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PNP 595- Top 10 Band Themes we NEED from the 50's, 60's and 70's!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·57m 41s·analyzed·Oct 24, 2024
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TL;DR

Orby ranks top 10 1950s-70s bands deserving pinball machines; discusses Rush, Metallica Remastered, and personal recovery.

Summary

Orbital Albert (Orby) hosts Pinball Nerds Podcast episode 595, counting down his top 10 band themes from the 1950s-1970s that deserve pinball machines. He discusses Buddy Holly, The Who, The Kinks, Ramones, Jimi Hendrix, The Cure, The Clash, Neil Young, and Fleetwood Mac, interspersed with personal anecdotes, commentary on Stern's Metallica Remastered, and promotion of a sale on his X-Men 49 machine. The episode blends music discussion with pinball industry commentary and personal life updates.

Key Claims

  • Stern has not raised prices in a couple of years

    medium confidence · Orby discussing Metallica Remastered pricing in opening segment

  • Metallica has received a third pinball machine (with a special edition between first and current releases)

    high confidence · Orby: 'Now that we've had Metallica getting arguably their second if not third pin because they did that medium special edition between the two'

  • Ray Day is working on code for Metallica Remastered

    high confidence · Orby: 'It looks good. It sounds great. It's awesome that Ray Day is working on the code where I'm excited for Metallica Remastered'

  • Lyman F. Sheets did the original code for Metallica

    high confidence · Orby: 'They don't tread on any of the awesome code by Lyman F. Sheets. They just enhance it and make it better'

  • John Borg designed the original Metallica pinball machine

    high confidence · Orby: 'That's why we're all so excited to play it. But before we get a fourth Metallica pinball machine...John Borg's masterpiece, Metallica'

Notable Quotes

  • “Stern has not raised their prices in a couple years now, which is awesome.”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ Opening segment — Signals positive market sentiment regarding Stern's pricing strategy restraint

  • “I'm excited to play it. I'm not excited for the prices of the people who have the old LEs and even the old premiums and pros.”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ Opening segment — Highlights community concern about secondary market value erosion for existing Metallica machine owners due to Remastered release

  • “every theme on here is better than barbecue every theme on here I dare say is better than Legends of Valhalla”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ Number 9 discussion segment — Direct criticism of American Pinball's recent releases Barry's Barbecue Challenge and Legends of Valhalla as weak themed games

  • “I think he did okay. I understand where Jeff is coming from, that you don't want to be blaming Marty and vice versa, but this is supposed to be a top 10 list.”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ Number 9 discussion segment — References Haggis Pinball drama and recent podcast discussion between Jeff Teolis and others, suggests controversy remains unresolved

  • “I almost think, well, two of their albums, there's not even a bad song on anything.”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ The Kinks discussion — Emphasizes depth of catalog quality as criterion for pinball machine worthiness

  • “why do they not have a frickin' like, seriously, why do they not have a frickin' pinball machine by now?”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ Ramones discussion — Expresses frustration at gap between band cultural significance and lack of pinball adaptation

  • “I've heard people say all the time they don't really love the band Rush, but they absolutely love what Ray Day did with the code.”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ Neil Young discussion segment — Demonstrates how code quality can overcome weak thematic appeal—relevant to game design philosophy

Entities

Orbital Albert (Orby)personRay DaypersonLyman F. SheetspersonJohn BorgpersonJeff TeolispersonMetallicagameMetallica RemasteredproductStern Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Haggis Pinball controversy and Final Round podcast segment; Jeff Teolis discussed handling of situation; Orby indicates unresolved tensions

    medium · Orby: 'I expected maybe Jeff would talk about Haggis in more of a like, geez, I thought he would be a little bit more apologetic...I don't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: American Pinball's recent releases (Barry's Barbecue Challenge, Legends of Valhalla) criticized as weaker themed machines compared to potential band theme options

    high · Orby: 'every theme on here is better than barbecue every theme on here I dare say is better than Legends of Valhalla'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Code quality can overcome weak thematic appeal; Rush example cited as band many don't love but machine is beloved due to Ray Day's code

    high · Orby: 'I've heard people say all the time they don't really love the band Rush, but they absolutely love what Ray Day did with the code'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Licensing negotiations are practical constraints on band machine selection; ease of IP holder engagement, cost, and rights to music/imagery are decision factors

    medium · Orby: 'if I were actually marketing at one of these pinball companies, I would cross-reference this list with who's easy to work with...who costs less...Who are you going to get all the good songs from?'

  • $

    market_signal: Three-tier licensing model (Pro/Premium/LE) for major titles acknowledged as commercial reality; affects machine differentiation and pricing strategy

Transcript

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0:00
All get around, he's on the rebound, hear the sound of our buddy, oh lordy, it's Orby, pinball now to rejoice, he's tugging pinball, craft beer and coffee, mixed with syrup and honey, he wants to laugh with his family in a random tangent, stories of his boys, he's on the poor man's pod network, we're gonna get more listeners, Welcome back Pinball Nerds to episode 595 of your fifth favorite pinball podcast. My name is Orbital Albert and on today's episode we're going to be counting down the top 10. We just heard Stern's new and I love it. It looks good. It sounds great. It's awesome that Ray Day is working on the code where I'm excited for Metallica Remastered. I'm excited to play it. I'm not excited for the prices of the people who have the old LEs and even the old premiums and pros, of course. But I mean, that was the one bad thing about it. Other than that, you know, and maybe arguably the pricing. But Stern has not raised their prices in a couple years now, which is awesome. But let's get right into this list. I'm going to be doing a top 10. now that we've had Metallica getting arguably their second if not third pin because they did that medium special edition between the two. Now that we've had Metallica getting their third pin, what other bands deserve a rock and roll pin? If we're never going to do a sports pinball machine ever in our lives, let's do some more rock and roll. So I wanted to break this up because I didn't want the 80s. The 80s deserves its own top 10. The 90s deserves its own top 10. The 2000s all the way till now. Yes, that's 24 years, not 10. Sorry. I'm a baby of the 80s. I'm a teenager of the 90s. So that's what you're going to hear a lot about. But the 2000s until now, if you will, they deserve their own podcast as well. So today we're going to be doing like, I don't know, the 1950s all the way till 1979, the year I was conceived, the year before I was born. So all of this music came out before I was born. Now, there could have been a lot of bands who made this list. Originally, I did have, I will say it straight up, I did have U2 on the list. I took them off because I just don't like U2. I'm sorry. I know my good friend Tim, you love the Joshua Tree. You didn't like a lot of the music after that. I hated the fact that every time that you got a, what was that, the little iPad shuffle, or what was it called? Not the iPhone, not the iPad. The listening device. Oh my God. Have another gummy Orbeez. Okay, well, let's just start off here. I wanted to make sure I had at least one person who was firmly in the 50s, because a lot of the other artists are from the 60s and 70s. And also, do I think this is the most commercial viable of all of them? No, because I'm actually going to go in order of who I think is the most commercially viable. Now, I implore you, chill with me on the sound. Draco Franchi's asleep about five feet away. Hayden's at the other side of the house. So I'm trying to keep it quiet, but also I'm going to be watching my levels. Hopefully it's going to be good. I actually think number 10 on this list for me would be Buddy Holly. Now, I know Buddy Holly went down in an airplane at the peak of his popularity. He would have gone on to have maybe five, six, seven more incredible albums. Probably, you know, I think the Big Bop. Big Bopper, Big Bop, he was on there as well. Richie Valens, okay. La la bamba, la la bamba. Sorry, Richie Valens. You didn't make the top 10 bands before 1980, before Orby was born. that need a pinball machine. So, of course, you're not going to see, like, the Rolling Stones on here. You're not going to see the Beatles, okay, because obviously they already have their own pinball machines. So let's talk about, and do I think that this next person I'm going to mention, do I think Stern is necessarily the best person to do this one? No. Maybe the top five would be good for Stern. Yeah, looking at this like the top five. Everybody else feeding frenzy, if you're listening to this, if you're American Pinball, if you're spooky. Are you listening, David Fix? set down the mustache wax and take a little listen buddy stop brushing out your beautiful hat it is a gorgeous hat by the way and take a little listen here because y'all every theme on here is better than barbecue every theme on here I dare say is better than Legends of Valhalla even though you might not get Jeff Teolis' golden voice there and boy there has been some drama the final round is back which I'm very happy about even though I think they called it the consultation round, consideration round.

  • “if I were actually marketing at one of these pinball companies, I would cross-reference this list with who's easy to work with”

    Orbital Albert (Orby) @ Top 3 analysis segment — Reveals licensing and IP negotiation as practical constraint on machine selection beyond band popularity

    • American Pinball
    company
    Spooky Pinballcompany
    Jersey Jack Pinballcompany
    Chicago Gaming Companycompany
    David Fixperson
    Drop Target Danielleperson
    Rushgame
    Wizard of Ozgame
    Elton Johngame
    Haggis Pinballcompany
    Poor Man's Pinball Networkorganization
    Christopher Franchi (Draco Franchi)person
    Retro Ralphperson
    Mike Dimasperson
    Pinball Expoevent
    X-Men 49game
    Flippin's Arcadeorganization

    medium · Orby discussing commercial viability of top bands in context of Stern vs boutique manufacturer capability for licensing: 'now that we're into the top five, I think all of these bands could go to a Jersey Jack or maybe even Stern'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Ray Day assigned to enhance Metallica code for Remastered version; continues pattern of Ray Day as code specialist at Stern

    high · Orby: 'It's awesome that Ray Day is working on the code where I'm excited for Metallica Remastered'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern pricing strategy has held steady for couple years; concern raised about secondary market impact on existing LE/Premium Metallica owners due to Remastered release

    high · Orby: 'Stern has not raised their prices in a couple years now' and 'I'm not excited for the prices of the people who have the old LEs and even the old premiums and pros'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Metallica Remastered in development with Ray Day enhancing Lyman Sheets' original code; John Borg's original machine being revised

    high · Orby: 'Ray Day is working on the code where I'm excited for Metallica Remastered...They don't tread on any of the awesome code by Lyman F. Sheets. They just enhance it and make it better'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Orby recovering from personal loss (Drew's death) and related health/weight issues; impacts content creation schedule and live event participation

    high · Orby: 'I ballooned up to 242 pounds...part of that reason is I ballooned up to 242 pounds...that's why we're in...you haven't posted any videos that show more than your face'

    • 4:51
    I don't remember. But Ryan C. is back, which is great. I did think they would kind of, I expected maybe Jeff would talk about Haggis in more of a like, geez, I thought he would be a little bit more apologetic, but I think he did okay. I understand where Jeff is coming from, that you don't want to be blaming Marty and vice versa, but this is supposed to be a top 10 list. I might deep dive into that later. Right now, I don't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole. I probably shouldn't have even brought it up. But you know me. I go off topic. All right. Number 10 on the list of the rock and roll bands that I think still deserve a pinball machine but have never got one is Buddy, Holly, and the Crickets. So here it is. That'll Be the Day, live from the Ed Sullivan Show. That'll Be the Day. You make it fire. That'll Be the Day. You make me cry. You make it gonna rain. Okay, let's turn this up a little. Come on, it's rock and roll.
    6:05
    That a die. Wait, didn't he go on to die after that? Okay, now that is his big hit, but what I'm going to do here is play their big hit. Then a couple seconds, a few seconds of my favorite song by them. And this by far is my favorite Buddy Holly song. I'm sorry this one isn't the most rock and roll, but it's called Every Day. And you know, this one's a bopper of all boppers.
    6:29
    Every day it's getting closer, going faster than a roller coaster. Love like yours will soon become my way. Hey, hey, hey, hey, every day Oh my God, just to think like love maybe never came his way because he died before he met her. That's why I'm so lucky to have Drop Target Danielle in my life. My mental health is doing better, which means my relationship is doing better. And although I really, really missed Expo, and every day I look at pictures and videos of Expo, I know even Retro Ralph said this Saturday he's got his big banger video coming out. I'm excited for that. I did watch Rachel and Kale from The Electric Bat were on there with Jamie from Wormhole, and he did a live kind of just recording impromptu kind of podcast. That was great. Go check that out if you haven't. I love hearing all the content that's coming out from Expo. It's all been great. In fact, the person I kind of wanted to invite on here from Expo, Glenn, the skateboarder, unfortunately has COVID and is just rushing, trying to deal with COVID and get back into the swing of family. and I've talked about this when you come back from a trip. Everything's chaotic. We'll have him on in the future to talk about Expo and all the things that happened there. Hopefully, maybe we'll see. I don't know.
    7:46
    But I know I want speedy recovery to Glenn. I know him and the whole SAW team there had a great time. So shout out to them and shout out to all the poor man's team. Will we finally get the Drew and Ian show number two and hear all about Expo and all the escapades and all the new tribe members added and all the shenanigans and shenaniganders that party there? I hope so. I hope that's coming soon. But for now, that you heard Buddy Holly number 10. Let's get on to number 9. And I promise you, don't turn it off yet. Don't turn it off yet. I will not play that one song by The Who you don't want to hear.
    8:23
    But I will play Bubba O'Reilly. Let's get it, baby. Yee-hoo! This song takes a while to start. Sorry, dudes. And dudettes.
    8:48
    I'm gonna fast forward it. All right. There's so much buildup, and I'm glad I waited for that one note, but, like, it took a long time. Now, that's one of their big hits besides Pinball Wizard. Now, if you were going to do a Who pinball machine, it's very implorative that you don't... Wait, is that even a word, implorative? I implore you to not put Pinball Wizard until the very, very, very final wizard mode that it's rarely ever played. please do not put pinball wizard in the attract mode please do not put pinball wizard in like the easiest multiball to get into because us pinball nerds don't want to be hearing that song all the time what we want to be hearing all the time is teenage wasteland
    10:04
    Wait for it All right. You guys can hear the vocals in your head. I know you can. I do apologize if any commercials pop up at any point when you have 20 windows open at once. It is mildly, if not slightly, harder to make sure that they all stay pre-filled. And that's what's happening to me currently. But it looks like I've got back on track. So, please, again, I don't think we already had Tommy, right? So we've already heard the Pinball Wizard song in the Tommy game. But I would love to see, like, Spooky could do the Who. American Pinball, come on. Are you listening, CGC? you know I think it would level up like be up there with like Pulp Fiction or something like that it's not a A tier but it's a solid B tier now this next one on the list I didn't add them just because Orbeez and Extra are a little bit kinky no I added them because the music is incredible and yeah you know I know there is other bands slightly more commercial than this but these guys didn't just have two three four five bangers they had like 20 in fact I almost think, well, two of their albums, there's not even a bad song on anything. But anyways, this is The Kinks. This is probably one of the older bands on here. There's a lot of the bands I noticed. You know, we're not up to The Hives and The Strokes, but there's a lot of the bands on here as well. So let's kick it off with number eight on the list, The Kinks, All Day and All Night, baby.
    12:19
    I actually think before a time where you had social media and doom scrolling, people, they were intimate a lot more often. Like, maybe not all of the day and all of the night, but I think you were just like, well, there's no Twitter, there's no Instagram, there's no YouTube, there's no Netflix, there's no Disney Plus, there's no Amazon, there's no online shopping, and you're like, I'm bored, it's afternoon delight, let's go, I don't know, I think that's what the kinks were going for there, I could be wrong, let's try to keep it PG, Orbeez, let's keep going, and really, my favorite song by them, that was their big hit, but this is my favorite song by them, and honestly, this one has a little kinky twist to it as well. You Really Got Me.
    13:44
    Whoa, okay, the build-up. Now you're going to want to go listen to The Kinks yourself after hearing some of this. The next The Band for three in a row from The Who, The Kinks. And the next one is Sheena. Who's Sheena? Sheena's my girl, and she's also just like me, a punk rocker.
    14:09
    One, two, three, four. Oh, let's turn that up. Come on, Ramones. Well, it is now all my good and ready to go. They ready to go now The guy ready to go He going to the disco take the door But she just couldn stand Okay, all right, sorry. No singing. Wait, no one bought X-Men 49, the origin story of the beast. Come on, no one bought it. If someone bought it, they wouldn't have to listen to me sing during these bops. It's on you. Y'all didn't buy it. The price is up to 420. I'm going to do a 72-hour sale. What is today, the 24th? Till the 27th, till three days before sale Halloween. You get the opportunity. I'm taking off $100 Canadian. That works out to $75 American. So it drops from 300 American to 225 American. It drops from $4.20 Canadian to $3.20 Canadian. Hit me up, Albert Agar on Facebook, or you could email me at angryalpacatea at gmail.com and let me know if you would like to buy this. In fact, I'm being so generous, this Saturday I'm heading up to Flippin's Arcade in Fredericton, and if you're listening anywhere on the East Coast right now, please make sure you join me. Dylan's brand new arcade, it has several of my old machines, including shout out to Mike Dimas there. Actually, he did give me a shout out on a recent show. Probably owed you one. Mike Dimas from Pinball Shenanigans.
    15:52
    He was checking out a really cool skateboard collection. Honestly, one of the coolest ones I've ever seen. Like, literally had one of old Tony Hawk's old skateboards he actually used in competition that he had lost. But I've gone off topic. Cheers and shout out to the Pinball Shenanigander himself, Mr. Mike Dimas.
    16:10
    Let's get on to beat... I mean, it really... Skateboard Tour really matches with the Ramones. my favorite song by them by far how have we not had a Ramones pinball machine by now from what I understand they even played pinball isn't there all these pictures with them isn't the place beside CBGB is like a cool pinball bar so come on man let's get a Ramones pin by now I even got to go see the remains of the Ramones after Joey had passed Dee Dee was still there and I got to see them at Call the Office legendary punk rock bar in London, Ontario wow what have I might have even seen them twice and then like after Dee Dee died again the remains of the remains of the Ramones or something but anyways let's listen to a little bit of beat on the brat with the baseball bat oh yeah beat on the brat with the baseball bat oh yeah oh To be fair, doing this podcast without being able to sing at least a little bit would nearly kill me. So it's actually good that no one's bought it. But yeah, 72-hour sale. This Saturday, I'm going to Flippin's Arcade, but I'm going to be the DD. Drop Target Danielle is staying home with Elowen and Franchi. Obviously, you can't bring them to the pinball tournament. If you live anywhere in and around Fredericton, make sure you go. but if someone buys my X-Men 49 between now and this Saturday, I will offer to buy everybody at the pinball tournament a free drink, alcoholic or not. It doesn't have to be alcoholic. I can still buy you a pop. I want to do, I can't, I can't, I'm not going to drink drive as a former driving instructor and as a father and everything else. I'm not going to drink drive. I might have like a beer when I get there or something, but I'm not going to drink drive. I mean, it's probably a six hour tournament. So I have to drive for like three hours there and three hours back. So even if it was a three-minute drive, I implore you not to drink drive. I've got to stop using that word today. I don't know where that came from. But I will gladly not talk about politics right now, and that's why I'm so excited to be bringing you this. It's like for someone like myself, I tell my children to avoid all conversations on politics and religion, like the plague, like COVID's back, and you've got to put on that air filter, man, like just avoid it. And right now, when you're trying to look through social media and see nothing about U.S. or Canadian politics, oh my God. It's just like you've got to be a ninja. Like inner ninja. And you've got to, you've got to like, just anyways. If politics or political talk is driving you nuts, just avoid it. Go to Netflix or go somewhere else where it doesn't exist. Or come here and listen to the Pinball Nerds podcast where hopefully I'll never, ever, ever talk about politics again. And I'm trying not to. So let's get back to it. But there you go. the Ramones, why do they not have a frickin' like, seriously, why do they not have a frickin' pinball machine by now? Now, this next person needs no introduction. I know what you're thinking. Whoa, whoa, whoa. This isn't a band. It's just a person. Incorrect. Their band is called The Experience. You might have heard of them.
    19:15
    The Jimmy Hendrix Experience. Thank you. What a guitarist. I want to take you home. I won't do you no harm. Man. Who, when you hear that, do you not think of Wayne's World? Come on. Mike Myers, Dana Carvey.
    20:40
    Foxy. All right. So, you know, that song I kind of played just for like a little bit of nostalgia for being a Canadian dude who grew up not that far away from where Mike Myers grew up, outside of Toronto. you know I had to throw that in there but also really song wise all along the watchtower kind of kills it imagine a pinball machine featuring Jimi Hendrix not only would the artwork be like psychedelic and fun but Jimi Hendrix has gone down as being one of the most maybe not like the best guitarist of all time but certainly one of the most innovative guitarists of all time and that being said Bob Dylan could have made this list Bob Dylan probably could have took the kink spot okay probably could have took number nine number ten okay I don't know if anyone wants like a rolling stone like a rolling multi-ball maybe but uh the point is this song all along the watchtower was originally written by Bob Dylan and then Jimi Hendrix really made it his own and now it's more so known of course as a Jimi Hendrix song than even a Bob Dylan song that being said let's hear just a little bit of what Jimi Hendrix does with this listen to the guitar at the start of this incredible.
    22:18
    I can't get no relief Businessmen there To drink my wine Come and take my earth No more levels on the mind Nobody up in this world Oh my God, I could have just listened to that whole song. But for you guys, I'm not going to. I'm just not going to do that. Let's hop on to number five on the list, The Cure. Now, this band I could have had higher. Personally, I might have had one or two higher. But that being said, commercially, I think this is, now that we're into the top five, I think all of these bands could go to a Jersey Jack or maybe even Stern. Look, is it going to be one of their main cornerstones? I mean, they did let Zeppelin, and arguably most of the bands on this list are, I would say left as big as Led Zeppelin. So now we're not going to talk about necessarily how Led Zeppelin worked out or didn't work out. But what I can tell you is the cure, getting a pinball machine by them, would be almost just like heaven.
    23:45
    Oh, bring the synth, baby. Show me, show me, show me how you do that trick The woman makes me scream, she says The woman makes me laugh, she says Through her arms around my neck I'm realizing now that I'm playing these songs in full. A lot of these songs are very sexual in nature. Show me, show me, show me how you do that trick, the one that makes she scream. Okay, it made me scream. Okay, wow, okay. Anyways, Rock the Casbah, I don't think has any type of meaning past just getting loaded and partying with your friends, but I'm probably wrong, and I will say this as a Bill Murray fan, Rock the Casbah was like his worst movie ever. I hope you just got a big paycheck. I hope you enjoy that bag. Keep those diamond hands, Bill Murray, and enjoy them. Here's the Clash is my favorite. Think about it right now. Could you guys not see the the we don't have Arguably, I understand some people saying oh the Clash were big in the 80s I get that but they started in the 70s, right? So I'm kind of squishing them in there They could have gone either way. They were probably bigger in the 80s and they were in the 70s I could be wrong. Wait, should I be asking Google? Okay, I'm gonna start Rock the Kazbar and I'm gonna well Then this song will pause I could be wrong if I'm wrong y'all tell me and I'm sorry. I apologize then I'm wrong
    25:43
    Sorry. Here it comes. Get ready for it. I hope wherever you are, whether you're in the shower, you're at your office desk, you're driving, you're at work, you're driving on the way to work, or you drive for a living, You're just chilling at home. You're hanging out with your friends, your family, your dog. You're cutting the lawn. Who knows? Whatever you're doing, I hope that you were singing along there. Because what a singable song! Now, this next song, y'all thought you would get through this list without one Canadian band? Come on! Now, I know now this gentleman identifies himself as just Neil Young. but back in the day he had a full band, a full outfit that he traveled with for years. I apologize, Neil Young's band. I forget what you were called. But he did travel with a whole band. And, wow, if you've never seen Old Man, go to YouTube. Not right now. Finish watching this and do it after, meow. But you've got to go watch Neil Young do Old Man with Jimmy Fallon. I'm not even a huge Jimmy Fallon fan. I think sometimes he's a little bit too much of a ass kisser, a little bit too much of a butt, whatever. You know, we are here on the Poor Men's Pinball Network, so we like buttholes a little bit, I guess. We're more into Starfish than the average pinball nerd, I would say. However, nah, nah, nah, nah. I don't love this dude. But what I do love is he is a very good musician as well. And Jimmy Fallon dresses up like Neil Young, and they do Old Man together. the start, you think maybe just for a second that it actually is Neil Young singing it because if nothing else, Jimmy Fallon is good at copycatting and doing covers of other musicians. But here is the Canadian, the one, the only, the Neil of Youngest.
    28:24
    Thank you. Holy cow. The volumes are different in every video. I'm so sorry, guys. This is a new song I wrote about my ranch. I live on a ranch in California.
    28:36
    You live on a ranch in California? I was spotted a while ago from... Traitor. These two lawyers. And there was an old man living on it I don know if you have things like that here Like foreman on ranches He like an old caretaker Okay He's like an old house. Come on with the preamble. What is this, a Pimble Nerds podcast? That's what I wrote this song for.
    29:04
    Oh, God. Listen to the finger picking in the guitar. Old man, look at my life, I'm a lot like you were
    29:45
    Oh man, look at my life 24 and there's so much more Live alone in a paradise That makes me think of two Oh my god, I got chills. Did y'all get chills? I got chills there. It was the first song before I got chills. I was like, this guy, like his voice is so unique. Maybe not quite as unique as Gore Downey's from the Tragically Hip, but wow, so good. I was dating this girl a long, long, long time ago. She doesn't even deserve a shout-out, Rach. You don't get a shout-out on here. However, we were driving to Toronto, and I was sitting in, like, not quite the trunk, but the back, back part of the SUV where, like, you'd throw all the stuff for the trunk because there was no room left in the car, and her parents didn't really like me anyways. So basically, yeah, Orby was in the trunk, and we were playing Name That Tune with the whole family, and this song came on and it was around Christmas time. You know those Heart of Gold?
    30:47
    There was these chocolates called Pot of Gold. So I said, oh, it's Pot of Gold by Neil Young and they made fun of me forever. Like the last year and a half after. This is the only other person I was engaged to before Drop Target, Danielle. Tim Lee, you said I do a girlfriend reference, an ex-girlfriend reference on every Pinball Podcast and it's absolutely your favorite. So Tim the Lion Man Lee, this reference is for you. Here is Pot of Gold by Neil Young.
    31:16
    Pot of gold They are my favorite chocolates at Christmas time I like to sit in her trunk Wait, that sounded bad. I take that back. That sounded bad.
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    I wanna live, I wanna kill I've been a miner for a while now It's these expressions I never give Keep me searching for a heart of gold And I'm getting old Now wait, I know what y'all are thinking. Orby! Both those songs were very, very, very slow. You know, there's no way he can do it. Remember, Neil Young had a bit of a comeback with Pearl Jam and did the song Mirrorball. Or wait, yes. and then he also did downtown oh my god i knew i knew there would be one commercial for l'oreal come on um so anyways the song downtown is actually quite a bit faster y'all probably remember that song um what what was pearl jam in that whole album like am i drunk did i have just one too many cbd gummies what's going on uh anyways you guys there is some faster neil young songs but Yes, it would be on the slower side, but I still think it could be done incredibly. Look at the Wizard of Oz. The Wizard of Oz is a beautiful machine. Arguably not their prettiest, but definitely has the most mechs and toys. And it isn't, again, not the best shooter, because the prettiest and the best shooter would be Elton John. But every other award I would give to, that's right, the one and the only Wizard of Oz. Wizard of Oz didn't have any fast-paced, like, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Okay, maybe the song with the frickin' monkeys. I don't know. Anyways, here is Mirrorball by Neil Young. Or sorry, this is Downtown.
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    Okay, anyways, the point, I don't necessarily love that song. The point is there is some up-based, faster-beated songs. So keep that in mind. But Neil Young just, oh my God, like as a Canadian, I think it would be incredible. But it wouldn't be as commercially viable. The marketing man in me, the gentleman who went to Fanshawe College and got my degree in marketing would say, you know that from a financial perspective, these top three are where would be, I think you could get some gold, especially if the machine was as cool as Rush. I've heard people say all the time they don't really love the band Rush, but they absolutely love what Ray Day did with the code. And that's part of the reason why people are so excited to get their hand on John Borg's masterpiece, Metallica, and the remastered. They don't tread on any of the awesome code by Lyman F. Sheets. They just enhance it and make it better. So that's why we're all so excited to play it. But before we get a fourth Metallica pinball machine, Would it be great to get a first Fleetwood Mac one? Especially, you know, Orby, I like to go my own way.
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    Oh, and I know that there's not a lot of women in here. I thought about adding like a Janis Joplin. I definitely could have, but at least... Wait, it's not Stevie Nicks. Stevie Nicks could have been there. Who's the lead singer? Who's the co-lead singer of Fleetwood Mac? The point is, there's a female lead, at least in one of these bands, and I do apologize. There could have been, there is more female-fronted, you know, rock bands more so in the 80s and 90s that I could find. But, like, pre-1980, there wasn't a ton. So, none of them made the list this time except for Fleetwood Mac, including my favorite song by them, Dreams. Now, the song does take a while to get going, so I might fast-forward a little bit. But can you imagine how incredible just even the visuals from the psychedelic artwork they used on their album covers? And here's the thing is, if I were actually marketing at one of these pinball companies, I would cross-reference this list with who's easy to work with. Like, you know, the who. Maybe the who are really difficult to work with, but, you know, the cure are really easy to work with. So you'd look at that. And then who costs less? So it's not just money, but who's easier to work with? Who are you going to get all the good songs from? Who are you going to get, you know, cool concert footage from? Who are you going to get the rights to not draw them like the people did on Rush? No, I'm just kidding. But come on, I had to do, I'm sorry, Ray Day. I had to do one Rush, I had to do one Rush dig. Just because, you know, they are working the middle, you know, a little here and there, a little here and there. But, oh no, I'm going to get in trouble. Let's just play some Dreams. and remember if you ever want to get better at pinball the one way you can do that the one way you can do that without even having to go anywhere or spend a penny is learn how to lucid dream and start playing pinball in your lucid dreams and practicing them it helped me win the new brunswick pinball championship possibly maybe who knows i can't prove it because i can't go back and not dream but for a guy who had like no pinball or one pinball machine in his house at that point and now has none and still managed to win my last, I think I've won two out of my last three big, like, local tournaments anyways. So that's pretty awesome. That's pretty cool. Hopefully I can do three Pete for the year and get three Ws out of four here in New Brunswick. That would be awesome. I don't think that's going to happen. Dylan and all the Fredericton pinball nerds there know their machines way better. We only have two bands left, but I do want to tell you guys, I will tell you this. I was going to tease this at the start. Part of the real reason why I wasn't in that much of a rush to actually get my passport. Even though I was, like, I wanted to go to Expo really bad, but part of the reason was because I was so embarrassed after my buddy Drew passed away, which I talked about a couple shows ago. Not only did I stop doing interviews in August when I found out about that, but I also took quite a long time to kind of recover. And during that time, I'm using this partially as an excuse. It's probably partially true, probably partially confused. In the summertime, I also party like a bit of a rock star. I don't worry as much about my health and my weight. And I gained a lot of weight. So for those of you who thought, well, we haven't seen Orby in a lot of live streams recently, and you haven't posted any videos that show more than your face, part of that reason is I ballooned up to 242 pounds. I was almost pushing 250. This is for a guy I normally sit at 220. After the whole Drew sitch, I ballooned up to, if you remember the breakdancing video, one with the Olympics in July, when I posted that, I was probably around 225, 230. I ballooned up to 242 pounds. I couldn't even look at myself sideways in the mirror. My therapist kept saying, you've got to be your best friend. How do you be your best friend when all you see is Fat Albert? Hey, hey, hey, Fat Albert.
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    Anyways, the thing is, though, I tell everybody else to stop fat shaming and don't be reading mean in the comments. And if someone looks a bit different, we don't need to comment on it. I draw the line at not saying haircuts. I got in trouble one time in the chat. I think Tim Sexton actually had just got a new haircut and it was one of the Stern reveals. I don't think it was Ahmad or I don't think it was anyone there. It was someone in chat being a super Karen. But like Tim Sexton got a new haircut and I was like, dude, I love your new haircut. And someone in chat was like, please do not discuss or talk about how the people in the video look. And I was like, go eat a bag of something. See, you can't even say that anymore. Go eat a bag of probiotics because your gut lining needs to get more positives there you negative Nancy you Debbie Downer in chat it's just like that girl that freaked out of me in the chat when they were playing the Beatles at the UK Open and I just said oh or no they were playing they were playing the Munsters black and white I said man I love Franchi art it's so cool to hear he's going to be exclusively at Spooky Now go Franchi and she said go Franchi and then she went on this long list like she had done her master's thesis in art of why Franchi's a horrible I think the term she used was a horrible or terrible no wait that might have been a different pinball podcaster saying zombie yeti's artwork was terrible but it's like zombie yeti and christopher franchi's artwork is not horrible it's the best we got can we just enjoy it and maybe you don't like franchi's artwork but me in chat just saying go franchi I like your artwork that doesn't that doesn't mean you need to go on a tirade explaining to me oh he's just a tracer oh he doesn't actually draw it oh he can't really do shading oh he doesn't understand color theory she went on this frickin and and then finally I felt back for bad I felt bad for backhand pinball they were like can you take this to the dms guys I'm only talking about pinball I'm like I was talking about pinball I said I love this pinball machine and my favorite part is the artwork by Christopher Franchi she went on a lecture about working and and mentioned something like her name was Brooklyn something anyways not trying to call her out uh but it was like dude yo if I'm just don't what do they say don't sour my lemons don't don't don't chill my vibe do whatever it is they say just don't be that person if someone writes Keith Elwin's my favorite pinball designer or someone writes oh I love avatar you know you don't have to immediately just be like no I hate it name everything you hate about avatar that's why I always try to do five rad and one bad I mean there's been a couple times it's been hard to do but let's just get back into it I'm getting back into shape. I saw 222 pounds, 222.2 this morning on the scales, which for me is like, I'm getting back to that the whole time I, you know, and honestly, I probably would have got down to a decent weight. It's just the problem was like before I went to Expo, I don't want to show up at Expo being like not the best version of myself meeting all these people for the first time. I want to show up and feel really good and be confident about myself. So again, this isn't fat shaming this is just to say part of the reason why I wasn't in a huge hurry back when I needed to be in September getting this the information in for my passport was because I was feeling really bad about myself going well I don't want to show up being 250 pounds not being able to fit into any of my t like I couldn't fit into my poor man's t-shirt I couldn't fit into my Don's pinball podcast t-shirt that he sent me thank you Don I couldn't fit into like any of my pants like I was I had to wear like jogging pants seriously like you saw me wearing the jogging pants doing that dancing thing. That's why I even had known they were there because I had to wear them because even my 38, my 38 size waist wouldn't, you know, anyways, we all go through stuff, whether or not it's you have a drew in your life or you have another situation where something shitty happened and you gained some weight. Don't fat shame yourself, be your best friend, but also you can be a little bit critical and say hey I want to be a healthier version of myself but try not to use the F word for God sake I think it worse than saying the other F word to be honest if I had to be honest Let get back into it Number three on the list, as I mentioned, is Fleetwood Mac. Let's do some lucid dreaming and hear a little bit more of that.
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    When you say you want your freedom Well, who am I to keep you down? We saw the way that you should play the way you feel Listen carefully to the sound of the fallen leaves by the heart of a glass man. Still as I'm remembering what you had and what you are.
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    Sing it, girl! All right, there we go. She was killing it. Listen to those vocals. Like, come on. No, she had like none of the stuff we have nowadays to correct the vocals there. That was such a gorgeous song. It left me, honestly, it gave me so many chills I was a little bit comfortably numb. All right. So there you go. I know a lot of people want Pink Floyd to be number one. I see it. I hear it back when I used to go on Pinside. I would see people say Pink Floyd all the time. Pink Floyd might be very, very, very hard to work with. They could be like their estate or whoever's left from the band could be challenging to get those rights. You don't see or hear a lot of stuff about Pink Floyd. That could be part of the reason why. I don't think it'd be as hard to get as a license or as expensive as the Beatles. But I think it would be very hard and very expensive. So maybe that's why we don't hear about it. And I know most people wanted Pink Floyd to be number one. but I'm sorry Pink Floyd visually would be number one on the list is there anything more trippy even the cover of the wall I'm looking at the VHS right now the cover of the wall with the band inside the mouth screaming and no I'm not going to play all of the wall because it's just way too long and I do like that oh shout out to my best friend or I guess tied for my best friend, Eric, my good buddy there. We used to call him the G-Man, but we now call him just Eric. And I respect him because I love him. My buddy Eric actually was in a band called Cat Ass Trophy or Catastrophe. Damn it, I was trying not to swear in this episode. But Catastrophe, also known as the first way I said it. and they got up and they did Schools Out Forever, right? Schools out for summer. They went up and they sang that with a whole bunch of the teachers that came up. I think that's Pink Floyd. That's Pink Floyd, right? Oh, no. If it's not Pink Floyd, I'm in a lot of trouble. Oh, well, I have no way to check my email. Franchi stepped on my computer and ruined it. But what is my favorite song? My favorite song is probably what all of you at Expo were thinking. You were, I hope, at least one or two of you were thinking, I wish Orby were here.
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    Okay, lots of build-up. So much build-up. Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts? Hot eyes for trees, hot air for a cold breeze Cold colors for chains, did you exchange? Walk on by the wall Leave home with a cage The picture of all the girls by the pool that was being shown in that video with all the different Pink Floyd albums in the background. Wow! Wasn't there a homebrew of Pink Floyd that was really cool at some point? And I do apologize. I did not even have time my last episode. I've been trying really hard to stay under an hour. Respect your time. Respect my time. Make sure Draco doesn't have to be going for more than a one-hour nap in the morning or Franchi over there. She's completely passed out. Draco's starting to stir. Mr. Draco Franchi. Elwynn's still passed out over there. Draco Franchi's starting to stir. I've got to move quickly. I've got to go. So that being said, I love you all. Number one, this is actually live from the Royal Albert Hall. This is, yes, it was my stepdad's favorite band, and therefore kind of a little bit of Orby bias here. But how could there not be some bias? I would love, and it's not just because I went on to love John Fogerty, and I know there was some beef there between CCR and John Fogerty. And we know, we know how much Franchi loves, Christopher Franchi himself loves baseball-isms, you know, when we're talking about center field and getting a home run and knocking it out of the park. I think this song knocks it out of the park. This is Fortunate Son, my favorite song, actually, by CCR. And there is like 30 or 40 bangers with this band. Like, you'd probably, if you typed CCR best hits, Credence Clearwater Revival best hits, there's probably 20 songs in there you don't even remember loving by these guys. And if you don't like CCR and I made them number one, tell me all about it when I see you next, because I can't access my email right now. Anyways, here is CCR's Fortunate Son.
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    A fourth of all made forever black Ooh, that red, white, and blue And when the man plays hay with the sheep Ooh, the boy's a candidate, sure And me, and me I ain't no senator's son And me, and me I ain't no fortune teller Talk about living in a fortunate time. Now, I didn't play Bad Moon Rising. I didn't. It's my show. If I really wanted to play Born on the Bayou, I probably could. Hopefully there's not a commercial here, but there probably is. I paused the commercial just on time to save your ears, folks. All right. I got to play a little bit of Born on the Bayou because there was never a band like this that was a little bit. Born on the Bayou, of course, is supposed to be like have some southern. Like it's almost got a little bit of jazz influence, a tiny bit of like it definitely has lots of rock. like you can almost hear the Beatles, but then you can hear like some southern twang, a little bit of country. We've never had like, since Dolly Parton, we've never had a country. So this would be close to rock and country kind of mixing together. Let's listen to just a couple seconds of Born on the Bayou. Come on, because that way you can be born on the bayou.
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    I don't think that's how that part goes for the record. Goddamn. I went out with just that little boy Standing through my daddy's knee My papa said, son, don't let the man get you Do what he done to me Don't forget you Get you Don't forget you now And I can remember the ball But truly Running through the backwoods
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    Holy cow, this song takes a while to get. There you go. He was born on the bayou at least once. Now, while I was growing up, I was a skateboarder who had my 8mm video camera in my hand at all times.
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    I had a couple different groups of friends who would go out skateboarding, and they would call me because I would be the guy. Yes, I might have been getting drunk. I might have been enjoying a little bit of the devil's lettuce, but I was also skateboarding. And I was recording it. And you know what? I wasn't that great at skateboarding, but I was really damn good at running a fisheye lens on an 8mm, well skateboarding, well going low, well, you know, I was good enough to ollie up a curb while recording. And I had hours and hours and hours of video. And shortly after I stopped skateboarding from injuring myself too bad, even, of course, BMXing, you guys know I broke my arm into 14 spots, arguably 15 in a green line break. break and then I've broken many other bones skateboarding so I kind of gave up skateboarding but I really wanted to do an environmental doc back when I talked more about politics and stuff like that yes I was a hardcore uh I don't know before there was hipsters I guess there was like what do they call well hippie hippie Jake Danzig there you go not a dirty smelly hippie I was a very very clean hippie thank you very much but I had this big passion for the environment and I wanted to do a mini dock right as my son Hayden was born 19 years ago coming up on 20 years ago actually while my wife dropped pregnant was pregnant 20 years ago right now I was working for GM locomotive yes General Motors they actually do build trains not just cars and I was working in the warehouse there and I had the idea I had the I had written out like a storyline for the dock about the environment what we could do to help out and at the time acid rain was kind of still a thing or at least we were just getting over it so I had it in my head that at the end of it I always wanted to play who will stop the rain so until next time pinball nerds this is I you know this is 20 years later I never got to do the doc about the environment but I do get to finish my humble little pinball podcast here oh and thank you for everyone to listen to the last episode go listen to it if you haven't I saw it's already very close to 300 listens which for me nowadays since my stern Meltdown is actually pretty good if in the first few days it gets 300. But go back and listen to that one. I think I do a great job explaining the 10 biggest surprises that I saw happen at Pinball Expo. I also count down the top five rad and one bad of Metallica Remastered. If you didn't go to Expo and you don't want to hear about it, you can just fast forward to the part where I talk about that. And if maybe you listened to the Expo part, but you haven't listened to the Metallica Remastered, go back and listen to it. That's a great thing is I try to make these things evergreen, even though it's near impossible to. I've been trying to make this closer into a pinball podcast and less of like just an audio blog. And I think I'm doing okay with it, even though the sound quality today was probably meh. So I'm working on a new solution for a microphone. Might even be asking Santa for a newer one, a better one for Christmas, which would help my ears, which would help your ears, which might actually help me get more listens. and in lieu of you know asking for any donations since July at my birthday and in lieu of asking for any angry alpaca coffee or tea cells which I haven't asked for for probably even longer five or six months I will ask that you can spread the word if you had a good time you enjoyed today's show fire off someone a link give me a review on one of the platforms tell everybody be like Orby's back baby Orby's back alright until next time pinball nerds remember to eat sleep and breathe who will stop the acid rain.
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    on the ground. I couldn't live through the angels, trying to find the sun. And I wonder, still I wonder, who stopped the rain? I'll wish the sun would come down,