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Batman ‘66 Pinball w/ Lyman Sheats and crew. Code V. 1.0!

Dead Flip·video·2h 20m·analyzed·Dec 6, 2018
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TL;DR

Lyman Sheets discusses Batman '66 v1.0 release and design philosophy on Stern factory stream.

Summary

Dead Flip streams live from Stern Pinball's factory floor with legendary code designer Lyman Sheets to showcase Batman '66 at version 1.0 release. The conversation covers game design philosophy, the interplay between major and minor villains, wizard modes, action button mechanics, code updates, and deep ruleset strategy. Sheets discusses the game's evolution through updates, hardware constraints, and design decisions around the TV channel-switching feature and multiball interactions.

Key Claims

  • Batman '66 is classified as a 'studio game' at Stern, meaning it didn't have a fixed production deadline like cornerstone games, allowing more development flexibility.

    high confidence · Lyman explains the distinction between studio games and scheduled cornerstone games; studio games are tied to licensing opportunities rather than production schedules.

  • Version 1.0 represents most of the features Lyman wanted in the game from the beginning, though more content is still planned.

    high confidence · Lyman states: 'there were a couple of things that needed teed off get out in a Rush update. Yeah so yeah it's pretty much all the features in the game are sort of pretty much what I wanted them teed off be a long time ago'

  • The major/minor villain system is designed to serve both casual and advanced players, with major villains providing straightforward objectives while minor villains enable deep strategic choice.

    high confidence · Lyman explains the design: major villains are front-of-playfield focus points, while minor villains allow players to 'choose-your-own-adventure' gameplay that changes each session.

  • Channel switching (holding action button to switch between modes) was not initially a design feature but emerged from experimentation with the action button.

    high confidence · Discussion of action button usage starting with Attack from Mars, evolving through different games, eventually leading to the gadget-based implementation in Batman '66.

  • Iron Man was made under significant time constraints (three months total) by Lyman and another designer, but Lyman still enjoys the variety it provides.

    high confidence · Jack states: 'Iron Man was an interesting game when Lyman and I worked on Iron Man, and we were three players, and I was like, okay, you guys get three months teed off make this game.'

  • Modern Spike hardware has essentially no storage or memory constraints, unlike older systems that limited game code and RAM.

    high confidence · Lyman: 'I don't think so i mean back in those damn days we were always sort of constrained by how much storage we had... and now it's, I don't know. I mean, outside of GPU, not really.'

Notable Quotes

  • “I mean, you kind of get, like, one chance teed off make a game. I mean, I guess, maybe, unless it's Star Wars or whatever, you can make three of them.”

    Lyman Sheets@ 6:59 — References Star Wars Pinball series as exceptional case where designer can iterate multiple times; illuminates typical single-game opportunity constraint for designers.

  • “my favorite part of the game is, like, I tell people if you're going teed off do what I do, I could start a major villain, and then I'm just working those TV villains all day teed off build... it's insane, like, how deep you can get into this if you want teed off get that deep.”

    Dead Flip host@ 9:07 — Demonstrates the game's depth and accessibility spectrum—casual players focus on major villains, advanced players discover complex minor villain stacking strategies.

  • “The channel changing is huge. Like, I just switched it over teed off the joker. and so now I can see like, oh, okay.”

    Dead Flip host@ 23:51 — Highlights the practical gameplay value of the action button channel-switching feature for managing overlapping multiball modes.

  • “So, if you hit the right flipper and hold it, there's Catwoman, okay? So, if you hit the left flipper, you get teed off change what episode for Catwoman will show up when you start that major villain.”

    Dead Flip host@ 28:10 — Reveals a hidden gameplay mechanic allowing players to customize major villain episode selection before starting, adding personalization layer.

  • “the logic for the, the logic for the, I was going to call it a cannon. Well, it is a cannon, actually. You know, it's basically the same as what was on Terminator 2.”

    Lyman Sheets@ 37:38 — References AC/DC (Premium) balance issue that required developer attention, implying unintended strategy exploits discovered in tournament play.

Entities

Lyman SheetspersonJack DangerpersonChristopher FranchipersonGeorge GomezpersonBatman '66gameStern PinballcompanyIron Mangame

Signals

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    business_signal: Metallica Premium Edition has maintained extended production run (approximately 2 years), indicating strong demand and extended lifecycle compared to typical game production windows.

    medium · Lyman mentions Pro/LE versions ended ~2 years prior, with Premium continuing; ongoing production still occurring at time of stream.

  • ?

    community_signal: Factory floor stream format brings together Stern designers (Lyman Sheets, Jack Danger, Christopher Franchi) and community members (Dead Flip host) for live gameplay and design discussion, demonstrating commitment to transparency and community education.

    high · Stream originates from Stern factory floor, unusual venue; participants discuss design decisions in real-time during gameplay; chat interaction enabled.

  • ?

    competitive_signal: AC/DC (Premium) exploit involving cannon mechanic (Bowen Kerins discovery) required balance adjustments, indicating tournament play surfacing unintended strategies that demand developer response.

    medium · End-of-stream reference to AC/DC balance issue discovered in tournament play requiring logic adjustments; Bowen Kerins mentioned as discoverer.

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Video file in Batman '66 contains aspect ratio processing error (black bars on left/right of single traffic clip) that developers acknowledge will be addressed in future updates, suggesting QA discovery and backlog management.

    medium · Lyman acknowledges video clip error: 'There's one video clip of traffic in front of a building that the video file has black bars...'; offers bug report process for community feedback.

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Transcript

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0:00
The Multi Ball Thank you. All right. Mic is hot. We're just not visible yet to the end. All right. They can hear us, they can't see us. I also grabbed some popcorn and behind the popcorn are adult sodas.
1:39
I'm just tweeting that we're going live. Internet what's going on? Good to see you, DataCell. We're actually streaming from the factory floor, which we have not done in quite some time.
1:58
All right, let me just tweet this and we're good. As soon as Twitter opens. There we go. Pins rule. What's up, dude?
2:19
Oh, we're upside down. That's not how that's supposed to be. All right. Much better. All right. Yo, what's going on, Internet? Can you hear us okay? You're going to be hearing a lot of hammering for like the next half an hour or something. But I'm here at Stern Pinball, and my good buddy Lyman Sheets is going to be joining us. You may be familiar with his work.
2:51
He's done a lot of great games, including the game we're going to be playing today, Batman 66, which is finally at 1.0. And you guys know from watching the show that I play the crap out of this game. And, like, I love it. It's freaking amazing. So we're just going to be having, like, a casual little hangout, playing some pinball. If you have any questions for Lyman, I'll try to read some to him from the chat room there. But it's just going to be him and I, maybe some Wanderers coming by. Who knows? But it should be good.

  • Metallica Premium Edition has had a long recent production run, with last Pro/LE versions shipping approximately two years prior to this stream.

    medium confidence · Lyman mentions the Batman '66 Premium Edition has been in production for roughly two years since the Pro/LE versions completed their run.

  • Three wizard modes exist in Batman '66, one for each TV season, selectable after completing villains from each season.

    high confidence · Lyman explains: 'There's one for each of these down here also. So if you finish up... Yeah, if you get all three seasons lit, and you shoot it back into the TV... you get teed off choose between three different... multiball wizard modes.'

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    design_philosophy: Batman '66 deliberately designed with tiered difficulty/engagement: major villains for casual/new players, minor villain stacking for competitive/advanced play. Accessibility-depth spectrum intentionally architected.

    high · Hosts and Lyman explain major villains as 'objective' for non-enthusiasts, minor villains enable 'choose-your-own-adventure' depth; major villains are visibly placed on playfield for easy discovery.

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    personnel_signal: Christopher Franchi (credited artist) has produced artwork for multiple recent Stern games with consistently praised results, suggesting key creative role in visual/aesthetic direction.

    medium · Hosts emphasize Franchi's consistent quality: 'Everything he's done for us. He's knocked it out of the park every single time.'

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    product_strategy: Batman '66 v1.0 represents culmination of iterative code updates addressing video clip aspect ratio issues, mechanical refinement, and feature completeness—suggesting post-launch improvement cycle.

    high · Lyman confirms v1.0 includes 'pretty much what I wanted' but acknowledges ongoing plans; discussion of fixing video file aspect ratio issues; mention of 'rush updates' prior to v1.0.

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    technology_signal: Modern Spike 2 hardware eliminates storage/memory constraints that plagued older systems, allowing designers near-unlimited creative latitude for code features and video content integration.

    high · Lyman: 'outside of GPU, not really' [constraints]. Discussion of older systems having 'limited RAM' and storage; contrast with current 'do whatever we want' design freedom.

    • 3:23
    The man Lyman. Thanks for the update. on Metallica just bought a premium. There you go. My man. That's right. The last run of Metallica's are also going on right now too. Got some Batmans over there they're building. Oh, there are some Batmans there. Man, look at that hole in the plate. I know. It's a big one. That is unreal. The gizmo that they put back there. When George pulled that out, it looks like a prop atomic bomb. It's like huge. Hammering tease nuts. Okay, guys, you don't have to be gross. It feels gross. The man-land hijacked. So, folks, get ready. I don't know how long we're going to stream. I was here for meetings, and we set this up to just sort of hang out. I am going to grab a drink, but, yeah, it'll be good. Start throwing some questions in chat so we can sort of have some bullets loaded before we pull the trigger on playing some games here.
    4:19
    Let me swing over here real quick. What's going on everybody? How you doing? Thanks a lot. No drinks. That's what Vinicore said. I'm cut off. Damn it, Mike. He cut me off before I even started. How dare he?
    4:39
    Well, they can't see. You can't hurt them. Yeah. Hi, Penny. Oh, crap. Penny's here. What's going on? Penny doesn't cut off, too. Hi, Lyman. You rock. I always get too nervous to say hi to you at Finberg.
    4:55
    No reason to be nervous. There you go. Unless we're playing El Toro. Or playing for dollars, then leave me the F alone.
    5:06
    Love you, Cheatsy Baby. Wow. You ever been called Cheatsy Baby before? I don't think so. No. I've been called a lot of things. Yeah, okay, fair enough. You've been called a lot of things. Yeah. Cheatsy Baby is not one of them. No? So, um, Batman 66, man. Wow, this glass is amazing. It honestly, I'm having trouble understanding that there's glass in here. Yeah, I, uh... Here, let me flip over the camera so you can see what we're looking at here, folks.
    5:34
    Yeah, I don't have glass on any of my games at home. Seriously. It's unreal. You can't tell, you can't see it. Nope.
    5:43
    Damn. Alright. So, Batman 66. 1.0 just came out I think this is like 1.00.1 or something like that yeah there were a couple of things that needed to get out in a rush yeah so yeah it's pretty much all the features in the game are sort of pretty much what I wanted them to be a long time ago there's still some more things that obviously I want to do and need to do but I mean as far as all of the mechanics of the gameplay major villains, minor villains and everything everything's in there pretty much what I wanted to do from the beginning a lot of stuff to go through I didn't have the benefit because it's a studio title, I didn't have the benefit of having a lot of support on the game working on it So, yeah.
    6:50
    Great. Yeah, you said you were just, like, combing through all these video clips. Yeah, there's a lot of material that we had.
    6:59
    You know, like, for me, you kind of get, like, one chance to make a game. I mean, I guess, maybe, unless it's Star Wars or whatever, you can make three of them. Yeah, so, but, you know, and I always want to use as much as I can. and games are different. You know, like on the one hand, you have a game like Iron Man where there isn't a lot of stuff in it. A little more intense, you know, start playing a game. And this one, you know, it's more of a, you know, longer playing with lots of content. So, yeah. No, dude, I absolutely love this game. And as code has been coming out, it like, the game, the game for me was good. But as new code revisions came out, it kept getting better and better and better. And what I really like about this game as we were having this discussion earlier, like the major villains, that's sort of like, you know, someone that isn't super into pinball, that's your objective, is like start that. It's not hard to do, and it's pretty self-explanatory what's going on, but as you get better, then you can start doing your sort of choose-your-own-adventure thing going here with your minor villains to create this sort of like concoction that changes your game every single time when you play it. Yeah, just as far as just the overall design, when, well, whatever, like the first six episodes of the show, we didn't get to Catwoman until like 19th episode, but, you know, it's like Riddler, Penguin, Joker, and most of the early season was focusing on, you know, those villains and just the overall design of it to focus on that where, you know, you look down and you see them on the play field and then all of the shots, like the main shots, features on the game, it's like, okay, there's Riddler, Catwoman, Penguin Joker, just to kind of make it not slightly understandable, but hopefully understandable. Yeah, and then the minor villains, if you get that far in the game, not being a casual player, a little more advanced player, then you can get into, you know, some of that. But some people don't even remember before or more. Yeah, that's fair. But that is, like, honestly my favorite part of the game is, like, I tell people if you're going to do what I do, I could start a major villain, and then I'm just working those TV villains all day to build, like, you know, make sure I have this villain with every ball, make sure I can replay field villains, then play a villain, but don't finish them so I can keep replaying them.
    9:30
    It's insane, like, how deep you can get into this if you want to get that deep. Yeah. Everybody, you know, every game it's like probably the perfect game for score. Yeah.
    9:41
    Bookworm, freeze, and then tut later in the game. Yeah. But then sometimes, you know, you get into ball two, ball three, and like I got nothing going on. I got to put some points on the board. But if you have that bookworm and freeze, you can get right back into your two 3X and another bat turn that's going to live for that ball. Yeah. but if you guys want to play the cheap way,
    10:05
    you want to do Bookworm Freeze, Mad Hatter, then just keep playing Shane. But there's so many other points if you want to take bigger risks with Egghead and stuff like that. And then also, if you do those three, Bookworm Freeze, Mad Hatter, you didn't finish the season three, though. So you can't get that mini wizard stuff going on. so you do have to dip into, you know, the... Yeah, the third season, yeah, right. Jack, are you wearing your dad shoes? I sure am. So, the Internet wants to know, like, what does it mean to be a studio game? What does that mean? Oh, I see. Yeah, I guess it's more... Yeah, I use it as a stern term because that's what we use internally about studio games. Sure.
    10:49
    I guess, originally, when we started doing Pro Premium LE, and that was, like, kind of all we were doing. through the year or whatever. We didn't really call them anything. And then once we started to introduce new products like O'Neilly and some of the private label stuff, it just sort of distinguished it from the other sort of predictable flow of games that come out of the company. You had to give it a name because there was, yeah, like the contract game. Yeah, there's no real schedule for them other than like, okay, we have a license for something and we want to maybe come out with it here or whatever it is. Yeah, dope. Yeah, where it's more like the Cornerstone games come out. On a three-year, yeah, on a schedule. Cool. And they're like, here's the date for it. Oh, so this was, okay, I see what you're saying. I mean, this didn't necessarily have a deadline like the Cornerstone games did, but it's like, man, what a beautiful frickin' pinball machine.
    11:51
    Also, art done by Chris Franchi, if you're not familiar. Chris Franchi, that guy's great. Everything he's done for us. He's packed it out of the park every single time. Yeah, it's beautiful. Damn. Cool. Internet, do you have any other questions? What's your favorite rule or feature you've ever coded? That's tough. That's like what's your favorite child type of stuff. Actually, the one I kind of like is maybe the rule of feature, but I like the ex-champion in the high score on Walking Dead where you had this big score and it was like, okay, this is how I got it. Whereas some people see whatever champion on a game and they say, oh, well, I don't know how you did it. If I just said ex-champion and some big score, it's like, well, how did you, like, what was going on? Yeah, right. You know, yeah, yeah. It sort of helps explain how you got, in like a broad term, how you got that score. That rule, I kind of wish there was more like, when you've got, when you've made the shot, like, it just needs, like, bigger feedback, like, when you get it for a big score. Yeah, that, I love that. But, I don't, I like that rule a lot, just because it's, once you know it's there, and build up to it and then it's like you get it like it just feels really good you know if you miss it like you know you don't get it all the time yeah right all right i could do it next time so is there any limitations with the current hardware holding back some ideas that you may have i don't think so i mean in back in those damn days we were always sort of constrained by how much storage we had. Oh, like memory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like for, obviously, game code and memory, we had limited RAM on the old system, limited storage, and now it's, I don't know. I mean, outside of GPU, not really. Right on. I mean, we pretty much do whatever we want. So I don't see, you know, any real holdup. I mean, I know I've watched that in Metallica. It's like you hit the wall with space. Sure. And it's just like, all right, I want to put some more stuff in the game. But I'm sort of stuck. No, that makes sense, man. Damn. Okay, I'd say we get a few games in on this. Ladies and gentlemen, okay, so just so you know, we are not going to be hearing any game audio. Okay. But the Internet is getting direct audio off of the game. Gotcha. That way there's not a weird echo. Okay. would you prefer that we all heard the audio together or that they just got like crisp, clean audio?
    14:34
    You're going to get the audio. I don't need to hear it. I'm saying it's up to you. I played the game. I could do it without audio. Yeah, I could do it without audio too. It's fine. Internet, enjoy the direct audio, okay? Play field slightly out of focus. I can fix that right now. Hold on.
    14:52
    No, I don't think it is actually. Oh, yes it is. There you go. We'll put it on auto. You're welcome. We may have to turn that Metallica down because that thing is screaming back there. Alright folks, let me know if you can hear this audio. That should sound pretty good for you. Yeah, you'll get a steady stream of people from product development coming out. Play some games? That's why I was turning a few of these off. I first wondered about Lyman louder. Very loud compared to Metallica. Okay, we'll turn Metallica off. I was going to say, guy is about to do a live stream. Oh, wait. Can I get an exclamation point rule, please? Yeah. Okay. That's awesome, Strongs. Okay, here we go. 50's good? All right. One. Players.
    15:55
    I'll let you start us off. A warm, serene afternoon in Gotham City. The fall of the... Is that audio pretty good, folks?
    16:13
    I'm coming. Look at that pulse. I can't watch it on video. Yeah, I'm sorry. I can read it. Yeah, I know. Sorry. Audio's screaming loud after the plunge? Okay.
    16:51
    We'll do 48. There you go. It is really loud. Man, you guys are picky. All right, there you go. Alright. So is there a major villain that you prefer to play with? You know, I think probably right now, just for points and whatever,
    17:13
    Penguin and, you know, probably I'd say the one that could use a revisit for balancing with the rest of them would be Joker. Okay. And that's the one I happen to start. Oh, there you go. So, yeah. So, he's probably... Wow, look. Yeah. I'll say, I try not to play Penguin just because that crane, man. Yeah, you want to make some money. Like, the way I like to play, I don't like to focus on the major villain, and that thing is just in the way all the time. Right.
    17:47
    It's been a while since I watched the screen dead flip. Oh, it was great, Echelon. It was great. Volume is at 420. Yeah. Do you have a favorite flipper technique, i.e. the dead flip, wide catch, drop catch, something like that?
    18:04
    That was a pretty sexy little drop catch there. The flippers are angled a little. Yeah, a little. Can you explain the interplay between the major and minor villains? The major villains is sort of like up front points. I guess I'd like to say, I mean, this is my take on it. The major villains just like the overarching like, everything's going to give you points and then you can build up a jackpot and then collect it, but really you want to keep skipping it to keep building up those jackpots. Yeah, it depends on how far or how quickly you want to get into the Villain Escape, this wizard mode. mode, I mean, if you wanted to, you could just play just all of the first stages of each one, and get there fairly quickly, and then the points probably wouldn't be, you know, as high as if you played out all the way through to the end of one of them. But if you play all the way out through the end of one of them, you'll obviously get a lot more points, but it'll just make it harder to get to, yeah. Usually, I only collect the very first level of a major villain if I'm in a pinch for a multiball. Because your first two majors down will give you extra ball life. Yeah, that's the other level. I thought I could do that. How much strength are you back from this guy? The flippers are angled a little high. Yeah, they are angled a little high. That's awesome. Well, we're kind of doing, we're kind of doing that up. We're trying to make five times. Oh yeah, here we go, right. So, I don't know. There's no shame in staying, but... Yeah, I'll try that. Oh, you're going three? Yeah. That's putting me on a little bit. I feel like there's too much pressure on me to not screw up. Yeah.
    20:03
    Get it. Shame all day, baby. Well, I mean, I don't know about that. Ooh. I caught a little bit of air and went where the diverter is. There it is. It's coming. Coming back. Yep. Coming back.
    20:26
    Yeah, now I'm in trouble. I've never seen that happen. Folks, by the way, these games are here to be tested. So we're just, we're playing on what's in the arcade right now. No shame for shame? I mean, shame all day is a little, you're not going to get the points you want out of shame all day.
    20:45
    Well, the other thing, too, is there was some discussion, too, maybe once you play the game, that the second time through would it maybe be a multi-ball. Oh, sort of like Peter Quill from Guardian, sort of. The first time you play it, it is. The second time, it is not. So, but then if you, um... But if you had maybe, uh, the Mad Hatter one where you could replay, then maybe it would be a nice call. Yeah. Oh, okay, because it would remember that state, quote unquote, that it was in.
    21:21
    Okay, okay. Okay, good ball. Tested. What is this, premium? The base model is premium. Yeah, the other ones went out, I want to say, about this time two years ago. And that was the end of the Super-Eleven. And the Elevs, but we were making the premiums pretty much like the last two years. Oh, nice. Yeah. You know, this thing was leveled a moment ago front to back, but it was not leveled left to right. It should be fun. I think my favorite game so far... Oh, Batman? Yeah, it's a blast. How do you feel about the action button? I like how it's used in Batman.
    22:12
    I like, um... Well, so, it probably started, like, way back to when... What? Attack from Mars? I think it was probably the first one that... Oh, the bomb. Yeah, yeah, the Martian bomb and the evil... We're here in a great urgency. Yeah, and then it's always like, all right, well, what else can I do with it that I haven't already done with that? And then, so this one, it just made sense to use it, you know, for gadgets.
    22:47
    Because, oh, all right. I hope you're all enjoying this. Okay. So, and then, you know, it just sort of depends on, you know, where you're at in the game sometimes you don't just do what you want. The other mode that I had is where you actually have to use it to finish the mode. Sure. Which, you know, again, there's always sometimes when I make something So I was like, well, it's an experiment or whatever it is. You know, like the freeze timer one. I'm like, okay, I'll try it out and see how it is. It's like, well, I like it. And then, but, it's like you have to balance it with everything else in the game. The other thing, too, is just the channel changing with a button, which is also like kind of a gadget in and of itself. So, like, if I didn't want to see all the multiball stuff, I could just, like, switch back. The channel changing is huge. Like, I just switched it over to the joker. and so now I can see like, oh, okay.
    24:01
    Yeah, channel changing is huge for like if I'm in a multi-ball and I'm in like Mr. Freeze and I need to know what shots I still need, you switch over to that because instead of everything being green and purple for like a mode that you're in, you want to be able to see those blue and red shots. Yeah, and then it's not just, right, it's the screen plus the lights. There you go. People are like, I didn't even know you could do that. Yeah, when you're in two different modes, holding the action button for like a second or whatever will switch in between the modes. So here I can just hold it and it'll switch back over to, so right now I have multiball and joker going on at the same time. Now I'm out of multiball and it'll switch over. It should also switch the music for the mode too. Yeah, it does. It switches the music. Yeah, the music, the TV effects, and also the lights. I'll try and start something else once we show, like, what. Yeah, see, that's just there. How the hell are you that busy? That's just there.
    25:05
    All right. Yeah, I made a mistake with this. No, not a mistake, but... Free gadgets. Yeah, yeah. So you'll know that you finished a minor villain on the play field because the season that they're in, the TV will be solid. Yeah, down here it'll just go solid. And then, you know, I should add also if you, you know, just something if you complete it, just so you know, like a factor or whatever. I know there's, you know, he gets, when he gets jailed, when you complete it. Oh, please a little animation. Yeah, but if it's in one of the smaller ones, you don't probably get the feedback in the main one, so maybe have a sound or something. I think it does have jailed animation sound, right? Yeah, no, it does. It's just that when the TV is off, you don't hear it. Oh, I see what you're saying.
    26:01
    Yeah. Waston creeping in the background? Yeah, don't let Lime and Cheat cheat. Waston is like a professional. I'm not going to talk about this now. He's the known death saver around here. Totally cheated by the way. Yellow and red cards. I don't know about this game so much if you can do it. How many wizard modes are there so far? I've only gotten villainous games. So there's one for each of these down here also. So if you finish up...
    26:37
    Yeah, if you get all three seasons lit, and you shoot it back into the TV, like, little scoop in the back, you get to choose between three different... Oh, otherwise I don't have the bat signal. Yeah, you get to shoot into the bat signal. You get to choose between three different, like, multiball wizard modes. And they all play differently. They all have different lighting effects, music effects, stuff like that. One more and I had it. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's the other thing.
    27:02
    Orange stick, don't defecate. It's cheating. Yeah. Well, I mean it's not cheating. It's cool looking. There's one for each of the seasons, so once you finish Once you jail a villain One from each season and get these lights lit up
    27:20
    You'll be able to pick from three wizard mobs So instead of picking a minor villain you pick a wizard mobs. I like it
    27:36
    I like the gas attack multi-ball, or the mini-wish-mo thing. I like that. I love that addition. It was really cool. And because it was, like, so new, it just felt like you got, like, a whole new, like, oh, I fumbled that big time. It's just fun. Yeah. And you can see all these cool animations. And something, folks, that you may not know is, we'll start another game here real quick. I'll go first. Okay. Wason, are you in on this? Yes. Okay. So something you may not know. Let the balls drain first. I want to show something.
    28:10
    So, if you hit the right flipper and hold it, there's Catwoman, okay? So, if you hit the left flipper, you get to change what episode for Catwoman will show up when you start that major villain. If you hit right flipper again, here's Joker. Surfing Joker, best Joker. Okay? Surfing Joker, best Joker. So, we'll shoot for Joker here. Uh-oh. I'm just taking notes, ladies and gentlemen. What's that? A bat repellent?
    28:43
    A track repellent. Yeah. Why would Batman have bat repellent? I don't know. Have what? Bat repellents? Oh, yeah. I mean, he's technically not so rescue. We're not going to dust save. I screwed up. My life is a fart.
    28:58
    I know if I do it, then I'll probably wreck your gear or something. Fair enough. That would be a big accident. You should always be wary of Machine Violence. I will report you to the Machine Overlord later. Hey, I don't get yellow cards. I invented yellow cards.
    29:15
    Not tournament yellow cards. Those are for your church midiots. Whoa, yellow cards, dude. There's also no ball play about this. I didn't even get to write it down. You guys drain so fast.
    29:31
    Also, don't let Jack distract you when you're playing. Wow, dude. That's bad for you as well. Alright, linemen. You guys need some skills. Oh my god! You know, I'm just... I gotta start trash talking. Sorry? How did we do that?
    29:53
    Zero days since the last active, that is true. Yeah, Bruce, um... Each episode is the same shot. Yes, correct. there's, honestly, there's different animations. I think the shots are the same.
    30:09
    Uh, thank you for watching. For the different episodes. So, is regular Joker versus surfing Joker all the same shots that are going to lie down? No. Oh, they are different. No, the surfing Joker, well, so this Joker is like, there's one shot and then four, and then the first stage you can either, you know, continue to play it. Yeah, actually, in that stage, um, You know, you could stack it with multiball and all those shots are just lit, whatever.
    30:42
    The surfing one, the first part of it is like shots, also with switches, and there's a, you know, like a percentage where you just want to get, you know, you want to beat Joker while, you know, while you're surfing. So it's more of like a sort of progress thing, not a sequence of shots, but more like speed. Do the larger magnet discs serve any function other than saving the playfield art near the magnet?
    31:20
    I don't know. I would say that was the reason why it was designed. because a lot of games like, you know, I think Iron Man probably was the game that everybody looked at and said, like, oh, you know, this is... Oh, the whiplash area? Yeah, and in front of the monger also. And then still, I don't know, that's what human beings do, you know. They look at something and try to figure out a way to improve it. People want to buy that notebook you were just holding? Okay, that feels good. How much to bribe Wyman to put an easter egg in his game? I'm sure he's dripping an easter egg. Yeah, there have been a few.
    32:08
    It depends on what it is. Does Strickland get popcorn to all their visitors? I'm not a visitor, bro.
    32:15
    The answer is maybe. Iron Man is so fast. Do you like your milk? Iron Man is pretty fast. It's fun, though.
    32:23
    There's popcorn to be had. Iron Man was an interesting game when Lonnie and I worked on Iron Man, and we were three players, and I was like, okay, you guys got three months to make this game. Wow. Yeah, so it's like, all right. But I enjoyed playing that game a lot. When it first came out, I was kind of like, well, you come up making a game like Spider-Man, and it's like, okay, it's a little different game. But in the end, I like the variety. You know, I like longer playing games, and I like shorter playing games, and it's just sort of kind of like, well, whatever I'm in the mood for.
    33:04
    I remember, oh, Cranky said he loved you, by the way. Oh, you know what? Chris Franchi, you rock. Your stuff is great. It's awesome.
    33:14
    All right, Chris Franchi did a... Jack in Lyman. There's one video clip of traffic in front of a building that the video file has black bars on the left and right. It's the only clip that is like this. Like it was processed as an incorrect aspect ratio, but for sure it would have been addressed in one of the updates.
    33:32
    What? I know one of the updates, there was a typo with some of the conversion, and that was the one where some of the clips were blurry. if you let me know which one it is or what scene it is or whatever it is I'll look at it and fix it you know it might just be to I don't know I mean it might just be to yeah I'm not sure because all of that is just sort of straight off the DVDs what they give you yeah internet by the way That noise is every time someone buys a Stern Pinball machine.
    34:18
    It just keeps going up. It's 5 o'clock somewhere. Where can I send a pic? Send it to bugreport at sternpinball.com. Oh, bug.report at sternpinball.com.
    34:39
    Come on. Look, it's there all day. Oh, trouble for you. Every time someone buys a spare lime, he gets his wings.
    34:53
    It's funny, because when you said that, I was thinking of It's a Wonderful Life, yeah. Is that letting go No it behind that False search Come on down baby I was just thinking that I hadn watched that movie I usually watch it Oh, Wonder Love. Wonder Love. Yes, yes. One of my favorites, actually. It's a great movie. Yeah. Even though it takes place in New Jersey. Is it New Jersey? Oh, yeah. Wait, what's wrong with New Jersey? Everything's fine. Oh, wow! Internet! Sorry! All my New Jersey fans out there. Also email me at jack.nudes at sternpinball.com No that's all I have Ouch what's wrong with you Jersey Alright How can someone from Chicago be talking about Thank you for this favor Mike. Mike my official disclaimer guy.
    36:08
    Thank you Franchi. Waston if you want a photocopter behind the... Is that what we're calling it? It's a, uh, spotted soda? No, you need more so you can talk to this ball. So what is this?
    36:30
    By the way, is that spotted soda? No, it's soda pop. Two Brothers Soda. Excellent. Come on, you know that was me, baby. Two Brothers here. Why can't we see the power of microwaves? Do you really want to see the microwaves? I don't know if I'm allowed to show that. Actually, I'm not going to walk around here with a camera. That's stupid. Nothing.
    36:50
    How much are you willing to pay? No, but I remember right there, I think I was just turning the camera.
    37:00
    Sometimes you just got to use the gadget. Mm-hmm. This is for the utility, though. Are you choking on that, Lyman? What's that? No, I think I missed it.
    37:10
    Yeah. Oh, no, I did. You have one gadget. Yeah. Lyman, have you ever been surprised by tournament play on one of your games? like an unintended strategy that developed that needed to be nerfed?
    37:28
    I think that happened on ACDC. Yeah, outside of the Bowen ACDC issue, which was, you know, the logic for the, I was going to call it a cannon. Well, it is a cannon, actually. You know, it's basically the same as what was on Terminator 2. Is it when it fired directly? Yeah. Which, when Steve and I were talking about it, he's like, well, let's just do what we did on T2. So when it comes down and it goes back up and you don't shoot it, then it shoots the ball out when it sees the switch that says you're out of range and you shouldn't shoot the ball on the way back up. And then just, you know, in the tournament on that game, Bowen, I think, I don't know who found it at first. Like, I don't know if it was Trent or. Failure. Oh. It didn't go in the saucer. But I think I already had the atom ball.
    38:30
    Yeah, I don't know. I think either Bowen or Trent or somebody found it because it just happened that somebody was playing a multi-ball and it timed out and it went up there just naturally. and then somebody was like, oh, look at this. And then Moe... It was great that it shot so well up that ramp, though. People used it as a strategy, like... Yeah. Yeah, and, you know, that's fine. I mean, that's how it goes with games. Somebody plays it and there's something that...
    39:02
    that you end up having to fix. because we're all on the path to greatest points for least effort. Well, at least for tournament people. Yeah, baby. Yep. I'm tearing it up. So if you have any other questions, feel free to post them in chat.
    39:26
    What else have we got here? You know. I don't know. Anyone who has a question, you can post it in the chat. Jack, where do babies come from? You buy them at the supermarket. Has Lyman ever used any Robotron-inspired rules in any of his games?
    39:54
    Wow, Robotron. My favorite video game of all time. Actually, one of the greatest ever made. In fact, if somebody had one for sale... For real, he is. Anybody in the Midwest, he expects a good year's top dollar.
    40:09
    I don't... Not that I know of off the top of my head, but... Third top dollar. First top. Yeah, but I do enjoy that game, you know, to the point where I think when I go to level 257 for the Stealthy League, actually end up playing Robotron instead of Pinball.
    40:34
    All right, we've got a couple questions here. Francie wants to know what happened to the animated Steve Richie on the extra ball animation. I think that's still there. I think it's still there, too. Yeah, I did not put that there to say, like, no, I'm very hands-off about stuff like that just because, I don't know. So there's a bunch of us in Walking Dead, which I had no idea until somebody told me I was like the sniper at the start of the movie. Oh, well, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah. And then I'm the guy at the islands once you win Last Man Standing. Are you ready to go? All right. So I got... Oh, you're ready. I did one, two, three. Yeah. So I'm good to go there. What is your favorite machine outside of the Stern collection for just games that you, I don't know, all games considered?
    41:29
    Wow, that's a tough one, too. You know, I still really like Attack on Mars. Yeah, me too. Yeah, and it's just really simple and fun, and I just never get tired of it.
    41:41
    I don't know. you know, some older kids. I love Apol Deluxe. Apol Deluxe, right. Yeah. Is there, do you have a dream theme that hasn't been done yet? Obviously, maybe we don't want to say that. Yeah, don't tell them.
    42:03
    Maybe we don't want to let you know. It's going to be a surprise. Yeah, maybe we don't want to let you know. Yeah, there are a few. I would I mean no I'd love to do an unlicensed game sometime yeah that'd be great so I think Lyman and I need to make a pinball machine he's going to design it I'm going to program it what else you got going on Lyman put an awful lot of time on his jack down in Louisville Yeah. I don't remember that game being so hard. But I just remember playing it very differently. It was, I think it was Papa 4, maybe? Papa 3 or Papa 4.
    42:55
    And I don't know. Everybody just went for multiball and got, you know, super jackpots, like 100 million or whatever. And, yeah, then that one in Louisville, I don't know. it's just played kind of weird or who knows what, but people were going for all the secret features. That's right, it did have a button. It has all the secret... I had one of those for a very short period of time in my secret for a week.
    43:20
    And it's a weird one, man. Yeah. So much failure. Failure. The game is so damn hard. Let's see. Is there a rule or code in the game that you didn't program that you really like to play?
    43:38
    For what? AC. No, I'm kidding. For this game? What are you doing? I don't know. I'm leaning over, breathing in his mouth. Yeah. All right, you're up, brother. No, I'm not up. How am I up? I'm up. Okay. Well, I mean, he was tickling me, and then I tipped him back.
    43:57
    All right, so that's the most... Oh, we're not going to ask that. You guys, the internet's trolling me a little bit right now.
    44:14
    Cosmic gunfight. Yeah, cosmic gunfight. Gary Stern, he was annoying me. Yep, that was a great clip. I don't know if you all saw that, but I got a great clip of when I streamed Beatles in New York of Gary Stern blaming his poor play on me annoying him. It was a true story.
    44:37
    What's up, Chomp? Good to see you. Keep them questions coming, ladies and gentlemen. This looks like the two worst shots for me. I know nobody can probably say he obviously needed a pin shitter wait what am I reading he obviously needed a pin shitter he didn't call it a pin shitter anymore oh I thought you said a pin shitter yeah like a pin shitter no a pin shitter yeah yeah a pin shitter oh no no no I paid an ounce for the pin shitter I thought you were going to I thought you guys were talking about baseball. You just stand up a cabinet, dig a little hole. No, just crap through the coin door, man. Right into a hole in the ground. So if you're doing a particularly good game and you have to go.
    45:32
    I need a pinch hitter. Don't worry. They have a South Park episode that covers this. Which designer do I have been working with right now? We can't play that. That happened twice. Waston, you're in big trouble. Garbage. It's garbage.
    45:47
    First you and your magnificent luck. Yeah. I was going to say that, you know. What programming languages have been used, are used in pinball programming?
    46:03
    We've used assembly language, DC++. I know some other people, what is it, the P-Rock guys use? Python. But they have some other stuff that they can use. Yeah. Right, they can use. I think it's Python up front, And then you can get as deep as you want with, like, some steam. Oh, I need that chop. Compound steam. Oh, you choked. You choked, Lionel. That was terrible. Does anyone ever sneak any Easter eggs into these games? All the freaking time. All the time, dude. Yeah. I think these games are 50% Easter eggs.
    46:37
    Here's a rule. Surprise. Yeah, surprise. All right, retrograde this thing. Oh, you're done. I saw that coming. Wow, Waston just yelling at people. That was terrible.
    46:46
    Yeah, Waston likes to heckle people. Yeah, man. Yeah. What a champion. That's what happens when you don't get to play very well.
    46:54
    Okay, I'm going to focus on this last ball here. It didn't even start a major villain. What a champion. Oh, I did. I totally blew my holy multiball.
    47:08
    Rick, that's... Do you guys have any more questions? How can I work for Stern? I think there's a jobs page.
    47:15
    Or... There is. Oh, there is? contact Wason he takes all job requests I am susceptible to rides it is true oh bad bets Lyman what's the best Batman 66 episode could be the one you're playing the surfing I also like the one with the flying saucer that was pretty cool there was a flying saucer Yeah, with the Joker. Oh, that's cool. Get in there. Are you having a stroke? No, he's fine. I think Jack's Easter egg should be in every Stern game. Nah, that takes the fun out of it, man. It takes the fun out of it. Yeah, he doesn't pay us enough for that. Wait, I pay you guys? I forget how this works. Yeah, he doesn't pay us enough for that. Wait, I pay you guys? I forgot how this works. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got one up here for you so you don't have to bust it out. Oh, okay.
    48:22
    One ginger ale. It's just a matter of great urgency. More time for my 2x. 2x? Oh, that's garbage. No, we're skipping that. A lot of people are asking too about, you know, there's some characters that we weren't asking you for the license. Like, Han Harriet is a fan of the, uh, any of the clips or any of the storylines. All these things is because he was off limits, not allowed. Oh, really? Yeah. Huh. Yeah. And then, obviously, the other minor villains like Lock King and Archer.
    49:09
    Man, I have to go back and watch all this stuff. Honestly, Twitch as a platform likes to buy out entire runs of TV shows and then stream them front to back at first episode to last episode. I think this would be great for them to get their hands on. It's a lot of stuff. It's 120 episodes. They're all about 45 minutes long. Damn. Well, they streamed every single Pokemon episode. That was awesome. Yeah. The guy on the left holding that cup is going to have a game. What, this Ding Dong? Who? What? Who am I? What am I doing here? Yeah, they did MST3K also. Yeah, I'll play on the next game.
    49:53
    Flattery and Brighter. Oh yeah, they also played every Power Rangers episode from every Power Rangers, like, licensed brand, theme, whatever. Terrible, terrible! Yep, they streamed every Bob Ross as well, through that. I'm gonna, you know what, I'm gonna text... Bob Ross? The guy who used to paint the Beatles? The painter, yeah. They stream him like 24-7. I used to watch that when I was a kid. They stream that crap 24-7. I wanna say that Tyler is kind of famous, though.
    50:51
    Isn't that Adam West in his full Batman costume at a car show in Omaha in 1977? Whoa. Dude, that's nuts.
    51:03
    Like that one shot. There you go. I'm sure he was walking around in that stuff. You just ran into him randomly.
    51:12
    Whatever. I beat Jack. That's the important thing. Wow. See, this is why I can't play casual pinball, folks. Because there's shit like that. I'll play it, sure. Yeah, take that, Jack. Uh-huh. All right. I'm starting over? I'm conceding my last call. Okay, I like it. You won.
    51:28
    Bad man. Guess what, Mike? Welcome to the party. No question, Mike. Hello, Internet. It's been a while. Internet, this is Mike Vinacore.
    51:42
    Vinacore. Most extreme Vinacore. MXB. I like that. I usually always say it was Master of Extreme Violence. I totally forgot which high score Chris Franchi wanted in the high score tables. Oh, he pulled them? He F'd for a hundred. Yeah, I know which one I want, Lyle. It's all 69. All 69. I mean, it's a holy multi-mote. Oh, okay. Holy multi-mote. Holy multi-mote's pretty hilarious. pretty hilarious once you start getting a lot of hits and you get riled up screaming I have a feeling gas attack is going to be something that somebody wants to do Gas attack? I don't know Wait, why are we letting Lyman play last? What? Ah, come on
    52:39
    Yeah, you never know It's a little, they put the... There's a lot of weird things going on. They put the little rubber things on the front. The leveling was done super on the fly. I never come out here to play these games. I play the ones on top. Yeah.
    53:02
    Got that new building type prototype in the back there. Are the Illinois IFD championships going to be at LimeScan? No. I don't know. I don't know, actually. I think Wordrick wants me to come over to possibly check that out. I'm not sure. It's still on the table, but... You have a lot of room down there. Or do you? You do. It's all filled up. It's all... I sure... Whoa.
    53:35
    Yo, can you keep it down back there, bud? Yo, Jug Parsons, what's up, dude? Yeah, I think it's still on the table. Sick. Yeah.
    53:47
    Nice whip. Oh, my God. What have I done? Yo, where is the prototype for this? Oh. Okay, I do not want the frickin' penguin. For the... But you're getting it. For the feed. Oh.
    54:07
    Yeah, I just added a study for that. I mean, I'm using my special box, but Jim Turd is working on something secret. Why am I talking about it?
    54:26
    Hey, we're all doing really well. All right, player one. Oh, Mike. How can you even get less than a million on this game? Then they're two scores less than the other. Yeah. Ouch. Ouch. Just kicking it here. Nice, dude. Batman is such an epic game. It really is, you know. Wow. You'll be free to stream Chicago Pinball League from my house on January 5th. I think I was invited to join that, actually. You were? Who's costume? January. I don't know. Yancy? Oh, is that Izzy? Yeah, he did. All right, yeah.
    55:09
    You can do it. You totally should. Yeah. What, stream it or join this? Both. Johnny? Don Coons. Just a pro. Yeah, all right. So, ain't that a good one? There's an opening. Yeah. He's enjoying that. That's fine. Man, I ain't got it.
    55:24
    It's like a secret. It's like the Illuminati for pinball. Yes. Even though I'm not invited. You're totally not invited.
    55:35
    Wow, dude. Oh! That was dirty. You have, like, two dangerous... Why don't we have more sound? You don't need sound to play pinball. I do. I've never even played pinball. Just imagine you had a loud, bulking bar. I don't go into those. Like this, Bob? I do. Well, you know what? The internet can hear crystal clear, beautiful audio. Oh, my God. Put the headphones in. You can get it in the box online. Strain rack. If you want to put a 300 headphones in your ear. No way. Well then, we're good to go. Speaking of secrets, would you ever do that game show? Uh, that's a secret. Oh man. Is he done? Super game show? Super game show. All righty. I'm taking money. No way. Uh, well. Yeah. So, question two, what to do. No, they renamed it Whammy's now. Oh, it's not called Press Your Luck? No, they did a remake.
    56:43
    I'm against it. I'm against you. No, I'm against them remaking it. Come on, you guys. They remade it. Come up with your own, please. It was like ten years ago. Exactly, right?
    56:55
    Oh, come on, TV. Does anyone else remember the remake of Press Your Luck called Whammy's? No? I never heard of it. I know the original Press Your Luck. I'm gonna boost it up a little bit. So you're gonna have the newest remake of it? I'm gonna beat all you guys with one round of chains. Your anti-New Jersey comments put bad mojo on here. One of the few things I missed from the early code is how much of the Riddler's laugh was in the code. I don't remember him laughing anymore in the old code. Where'd that other ball go? Did it get us stuck? Oh, here it is. Oh. There is just a random pinball sitting on the floor there. I... Oh, no, the glorious day. What happened? Is it up in the side? I don't see it. That side go up there somewhere. The league we were talking about, like, we play at different person's house every, every Saturday. Oh. It's very prestigious. I used to host one month in my house until I got mad and then I don't host anymore. But I still play in it. It's called the Chicago. How many people in Chicago actually host it? Zero. Well, what the frick, dude?
    58:14
    Hey, when you're from Chicago, that encompasses all the suburbs, too. It's like Los Angeles. I mean, Los Angeles area is monstrous, but it's not all Los Angeles. What was that? I don't think I know Jim Stracey, but there's a couple other leagues around here, too, that play in the people's homes. So that might be a different league.
    58:41
    Okay, I got Riddler's Laugh request. More laughing. Doesn't he just laugh all the time? You know, he could laugh. Yeah, he could. Joker laughs. Funny. Yeah. The Riddler and Joker both have such iconic laughs. Yeah, they were good laughers. He's got a mustache. Well, Cesar Romero, I guess, covered his lips. Yeah. No, wait. J.J.'s got his. He's got Matt Hatter's. I've never been to Seattle, but I think I'm going to remedy that in 2019. To Seattle? I think on my list of shows I'm going to, for Stern, I think that there is perhaps a Tacoma walk-in show. Yo, good question for you. Yes. See under the slingshot, you know, the actual kicking part of the slingshot? Yeah, the kicker arm. Between that and the leaf switch, there's a metal disc. I think it's a work disc, right? You know, like a flat metal disc. Yeah, it is.
    59:43
    It's to mount the mech on the bottom. Wow. I where do I get this I guess oh yeah there's a weekend for our titles you know they got them oh I got a magnet will take what the heck this is this is alright what do we got there awesome yeah so why means that can you read that like market Hollywood I don't know alignment is cyber not will change your life from his friend of X-Balls. Got it.
    60:24
    I don't know what a Climber Note is. Climber Note. Uh, the pinball machine. Climber Note. It's a lot of video games. Climber Note.
    60:37
    Did you want a photo? No, I'm full. I mean, I'm working. I kind of think if you're a pinball you're always working. Yeah buddy. Yeah I have a pinball thing.
    60:53
    You're doing great. Alright, I should have taken it. It's two but no, it's two but yeah. You have to warm something. I've... Ooh you got your light. Yeah.
    61:08
    What's he going to do? Is he going to keep screaming at us or is he going to freeze it? Oh no, I need to fix that too. That's a little good. Yeah, I should just not allow that. Boy, that happens. No, no. It was the Batmobile. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The spinner was because it's not perfectly centered right now. So the spinner is not. Yeah. I really would like, I always like the turntable. The dust-free multipliers and the penguin holes. Oh, the right ramp. Very multi-ball. That's good, yeah. Yeah.
    61:45
    It's multi-ball. Yeah, but it's more multi-ball. Bless Batman! It's perfect. All right. Oh, you're minor villain? Internet. Best minor villain in the game is Mr. Freeze, but only if you have bookworms completed.
    62:09
    Very true. Or if it's fall 3. I mean, if it's fall 3 and you're down, you want to just go 3. If you're asking, my personal favorite from just watching the show or if you're asking me on a pinball strategy, my favorite minor villain from just watching is probably Mad Hatter and King Tut. Yeah, King Tut's my favorite just because it's like acting and the enthusiasm and the emotion that he has when he... I don't know. He's a pretty cool guy. So, in the Batman universe, how many of these minor villains actually have, like, powers? None of them. Superpowers? Um, I guess Kilotron kind of, like... Okay, how about the... Well, I mean, like, in the Batman, like, uh, Poison Ivy had powers. Mr. Freeze had... Yeah, that was terrible. Mr. Freeze didn't have a power. Mr. Freeze had an affliction that required that his body be controlled. Yeah. And then he came- then he designed a weapon. A play-scape weapon. Okay. So, here's the- the real question. What the fuck is Shane's power? Is he just the cowboy? He's just the- he's just the bumbling cowboy. How is he anything- What? That was- that was- How is he anything to Batman? The reason he's in the show is because the producers were like, in the thick of things, westerns are cool, we need a cowboy in the show. And they spun off Shane. Well, did you ever watch Shane with Alan Lantz? I think I watched it in junior high for a film class or something. It's actually pretty cool for film. He just wants to be a cowboy.
    63:44
    He's just an angry cowboy. Yeah, Mr. Freeze is a minor villain, but he's so important in this game. He's like the strongest thing on the game. He freezes your timers. And by freezing your timers, that means when you start your 2X and your 3X, and anything that has a timer, like your bat turns and stuff, those are with you for the rest of your ball. So you are permanently in 3X, and bat turn just lights up other shots. It's just you're pooping money everywhere, dude. I have points, sorry. Pooping money. Pooping the money.
    64:24
    More laughing. More riddler laughing. More laughing. Nailed it. Yeah, for me, because I was at Data East when we made a count from the correct, like, that's all that game did was laugh. Oh, dude, that game could laugh so much. Laugh. Laugh proof. Welcome aboard, Taylor. I'll do a couple of these, I can go into it. Mike, you just nailed down a dozen. You're back here. Mike, you just know that I'm going to put you back here.
    65:00
    You guys are funny. Entire backside. Well, thank you for 39 months in a row. You're amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, flip us some butts up, please, for Wolf Marsh.
    65:11
    If everyone didn't know, our mics took tonight. Internet, check this out. Subscribe. It's fun. You better.
    65:21
    ball save I mean it's Lyman does play this game a lot but that isn't why he's doing so well he is actually an incredibly good pinball player I used to be much better oh come on give me a thing someone redid the Tales from the Crypt ROM to include less laughing that's a lot of work Son of a... Welcome aboard, Dexter! Other than that, I mean, I like that game. Gears in for 43 months in a row. Thank you for making your membership to the league. You're amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, Flippers and butts up. Dude, 43 months! Oh! I hear Lyman is a world class Arkanoid player. Oh, good lord! That was terrible. You should see him play Rolling Thunder. Alright, Port 47. You guys are turning this over. No, we did terrible. Mike and I are a fan of the team. I'm going to go back to this. Bye Internet. I can't do any more. Bye, BD. You're personally crushed by Lyman at the 2015 ISBA Nationals? There you go.
    66:38
    I think Charm also adds hardcore. Yeah, I'm shaved out. Alright, uh... Do it. Get me eggs. Yeah, except I don't have my multi-ball setup. Uh, no ball of zebo. Alright, folks, here's where we climb out of our hole here.
    67:02
    Here's where we, uh... Here's where we dig ourselves out of a hole. Is that a preference question? Yeah. Yeah, that's a tough one because, yeah, I mean, the stuff that Brian and I and George and I worked on at Williams had auto plungers and I like having the button. Yeah. And from a cost standpoint, it's way cheaper than an auto plunger. And then the combo one is like, I don't know. I think I just like the button in an auto-plunger.
    67:44
    I guess. That's right. Yeah. I'm fine with the auto one, but it depends on the game. Like in Kiss, I'm going to self-plunge it all the time to try to get it to roll back down the right more of it. So I don't want the auto-launcher to work in that one. I know if I put a button and an auto-launch on a game, I'm not going to have to watch Kaylee George play Sopranos for an hour without ever not being able to... Qualifying the playthrough? Yeah, exactly.
    68:18
    Okay, give it to me, baby. Oop! Alright. But I definitely like having the button. How many dusky red shirts do you own? What does that mean?
    68:32
    No, two. I just... Wow, what a question, Internet. What a question. You guys are champions. All right, turn that damn back.
    68:47
    Oh, get up there. Dusty red shirt. Just a lucky programming shirt. Yeah. I don't know. They're lucky.
    68:57
    Gray, black, blue, dusty red. Yep. Dusty Ridd. Get back there. You turd. Oh! Okay, well, man, player two.
    69:15
    Sorry, Wason, for talking all that shit and walking away with three million points. He totally jinxed himself with that new jersey. Totally did. Yeah. All right.
    69:27
    Put in whatever you want. There you go. Alright. Give it another go? Yeah. Yeah? Cool. That was the Jack Danger flipper code? Yeah.
    69:40
    All you have to do is shake the game really hard while you're playing, and my name shows up. That's the only thing I have to do. More... Yeah.
    69:52
    I'll go first. Do you enjoy watching people freak out when code updates come? It's great to be able to update post-launch.
    70:06
    Freak out Yeah I like well I don know I play the stuff that I work on and then I try to listen to everybody who plays uh, everything. Yeah, it's hard being... you know, I think it's a little easier being a designer. Yeah, because once you're done, you're done. You can't update the layout anymore. Well, it's just being, like, the whole process, because the way the process works... you know, it's sort of like a pipeline, except that the designers at the beginning of it, and kind of when the designers are done with stuff, that's when the programming and the art and the sounds and everything else happens. And it's like right towards the end, right when the game's about to come out or whatever, that's when the programming is like we're all, whatever, two months across or three months across time. And so I definitely enjoy being able to update the games. Yeah. Yeah, but the designer really has to get a better position, you know, to play the game and to get a real good feel of, like, how it plays and the pacing of the features and the scoring and stuff. So it's always at the worst time for us, like, right when the game's ready to go out, that, you know, you write code, and then you implement features and put assets and whatever in, and then you have to play it, and those things are, like, mutually exclusive.
    71:49
    So... What's the death discount on purchasing? Yeah, well, that's, uh, doesn't matter. Is there a final mode on Batman 66 now?
    71:59
    I mean, there's kind of several final modes in a way. Yeah. There's a wizard mode for the major villains, the villain escape, and then there are three for the minor villains. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Cool.
    72:17
    Internet, if you have any more notes, he's taking them, okay? If you're like, not enough naked pictures of Jack Danger on the game. You can put that in there. Okay, so let's get those questions coming.
    72:31
    Somehow code can turn crappy playing games into great games. I mean, yes, but, like, it is what it is. This was not a crappy playing game by any means. Yeah, the best games are always the ones where every single person and every single discipline knocks it out of the park. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. so and then we all want to buy them for Valley Williams discount price
    73:06
    did find a pinball someone's gonna trip on thank you how you doing Oh, the driver washers? Yeah, I definitely will. I got the washers. That's a back door over there. No. I'm going to start with a pepper and a little bit of meat. I'll be running that down through the grill once and for all.
    73:55
    So are there any games in the past that you have had any say over, like, some physical shots based on, like, the way things might be programmed or the way things, like, maybe a designer wants something to happen as they're still building the game. Is there anything that you've, like, offered input that you've actually changed to, like, make something work better? Oh, like on the plate field and stuff? Yeah, a couple times.
    74:24
    With John Borg on Iron Man and on Metallica. You know, just working through a couple things. But, I mean, I think it happens a lot with everybody. I mean, we get a play field and it's, that was, you know.
    74:44
    A little up and down. Yeah, yeah. So, sloppy. We get a play field and then there's a lot of back and forth. And everybody on the team makes suggestions about, hey, like, this shot's a little corky or we could smooth this out. Or what about moving it over here or getting rid of that. Sure. And, yeah, it's just, you know, it's just part of the design process. When I was in New York with Gary and John, I heard some really interesting things. I don't know how much I'm allowed to share. I'm just not going to share anything. But some really interesting stories about Iron Man and how that game came to be.
    75:17
    Just, like, the design process and the, like, meetings that were had. Yeah, I mean, that was, you know, it was a tough time. Right. It was a tough time for a lot of business owners, Gary and a lot of other people. and then Lonnie and I were just in this rotation of every three months we'd have a game that we had a record and yeah a lot of what the game was and the rules and the choreography entertaining him you know from the stuff that we did and you know John was off doing design, and then we'd be working on, you know, John would be like, okay, here's NBA, and then we'd be doing the code for it, and then once, three months later, we'd get done with the code, and then John would be like, well, here's Big Buck Connors.
    76:22
    Yeah, yeah, so it was just a time where, you know, we were kind of just, okay, here's a play field, here's a play field, here's a play field, and for me, I don't know, I, it's a tough situation. But then when Iron Man came along, once we got to Buck Hunter and we had a little extra time on Buck Hunter, it was kind of like, hey, the next game, can we just sort of sit in a room and talk about a concept and the stuff that we want in a game, instead of just be like, okay, here's the play field. So in that process, I really I think that's the best one because you need people to feel like they have some buy-in on the project. Sure. Like, yeah, give everyone some stake in it so, like, they all want it to succeed.
    77:12
    Iron Man was one of those games that, when it came out, I was still really, really fresh into pinball. And my buddy Nick and I would go to GameWorks in Stromberg, and we'd play in that tournament. And that game went shit on us so hard. Yeah. My buddy's like, we just have to fucking buy this game because we gotta practice it. And we bought it. And I used the pinball browser to replace a lot of sounds with me just making fart noises. But, like, it was, man, that game is so good. So good.
    77:48
    Yeah, at the time, because, you know, I was coming off of Spider-Man and Dark Knight was probably like the start of.
    77:59
    you know, just sort of the economic situation that was happening there where it's like okay, sales and whatever and businesses and stuff yeah, and then it's kind of tough, you know, to go from something like that where you go, okay this is kind of like the game I want to make versus this is a game I have to make and And, yeah, but, I mean, I guess in the end, it doesn't really matter.
    78:34
    Like, in the end, it just has to be fun, right? Yeah. You know, it doesn't matter if you have 50 things in it or five things in it. I mean, it may be, like, all right, you didn't see that.
    78:49
    Are you guys able to hear us talking? I turned the volume down enough so that you should be able to hear it.
    78:54
    Iron Man is definitely one I would like to own. Dude, it's such a good game. And it's such a, it's such a, that game will make you a better pinball player. I know for a fact that machine made me a better pinball player. So, the fill-in multiball, the shots stay lit, and when you make enough of them, it will light the super, and the pin table will rotate to the, to what, the side that it's at now. And you gotta feed it to the atomic pile to collect the super. But, leading up to the super, all the jackpots stay lit the whole time. What an atomic pile. Come on baby. Don't do it to me. I would love that shot. Thank you very much. I think that's one of the things we learned during, you know, probably when Simpsons came out and won the ring. and Family Guy was probably the game that gave us the biggest clue about like, hey, you know, there's more than just the coin-off market. Yeah.
    80:01
    Because Family Guy wasn't so much a license. That was for people, you know, to put in their homes because of what it was. But then, you know, when we did Shrek, it was a totally separate group of people we bought that game versus the first one that we had. Strike is such a hilarious title for a film machine. Yeah. It totally works.
    80:29
    Can I have my 2X play field? That would be awesome. Thank you. For Bat-Turn and 2X. I've been slacking on the Bat-Turn. There's no definitive answer to that question about how do you determine a good score because the scoring on Batman is different from the scoring and Star Wars is different than Guardian. So 100 million on one game could be huge, but it could be small on a different game. You can kind of relate it to, like, the default high scores that are in the machine. Yeah. Because they're kind of sort of on point with, like, where your score should be. The replay score is also a pretty good indicator, too. Yeah. Because that will adjust itself based on how everyone else is playing.
    81:12
    He knows. Cashing out. Feels bad. Oh, not good. Get around there, buddy. You get the dark blue, that's her. The designer determines the difference for the scoring. So some guys like to add a lot of zeros to their scores, and some guys don't. It's really up to the lead designer. Oh, yeah, where the score sits. About, yeah, where the score sits.
    81:40
    I like, you know, attack from Mars is ridiculous. Yeah, the score on attack. I think those were both got it right. They got it right as far as like where I prefer scoring to be. I think like ACBC or Walking Dead are more of like where I prefer scoring to be.
    82:02
    I can see that. I like what you guys did with Spider-Man and Tron. I like the scoring and that feels good too. Yeah. Where, you know, a couple hundred million in Tron is a really good game. Score inflation is real, y'all. Yeah, it'd be nice to chop a zero or two off of that. Yeah. I agree. Now that we're getting into billions, then potentially, like, I feel like, had you not removed the 5X from this game, I could have gotten a trillion in the next month. Absolutely. Could have gotten a trillion. Yeah.
    82:32
    I think, what was it? I think my highest score ever on any pinball machine was Johnny Mamanis. I had 400 billion. 400 billion? 400 billion. Yeah. 398. Oh, gee. I don't know about that. Yeah. But I don't know. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I remember Heggie put up like a hundred something billion on my attack from Aras years ago. I forget what he had. And then you banned him from your house forever? I had to do a playfield swap on that game just so I had an excuse to erase my scores. I'm like, new playfield, new scores! Game rolls at 10 billion It's hard to get, it's hard to count after a while. Oh, sure. Yeah.
    83:20
    Oh, no, I got my line. I think in the end, people just, like, their brain looks at the first digit. Yeah, and they're just like, I got a 10. No, like Game of Thrones. Or I got a 5. Game of Thrones is probably a good example. Like, I got a 2 or I got a 4 or, you know, whatever it is. Everything else is just noise.
    83:40
    Yeah. question for Lyman is there a game you didn't like programming I don't know if that's an answer to the question I think it's fair or couldn't wait for that project to be finished um yeah I don't know um yeah right yeah no it's a tough one well so I um I enjoy like working with designers from the beginning where we all sort of decide what we're doing.
    84:14
    And when I'm helping on a project, that's sort of the situation where I'm kind of like, I mean, I can help out, but I'd rather be lead on a project than helping somebody else out. Sure. So.
    84:31
    I typed in the code and said my name. Oh, come on. Yeah. But yeah, some projects are more fun than others. You know, working with Steve on ACDC was super fun because I had been away from him for a little bit and then Steve and I get along pretty well. He, you know, we collaborate from the beginning, and then he kind of trusts me to make it up. Yeah, like not screw it up.
    85:09
    So, and, yeah, even though we only had like four months to, or I had four months. I didn't really have any help on that game, code-wise, but like four months to get the game into production and on the line. still like it was super fun just because I had a lot of time off to think about what I want to do with the game that was a little different and you know it's still hopefully fun I do not own any machines that Lyman has coded I need to find an Ironman you do is Lyman's Lament in the Monster Bash remake yeah as far as we know I mean the code should be the exact same no Lyman said F no dude yeah alright gentlemen what do you say we play one more sounds good yeah well Mike let's see if you can put it up alright put up or shut up are there any other pinball game codes that alter the game play like Lyman's Lament oh like Easter yeah but that like alter like alter the game while you're playing it. So, like, Limey's Lament, as you know, like, as you hit shots, it's you saying shit.
    86:32
    Is there anything that you've coded that does... Like, do you have another code you could type in and it's just you making mouth noises for all the shots? I don't know the secret code you entered for Limey's Lament. It was you just shoot that scoop in my mouth. You could type in a code, though. Oh, was there a backdoor? Yeah, you could. Yeah, it wouldn't give you any of the points with it, but it would... You got the fun noises from it. Yeah.
    87:02
    Internet, I'm going to start making ROMs for all the Stern games where I'm recreating all the sound effects and callouts with just my mouth. Okay?
    87:11
    And then you can install those on your games and void your warranty. Okay, here we go. For informing the world about Lime's Lament? Yeah, there you go. doctor now. Oh, that was Gomez's idea? That's awesome. That was a fun idea. Don't do it. Okay, there we go. Don't do it. You could do that with, okay, cool. I'm not going to read that. There it is. Come on, Catwoman. Ooh, answered. I prefer Catwoman as my major villain, folks, because the music is calming, and it keeps you chill as you're doing all your deep minor villain stuff. It goes a very long way. Oh, you turd. Double turds.
    88:20
    And now in Chicago it is five minutes to six. Yeah, this is about the time that we start to go live typically, but we will not be live for much longer.
    88:38
    Get in there. There we go. Oh, it didn't go all the way through. We good, we good. Did your iron part man game still exist somewhere? It is actually, so Gavin bought it from us, didn't update the code and it is out there in the world somewhere. Parting at the same time as the bar. Yeah, and one of the warning call outs is me like saying, just assuming it was my friend Dave shaking the game, so just always blaming him for getting the warning. 1 a.m. I'd be sleeping before 1 a.m.
    89:23
    1 a.m. That's when Jack's usually going out. You ain't wrong. I bet on a different do it, Jack.
    89:37
    I'm going to sleep when he's about to go out. Lots of monster energy, folks. You? I'm not that much younger than you, my man. What?
    89:54
    What are you, like, 41? 49. That's a gross, that's like that weird, gross sexual move. After you, brother.
    90:05
    49, dude. I think it involves a chair. Yeah. You want a Venture Brothers pinball machine? That'd be cool.
    90:17
    I will see what I can do to get Jack to Seattle for the show this year. Nice. I demand that because we heard a no worker at a factory. Wait, what? Club, what are you talking about? Welcome aboard. Yo, Grono861. Thank you for eight months in a row. You're amazing. Lyman Rocks and Jack, glad to see you're still standing after all the traveling. Thank you, buddy.
    90:37
    It's been a lot of travel. Yeah. Sounds like it. Yeah, if you folks have never heard of Lyman's Lament or, like, heard it happen, I'm sure you can, like, look it up somewhere. God, fuck!
    90:58
    To make your game go quicker for the Flip Frenzy Tournament, it was set to no ball save, no tilt warnings. Oh!
    91:04
    No tilt warnings? Is this me? Yeah. I mean, that's fair. I guess. No tilt warnings, man. Lyman's sketching my silhouette right now. Oh, great, turn the lights off on us. Okay, ball, come back to me. So, now that, okay, nailed it. Oh, we got rejected. That never happens to me. Okay, our TV is lit. And I did it a freaking Again, I keep trying to do like a late...
    91:51
    What was that, falsetto? Sodas go down, the scores start to fluctuate. It is. You got to have a soda, my man. I know you don't drink soda. Wait, do you drink soda? Well, usually no, but I did break my own rule when I was in Nashville. Yeah? I had three stars. Damn!
    92:20
    My new rule might be I only have photos at shows. Occasional. The occasional show. Occasional, like one a night. One a night at a show. Yeah. Oh, okay.
    92:31
    Mine is several a night, every night. Yeah. Those are lots of people drinking sodas at shows. Yeah, buddy.
    92:41
    We were discussing TPF, and I remembered we have a great clip of you signing my forehead on one of the things we did. I think I got a more code tattoo. Oh, yeah. I don't know where I was, so I got that. Yeah. You were in the booth. Had that somewhere. Somebody tattooed me up. You have that.
    93:05
    Great code, Wyman. Love your work. Keep it up, says Vu. Thank you, Vu. Do you have places that you go for inspiration? Just good ball ideas, Lyman. My office is one of them. Yeah.
    93:19
    Outside is good. Outside. Looking at the birds, kicking rocks around. Yeah. No, usually just getting to break is good. Very nice. Lyman, do you need an apprentice?
    93:37
    Yeah. Yeah, sure. Sure. I'm older than Mike, so probably. He's older than me, but he's in far better shape than me. Wiley Joe, thank you for four months in a row. You're amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, show some love and chat, please.
    93:57
    Let's do that. All right. This is it. Ball three, dude. I love the guy. The pinball apprentice. Life and cheese. Yeah, let's make a TV show out of it. That would be pretty fun. It's like you have three hours to program a pinball machine. Give me one mode that looks amazing. The 25 rules of pinball design. Let's go. Yeah, I think one time, I think Joe came up with that one. Oh really? At X-Ball, he did a seminar where everybody in the seminar could play. It was a while ago now. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Did he make any of them? No, I don't think so. All of them. No. I don't know what year it was. Yeah, no, it was... These are awesome. These are bad. I know. We might have to redeem ourselves, actually. I know. beam ourselves, actually.
    95:09
    It's so quiet in here. Wow. Nice. Especially since we can't even hear the game either. It's just like, we have zero game audio over here, by the way.
    95:20
    Does that mean that Lyman is coding the dead flip pinball machine? Yep, you heard it here first, folks. Go spread it on pin side.
    95:35
    There you go. Oh yeah, Mike's coming back. Yeah. He's finding a shot. I only have one in my office and in my house. And I worked on it for the last long time with Lyman. Nothing good can come from the phrase, go spread it on the inside. Yeah, sorry guys. That's true. Hey, my center thing isn't registering here. A hackathon pinball machine would be kinda cool to be honest, have a pre-built white wood with no beam and every team has to program a mode in 24 hours, something like that. Holy shit, that sounds fun. Actually. Because they do that for all sorts of products, like cars and stuff like that. That'd be awesome for a pinball machine. It's good programmer training. Yeah.
    96:19
    That'd be great. I mean, ideally, you'd start with a blank piece of paper. A programmer would be in the room contributing ideas. Yeah, buddy. I think what they're saying is give them a pinball machine that works and the like the API and Tell them to just program a cool mode you have 24 hours. They're like impress me. Yeah
    96:43
    That didn't work that didn't make sense Get up there didn't go feels bad All right TV between you hearing the game or the earbuds? Yeah.
    97:03
    It is now. Yep. Well, the reason being, if you guys got direct audio and then we got audio, you'd get an echo if we had a microphone. Yeah. So, uh... I think he's played these games 5,000 times. Yeah. He's played a lot of pinball in my short pinball career, ladies and gentlemen. I think I'm catching up with some of the people that have been playing their whole life just because I play every fucking day. Okay, let's get some mystery awards, some multipliers, let's let the ball drain because I suck at spin ball.
    97:36
    Alright, we got another TV, let's go, that miss, feel that. Whew, that was close. Okay, we're going to do this, since this is ball three, we're just going to go, we're We're going in, folks.
    97:57
    Yes. That counts. Uh-oh. Crap. Why am I just going to change a bunch of shit on it? Well, you shouldn't get penalized for... That's right.
    98:14
    No penalizing me, please. Fall in. Nooooooo! Yes! Oh god. Okay. I hate the shot. Oh god, I hate the shot.
    98:36
    Climax sneaks out a phone and starts effing with the game. Yeah, right. He's got some secret phone shit in the game. He's like, no. Beep boop beep. Wow, that was... Yeah, I mean, it'd be fun to do, but as soon as you get called out, you're done. Yeah, right.
    98:56
    I always thought it'd be cool to give, like, technicians or operators a code they could type in to put a free credit on the game so they don't have to, like, open it and give themselves a credit. But that would be exploited so hard, so quick.
    99:11
    Are you done, Mr. Frizz? Wyman's literally over here taking notes as fast as possible. All right, we got... Hold on, we'll switch.
    99:32
    We got to shoot that right orbit, which is also going to start multiball. Yeah, if you can do that, you can make it sit. Yeah, we're going to be sitting pretty.
    99:41
    Oh. Hey, why'd you take that? Oh, yeah. Sorry, Mike. It's okay. Apparently you've been playing this game way more than me. A little bit. Frickin' hit the frickin' fridge, dude! No, no! It's because the flip... Oh, there you go. The flippers are angled up a little bit. Yeah, the angles of the flippers are kind of strange, because they're up just a little bit more. He is not jailed yet, folks, because you can see that there's no...
    100:14
    Okay, this should jail him shortly. That shot was needed. Then we just need to go up the ramp. We've got seconds. Tons of seconds. Do you have like four points left? Had to do it, man. Now we got our shot multiplier. Okay, we need to cradle up here.
    100:42
    Go up the fucking ramp, dude! Alright, yeah, no kidding. I hate when it does it. does it? Okay, can I keep a ball in play? That would be awesome. Okay, now we need...
    100:56
    Yeah, you're frozen. Got it. Oh, I think I was ready for my... You're frozen at 3x. We do have 3x? Good. Oh, I love you, baby. Oh, I love you, baby. Don't do it. Woo! We're taking that.
    101:15
    Okay, moving on. The angle of the dangle, exactly. No, not good. Okay. I do have two warnings, so I've got to be careful. All right, now that we have Mr. Freeze, I think we've played Increase Bat, Hurry Up, Awesome. I think we've played both of our streams already. No. I love you. I love this game. Boo.
    101:41
    Ok, we answered the Riddler. Everything's good, everything's fine. That was beautiful. Now we just gotta make one shot to the left for Beto. Nailed it, just kidding. Damn, I hate it when I can't make shots. You can backhand that ramp. You can do it every time. The right ramp, yes. The left ramp, I don't know what you're talking about. I can backhand the left ramp. Really? Yeah, that's the way to do it. That's crazy.
    102:13
    Don't do it. I almost freaking screwed myself again. Alright. There it is. Feels good. Selective coldness. I'm sorry. Why doesn't Mr. Freeze freeze the ball save timer?
    102:35
    Then the game would never end, of course. Oh right. That would be interesting. Ball save time and run. You would have to play until you were too bored to keep playing. Yeah, there you go. The ball save time is too hot.
    103:07
    I got to keep going. Build it up. You put it up there for me. Yeah, maybe. Right here. That works. Oh.
    103:22
    I don't know. Yeah. I got to hit that. Hit it. Wow. Hit it. Anything. That earplugs. No, it's true. It's three shots. Come on. He's trying to get out of it. Oh, no. Don't do it. Come on. Hit it. Oh, God.
    103:46
    That nudged him. Trying to get out of the tiger lair. You know what? I got to do this. I got to. I got to do that chain. Yeah. It needs some points. All right. Get that out of here.
    104:03
    I don't know what you're talking about, man. I like the... it's funny. Alright. I need some multiplier here.
    104:15
    Yep. I need a... ...f***ing mirror. Nice! Alright. Get some TV. I love that the Batmobile spinner on this thing is rolling so hard by just stepping sideways. It's like if it had a middle finger and it rolled in the air, it would be shot down. Yeah, that's fine. It's good you got it.
    104:40
    What's up, Gamer Me? Good to see you, buddy. There you go. That was a good play. Oh, no. No Oh that was ugly Would the gadget have done anything for you It would have scored the next... It would have scored one of the... One of the shots.
    105:28
    Is there a website with the status on the Twitch pinball machine? Oh, GamerMe. It's not a Twitch pinball machine anymore.
    105:38
    Lyman did that so I didn't feel bad. Yeah, I know. Lyman did that so I didn't feel bad. I don't know how to warn you. All right. Who wants this? Give me some initials. RKS. There you go, buddy.
    105:48
    You're welcome. RKS, not RJS. R-K-S. There you go, bub. Boom. High score number two. All right. Stern factory floor. Poor Lyman. Hey, JetFlip, Eric Stone put $16 billion on my location.
    106:05
    That's pretty good. Eric Stone is a top tier player. Eric's an incredible football player. I think, I mean, I don't chase the Whopper Dragon, but I think I'm sitting at like a thousand.
    106:18
    I've got to play more tournaments is what I've got to do. Yeah, you don't play in any tournaments. I don't play anywhere. In a draw.
    106:24
    I've got to get back up there. Well, gentlemen, do you want to call it or do you want to play another one? It's up to you.
    106:29
    All the pretty? Yeah, let's go. Here's the thing. I'm in no hurry to go anywhere. I just don't want to keep you guys. I'm not either. Yeah. I'll do one more, and then I've got to get back to work. All right. Lyman, I'll let you go first. All right. Another sparkling day. We got the music.
    106:46
    Back to work. This is work, man. This is work. It is totally. That's Bill and Ted gaming. What? Come on.
    106:57
    Is that what that is? The code name is SoCrate. Yeah, it's SoCrate. SoCrate, let's go. That is freaking hilarious, man. SoCrate. That's pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta get back to work. No, I thought it was gonna be called Circle K. So great? It's not Circle K? It's not Circle K. Alright. So good. Okay.
    107:18
    This is good. Yeah, I should play more tournaments. I just, like, when tournaments go on, it's usually in the evening, and that's when the show is. So I can't break away.
    107:32
    They start too early for Jack. He doesn't get out till 1 a.m. You guys have those, yeah, those one in the morning pinball tournaments. I'm all over it. I might just start running my own and see if anyone shows up.
    107:46
    The highest ranked Parsons, nice. I might be the highest ranked Danger. So, Lyman, what is the largest value you've built up your bat phone to? You know, I was just thinking about that.
    108:01
    Let's figure it out. I think Josh Sharp built it up to some gross of certain numbers. You did a billion plus here. What? He's playing a game with me. My best was like 600-something billion.
    108:14
    Oh, shit. I was bragging about it within 10 minutes. Yeah. It's like you're just a top game. You're not allowed to have this. Yeah. He took away my fame. What is it? Does it double every time you hit it? Every time you hit it? Well, so it goes up by the old value plus a little bit more. Okay. So it will not be linear. Okay, cool. Yeah.
    108:40
    Yeah, he does that to me a lot, too. I'll go to lunch, and I'll come back, and the games in my office will have you higher score. Oh, what a nerd. He did while I was away. Yeah.
    108:52
    No, don't do that. I'm not ready for it yet. Do that. There you go. Yeah, it's all four. Ooh, increased backbone, hurry up. We're here in a matter of great urgency. Beep. Yeah, it's every other one once you settle into it and then, uh... Don't make me do it. You know what? I'm going... I'm... Internet, I'm bringing my full blowout straight on this game. Okay. Full blowout. out. Technically you can leave to play tournaments but you just won't get paid. Yes, exactly.
    109:32
    Go on man. I gotta take it. No code update if Jack wins again, he's fired from the String Factory forever. Okay. What is that? Oh. No, it's because of the screen. Oh yeah, yeah. It's because of the screen. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know how to look over there. It's all good. Yeah, the way I... Now look it over there. The way my capture box works is it takes the screen off of the game. So it's a little distracting. Pulls it off to the side.
    110:01
    I was player two. You can be player two. I'll go, sir. Yeah, you will. You just set up a page. Okay.
    110:10
    Okay. I hear that man I it's all those pinch hitters you guys are funny cause like I don't know my baseball is like my favorite thing of course the Red Sox yeah so yeah you say tension i'm like it's i don't know one of my favorite things to do when i come out this turn is go to portillo's and get a crap load of hot dogs on my way home but now that i'm on a freaking diet like an idiot i'm like trying to decide if i need to develop some sort of cheat day oh you totally should uh because dude freaking port chicago style hot dogs from portillo's are the absolute best.
    111:08
    I usually get three because I'm a big boy. And as a growing man, growing child, man child, I would love this ball to go in that hole.
    111:19
    Damn it. Screwed up. Eat it. Eat like seven hot dogs. Do it. I bet you won't. Bet you won't. Yeah, Fort Tillman's is like a once a week thing for you. It's like a once every six months thing for me. Yeah, exactly. It's so good, though. I love you. Don't you chill. Right, Angler.
    111:48
    Spaced it is. Crap. All right, it's all you. Hey, it's only ball one. It's only ball one. Yeah, chubby. Eat that hot dog. You like it. The funny thing is, he's on a diet, but he's like two shirt sizes smaller than me. We have a septic company named Lowe Brothers. Do I get extra points for what's in there? You need a 30, though. I did that too. It was over on the top. There's already a turd emoji. You can put it in chat. I'm just gonna go ahead and just type boot. Where's my, where's my chat? Damn, this internet, this stream looks gorgeous. It's all about that direct video. Yeah, man.
    112:46
    So, you enjoy all your travel? It's a blast, man. It's just, uh, this month was, uh, it was like a... Uh, just a little too much. Yeah, a little too much. Like, I think I was home for like five days.
    113:00
    Yeah, I was kind of all over the place. But it was all for the greater good of the show and pinball and made a lot of new friends. It was pretty cool.
    113:12
    My internet's out at my studio, so instead of streaming pinball, I just streamed off of my cell phone, grabbed a bunch of random strangers off of the internet that watch my show, picked them up in my car, drove them up to level 257, and we just got drunk. It was a redemption game. And I think I spent a hundred fucking dollars on redemption games. Why is your internet out? Because Comcast is the worst. Internet, don't use Comcast. Is that from the snowstorm? Yeah. The snowstorm was like over a week ago. Well, you know, it's Comcast. Way to go, Comcast.
    113:48
    But the internet here at Stern is amazing. You run some tests, like the, not the ping, but the frickin', what's that number? Goddammit, I don't know internet stuff. Anyway.
    114:11
    Latency here is like four milliseconds. Like, if I tell you to write the word poop, it's your poop. Oh, shit.
    114:23
    See? Okay, done. Can I get all almost 200 people in chat to write the word poop, please? Thank you very much.
    114:37
    Oh, no. That ball almost... It went out. It does. There's an evil voodoo curse on the call. There's the quality chat the internet comes to read. Everyone type in the word.
    114:56
    Yeah, please, let's go. If he can do it, anyway. Poop, I'm a rebel. I wrote it backwards. Oh, you're so close. You just need to vote. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but don't do that, though. Oh, come on. Oh, no. Oh, I got boned. Can he do it? He got the bat turn. He got the two-way. He's got block shot. Oh, my. That'll do. That'll do, pig.
    115:33
    Did you say that'll do, pig? That'll do, pig? You don't remember the movie, Babe? I haven't seen that in years. That'll do, pig. That's like the only thing anyone remembers from that anime. Yeah, the grumpy old farmer. Aw, that was the secret. Phase 2. He was delicious.
    116:04
    Man, Mike is going up right now. I know. Yeah, Bahram U. See, Usher knows this stuff. Five bucks says that movie does not hold up. Oh. Where's all my other balls? I don't know. It's kind of bullshit, man. This is like you put balls up there during multiple. Oh, I had the anaball, and it wasn't serving them to me. Yeah. No, I got it. I had to find it and it took forever for it to serve me.
    116:43
    It's like it was waiting for a display effect to get in. This is sweet. Yes. Sweet. So you're flipping off.
    117:01
    Jack, I messaged you that Facebook Messenger if you guys want to check it out. Oh. Man! Okay, I'll look at it.
    117:14
    That is a... that is a picture of your... oh wait, what's your name? Oh, you didn't send me that. Okay.
    117:25
    Oh, come on. Here's a clip of the bar. Uh, okay, cool. I guess we have a clip of our fish protein for the... Oh, okay. I got it.
    117:38
    I mean, realistically, yeah. Is it, like, bothering you? I guess you could just scale it up a little.
    117:48
    It's the one with the red van in front of the courthouse, I guess. People eating tasty animals. Follow Piva. Man, you guys are a good team.
    118:06
    There's a wrong one tonight. Folks, do me a favor. At the top right-hand side of your screen, above this screen, you'll see, there's a button that says Follow. Make sure that's clicked. Then there's a button that says Subscribe. If you click it right now, a dropdown will show up. Nothing will happen, just a dropdown. Click it, and if it says you have a free sub, that means you've connected your Amazon Prime to your Twitch account, and you get to financially support me and it doesn't cost you a dime.
    118:35
    I don't see a follow button. Even I did it. See? Mike did it. My man. I won't spend money on anything. I stuffed records and Italian beef sandwiches. Four kilos. Yeah. I just unfollowed and unsubscribed. Yay! Thank you, Scribble.
    118:53
    I will continue, Joker. 30. Ooh! He's got a lot of money sitting on the table. when he collects this if you need to multiply on that you gotta multiply that you only have two more shots to go on that target which one? oh no you need five more I need five more I gotta wait I would shoot for it get a multiball I know I need to get a multiball Ladies and gentlemen, I need to talk to Jeffree Star about getting a Taco Bell sponsorship.
    119:33
    Yeah, I'd just say that. Well, actually, that ramp is... Oh, no! The money! There was so much money sitting on the table. That ramp, like, yeah. You're at $24 million off that ramp. Oh, my God. You would have been at almost $3 million.
    119:52
    Who was first? $36 million versus $23 million. I think you were first. You were first probably. You were points either too, yeah. Who went first on this game, Internet? The stream broke Taco Bell site. It's true. Oh, when I streamed Jeffrey's start, yeah. That stream did break Taco Bell site. That was awesome. Thank you.
    120:15
    That's what Taco Bell gets when it usually breaks. Yo quiero flip en Taco Bell. You chewed over the switch, huh? It's a lot. This pin is a lot like a casino roulette table. All that money.
    120:33
    Welcome aboard, kid. Yeah, see, I should... Yo, AU Crout, for eight months in a row, you're amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, flippers and butts, thank you, buddy. Boy, no pixel. What's up, buddy?
    120:51
    Yeah, Mike fucking cheated, dude. Yeah, thank you, buddy. I got in and ordered Presley some Taco Bell PJs that night. Next day sold out. Yeah. I have Jeffrey sending me a Taco Bell onesie that I will never take off.
    121:13
    You know, we can't let Mike win. I don't know. Mike's all right. Yeah, he's an all right guy. But, you know. Mike just gave it up, too. I have standards. I have standards of who I lose to.
    121:29
    Alright, so we're going to take this. Yeah, but he was talking so much shit. No one's ever deserved getting crapped on so hard. We love Waston, but he deserves that big bad game we play.
    121:45
    I did not mean to flip that. Thanks, Finger, for doing your own thing. There, that didn't go in. That didn't go in. That didn't go in. There's the TV. So we're gonna start with Bookworm. We're gonna start with Bookworm. We're gonna finish Bookworm. We're gonna start Mr. Freeze. We're gonna finish Mr. Freeze. I just want to embarrass everybody hearing. So we need to make one shot at the turntable. Let's hear it. Give it a little pop. Give it a little soda. Give it a lot. Oh my god, that was faster than I wanted it to be.
    122:47
    Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! I always think I want Taco Bell, too, until I eat there. But I just can't put my regret on it. No, what do you regret? Man, I don't think you've ever had Taco Bell. Oh, that is scary. My man. Oh, George! Box O'Parts. Ladies and gentlemen, Gomez hooking it up with the Box O'Parts. My man, thank you so much, brother. I think I got everything on your list. I love it. I said, this is... This is pinball Santa essentially ladies and gentlemen. My man just on the floor is great. Thank you so much my man
    123:20
    Awesome, I'm coming back Friday anyway, just hang out for a little bit, but I'll give you a holler Yeah, dude, we're just drinking some adult sodas and having a good time
    123:33
    Got you All right, brother, you guys have fun. I'm in love you brother Gorge? I have to go to dinner with Gary. Alright, see you, Gorge.
    123:48
    Alright, I just blew through some of my time there for... That ball... That's gone. Frickin' turds, man.
    123:58
    Kiss the gate! Okay, we have three more shots. Can we do it in 11 seconds with the multi-ball? Unbox the box. Internet. In there will be some star rollovers, a Metallica inline three bank.
    124:26
    I got six seconds to make the freaking hardest shot in the game. Nailed it. Okay, right here. One and done. That's it. Okay, we got it. So, progress has been made. We got bookworm completed. Now we want to do Mr. Freeze, and I have to play like I'm fricking walking on eggshells.
    124:47
    Again folks, if you haven't been following the build, you'll see why I needed those parts. It's gonna be so good.
    124:57
    My homie gowmy. Okay, trap. Trap up. Next TV shot's lit. Let's collect nothing. Feels bad. What am I doing? Unbox the box. Oh, you turtle. Okay, we gotta do Mr. Freeze Nice. So that should... Okay, it's not gonna auto-collect. We're good. What happened to the Twitch pin? It turned into an original theme, but it's gonna be good, I guarantee. It's a Louisiana themed commotion.
    125:37
    Just kidding. Gamer Me, you can look on my Instagram, Twitch, Facebook, everywhere to see what the game has become.
    125:50
    Come on, dude. I hit that. Oh, I did hit that. It registered. We're going for it. All right. We're going for it.
    126:03
    Oh, come on, don't do it. Don't do it. I wanted that backhand. That ball is good. Two X's almost ready.
    126:16
    I can't shake it because I have two warnings. So here's the thing. Because I didn't finish Mr. Freeze, he's done. But we can play Mad Hatter, finish him, then dip back into Mr. Freeze. See you later. Jack, is the art your vision for the theme? A hundred percent.
    127:06
    It's so good. When I watch Dead Flip, I wear no pants. I would assume that everyone is not wearing pants right now. Thank you. We're all good. We're all pantsless here.
    127:25
    I'm kidding. It's too cold. Okay. I'm wearing a thong. Wow this guy got off the rails. Ladies and gentlemen do you have any more questions for Lyman Cheats while we're still live? Good, get this fool out of here. You're cut off. I'm cut off. Dammit.
    127:53
    That's what the Star Roller is for? questions for me I'm happy to answer. Dude those are crazy looking they're like self-contained little dealies. Oh those are the scar rollovers. Those are awesome. Yes there it is internet. The Metallica 3 bank inline. Let's go.
    128:16
    George, you spoiled me, buddy. The double wide target skill shot target from Iron Maiden. And just your basic little wire gate to stop the ball from going back in the shooter lane.
    128:36
    Uh, Kai Bloodtown, yeah, I'll give you a close-up of him. Will Skern ever publish all the service menu settings in PDF form since it's no longer in the manual? Huh. I think Skern needs to hire me to create a new backend menu system. Design one, I can say. The dot matrix is fun. Let's make something sexy now that we have an LCD screen. Yeah, we always wanted more room, but the dot matrix came to doing the test. Yeah, yeah.
    129:19
    Obviously. I mean, I created a backend menu system, a successful one, for another company. Lyman, just want to thank you for all the gems and code you've done throughout the years. The Walking Dead is still hands down my favorite. I actually just shot 813 million on it. Well, just short of last man standing. Wow, Chris, that's huge.
    129:53
    Yeah, that game, the pacing with all of the modes and everything, and it was like, I don't know, it ended up all right in the right spot, pretty much. So every time I do something in the game, I always feel like I'm pretty close to doing something else that's different. And I don't know, that's what I like most about it. Walking Dead, plus it's zombie, so. Yeah, Walking Dead was a very transformative game for me when it came out versus what it became.
    130:24
    Yeah. I love that game. We had some challenges working on the game early on, I'm sure. Yeah. So... He had to move his drink to the other floor. It's alright. We got it. I'm doing okay. Yeah, we're good. We got a hundred and eight... A hundred and eight seems... Any behind the scenes stories about people you work with you care to talk about? Question mark? Ehhhh... I don't know. No. I don't know no Dee and Richie like to get his steps in around the factory yeah he does he stabbed my friend what? he stabbed my friend once Brad oh no at the Star Wars launch party at Expo did he say he stabbed him? yeah we were standing in line to play in the tournament and he went to show this cool knife that he had and as he flicked it out he like stabbed my buddy Brad in the stomach and just said oh you're gonna be fine and continue to show us the back. It's pretty cool.
    131:24
    It's a great pitfall story. Everyone's fine. But, you know, broke the skin. What are you going to do? Yeah.
    131:33
    The Walking Dead Premium was my first new in box. Nice, dude. Dwight Sullivan has like what is it called when you're oh doomsday preparation amounts of water in his room I thought that was me oh you also have like all that water Dwight's got doomsday preparation Diet Coke. Diet Coke, there you go. Jody would always come in my office and tell me I had... Yeah.
    132:15
    It's like, if the zombies actually really come, I'm coming into your office and shaking all your water. Pinball is too violent. We need to ban it. Yeah, I guess you're right.
    132:25
    Shut it down. You know, I've played this game so much, like, I don't need the audio. It's like sort of in the background of my head a little bit. Right. You kind of know it, right? Yeah.
    132:43
    Maybe we can get New York to reenact its ban on pens. What are you guys talking about? Yeah, crazy. Crazy talk.
    132:54
    You just want Roger Sharp to go back and make another skill set. Yeah. I think we need to rename LaGuardia Airport to Roger Sharp Airport. the Batclimb scene, will that be included any time in the future?
    133:09
    Batclimb. So, Batclimb. What happened with Batclimb? So, originally when we were working on the game I had a thought for Batclimb in regards to the people who were in on the Super Elite. So, 318 we can't let him win yeah well it was all in my bag because the other two were garbage yeah so we couldn't use any of the other actors in the show like Sammy Davis Jr. and everybody else who was doing cameos for the back line and then so I wanted to have you know other people in there saying funny things and whatever else and then so you came up with the guys in the art department ended up doing like this sort of template where you could record yourself and then they could take the video and put them in yeah and actually Ed Robertson did like a ton of really funny stuff and then In the end, when it got over to licensing or whatever else, it was like, yeah, you guys did too much. Yeah. You're like adding people to the canon of the Batman universe. Yeah. And then, so, yeah, and then so it just sort of stayed that way for a while. And the other mode for that, I mean, the mode for that was just going to be those guys doing, you know, saying funny stuff. Yeah. It's also like a cool way to get people who put in for the SLEs to get them into the game. And then also, even if they didn't have their game anymore or sold it or whatever, you could see what other people did. So maybe the game would be like, oh, this is so-and-so's game, so-and-so's throwdown most of the time. But then every once in a while it would show somebody else. What kind of goofy stuff did they do? It was just like one of those ideas that, yeah, I mean, if we could have done it, it probably would have been pretty fun. That's awesome.
    135:31
    Yo, middleman for four months in a row, thank you for maintaining membership of the League of Amazing Ladies and Gentlemen. Flip us some butts up. That'd be cool. That's a great idea. Some of the Batman villains that we have nowadays that never existed back in the day, it would be cool to see them reimagined in the Batman 60s style, like Bane, for instance. what would that look like?
    135:57
    One-eyed bandit. Beep, beep. Where do you play this? Did you play, like, player two or player three? I think he played my ball, too. No, I didn't. I think he did. I didn't. That was in player three. I don't know. I think he just qualified. I think, actually, yeah. Yeah, see Jack, I backhanded that right round. Yeah, full score doesn't count. So you guys are sore losers. I think you played out of order. I get one over on you once in a while and you guys get all mad. It's not like I'm wasting, Ryan. I'm still throwing an entire population of them. One of our own 50 saves. Oh man. Yeah, it's a back climb.
    136:51
    Still on the list. Would you just have to, like, you would just have to pick and choose sparingly the clips that you would be able to use? Yeah, I can't use anything, though. That's the thing. Yeah, because we don't have to use anything. Yeah, I have an alternate idea for it. It's just, yeah, there can't be, you know, no cameos allowed. Right.
    137:14
    I guess I'm still holding out for maybe two cameos. Think about a time at this point. We'll just call up Sammy Davis Jr.
    137:24
    At heaven? Yes. You don't have that phone? I don't have that. I don't have heaven. There's an IFPA Beatles launch party tomorrow. Oh, December 15th. Oh, cool. Yeah, Professor Rodriguez, I streamed it last Friday from New York City.
    137:43
    New York City? He's just showing off at this point, folks. Oh, man. Did the licensors of any given title ever interfere with the code or feature updates? at what point in the process do they no longer have a say?
    138:07
    Well, they always have a say. There you go. They probably always have a say. Yeah, but some of what we do is a lot of times we'll get things approved ahead of time. So we'll batch up a bunch of stuff and then we'll set it off for approvals. And, you know, we'll put in what we can or we'll leave out what we can't. but, you know, so sometimes things will come out after the fact. Yeah. You know, we'll already have the approvals to put the things in the games, and then, you know, it's like, okay. Whoops.
    138:41
    All right, gentlemen. Well, I think we'll call it there. Folks, thank you so much for letting Mike type in his freaking name. Oh, no. Who is that? Player one. That was you, Lyle.
    138:53
    He's going to put in his name. Thank you all for being here. This was fun. It was an early stream. I hope that's okay.
    139:00
    Tomorrow we're going to be back at the studio. Maybe we'll go on location. I'm not quite sure yet. Because I will have all my gear packed up. Sure, maybe we'll go on location tomorrow night. We'll go find a game at a bar and get crazy. Chocky, thank you for that sub. You're beautiful, ladies and gentlemen. Flippers and butts.
    139:17
    Big shout out to Lyman. Thank you so much for doing this with us, man. Folks, let me just get all the hearts and claps in chat if you could. make sure you go find a Batman 66 wherever it is make sure the code is updated 1.0 it's out and it's got a lot going on on it if you ever find an ACDC or a Metallica or any of those games just know that this gentleman is responsible for those games being fun so I love you all thank you for sticking around Mike, this is Mike Vinacore he's the jerk that just GCD'd the game How dare you He played my ball He disqualified Doesn't matter He's never streaming with us again I'm sorry Okay guys Have a wonderful night I love you And I will see you tomorrow Okay Goodbye Bye internet I might visit Stern soon with a friend Hell yeah Alright Shutting it