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Cary Hardy·video·39m 46s·analyzed·Apr 16, 2021
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TL;DR

Carrie Hardy addresses Pinside criticism of his harsh pinball game reviews.

Summary

Carrie Hardy responds to a trending Pinside forum thread criticizing his YouTube reviews, specifically his negative assessments of Led Zeppelin and Stranger Things Stern pinballs. Hardy defends his review methodology, clarifies misconceptions about his influence and financial motivations, and acknowledges both valid and invalid criticisms while maintaining that his honest opinions—not personal acting—drive his content.

Key Claims

  • Carrie Hardy only played Led Zeppelin Pro, not Premium or LE, and stated this in his video

    high confidence · Hardy directly addresses the original poster's claim about playing LE: 'I only played the pro. I did not comment further on the premium or LE because that's all I've played.'

  • Led Zeppelin Pro is 'stripped down' and 'bare' without the wire form return ramp

    high confidence · Hardy: 'led zeppelin pro is stripped down it's freaking bear... if they would have left the wire form return ramp on that side shot then i would be much more okay with the pro'

  • Stranger Things is Brian Eddy's worst game compared to his previous designs

    high confidence · Hardy states: 'I think it's his worst [game]. Is it the worst game? No. But if you're wanting to pinpoint a designer, I feel that, in my experience with the game thus far, that is his worst one.'

  • Hardy does not make a living from YouTube or pinball content

    high confidence · Hardy: 'I do not make a living doing pinball stuff and or YouTube. There is no way that I could make a living, nor would I even want to... YouTube does not pay my bills. It barely fills up even the tank of my car and gas.'

  • Hardy receives emails and messages from viewers asking for his opinion before purchasing games

    high confidence · Hardy confirms: 'I do get emails, messages. People contact me for my thoughts about certain games, whether it be they should go for the pro or premium on particular titles'

  • Hardy's main complaint with Stranger Things is the layout/playfield design, not the code

    high confidence · Hardy: 'my main complaint with Stranger Things was just the layout in general it wasn't the code I wasn't having fun with how the game shot that was me so I don't think that code is going to fix that for me'

  • Hardy has never explicitly told people not to buy a game, only shares his opinions

    high confidence · Hardy: 'I have never told people to not buy a game i merely just talk about a game and how i feel about it my thoughts and opinions'

Notable Quotes

  • “I'm all about freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want. My only problem is if people are lying. That is where I have to feel like I step in and need to say something.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 1:15 — Establishes Hardy's core principle: he accepts criticism but objects to misinformation

  • “In order to be on YouTube putting yourself out there, you have to have thick skin. You have to. There is no way that you can be liked by everyone.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 2:17 — Hardy acknowledges the realities of public content creation and his own poor first impressions

  • “If you're wanting to pinpoint a designer, I feel that, in my experience with the game thus far, that is his worst one [referring to Stranger Things as Brian Eddy's worst].”

    Carrie Hardy@ 8:11 — Direct assertion of opinion; clarifies he's critiquing the designer's work within their catalog, not calling it objectively bad

  • “I don't lie because I don't want to have to remember. I've got a bunch of other crap I've got to worry about in my life on whether or not I remembered I said I liked this game or didn't.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 26:25 — Humorous but serious explanation of why Hardy's on-camera personality is authentic

  • “YouTube does not pay my bills. It barely fills up even the tank of my car and gas.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 24:55 — Directly refutes claims he's doing YouTube for money or sensationalism

  • “My first experience with Kerry arrived years ago on Straight Down the Middle I didn't receive him well... As the years passed, I acquired an appreciation for him.”

Entities

Carrie HardypersonSwampfirepersonTravispersonBrian EddypersonStraight Down The MiddleorganizationLed Zeppelin PremiumproductStranger Things PremiumproductTeenage Mutant Ninja Turtlesproduct

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Hardy's Patreon income used for equipment investment (smoother recording device with movement tracking) rather than primary income source

    medium · Hardy: 'the money for that [Patreon] to help my future content by purchasing a device that allows me to get much smoother recordings as well as being able to follow my movements'

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinside forum thread trending with multi-page discussion criticizing Carrie Hardy's negative game reviews, particularly Led Zeppelin and Stranger Things, for allegedly influencing purchasing decisions and creating pessimistic impressions of Stern

    high · Hardy states 'there's only been a couple of times where I have been trending on Pinside, but I think this is probably the most that I've trended. It's considered a hot topic.' Original post claims his Led Zeppelin review destroyed the poster's desire to buy the game despite loving the LE gameplay.

  • ?

    community_signal: Multiple Pinside posters defend Hardy's independence and credibility as reviewer with no manufacturer ties or financial incentive for sensationalism

    high · Dakota Mike: 'Carrie seems genuine to me, he doesn't have any ties to manufacturers, and he doesn't have to play nice to get interviews or other perks.' Jeff's Pinball Palace defends his early LE reviews as valuable for pre-purchase research.

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Comparison emerging between review channels: Hardy emphasizes mechanical problems and early code issues; Straight Down The Middle provides positive-tilted reviews but underweights technical problems

    medium · Jeff's Pinball Palace post: 'If you want a slightly positively tilted review, then visit Straight Down the Middle... underweight mechanical issues'

Transcript

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0:00
You know, there's only been a couple of times where I have been trending on Pinside, but I think this is probably the most that I've trended. It's considered a hot topic. There's good, there's bad, and there's some ugly, and we're going to go through it, guys. Here we go.
0:27
What's up, guys? welcome back to my channel where I talk and do everything pinball. So if that sounds good to you, then hit that subscribe button down below. I'm drinking a blueberry cake donut stout. It's got 8% alcohol content in it. It's okay. I've had better. Now, it's not uncommon that I receive criticism, I'm going to use that word, on Pinside or on other forums as well. And typically, I mean, not by me requesting it, but I do get notified, whether it be personal message, even text messaging about, hey, just so you know, someone so said this or whatever. And like 99% of the time, guys, I'm like, okay, people are free to say whatever they want. I'm all about freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want. My only problem is if people are lying. That is where I have to feel like I step in and need to say something. So during this whole thing that's on Pennside, still at least at this time, I didn't feel a need for me to actually step in and say anything because a lot of these were all people's opinions and thoughts towards me. And you will have every right to have those opinions. So be it. That's how you feel. So by the time I even started reading this thread that got started, I'm guessing late last night, it was already a couple of pages in. So by the time I got notified, hey, just so you know, there's a thread going on about you right now. I'm like, oh, great. Here we go. And honestly, reading through this, I laughed a lot.
2:14
And I'm one of those that can take the criticism, guys. I can. And that's the thing is that in order to be on YouTube putting yourself out there, you have to have thick skin. You have to. There is no way that you can be liked by everyone. I get it. And that is – and I've stated this before. I don't think I've stated it here, but I want to say I've stated it on Pennside, is that I understand for those of you out there that do not, I guess, give me enough time to grow on you because I do give really bad first impressions. I really do. It was one of those things where, and I've stated this before, I'm surprised that my wife even gave me a shot because, and the only reason why I think that happened is because we were forced to be around each other in college. So that is why that is the way it is. So let it be known that that's probably how I ended up where I'm at with her with kids and everything is because she had no choice but to be around me. But even then, a lot of my good friends today will, I guess, all agree that I am not one of those people that you first meet or hear and like I don't know what it is, it's been a curse since as far back as I can remember I don't know, maybe it's just the way I look, maybe it's the way I sound, don't know But I agree that I do not rub people the right way whenever you first discover me So what we're going to do is that we're going to go through this currently four-page thread, and I'm just going to nitpick. I've already gone through, and I've noted which ones I want to point out. So some of you haters out there are going to get a little bit of a spotlight. You're going to get your time in the sun here just for a moment. You're welcome. but just to show you that like i'm going to give you the good and the bad and everything on here i'm not going to give you all the rainbows and everything and she's like oh look what people are saying about me like no i'm going to show you some uh items that i thought were pretty funny or some points that were valid and some points that i feel like need a little bit more clarity to it so let's start it off where it says the original poster swamp fire now swamp fire I need to message you, but going through this, it looks like you've kind of already come to terms with what's going on.

Hardy was initially excited about Black Knight: Sword of Rage but changed his mind after gameplay reveal

medium confidence · Hardy: 'when black knight sword of rage got revealed i was super excited about the game guys i really did want it and then when I watched the gameplay I no longer wanted it'

Rockford Replay (Pinside post 31)@ 18:31 — Positive retrospective from community member acknowledging Hardy's growth and value despite initial poor impression

  • “Carrie captured these points. I have convinced myself to seek out Carrie's reviews on all new games.”

    Jeff's Pinball Palace (Pinside post 68)@ 31:31 — Defends Hardy's review methodology as valuable for early-adopter LE buyers who can't play before purchase

  • “Carrie seems genuine to me, he doesn't have any ties to manufacturers, and he doesn't have to play nice to get interviews or other perks.”

    Dakota Mike (Pinside post 88)@ 33:33 — Validates Hardy's independence and credibility as a reviewer without manufacturer influence

    • Black Knight: Sword of Rageproduct
    Rick and Mortyproduct
    Guns N' Roses CEproduct
    Iron Maidenproduct
    Avengers Infinity Questproduct
    Addams Familyproduct
    Twilight Zoneproduct
    Kanedaperson
    Jack Dangerperson
    Steve Ritchieperson
    Jeff's Pinball Palaceperson
    Dakota Mikeperson
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    product_concern: Recurring Pinside theme: viewers report making purchasing decisions based solely on Hardy's reviews without independent play-testing, contradicting Hardy's stated recommendation to play first

    medium · Original poster: 'watched the review and it sucked out every ounce of joy I'd had... There's no way I'd buy an LZ now.' Calf Demon: 'I still don't quite understand how you played the game and loved it, and then let someone else's opinion of it ruin your enthusiasm'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Stranger Things Premium game criticized for layout/playfield design issues rather than code, with Hardy indicating code updates won't resolve core mechanical dissatisfaction

    high · Hardy: 'my main complaint with Stranger Things was just the layout in general it wasn't the code... I don't think that code is going to fix that for me'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Led Zeppelin Pro model criticized as 'stripped down' and 'bare' specifically due to omission of wire form return ramp on side shot

    high · Hardy: 'if they would have left the wire form return ramp on that side shot then i would be much more okay with the pro... everything else i'm like okay it's an average game it's like right there the middle'

  • ?

    community_signal: Hardy characterizes his YouTube persona as authentic representation of real-life personality, not acting, driven by need to avoid remembering lies rather than performative choice

    medium · Hardy: 'when I'm here in front of you and speaking the way I am, this is not much different than how I am in real life... I don't lie because I don't want to have to remember'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Hardy mentions needing to publish Avengers Infinity Quest, Rick and Morty, and Guns N' Roses CE reviews but hasn't found time; suggests backlog of unreleased review content

    low · Hardy: 'I need to get a video out on that... I need to talk about that. I got an invite for a Guns N' Roses CE and I need to get that done as well just gotta find the time'

  • ?

    product_concern: Led Zeppelin LE day-one code issues and controversial artwork quality noted as legitimate concerns Hardy captured in early review

    medium · Jeff's Pinball Palace: 'Day One Code was a bust, and lack of good artwork was controversial... Carrie captured these points'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Original Pinside poster (Swampfire) evolves from critical concern to partial agreement and apology as thread progresses, acknowledging Hardy's criticisms may have saved him money

    high · Post 17: 'well okay i think he actually had some good points for led zeppelin maybe he saved me some money down the road' and later 'i realize now that i started the ridiculous thread and i'm sorry'

    • 4:42
    That being said, I'll message you actually probably when I get finished recording this, just to give you a heads up on here. Definitely no harsh feelings from me or anything about it. Like I said, it's your opinion. You have your right to it. That's fine. But I feel like this might be an entertaining video to a lot of you out there, especially you pensiders that can't make it two minutes into my damn videos because you might have a small cameo in here anyways the number one post let's start with this one it starts out when it says all right i know it's against the rules to call someone out but i'm pulling the public figure card carrie i love your production standards but dude it seems like every new stern has a fatal flaw for you i get it the 90s had some great games i have a few myself though my collection is mostly pre-DMD. Here's the thing. I was totally psyched about Led Zeppelin Premium. I went to my friend's house and played his LE and had a blast playing it. Then I watched the review and it sucked out every ounce of joy I'd had. There's no way I'd buy an LZ now. And they were on the top of my five bands growing up in the late 70s. All the joy, totally gone. Is your assessment right maybe some of it but was relentlessly negative plan b stranger things premium let's see what carrie thinks about this one the thread for stranger things on pin side has the ebb and flow of what i can only parallel to as basically the remission and relapse of cancer not only have i lost interest in this game but i've honestly lost interest even looking at the forum thread about it. Are you kidding me? At least half of that review was about how the older Brian Eddy games were all better, or hammering Stern about gameplay issues. No sir, I will not buy into this dystopian vision. From now on, I'll play the game and make up my own mind. Maybe with some input from the STDM reviews. I do respect your retro lineup, your production quality and your independent control of your eyebrows. I cannot respect your pessimism. And that's how it began. So if there's anything that I guess I need to point out here is that yes, so you're stating that you played your Led Zeppelin premium and I actually know you played an LE and you're wanting to get a premium. And of course, in my LZ video that I played the game, I only played the pro. I did not comment further on the premium or an LE because that's all I've played. I haven't played the premium or LE.
    7:32
    And then when it goes on to the Stranger Things, yeah, I'm not going to lie, there's been plenty of videos where I do talk a little smack about Stranger Things. And it's one of those things where I have to ask, can you honestly tell me that all of Brian Eddy's previous games, that Stranger Things is better than those? With a straight face, look me in the eyes, can you honestly tell me that Stranger Things is his best game?
    8:04
    I don't think so. In my opinion, no. I think it's his worst. Is it the worst game? No. But if you're wanting to pinpoint a designer, I feel that, in my experience with the game thus far,
    8:18
    that is his worst one. Now, granted, also, I still get people commenting about Stranger Things towards me, and even just recent comments within the last week or so about how I was wrong about Stranger Things and how it's a great game now that the code is done. Okay, I played it whenever it was merely a couple of months out from being launched, and the code was definitely still pretty shallow. I just needed to wait evidently over a year for the game to be complete on code and now it should be good to go the thing is I don't know I don't know if that's actually going to fix it for me because my main complaint with Stranger Things was just the layout in general it wasn't the code I wasn't having fun with how the game shot that was me so I don't think that code is going to fix that for me. I could be wrong, but how I'm feeling right now, I don't think it's going to fix it for me. If I ever get a chance to play Stranger Things again with updated code, by all means, I will let everyone know if my mind has been changed or does it remain the same. So the next comment I've got on here is post number two from Adol75. It reads, playing a game and making up your own mind probably was where you should have started from if all it takes to kill your excitement is a youtube video you must have a hard time making choices that particular post has 99 upvotes damn going on to post number six from Yoko Tuuna So as someone who doesn give an F about rando YouTubers I just recently learned who this Hardy guy is And then there's some other nobody coming up in my YouTube recommendations too. Hardy is apparently the nobody with a really expensive gaming chair and is a try hard to be funny. I think in the Deep Root thread he has mentioned to be at that horrible launch that they backtracked. And then there's this guy with a similar looking dark game room channel where all the thumbnails look like some Match.com sketch guy who wants you to try this drink you never saw poured.
    10:37
    But come on. Trust him. this this comment right here oh man i i literally laughed out loud because i know who he's talking about is my buddy travis it's got to be him if it's not him then i i it might be somebody else but that was a good one uh so if you if i'm gonna give you a shout out here travis uh good or bad here you go like uh so you got a Marv logo on YouTube. It does his podcast and he has his videos as well. And his typical thumbnail is something like this. A match.com sketch guy. If anything else, since he's from Oklahoma, I'm going to harp on you some more here, Travis. I think it would probably be farmersonly.com kind of look.
    11:39
    But continuing on with this post here, both of those guys aren't needed and redundant 1,000 times over in this hobby.
    11:50
    Play a game. Do you like it or not? If so, buy it. If not, don't. Don't let some YouTube nobody, probably with an agenda, sway your opinion. They're looking to be provocative for clicks. Similarly, don't listen to shills that may or may not be distributors for their everything is awesome recommendations. Play and decide on your own. Only way to know you end up with something you like. Going on to post number seven from Dakota Mike. First of all, LOL. Secondly, although they have their fans, you picked two of the least well-received stern pins of the last couple of years to judge Carrie's reviews on. third why would carrie's negative review of led zeppelin stop you from buying it unless he was telling the truth and actually made some good points lastly i find it a little amusing that you felt the need to announce that you're not watching carrie's reviews anymore doesn't seem like it warrants a whole thread unless you were trying to start a larger discussion about pinball reviews or something so on this i have to agree with you dakota mike that definitely stranger things and Led Zeppelin are the two games out of that particular time frame that have not been well received by the majority at least so it is kind of funny that those are the two games that I'm being spotlighted on with me talking about and so if you're going just mainly by those two videos then yes I will seem very pessimistic and just seem like I'm just crapping all over Stern but that's not the case.
    13:28
    I mean, I talk good about TMNT. That's brought up later on in the comments and everything. As far as Avengers Infinity Quest, I need to get a video out on that, guys. I actually need to get a video out discussing a lot of other games for those that care to watch them. But I do have my thoughts and opinions that are different on Avengers Infinity Quest because I've played it quite a bunch including even Rick and Morty. I need to talk about that. I got an invite for a Guns N' Roses CE and I need to get that done as well just gotta find the time well we're gonna go on to the next one from post number 8 it's pretty simple really awesome review means I need to check it out shitty review means I need to check it out touche and then Swampfire posted on number 9 merely an hour after his original post I'll put the whole thing up on here but I'm not gonna read I'm going to pick in just certain sections of certain comments out, guys, because this video I feel like is already going to be long enough as it is. He's like, I don't think YouTubers have an obligation to sugarcoat their reviews. I just think that there's such a thing as too much criticism. And I wouldn't have posted this at all if I thought Kerry Hardy was a rando. I think a lot of people watch his videos and make decisions based on them. And honestly, Swampfire, this is factual. and I say it's factual because I do get emails, messages.
    14:53
    People contact me for my thoughts about certain games, whether it be they should go for the pro or premium on particular titles and definitely with TMNT because I actually own the game and did a review on it. So there are people out there. Now whether or not I am their sole person that they go to to make that decision, I don't know. but people do contact me to get my opinions on certain titles. Skipping on down to number 13 from Calf Demon. I still don't quite understand how you played the game and loved it, and then let someone else's opinion of it ruin your enthusiasm for it. Most games are subjective, and while there are a few true loser games out there, the rest of them work for some people and are duds for others. And that is true even for the top-rated games. The Addams Family, Twilight Zone, are loved by many, And while I respect them, they do nothing for me. So if you played Led Zeppelin and had a blast, why does his opinion of it mean anything to you? And it's one of those things where this type of comment is going to be scattered through the whole thread, guys. A lot of people do have the same thoughts about this particular thing.
    16:09
    Basically, in a nutshell, don't make your decisions based on YouTubers or other people. you make up your own mind and i stress that constantly in my videos i highly recommend you play it first just for your own sake not only do i look out for myself when it comes to where my money goes but i look out for everyone else i have never told people to not buy a game i merely just talk about a game and how i feel about it my thoughts and opinions and that usually gets people thinking about it whether or not hey you know what that's a valid point or to something that it's not going to bother them or whatever but in the end the the decision is up to you guys on whether you should buy it and it's also going to be up to you whether or not you feel like it's a good game moving on to post number 17 from swamp fire now swamp fire's next post on number 17 is where i feel like he's starting to feel like he made a mistake by starting the thread he's like well okay i think he actually had some good points for led zeppelin maybe he saved me some money down the road he just made me realize that this stern is kind of stripped down i don't know man i'm just discouraged and i realize now that i started the ridiculous thread and i'm sorry and to be frank and i state in the video led zeppelin pro is stripped down it's freaking bear i honestly feel that if they i'm repeating myself because i say it in the video but if they would have left the wire form return ramp on that side shot then i would be much more okay with the pro i'll be like all right but it's just that one thing that took out that really killed it for me i mean everything else i'm like okay it's an average game it's like right there the middle. If you enjoy the game, so be it. But the pro is stripped, guys. Stripped. It really is. Very barren, in my opinion. Skipping on down to post number 31, Rockford Replay. Carrie is more of a machine tech who includes a variety of I gotta get this off my chest videos, not necessarily a means to influence our purchases. I would agree with that statement. My first experience with Kerry arrived years ago on Straight Down the Middle I didn't receive him well Like I stated before earlier guys, I don't get received well But discovered a guy who shares his work in restoring pinball machines As the years passed, I acquired an appreciation for him I do feel he's a little bitter or something Maybe pessimistic But have grown a great respect for the rebuild he shares I wish he provided more detail on his work maybe even played a few games while he's talking. For 2021, I support his Patreon and hope we'll have more people in the community that share their builds. I think he's a great guy and I feel it's foolish for us to let him make our decisions. Well, thank you, Rockford Replay, for supporting me on Patreon. I will say that I do agree with you that I should be providing more details about my work. this is honestly a flaw that I have in my own mind when it comes to doing a lot of the work I do on these machines I get so caught up in what I'm doing that I honestly forget that I need to record and show these things to you guys it's just I get really into a project and all I can focus on is what I doing and how I doing it it a flaw I working on it I want to improve so I hoping to get better at that So something to look forward to Moving on to post number 37 I have never made it through more than the first three minutes of one of his videos. His contrived acrimony and self-absorbed hand-wringing gets old quick.
    20:10
    I always wonder why someone with such confidence in trashing others' creations doesn't build his own pen to show Steve Ritchie and Brian Eddy how it's done. I mean, self-absorbed?
    20:22
    I'm going to disagree with you on that one. Because everything I do is for everyone else. There's plenty of videos that I've got that you don't even see me in. It's merely just a voiceover.
    20:38
    But you would know that if you spent more than the first couple of minutes watching. And maybe fully walked them all the way through, but okay. Moving on to the next comment. So, by WGPE, post number 43, Kaneda, Minnie, and his actor sidekick, Tontucky, fingernail painting extraordinaire Jack Danger, with all the cool guys talking pins, why would anyone watch little Carrie?
    21:09
    Ouch. Moving on to post 46, by 2084. Karrie is just another wannabe YouTube star. Like all of them, his focus is on himself with his name and big stylized logo, close-ups of his head, and frequent urges to hit the subscribe button. His expletive-ridden feigned indignation at the latest pinball announcement and overacted conversations he imagines might have happened at Stern seem to have found a small niche. He doesn't review games as much as he reviews teaser videos and echoes the opinion of the hour on Pinside. If people find that entertaining, fine. But I can't believe the original poster decided not to buy a game he wanted to base on. His focus is on himself with his name and big stylized logo.
    21:57
    Everyone that has their own channel has a brand. I've got a logo, yes. and a lot of times it's got to be big but it's not like it's like constantly up in the middle of the screen but evidently there's close-ups up my head so dude do i is my head too big for you guys i know on my stranger things video i tried one time with a setup and i'll never do it again i got uh it was one of those things in retrospect i'm like yeah that was a bad layout so that won't happen again. Overactive conversations that I, I mean, he's talking about my skits that I do.
    22:36
    They're supposed to be overacted. That's part of the thing. That's what it is. It's not meant to be taken seriously, guys. It's a parody skit for a reason. Once again, to provide entertainment for you out there, but it's all about me, guys. We are now on to page 2 of this thread, post number 51 by Dan Marino.
    23:02
    Dan Marino? Were the laces in or out? The laces were in! They were in! I enjoyed the Led Zep Pro machine that I played. I'm too cheap and not wealthy enough to buy new machines. I enjoy watching pinball-related YouTube videos. Carl Hardy is fine. I wish I made my living doing what he does instead of my normal job. I wonder if his YouTube persona is acting and if he is like that all the time. I'm glad there is YouTube content related to pinballs, reviewing machines, and repairing them. People complain about everything these days. Pinball helps me escape the lame stuff that goes on in the world. I played Iron Maiden recently and liked the game, but hated the music and theme. Ugh. So, just so we're clear, guys, I do not make a living doing pinball stuff and or YouTube. There is no way that I could make a living, nor would I even want to. I have been asked that. Would you want to do full-time YouTube? And God, no. That would be awful. Horrible. That would be – it's because it wouldn't be fun. It would no longer be a hobby. I do this because it's fun.
    24:23
    And I guess just something just to pass the time a lot of the time. Just because I'm passionate about the hobby. But I do not do this for money because there is none. The only money that I actually really obtain – I do get a little bit of YouTube money. but it's so few and far between because you have to make a certain amount per month for you to actually get a check. And if you don't make anything or enough for that month, then it basically is going to roll over to the next month. It's all convoluted YouTube stuff. But in a nutshell, no, YouTube does not pay my bills. It barely fills up even the tank of my car and gas. But what does help is my Patreon supporters. And just recently, I used the money for that to help my future content by purchasing a device that allows me to get much smoother recordings as well as being able to follow my movements. So that way, I'm able to be more mobile and still provide better content down the road. So, yeah, lost complete idea of what I was talking about here. I wonder if his YouTube persona is acting and if he is like that all the time. Now, I'm not really sure how to take that. I mean, honestly, guys, when I'm here in front of you and speaking the way I am, this is not much different than how I am in real life. Some of you out there have met me in real life, and I believe that how I am in talking is how I am in front of the camera. Those of you who have met me, feel free to comment down below just to verify. It's not much different here. I'm not acting, so whether that's a good thing or bad thing, I'm sorry, but I prefer and am honest as I possibly can be. I don't want to lie because I do not want to have to remember, guys. That is a thing. So when I talk about games and how I feel about stuff, it is what it is and how I feel because I don't want to lie about it because then I'm going to forget how I lied about it.
    26:25
    I don't lie because I don't want to have to remember. I've got a bunch of other crap I've got to worry about in my life on whether or not I remembered I said I liked this game or didn't. That's just not how I am. Moving on. Post number 55 from Dung. Only learned about this guy recently. Made it two minutes into a video and turned it off. Not my... You know what? I made it one sentence into your post and I'm not even going to continue it. Moving on. Post 57. Didn't carry only review LZ Pro? That is correct. Seriously, the main complaints are the dead-end shot, only pro, and that one feature that is not advertised, ramp-shootable from every flipper. Both is not an opinion, and as you said, you wanted a premium anyway. And yes, he is kind of harsh, often it's funny, and a parody, sometimes just bitter. I wanted the Black Knight sort of rage. Kerry jumped a bit with his opinion coming from the announcement to the reveal and his first gameplay, LE. only sad thing is when his resume is pro is probably the way to go but he never follows up and plays that what you're finding when you newly drop in a bunch of videos regarding the same game that are all over the place so just not the ideal source for reviews okay so there's a little bit scattered out there in that sentence but yeah it's it's true when black knight sword of rage got revealed i was super excited about the game guys i really did want it and then when I watched the gameplay I no longer wanted it I was not impressed with the upper play field it wasn't for me so I changed my mind and I haven't just been able to play a pro I haven't been able to come across one maybe down the road I will play a pro but that's where I'm at on that on to post 59 from the beef supreme I'm new to the hobby but I like Kerry's content a review is just someone's opinion. He is at least explaining why he doesn't like certain things. His Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles review was really positive. I haven't had the easiest time finding pinball reviews and decent content on YouTube, so I appreciate that he is putting out there. I also don't think he tries to overdo it with the comedy, which is really annoying in some other videos. Thanks. Moving on to post 61 and 62 These can be combined by DougRam69 That Kerry Hardy guy is the worst He is all about making controversy Noise is ordered to be relevant He teases you with something he is going to reveal or say And then takes 20 minutes to say it Keeps repeating himself just to stretch it out He thinks he is being smart but instead he is just pissing people off Total waste of time Note, lots of time he is negatively reviewing a game without even playing it. He makes a judgment based on preliminary picks. That doesn't seem right to me. Okay.
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    There are some valid points, I guess, and some things I do agree with. There have been times, and I note this myself, that by doing the editing process, that I do repeat myself. It's up law. I'm going to work on it. I don't agree with how it takes me 20 minutes to say it because I prefer my videos to be short. But this video is probably going to be 20 minutes at least. That's what it seems like. And as far as making judgement on preliminary picks yeah I did that with turtles I made that mistake and i made a follow video by stating how wrong i was for doing that so i think that was at least right admitting when i made a mistake post number 65 from caucasian two-step mother of god OMG There is no way I'm reading all of this God Moving on to post number 68 From Jeff's Pinball Palace Carrie's reviews mention our examples of someone giving it to you as they see it Also known as an honest review I believe he is sincere from watching his videos and that he believes what he says So if you are looking for a good accurate review Carrie Hardy's videos are a good place to start. If you want a slightly positively tilted review, then visit Straight Down the Middle. They do realistic reviews, but most games end up with a B to B-, and they underweight mechanical issues. As a result, Straight Down the Middle review of Stranger Things featured gameplay footage, while Carrie got hung up on the mechanical problems and technology that wasn't working. As everyone says, you need to play it before you buy or pay. However, this brings up an issue. If you are interested in buying a hot new LE, you most likely won't have a chance to play first. If you were a potential buyer for Stranger Things LE, you'd be thankful to have found Carrie's reviews, which came out early. You'd want to be aware of the mechanical hazards, especially as it involved the main toy. You'd want to know the light show was a bust. Same points apply to Led Zeppelin LE, too. Day One Code was a bust, and lack of good artwork was controversial. Warplay Filthy says, yep, that wasn't and Stern's launch video. So, Carrie captured these points. I have convinced myself to seek out Carrie's reviews on all new games. Thanks, Jeff's Pinball Palace, for the compliments there. Moving on to number 76 from Dr. Pin. I don't think anybody with half a brain aspiring to become a YouTube star does pinball stuff.
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    Yeah, there you go. Without a doubt, Dr. Pin, I completely agree with you right there. Moving on to 83. I don't know, Kerry. Never met Kerry. Haven't watched a video he's done, so his YouTube videos and streams just aren't my thing. I'm more of a listening to a podcast in my car guy, so I have no horse in this race. I'm going to try to make this a little bit quicker, guys, because it's already getting late for me. Basically, he states that he appreciates those that do contribute to the hobby by creating content, and then he states here it must suck to be Kerry to wake up to read this because he's passionate about pinball. So thanks, Kerry. So, yeah, I mean, right here he also states, personally, I think it would have been more respectable to maybe send Carrie an email with some constructive feedback, your opinion, than put a post up publicly bitching about the guy who does this for, what, no money?
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    Okay, that is correct, pretty much, yeah. There's no money in this. but later on you see that the original poster does clarify that you know it was late he may have had a few to drink but uh and we've all made mistakes I have made mistakes with videos guys and but the most important thing is you own it which he does later on and we'll get to it so post 88 I love that some people are posting that Carrie is just being negative and harsh for the clicks. There isn't a single pinball YouTuber that makes any real money off their videos, let alone to live off of. The idea that Cary's being sensational for the attention is laughable.
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    Cary seems genuine to me, he doesn't have any ties to manufacturers, and he doesn't have to play nice to get interviews or other perks. He's a solid pinball tech who restores a lot of games and does clear-coding playfield swaps and hate-routes games as well, so I think he brings a different perspective than a lot of other pinball reviewers. Thank you, Dakota Mike, for those. I would agree with a good portion of that. I do a lot of stuff in this hobby, and for little glory, if not at all. Moving on to post 90. This is where I believe he realizes that he made a mistake by posting it, for sure. I apologize for starting this thread while I was drinking last night, and I just realized the irony. I'm doing to carry what carry sometimes does to stern, harping on the negative while minimizing the positive. For what it's worth, I put the iPad down last night. I played every one of my pins. That's what I should have done instead of starting this thread. Sorry for ragging on you, carry.
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    All right. So there he goes. He owns up to it. So that's good. I just need to read the first sentence of this next comment. How meta is complaining about another's complaints? It's like saying, I hate how this guy hates. so so now we have a i hate how this hater hates thread on a forum where everyone seems to hate everything and everyone who doesn't hate that same way or the same things they hate yep that's what this is moving on to post what is this i think yeah it went off it went off the topic here for a good while i want to say they started talking about other things at other games and other things 116. I just watched CH's two videos about Stranger Things and Led Zeppelin and came to the realization that his videos are actually very helpful to me. From now on, I'll be sure to buy every game he hates.
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    Beezle boob. Touche. Nice. Moving on to post 125. Does this Carrie girl ever show any TNA? If not, I'm out. my mother named me after Cary Grant then it got off topic for a really good while guys talking about Ghostbusters and stuff like that but we move on to post number 170 this is when Kaz chimes in I'm surprised that the captain hasn't commented on this thread maybe we'll see a new video or skit reenactment maybe and then finally we're going to end this on is basically final portion, at least at this portion in time. It's not a personal attack. I think Gary's a great vlogger, and I assume he can handle some criticism of his review style.
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    Swampfire, you are correct. I can take criticism. If I couldn't, then I would have gotten out a long time ago. And it's sad that we have honestly lost some people in this hobby that used to be content creators due to the negative feedback from the public.
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    Haters, if you will. And it's sad that some of them have chosen to step away from this hobby because of the kind of people out there. And some of those were ones that I was reading off. They're out there. You just got to push through kind of thing. I'm all about taking criticism. I'm up for it. But I do even better when it's constructive criticism. just saying so that was pretty much it guys that was the thread on pin side that's considered to be a hot topic at this point in time the thread will die eventually like all threads do except for deep root that thread just keeps going and going it seems won't die so swamp fire and to all others out there that put in what i guess a lot of people would consider negative words towards me. No hard feelings. Like I stated earlier in this video, I'm all about freedom of speech. You have every right to state how you feel about my content or me. That is your opinion. The same goes for how I state and have my opinions towards these games because I believe that I should have that right to talk about these games. And whether or not you agree or disagree, that's what the comment section in the videos are for is letting me know and we can have a discussion about that in those videos so look guys when it comes to me talking about these games it's one of those where like someone stated i make these some of these videos i've got to get this off my chest i just need to talk about this and I am no different than any of you out there. I'm really not.
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    I'm a pinball enthusiast who's got a YouTube channel. My comments and opinions are no different than a lot of you out there with your own thoughts and opinions and it's completely okay if you do not agree with me all the time or at all that's the joy about this hobby is that everyone has different like feelings about a game you can't control how people feel about a game but what you can control is how you react to how they feel about a game swamp fire no hard feelings or anything like that i'll send you a message here in a bit um but yeah everyone out there just be you enjoy playing the games and it's okay if others don't agree with how you feel until next time guys peace out
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