morning spectacular oh all right let's see what we got going on here we got we got sound which is good we're now G to share this link get some people in the house and then talk some pinball I know everyone's like where is it he's starting late I started late today because I went to the gym and it snowed here in rowon and so we had a beautiful really beautiful morning with Killian getting his snow outfit on and he's having a blast so I don't I don't even if I have to keep telling everybody I'm at the point now where if I have to tell you to join I'm done people updates they should just join it is like it is real easy to know where we're at right now uh doing our Saturday morning spectacular here on YouTube I'm sure some people have figured this out what's up Tony Jeremy Charles is in the house let's put this on Facebook right now got a lot of fun stuff to talk about world of pinball happy holidays everybody I love this time of year um it is such a nice time and it is like a time when we all should just give a tremendous amount of thanks to uh to being alive I mean that it's too easy to get lost in all the all the BS of the world it's just too easy you you start to live in your own head too much you start to forget what a miracle it is just to be on a planet circling the sun hurling through space at like 10,000 miles an hour how's everybody doing welcome to the Saturday morning spectacular do I need to even let these people on patreon know I mean it's at the point now where they should just know to go right like let's just make a post real quick quick just in case they need they need to have a reminder we live we live right now all right oh did I not I just messed that up hold on we live right now it's going to be here every Saturday morning I know I did a few on Facebook um I know I did a few like when I was traveling in the old medium but this is this is where we're going to do it and so let's give a shout out to Mr Christopher Franchi is's in the house we've got little Everett in the house we've got sad boy we've got Robert Castle how's everybody doing should we record this let's hit record let's just let's give the kids what they want let's see what this does um main output all all right here we go we're recording I'm trying a new mixer let's see how this sounds in this audacity thing um maybe it sounds better than it would if I was recording it on Audacity uh so we'll see what happens who knows who knows you get more than your money is worth on canus pinball podcast everybody uh we we're gonna go around the horn today there's a lot happening in pinball and it's almost like there's nothing happening at the same time Mr franie I'm happy to report that favorite pinball AR artist will be returning to this year's tppy Awards so Canad pinball podcast was successful in getting that reinstated it was a it's crazy that I had to even do that but it is back it is going to be a category I spoke to Colin I spoke to Jamie uh the one thing is this the one thing is this they still I think they still removed too many of the manufacturer categories and you know Colin was kind of like if you were going to add a couple more back in which would you do right and and he's like on top of artist and you know you got animations you got call outs you got sound you got toys and mechs you got theme versus theme integration so it was like I don't know it it's hard to say which two when I think there was about four or five categories that should all have been put back but it is what it is this chat is worth $5 a loan of course it is I can't tell you how expensive the world is becoming I I me I went to go get gas it's like 490 a gallon one gallon of gas or Canad pinball podcast just so you know um the thing is this I um I told this to Colin that Evil Dead should be eligible because the art is out and I don't understand why a game that's been fully revealed is ineligible for art if it comes because spooky always releases games this time of year and starts shipping in January and I just think it's silly to not make it eligible because then every single spooky machine is not going to be eligible when the iron is hot right hot off the press we get to see this artwork why would that not be eligible so let's go around the horn let's go around the horn let's talk about what's going on in pinball so look I I love that I love that Carrie is like I don't know why people think King Kong is next Carrie look look it's it's funny to me that I always feel like Carrie has to make these a little bit snarky Snipes at Canada uh the reason why I was I was told by a few people that King Kong might be next because of the delay uh with Dungeons and Dragons major mechanism but who told you it was Dungeons and Dragons in the first place canus spinball podcast and in the end it doesn't really matter we know it's going to be D and D and King Kong as the next two Stern games with most likely maybe another remaster of something so I don't really care you know what I'm saying I don't want Dungeons and Dragons I don't want it to be next I don't think Dungeons and Dragons is going to sell very well I also don't really think people understand to this day what Spike 3 is it's not going to be this humongous difference I don't even think Spike 3 I don't even know if it's going to be a bigger screen to be honest now that I think about it it might just be a better screen but not bigger and I I really do think people are going to be a little bit disappointed I I look I've been told I'm just gonna say this straight up I've been told by the senior senior brass B Stern Pinball that everybody should just like sort of curb their enthusiasm around what they expect from Spike three as a thing that you're not going to see some like major platform Innovation or some major major like visual difference what you're going to see is more uh of a power source and more internal beefing up of components that will allow Stern Pinball to to put more into the games so that is where your excitement should lie I don't think you know everyone's like well Spike 3 is gonna launch with some major King Kong moment and and I think that is uh that is probably not going to be the way it works I think we've already seen some of Spike 3 in in uh Metallica remastered we're going to see more of it I also think you're going to see a rolling out of Spike 3 components throughout the year it's not all going to come at once so I I just think everyone needs to realize that the the problem with Dungeons and Dragons right now I I fully expect there to be only 500 D and D Lees I I absolutely would be shocked if Dungeons and Dragons offers more than 500 L's I think even at that it's gonna do a much better job of creating fomo right because if you go back to this whole like half of them go overseas and remember if Stern cuts the Le number in half they haven't cut in half their dealer and distro list so they have so many more people that are now selling their product than ever before so I expect the sell through of a 500 Le a lotman to be instantaneous so they will sell through every single Dungeons and Dragons on day one whether or not consumers will buy everyone is up in the air uh the the spooky boners man someone's going to have to explain this thing to me because I've been um I mean my patreon chat has turned into nothing but spooky boner images uh funny stuff I I absolutely love that we've become sort of home base and Ground Zero for spooky boners but uh I don't know like I don't know the context if someone could write here like how what's the origins of that uh I I would be great I would love a spooky boner hat I would love it I would I will wear it with pride I would love a spooky boner sweatshirt and t-shirt you get me those anything spooky boner I'll wear it uh well we're gonna get to Spooky we're gonna get to Spooky in a little bit all right so fully expect Dungeons and Dragons gang it's coming out in two weeks the game is going to be at CES January 7th uh you know car's update was fun because he's like I'm being told the pro is the way to go on this game and the pro is going to have so much value uh Stern Pinball is in big trouble people if they make a $6,500 pro machine as good as a $113,000 Le I don't think there's G to be uh a lot of sales success if you look down at a pro and it's half the price of an Le I think that's going to be a big issue for stern I think what's happening with Stern is they're designing these games now where they can't remove the major stuff from the game and still have the game function properly and I think that's gonna you know that's why like if you look at an X-Men Pro you you really don't feel like you're missing out that much uh versus an X-Men Le and definitely doesn't feel like you get twice the game in the Le now speaking of X-Men it seems to be and I I don't know if this is confirmed or not or there seems to just be this rumor that Jack danger is sort of kind of kind of over it that he sort of wants nothing more to be done with this game I can't imagine that is true Jack does not strike me as a guy that would ever especially publicly uh abandon ship on his own creation I I don't see him as a individual who quits I I think he is extremely frustrated with the code development of his title and I think he knows that Stern is a you know Stern has this sort of like well if it's not a hit move on to the next so I I I'm a little bit worried that he's never gonna get the support for this game now this game kind of blows like everyone everyone is really uh feeling bad because the the game's art package the design the toys remember when X-Men launched like it it had a great launch and and Jim Weisz's code really became the Achilles heel and then also it's not just Jim Weisz's fault a lot of the mechanical quirkiness of the game really did get people down I think over time I I don't ever think this game is g to be uh a hit hit I think we will see this game end up in a very similar fashion to Avengers so that is what I believe X-Men will become it'll always become a really unique game to have in a lineup it'll never be sort of the the game everyone gushes about it it's not going to end up in the top 30 on pinside it's not going to be uh you know a game that goes up in any value it it'll just be another Stern Marvel game that is fun cuz all pinballs fun uh but I don't think it's going to reach a level that like Foo Fighters got to I I think it's going to just kind of be you know one of these like B minus games when you add it all up so that is sad to see I think the silver lining in all of that is this I think Jack is pissed I think Jack is mad at what was uh done to him in terms of rushing a game I think he's is a little bit disappointed in the code of the game I think he's angry and what I know about in my industry and in Creative Fields like what he's in uh there's nothing better than an angry creative who's never gonna make that mistake again this is only Jack danger second title I fully expect him to channel that frustration and anger into his third title which I think is going to be uh a is hit I'm going to give you guys a little bit of an exclusive bit of information I've heard I normally do this for my paying customers but it's the holiday and I think given a gift so you heard it here first I'm here to tell you right now I heard Stern Pinball has the license for Super Mario Brothers so you start to think about that for a minute right maybe they have Pokemon and Super Mario maybe they've Inked a few Nintendo deals but I'm hearing from very good sources in the belly of Chicago that Stern Pinball has Super Mario and that is music to everybody's ears the right kind of music if they don't do a Super Mario Brothers with a lower play field that goes into the dungeon that plays that music then what are we doing here they also need to do the green sewer pipes that you go into uh it would be amazing with Subway systems left and right so look the thing is this everybody I think we're all on the same spot right now we're we're it's so easy to sort of get into the theme Rumor Mill and get all excited uh then executing is a whole another thing and how long we have to wait to get those said titles is also a a really interesting thing because I don't think the pinball hobby as we know it can survive another two years at these prices and what I mean by that is the new and box stuff is just going to continue to sit and the amount of games in collections people are out of room so something's going to have to give right something's going to have to give the boutiques are going to be fine but Stern's pumping out a few thousand games every month like that like where do they all go where will they all end up so Stern Pinball we're gonna see Dungeons and Dragons by January 7th uh then January February March April then whatever April May right that's when we're going to see King Kong uh expect that I think Comic Con might be around that time of year so it's gonna go Brian Eddy with D and D Keith elwin with King Kong fully expect there to be a Tron remake in the in the mix next year will we get another original title from John Borg before he uh remakes another one of his Classics I think Tron is next I think he sees these remakes as completely new games so that's gonna happen and then you know then we're going to also see some very interesting moves from the company down the Street don't worry we'll get to you spooky we know we want to talk about spooky Jersey Jack pinball um by the time everyone gets their collector's addition of Avatar those games are already worth $112,000 they're not even GNA be I I know I bag on Avatar and I will continue to bag on Avatar because I just think it's such a waste of a of a sort of everything it's a waste of all the resources it was a waste of jjp's time and money to do it they just didn't nail it and the theme was bad to begin with and there's just so many better options and the more I jump on that game the more I realize something's got to change in the way Jersey Jack pinball codes its machines I think I think they need to spend some time on other machines a little bit and see what theme integration should look like out of all the pinball companies out there I think Jersey Jack pinball has severely struggled at theme integration and they've listened to no feedback and I just don't get it I don't get it like when you play the avatar game the level of Disconnect between the characters what's happening on the screen the storyline from the movie and then what's actually happening on the game itself is is completely disconnected and it is it is emotionless it is sterile it is repetitive and it is in my honest opinion it is maybe one of Jersey Jack Pinball's worst games and and I know Mark is a really good guy I don't think he was handed a very great theme and I don't think he was helped out at all and I don't know how you have a whole organization over there who knows how to make really fun pinball machines and then you end up with those lower playfields they're not fun to shoot uh nothing really Innovative about them and then above the game above the play field there's like nothing really there's no toys there's nothing so again Jersey Jack that's the pass Avatar is Dead on Arrival like it's Dead on Arrival like if you bought one sh's beautiful Short's pretty that's not gonna have any impact on creating new demand it's just gonna be I'm I'm telling you the CE is GNA go the same way of Godfather it's G to be a if they even make a thousand I highly doubt they got an order for a thousand of those games because the thing is this is Harry Potter's coming gang February March we will see Harry Potter I want to thank the fact that we have a hundred people who have finally figured out how to get to caned Saturday morning spectacular R and you're here right now on YouTube I want to thank all of my subscribers gang thank you so much uh I finally had to cash out some of my patreon money uh you know where it went it went to paying the damn contractor to get my apartment in New York City ready for sale we we've closed on a deal money just goes out the door people it is it really is crazy it's like a distributor can sell four L and make more money in that one move than I make all month who does more work to sell those four Lees let's like just think about that so whenever you feel like five is too much and upping your amount from five to 10 is too much and then you're you go spend $2,000 on a plastic Topp or just remember time and my life that I enjoy doing this but I'm I I'm still shocked I haven't seen any other pinball podcaster take their show completely behind the firewall I it just it's weird to just always split it up it's just to me it doesn't seem worth it because because I I believe me I love watching what everybody does I like observing it all and you know in the end nobody's grown Their audience at all for like two years now like so it's just you're just Plateau I mean I'm kind of stuck now in this like 7:30 740 I mean I wanted to get to 800 by um by the end of the year it's not gonna happen it's not gonna happen I mean I'm a real is like I just needed like 60 people to invite a friend or give a give a gift of Canada I don't think anyone's even given the gift of Canada um all right so Harry Potter is coming out real soon I think it's going to be a return to widebody I think it's going to be Eric Minor's sort of all right man like this is it here's the thing though if Harry Potter comes out I mean this if it comes out and it's got muted Clips I think I'm just done with Jersey Jack pinball for good I mean that I I just they if they mute the clips and they don't get the right to use the actors with the voices with the scenes with the moments I'm done I I can't I can't play the these games that are like these weird Clips muted Clips in a blender feel it just doesn't work it just doesn't work you know it didn't work with it's like Wonka would have been one of the greatest pins of all time if the modes were actually the musical like the movie and you're in those scenes and those songs are being sung as you go through the the iconic moments of that movie like it just it's not there gang it's all muted like there's nothing in it it's just I don't understand why they code that way complete opposite of James Bond yeah but but I'm so tired of being you know sad boy said wonk is great for what it is but tired of being what it is it's like so obvious what it could have been you know what I'm saying like yeah I get that it's great though like it's good for what they made it but it's not what it should have been it's the same way I just won't get over what Stern did to Star Wars that's that Star Wars game is an abomination of what a Star Wars game should be it and not only that the code I hate I hate stacking different scenes from different movies together just for points it is the worst thing I've ever seen like I never feel like I'm in those Star Wars moments at all like it's just so badly done so it's just look did JJ p pyats is not the best jjp ever jjp pyat doesn't even have any Clips they don't even have any Clips they didn't even get the rights to the music look I get that it's like a pired in inspired game but man how are we saying that a a muted clip no clips at all it's it's one of the worst theme integration in the history of Pinball it's like all that shares with it's like I I I'm gang it's like this a if they if they if they just kept making Pirates guys like we wouldn't be talking about it anymore all right so look and then we've got Steve Ritchie is the Matrix now look I know for a fact that if they do matrix it's going to be a muted clip disaster I don't even think they're gonna have like any Clips I I think Matrix might be like real difficult because I know that that is a license that that you don't get anything all right so Pirates is now at one point after six years six freaking years gang I I don't even know is that a good thing is it like just like it's just pathetic can we just be honest like it's pathetic to take six years to finish your homework assignment six freaking years now look most people are never going to get to that wizard mode anyway and I think I saw it on YouTube and it was stupid anyway like it just the whole thing the whole thing of like all right you can finally get to this impossible to get to mode it's not gonna blow you away and it took six years to complete because the thing is is it's more about what the delay means to everybody than the actual finishing of the code what do you think of David fix on loser kid um we we'll get to American pinball so it we can go to them now and then we'll go spooky okay so like anyway wow thousand pirate owners finally have a wizard mode they'll never get to okay happy holidays pirate owners um loser kid interviewed David fix that happened like two weeks ago I think we've talked about it um I don't think I don't know if Sophia is still there I I don't know who's even still there it seems like there's a list long list of people that have been let go from the organization um I I would I don't know who's even still a part of the organization as of today I think um you know me I mean I'm I'm like let me let me be candid here I'm I'm not surprised by any of this I think um you know the uh the the decisions that were made over the years uh put that company in a position to not be competitive with what the other companies were bringing to Market and you know it there's there's because in the end like whether it's it's AP or Stern or Jersey deck I mean look everybody can make colossal mistakes Stern has made it with John Wick Jersey Jack made it with Avatar godfa the ability for this industry to pick horrendous themes and act use no market research before selecting a title never ceases to amaze me so I I think that in the end when um when American pinball and David fix walked into a garage and saw Dennis nordman's white wood for Galactic tank force that was a seminal moment of do we think this is what the pinball Community will buy and so then you just make you make a judgment call in the end it's a judgment call like Jody Denberg thought that John Wick would sell so did Tim seon and George Gomez right jack guari guer guer right still thinks Avatar is an amazing theme to bring to the pinball market right spooky pinball thought Ultram man was great it it's like but in the end a lot of these companies have failed to even sell a license theme let alone an unlicensed theme known as Galactic tank force now that's that's it you make a judgment call and ultimately it seems like and I don't know much it just seems like Mukesh has had enough and he's sort of holding them accountable in a way now that has made it imposs possible for them to retain a lot of the staff that was over there but here's what everybody really knows nobody cares nobody this isn't like you're if you lose a p you even lose any sleep you have so many pinball companies executing every single year that you're not losing any sleep over this and I I think that that's it like if if half of the pinball companies went away tomorrow you would be just fine there's absolutely that that that's the reality is that we have you know 50% of these companies are are in real trouble uh of becoming obsolete because they just don't have enough either manufacturing ability or don't have themes people want and they're going to struggle to sell so that's it that's it see you know someone just said this like and you know you always hear this like AP builds a good game and they they've mastered the technical part of pinball but but gang that's why it's so that's why it's so frustrating is if you can do the hard stuff like manufacturing right how do you get the easy stuff wrong the easy stuff is getting a good theme people want getting a good artist on the game so it looks pretty I mean October Fest is one of the most loaded games of all time in in modern times like you go look at an October Fest and put it next to Avatar it it has like so many toys so many unique quirky shots so many like fun modes like one-handed drinking beer mode October Fest then went and put the ugliest art package imaginable on the game because Josh cougler was in control of art Josh cougler shelv Matt Andrews Houdini artwork because that's what AP has been for like I don't know maybe since its Inception like just people making really strange decisions seemingly with no accountability or no taste for what the market wants and again as I said last time if they have a hit game next and you know as as I I heard he he said on the interview you know major distros got to see cuphead and placed orders and were really impressed I mean I don't believe anything he says when it comes to like he's not going to say otherwise right I don't know who these major Distributors are um but you know if they have a hit game they can turn it around I mean that's really and I mean that like you know that company has personally hurt me more than than anyone's ever personally hurt me uh and I can't go into the details so I just but I've let go of of all that vitriol and and I don't have any anything more really I just I wish them luck I I think if they have a hit they they need to show it I don't think they have um I don't I don't I think they're running out of time with all the stuff coming and I don't think you know I I don't know I don't I don't think they're gonna bring out a banger if if they're gonna go up against Harry Potter and King Kong and and Matrix and Evil Dead is going to start shipping and pul fiction Ali are finally going out that's it that's that's how I feel so no ill will you know they they sort of they beat me they beat me and and I know when to retreat at times and just let let them have their Victory and that's that okay you know because in the end I've got to take care of my family and my livelihood and I've got to take care of a of a of a baby boy I have a six-month-old baby eight months now I think he is but I just want you guys to know that it was really difficult for me to have someone trying to really hurt me as I was a new father with a baby and a morgage and again like really really destroyed me and destroyed the happiness in this household for a while and and I'll just leave it at that and I don't think anybody if you ever want to like go at people just make it fair just fight fair in life fight fair like reach out to people talk to them manto man but I nobody fought Fair nobody fought Fair and it hurts it hurts to be sucker punched and and not being able to do anything about it but but when you know that's who you're up against sometimes in life you just have to be the bigger man and walk away and and that's that's what I'm doing I'm not I'm not engaging any of any of those people um that's it so um so that's that you know like they got a game to release and that's it so so the thing is let's go to Spooky you know spooky pinball spooky boners Christopher franie um why do people keep why do keep people posting lawyers and retracting messages I I don't know what what what's what people are doing that for I I don't need a lawyer um I'm not being sued I'm not um in legal trouble I just do a pinball podcast a few times a week um all right so the thing is with spooky is I just want to be on I want to be on that train with them I am on the train with them I mean these guys are awesome I mean I don't know if you know this but like bug and Luke hang out all the time on the patreon chat there are subscribers to Canadas pinball podcast they apparently are making me some hats and t-shirts with spooky boners uh I do believe that we have reached a place now in society I'm going to talk a little meta but I'll bring it back to Spooky I think we're all tired of feeling bad about things we're supposed to feel good about and I think we're tired of Superman movies that are dark and grim and you know overly serious and now we're finally going to get a colorful Superman movie that looks like what Superman should be and I love it I love James guns Superman like and I think the most important thing to wake up as many days as possible in a good mood is to surround yourself with Good Vibes and I think vibing has become like a thing right I mean it's it's like kind of like the one good thing about gen Z is they understand this like you gotta have Good Vibes and when you're around people with Good Vibes and you feel good vibes a Good Vibrations right like Beach Boys like you just you're just having a good time like you know you you don't want any to sour the mood you don't want anyone to bring you down and when I look at spooky pinball and I look at this game I mean I don't like the theme still but I look at the way this game is is sort of Landing in the community and I look at their culture and I look at their sort of the way they carry themselves I I Feel The Vibes and I feel the energy I feel the enthusiasm I you know even if look and and I'm going to say this it doesn't they're going to release a perfect game that might not have some issues and this doesn't matter what they've built is something far more powerful than just a good pinball machine they've built a brand and what people in this hobby just don't understand is how much more important it is for the future of your organization and your products and your customers to build a brand start there and yeah absolutely the product is also a lot of what makes your brand your brand and they've had some hiccups along the way but they've built a brand because they've put the people forward they've connected with the community you all know the brand of spooky pinball you know who's there you know what they look like you know what they sound like you know if they drink you know they they like to have fun you know they like to laugh you know they have crazy scientists like Ben heck working on these games they've got the most passionate passionate artist in the history of maybe planet Earth the most passionate artist in all the pinball and Christopher franie they've built a brand and they've built a mly crew of people that like give a damn and really care and they're not only in it for the money and they've also built a brand that listens I mean if I had to like give one thing I love the most is just they listen they listen so Ian's like Stern cares dude come on did I I didn't I'm not even talking about Stern Ian you got to grow up brother you got to learn how to have an adult conversation with people Ian I love you brother but I didn't even mention Stern see this is the thing with Ian bro I'm G Ian I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna single you out right here this is the problem with people nowadays Ian's just like I'm not even talking about Stern I'm allowed to praise spooky pinball and give them credit for all the great things they do and me saying all of these great things about spooky is not me saying Stern sucks you're making that conclusion which is juvenile right it's a juvenile way to listen to someone praise a company I am not talking about anybody else right now but spooky so like just learn how to listen in listen to what I'm saying about spooky I didn't mention Stern at all I know Stern cares because I know Stern I know Stern better than you do Ian I know Seth Davis George Gomez really well all right do you have you had meetings with them intimate meetings with then probably not all right they care but it's a different Beast they've got a they can't they can't quite navigate it as well as spooky so Ian it's all right man it's all right Ian it's all right it's all right we know we know nudge magazine we love it we love the photos you capture a hot chicks playing pinball which is almost impossible but you do it we we're appreciative of it um but that's it spooky Vibes are the best in pinball though they're the best their vibing better than anybody else come on if you kick open the door to a pinball company with a sixpack of beer which door do you want to kick open I mean that's like the to me that's like that's it like do you want I I mean kick open the door at spooky you're having The Best Time Ever let's see what else kick open the door at Stern well first it's so damn big you might not even run into anybody and also when you kick open the door at Stern you're in this like weird sort of like holding room where nobody's there there's just some games lined up in a sort of empty Lobby it's big man Stern is Big you kick open the door Jersey Jack you know you're you're running into a cubicle farm right there in in the front I don't know man I don't know that's just the way it goes that's just the way it goes so look the thing is spooky winning man they're winning and they're they're vibing and they're Jing and when they do goonies next when they do goonies next and it sells out instantly and they know they've got a few other more mainstream things coming like come on gang if they do goonies and Beetle Juice and Christopher Christopher Franchi wasn't wrong like Superman 78 Wonder Woman all those things go make it if they made an original Wonder Woman TV show pinball machine with Linda Carter bouncing around you know what I'm talking about I you're selling them you're you're selling them we want this stuff a team Wonder Woman Night Rider heck Night Rider how is there not a Night Rider pinball machine you're gonna sell because if they only have to sell 888 they would sell More Night Riders than they would of Evil Dead and this is why spooky is in the best position because they can make these like freaking nostalgic things we love and they don't have to make thousands of them and they can do all this fun stuff and then you know we're vibing there we're vibing Ian hasn't Ian hasn't wrote anything yet I'm sure you know this is what happens with Gada that that I get like the dude dude like dude dude come on dude dude it's like it's all right it's all right Stern Pinball does care too they just they just have to make 800 games a week and you know they can't be as transparent because they've got too many customers to field but I look Stern learned a lesson but the problem with Stern's transparency is that it only comes when they're desperate you know they only started inviting people in when you know when they um when they needed to sell John Wicks now I I think they're going to bring people in I think they're G to bring people in for this DND launch before CES so I don't know I don't know if I'm going to get an invite I I maybe like but it's also the holidays like I I don't really want to travel uh in the winter months but I I mean I'd go there and check it out but as I said send me a game I you know I'm the world's favorite pinball podcaster for seven years in a row or eight I don't know how many years now I've lost track I don't even know like world's favorite pinball podcaster one of the largest audiences in pinball like in terms of community sizes of a content creator uh I just send me a game put it in a box I'll set it up here or send it to Automated Amusements it's a 30 minute drive I'll happily go to Automated Amusements and you know I'll bang on it for for two days straight but you know I don't you know I'll go out there too I'll go out there too and and I I learned the word Vibe an hour ago not even this week um I hope everybody supports nudge magazine if you haven't how Ian how can they uh how can they support nudge can you put a link in the chat here for people to to order or subscribe uh nudge is a beautiful magazine they just did a year-end video really cool uh love watching this me some Canada watched you long oh nice thanks pitbull um I I thank you guys I I I've always uh I've always enjoyed uh making this content for all of you so okay so who okay so where are we at now we got spooky vibing let's go next who should we go to next I'll let you guys who do you want to talk about next I I'm I'm completely like I think I've covered off on like the big stuff I know we've got Pulp Fiction L are starting the ship who cares I don't care I really I could care less man it's like who cares like I get it I I'm just over cgc uh I'm over their whole thing I I think they've just day late dollar short on all of it but anyway guys what do you want to talk about we could talk about anything like you could you could ask me my thoughts on uh which dog I should get next or if it's snowed is this live um yeah it's live Abe flips what do you think we're here we think this is recorded you just wrote something live Abe and I just responded to you here look I'll hold up a tppy for Canada's favorite pinball podcast 2020 four years ago here's another one I don't know which year this is doesn't say the inability for them to make the awards look consistent is silly they they every year they were different every year they were different now this this one one year it was like a gold base yep at least they spilled Canada right all the years we are live what do you guys want to talk about H hey Ian did you have a nice cry session when Kam damn Ian they're calling you out oh don't bring politics into this show you might lose your friends like I did it's amazing uh anyway any updates on Alice we can go there um no you know I've been talking to Melvin all all things according to him everything's going smoothly the parts are coming in um and the plan is still to have Alice's on the line in January for Dutch pinball X so um I know he's working on code and that's as much as I know so there's uh so nothing nothing's different about Alice and when you should start to think about expecting games so get ready now the thing about Alice is you know it's gonna be a full year build so I hope you're patient what are your thoughts on the pinball cup um I I thought it was uh stupid uh I'll tell you why like why why did they make a p ball tournament skinned as a race like a like a NASCAR race and then why why first of all just why that like why did it have to be this weird thing like that and then this whole like depending on what tier you're in you're like playing against people of similar skill set so then who cares like I I just thought the whole thing makes no sense like what I would love at the end of the year is a much easier way to just I would like to see the top 64 pinball players in the world play in a simple like March Madness bracket but do it in a way where it's just more fun to watch and I think I don't know maybe everybody just gets one ball per machine you go you go then you go and that's it like just one like you know what I'm saying like because he's got I don't want to watch for 35 minutes as like dudes are nudging machines around over three balls with extra balls I don't all that I don't I don't I don't want all that it's just it's just not I don't care look gang I you know me like I'm not gonna go play in a pinball cup uh I I don't I I don't care like I don't even have time to turn on my machine most weeks uh because I can't play it when the kids are sleeping but it's fine I just from a marketing standpoint the thing that really made me be like what is this is stupid it's the stern ball this whole like we're going to put games away for at least two years uh and so you better get them right now and that desire to create fomo around existing inventory that what's what's two years like it's just all of it just feels so H like desperate to get games going out the door are you going to pinball at the beach Todd all right that's a message for Todd pinball cup would have been fun if while playing you hear a unique sound game audio uh GI goes off you enter a random mode longer you last the more points you get are you going to be downtown for the New York City New Year's celebration um Dwayne um I it's funny it's funny that Dwayne said downtown uh because I don't I I don't you know as a New York City resident for all those years the the ball drop is in Time Square I would not go near Time Square in a million years for New Year's Eve I think it is a terrible place to be dude they they hoard you like cattle and you can't go anywhere you can't go to the bathroom like you're stuck in these like holding areas for hour it's stupid it's cold out and I'm too old to stay up to midnight anyway but if I was going to do New Year's Eve in New York City I would be at Tomy Jazz and I would be celebrating there that that is where I might end up franie what is your Beach Diet what oh my God so um yeah guys I asked you who you want to talk about I got one question about Alice nothing Alice I love it let's just go off topic who cares what do you guys want to talk about haven't heard from Derek uh best friend Derek is still Abandoned Ship he's over there in California trying to ban all internal combustion engines with the California politicians who have absolutely destroyed their State uh they want to make owning any gas car illegal oh like these people like they're just they're just misery like go look at the new Dodge Challenger Scat Pack EV it's the lamest car ever has no soul uh do Teslas make good cars they're all right I mean if you ask me the thing about Teslas now is they're they're just boring the only one that's not boring is the truck but it's also it's just like ridiculous on its own on its own level but they don't make good quality cars when you get into a Tesla they just they're so crappy inside what was Canada's Spotify rap this year how do you even get to Spotify wrapped can can someone show me how to do that because I I have Spotify right here and I'm not even sure like what like everyone talks about Spotify WRA and I'm like all right well where is it like I I'm on my if I'm my homepage like what do where where does it say my rap I don't know it it like I thought it would just be like front and center like like I don't know like do I type in wrapped let's see I can do my your top songs 2024 is that it I mean I get this is it the bottom one is it the bottom one it's it's a tab up top let me see there's no I I don't oh here we go let's see I I don't see a tab up here do you see a tab up here let's go here right playlist all right I clicked playlist yeah these are my playlists is it up top is it by Spotify do I hit that uh it first of all it shouldn't be it it no it shouldn't even be this hard to find it let me just do rap 24 rap I don't know if I have an update at the Spotify app in a while let's see your top song okay wrapped I mean I don't know thing is I play so much anime on here because when I drive the Toyota um it's all like anime music so I just saw like most of it just that because I play them over and over and over um all right so like what were we talking about before I was asked what my wrapped is the best motorcycle I don't know anything about motorcycles um talk about DPX space mission x what is that you mean Blade Runner I look the thing is rumors about what is in King Kong I I I'm assuming King Kong has a big gorilla you know like I I think Kong is gonna have a big Kong with like two hands like you know I I think it's gonna have to have something with big hands I know we just got that in X-Men but I mean I know there was people rumor be like X-Men looks like it should have been Kong with the big head and the two hands um you need you need the Empire State Building but they might might also do more Skull Island Kong than Kong being in New York City you need to have it is a subu is not a Toyota I can't wait wait till Toyota makes a groundup version of this car that is the tradein will happen instantly um but yeah I look the thing about rumors gang is I think we know them all we know them all and I I just I want something to come out that actually delivers and exceeds our expectations of what the rumors are what is stopping I think Superman's going to be made into a pin for sure um I bet Kong is going to be like Frankenstein tossing down the Playfield maybe just change the building in Godzilla to the Empire State Building that's true let's talk about why people insist on making their stuffing for Holiday dinners with twigs and nuts and why they don't just make good old B I mean I don't like I nobody likes raisins and stuffing my mom makes the best stuffing but it's homemade but got to use like H she uses like like Italian bread crumbles it up like really makes it amazing my mom's stuffing is like it's I think it's bread based with sausage and it's just H it's so good it gets it's just no no raisins no I don't even there's any veggies in it um just like X-Men flippers going wild did I miss your reaction to jengis calling you out on the W podcast um I don't I don't listen to [ __ ] podcasts um I don't know um yeah I don't really care what Jenis says bro I mean that I haven't even thought about that guy since he uh since I don't you know ever like I don't I don't I I don't even un I don't even last I don't even is that show even like is it even like free like I think they now charge you right to listen to that show uh I'll tell you how much money I would pay to listen to D jenas talk about pinball zero okay zero I'll tell you like you know I it I again I don't I I don't know how to even respond to something I haven't heard about I'm doing my thing last time I checked I've got more subscribers and every single pinball podcaster combined you know so I'm happy with that so that's that you know I um if I had a dollar man for every time people call me out it's just it's bait man because they again they want to they want me to talk about them on my platform because nobody cares about their platform I mean it's just that simple the that's it that's it we've got we've got an audience like if they went live now they they they're not doing it if they ask for subscriptions they don't get them if they you know they do YouTube videos nobody watches they don't care like nobody cares um and yeah he used to be a friend and that's what happens is like look every once in a while every once in a while you just you realize like I can be friends with grown adults and men and you know sometimes people just become I mean I don't even want to say a derogatory word but they just like you know they get their panties in a wad and they can't they can't handle getting jabbed at like or like boys you know the thing about men is like you got to be able to jab your friends and make and and take the piss out of each other and and pull each other's leg and like make fun of each other I I when you can't take a joke about you it's so it's like you if that's like having such thin skin is so funny to me because it's like well I don't know I don't even you know it is what it is also gang you all know this um you all know this the um yeah because I don't take myself seriously Robert I really don't I think people should wear hats that say lover boy I mean I my sorial choices are all over the place but I have fun every time I dress up look whenever I walk around and in whether it's my double breasted Ralph laurren or Gucci or this hat like people are just like they love watching people with like who are having fun the world's boring man people all Drive boring cars dress the same like and I get it like not everybody can can feel confident enough to just Express themselves a little bit differently but I just I grew up in a fashion family and I just like the fact that clothes can just you can have fun with them and you shouldn't have to you know dress conservatively just because you're an adult and look gang trust me when I say this I know what to wear when and for those of you out there you you know I dress up for this show because it's my I I dress as certain way for the show because it's a show but if we're going to go if we're going to go have like a nice espresso Martini at The Greatest Bar in all of New York City which is not Tomy Jazz it is the grill which used to be the Four Seasons it is the only restaurant in the entire country bet you didn't know this it's the only restaurant in the entire country that is landmarked do you know what that means it means nobody could ever come into that restaurant bar and change a single thing it is the most stunning bar you will ever have a drink underneath the chandelier above the square bar is so incredible and they make the best espresso Martini in the world so good they don't even call it the espresso Martini they call it the vodka martini that's how good it is now I took Derek there I've taken my friends there I think each one is $22 or more I think it's $24 a drink for one of those so here's the thing thing though here's the thing when I go to the grill I don't wear lover boy hats and you know Louis Vuitton jeans and stuff like no I I dress appropriately okay so it's just like that that's it that's how you should be you know when in Rome When in Rome but if I'm just slubbing around the mall where whatever I want I'll look like a yeah I don't care if I would look like a clown I don't care you know I'm confident I get to get to come home and make love to a beautiful Irish woman who's a you know was winning beauty pageants now she just decided to marry me Bren is the best you know so it is what it is it is what it is I get to feel a beautiful woman who loves me and uh is is attracted to who I am and so that's that's all that matters I don't care what other people think if I cared what other people think if I cared like I don't it doesn't matter it doesn't matter um I make fun of you all the time you should you don't pronounce the exd merry Christmas okay I don't know Albert what's up brother I think Albert's angry alpaca um who cares how people dress it would like to be look you know the the thing is is like the thing is just have fun this Journey's too damn short you know I I don't even know I don't even like that's it you know all the Canada haters out there they all listen that's that's the funny part is like they listen I don't listen to anybody anymore like I I like every once in a while yes I'll listen if the topics on the pinball show are good you know Zach's been putting a lot behind the pay wall I again like I just I don't like that format and I I told them this like they all know this like I just don't like teeing up a a free show to then make people pay like it doesn't work it doesn't work on that platform you Don looks silly always asking people to subscribe only for $400 a month it just doesn't make any sense like why like and the amount of effort these like they have to do to make two different shows it you know in the end if they all just went behind the pay wall they would just make more money you know because because you know they want the attention and so I I think Canada realized well you can have both if you make a really good show people are really not going to want to go a week without having it wall I had what three to 5,000 people would listen for free and made zero dollars that that was successful um I don't really think anyone hates you these days we need a late night stream to yeah like no I mean look Jen is I bet Jenis hates me because you know he he he's just like he's like Derek you know they just they take their ball and they go home they can't have a com if they get upset they can't call you like a man I mean this like I I want to just say this like if you have a problem with somebody just call them up and say something like don't make stupid videos don't do stupid podcasts like it it's just like you can't you can't you can't even Face the People cowards man they're cowards they fight they fight unfair they fight behind closed doors but they can't fight you face to face because they know destroy him destroy him I would do a show with that guy in a heartbeat destroy him destroy him because you know what it is they don't even want to answer like the tough questions like what do you actually do for a living that's always my favorite like what do you actually do for a living right like what do you do every day you wake up what do you do they don't really walk around Denmark collect the collect the money that my brother's games make and that's what I do that's it wow real riveting great use of a college education everybody you don't want to oh we got a few more minutes how's everybody doing happy holidays people cargo shorts I gotta go Christmas shopping today I got I got a few more I gotta get I don't know you know the thing is is like we Brendon and I made this this deal to just like not do Grand gesture gifts make sense like we we are in a very expensive time right now as we get the apartment sold because we're paying for a New York City Apartment the maintenance guys maintenance 3,000 plus a month three okay this just maintenance apartment's fully paid for every month 3,000 Child Care 6,000 mortgage right now until I knock the apartment against this is 6,000 you know then you got that's just okay so then you're you're at right now 15 $117,000 a month that's not even car payment that's not even insurance it's not it's like hello hello who wants to go buy a $15,000 Jersey Jack CE so um a year from now less than a year from now once we refinance with the apartment money against this house I I'll be I'll be at Gucci again again you know doing um doing champagne shots in the in in the DIY room um so like you know like buying expensive Christmas gifts at at this juncture this year doesn't make much sense but that being said I know myself and I'll probably just go drop like 10 G's on her today at the mall like I'll go to cardier or Tiffany that's a this is what can does you know I like well and then I just think about how much I love her I've got the money I'm like well cool only live once I'd rather buy Brenda like a 10K like piece of jewelry than a pinball machine take care of her first anyway she is taking care of I mean don't get me wrong I mean when you got to this house too can't can't quite say that even though it's true you know you know when you try to tell your wife like oh I did get you this house he's like well what do you mean you got me this house one was like well where do you think the down payment came from what what do you mean like like I we're a team 100% a team but financially we were not equals like but you know but like the work she does trust me she does way more than I do she got all this together she found this house she found the realtor she did women will like run circles around men in their ability to work hard to stay focused to get all the paperwork together to get everything going like like I would have just sat on my ass in that dumb apartment and still be there being like well it's not so bad so I know ah this is the most tap dancing we've seen this morning Ian gez come on let me get her a copy of nudge magazine for for Christmas and then we'll get divorced hey you going after operators now Hans what are you talking about Hans I feel like you're like stuck in a moment I feel like Hans for some reason has been stuck in a moment of uh I don't know why man Hans it's time to let it go we didn't even talk about operators but you know I I just Hans what was the thing you were all hung up on earlier I don't even remember man I don't even like if you're operating games and you're making money God bless you what else what do you want me to say like I don't I don't know you know what that's what these things were supposed to be for there's a reason there's a coin slot in the front of every game it's to make money like it's it's idiotic that we spend all this money put them in our home and they make no money it's a coin operated device this is staying on topic as often as an Orbee pod well we already covered what's going on gang it's the end of the year it's the holidays it's Christmas on Wednesday uh you know I I think everyone is in the same boat the games have to be magical you're not going anywhere near them there's a lot of rumored games coming out we just want to see them we want to make sure they're as good as our expectations of them are in our heads uh GES are way too expensive everybody knows that I don't have to tell you that and I think we're going to see more and more people just wait I don't like why would anybody Rush In on anything unless it's a Keith lwin Le and there's only 500 unless it's a dream theme and everything else is going to be you know just spectate for a while and you'll be fine Metallica we didn't talk about Metallica but you know look Metallica is going to do do just fine I think what's going to be scary is like you know in like a year from now now we're going to have like thousands of each version of Metallica out there that there's just going to be so many metallic on the market the Ellie are definitely cool they uh you know I just I mean it when I say it like I I think the smart people sold out at 18,000 I don't think you're ever going to see that again I think it was a sell it sell it for 18,000 make $5,000 go buy a premium for $5,000 cheaper than it you know then then your premium only cost you what like $4500 and you're for $4,500 you're having the same exact experience as a guy that spent $18,000 on it think about that for a minute the $114,000 difference to play the same exact game I just think owning L to me and and I mean that it's just the whole vibe around having the the nicer version that's exactly the same game as everybody else does anyone know where a Catwoman edition of Batman is for sale if you do can you PM me because I've even been talked off of the like SLE SLE you know so apparently the Catwoman version of Batman was built at a later date it's built better they fixed a lot of the issues it shoots way better and and also the Catwoman Edition is kind of now become very rare like you don't see them anywhere so they weren't numbered but it's a it's a different addition I one the one thing I'm curious I think Stern might do a 60th anniversary of Batman next year and and that could be a real thing or 2026 maybe it is right because I think it was 2016 we got Batman so maybe it's in yeah year after next there's more than a hundred Catwoman out there that's not true they only made a hundred no that can't be accurate I don't think Stern's ever made that low of a number ever Chris I I know I don't know where you got that number stranger things is a weird frustrating basic layup that is much better than it should be well because it's the theme man I mean when Stranger Things music comes on and the upside down and it really does give you some wow moments problem is they can't do a new art package they don't need to do a new art package franchi's given them enough art that they could just arrange that art they own the art now right and you know you know what I'm saying like I I think when when franie makes that art for stern uh what the license holder owns it or Stern but Stern can now rearrange it without having to go back to franie I would see I'm I'm assuming they have all the highres images yeah I mean look Christopher Franchi if franie said he'd go back and work with them look they have they have a they have a dialogue those guys again everything's negotiable I think the Le should have lifetime benefits like a lifetime warranty or something nothing gives you a lifetime warranty man Kevin like you'd be out of business in less than a lifetime if if they offered stuff like that you're G you're going to be giving people warranty on 15 years later on a broken like you know Sparky no um Diddy's pinball mod it's not even live I think that's what the contract is clown I I don't who what's the clown comment um we don't talk about ABA we don't talk about did anyone even buy did anyone out there buy the funh house remake that whole thing man I think Rick at planetary just really botched all the all these remakes like the strategy around it all is just he should have like fig he should have just done it better like like we're only going to make this many of each there's going to be one or two tier of the versions and that's it and you know I I just like the code updates they've done have been bad I want to make my own for my Jurassic Park look I don't think also like spooky is gonna have an issue if franie goes and like touches up another version of Batman that's different you know but look gang gang it's um it's a beautiful day here in reden Connecticut I want to encourage everybody to bur Bury Bury in the snow any bad vibes you might have with anybody in this hobby I think everybody probably has a a pinside enemy that is they've blocked they've ignored I think it's uh Life's Too Short you know and when people drop in like oh this person says something about you this person like well you you listen to the show like I'm not going down a list of people attacking them and if people want to use their platform for that it doesn't matter I'm whole I'm 100% confident in who I am and and that this is the place to be and I think you know that's why we've got a great audience here I'm actually happy I'm seeing more people join here than we used to have on Facebook and I think uh YouTube will help more people discover the show as well and well you don't bend over because people well I the thing is Josh it's Gotta like the thing is this too is like I just don't care to be friends with the manufacturers I I'm openly transparent about this would I love to have a senior level marketing creative role like a chief creative officer or like a CMO role at a pinball company one day sure but that's the only thing that would excite me I'm not just you know I want to I want to help them understand that after 12 years of studying this industry and this Hobby and the community that I I think I know more about the mindset of people who buy their games their and I mean this like the new andbox home buyer is the most underserviced Community member when it comes to decisions these pinball companies make and then yet they're the most important for these pinball companies to survive because they've treated everybody like their mindless cattle that will just buy anything and and maybe they were not wrong there because people were mindlessly buying everything for so many years but that's over like that is over I know I mean I part of me is just like I I don't even want to think you know what a salary would be like at Stern for a role like that I I bet it's half as much as I make right now um but you know I don't know it is what it is who knows I don't know I really I don't know I can't even speculate I can't even speculate um everybody look we're we're all gonna um we're all gonna have a good time over the next couple of weeks I hope you guys are all getting the eggnog ready this is a time of year to meet friends have have Merry drinks with people and have cookies and watch little kids eyes light up I mean I can't tell you what excitement awaits in this household i i Killian's gifts are GNA blow him away he is so excited he loves the PAW Patrol and I have a big surprise for him in that space he's got a bunch of stuff coming uh to see the holidays through the eyes of a child is just the most magical thing and even this morning when he woke up and it was snowing and and there was snow on the ground he's like Daddy I want to show you look daddy the you know and he's so cute because he he gets excited that there's also snow in the backyard and the front yard he's like and Daddy come here look there's also Snow back here like every little thing makes their world just light up and they get so excited and I'm really really uh just I I mean I can't express to all of you what family means right and you guys all know this and and I'm happy to say that I feel like we're all part of an an extended pinball family uh and as long as we have each other and hang out and have good good you know good conversation like this I think all of us you know don't really feel that alone I think we've got our immediate families and I think we've got our pinball family and we've got a fun product that there's not too much of it I I think that's what I love the most about pinball there's too many cars out there there's too many watches there's too much other stuff like I I went on eBay last night I I typed in Nintendo and like people selling like 80,000 like $400,000 Nintendo DS Pokemon cards I'm like what what's wrong with all this crap at least in our world the prices do get crazy but at least you have a an understanding of how pinball marketpl happens and the forces at play are easy to understand I don't understand how a sealed copy of Mike Tyson's punch out could ever be worth $200,000 why would anybody even care about an unopened Nintendo game like I just don't even understand that and at least our hobby isn't driven by just ludicrous stuff like that like with the you know what I'm saying like there's no $100,000 colors we only made one X-Men with a different color leg on it like you know there some variation Pro it's just no no um yeah I love the Superman trailer I I thought it was amazing it it gave me goosebumps it gave me goosebumps I'm also loving Skeleton Crew if you haven't seen the new star star Wars TV show Skeleton Crew it is one of my favorites uh it's it's like Goonies meets Star Wars it is absolutely incredible I love the story I don't want to spoil it but the story is what I love so much it just I miss good storytelling you know because For the Longest Time Disney was taking everything and jamming their social woke Dei crap down our throats I mean when you look at the acolyte that's all that show was it was like jamming every social Dei representation thing that Disney wants to jam down throats that's the acolyte cool story wasn't that good you're cancelled now I'm watching a great story with kids and it's not trying you know I'm not gonna there's not going to be like all this forced BS happening in it like it's not woke it just is great well I think a skeleton crew pin knowing how fun the show is would be be awesome but I I worry though that I don't want them to make it until the story is complete I I don't like you I don't like their like H missing out like stranger things is like that like the pin's never going to capture all the show look no Star Wars pinball machine should should be praise because it's decent and that is that is a failure if your Star Wars machine is decent you've failed um yeah Gina Gina got the raw end of the deal anyway everybody look we're at 11:30 I know he started a little bit late but everybody have a very because we won't be talking until after Christmas have a very very Merry Christmas um thank you guys for subscribing and for hanging out and don't worry more podcasts are coming I'm off from work so you're probably going to get podcasts all the time and I think will we see a teaser I think we're gonna see Stern tease it like January like 4th or that Friday before the week of the 7th um I love Andor I mean I named my second child Cassian after Cassian Andor I don't know if you guys know that he's a leader of the Rebellion I think Andor is one of the greatest things ever and I just love the name Cassian I love Killian and Cassian both my boys have my initials so that when I have all my monogram stuff it it works um Andor is amazing all right everybody a happy holidays to you and your families we'll talk soon later