events. And it's fun to greet them. I really, I made cookies. I did royal icing cookies for the event. Oh, nice. Yeah, my girlfriend and I, she cut 200 flipper cookies, and I decorated them all in pinballs and little 2X and 3X multiplier and lock cookies, you know, all the different things that you need. That's fantastic. Yeah. So I have fun. You know, I love doing that. The big events like that, it's like you want to welcome the players there. I'm getting beside myself. But the streaming stuff, yes, it was really so good. And, again, what a cool opportunity. You can go back and watch it. And there's hours of me talking about nothing and everything about pinball and life and my cat and making lasagna and all sorts of things on Fox City's pinball stream on Twitch. Please like him on Instagram and Facebook and all the socials. Tom Graff, he's an amazing, amazing human being. He's so kind that way. We have such a great time. I got to say, I really like Tom. You know, I might have a pinball crush on Tom. I always find myself watching Fox City. He's love his podcast. He's like, he's like the perfect personality on triple drain. And he has kind of a dry sense of humor and which I like, but no, Tom does a fantastic job. I can't stress enough that, you know, we have a lot of listeners, believe it or not. We have a lot of listeners. You see the numbers and you know, so to our listeners, if you haven't tried out Fox city's pinball on Twitch, definitely, you know, follow it and, and go, go watch tom and crew great great stream it's the real deal tim lee you'll have to come out to district 82 and play i do want to say that the other people my favorite people that come into the booth to commentate well neil neil mcgrady came from the the uk so it was he was like the special guest around the booth all weekend okay but my favorite usuals are andy bagwell and jane verweiss anytime those two are in the booth uh andy and i first of all we speak in stereo and sync all the time same cadence reflection in the word it's hilarious and jane she loves coming in the booth for exactly the same reason i am there completely selfish to learn all the things and i love that and so when you have other people that are just as passionate about it as you are it makes it so much more fun uh i just felt again it's feeling such a fancy person having that opportunity to do that. Very fancy. Really? Yeah, super fancy. So what's your upcoming pinball stuff? You're not coming to Expo. No, no. Noah, I was going to surprise everyone, but my son Noah has a big, big race. And I don't know how long this college cross country and track thing's going to last. You know, it's very difficult. When a school gives you scholarship money to be an athlete, it becomes a full-time job, you know, alongside college. And he's doing great. He's doing great in college and he's doing great in running. But, you know, I could tell it is a lot of work for him. So I kind of cherish every college event. And there's a big one that weekend. So I just told the crew, everybody in the tribe, I'm like, I love you all, but, you know, we're going to go to my son's race. So I don't know what's next. I'm going to TPF. I promised Glenn I would come out to TPF. I'm thinking of Pinsonati. You know, if any tribe members, you know, go out to Pinsonati, let me know. And I just started to look around for some more tournaments to play. About mid-October, things start to slow down for me. So I want to get back and play some tournaments because I really like that phase in my life over the summer where I played in, like, numerous tournaments in a month. It really was kind of fun. So I'd like to do it again. Yes. You know, maybe, you know, we can be lucky and Amy and I can get in on the run of the first James Dong. I mean, James Bond. And you mean Mistress Anne? Yeah. One game's for Mistress Anne, one game's for Amy. I'm getting them confused.
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    By the way, thank you, Ian Haberman, for inventing Mr. Sand. It changed my life. Oh, I love that. That's amazing. No, but that – Oh, my. Okay, so I'm going to try to pick up some pieces from there.
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    Well, I will be at Expo. I will be doing – I wasn't even planning on going to Expo, and then I got involved in things, and now I'm going to be there. I am really excited to talk about flipping the script on autism if you've not checked that out on Facebook and also the 32auctions.com slash flipping the script you can check out all these super cool amazing items that have been put together from all sorts of manufacturers donated by people within the tribe I know Tony Scoops and a couple other people have donated different things You should go check out the 32auctions.com and look up Flipping the Script. You can look up Flipping the Script on Autism on Facebook, whatever. Get there. You want to look at this stuff. We're trying to raise $25,000 to benefit a special place in Salt Lake City. It's basically pinball people helping pinball people to help people. That's what's going on here. Just looking to raise enough money so that children can get their qualifications done to find out if they are on the spectrum and get their treatments rolling. And that's a very incredibly important thing. The earlier that you can get the diagnosis, the better. I don't know if you know this, Tim Lee, but I worked with young adults that were on the spectrum for about four years. I did it part-time, and I did my current job part-time. This was a very long time ago. And I worked with one specific gentleman, still in good touch with him and his family. It was the most rewarding job ever because just being able to help somebody transition. He was transitioning from ending school into an adult day program. And just the transition can be very hard. And I had such a wonderful opportunity to help him and be a big part of his life. And I love that gentleman. Anyway, so working with folks on the spectrum is something that's actually incredibly important to me. being able to do something to help others is always important to me i would really encourage you take a look at these items that are out here uh there's like i believe like even like a black and white attack from mars playfield there's all sorts of signed items um different black glasses and mods playfields and all sorts of different t-shirts playfields yep and it's just and here's the deal you spend a hundred bucks on something you really like and you know what that money's going directly to help kids get their diagnosis so i think that's an amazing amazing thing so i bring it up also is because on thursday at expo there's going to be a day-long stream i'm assuming it's going to be on tpn uh that it will be it's all sorts of uh industry people podcasters we're all getting together it's going to be a 12-hour stream starting at 10 a.m that morning your very own porn poor men drew and i will be on with we're gonna be on with josh sharp apparently we're interviewing him so i'm just gonna wing that and uh maybe play some pinball so i really hope you join us that thursday which is october 20th um i'm sure that if you're ready to follow any of uh the pinball network stuff that that will pop up please join me uh have a drink out chat for me i think it'll be a really fun a really fun way to it's kind of like a quite often i've been trying to describe it as a tele a telethon like you know if people call you up on the tv like they had a pbs they used to have a peter paul and mary one that was my favorite peter paul and mary yeah telethon i'm not kidding you i used to watch it all the time yeah i love peter paul and mary that's what i'm saying so it's the same thing but it's a telethon uh with with pinball stuff i I mean, come on, people. I hope you get excited about it and check it out. And I'm also playing Pinball Olympics this year. I'm not skipping it, not missing it because I've done qualifying forever playing in pinball, which was a lot of fun and all that. But I'm so excited to play Pinball Olympics. So if you see me there and we haven't met before or at Expo, just say, holler at me, and I'll be happy to meet you too. Yeah, you can't miss that. You know, back to flipping the script, you know, Josh, Josh Roop and I are good friends. You know, we we talk on the phone from time to time. We message quite often. Scott's a good guy as well. And one of the things that he was telling me, and I just never thought of this, is a lot of these kids don't get diagnosed because they can't afford the diagnosis. The family can't afford the diagnosis. So a lot of this money goes towards early diagnosis and getting, you know, families the money to pay for this diagnosis that the insurance might not cover. You know, once they're diagnosed, then the insurance kicks in. But there's this there's this kind of like transition phase where there's many families that can't afford it. That's right. I didn't know that about you about, you know, working with the autistic kids. We do have a younger gentleman that that's lived with me down the down the road. His dad and I are really good friends, and he's autistic. And I watched him grow through different types of therapy and so forth, from really a young man that you really couldn't talk to to kind of a kid that's working now. He's driving. He's doing things as an adult. And he's a completely different child and always a young man now, and all through therapy in groups like this. So, yeah, get out there. I've been bidding all week. Everybody keeps out bidding me. but we still got a long ways to go. There's the, the bidding's open now, you know, Rachel gave the address and get out there and support them. Cause they next to Rachel and Tim, there's not two nicer people in pinball than Scott and Josh.
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    Absolutely. They are really, really good. Yeah. Super, super nice. The stream is directly going towards learning solutions. It's a Utah based organization that helps with early intervention, autism therapy. So I think what it is, I want to say there was like 31 kids that are children that are in a year-long or more process of their diagnosis. And because the process is so expensive, that's why we're trying to do the fundraising. So I think it's a fantastic thing. And it's something so near and dear to my heart. So I really encourage all of our listeners out there, just give 32auctions.com, flip in the script, a peek. Do it for me. Do it for the other people in your community. It's so easy. I love and Tish will talk about this too it is so easy for pinball people to help other pinball people help people that's it so that's I think part of our brand too other than that I think the only other thing is I'm going to go to Houston Arcade Expo in November I'll be there I will not be a TPF I'm I'll probably do the Starfighters thing in January February whenever it is but uh Houston Expo will be the last thing this year for me it's kind of funny I've done a lot of like pinball traveling i really want to stream tim i really want to stream but like the travel keeps eating into the streaming budget sure so maybe 2023 we'll get uh reach against the machine rolling yeah here's hoping i'd love to see your stream but traveling sounds like a blast get out there and what do they say live your best life i am i am uh and i know that you are too Oh, I wanted to also mention that you had the most amazing T-shirts on, you and Amy Lee. Yes, we wore our Drew Sucks at Pinball shirts to the Rochester Pinball Collective, and some folks recognized who Drew was.
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    It was amazing. And that's all I got. Yeah, that's all I got as well. Rachel, I truly missed you over the last month. I mean, we communicated, but I missed doing the show with you. I love you. I miss our people, our listeners. I miss, I miss. It's great because after every episode, you know, we have tribe members or other people that reach out and it's always interesting conversation. I love that too. Yeah. Love you too. Love you, Rachel. Well, that's all I got. Is that all you got? All right. That's it. Happy flipping. Happy flipping and Drew sucks at pinball. Yeah.
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    When I was a little bitty boy My grandmother bought me a cute little toy Silver bells hanging on a string She told me it was my ding-a-ling-a-ling Oh, my ding-a-ling, my ding-a-ling I want to play with my ding-a-ling My ding-a-ling, my ding-a-ling I want to play with my ding-a-ling When Mama took me to Sunday school And tried to teach me the golden rule Every time the choir would sing I'd sit there and play with my ding-a-ling My ding-a-ling, my ding-a-ling I want to play with my ding-a-ling My ding-a-ling, my ding-a-ling I want to play with my ding-a-ling