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#113 Bram Stokers Dracula - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·2h 12m·analyzed·Feb 27, 2024
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TL;DR

Bram Stoker's Dracula restoration deep-dive exploring game design, multiball stacking, and technician ethics.

Summary

A deep dive into Bram Stoker's Dracula (1993), a Williams pinball game designed by Barry Osler and Mark Springer. The hosts discuss the game's System 11-era design, three multiball modes, and unique 1-1/8 inch 'lightning flippers.' The episode centers on PJ's restoration of a heavily neglected machine, highlighting common tech failures (bubble wrap blocking ball locks, crossed switches, burned-out bulbs), the importance of fine-tuning and optimization in restoration work, and tensions between budget-conscious customers and thorough restoration practices.

Key Claims

  • Bram Stoker's Dracula was made in April 1993 by Williams, designed by Barry Osler and Mark Springer, with approximately 6,800 units produced.

    high confidence · George and Dave discussing game specifications; sourced from documented game production records

  • BSD is the only pinball game that used smaller 1-1/8 inch flippers, called 'lightning flippers,' which make the game significantly harder but prevent it from being too easy.

    medium confidence · PJ states 'I think this is the only game that did it' in response to a question about flipper sizing; presented as expertise but not independently verified

  • The game features three multiball modes: miss multiball, coffin multiball, and asylum multiball, with the ability to stack multiple multiballs simultaneously.

    high confidence · PJ and George discussing game mechanics; corroborated by multiple speakers

  • A local technician ('Bubble Wrap Tech') used pink bubble wrap stuffed into the ball lock assembly as a repair instead of fixing the actual underlying mechanical problem.

    high confidence · PJ describing restoration findings; direct evidence of poor maintenance practice

  • Fine-tuning and optimization of pinball machines—adjusting clearances, testing playfield flow, and ensuring smooth ball movement—is a 'lost art' among many modern technicians.

    high confidence · Dave and PJ discussing restoration philosophy and technician standards; repeated emphasis on optimization as critical differentiator

  • The coffin assembly in BSD contains a virtual ball lock (no physical balls stored inside), and the original 555 bulbs were so heavily burned they welded to their sockets and had to be replaced with LEDs.

    high confidence · PJ describing specific restoration challenges on the Dracula unit being worked on

  • Customers who acquired EM or older games decades ago for low cost (e.g., $50–100) often resist spending $500–1000+ on proper restoration because they don't view the game as valuable.

    high confidence · Dave discussing customer psychology and Pinside thread complaints about EM restoration costs; pattern discussed across multiple speakers

Notable Quotes

  • “There's a bunch of this pink bubble wrap inside the whole under-subway assembly there, blocking the ball. That was that Friar Tech's fix.”

    PJ — Exemplifies extreme negligence in repair; becomes running joke about low-quality technician work

  • “I don't want to just fix a couple things and go, here you go, bring it back, and then I'm going to be married to it.”

    Dave — Illustrates core tension: technician's ethical obligation to do complete work vs. customer budget constraints

  • “It's like fine-tuning an engine. It's like a race car. It has to be fine-tuned. Otherwise, it's going to run but not run right.”

    Dave — Defines professional restoration philosophy; emphasizes optimization as non-negotiable

  • “The left and right lane were crossed, someone put either from the factory or someone took this apart and put it back together.”

    PJ — Reveals assembly error or prior technician mistake affecting game behavior for years

  • “This thing got so burnt that actually this Dracula, I call him Blackula. He's a dark-skinned gentleman now at this point because he's not a white Dracula.”

    PJ — Darkly humorous description of severe bulb burn damage affecting interior figure visibility

  • “That kind of reaction is awesome. But the money doesn't hurt. Money doesn't hurt. No, not at all.”

    Dave — Reveals technician's primary motivator is customer satisfaction and validation; financial reward is secondary

  • “You can stack multiballs. You can be doing, you can have one multiball running and have another multiball running at the same time.”

    PJ — Highlights unique and valued game mechanic that drives collector interest in BSD

  • “I had another copy of this game. And I really wish I had this game still.”

    Dave — Expresses appreciation for the game after restoration; indicates BSD has lasting appeal

  • “At that point, that's better than money to me. That kind of reaction is awesome.”

Entities

Bram Stoker's DraculagameBarry OslerpersonMark SpringerpersonWilliamscompanyGeorgepersonDavepersonPJpersonCryptkeeperpersonGlimmerholdvenue

Signals

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    restoration_signal: Dave emphasizes the critical importance of playfield optimization, clearance adjustments, and ball flow tuning as a 'lost art' among modern technicians; positions it as essential differentiator between basic repair and professional restoration

    high · It's like fine-tuning an engine...fine-tuning and optimization of these things...is fine-tuning an engine. It's like a race car.

  • ?

    product_concern: PJ discovered left and right lane switches were reversed in the BSD unit, either from factory or previous technician error; caused game to behave erratically for years

    high · The left and right lane were crossed...someone put either from the factory or someone took this apart and put it back together.

  • ?

    operational_signal: Significant disparity in technician standards illustrated by 'Bubble Wrap Tech' who used quick fixes (bubble wrap, alligator clips) instead of proper repairs; Dave contrasts this with proper diagnostic and remedial approach

    high · Put bubble wrap in it so the ball wouldn't go in...instead of fixing the wire that's broken somewhere to jump it out.

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinside thread and customer feedback reveal tension between operators/collectors who acquired games cheaply decades ago and expect low restoration costs vs. technicians advocating for full professional service

    high · I only bought the game for $100. If you come up to them with a bill for $1,000...they don't want to put a couple hundred dollars.

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Extensive documentation of age-related failures in the BSD unit: burned-out 555 bulbs welded to sockets, broken rubbers, water damage vulnerability, capacitor degradation on driver board

Topics

Bram Stoker's Dracula game design and mechanicsprimaryPinball restoration techniques and fine-tuningprimaryCustomer relationship management and budget negotiationsprimaryQuality control failures and poor repair practicesprimaryMultiball stacking mechanics in pinballsecondaryCustom mods for pinball machines (Cryptkeeper coffin mod)secondaryTechnician standards and professionalismsecondaryCollector psychology and game value perceptionsecondary

Sentiment

mixed(0.65)— Positive toward the game itself and Dave's restoration philosophy; critical/frustrated with poor technician practices and customer misunderstandings; overall tone is educational and appreciative despite frustrations

Transcript

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They're easy pickin' up a discotheque I'll keep them feelin' like they've been in a wreck You know they wake up all wasted and they never ever check Those two small holes that I leave in their neck Well if they were wise, they would soon realize They're not hungover, they're just vampire rides Cause drags back I wanna fuck your ass Drags back I wanna fuck your ass I'm gonna wait for you on Saturday night I'm gonna give your neck a great big bite You try and find me in the mirror I'm nowhere in sight When you wake up Sunday You will look a terrible fright And when the medical team Arrive on the scene And diagnose what bit you Everybody will scream Tracks back I wanna suck your Oh Tracks back I wanna suck your Oh Tracks back Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George, and I am joined by my counterpart, Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. And we have a special person on the hotline. You folks are familiar. Dave's best friend, PJ. Hello, PJ. Hi, George. Hi, Dave. Hello, PJ. Welcome. Thank you. Okay, I'm going to start with PJ. PJ, did you go to Glimmerhold yet? I've not gone there yet, but they have a couple of nights a week that you can go and preview, and I believe that you can play the games during the preview, but not all the games are up and running yet. Okay. I've already reached out to them to see if they want to come on and do a quick infomercial about their arcade. Dave, you got anything to kind of chime in to get us started? Let's see. If you don't, we'll go right into the heart of the show, or is it the neck of the show? Yeah, the neck of the show. I like that, George. Yeah, very appropriate. Very appropriate. That was just off the top of my head. That was good. That was good. Your choice. Yeah, we can go right into BSD. Okay. Bram Stoker's Dracula. I had no idea how long ago this was written. Have you ever read the literary version from this author? No, I have no interest. How about you, PJU? No, I have not. No, me either. Okay, so we can't talk about that. It's written like 125 years ago or 130 years ago. And I'm guessing it's now in the public domain, so you can pretty much do whatever you want with the story. sounds right. Almost like Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Well, why don't you give us a little background on the game that you've been working on since you've been home. I'm guessing this is one of several since you've been in quarantine. Yeah, pretty much. I've been self, I don't know, self-quarantine kind of, loosely quarantined. I'm out and about, but, you know. Basically, I basically came down with a thing that everybody else did, but it lasted me three days, and then I kicked it out. With all my homeopathic stuff I do, I got rid of it right away. Otherwise, you're into a two- to four-week session. But for him, so does Dracula. Not to be confused with the BSD, not to be confused with SBD, because that's silent but deadly. Dracula is a little silent, and he's very deadly. So maybe they're similar. Or STD? Or STD, it's a little different. But this is BSD. So this was made April 1993. It's a game designed by Barry Osler. Art by Jerry Springer. Oh, wait, no. Sorry, that's Mark Sprenger, not Jerry Springer. Different. Thank you. No chair throwing. No chair throwing, no. Actually designed by Mark, designed it as well as Art. So he did design and Art, and also Barry also did design. They made about 6,800 units. a lot of people compare this game to a System 11 game. It has a very kind of System 11 feel to it, even though it was made in 1993, so it was definitely right in the WPC Ramper game era of the 90s. It has a throwback feel to the System 11. Some people compare it to Taxi. It has three multiballs. It's got a miss multiball, it's got a coffin multiball, and it has a Oh, what's the other multiball? Oh, Asylum. There you go. Asylum multiball. Permission to ask a question? Sure. Go ahead. I don't know if I've ever played this game, but my question is, why did they elect to go with smaller by 1 1⁄8-inch flippers, and I'm guessing this is not the only game that did that? I think this is the only game that did it. These are called lightning flippers. They make the game definitely harder, but I will say you put regular flippers in the game, the game's too easy. So some people want to, you know, if you want to make the game real easy, you put the regular flippers in there, and it's, they're almost like, it definitely makes it challenging to get the sweet spot to go up the ramps and so forth. You have to get it just right versus you get a bigger sweet spot with a bigger flipper. So more or less. Now, did you have familiarity with this game prior to you taking it into your shop? Yeah, I've had other customers out in the field that have done day spas on this particular title in the past. Although this one here, boy, oh, boy. There's a quote-unquote tech out in the Boston area, let's say, who I've been following in many times following his quote-unquote work. Clean up on aisle seven. Yeah, yeah. He's the kind of tech that goes in, you know, quickly fix and give me a couple hundred bucks and leaves. And some of his fixes include, like, jumper wires under the play field instead of fixing the wire that's broken somewhere to jump it out. this one had some of that stuff in it as well, but it also had I was wondering, the guy who gave me the game to restore for me, he's like yeah, the ball lock never worked in the game and so the balls would get stuck so I want to get that fixed and I said okay, so I'm looking at that whole assembly, I'm in there, I'm saying I figured okay, I've cleaned it all out and I found, I called the guy and I found like, well I found your problem, there's a bunch of this pink bubble wrap inside the whole under-subway assembly there, blocking the ball. Oh, no, no, that was that Friar Tech's fix. What are you talking about? No way! Yeah, that was his fix, to put bubble wrap in it so the ball wouldn't go in. Why didn't he just get a piece of duct tape and put it over the hole? I think he ran out of duct tape. So he had bubble wrap, and that's what he used. I'm going to egg this, okay? All right, well, it's a pleasure having you as our first caller of the day and only caller of the day. Thank you for calling in. You're very welcome. Bye, PJ. Everyone have a good day. Happy flipping. Okay. Take care. Bye-bye. Stay lit. Stay lit, exactly, and tilted. So, yeah, so that was his fix. It's like, oh, that's not good. So I said, okay. So I found out the only reason why it wasn't working, there was one wire lug, broken wire to the vertical uptake assembly was broken off. Take a wire stripper, strip it off, solder it on the lug, and voila. I thought you were going to say he clipped both wires and just left them hanging. No, he just didn't want to investigate, you know, what's going on. Because I will tell you, when this guy gave me the game to go through, you know, it was one of these deals where he's got some water damage in the basement, and he's looking for this solution to – originally he wanted me to, you know, do I provide a service? Well, I'll come, take the game, store it for a while, bring the game back, and pay me X for the pleasure of doing that. I said, okay, yeah, we can do that for X to get that done for you. Move it in, move it out, store it for a couple months until your place is all refurbed after insurance settlement and so forth. But on top of that, your game, you know, I looked at his game. I said, your game could use at least a good day spar or a mini refurb at least. And he said, well, I don't want to go too crazy on it. He didn't want to spend a lot of dough and go hog wild like I usually do on an in-house restoration. and said, okay, we'll try to do like a day spa plus on it. We'll try to do like a mini refurb and so I try to keep within his budget, but as I'm getting into the game, I'm finding so much stuff wrong with this game. It's like so many, and I can't just, you know, fix a couple things and go, here you go, bring it back, and then I'm going to be married to it, which goes to that thread. Well, we're going to talk about that. Yes. I printed out that whole thread on his side. Diatribe. So I figured we would handpick some stuff out of there and talk about it. Yeah, definitely. I was reading through it as well. So, yeah, that was very interesting. And I've kind of come – I've had a couple of these circumstances. When you go through enough clients and see enough people, eventually you're going to come on to some people like that. And I'd say 99% of my clients I deal with are sweethearts. They get it. They know what I do. They appreciate what I do. But there's some that don't get it, don't understand pinball, don't understand what it takes, and it's a very small minority, but you're going to run into those types as well. And it's usually not a good fit. So usually I filter those out, and if it goes somewhere else, I want to just do the quick hit. Perhaps Mr. Bubble Wrap Man will be your guy. You can use him. He'll do a great job for you. Put some bubble wrap in there, a couple of alligator clips, and you're off and running, or sort of. So, yeah. So what did you do to the game? So this game has all kinds of weird things wrong with it. As I started digging into it, you know, the bubble wrap situation, there was broken rubbers everywhere at the top of the game. It was like it never got replaced. So I had to take all this crap off the top. And the 3D puzzle with these things, you've got to take it. Taking it off is one thing. Putting it back in the right order, that's a whole other thing. You've got to take pictures along the way so you know the order of operation, how to go back. So I did all that. And then there's also ball clearances. If the things go back together and then knock, you know, you might have to get creative putting some washers in here and there to get enough clearance. Because I try to go one ramp over here. Like there's a middle ramp that goes around underneath the coffin and comes back. Well, that ball kept getting dejected going up the ramp and coming back down because the clearance wasn't quite right for it. So I had to be creative on that. There was some other stuff with another clearance thing where they go through the pop bumpers. and there's another piece of habitrail metal there that the ball will get stuck on. One of the pop-up numbers would get sticky, so I had to adjust that. It's always like what it comes down to with this kind of stuff, and it's a lost art with a lot of techs out there. I don't see them doing it. Maybe they do, but I don't see it, is fine-tuning and optimization of these things. These games, you know, never mind just getting the thing done and restoring it and prevent and maintenance it and, you know, cleaning it. But you also have to be aware of how the game's supposed to play, optimization, and fine-tuning. It's like fine-tuning an engine. It's like a race car. It has to be fine-tuned. Otherwise, it's going to run but not run right. So I called the guy up and I said, listen, you know, is there any more money left on the money tree? Because, you know, I'm approaching the end of the budget here and I've got more stuff to do. And I can leave things alone, like not rebuild the flippers and not do certain things in the game and just concentrate on getting the game running, but I really don't want to because I want this to be a good playing experience for you. So I've gone to, you know, throw a little more money into the kitty, enough that I can get covered to do what I've got to do with the rest of the game without going too crazy. So that was good. Let me ask you a question. I've got a parallel recently. have I ever I guess I have right I've talked about putting in a pool on this podcast maybe not I know you mentioned it to me I'm not sure the podcast has heard it right well anyway I'm putting a pool in at my new house and we're getting to the end with the landscaper and I met with this landscaper back in December you know trying to get a hold of the curb and he's like what the hell are you doing calling me you know the day after Christmas. I'm like, well, I'm trying to get a hold, you know, a hold of somebody so I can get my landscaping put in, you know, in the late winter. Okay. So he gave me a ballpark when we first met. And it was, it was real reasonable. I'm like, oh, okay, we're under budget. And I kind of threw out a number. I'm like, oh, I thought it would be, you know, approaching X. Are you still there? I'm here, yeah. Yep. Okay, I lost you visually, but that's okay. And by the time we're done, I'm up probably another third on top of it. But more work was performed, but more product was also needed, because I think he underestimated what it was going to take to put sod down on my house. Okay. Now, I knew that, but he might not have known that. Is that a forgivable or a non-forgivable? I think it's forgivable. Think about it if you went in and said, oh, you know, it needs X, Y, and Z, and then all of a sudden you come back and go, hey, your DMD's fried, or, you know, this is fried and it's going to be X. Does that make any sense? Yeah, it totally makes sense. Yeah, because I go through it all the time where you go and look at a thing and you see. But I kind of try to give that ahead of time and say, listen, this is what, you know, what you say is wrong with the game and what I think is going to be wrong with the game, but there's always stuff behind the wall you don't see. I'm not going to know until I get really into the game on more stuff. Do I need to order a special part? Do I need to order? I don't know. So I always try to put a little bit, or with my estimate, I always try to give a nice range, a low and a high, to cover any kind of weirdness that might happen. But sometimes it can go above the high side, and when it starts to get towards the high range, I'm starting to go up against it. then I got to make a phone call and say, hey, there's unforeseen stuff here. What do you want me to do? You know, so. Right. But this was unforeseen. You can look at the property and you can estimate how much you need. And he was severely under. Oh, okay. Well, in that case. Other people would press and say, hey, you gave me a quote for X. But the pool wasn't in yet. The pool wasn't in yet, though. So how can he know that? The pool was already in. Oh, no. We're at the tail end. This has all happened in the last three days. Oh, last three days, okay. upset. It's just, you know, how do you say that to somebody and say, hey, you really screwed up? Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. No, some people would press and say, hey, you gave me a hard quote. You said you were going to do X, Y, and Z, and now you're claiming poor mouth because you underestimated. I've had it happen to me before, but I want the job done right. I don't want the person walking off the job and just saying, F you, and you're done. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, plus you want him to do a good job, so you kind of want him to feel... No, he's done a great job. I've had some great contractors. That's not what I'm saying. It fits in here. You kind of see what I'm saying, right? You're talking about maybe a customer who might be upset or not understand. I certainly understand. I'm just saying, how do you bring it to somebody's attention and say, you know, you're really gaffed. It's one thing if you do it by 10%. It's another thing if you're off by 40%. Yeah, so that's a lot more. Yeah, 40%. That's a big – yeah, that's too much. That's kind of like he definitely didn't do his due diligence. So, yeah, has the guy been around? Like what made him not estimate so well? Is he a newbie or something? Yeah, he hasn't been in it that long, but he's doing a terrific job. That's the best part about it is, you know, all my other contractors are like, this guy is really doing a really nice job for you. I go, yeah, I know. I've met some other people. And there's a lot of – they call them highwaymen, you know. roll in quickie and take the money and run oh okay so you know they were talking so you know you gotta vet people and you know for you you can pick and choose as any contractor can and say i want to do the job or not i had another contractor con you know give me an estimate for the same work double the price. Wow. Right. So I guess what I'm saying to folks is be grateful that, A, you've got a guy like Dave who tells you what the story is up front, and he performs and does what he's supposed to. Is he inexpensive? No. But if you want the job done right, and there's just some people that, you know, they want to go to the local garage and say, oh, my car's broke, fix it. And the guy bandages it back together and fix it. It's another thing you can go to the dealer and they say, hey, There's a lot of things wrong here, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. You know, do you want the expert and fine-tune it and make it right? There's a big difference. And we'll go into it a little bit more because I think some other people have some comments on this in that thread from Pinside. Yeah, a lot of that thread was basically, you know, they were complaining about, especially with electromechanicals, like EMs, because typically that, you know, outliers actually will spend good money on an EM. and they'll spend the money to get it done right and, you know, give you thousands versus hundreds. But a lot of the people that come up with EMs, you know, they've had it forever. They bought it for $50 or $100 years ago. So now in their mind, the game's worth $100. They don't want to put a couple hundred dollars. I only bought the game for $100. If you come up to them with a bill for $1,000 to go through this 40- or 50-year-old thing that needs all this work, it's like, well, you know, you're restoring something that's that old. It needs everything done to it. That's why you've got to vet people, and you do. I mean, you've talked about it on this program before. You've actually put me on the spot a couple times and said, what would you do? But you had the election to take, as I call it, lower-hanging fruit, or times are to lean. Sometimes you take on work that maybe you wouldn't have in better times. I don't want to digress. Let's get back to Dracula and tell us a little bit more about your adventures there. Maybe we can see a little bit and you can play a game. Oh, yeah. Another thing. So when I'm playtesting the game, so I got it all kind of all squared away pretty much. And now I'm playtesting. This is when optimization comes in. You've got to playtest, playtest, playtest and see what comes up, see what crops up. it was doing some weird stuff there's three top lanes in the game that you get it's called ABC and you get those three top lanes and you get a multiplier you get a bonus multiplier each time you do it so it was doing some weirdness I'd go in the right lane and it wouldn't give me the correct thing and then I'd say go in the left lane, it would do something weird so I realized the left and right lane were crossed, someone put either from the factory or someone took this apart and put it back together. I don't know what happened, but at some point, the left switch was the right switch and the right switch was the left switch. Oh, jeez. No wonder it was acting schizophrenic. So I swapped that around. It's like, oh, that's behaving better. Because this guy who had the game said, yeah, the game had some weird stuff going on. He just basically called it, he would play weird. That's probably one of the things that's weird, along with the bubble wrap. That's very weird, you know. So I got all that taken care of, the switches, and what else? There's a bunch of other stuff on the game. Let me go through my quick little notes here. I go through and do like a captain's log every day when I work on a game. And let's see here. I think I wrote down some stuff that I did here. Dracula, Dracula, Dracula. Here we go. Yeah, so. Oh, yeah, I had to go through, of course, and do the driver board in order to place some caps on that. That was only like at the 5 volts was hanging around like 4.8, 4.85, and it'll reset around 4.7. It was too low of a margin. I couldn't let it go like that. So I rebuilt the 5-volt section. Now we're at like a 5.10 or 5.05, which is way better. The 12-volt cap, that started to leak a little bit, replaced that. So that was that. The MPU is actually pretty good shape. I just had to do a little cleanup on L5 on that one. That wasn't bad. Put a remote battery holder on it. Of course, the bubble wrap in there. There are a lot of broken parts in the game I had to fix. Wrong hardware, broken rubber. Oh, there's a coffin inside the game. I want to talk about that. It's a morbid game. It's very morbid. It's kind of like when I was playing Playtest in the Game, Maureen kept telling me from upstairs, hey, can you, like, turn that down or turn it off? You know, because it's not a – Oh, because of the creepy songs and the call-outs? Yeah, the creepy songs. And it just has the, you know, it's very, like, you know, and then it has the girl going – It's not like you're in a haunted house? And the girl's going, oh, you know, she's getting bit by the Dracula. Oh, you know, doing that kind of crap. And even the music on it. The music is kind of addictive in a way. It's kind of, it's kind of, it's a weird game. Is it organ-y? You know, like. Like Family Opera? Yeah, that kind of thing. I guess a little bit. I don't know. Not like Family Opera, but it has like that kind of morbid kind of foreboding, let's call it, kind of situation. I have a question about this coffin thing. Are you familiar with the coffin mod made by Cryptkeeper? I'm not. What does it do? Dracula sits upright in the coffin. Wow. I guess the coffin lid comes up. Does that do that anyway? No, that's a good one. Now, of course, this guy has no budget for that. I think the coffin lid comes up. I saw it open. and I didn't watch the video, but I read about it a long time ago, and I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool. And I guess the guy was having some issues with it and refined it. There's a whole thing out on Pinside you can read about it, but that looked like a pretty cool mod. If I owned this game, I would get that. The only thing this thing does, you get the guy inside the coffin. It's a clear glass coffin over there, a smoky glass coffin on top of it, and you kind of can see him in there, and there's lights in there, and it's supposed to glow and it's a virtual lock. The coffin is a three ball multiball. Whenever you throw the ball under the ramp it goes up into the coffin, the coffin spits it out and it goes back in the pop bumper nest. On the screen it shows you ball one locked and it shows a picture of a coffin with one ball in it. So it's a virtual lock. There's no three balls sitting in there. Just one at a time going through will give you a virtual lock until you get all three. Then you get the multiball. On this one here, this thing was sitting so long. No one worked this game forever, or ever. And the 555 bulbs, there's three of them inside the coffin to light it up, were never touched. They were burnt so bad, they were silver, that I could not take them out. They were like welded to this light socket, so much so that I destroyed the light sockets trying to take them out. I had to put three new light sockets that I started to board in that assembly, and I put LEDs in it instead. But it still won't even light up that much. And I realized what happened. This thing got so burnt that actually this Dracula, I call him Blackula. Well, there was a movie called Blackula. Well, he's Blackula. He's a dark-skinned gentleman now at this point because he's not a white Dracula. This guy is black all over. It's cooked. And the light doesn't even show through him anymore. So, you know, you see a little bit of a glow. So it sounds like this game, you can go do some research for your customer and say, hey, if you want to throw some money at this again, take a look at this. You might want to put it in. Then he'll have you come back and put it in. I don't think this game ever worked really well for him. He wants to show me that it performs. I think he's more like, I don't think he has a lot of respect for the games that probably never worked really right from day one or was always kind of limping or whatever. So he just said, oh, just kind of get it, you know. So he has no idea kind of what I do. He doesn't really kind of get it, even though he's going to spend some decent money with me, you know, enough to get it. Well, that's good. Well, you're going to have a story when you do the unveiling with him. Right. I'm hoping. Note the facial expression, number one. And then when he plays it, you know, you'll get a good sense of his astonishment. Right, I'm hoping it's going to be a wow moment, like, wow, I've never played or looked this good. I'm hoping that happens versus like, okay, well, great, okay, here's your money, see you later. I hope it's... What if you got the reaction like that character in the progressive insurance commercials? Yeah, that's great. Something like really just deadpan. Oh, deadpan, yeah. Oh, it's terrific. Yeah, yeah. Well, I will not be that happy. Oh, it's wonderful. Yeah. Well, hopefully not. I mean, most of my customers, I'd say the vast majority, again, 99% are wow when done. There was a sidetrack here, a sidetrack next gen. I just did a two-day day spa run down about 45 minutes away from here. And this guy, he has it in his basement. He's had it for, I think, 15, 20 years. And he got it from a friend of his that passed away, and it meant a lot to him, but it hasn't run since. He got it from his friend's game room or something. He's a dear friend of his. So he finally found me, and I said, I can do this work for you, a nice day spa, and it'll be X. And he said, oh, yeah, totally cool with the price. So we did some work, and about, I think about two hours in, he came down and said, wow, you guys are really taking it apart. He's like, oh, yeah, this thing needs to be taken apart. And then six hours passed. I think we did it for like six or seven hours. I said, okay, we're all set. Come on down. I said, I still have more work to do on it, but now at least before it was not playable at all. Now at least it's playable and plays really well, but I still want to do more. I didn't get to do the top part, the top half of the play field. There's a whole many more hours left to do, but I want to at least get you running and playable so you can play it and see the kind of work we've done so you'll allow me to come back and do day spot part two. So he came down. The first thing he did, he kind of, like, took a couple steps back, like Fred Stanford, like, grabbing his heart kind of thing, you know. Elizabeth, I'm coming, you know. And he grabbed my arm. he goes, no shit, like that. And he looked at me and was like, this is awesome. This is awesome. And this is the same guy. I was like so blown away by his reaction. I was like, this would make it great. At that point, that's better than money to me. That kind of reaction is awesome. But the money doesn't hurt. Money doesn't hurt. No, not at all. But this is the same guy when we walked up to the front door, he was like, hey, Dr. Dave is here. Awesome. All right, Dr. you know, he's like just celebrating like, you know, the heroes arrived. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, all right. Being welcomed with a fanfare. I knew right now, okay, this is a good, this is one of the really good customers, you know? So, yeah, it was great. So that was an opening. It's nice to be wanted. Oh yeah, nice to be wanted. And he loved it. Then I said, listen, when he was done booing and aahing and he played a ball, I was like, oh, it's awesome. You know, I said, there's more to do. So if you allow me to come back, I'll definitely come back another time and finish up. It's great. So I went back there yesterday. It was the first time out in three weeks to go out and do some work, outside work. I've been doing work in-house, trying to get caught up by in-house restorations at least. That's a good thing about being under the Carl Weathers. So now I'm back to almost 100%. I'm just taking care of the home front here. So go out to see him and finish up the game. and it was another, I think it took me another five hours. It was another five hours on part two. I was only talking about two or three hours, but there was so much left to do on it. And it came out great. I mean, I wish I had this game and I restored it. I had, you know, another copy of this game. And I really wish I had this game still. So let me stop you for a sec. I opened up by saying I really don't have any familiarity with this game. I don't know if I've even ever played it. And I went out and watched a three-minute video out on Is it Star Trek or, I'm sorry, I'm joking, Dracula there. Oh, I thought we were back on Dracula. Yeah, yeah. Go on Star Trek? No, go Dracula. I just want the audience to know what we're talking about. Okay. Yeah, I'm on Dracula. And my question is, why are there's so many multiballs, A, and is this game overwhelmingly multiball-centric? Yeah, I think there's something to it. You can stack, people like this game because you can stack multiballs. You can be doing, you can have one multiball running and have another multiball running at the same time. Now, explain that in case like me. I don't really understand what that means. So the multiball mode, like there's a missed multiball. Another unique game, you think of this game as called missed multi There a magnet on the playfield that runs on a runner from left to right that and it always puts a captive ball when you start the game or in the middle of the game, it stages the ball at one end of the play field, hidden behind a gate. Then the magnet turns on and a light turns on next to it, and it missed the multiball, it brings the ball across the play field like it's going across the play field like it's levitating. You know, across the play field. and you're supposed to hit it. Sometimes you don't hit it hard enough, you hit it light, now you get two multi-balls stuck there together. You can't do a thing about it, and it goes all the way over to the side. It doesn't know that you hit the ball because the ball is still stuck there. Now one ball gets captured on the left, and one ball just drops away down the slipper, but you didn't achieve the missed multiball ending part. you're supposed to hit the ball and then go up and get some jackpots that are lit up. So there's different jackpot shots, like ramp shots that light up for each. Right, but if you stack the multi-balls, does that mean if one of the balls drains, you still have one in play, that another ball comes out because you have a multiball stacked? Yeah. Yeah, I think, yeah. Now, how it all works in timing, I haven't played the game enough to know exactly the nuances there on that one. so I don't have enough gameplay time on it to really tell you all about it. There is, I have been going through a rule sheet, which is very long, about all the different stuff in the game. You know, tick, strict strategy. You've got multiball, multiball. See, multiball, multiball is the real key to super high scores in Dracula. Starting more than one multiball mode gives you nice things to shoot for from both flippers, provides some insurance against quick drains. avoid any multiball until you can be very close to starting at least two of them so get them ready to go. So stacking multi-balls is kind of like it's like a ball save almost. Yeah, it's kind of a ball save. You've got this ball in waiting. Yeah, it's always a ball waiting to come out so if you lose a ball, it's almost like a grace period when you're multiball maybe like 30 seconds or 20 seconds, whatever it is. So you want to stack them up. So it means not shooting the tunnel for missed multiball until there's only one coffin lock left or starting castle multiball while the others are lit. multiball, multi-multiball, so it multiplies your jackpots. So the jackpots are increased. If one of your running multi-balls is missed, everything will be worth at least $20 million. If you're really good at looping a ramp, catch the balls on one flipper and loop that ramp with one ball on the other. Note that the game will not call out the missed values awarded while you are looping, or it may make a loop sound twice and call out the value twice and alternate loops. Oh, my God. This is no class involving. You've got to play the game quite a bit in order to get the subtleties, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was a popular game, obviously. They sold 6,800 units. is this a highly collectible game? And, you know, what's the, you know, average cost of something like this? Is it a $5,000 game or an $8,000 game? Or more? I think it's right in there. I think between $5,000 and $7,000 will get you this game. I think it's somewhere like that, I think. Okay. It has a unique, you know, red D&D. I think, but, you know, it's red, but I think it's basically the red filter on the right, the blood red the blood, yeah does anybody put a color DMD in there? does that make sense? yeah, I think they do, but I don't know how they must take the red filter out, I would think because why would you keep it in there with a color DMD so, I'm not sure, I like putting the color DMD in every ramp game I work on I try to at least tell it to the customer that it's a good upgrade but they're pricey I mean, you're talking 500 to 600 bucks, including institutions, to get it going for you. So, you know, it's pricey. So what do you think of the game? It's fun to playtest. So it's good for a guest game here to playtest, you know. You know, would I ever – well, we have less than one minute to go in this round, so we're going to have to – Okay, so cut there and you can give us whether you would buy one or not. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we'll cliffhanger. Well, would I buy one or not buy one? Does he or doesn't he? That is the question. That is the question. Yeah. We can also talk about the mods to this game and re-themes. I got some ideas for re-themes for this game when we come back from the break. Okay, see you in a few. Or from our sponsors. okay where were we you gotta answer the question yeah would I own this uh no it's more of a fun game to visit fun game to restore I'd love it if someone would want me to go crazy in the game and do some coffin mod and some other stuff on it we've had our own coffin mod for the past two weeks here but it's a little different Not a working cough and a cough. Which is not nearly as much fun as playing the game. Yeah, I've been there, done that. As I told you, I surfed that wave back in, what was it, September when I was sick. You were doing it before it was fashionable, George. Yeah, I must have got it quick and early. I don't know. No, everybody's doing it. So what else on this game? Anything else that you want to talk about? Let's see. Other stuff on this game. Let me see. The lightning flippers are kind of cool. It's the only game that has that. Some people have actually put them on, like, tournaments. They'll put lightning flippers on tournament games like that. In fact, I think that's actually a good way to go if you're going to have, you know, ramp games in a tournament to make it tougher for anybody that's really good. put lightning flippers in all those ramp games, and that should make the times a bunch less. Are the ball times long on this game if you know how to play it? I don't think so. I mean, it plays pretty quick, because I can, yeah, I'm not playing there forever like a typical on a Martin Stern. I can play those games forever because it's like, they're too easy, you know. I haven't looked at the list and it's going to be in our next show. The Pentastic game list. I'm wondering if this will be one of the games at the show. Well, speaking of Pentastic, I just found out we do music every year. We do a concert every year now. Oh, I saw it. That's been out for a while. Okay, I just saw it. I haven't been paying attention to this. But kudos for Gabe, because he'll, you know, whatever game is, like, popular or just coming out online, which is Elton John, he'll find a tribute. Yeah. So he found one, and they're very popular. They go around the country, I guess. And I think they're from Maine. They were on a Maine news broadcast at one point being interviewed, so I saw them on there. Right, but that's not what caught your attention It didn't? No, you know what's coming back, don't you? No, what's coming back? I believe it's another horn band Oh god, no, make it stop Oh no, no And there's a comedy night, from what I understand Oh, we're really going to do a a Vegas review He's got like three different things lined up. No, from like 6 o'clock, 6.30 on. He's got a bunch of stuff. So a comedy show too? Okay. Interesting. Go. I looked at it a long time. I wasn't prepared that we're going to talk about it. Yeah, go look it up. I'm almost positive it was out there. So is it on a brand new thread on Pinside? No, no, no, no. The website. Oh, the website. Okay. Sometimes I feel like I'm a mushroom. I'm kept in the dark. You are. You are. You're head down and head strong. You're just repairing pinballs and you got the blinders on. Exactly. You're just – I'm a workhorse. Is that what they call it? Yeah, the blinders on, just do the work. Get out there and plow the field and don't get distracted by squirrels and stuff. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Do you want to – I just – while we were breaking and you were spooling, do you want to go over this thing in Pinside? There's some pretty funny stuff in here. Yeah, maybe should I go pull it up or you get it all there? No, I mean you can if you want to follow along. I printed it all out because I can't do two things at once. I'm old school. Okay, well I'm old school too, but I think I actually saved it. I'll prompt you and you can comment, reply, not reply. Yeah, sure. Okay. That's questionable. Yeah, and the second paragraph is the reveal, I think. Something that's always bothered me with fixing games, specifically with EMs, is the inability to tell the reliability of something. Stop. if you can't assess what the issue might be with the game, perhaps you might want to think about doing something else? Perhaps this is not the job for you. And he goes through this whole thing, I forgot. So, all the other people who are techs, or have been techs, or want to be techs or could be techs. The next one is from this guy up in Saratoga, New York. I saw Chronic Frost. I've seen him all over the thing. And he says, before I agree to work on a person's game, I pretty much give them a mini lecture about expectations of a 40 year old piece of equipment. I would say that goes without saying, right? Yeah, I you might summarize it a little bit differently? A little differently, because that sounds like hey, I'm going to do the best I can, but this thing's going to break tomorrow morning. I don't know if I'm that pessimistic when I kind of tell someone to work on their game. But I will say that in effect at one point, there is a steel ball flying around hitting stuff in these games. So the game is not bulletproof. I'm going to do the best I can to make it as reliable as possible, but nothing is, you know. Okay, how about this one? I would start here. This would be my first, well, maybe second question. When I meet a person who comes to purchase a machine or bring a machine to fix, I always ask about their background in pinball. Good question. Do you fit? I'm here. Is it that you've never opened up a game before? Can you show me how to open your game up? Yeah, I'd say my customers follow the category of, no, I know nothing, I see nothing, I just know how to start the game and play the game. I told you when I went to pick up the Xenon I bought, the guy didn't even know how to lift up the lockdown bar and take the glass out. Oh, yeah, and it's like, oh, that's how you do that. Oh, I've had that before. Right, that's exactly the answer. The other one I get is like, well, have you ever changed the batteries? Are there batteries in these games? Oh, I'm coming to one of those stories. That's actually a pretty funny one in here. So there's some other stuff. Oh, this is a great one. I've got to give this person props. Home game room in Sunrise, Florida. I fixed an arcade game for a friend's brother years ago. I found the bad part but didn't have it, so it was true trips to repair, and I charged an incredibly reasonable $75. and the dude who's incredibly wealthy says $75, my buddy would have fixed it for free. Oh, then why didn't you call your buddy then? Wait, wait, wait. Oh, he took the punchline. He called about a year later for a repair, and I told him to have his buddy fix it. Yeah, I would too. Get out of here. You know, kick rocks down city blocks, dude. Oh, come on. That's a great story. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. I get some pretty well-off customers doing pretty well. I'd say the majority of them, they're also pretty generous, too. There are some out there that are loaded and that kind of thing. I'm going to come to that. You're kind of jumping ahead. People have all these thoughts. Or this one here. How about I tell them what it's going to be, and it's, oh, well, it's just for my grandkids. I don't care who it's for. Do you want it working or not? It's like, just for the grandkids, what are you talking about? I'm going to do it for 50 bucks? No. So this one's from Nicholas in Oak Grove, Virginia. Check this out. From a Pintech perspective, as a home machine hobby, pinball attracts a huge variety of people. Wealthy people, OCD people, addictive personalities, techies, adult juveniles, et cetera. True. Okay. Yep. I knew you would agree with that. Yep. this is becoming an easy thing yeah uh let's see i'm moving ahead moving ahead oh this is a great one this one's right up your alley okay trade bow 69 wherever you're from i show up and i see a mess in a in person not in the person in person and tell the people straight up you don't want me you don't want to pay me to fix this this is my estimate and this is about what the game would be worth in working condition. It's how I got a free hot tip. Ever had that happen to you? Oh yeah, it's happened to me, yes. It does, it happens. I'm straight with people like that. It's like, you know, it's not worth some of these games, but a lot of times people say, I don't care because it has a lot of memories for me, and I don't expect to make money on this. It's selling and make money. This is for posterity and to get past some of my kids and I'm going to keep them in the family. I say, okay, as long as you know that, then we can go forward and so forth. But sometimes I'll say, oh, no, I just want to, I'm just going to, a lot of times I say, well, I just want to ask you, is it worth it to fix or should I just sell this game? At that point, it's half out the door. They just want to get rid of it. So at that point, if we can come up to a price or whatever, sometimes it's free, sometimes it's minimal, but with my space requirements and what I get going on, I'm not paying up for any game unless it's something that I really need, which these days I pretty much have all the titles I need. But yeah, that has happened to me before a couple times. Here's one. Has this one ever happened to you? This is Viper001 from Hamilton, Ohio. The funniest service call I ever did was for a TV weatherman locally, who got my name and called me to fix a Bobby Orr power play. It was in his basement when he bought his house. I went over to find out... No. He informed me that he had pulled the back glass and saw the batteries dripping acid, so he removed the board and threw it away. Oh, that's a good idea. Yet he failed to mention that fact while I was sitting there hitting the power switch. Oh, my God. That's a great one. Wow. And it's not acid. It's alkaline. Oh, come on. That's got to be one of the funniest. That's a good one. It's like, so he looks at you while you turn it on and doesn't want to say anything. It's like, you know, maybe, is it like an appendix you don't need? You just take it out and you keep going? No. Well, I think I told you this story. I don't know if I told the audience. So I own an antique car, and under the dashboard, up on, you know, the hump, there's a starter button that you need to depress with your foot while you engage the ignition. So I had my car moved here to Virginia, right? The guy gets into the seat, and he starts moving the key from left to right. And he does it like two or three times, and he goes, it won't start. I go, you're an idiot. You have no idea what this car is. Get out. Don't sugarcoat it, George. Tell them the real deal. I mean, you're a dope. You're supposed to be moving my car. You didn't ask. You just looked at me like, you know, why isn't it starting? It's like because you're an idiot. Well, to be fair, I wouldn't say the idiot is ignorant. Maybe not an idiot because you figure, okay, there's a key ignition. Turn the key. I wouldn't – I have a question. Why is there a starter thing you get to hit the bottom of the thing? Why do they have a double – why do they do that? I don't own a vintage military Jeep by Willys or Willis, depending on where you are in the country. But my guess is that that was something that was part of that brand during the 40s, when they were produced. So Ford and GM of that time frame, Cadillac, did have that or didn't have that? You don't know? Remember, it's a Jeep. A Jeep. Spartan vehicle. It's not a Cadillac. It's not a Pontiac. It's not a Buick. So you have to hit the center with your foot and turn the key and the other foot has to pump the gas to get the gas going. No, no, no, no, no. You don't have to pump the gas. I thought on old cars you're always going to pump the gas a little. No, not on this one. Oh, okay. Right, so, you know, instead of saying, excuse me, sir, I'm unfamiliar with this vehicle. Might you assist me in the starting procedure so I don't screw up? No, I might just jump in there two feet and screw it up. Yeah, I might just say, just turn the key, right? You know, something like that. No, get out. Did he screw up? He didn't mess the car up, did he? We're getting to the end of this segment. It's actually quite fun. I'm feeling much better than I did a few moments ago. This one's from Aquapin in Vancouver, British Columbia. I've been fortunate only to have encountered a few entitlement collectors. And their unwarranted arrogance and attitude. Ever had one of those? Let me think back. How about Nantucket Boy? Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, all right. It's a couple select few, sure. Okay. Yeah. Okay. The thing is, though, the eight holes are at a minimum, which is nice. They're usually in one place. yeah you know so most of my time is with that filter out that crap I do a little interview session as well just to see what I'm dealing with you know and like when you go for a job interview it's a two way street the place is interviewing you but you're also interviewing them do I want to work here you know as well as they want to hire you so it's that kind of deal it's called fit right yeah yes Yes. I read in it, and I can't find it now, and forgive me if I'm saying something that's incorrect, but I thought I read somewhere that in the state of Texas, one has to obtain a coin op... I saw that. I don't want to work in Texas. You figure Texas would be like conservative and almost like New Hampshire, live free or die, and just kind of... Yeah, I found that surprising, but you know what? It takes care of what I said earlier, the highwayman. You know? Because it sounded like the guy who was talking about it got pinched. So it gets rid of the riffraff. Well, yeah, I mean, it gives you, I guess, some assurance. I mean, but it sounded like he got pinched, and that's why he was so knowledgeable about the subject. So that's all I have. I mean, unless you have something else to add to it. I thought it was a lively discussion. And I'm wondering if I should post on it that I talked about it, but maybe I'll skirt that and just say let them see, let them find it, let somebody broadcast it. I've got a lot of people that have actually been reaching out to me that say, hey, I'm listening to your podcast and, you know, I want to get a game or advice on something or a big fan. lately I've been a lot of that. It's pretty cool. Got some fan mail and that kind of stuff. At least you're getting fan mail. I guess they don't know the email address. No, I think they know me too well. They're afraid of you, George. They're afraid of cats. They're afraid, George. You know what? I should talk about... I've lined up a couple of interviews. I think I talked about it in our last our last podcast, Scott up in the Rochester area, he agreed. Remember you out at PinbroFest? Yeah, he's got quite the collection. I don't have it in front of me, and we'll talk about it in a future show, but he's like, yeah, I'll come on. So we got that lined up. Next month we'll do our pre-Pentastic show, which is always is a lot of fun. I always find it fun. Sure. Oh, I lined up Keith. We haven't set a date yet, but Keith from Fin Brew Fest, he's going to come on and tell us all the new things that are going on at that show. We've got some things going on. We're happening. Oh, can I do something? I've run this by you and you can say no, we're not doing this. Alright, go ahead. How about an open casting call for us to do some interviews of people that listen to us at Pintastic. They open cast and call me to come up. Hey, you know, send Dave or send me an email and say, hey, I'm X. I want to come on your show and I want to talk about this. Could be interesting. Could be interesting. That way we can kind of vet that and say, we can say, will that work, will that not work, and we say, okay, it's not a really good fit, go. Yeah, I'd be open to it. I'd be open to see what happens with people. So, give your email address, because I always forget to give mine. It is Dave at pinballdoctor.com, and that's pinballdoctor all spelled out, P-I-N-B-A-L-L-D-O-C-T-O-R dot com. or me at theclassicpinballpodcast numeral 1 at gmail.com So maybe we got somebody to come on and we'll see. You know we're going to do something that we haven't done before. I mean, just like the last show. At Pincat, well, that's true. I can't wait to see what they have for lineup at the tournament there. The tourney lineup. There's certain things that I haven't seen yet. I'm sure it's always something different. That's what Jim tries to do. Different titles. So, certain titles. I don't know if it's going to be this year. He's going to put a certain title up that he hasn't seen yet. So, it's always kind of cool. So, are you going to participate again? Yeah, I'll probably, I'll throw some money just to kind of, especially if I can get a good classic run out of it and just to kind of play something like that. Because I really liked that thing the other day that you turned me on to the Twitch feed for that classic tournament out in Wisconsin. Right. That was really good. Every title is like, another good one, another good one. All these titles are being played by some pros. The one I had a problem with and I actually, no, I mean, I was talking to PJ about it, But, you know, they had a Flight 2000 in the lineup that they were playing on. And before that, they had the Bobby R. Power play, I think, and some other stuff. And they were playing decent. Like, they weren't playing, you know, so fast. The ball was like it had like five 2x4s in the back, you know. Until they got to Flight 2000, that ball came rocketing down that play field so fast, you could barely make it up the left spinner lane to go to the top to lock the ball. They couldn't make it up there. They made one intense shot so you can make it up. They barely make it up there, you know. It was way too steep. So I was in the chat, and I said, hey, that game's way too steep for what it would be. And someone said, well, these are really good tournament people. You need it super hard for the tournament guys to go, yeah, I get it, but your other titles there aren't this steep, and they're the same things. And Plankton Fountain is no pushover anyway. It's a tough game anyway to play. Right, and by the time, if something doesn't work, you can't complete certain actions on the game. So you kind of have, you know, you cut off one of the limbs, so to speak. And you can't get the, you need to get, there's an O on the game, the low right flipper feed, that you can only get by either shotsing it or lucking it over there. If you don't get it, you aren't getting multiball, and multiball is where the money is. So it's hard to get a good score in that game in order to go up that. There's so many things you've got to do in that game. And it was just ridiculous. So I told PJ about it because I remember playing this game back in the day at Fun and Games, same thing. They had the thing jacked up so much in the back the same way. It was not a fun game to play. It was brutal. So we played a couple games of it, and I was like, yeah. So I didn't play a lot of it back in the day. but nowadays now they have a nice playing title with a reasonable slope to it and with the new software that Scott did for the game, it's a fantastic game I love playing the Flight 2000 now it's one of the best ferns now I think I think it's definitely top 5 along with the other ones but that was a lot of fun watching, they had so many good titles to watch good people play on, I'm surprised Eric wasn't playing in that one, maybe he probably had a hard time getting time off I would bet I haven't even seen him online, but I've been busy. I haven't really. I'm a little light this month, guys. Sorry. We'll ramp it up next month, and this project here will be done. I'm watching my neighbor's house being completed. They're putting in the septic system today. So I'm becoming a regular contractor watcher. Yeah, I need to get some of your skills about how to pick the right contractor for things and how to, you know, like if I'm going to get a house built and that kind of thing, what's the things to look for and how to interview these kind of people and the pitfalls and so forth of doing that kind of stuff. You seem like you're well-seasoned at this point. I get it. A lot of it is reading people. A lot of it is reading people and, you know, some referrals and just vetting people. It's for that. I've been fortunate. I'm not going to say lucky. I've been fortunate. it. I haven't been toasted too many times, which is good. That's cool. I'm looking in the background. Is there a transom window behind you? Is there a transom thing behind you? A doorway thing? No, no, no. I'm in our pantry. Oh, okay. That's my kitchen. That's my slider, maybe. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, it's like that top thing there. Is that what you're looking at? Yeah, the top thing. It's like a little window thing on the top. the top of that doorway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This house, yeah, above all the doorways, including the slider, there's a window above it. Yeah, why? That's old school. Just look. It's the way they build the house. It's kind of cool. Because back in the day... There's one going into our office, there's this one in our kitchen, and there's one over our doorway going out the slider. But back in the day, that's how they would get air through all the rooms. Yeah, it doesn't work. It's solid. It's not a tilt in or tilt out. It's just for look. Okay. Huh. Yeah. Maybe that's from something down south, the southern thing maybe? No, I think it's this builder. This builder does a lot of different things. And yes, I'll bring it up. Folks, you're hearing it first. Dan says, like, well, when are they going to come visit? I said, he knows the door is open. He can come whenever he wants. All he's got to do is tell me when. I'm thinking I'm going to try to do something like around the Allentown show. Right? Wouldn't that work? This is the winner. She said that exactly. Yeah, because that makes sense. because we're going to be, you know, how far are you from, what kind of ride is it from you to Allentown? From your house to my house is 450 miles. That's not the question. Okay, so from here to your place is 450. Right. From Allentown, it's probably three and a half, four hours. Okay. All right, so if I was going to straight shut, I'm going to go eight hours to you driving from here. Close, yeah. Yeah. If you can get through the Washington traffic, yes. see that's a long day driving for me yeah you're more of a road warrior that way than I am I'd say I'm more I'm down for like the four to five hour drive per day situation so more like I can see like an Allentown thing and then either before the Allentown thing or after the Allentown thing hitting you and then yeah or your buddy in Roanoke Nick. Right. Right. We do the Nick thing. Sure. Yep. You really, really get ambitious. You can go down to Williamsburg and go on some coasters Yeah See that the only thing I want to do is coasters I want to go to Cedar Point at some point That the other way I know Wrong direction Let get back People don want to hear about our travels and travails. You're going to come. We're going to come. Right around the Allentown show at some point we'll come down and we'll set up camp at your house for a little bit. Maybe for two months. No. America's guest. We have a limit. This is not a hotel. This is not a spa. This is not a vacation. It is not a retreat. I want the spa treatment. You'll be going down the road. Homie don't do that. Homie don't go there. Alright, no worries. Yeah, we'll figure out something with that. So how much time do we have left and what do you want to do for the rest of the show? Because I don't have anything else. Do you have any stories? How about your regular segment? Do you have at least one story, even though you were in-house for three weeks? Yeah, true. Well, I do. Let's see. I just set up... Well, we've got to do the intro. This is Dave's favorite segment. What's up, Doc? What's up, Doc? Well, I will tell you what's up, Doc. Let's see. We have two pickups. Maureen, my lovely assistant is saying we have two pickups. What were the two pickups? Oh, boy. No, those aren't good stories. That's going to be late. That's not a good what's up, Doc. No. We will talk about that, too. That's a different story. Okay. Right, Maureen, but this is different. So, gosh, I am off track. It's like off track betting. Right, that's okay. So, anyways, what's up, Doc? Well, let's talk about what's up, Doc. We just set up a black knight in-house to do a restoration on. This guy was after me for about a year or so to get it in here, so it's in here. and, you know, turned it on. It actually sort of worked just from day one. You know, I was doing some weird stuff, and the original board set was in it, but I noticed the right kicker was always kicking on. It's like, okay, well, I don't really like to use the original boards anyway in these games. They're finicky. I best need to rebuild them. They're not going to last that long. So I like to put an Andrew board, an all-in-one Andrew board. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Fight again. Be, be, fight. So, actually, you know who came by recently, George, was the James Piekarz called me, and they came by, and I recorded them. So, pretty much, I'll give you a couple little things what they did here. If you do $1,000 on the sheets, I'd do that. Okay, I'll do that. And I said, you know, no on that one. I'm not doing that. and then... Yeah, I know where you're at. So basically when they left, I... F you guys. Get out of here. Oh, sounds like I'm rubbing off on you. You cheap bastards. Get out of my house. Oh, boy. Off the rails already. you know I had to put some comedy in this thing George I gotta do something I saw that the other day Maureen's watching the James Piekarz and I heard them doing something that's like these guys they offer like just they would just come in and insult me they would come in and insult my intelligence and insult my games but then they would cry and say well we have to make a buck oh yeah we have to make a buck by driving it out of here and putting the extra price on it and getting the retail I just told you it's worth Yeah, exactly. Yes, time me up. Just because you have that big Mercedes-Benz van doesn't make you an expert. Right, exactly. It makes you more like a moving company. Right, yeah. They should just say, instead of archeological, whatever they have there, say, you know, Frank and so-and-so's, Frank and Mike's movers. Right. They should do. The highwaymen. The highwaymen. They are the highwaymen. They are. They are. I think I'm going to keep that as part of my repertoire Is he a highwayman? Right Well the highwaymen back in the day They would rob you on the side of the road They would you know Hello There you go You're in your house now You're not on the side of the road Right That's why you're on the stagecoach One guy would ride shotgun Because you need the shotgun to stop the highwayman Right Yeah Okay That's right did I do the what's up talk enough? I don't know if that came out okay or not what about the black I just did that one didn't I do it again? okay alright we gotta do take two? I could do a take two you had you bark in the background though I was trying to talk over your barking I don't know. I could listen to it and see if it's okay. If you want to do it again, go ahead, and I'll cut out my barking. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I got two minutes here. So, all right, so what's up, Doc? I'll tell you what's up, Doc. Let's talk about a black night they came in for restoration. The guy was after it for about a year or so to get it in here, finally picked it up, set it up, and it actually sort of worked. The original board set, some battery damage, so forth. right kicker always stuck on. It's like, okay, well, I could fix that, but I really want to put in a new board. So Andrew makes a nice new all-in-one board for these games, puts it in there, turn it on, everything worked great. The weird sound was gone. It had some weird sound thing going on. Kicker's still stuck on. It's like, what's going on? The guy always had some weird wiring going on. The previous tech rewired the thing the wrong way. The wires were in the wrong section. It's like, okay, I've got to fix that. So he rewired it the right way, looked in the schematic, rewired about two different connectors. Now it's, okay, now it's going to be good. Thing's still stuck on. Okay, maybe I wrecked Andrew's board. Took Andrew's board out, put another Andrew's board in there, turn it on again. Kicker's still stuck on. It's like, okay, it's not the board, not the connectors. Let's see what else. I said, okay, well, there's some little switches in here for the kickers, and there's a capacitor and a resistor in each one of these. And let's see, let me ohm it out. This capacitor is giving 200 ohms. The other capacitors in the game are giving no ohms. Partially short a capacitor. Put a new capacitor in there. fixed the switch, no more stuck-on kicker. So that was cool. So now this game is about ready to do the rest of the restoration, but I fixed all this. You get a lot of those. That's a really collectible game. Yeah, and I have another one that's going to be for sale, too, down the road. I have one that I got off a customer that I'm going to be restoring and selling down the road, as well as a Gorgar. I have that, too. And we'll come back for a part three, because I've got to tell about the experience of the Centaur pickup, and the Spirit of 76 said... said... Oh, no, they finally came? Oh, yeah. But we only have one minute left on this segment, so it'll be a cliffhanger again, or less than a minute. So I can tell you that story. That story didn't really go too well. Destroy Seminar. So how does that look? That looks great, but we need to finish the story before we get to some gameplay on Dracula. Alright. So tell me your centaur story. Oh, yeah. Well, there's three pickup stories. One of them went really well. The other two, hmm, could be better. So, centaur. So as we all know, with this soap opera, about three years had it. They're all restored, looking great, best scent I've ever looked or played. The guy originally contracted me, said, I want this to be your creme de la creme, your Cadillac. I want this to be your best work ever and be put on your website and blah, blah, blah. Okay, so spare no expense, went crazy on it and told him, you know, when I was really getting into it, you know, what it was kind of being around. And he got a little bit of a sticker shock at that point. But, you know, still, you know, he's still ready to play. It's like, okay. Kept going on it. And then he kept saying, you know, he's going to pick it up. It was done in July. He's going to pick it up in October. Then he hurt himself and got a broken arm and whatever. Say, okay, well, I can pick it up in March. And go, well, that's a lot of time I'm holding this game on. You know, there's going to be some storage on top of it now. Plus, I'm working on other, you know, it's, so basically it counts to be a good amount of dough. So he came up, so I'm going to come up there right away. I'm not going to wait until March. You know, I want to get out of your way, and, you know, I want to incur more storage fees. Okay, great. Come on up. So he said, I blew off my appointment for my rehab appointment for my arm just to come up and say, okay, great, you know. Go all the way from Maryland. at his friend's house up in North and then came down here the next day and came in and everything's fine. He had a U-Haul in the back that he brought with him. And looked at the game and said, okay. And he asked me, okay, show me around. I showed him the board. I showed him this. I showed him everything he did to it and all the stuff. And, you know, he never really said, oh, it looks great. Ooh, ah, it was never one of those. He was never, like, blown away, which is kind of weird, you know. and then I said, okay, do you want to play a game? He goes, no, no, I'm all set. Don't you want to play a ball? No, no, I just want to pack up and go. He didn't want to even play the game. He didn't play the game. Very strange. You're going to spend all this money and all this time before it packs away. You're not going to, no, no, but let's just spend some time on, you know, mark the connectors to know how to connect it back up and this and that. So I'm doing all this stuff and then, you know, taking the game apart and blanket wrapping it, shrink wrapping it, spending half a day in this thing with this guy, getting it all mummified for the trip home, right? Put it in his thing, put it in his car, packed it all away. He locks it in there, puts a lock on the back of the U-Haul. And mind you, there's a very important feature that hasn't been discussed yet or brought forward, where is the money? Yeah, I wouldn't know how to let that happen, but go ahead. See, George, you know what? I am too trusting. I am too trusting, and I make assumptions which I shouldn't, and it's like I just don't realize there's jerks out there that do crappy stuff. So, what I should have done, it's like, when you look at the game, it's like, okay, yeah, well, here's the bill. Let's pay on this, and we'll get this thing packed up for you. I didn't do that. So, we came back, okay, let's talk money. Came back in, and I said, well, it's this. He goes, oh, well, no, I've been out of work. You know, he sells beachfront property in Maryland. You know, he's a real estate agent. He does pretty well for himself. But he's been out of work for six months with his arm. Well, I just sell stuff to more to get some money for you and this and that. So I have three quarters of what you want. But I want you to be happy with it. I want you to say, well, I'm not happy with that really, but if that's what you got, He got me over a barrel right here and, you know, so he wrote me a check for the amount. And meanwhile, he's got the super-duper glass on the game, too, the $300 piece of glasses on this game. And then he said, well, I just want to leave on good terms. I go, well, whatever, whatever, dude. You know, it's like the price was this, but you only gave me this. Okay, whatever. You know, don't ever call me again. Done. I'm not doing any tech support, nothing. We're done. You don't screw me like that. so he took off then he called me up about five minutes later oh I forgot the balls you got chutzpah dude you know so he wants so he came back and I gave him oh you didn't say you got balls oh no you don't have any you don't have any balls yeah you know you go get your own balls you have money now to go find some but it's like no meanwhile I have this check and I don't want him to freaking bounce a check on me right so it's like well I'm still going to be nice to him so I gave him the freaking balls tell me the check bounced No, it did not. It did not. Well, you got to be fair. People were saying to me, too, why don't you raise your hand and bounce it? Well, if the guy's going to screw me that bad, he would have given me everything I wanted and a check and then bounce it later. Why get me down on my feet? That's true. That's true. Right? I agree with that. He already screwed me once. Why screw me a couple times? Right? Well, maybe he likes screwing people. Yeah, I think he does. Well, he's a real estate agent, so, you know, there's some good ones and bad ones out there. so yeah so I said listen you know you have the really nice you know $350 glass on the game or $400 whatever on the game it would be nice when you get some funds maybe you could send me a check for at least that because I would have swapped that I would have put a different glass when you gave it to me no exactly I would have taken you know so I think that's what he knew was going to happen if he played this game before we packed the thing away. That's why he's smart. He knew what he was doing. He's smart and devious. He's devious, not smart, devious. So what was the other pick-up? The other one. Now we get another assumption is the mother of all F-ups, and I assumed, I should never assume, I learned twice in a row I got screwed. So, at Spirit of 76 I worked on, right? I remember it was Stinky, I had Stu and Benny kind of do it for me, and had to do the ozone machine on it and blah, blah, blah. Right, our last show. Yeah, our last show. So they did all, you know, looking great, working great. And so the guy said, I called the guy up and I texted him and said, hey, your game's ready. But he never got back. When I sent this guy pictures of the game, video game, he never said, oh, it looks great. He never gave it oohs and aahs as well, which I thought was strange. When I show customers the games that are done, usually they get accolades, kudos, you know, because it looks gorgeous and it plays nice. and I'm showing him everything, I get nothing out of this guy, which I thought was weird. So he gave me a call. He said, oh, Dr. Day, oh, great, you know, I can bring cash, you know, what do we owe you? What's it going to come to? So I told him. He goes, what? Oh, no, no. I was expecting to pay one quarter of that. When we last talked. You know what I would have done? What? I would have hung up the phone and said, it's my game until I get X. You got the game. I know. You're probably not going to be able to get what you put into it, but you got the game. Yeah, this guy, he, I don't know. Unless you think he's going to come and burn your house down or something. Yeah, he's kind of a heavy hitter. He's kind of a guy that, especially for a bunch of lawyers, I sue a lot of people. He mentions stuff like that. He's got money. He rolled up in a brand-new Corvette, and he has a whole statement. Did you use that against him? I kind of said, dude, you know, you're going away on vacation all the time, overseas and stuff. It's like, what's going on? Oh, no, this is – oh, that's right. This is the guy who was in France. Yeah, yeah, five times a year. Yeah. So it's like, dude. What? Ooh-la-la, dude. Come on. Yeah, not ooh-la-la. No ooh-la-la. How about moo-la-la? Yeah, moo-la-la. Moo-la. Yeah, where's the moo-la? So he said, oh, I can't do that. He's like, well, let me, I just talked to my guy who's a multimillionaire, and he doesn't want to buy it either for the price. And I go, it's not a lot of money for this game. I said, these things go for, a restored version of this game goes for this price. They go to anywhere between $4,000 and $6,000 for a restored Spirit of 76. And this one qualifies as that. He wanted to pay like about $1,500. It ain't going to happen. You got two stinkers. So it was probably good that we went through that liability and responsibility. Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah. So basically, so long story short. Unfortunately, there were some similarities. No, there were. Oh, any tech that does this for a long time, you're going to get some of this crap. I'm glad I got two in a row, so I should be good for a while. Usually what happens is you get the crappy stuff, You're going to have the rain to appreciate the sunshine. So hopefully now we get some sunshiny days ahead. So he said, well, you know, what can you get for us? Well, I can try to contact my different people. Now I've got to try to sell this game and it's like, you know, to get the money back out of it. Right. Why couldn't this have happened two years ago when somebody would have sucked it up in a second? Now you've got, you know, an economy that's, you know, less than that. And, you know, are you going to find somebody? I mean, we talked about this in the last show, Dave. There's stuff. People are selling a lot of stuff, and there's some bargains out there if you sift through the bin. Yeah, but I have a different market. My restoration market for my people that want games from me, they're willing to step up most of the time and pay. So a friend of mine, Keith, who just started getting into pinball because I had him over a couple times, and he's got some dough. he's refurbing his house and he was making a game room and he was never into pinball until I showed him a couple things and he actually showed up to Pintastic last year and loved it and he's going to go to Pintastic again this year because it's part of his birthday party for himself he's going to invite people to come to the you know, Pintastic with him and me as well being there and he wants to play more games and he wants to have like three pinball machines he wants to, you know, either buy one there or have me go through one or whatever and he likes the old chime games you know, and he ems I said, Keith, this just became available. I'll give you a good price on it. So basically, I really wanted like, you know, like I wanted $5,200 for the game. That's what I wanted all of a sudden. Right, but you should give him a deal. I don't believe it. Hey, this is what I was able to do. I would do it for $4,000. Well, exactly. This is what I got for your game. Here's what you get. Exactly. Exactly. And so that's what I did. So what I did. I'm not lying to you. So what I did is I said, you know, the guy with the game said, well, just give me $500 for the game, you know. So I said, okay, I'll give you that. As long as I can make some money back on my side and become kind of whole, fine. So I found Keith. I said, Keith, I'm going to give you a deal on the game. I'll do it for $4,500, and basically I'm taking the $500 of that, paying this guy off, and I got $4,000 out of it. So for my time and all the parts and everything else, I did okay. You know, I didn't do awesome, but I did okay. I'm going to be okay with it. If you didn't lose, you know, sometimes you can't win them all. You can't. I mean, sometimes you just try, but it seems like everybody's got a story. Everybody's got a story. Because after all, you're dealing with the public. So the public's not perfect. You can try to do what you can to mitigate, you know, jerkos, but you're going to get some jerkos. So those are the two jerkos, and that's how that goes. So at least Centaur's out of here. I put nothing in his face so far. I've got four games upstairs, not the fifth one for Centaur. I was going to put some up there, but it's like, I'll use the extra room up there. I don't need to cram the games up there. And Spirit of 76, I mothballed that, wrapped it all up, ready to go to Keith's house when he's ready for it in April, and he's going to pay me on that. I have another guy interested, actually, from Amherst that now called me up once. He wants a couple of older games, and I think I told him what they go for. and he wants an EM. So he might pay me what I want for the EM. So basically I'm going to, if he does, I'm keeping him on the hook. I'm going to say to Keith, Keith, I want to make sure that you really want this game. You're not just buying because I need you to buy it with me, but you really want it because I do have somebody that will buy it for better money. But it's going to be yours if you want it because I made you the offer first and, you know, you're my first guy. But if you want to pass on it, let me know so I get a guy that will pay me more money for it and it'll go somewhere else. So I kind of have that deal sort of brewing in the background. But that's the story. That's the sob story with those two games. So now I'll give you game three. Now it turns around to a nice story. So Grand Prix, that game came out great. In fact, you'll get to hear, I think maybe a bonus feature, hopefully coming up. I have some really cool gameplay, a really cool night of pinball I had with Jeff, PJ, Bob, and I on a Saturday night, full moon. We played a night of pinball. I had some great tunes going. We had some good repartee back and forth, good play, good kind of. It's basically a really good slice of an arcade experience of four good guys playing pinball and having a blast, and you get to live vicariously for a couple minutes playing a couple games, especially Grand Prix, Bow and Arrow, and a couple others in there. And it was some really nice moments in time that I captured audio that I think would be great to put in the podcast here and there, sprinkle it in, because I think the audience would like it. Can I tell you something? I'm sitting here laughing to myself because of the screen. I think you should do for your next broadcast online. Yeah, you too. Exactly what you're doing with your hands in front of the play field and not show your body. And just keep talking through the game like you are. It's pretty, it's interesting to watch. Okay. Really? Okay. I don't know what, I remember seeing this on TV somewhere, and it's just funny to watch. I mean, if you can use certain hand gestures while you're playing or explaining the game, it's kind of funny. Okay. Interesting. It's odd. All right. Well, Timbo. Anyway, let's get to the gameplay. Everybody's hung on this long to our long story. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Before the gameplay, one more thing, sir. I want to take the two bad lemons, and I'm going to make some lemonade with game three, the Grand Prix. Call that guy. The game's ready. Okay. And he said, oh, the game came out great. He loved it. He saw the video, the pictures. Oh, awesome. You know, what do I owe you? It's like, well, I went a little bit over, probably a couple hundred dollars over what the budget was. I hope you don't mind. He says, oh, no, that's fine. So he was totally cool with paying over budget. He saw how nice it came out. He came by, paid for it, loved playing it, appreciated it, took it back home. He was going to put, he said, oh, should I put the ball in my pocket? No, I'll wrap the ball up with the other stuff. What did I do? He took the game home. I found the ball in my pocket. And it's like, dude, I have the ball for your game. So I sent it to him. So I sent him a care package with the ball and also a bunch of bulbs, extra bulbs for the game, too, to get a little, here, here's some bulbs for your game. So he was happy. So that was like he paid me what I wanted for what I needed for the game. He's happy with the game. He loves playing it. It's a great memory for him and his family. So that's, you know, at least we ended on a good note with those three games. That was the good note at the end. So that's the tales of woe and tales of success on those three, the trilogy. so on to give me the quick overview of the features of this game ok so start from the top and work your way down alright so three lanes yeah you got three lanes to shoot for you got your left big ramp on the left big loop ramp that comes down and feeds your right flipper you have the middle right ramp that goes up and around and feeds your left flipper. You do that enough times, the left ramp flips up and you shoot under the ramp and it goes into a vertical up kick into the coffin and it blocks ball one, the ball spits out of there, goes in the pop bumper nest. Keep doing that and you'll get coffin multiball. Go the right, up the right lane all the way around the orbit there. You do it enough times, you'll spell video for video mode. It keeps it in the drop target. The bat keeps it in the drop target. And then once you do video mode, the drop target falls down. You go in where the freaking bubble wrap was that's not there anymore. That goes in there, and it comes into this video mode where you're actually going to hunt werewolves. These werewolves are coming at you, and you use left flip or right flip or to shoot a gun back and forth. You know, boom, boom, boom, boom. Right. I had it on, like, regular mode. I put it on hard mode. It was too easy for me. I kept winning it. So now it's like more wolves come out, so it's tougher to shoot them all. So that's that one. You qualify missed multiball by – it slips my mind at the moment how to get missed multiball. But left ramp, shots, light, left tunnel, shoot tunnel to release missed. Okay. So you want to go left ramp, shots a bunch of times. it makes the missed light come on for the pole in the upper left. Shoot that. And then the ball starts walking across the play field here and you have to shoot the ball dislodge it. There's a beam of light across here that when that ball gets out of the beam it knows that you knocked the ball off the track and it knows that you engaged the ball. Are you going to be able to demonstrate this? Yeah, I'm hoping so. Yeah, I should be able to. Let's see. You're trying, when you, the drop target, the stand-ups in the center and the stand-ups in the left. You've got two yellow ones and a middle red one. You've got to hit two yellow ones first. Then the middle one lights up. Once you get the middle one, the red target, it lights a castle lock in the center. And the ones on the left, I don't remember what they do. They do something similar. It might be another castle lock, I think. I'm not sure. I think it does. What else does this thing do? I think that's about it. And just keep getting multi-balls. You can spell Dracula here in the center. How do you spell Dracula? Lock, few balls, and coffin. Coffin, shots, spots, letters. Spell Dracula for jackpot. So where are the letters? Coffin, multiball, right in the center there. DR right there. So that's kind of tough because you have to go walk through balls in the coffin, then keep hitting that same shot under that ramp shot. Keep going for the coffin all the time while you're doing multiball. So what you want to do is you want to hold the ball while you get in the ramp shot so you don't lose, so you're keeping multiball in action. I have to see somebody who actually knows how to play this game because it looks like it could be okay. It looks like it could be fun. That's a fun little player. I come down, I actually enjoy playing this game. I've actually stopped playing my Battlezone for a while, and I'm actually playing more pinball playtesting, because I've got to get the playtesting done in order to make sure it's good to go. Well, it's also a game you haven't had in your collection, so it's got to be fun. I mean, rotating games in and out of your collection. I hear there's some people out there that are, you know, they continue to buy all these new skins, they take the hit, and they move to the next one. I mean, it must be nice you know, take a one $1,500, $2,000 hit on a game and then buy the next one no thanks, I don't get it I mean, I don't know as you know, I'm all done with the new Stern experience, I'll play it but I don't need to own one I too much delayed game for me, too many too much graphics and the back glass and video mode, all that stuff so anyway, track it up Let's see what this thing can do. Let's see what you got, Mr. Bram, Mr. Stoker. Stroker. No, it's Stoker, not Stoker. I know what it is. I had a coach, a football coach in high school. His name was Jack Stroker. Wow. Boy, his parents must have hated him. But you know what? You would never make fun of his name because he would. Well, he had to be tough. He would eat you for lunch. I bet he had to be tough with that game. The rumor has it the guy who made this game, Osler, when he made this game, he was really stoked to make it. Oh, boy. So there you go. Don't quit your day job. Here we go. Launch the ball. Love never dies. It just smells funny. That's what it says here. Okay, show me how this is done. See if I can aim. Okay, here we go. First thing I see is Dave's game plays a hell of a lot better than that two-minute video I saw online. That game was moving at a snail's pace. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. It's like two or three minutes. Just put in, you know, Dracula. You'll find it. He gave the game an 8.6. It's all in the setup. It's all in the setup and optimization. Well, I can already tell that your game plays a hell of a lot better. Hey, thanks, George. Well, it doesn't take much. I mean, you know how to optimize, as they say, or as you said. Yeah, exactly. It's all about optimization and getting to know how to play the game. So you know we have no audio, right? You know what? So your game is not saying anything right now. Is it because of the way you have the settings on this game? Oh, damn it. There. Oh, there you go. Wow. Well, that's freaking Zoom. Should I start over? You didn't hear my bell either, right? Of course not. Yeah. Oh. So annoying. And you wonder why people listen to us. We are just. We are the coin of praise, the hot mess. We are just. All right. You know what? I'm going to. I'm going to. Let's try it. You're doing a restart again? I'm going to restart. F this. You know, freaking boom. All right, anyway. So this is Bram Stoker's Dracula. And we're going to give it a play test here. And the rumor has it Barry Elzer made this game, and he was super stoked to make it. George, super stoked. Bram Stoker. You know, I'm going to include the gas. I'm not editing. You're going to hear the whole thing. Oh, it's ugly. Here we go. Well, once and all, we'll continue to do this show. Can you hear this now? Yes, of course I can. Is it loud enough, the game? Not really. All right. How's that? Better. All right. Here we go. Launching ball. Love never dies, it smells funny. Oh, boy. Oh, a backhand almost. Let's see if I can do as well as the first game. Do they have any cheesy stuff in here? Like, I bought a good quality blow. Is there anything like that in here? No, not really. I mean, well, except when a girl goes, oh. Yeah, that's kind of stupid, but. Oh, expected. There he goes. So, James is attempting to. Okay, so, you've got to do. See, this is repetitive, same shot stuff. But I guess. Yes well it a ramp game Hit the ramp Oh those lightning flippers It like a Gottlieb You know why that is It like playing a Gottlieb Yeah it not too bad That's why. That's like a Gottlieb EM. That's what makes this game fun, though. Very challenging, because of those lightning flippers. Oh, come on. Make the game, then. I find it, I hear this music in my sleep, though. Wham, wham, wham. He's Dracula. Say it while you do. Well, Captain Walk 1. Now, was there a movie associated with this? Yes, there was. That's how this game came out? Yes, it was the guy Keanu Reeves was in it. And Winona Ryder. Winona Ryder. Have you ever seen the movie? No. and Anthony Hopkins we are working is Anthony Hopkins in this film? no we do no research, none that's what makes our show endearing this freaking train wreck or train wreck, depending on your your view did you see that on the news this morning? I guess it happened in I don't know, last year Amazon driver got stuck with his van on a train track. Okay. And he had his video on. I guess they have a video camera in the truck. Yeah. He's sitting there and it took the back half of the truck right behind his seat. The train just went right through it. And you're watching as it's recording the train passing by in the background. Wow. And he was fine? Yeah, look that one up. That's pretty good. I like that. Nothing out of track on him. I'll watch that. I'll definitely watch that. It's very entertaining. So far, I mean, not a lot of action in this game. Well, there is once I can lock a ball here. There is no life in this body. Ten million. Ah, ah, ah. Can I tell you something? I think that coffin mod is in the back of the game. It's been called Count Chocular, or the Count from Sesame Street. I want to re-theme it from the Count from Sesame Street. He's the Count. He counts the... Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Don't like it? I'm not really liking this game right now. Oh, here we go. Here comes the coffin multiball thing. Oh, almost got it. So what are you trying to do? Oh, I'm trying not to lose the ball. I'm trying to go up there. Okay. I'm trying to go right under the ramp there. It's going to be a coffin multiball. Well, I got missed late. Okay, so I got to go in there. See that little flashy... Okay, so you got all three lanes. I got three lanes. There you go. Easy, girl. All right, so I'm going to go under the rampy thing. Nope. Do better. Oh. I just need to aim. I think I'm going to have to go watch my ex-daber play this game. Yeah, I'm sure he's got a video. I'm sure he does. Well, that was very lackluster. No multiball, no nothing. Oh, I got an aim in there, though. Yeah. Not that proud of it, but... This is an episode where I wish I was there playing the game with you. This is... Underwhelming. Well, let me try again. Let's see if I can get a multiball. If I can get the missed... I need to get the missed multiball. I think when we do these episodes, maybe we should find ourselves an expert who actually knows how to play the game, like one of our... Well, I can play... Well, I can actually... I know the game, I just... You know, I just can't really play it today. I just can't make my shots, so... It plays well, it's clean, it plays well. I spent a bunch of time on it. There we go. Okay, we got in the hole. But it's not lit for mist yet. Play Misty for me. Just have to go up the ramp a bunch of times. You can hit that shot. You're pretty good at that shot. Oh, there's a diverter in this game too, right? Yeah, oh yeah. Yep. That thing was a pain in the ass too to get that just right. Boy, what kind of mech is that? it wasn't it kept trapping the ball up there no but I mean if it goes up and down is it a coil or is how does it how does it go back it's a coil it goes up and down and diverts oh it was a mislet so what's it energized and then when it doesn't it de-energizes yeah yep energized and unenergized so irritating I have misled right now of all three coming up. I think if this game happens to be at fantastic, this might be something we, you know, maybe appear in. Yeah, we should. No problem. All right. You know, we can't go and play it because it'll sound like, you know, you're in the middle of an arcade. They'll never even hear us. You know how loud it is there. Very loud. Come on, baby. Boy, that ended it. Except to go hit the hole. Hit the hole for mist, you son of a bitch. Come on. Did I ask you if you ever... If you ever watched that movie Labyrinth? Darn it. No, I've never seen it. Somebody got the game and they were talking about the munchkins or whatever those things are that are on top of the game, those Muppet things. Okay. I guess they jab or you can set the setting to how much you want them to jabber. Okay. And? I just, I think I would find it annoying if the thing at 100% was boxing all the time. You know, there should be a pause. So you put the glass on, but now you've got to put something on. Are you going to show me this missed goalkeeper thing? I'm going to try if I can even do it by cheating. Remember I said that maybe you should do a video with your hands? Maybe this is the video. This is the one. All right, here we go. Here comes the miss. There. All right, here it is. I hit the ball. I hit the ball. Here we go. 10 million! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! 15 million! Two ball multiball. And there goes that multiball. And they're all done. It's a tough game. I thought the ball was supposed to go across the playing field. It did. Did you see it? It's a tough game. I thought the ball was supposed to go across the playing field. It did. Did you see it? It's a tough game. I did. Did you see it? No. Yeah. It was going right here. No, I never saw it. All right, hold on. Yeah, I need that. Okay, so you keep hitting that left frame. Okay. because that will qualify missed if I can get the freaking thing. Okay. How do you got to hit that ramp a load of times? I think the second time you get missed, it's tougher. You got to shoot it more times. Come on. Get up there. Jeez, I don't know. Is that a gun? I don't think it aimed. There's a lock. Okay. Oh, there it is. Okay, missed. Okay. All right. There. Okay, I'll let the ball go across. Mystery, yeah. And give me the missed. Oh, there it is. There it goes. You get hit before it goes. I missed it. Now, if I miss it, it goes back into the home over there. And you didn't see. Whoa. So I read that this was done on an EM. Do you know the name of the game? An EM did this game? Yeah. Did that miss multiball thing that traveled across the place? No. Are you familiar with a game by Sega called Galaxy? No. I'm not either. So here's coffin multiball. There's a four-ball, though. Yeah, I'm going to have to get off. There we go. Oh, I just spelled some letters. Now, if I go over here... Aha! There you go. Okay. I'm, uh... I gotta play this game. It didn't translate very well on the screen to me. And over here, the skill shot is, when the, see the face is moving around? You want to time it so when the ball, it hits a drop tire to the top when the speder face is on, I think it's like 5 million. I think you wait until it's on... Oh, you're talking on the LCD. Yeah. See, did I get it? I got 4 million. So I got it at the speder face, so I timed it right. Oh. I get you, Phil. Now, the other mod I'm going to do in this game, I'm going to put Billy Baldwin's face on Dracula's face. I wonder that but Billy Baldwin up there what do you think? I saw that at a tournament at why? at Pinfest oh because no one likes Billy Baldwin he's a blood sucking pain in the neck there you go actually working this game is kind of pain in the neck get it? pain in the neck? alright good oh boy ok are you done? I think I'm done ok I think we're done I love I love a stormy than pride I'm going to leave our audience with this. Having lived in New Robert Englunds for the last 37 years, I'm watering my lawn in February. Wow. Does that seem odd to you? It's very odd. It's very weird. Well, if you want your sod to live, you need to water it. someone call you a poor sod for doing it so early George I thought you were going to call me water boy but either one would work thank you isn't that from Aquilon you poor old sod yeah it could be he's English he made like an English statement there well anyway anything else I'm ready to call it quits Yeah, I'll give you a brief... Oh, I got one more thing. I'm sure you heard the rumor. August is having a little trouble getting out their latest game. Yes. And I'm feeling pretty good about it because I think my game became more valuable. Yeah. This is a quick preview of the Black Knight here. What's that big blue thing? I probably asked you this already. Is that a cap in the bottom right? No, the cabinet. Big cap. The backbox. Yeah. That thing's gigantic. Yeah, that is for lamp voltage for some reason they use that. Never really goes bad. I mean, I've only had one go bad once, but this guy Incognito made a replacement for it because you only can't, if you get those, they're expensive. He has, like, you use two smaller caps and a whole other thing. You take that out and put something else in instead. You get rid of the two. It looks like a big boy can of beer. George, you're always taking beer over there. It's becoming that time. It's been kind of a trying day before I got to you. Oh, okay. Wow. People not paying attention. I don't like when people don't pay attention. Well, if they don't pay attention, they will pay. Is that the kind of situation? No, no, no. It's just, you know, I don't like to repeat myself multiple times. Oh, yeah. It's called paying attention. Right. Got it. And I think by my demeanor you can probably imagine it's not a good scene when I get frustrated. So leave it at that. I'm having a much better time now. That's good. You've elevated my attitude for the day. How's that? Nice. Nice. Me and Dracula. Good. It's going to be interesting to listen to this back after you've played the game. But everybody always wants us to hear it. I'm glad we did it at the end of the podcast. But we've got your feature coming up. My feature? Bonus feature? Yes, bonus feature, yes. You've already pitched it, so I think we can end here. Next month, as I said, we're going to do, as we've done every year, the Pintastic preview. That should always be interesting. You never know what we're going to say there. I could be benevolent and invite people on, but I'm not, so leave it at that. Are you going to... Is a list out there yet? Do you see a list of games you saw? I haven't looked. Dave, I've been so preoccupied. Literally, my existence has been watching my contractors so that they don't make a mistake or do something that I don't want and that's been my television for about two or three weeks. Oh, wow. Right. Everybody's making fun of me. All my longtime friends, longer than you, even though you're a 20-something, guys I went to college with, they're just giving me crap. They're like, oh, we know what you're doing. Yeah, because if you don't watch some, chances are they will mess up and say, why'd you do it? I've caught a whole handful of things, trust me. And, you know, chances like, well, I go, I'm watching, just relax. I know when to pull the trigger and say something. Just, I'm having walls put in as you saw in that picture. I had them rip the wall out. Okay, okay, yep. I had them rip the wall out because it wouldn't meet code. I'm like, No, wrong. Rip it out. So, yeah. That's kind of been my couple weeks. So I haven't paid a lot of attention to pinball. I promise in the next show I will. I think we should end it there unless you have one more thing. Yeah, I do. I got some stuff. So I'm actually, speaking of Silver Bowl Rumble tournament games, I have a list of the tournament games. Oh, you went out and looked. Okay, go ahead. So we got Barracora. It's a fun Williams game from 81. We got Bow and Arrow, which I guess they started repeating games, because I know they had Bow and Arrow before in the lineup. I remember that game, too, because I always think you're a really nice game. We shouldn't do a lot of commentary. Just kind of go through the list. Yeah, sure. Congo. Harlem Globetrotters. Yeah. All right. I like that. Meteor. Cool. Pinball by Stern. That's fun. A Pinbot. That's okay. Rack'em Up. Not one of my favorite Gottlieb games from that time frame. It made during the Gottlieb, when Pinball was dying. A Pulp Fiction. Oh, they got a Stars in there, too. So, are you going to participate in this? We're going to leave our audience hang for a month. and are you going to step up and play in this thing? Because there's some games in there that you're familiar with. This seems to be in your wheelhouse. There are. They've got Stern Viper. I like that. I'd play that. I'd play Stars. I'd play Pinball. More importantly, are we going to see our good friend Eric? Oh, I'm sure. If there's points to be had, money to be had, he'll be there. Okay. If he can get the time off. He's got a situation with his We've gone through He's got a problem With the TV station He's doing weekends So it's tough for him to get away I get it Anything else? I think I think that's it I think everybody's going to be I think they're going to like the Bonus feature This time around I got a couple good games on there to get some good commentary, good gameplay, good camaraderie that people will dig, I'm pretty sure. So much so that Maureen and I were playing the game, I told you we were playing the game Sorry, and instead of playing music, I played this in the background of us playing those games with music that was being played during that time, and it was very entertaining to listen to us talk and listen to the music or play like a board game. That's one of my favorite board games. Sorry? Absolutely. Wow. When we come down, we'll play that again. You know, Killer Sorry? Why is it called Killer Sorry? Oh, because you've got to protect home. You do got to protect home. Yes, you do. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, we'll take you guys on. Oh, there's always, no, every man for himself. There's always an elevated, let's just put it this way, people's blood pressure gets elevated playing the game. Yeah, you're almost home and someone says, sorry, and you go back to start. Yeah, that happened last night. I taught my daughter-in-law how I play the game, and she ended up kicking the crap out of me several times. I said, it's the last time I ever teach you a game. Wow, she learned really well. Oh, she was like, oh, this is easy. Anyway, right. Yeah, we'll play. I didn't know that. But they won't play with me. They will not play with me playing Monopoly. Yeah, Monopoly, I like the game kind of. Maureen, she just won a lot. I love playing, but they don't like playing with me. Why? Do you hold on to your things too tight and don't want to negotiate? Oh, you've got to be ruthless if you play that game. Yeah, no, Maureen will never sell you a property. No, she wants her money for it. All right, right. But in the end, I say, you might not sell it to me now, but you'll be pleading later. And the price will be half. Right. Oh, I'll take that. You can forgive everything. Or I just bleed you out and say, nope, you've got to sell everything or mortgage everything. Good job. It's all about getting rid of people. actually there's actually if I can find it real quick here we're really going off time I know we said we were going to do this in a couple of minutes well let me we'll do a mail call Dr. Dave podcast mail call so I got this guy saying query on services his name is Michael and he said hello Dr. Dave my name is Michael I am a real estate developer in central Florida and a card carrying capitalist I'm a collector and avid pinball enthusiast I follow your podcast and enjoy your content while listening this week you mentioned you sometimes act on requests to acquire a certain game and do the restoration project for a customer I'd like to engage you to do that for me I understand the podcast you were slammed at work with this time I'm not on a schedule on this when things are done they are done You will never hear me say anything otherwise. I'm in my 60s, and the grail pin has always been a Doctor Who. If not possible this time, please keep me in the Rolodex when and if your schedule permits. I will always make room for a fully restored Doctor Who. He's on Pinside as well. I currently have 25 machines, all modern. I love classics, but have a terror of working on them. I have a tech I am learning from, but a work in progress. Maybe he needs the Florida tech. He does. One airline? Well, in your case, two airline tickets away? Yeah. Could be. Lakeland. Where is Lakeland? Lakeland, Florida. Inland. I think that's horsey country. Okay. Like here. You know, I didn't... Forgive me if I've told the story. Tell me to stop. I have an animal story. Okay. Did I tell you about the fox hunt that went through my front yard? No. A fox hunt. They're actually hunting a fox. An actual live fox hunt went through my front yard. Well, that's a little, were they allowed to? How does that happen? First of all, I've heard that there are fox hunts. I'm going to tell this story in several iterations because there's so much content and people will just be bored. Just let's put it this way. There's a place about a quarter of a mile from my house called, they raise hounds. Basically, the hounds that go after the fox. And I hear them baying in the morning and in the evening when they're being fed. So I knew there was something going on around here. So on a Saturday morning, I just happened to glance out the front window, and I see this red-jacketed person on this beautiful horse in the street in front of my house. And I'm like, what the heck? Then I saw a pack of 30 dogs tear down the hill in front of my house. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? I go out, there's chase vehicles, and there's 30 people on horses and about 30 to 40 hounds going up to my neighbor's yard chasing the quote-unquote fox. You'll have to wait until the next iteration. I'll tell you about my early inquiries about fox hunts, which became untrue. But, yeah, I'm in horsey country, and I think Lakeland is horsey country. It's inland. It's in from 95, if I remember correctly. Okay. I don't have a map in front of me, but I think that's where it is. But Fox is so cute. Why would you want to kill a fox? Boo-hoo. We'll talk about it in another show. Why don't we say goodbye and sign out? All right, we'll say goodbye and sign out. You first. All right. Well, folks, this has been the Classic Pinball Podcast. Another episode in the can, so to speak. And it's been a blast. This is Dr. Dave. That's George. Stay lit and stay tilted. And don't hurt my brother. You go, George. I want to thank our good friend and correspondent in Australia, Grant, for the selection this month of the intro. I never heard that song. We'll get an explanation of who, what, where, when, why. If you know something about it, email us. My name's George. His name's Dave. Stay lit and tilted, and we'll see you next month. Peace, everybody. This special bonus feature, courtesy of the playtest division of Darker Days Pinball. The setting. It's Saturday night. We are mid-game on a freshly restored Williams Grand Prix. Four good friends are enjoying camaraderie, classic rock, and this classic game from 1976. This moment in time will take you back to the golden era of the arcades of the late 70s and early 80s, where pinball was king. Sit back and enjoy. We'll be right back. Oh, come on. Wait for that. You know, you a second? Yep. Wow. Yeah, exactly. Wowee. That's pretty good. the nonprofit who at on god and All right. Boom. Mounted a comeback, however. Wow, ball two. Ball two. Wow. Got a battle coming up here. This looks good. What the hell, man? Oh boy. It's funny, mano a mano. Yeah. I think it's five balls. It might be three. It might be three. I think it's three. Oh, fucking A. You're never going to fucking learn. Jacked open, man. Jacked open. Just close this up, will you? Yeah. That's my embrace. Yes. Magic power. Magic power. I love this song, too. Oh, this is so weird. Oh, my. Oh, God, no. God, no. Yeah, you just gave it up. You even let me do anything. Oh, you're in now, Dave. I was a loser I get mad like I'm running I was a loser It's a good game, yeah it's a good fun game There's a lot of stuff going on with it, I was embarrassed I was a loser I was a loser I didn't give it much credit until I started looking at it and playing it That one was like, oh okay, it's a fun game In nice shape, it's a fun game to have I was a loser I was a loser Oh, that's going to leave us really bummed. All right, come on. That's great. You took the lead. Yeah, I had a house ball, though. We're streaming live. I'm going to leave here. Oh. Yeah, I like that. 4? Ah! Is this it? Last ball, right? No. Is it 5? 3 ball, I don't know. I think it's 3. I thought it was 5. You lied. I lied. You're kidding me. I don't think you're right. I thought it was 5 ball. Oh, I can't get that shot. All right. All right, he's catching up. Oh, there we go. Get in there, get in there. Yeah, get up, man. Get up. It is hard, man, fucking hard. There we go. Nice and easy, nice and easy. Oh, man, I'm doing it, man. I'm telling, but I know what you did that time. This is dull as me. Get out of there. Wow, my God. Big hammer. Nice. That was good. You win again? No, Dave won. You won. He came back and won. All right, pick a game. One more. All right. Somebody pick one. Then you pick it. You pick it. No, no, no, no. You pick it. You won. I'll pick Stargazer. Okay. Take your money. Take your money, Dave. Oh, yeah. Money. You need money to play. Go. Go. Go. Who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored? Dr. Dave! Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! Dave! Right! But George, you don't know what you're saying! You're under their control! Hasta la vista, baby.
  • Proper restoration estimates should include a range (low and high) because hidden damage and unforeseen issues always emerge once a technician begins deep work.

    high confidence · Dave explaining his estimation philosophy; grounded in professional practice

  • A Cryptkeeper-made mod allows the Dracula coffin figure to sit upright in the coffin with a motorized lid that opens and closes.

    medium confidence · PJ referencing a custom mod discussed on Pinside; described as secondary knowledge from reading about it

  • Bram Stoker's Dracula novel was written approximately 125–130 years ago and is now in the public domain.

    high confidence · George stating historical fact; consistent with Dracula publication date (1897)

  • Dave — Emphasizes emotional reward of restoration work over pure financial gain

  • “Being welcomed with a fanfare. I knew right now, okay, this is a good, this is one of the really good customers, you know?”

    Dave — Identifies customer attitude and respect as key factor in determining job satisfaction

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    high · The 555 bulbs...were burnt so bad...they were like welded to this light socket...I had to put three new light sockets...I put LEDs in it instead.

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    design_philosophy: Lightning flippers (1-1/8 inch) designed to increase difficulty and prevent game from being too easy; PJ suggests this may be unique to BSD among pinball machines

    medium · I think this is the only game that did it. These are called lightning flippers. They make the game definitely harder...if you put regular flippers in the game, the game's too easy.

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    gameplay_signal: Bram Stoker's Dracula is valued by players for its ability to stack multiple multiball modes simultaneously (miss multiball, coffin multiball, asylum multiball), creating complex strategic depth

    high · You can stack multiballs. You can be doing, you can have one multiball running and have another multiball running at the same time.

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    restoration_signal: Dave illustrates pattern of unforeseen damage emerging during restoration work; recommends low/high range estimates to manage customer expectations; PJ's BSD restoration exceeded initial budget scope

    high · There's always stuff behind the wall you don't see...I always try to give a nice range, a low and a high, to cover any kind of weirdness that might happen.

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    community_signal: Dave expresses strong appreciation for BSD after restoration; states he would like to own another copy; indicates game has enduring collector appeal despite age and complexity

    high · I wish I had this game and I restored it...I really wish I had this game still.

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    restoration_signal: Multiple clearance problems discovered and addressed: ball getting dejected on middle ramp due to coffin interference, pop-bumper habitrail metal obstruction, coffin assembly geometry requiring creative spacer solutions

    high · The clearance wasn't quite right for it. So I had to be creative on that...There was some other stuff with another clearance thing where they go through the pop-bumpers.

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    operational_signal: Dave's anecdote about Sidetrack Next Gen restoration illustrates ideal customer relationship: enthusiastic reception, emotional gratification, willingness to fund additional work based on demonstrated quality

    high · He grabbed my arm. he goes, no shit, like that...This is awesome...that's better than money to me. That kind of reaction is awesome.