Considering all that, I without being very specific, I want to give credit to Robert and Deep Root when we thanked him for, you know, giving us credentials to come down, extending the invitation. We just let him know that it wasn't going to work out for us this year. And to his credit. And this made me feel good because, listen, I mean, arguably, are we pinball media? I guess so. Right. Like, do we consider ourselves professional reporters or anything like that? No. Are we respectful to those in the industry? Absolutely. We try. Do we cover things as fairly as we can? Yeah. Are we highly critical of things? We can be. But we have a different approach in how we express our thoughts on that. Respectful. Robert said, you know what? He understood. But if there was anything that he could do that could kind of help us to come down to let him know he was expressing, you know, in no way are we looking for favoritism by us trying to aid you in getting down the deep root. but it's a special day for us, and we want you guys to be a part of it. And, Bill, that made me feel like a million dollars that a pinball company, albeit up and coming, really took the time to figure out what our issues might have been and to try to help us come to a solution so that we could come down and take part in their company. Now all the pinball companies And I love that Yes they been very nice to us and they helped us when we were doing contests and fundraisers and things like that But for a company to kind of go out of their way to say hey listen it important for us that you there So if there's something that we can do to help out, please let us know. I thought it was a very humbling experience, and I really, really appreciated that more than Robert and Deeper probably would ever know. And I wanted to share that with everybody else. Because what they're doing right now, too, is they are going out of their way to make sure that the Zidware claims not only were fulfilled, but that they are getting these people down and VIP rooms or VIP access to Texas Pinball Festival. And I've also heard that they're helping with some travel expenses and room and board for these people that are coming down, which I think is incredible. And they don't have to do any of that. and I'm not going to shill Deep Root because they've not shown me anything that I am over the moon about yet, but I'm still eagerly anticipating the launch. I'm very disappointed that I can't be there. I've been vocal saying that I am in their corner. I do want them to be successful. Absolutely. That being said, I'm going to keep a mindful eye out to make sure that I hold them accountable for what they are telling the public that they are going to do. Long story short, I did want to thank Deep Root for that, And I do commend what they're doing as far as getting the Zidware customers whole. Well, as whole as they can be because that came from a situation that was – it was just nothing. You were doomed. You had nothing left. Pretty much. So we're not going to be able to make it down. And it's disappointing because we had such a great time at TPF last year, and it just kind of is what it is. But for me, it's child care. So unless we can get a child, you know, a sitter from the hours of 7 a.m. to or 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. at Bill's house, this is not going to fly. Well, yeah, it's a big commitment, man. It's a big commitment. Now, we do have some of our correspondents down there. I know Brian Cosner is going to be down there. And for those of you that know who Brian is or Cos, he covers American Pinball for us. But more importantly, at that reveal, we've got Chris Chandler, who is our Deep Root correspondent, who is going to be down there and covering the show. Now, what are we going to be doing during TPF this year? We'll talk about that in just a second. I did want to kind of round up with Ken Rutberg, who's covering Jersey Jack Pinball. And these candy codes keep popping up. And for those of you who are wondering, what's a candy code? It's a code in which you can enter into the pinball machine that unlocks certain elements of the gameplay that normally wouldn't be there. And they're kind of like Easter eggs, you know. For those of you that are Contra fans on the Nintendo Entertainment System, you know if you want those unlimited lives of 30, It's up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start. And you've got 30. B, A, B, A, start. Well, no, it's just B, A, start. But if you want two players, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start. Believe me, man, I was going to get this tattooed. Okay. I'm ahead. I know that. But, I mean, it's kind of interesting that you can kind of enter something, and it's a flipper code or whatever, and you can kind of unlock elements of the game. Kevin Manning from Buffalo is kind of putting together a one-stop shop for those codes, and I think that's a pretty cool thing to have cited, too. It's just a little bit extra that you can kind of look forward to with your game, something that you're not used to paying for, and it's just additive. So I haven't done that yet. You have to do it. I know. Dude, I've been slacking, but that's okay. We'll get on that. We need a Ken and Bill flipper code for JJP. Because if you're cool in pinball, you've got a flipper code, right? We're half cool. Yeah, we do have a flipper code in a couple games. Maybe quarter cool, but whatever, man. I consider it cool. I mean, Dwight Sullivan has flipper codes for us in Ghostbusters and in Munsters. No. Or no, Star Wars in Munsters. Yes. Not Ghostbusters. And Ghostbusters was just before our time for flipper codes. But Dwight's a buddy of ours. And the flipper code is just a picture of our St. Charles Pinball Club. But it's cool because you can go on location. And I did this with my son. I'm like, hey, check this out. And I was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And boom, we come up. And it's awesome. For those of you that are into flipper codes, the code is 446. and that is the flipper code. If you don't know how to answer that or what that means, you can email the show. It's specialwinlet pinballpodcast at gmail.com. That's on Star Wars and Munsters. If they're still there, he might have taken them out. Maybe. They were there at one point. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so either. But Dwight's a good guy. So yeah, so check out the candy coats. Anyhow, let's go back to visit. What are we going to be doing at TPF? Now, for those of you that have followed the show and you followed our pinball streams, Bill's been limited lately. He just had the birth of his son and he's got work and his wife's got work and they all they have a four-year-old daughter also at home so it's been kind of hectic so for us not to get down to tpf is one thing but we didn't want to just abandon the whole tpf experience yeah so what we're going to do is is we're going to fire up the special inlet streaming channel and we are going to do live coverage of texas pinball festival and i'd like to do uh some post coverage of the deep root seminar and we're essentially we're We're just going to have it like a news desk. We're looking for correspondents that want to call in to our live Twitch stream and give us updates on what they're seeing at TPF. You're like the boots on the ground. We've got a couple people that we already locked down, but the more the merrier because when people tune in on Twitch – because if you can't go to TPF, what you're going to end up doing is you're going to be on Facebook. And your whole feed is going to be filled with everybody that's at TPF. And you're going to feel sad, like I will feel sad and like you will feel sad. I am definitely already sad. I know I'm sad too. I'm thinking about the weather, dude. Yeah. Yeah, dude, just the good times. That's okay. We're going to make a good time out of this. We're going to give you a place to be sad in one place, and that's going to be a special and lit stream. The sad stream. Right. But let's just all talk about TPF. I want to get some Skype calls in where we can get some video going with people that are at TPF, some live video. I've got some interview requests in for some of the heavy hitters in pinball, so we hope to have that. But it's just going to be a live show, and I envision it going probably like maybe Friday, Saturday, Sunday or something. Two hours every day or something. Yeah, like two or three hours in the evening, and Bill will be able to get here for some of that streaming. But let's do that. If you would like to take part, if you're going to TPF and you know for a fact that you would be able to commit to something like that, again, email the show, specialwindlitpinballpodcast at gmail.com, or go to Facebook and just message us and say, hey, this is what I'd like to do. This is what I'm interested in. I'd like to kind of cover it. It's not a job, guys, so don't worry about that. But we want to be able to call you, and you can kind of give us a live update for like maybe five minutes each of those three days. One of the correspondents, though, their job will be to go outside and live stream what food trucks are there. Yes. And judge tacos. I like that, man. We'll have somebody outside covering weather and food. Yeah. Absolutely, man. Who can do that? And traffic. Walking across from the hotel. Yeah, traffic. Right. Traffic's a little light right now. All that construction is probably all done because we stayed at the Indigo across the street from the convention center last year. Which is right behind Country Inn or Courtyard? Courtyard. It was Courtyard because that's where Jason Fowler had his room. We ended up spending so much time in his courtyard outside of his hotel, probably more there than any other place, which I thought was pretty funny. I can't believe we didn't get kicked off that patio at 2 in the morning. But, hey, God bless. I know. Well, speaking of Jason Fowler, we'll come back to TPF in a second. For those of you that are following this Rick and Morty update, now, Dr. John, he's been busy. He's on the tournament scene this week, so he didn't submit anything for his update, which is totally fine, because, I mean, what can you really submit at this point? But if you want to get more information about the game, Jason had an excellent interview with Bo and Karen's. You can listen to that at Slap Save Pinball Podcast. The week prior to that, or two weeks prior to that, he had his interview with Scott Denisey. It's always good to hear from Jason and Matt, but Jason's kind of taking this interview thing, and he's doing it every other week, and he's doing an excellent job. So for those of you that kind of like a nice personable conversation with an excellent host and an excellent guest, I recommend this Lab State Pinball Podcast. Jason and Bowen, on that interview, you get some more information about Rick and Morty. Going back to TPF, yeah, so let's get somebody to cover weather and food and traffic outside. Absolutely, man. Get some people inside to have some fun. We need somebody to literally be outside of the Twippies recording, you know, all the celebrities walking up. Well, see, the Twippies. No, no, outside. Outside. Right. But we're going to do the tailgate party leading up to the Twippies. Now, the Twippies are going to be streamed live on Twitch. Okay? Yes. Now, what we're going to do is we're going to do the live tailgate party, and we're going to take everybody that's in chat prior to the Twippies, and we're just going to raid that Twippy channel. So we're going to transfer you all to that stream. So if you just want to hang out and have some fun prior to the Twippies, you're not going to be watching us during the Twippies because we're going to transfer you over to the Twippies. which we'll be watching as well but it's going to be fun we might even dress up that day maybe we rent some tux and wear them in studio c tuxedo t-shirt yeah right or i'll turn the heat up and you can pretend that it's uh nice out in here we got to get a palm tree for that dude if we do that it would be kind of nice but yeah so that's what we'll do we'll do the uh i'm down i'm down we did that tailgate stream uh for willie waka when that was revealed at mgc and that was ridiculous we had a ton of people come in so special when lit and if you want to know how to get to that you go to twitch.tv slash special when lit podcast it's all one word special when lit podcast search us on twitch now just click the heart the follow button doesn't cost you anything and every time we go live during the course of tpf and the twippies you'll get a little notification hey special when let's go on live they're covering twippies right now and you can just kind of chime in and see what's going on in uh in real time yeah be a good time i wanted to start a uh Well, this is how this happened. I had an idea in my head about a couple different pinball machines, and I thought to myself, what if we did this, and what if this had happened? And I had this kind of surreal moment, and I'm not really explaining this to you too well, but when I put in the show notes, what if? Did you have anything that had come to mind, like what if this would have happened in pinball, or something that hasn't already happened or something that could have happened that didn't? I have one in my head. did you want to go first or do you want me to go first i'll let you go first i'll go this is your baby so this is what well it's you know this is what my idea was so stranger things is here i've been playing the heck out of stranger things prior to that it was elvira's house of horrors i've been playing the heck out of that i'm playing more stranger things now because it's new uh and it's something that like i'm just craving to play that being said i went back this weekend and i jumped down house of horrors and had an excellent time two really good releases in my opinion from Stern But I thought this I looked at the layouts and I looked at Elvira House of Horrors and I looked at Stranger Things And I thought to myself what if you kept the same layouts but you traded the theme So the Stranger Things theme would end up on Elvira's House of Horrors, and the Elvira's House of Horrors theme would have switched over to Stranger Things. and I almost thought that it made sense because you've got Elvira's House of Horrors that would then be able to take advantage of the projection technology to kind of show the movies and stuff on that big screen the video clips that would have been cool and then if you switch Stranger Things over to Elvira's House of Horrors you've got that big house in the middle could it could have been the house where Will lived uh you know there and that could have had color changing effects when he went into the upside down you've got the little crypt area there that that could have been Will's hideout in the woods which would have been kind of cool or maybe the entrance way to the lab i just wonder what if those themes were reversed and it just kind of blew my mind for a second and when you really think and look at it they almost would compliment each other without missing a beat so that was my kind of pinball what if my pinball what if epiphany so to speak i like it yeah i'm gonna give you an old one okay um what if you took oktoberfest right okay ripped all the artwork off of it through the cosmic carnival artwork on top of it and rethemed cosmic carnival on oktoberfest i don't think we've ever actually talked about that on air that is an unbelievable what if so you want to take dirty dirty donnie's cosmic carnival and and replace it with the existing art package on oktoberfest how would that affected sales how would that have impacted sales do you think what's funny laughing is i hear somebody right now they're having an epiphany in their car or in their office or while they're walking saying damn that might actually be cool so i'm sure we'll get some emails on it man but i think that would have been pretty interesting and it actually the cosmic carnival goes with the theme of the roller coaster kind of like corkscrew ramps or wire forms and whatnot perfect it's a quirky thing yeah you'd have to get rid of the the old dude on uh auto auto on yeah yeah whatever you can replace him with a crazy clown or something like that dude some creepy that would have been nuts man creepy ass clown would have been perfect on that wow you did kind of just blow my mind so it's interesting that we both went because when i brought up this uh idea just for some basic discussion i didn't talk to you about switching themes off of machines but that's where you went with it too changing the theme of a current game it was either that or what if williams would have ran another two years with the pinball 2000 platform we would have seen wizard blocks we would have seen playboy what else would we have seen yeah playboy would have been really interesting on the pinball 2000 platform it might not it might have been just a bit outside for sales but uh popular nonetheless oh man but yeah i mean i could still see that i would like to have seen that one a little bit further through than two games. Yeah, it's an interesting point, man. When you think about it now, I wonder if it could have increased sales. Because I think some of the issues that people have with Oktoberfest, it's not how the game shoots, not the rules. It's just more, again, kind of the theme and the artwork, right? Well, you know, animations are pretty good, in my opinion. Now, that being said, Cosmic Carnival is still an original theme, but it's more of an appealing art package. It looks sick. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, you throw that kind of kooky, evil-ish kind of stuff on top of that game, dude, and it would have just killed it. What if you just hybrided it where it was like a Cosmic Carnival meets Oktoberfest beer drinking? That would have been nuts, too. Creepy-ass clowns drinking beer. Oh. That would have been cool, too. Clowns are creepy, but I don't mind beer, so it would kind of offset. I don't know. Interesting. Nice work. Yeah. Anyone with opinions, please email the show or throw something on Facebook. 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