Pinball Expo 2019 Flip Out Tournament Playoffs - Finals!

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TL;DR

2019 Expo Finals commentary featuring Black Knight Premium analysis and meta-shift discussion.

Summary

Extended DVD commentary on the 2019 Pinball Expo Flip Out Tournament Finals featuring alternate analysis of gameplay on Black Knight Premium. Commentators discuss tournament logistics, game-specific strategies, rule mechanics, and meta-discoveries during live play, including discussions of previous expo tournaments, player techniques, and manufacturing quirks with the featured machine.

Key Claims

Alexander had put up 500 million on Beatles Beatles in practice rounds with a low of 350 million, only failing to exceed 350 once
high confidence · Speaker discussing Alexander's pre-match performance on Beatles
Keith Ellen was the only player to beat Alexander on Beatles, by reaching 700-800 million
high confidence · Speaker providing tournament context about previous round results
Black Knight Premium had a manufacturing defect: a routed divot/canyon under the flipper causing balls to get stuck
high confidence · Detailed technical discussion of the machine's flaws and suggested fixes (tape, mylar)
The catapult multiplier on Black Knight Premium can be boosted to 4x via green targets, with value previously thought to require complex shield cycling strategies
medium confidence · Strategic discussion comparing Colin Urban's meta approach vs. simpler looping strategy discovered during finals
There is a hidden mode on Black Knight Premium's second Knights Challenge that is based on Black Knight 2000 rules
medium confidence · Speaker mentioning surprise discovery of alternate mode mechanics with ball stuck in shooter lane
The left ramp loop on Black Knight Premium produces uncapped unlimited scoring potential when shot repeatedly
high confidence · Real-time meta discovery during finals play where commentators recognize looping as superior strategy to catapult farming
Previous Nationals tournament coverage included post-match commentary where commentators already knew the outcome
medium confidence · Nostalgia discussion about Steinman doing commentary with Keith and Bowen, referencing Medieval Madness finals
Black Knight 4 is in development with rules mashup from all three prior Black Knight versions
low confidence · Speculative discussion about future game mechanics, includes concept of no in/out lanes

Notable Quotes

“I don't care what score you have while you play right unless I do”
Josh@ 0:40 — Reveals player psychology about bonus awareness during matches
“Shoot loops tale of flail”
Kaylee (joking)@ 46:26 — Humorous summary of Beatles mode strategy where every mode solution involves shooting loops
“You have just seen the meta shift the light bulb has gone off”
Commentator@ 33:32 — Critical moment recognizing that left ramp looping surpasses catapult super farming as dominant strategy
“If you weren't my son I'd love you”
Commentator@ 22:33 — Joke about approval of player's magnet save execution
“Escher will always trap up when there's a ball he will never exploit it”
Commentator@ 24:12 — Notes player's ethical choice not to abuse stuck ball situation
“I'm starting to tread everyone yeah I'm a trendsetter brands look out”
Speaker (joking about phone on live bar)@ 3:42 — Humorous reference to commemorating early pinball phone tilt stories
“Anti-glareton is the way to go”
Commentator@ 15:39 — Proposal for improved tournament venue conditions

Entities

AlexanderpersonEscher LefkoffpersonKayleepersonJoshpersonKeith EllenpersonColin Urbanperson ZachpersonFred RichardsonpersonLeslie Ruckmanperson

Signals

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event_signal: Extended DVD release of 2019 Pinball Expo Flip Out Tournament Finals with alternate commentary track; first-ever live streaming of expo finals
high · References to 'extended dvd uh criteria collection uh audio alternate' and live streaming ('we went live oh i didn't realize')
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product_concern: Black Knight Premium features a routed divot under the flipper assembly that causes balls to become stuck; persists across multiple machines at event; requires tape/mylar patches as workaround
high · Detailed discussion of the 'canyon divot' under the flipper, note that 'nobody's decided to just put some sticky tape or anything in that hole'; extended gameplay showing stuck ball recovery
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gameplay_signal: Real-time discovery during finals that left ramp looping on Black Knight Premium produces superior scoring to previously-believed optimal catapult super farming strategy; commentators explicitly recognize 'meta shift' in real time
high · Repeated loop shots accumulating to 890+ million in rapid succession; commentator states 'the meta has just changed before our experience' and 'there's something with uncapped unlimited scoring by shooting one thing over and over again'
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design_innovation: Black Knight Premium contains hidden second Knights Challenge mode that borrows Black Knight 2000 rules (ball stuck in shooter lane, ability to purposefully drain and reset)
medium · Speaker notes surprise discovery: 'the second knights challenge on the premium has a different mode' with Black Knight 2000 mechanics including auto-ball-in-shooter functionality
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Topics

Black Knight Premium rule mechanics and strategyprimaryTournament finals gameplay commentary and analysisprimaryMeta-game discovery: loop shooting vs catapult farming strategy shiftprimaryManufacturing defects and machine maintenance (stuck ball divot)primaryPinball Expo history and tournament traditionssecondaryPost-match commentary practices and tournament logisticssecondaryPlayer psychology and scoring awareness during matchessecondaryHistoric Nationals tournament coverage and archival footagementioned

Sentiment

positive(0.78)— Commentary is enthusiastic and collaborative; players and commentators display camaraderie and genuine appreciation for skilled play. Some frustration expressed about machine defects and venue conditions (glare, noise), but overall tone is celebratory of tournament experience and community bonding.

Transcript

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this is the uh extended dvd uh criteria collection uh audio alternate uh alternate commentary yeah so uh right here when Steven Bowden was talking i think he what he was saying is alexander win this is it 2-0 or do you guys get a third game i was already asleep last night it's 2-0 spoiler alert but there's a moment where he he may or may not have it because he doesn't check bonus for some reason maybe he doesn't want to know uh and he does you don't even like to know what score you have while you play right unless i do okay i can tell you that uh guardians is definitely a game where i wanted to get a couple of x multipliers you could have like a hundred yep because i will shoot that guardian target uh as if i'm shooting it for 40 mil right there was that was collins out right there it's like how much does he have in bonus don't know don't care what would that have to do with the outcome of the game one more option there's one more almost center drain where he makes a nice save but that save right there was that that was saved us game three so i mean this is kind of like old school when you guys used to do the commentary post match when you already knew what happened wow i don't think he's going to get him here guys i just don't just the way he's been playing today blah blah blah blah no i always called it like even when i knew the outcome i called i would call it like calling my own match afterwards he's like you know i just i don't feel it here i can hear it in your voice josh that you're not going to win this game when when i did it with kaylee he actually hadn't ever watched the match like it was yeah because he never did his homework and i'm like all right kaylee something really cool happens just just hang in there i think i've ever you and steinman doing nationals with uh keith and bowen with that fishtails game and simon having no idea it was gonna be like this six billion to two million games he just blew his mind and uh we actually got to see the finals on uh that medieval madness final game that's right the camera was working hey steinman had some outtakes uh real at some point yeah that uh early early on ones yeah it'd be funny because that's like ten years ago now it'd be funny to hear our it's ridiculous that's a long time jesus all the finalists the final four were not born yet when you guys did that commentary i found some video footage from uh six in london i got neil shatz playing on centaur for like and and he's alley passing all the time it's like oh my god i was going to release it in the wild it is there it is so beautiful the last game of bowen and uh yorian i got some oh was that black black hole i think yeah or not black hole uh black yeah is it uh no uh black out black yeah yeah yeah blackout yeah that was the uh the nexus of the uh time out your tilt on the cell phone [Laughter] i was i almost put when we were playing yesterday i almost put my phone on the uh yeah just as an homage to the originator of the phone the phone tilt amber's like what's he doing why is his phone on the live bar i'm starting to tread everyone yeah i'm a trendsetter brands look out so uh carl you would tell us if we were live right or are we live we went live oh i didn't realize that you didn't even say anything that would get you in trouble yet yeah yes we have baited him yeah no because we're all friends here yeah so if uh if you're joining us we're uh getting ready for the finals of the 35th expo flip out uh josh have you played all 35 i have not i've my first expo was 88. wow but i just feel like my dad wouldn't let us play oh were you did you want to play like you would have yeah yeah out of zach would know zach what year did we first play expo what year did we first play expo tournament what was the game zack said he was 12 so that's like 90 that's like 2083 [Laughter] so the big game then would have been fun house no no that's 97 it was gonna be adam still that was always the game ever since he was released that was the best game ever it never occurred to anyone not to play game of the year ten years in a row wait wait you should use other games in tournaments WHO dunnit awesome maverick might have been maverick yeah what's the deep strat on maverick kaley what's the uh what's the looping strat on uh you play the bell mode something lauren bell and then multiball independence day was after maverick oh there's an upgrade i played i played independence day in pembroke round last year like round one who is that expo then where's trent maybe that'd make a good coffee table book the one shot strat for every game in tournament pinball all right we got time this is great you're going to love this so kaylee on the beatles uh tell me tell me a little bit about the beatles how many songs are there there's five modes right there's five modes so what do you do what do you do in each of the modes well i i prefer to play the the loop mode uh no no i'm talking about the other modes no the loop mode the loop so like heart all the songs like like the uh there's a spinner song what are you doing spinner song oh you shoot the loops because it hits the spinner and then you shoot more loops until it's done what do you do on the pop bumper song well on the pop over sean you shoot the loops to time it out because they're they have good value okay the magnet pulls it into the jab so you can't really keep looping but you still go back to the loops yeah of species drop targets tell me about the droppings you shoot the loops because the targets aren't worth anything okay but in multiball yeah well in multiball you shoot the loops because it's switch hits the light jackpots and then when the jackpots let you shoot the loop because that's where the jackpot's at and then after multiball then you shoot more loops okay i'm sensing a theme here so uh yeah that would be that could be on the cover of the uh coffee book shoot loops tale of flail you uh you shoot the lock upstairs you keep doing that uh so hours alexander picked this in every round as you guys can see here though they removed the catapult assembly they're putting in coins and pressing start oh those are instructions they're gonna be doing that they're gonna be hitting the flipper button that's gonna cause the paddle unfortunately on this one this is a an early version and underneath that flipper they decided to put a little uh canyon divot oh for the ball decision for the ball to get stuck yeah because it's a good idea to you know they want to cut a little weight out of the game so they routed this little divot there and for some reason nobody's decided to just put some sticky tape or anything in that hole i suggested mylar i mean so if you disabled the flipper though it would that would be a way of covering the divot and then the ball would win win the ultimate win-win so this game played longer than all the other games combined without the ball getting stuck add the extra time of the ball getting stuck and it's and we're playing this morning and that's why we're here this morning uh hopefully the the hardcore uh pinball watchers stayed up all night in case in case we could have gone live at any time any time uh but so alexander picked this he played i want to say five times yesterday six times uh never failed to exceed i think because 350 was his his bad game uh he put up maybe 500 or so again he's been benching 350. yeah yeah 10 reps uh keith ellen is the only one to have beaten him on it that was impressive what was weird about that is keith went to the effort of chopping the wood and getting the seven or 800 million to beat him but he picked beatles first first in the in that round and lost he said he didn't want to chop wood so he picked beetles and then lost and then he went pick second because he knew he'd go to black knight and then chopped wood and then and then he lost on uh alexander beat him on uh jurassic park yeah on the slide table gillette jurassic park with the center drain off the punch yeah i don't know his heart didn't seem in it at the end so uh they did stick it to me with that snake shot jerk that was let's talk about that so there was a game of awesome wounded me deeply a deadpool and uh so kaylee what what what's your little thing on deadpool that you do that takes a really really long time but can be effective do you want to shoot that left ramp over and over again you like the left ramp it's sort of the uh the beatles loop shot for you yeah you get three uh you get three smart bombs yeah and then you get yourself into something good and then you keep shooting your left ramp and when you're about to light the fourth one and turn into a super bomb you pop off your smart bomb and you get back to three you do it over and over again the little bombs are better than the big bomb yep nice you used to use the big bomb back when uh megalodon was yeah but not so much the eevee on the smart on the smart bomb is have you done the calculation did you ever figure out the mech suit super whatever weirdness i can't figure that out it does this weird call out sometimes and you can get like a 100 million jackpot i don't know how to do it what's the chances this guy steps up and starts playing like 94 percent he's looking around oh no man no what's the chance that jermaine steps up and starts jermaine's gonna have a look hey if like nobody else reports he's he had a good run he finished yeah top 16 maybe better than i and that's like usually in tournaments like if you're in the top 16 you're a little bummed but when you look at the field here this year that's crazy there's not enough room for everyone to get into the top 16 oh my goodness when when you lose at the wrong time and then you just see your decision tree and the loser's bracket and there were a couple rows this year that were you josh you were in i was in a fun one kaylee you guys were both you were in the row of death this year oh yeah there's a lot of action those good times jim belcido was down there yeah uh leslie leslie ruckman ruckman beat jim yeah all right and that was all for the right to play on black knight in alexander who who who survived uh kaylee you you were the victor to play alexander that's right and how did it go did he pick black knight he picked uh no he didn't pick black knight huh um what did we play he beat me on deadpool and then you would have picked something my pick was deadpool he got the first to smoke a cigarette what was that i'm like no son i don't have anything this is in colorado colorado that was young uh Escher Lefkoff who will be facing alexander and interestingly alexander always would go first on black knight because it was his choice and he never failed to put up 150 or 200 on ball one and so to try to break up the rhythm escher's going to actually choose to go first out for colin urban colin urban i for whatever reason was convinced by some old guy to do that tim uh and colin put up uh about a million really and but here's the thing i think it works both ways like if you put up a big score it puts pressure but if you don't they they they lay down and they lay down man yeah so it's win-win no matter what happens the sean grant uh whatever pinball minutiae of your inner soul yeah exactly um escher it's more of a practical thing for escher it's well at least he won't have to play ball three if i don't catch him and truly you're not changing your strategy uh you got to get your your big payoff on the catapult super uh keith ellen did a 300 million catapult super on me in our in our match in game you have to defer locking until you've built up other stuff on the lower place so what he did was you want to hit your green targets to light your to make sure you got your 4x and then you never collect it and so you're playing catapult until it's done then you add a ball and then you you get more and more jackpots then you start your regular multiball get to extend get it get them up get a ball saver there get more jackpots use that at a ball get a ball saver use more more more jackpots now it's time for the kill shot skillfully straightforward send them all up top send them all up yep as as levy would say boom boom boom boom four times 4x boom we heard some booms in the uh the epc coverage uh here fred's uh making an adjustment to make it harder he's turning the power off so it's going to be whoever can can plunge whoever can get the ball stuck first yeah wins they're going to put god mode on this and you and you know usually they say you see the glare there in the middle of the play field and that but it's not like that for the players it's only the camera no no it's there it's right there it's there so all the talk of no more expo to worry about why it was liars it was so so the expo glare one hour a day the new glare 24 24 7 baby it's consistent it's the same for everybody adam you know oh like the it's the music starting today are we really gonna have music this morning wow yeah i was gonna say at least on sunday there's not like pulsing bass and like glow sticks oh escher was coming for the good noise-cancelling headset and i'm like i left it in the room and it's like no i checked out of the room it's right here there's like seven people in here what's with the rave party yeah on sunday morning are they back from church already brunch party somebody pulled the expo schedule pdf make a pinball anti-glare tent anti-glareton is the way to go at uh at uh colorado right yeah yeah they had the weird tent but it worked yeah it worked the tent was cool all right it's good times oh let's watch this tutorial catapult multiball esther is using the wheel of fortune esther is using my headset so i'm going to forget the uh otherwise he'll be listening to my playlist on the on the bluetooth ah this is how you can coach him while you're playing you go to like all right check your bonus now check your bonus son interesting he's checking his bonus scratches pin stadium a sponsor of this tournament probably we do have the we need we need the rocky mountain tents back yeah yeah but i want to take it one step further i want there to like be a flap so that nobody else can see all scores are hidden i think during qualifying go into the side room play your ball come out and your facial expressions and you're not even allowed to talk to anyone else until they're done there's there's two different sets of rooms the pre-room and the post room no information no phones no phones no one of these millennials kids here we go this is the expo finals they're playing for a pinball machine escher has chosen to be player one let's see if he can uh oh no no ball safe he's gotta hit the flail and survive all right he's up top how did he get up top he went through the flail yeah once it's uh it's already open to start there's one lock lit all right so first lock that was not right it started sand sword you have to you have to hit it twice you see the preferred maneuver is to hold the flipper up when it comes up to the upper play field or out of the lock [Music] all right so there's one that's uh there's two oh yeah here's you can drop cats out of it like that oh that would have been good he's got it look at that and good oh and plenty of time there we go all right so in this multiball now he wants to finish his mode and he's interested i've always thought do you want to do the crossover with the multi-balls like get your other multiball ready kaylee you know kind of like spider-man uh i think you want to use this multiball lock one it's for simple knights to just extend this this is where the value's at right yeah you don't want to bring it in too early no let's uh interesting use of his magna save early and during the multiball only to have the ball drained out i'm going to go on a out on a limb and say that wasn't good value for that one is at a ball now it's lit there he goes so now he wants to boost his catapult to 4x just get that out of the way right yeah yeah where do you boost that at you got a on the green target he's going to hit the target to the to the right of the yeah yeah to the top of that's right there so he's got one blinking light which means he's a 2x if he gets two it'll be three and three it'll be four x is that his second lock lit now on the uh lower play field yeah all right so he's out of his uh catapult now did not cash in any juicy jackpots but what uh why didn't that lock ready yes uh he has to he got the second lock he's gonna he's gotta hit the target oh he wants to bring another boat yeah yeah flail isn't super dangerous on this one now he's ready to go back upstairs and try and get back to catapult yeah this time you got to hit the green light each time to light the lock oh what was that didn't want to go on the fly back up the uh the ramp no it looked like he was wanting to uh post catch and the proper term josh is one timing up there one timing yeah yeah it's not on the fly it's one timing okay yeah we've got some one-timers uh playing in classics right now to our right so uh this is a regular multiball which he's like dad this multiball is really valuable even on its own um he'll show you he can stack in uh so he's draining right oh boss is out now and he's well he's playing his mode as well well he was i don't know we'll see his his out of balls ready so so add a ball dump them all i would like to see that especially now that he's down to two he there's a good grace period here but all right here it is bam all right now dump yeah dump it up no i guess he's oh he wants the second line there's a there's a there's a one-timer all right now he can focus nice all right all right so he needs to get one going all right nice yeah back in the category all right so great like and like to see him uh yeah good shot right there i think he wants to build that super to 4x again yeah just get it out oh he's got it already he's got something one more yep he's at 3x right now i like the sixth ball trap all right somebody screaming yeah somebody screen capture that that's a six ball trap oh little stage in action i believe last night alexander had two on on each bottom and two up top uh when you see that many balls being controlled only five this is why these guys are in the finals this amount of control is what you need on the modern games oh that was pretty unlucky oh he still had his out of ball come back yeah dump them oh okay so now he really wants to hit a i think he's ready for a jackpot up there it's right here cash cash what is he doing right there there it is how much 22.5 where's the 300 man oh that's a that's a keep elwin thing this is more no you need flipper code yeah so what was the meta yesterday cycle balls into the lock uh shield over and over again that build super urban thought about he started just shooting the shield over and over from the right and then just back each one so each one's a jackpot but then the jackpots were like 450 each and it kind of broke his spirit because you got to do it like 30 times 30 times just nothing oh that all right that was a better magnet save there i i applaud that one meanwhile his oh nice post catch i applaud that one if you weren't my son i'd love you [Laughter] uh-oh that was unlucky it rejected see if he gets another try oh he does get another try there it is getting a lot of pop action there oh 1.5 mil mystery oh oh it wanted to do it all right so now take a deep breath no why because you're you're but that's the flail's open the first cycle is done and now you got to really now it's time to grind is he doing hurry up oh he's got his knight's lit look at that yeah you definitely yeah nice you want to cash this in on ball one again this is all about putting a little pressure on alexander to do the same thing this is what alexander was doing every time whoever he was playing against so this multiball you got uh what play field scoring the number of balls in play right three x scoring if all three he'll get at least one of those back maybe two let's see should you get two yeah all right so three x you can't really catapult's not active here but you can loop it right you can do loops like he's doing oh look at that loops gonna be worth about five million yeah yeah i saw four milli let's see and then more the more you do successively he's trying boom ah man there's a lot going on it's hard because you train your whole life shoot loops yep this is this is the way to play knight's challenge oh oh oh there it is there's his stuck ball he knows it's stuck he's gonna he's gonna post catch this look at this fred richardson there and that's right there escher will always trap up when there's a ball he will never exploit it and anyone who thinks that he would is it's dead to you yeah it's it oh yeah hey i did i'm no i'll take becker's money though i think all atoms get all the same money gets paid in canadian do you guys split oh no never mind you know i didn't know about that it's payday yeah we all just got paid not as much as the boys there was no dumping in this tournament at all let's see so let's see 325 is 160. zach owes me wait a minute 35 bucks i'm sorry why are you splitting the money somehow are you on air you were saying that you know what zach i bought him some diapers for his kid i'm just evening out some money from outside of this let's be clear uh but that was really nice to ask your nice post catch there to not take any advantage of the stuck ball you know my my instant reaction is that i would be post passing that other one to the left right now i don't know why but like that's just me post pat should get him on the left is when he opens up the door is it going to go into a ball saver it's just they're all going to do they need to you get ball saved no i know but will the flippers go dead because they interlock i don't believe there's interlock on this version but what the problem is you need to get into ball search because the ball search the the shield going up in ball search actually kicks it out you can also rattle it out with the left flipper so if they just move the ball from the left flipper to the right tell me more about this interlock you said yeah i you know it was a long night we were up late he'll get all those balls back we'll get all these balls back and up top where those that's right uc 3x loops that's the meta get it stuck and you get three three shots at the catapult haley how do you get the ball stuck [Laughter] there's one i want to see all three going oh train train time now was that because he felt bad that he had he didn't on the bottom that he wanted to get back to as close to the state careful oh is he already it's a mystery oh okay i thought that was looking like a joke yeah all right can i'd love for him to take a moment oh he's still doing two look at that that was that was great that was really nice i like to see him dial into this it's now we're at 2x multiplier so get around if you guys were thinking about having lunch after this match i would suggest eating lunch before the match and then having a nice dinner while we watch game three of the eventual ah oh this is it's crazy so fast it's a munchkin loop you gotta hold it up after the second one it'll auto automatically auto the double do the lips get higher if you do them in combo like does it yeah yeah i believe it's 500k plus or something i don't know that i've ever done two in a row i'm still thinking about flipping this you should hold it up after you hit it see what happens after the second one it's got enough speed you think it would make it around i don't know i think if you do two like hold it up for the third one yeah that's your being one of these millennial types thinks he can just keep flipping the right time faster than you even if it's two hundredths of a second he thinks he'll he'll be able to do it that's a good little that was uh do you get any points at all for the catapult 110 points second shot score 10 points tell me more can i do it safely so when we were talking about it it's it we think it's basically about a 350 million per ball is the is the pace the pace you want to be on the the six minute mile pace yeah did you know that the second knights challenge on the premium has a different mode it's 2 000 right yeah i was surprised by that the one time i played this game and just wanted all just wanted to sort it it's different how does it work yeah it's it's a black knight 2000 that whatever that's ransom with all the you know you get like oh does it put a ball in the shooter lane so you have an eb does it do that thing yeah oh yeah you remember you know ransom it puts a ball in the shooter lane and then just starts and you don't have to plunge it and then like well you do have to plunge it but yeah but you but you can purposefully drain and it puts it back in there and then you don't do we have to oh there we go all right two two up top baby now i thought alwyn was just flipping enough to get it out could he uh no he needs to be he could post pass it's the left flipper that that does straight enough yeah weird but surely escher will say to himself that uh he would prefer to have both walls up top yeah yeah wow so this game decided that it was going to be like an awesome idea to bring something from black knight 2000 rules-wise into it yeah well it's so i heard for black knight 4 they're gonna take it's gonna be a whole mashup of all the three different so there'll be a there'll be a mode and black knight four that will be this where the ball gets stuck and then and then you have to yeah is there a display effect of a td coming out of the display there's going to be no inlanes or outlanes the ball will play until you're done and then you just leave it there'll be a left orbit that feeds the upper play field and then the center shot that feeds the other play field and nothing else scores so uh esther looks it looks like he wants to try a loop here how much is it how much is the ramp shot is it like 50 points to get back that was a good dig it counted as the next one too look at that that was quote unquote like five in a row yeah it was worth 20. oh so close i just added 10 to a score in about 20 seconds so i'm not i like to i like him going first here like otherwise you have to sit and watch someone else do the exact same thing oh nice bounce yeah sometimes it's depressing even if you know that you can that you have to do the same thing like ah come on seems like the catapult ought to do something in this like it doesn't have to play multiball but maybe at a ball every time how about i get an idea how about subtract a ball it just it's like fireball it locks it and you're you're done you don't back down like your multiball is over sorry we need more more modes with bad shots to do bad things now none of this is a surprise like we knew this is what they were and as a tournament director he was happy to turn ball saves off all over the place pull rubbers all over the place wouldn't you just say should we volunteer our three envelopes to stick in that spot from our uh just so nothing will get stuck oh i was thinking more if we could buy the game and then expo express it out but then what are we going to do with the player we're only one sixth into this game folks um we're not on last night last night uh trent was uh mercy ruling it a bit yeah maybe after this we should do we should do like 500 mercy rule delayed balls like when you get to the 500th stuck ball that's a there's a there's a there's like an 80 foot long roll of like double-sided tape over there no this is way more fun where's fred tell him to put hey tell him to put a piece of mylar or something or tape or something on there can you tell him to do that though oh esther just unstuck it on his own oh we're better off a new meta they're they're cargo shorts actually kayleigh uh okay okay it's big boy shorts there you go thank you oh three wow that was you got three is that does it count is it still going oh yeah yeah yeah seven wow ooh that was beefy huh this is a quick uh 50 million so you know what i'm i'm i've oh three four yes yes got time you got time whatever you do give esther more chances to learn how to do this that's what we need uh i'm uninterested in catapult super suddenly i believe the meta has just changed before our experience just looping yep so for those of you dozens of people on chat are watching right now you live real time you have just seen the meta shift the light bulb has gone off i can just tell by kaylie's eye the gleam in kaylie's eye right now you mean there's something with uncapped unlimited scoring by shooting one thing over and over again left the booth he's gonna go play the other black knight simpson like drooling with his head sideways yeah five six five is the new base now kelly do we have to worry about the uh transistor blowing on that left flipper hold yeah i don't know is it a new is it a new mech now on the newer games a different system it's not double bound coils so it's still like sitting there going still pwm yeah like 300 000 times a second or something like that to hold that flipper up that puts no strain on that transistor at all he's got a post pass to the right and then back to the left just to give it a little break so okay we got a few more black knights here that we can pull boards from and for everyone watching if you are still watching uh we chose to be in the booth like we knew this was going to happen uh we all three we just kind of wanted to chat we figured that this was the best chance you just have we never played background vocals here i don't get to see you guys very often it's really cool to uh to hang out and just chat eight seven five eight eight that was kind of a shitty boost by the way sexton's like enough six six that's gotta be the new base okay there i like it that ball is sorry you you can get that ball back when you get back to regular play eight nine eight nine five that's weird it's like level the third one it's only 50. did the catapult boost it was that the 57 why does it come out some oh there yep he's got the uh the correct cadence so if i'm td here and i have a flight to catch i let asher play out his ball one and then i have i have him delay his balls two and three and i add them if necessary even though it's you know alex is going to do the same thing yeah then he can do the same thing right but when do you do that like trent i let him play out ball one all right it's just it's just ball turned alex's game off during this mode yeah when he was at 300 million and it's like man he could have been to a billion on that so yeah in between balls that's i'm fine with that as uh escher's uh representative yeah doing it mid multiball is such that was holy [ __ ] like like oh he did pass your score well here here's a ball you're not multiball you're [ __ ] it's a new game you can fall one on a fresh game that's kind of weird just pick up right where you left off that's cool i wanna i wanna see if we can get a uh a patented raymond i'm i'm gonna hey ray what go look go look at go look at essus oh he's still in retro mode yeah just watch these upper loops they should just be the black knight so edgar should pick this game for game two he [Laughter] should he do that just to show trent that that long-standing rule should be abolished um we do have a flight at nine o'clock tonight and i thought we were gonna be okay but and what's good is is asher and alexander both still trick or treat for halloween so they can go as the black knight both of them halloween yeah so here at expo uh of course you can't pick the same game twice in a match but your opponent can pick the same game that you picked so escher could pick this uh escher could pick it again and i don't really see any reason why he wouldn't other than you know fatigue uh carpal tunnel but it's the morning for him he has like a full tank of gas he's got like at least 12 hours of gas yep i'll say esther as soon as you finish you have to go to online school so the longer you play what's he thinking about right now is he thinking about the game or is his mind wandered to other stuff i think he's thinking about maybe well no he uh we're gonna be uh going to steamboat in a couple months to uh learn how to ski with uh australian friends and uh maybe he's thinking is esther gonna slow down at a billion uh he might right here he missed he missed a ramp oh my god he's had to think for the first time in like a long time at least at least oh oh oh oh oh oh one out of panic oh clip that yes double bag to save oh no it's over he didn't get the bill what was i saying what was his was his mental uh the target of bill and then he started getting close all right oh you know what i mean like you're you're at 300 million act like it's just yeah but you know what it was more of the flipper starting to not he hit the flipper the exact same every time the upper loop is still four million is it did we see that no it wasn't 4-2 it wasn't being multiplied i think it was that's why it was at like eight but i guess that's not just part of the uh the wizard mode is that just normal gameplay for the loop up there oh gosh it's just loops all day oh no please you don't even need i wish we don't have go so is this loop it looks like about plus 10k like the wizard motorcycle you don't have to worry about burning out a transistor by holding a ball of the other flipper you your benefit is only double scoring do it so you just have to do it twice as long as what you're saying so this is this is this is the modern shadow and more efficient the loop's much quicker i bet that value holds ball to ball nice nice so all those misses on the catapult are are great value on their own yeah i'm pretty sure if escher wins this tournament he's definitely gonna want to pick a black knight because i think he'll want to play this a lot more at home he can only win the pro right so he'll be he'll be able to make dinner every day but what's the resale on this game i don't know lots you kidding after this i think you'd be better picking a different game that was trading it for cash plus a black knight to somebody else he did a really nice uh to get into that elwynn he did uh he he laid he alleyed over and then post caught behind the second ball and got to the elwynn pose that was a really nice subtle that's awesome oh and now he's doing a little colin urbaning oh is he playing the mode what about the super mode is that yeah he's just keeps backhanding as i said this is the collin mode this is this is what he was trying to do during catapult before he knew about the loop meta okay a little he's showing so what he can do is show every meta and then we can evaluate its ev uh oh oh oh he he added a ball that a ball was lit it was it was bogging too much too much stuff was this catapult multiball or i lost track yeah okay yeah yeah okay so kaylee what should he be doing in this uh catapult multiball now oh well definitely uh not shooting the upper loop he's still it's really slowed down for him though oh oh nice staging nice staging for those who don't i don't know we don't really we're not talking about rules but esther has two trapped on the bottom and if you half flip the uh oh we got it if you have flipped the button you can flip the upper flipper uh unless it's beetles in which case it's reverse flipping will flip the lower one while keeping the upper one blocking your shot for those who enjoy that sort of thing i'm waiting for the sexton code update where the flail stays closed and the drop target stays up the whole time and you just cannot get back to the upper play field period i i i'd like you to get up there and feel good about it but just don't let the flipper work like don't you can't do anything up there you can just just watch the ball wipe your hands or something it's a break yeah you could what do you think his uh bonus will be kaley oh that's a good question he should really trap up and check because that would probably you don't want to like that could be a 200 million oh we'll find out 150 only 107 [Applause] whatever bonus is based on it's not loops wouldn't it be cool if it was though i had the theater a magic tragedy yeah i understand that you've changed the meadow all right alexander going up for trying to get right we want to try two and there's lock three well you know he can only pick this for game two if he loses this game oh that's not true so maybe he finds a way to dequeue himself just so he can play is that like the power move no but that's just very nice uh oscar meyer there from from alexander and no no it's not just it's just taking a nap for the moment escher had figured out the cadence of upper flip to do it i believe the uh if a rule says that a ball trapped under a flipper is okay it's not a stuck ball i don't know what you're talking about yeah if it's it's kind of like um climate change it's unfixable there's nothing we can do it's like a ball on an insert between the flippers is uh not a stuck ball unless it's on stellar wars excuse me i'd really not like to drain here it's like it's literally right above the flippers in between that big giant gaping hole it's it's like healthcare there's nothing to be done it's an unfixable problem other than you know put a piece of probably literally any material but then we don't get to see fred's face every three to five minutes so josh if you're if you're alexander here and you've watched escher do the grind on ball one what do you what's your approach here what i mean he's whatever he's 17 so he's not old and jaded yet so he'll just do it rather than yeah i noticed i didn't ask you kaylee because kaylee will never will would it never ever concede ever under any circumstances never did he uh i would not i wouldn't concede here because first worst case first game one morning i'm playing just to play i agree i'm and i'm more than suggesting that he can see it i'm just talking about his mindset does that it definitely maybe take you know he's the one that puts the big score up first he's used to that it's a little harder to we're going to find out he handles it and based on their match last night i would expect that escher still has to play ball two because he is not in the lead somebody plays a really big baller game it's like makes it so much easier because there's way less thinking you think you know you have to do the things yeah they do the good stuff right like sometimes chasing just a few points can be a lot harder yeah like somebody puts up like 50 billion on attack from ours you're like okay i guess that right it's time to just either grind out tas or rule or just get billion jacks just 50 of them yeah actually it's 25 yeah exactly and you get about uh about 6 billion base value to get there to start with so a little less 20. so our catapult jackpots let's see because he could be doing like the colin urban here oh that was nice i like that the oh no i don't i don't like that oh what's going on here what happened his other ball's in the lock but he likes to put both balls in play all the time yeah that's it's uh that's what the kids do it's sort of colin urban i think oh tale of flail like right there yeah what you know the other one's coming well but he had it available for the flip over oh that was also unfortunate oh no you have to find my instinct for what i would do with some of these balls is different than what alexander right there was nice he did his little post pass before so he had the flipper available he uh he's also playing in the classics tournament which we have going on uh to our right that would be the viewers left right i have put myself in line for a car josh you can do the same thing oh is that they're up to our bracket yeah who am i playing is the brackets i don't know so this will be extra entertaining because both josh and kaylee uh i guess are you going to do the one-man booth oh everyone run away look at that there's a 96 oh 96 million super just needs nine more of those there's a nice little ostermeyer oh did not did not come through but uh he will be right back so on top of everything else you get away with uh you get six balls this this game you get away with a full side save very nice yeah per uh per Keith P. Johnson every time uh uh you're you're able to save a ball that's as if the game was set on more balls than three is that right is that how the thread went yes you're stealing yeah and this game is is poorly set up on uh more than one warning uh per game [Laughter] how about per tournament like have you i'm sorry alex have you used your warning yet previously yeah you're out of them sorry you have to stop now yeah we're coming out with a new system uh we have player cards you uh you get there before you scan before you play and it houses your uh in-disk entry system as well as the number of tilts you've chosen to buy from the front counter uh whether you're coming in at five warnings or three it's 10 for a dollar yeah we're implementing a pay-to-win micro transaction system that flail can be really scary when it comes right back down uh alexander has a wonderful slap save on top of all of his other skill sets talking about it with escher in the room that that's like one of the goals in the tournament on your bingo tournament bingo card hearing hearing ray freak out on something about something oh man i was thinking the other day that we should create a bingo card for next pinburg okay and it has different things dinner different experiences you have with the people in your group like somebody playing out of turn somebody's saying that was the best game i ever had how about if all three players and your other three players in your group all have the same name oh yeah that sounds good yeah yeah somebody walking away from a ball save that someone else yelling balls yeah so somebody else had ball safe ball safe it's gotta be two what's that it's penberg i'll yell ball save yeah you sure you should you can get your that's a free spot for you i needed to film my car what do i win without my bingo card exactly there's only uh like maybe five or ten percent of the time where the ball is ever you're in danger of your turn ending on this game are we missing something but we're not we're not in that time period zach would like us to start commentating on the game so uh alexander is at 200 million okay now back to what we were talking about before yeah ready aim fire that's a good card on the bingo you had to play that i play it every year i don't think i haven't ever not played it this is right how do we know what did what his super value is at it's he's got four you just have to do math it's every it's the it's the total of every catapult jackpot which is i believe every shot so is there any value to having one big catapult which is intimidating and crushing versus many smaller 4x catapults which are the same value i don't believe so uh there might be some value every time you hit it it raises it everybody maybe the base raises after the super would be the only value proposition of holding on can you get an 8x catapult by looping and then stuffing it in the lock uh no you cannot although that would be an excellent way maybe multipliers tim's in chat he's writing it all down right now that would actually be pretty cool like the multiplier rule for the catapult is based on you can either just hit it for a single or you can loop it hit it for the double and then you could double loop it for the quad like you know the the loop and the catapult itself is too crusty to actually have that rule be meaningful like making that combo shot actual execution yeah it's two there's one two lucky 46. yeah but you know you can do is loop it at the same time a ball is coming up from the plunger um true you'll note that he has uh night's challenges ready too after this oh loops challenge so uh knight's challenge will be ready after this oh that's fun that's where escher got 700 of his i feel like uh 600 i feel like alexander is a lot more efficient with his catapult scoring than escher but escher was uh getting more loot power he's trying to trap up here because he's got a he's got a stuck one he's gonna he's he's trying to get it this is all fine this is all kosher he's still trying that's fine he knows it's stuck all right that's unlucky we can pretend we know what's happening is the internet gonna lose their video or is it just us okay so in chat try and figure out whether we can see the game or not right so uh i'm gonna guess the ball stuck uh probably yeah i'm thinking that he's lost every single ball in the playfield and now i'm imagining the ball is all being plunged up top and then he's going to get to another four or five ball trap you know i just looked over their direction and saw the game completely powered down and then i realized i was looking at the black knight next to them and i figured maybe fred had just turned it off in a complete rage you're done yellow card for fred that's something that that uh larry used to do at shorty's tournament as if you're if your match went on long enough he would threaten that you were both gonna lose if you didn't finish within the next five minutes prisoner's dilemma right there do you take the do you take the split or do you try and win it all yeah by telling the other person you're getting trent and i had that rule imposed on us on a batman dark knight at shorty's yeah we got extra balls on i wonder uh why carl decided to switch some cables right now though i think he's just actually started packing up to leave they're trying to get everything consolidating so he rolled up that hdmi cable absolutely 110 sincerity huge shout out and thanks carl d'Python Anghelo yeah of never drains and ie pinball uh ridiculous as much as the players produced the meta carl carl had produced the meta of how tournaments are covered yeah and carl wasn't even expecting to be streaming today he was supposed to have gotten to pack up last night yeah and he got up this morning and he packed up last night and then unpacked it all again this morning just so we could watch black knight for a while did he pack it up last time yeah party because the party they couldn't guarantee it would be safe yeah well they had all those punky beats going on so everybody if you see carl thank him if you could uh like and subscribe to his channel it would really help him out he needs bits is that what they get on twitch i don't know give him your free uh your free twitch subscription for the month i don't know i ever gotten a check from twitch uh bits stuff no he told me he got a hundred bucks once after grinding minecraft forever or something oh it wasn't even there's he has a slush fund in uh the bermuda i don't know what uh what's right nice challenge happening i love uh alex post catch and oscar meyer uh it's great flipper control it's partly why he's so successful there's a fine line between playing with your food and effectively stopping the ball every time and i think he's on the good side of of that line it's a fine line though uh not everybody's on the correct side of that i think i think there are some there's too much food i'm always on the wrong side of that i'm like i'm gonna live catch this for fun that's gonna be great all right right here oh no he went on the flight you see how the flipper barely even got up there would you consider that a one-timing it up there look at this look at this yes all right i'm sure he was paying attention let's see how he oh yeah loop look at this goes a lot quicker with 3x and it's still going add it on yeah keep going long grace timer yeah uh oh you said tim sexton's in the chat is that right yeah yeah the code's fine don't change it he was good i'm good he was watching last night while alexander did the very same thing he was in person i'm i'm i'm looking at right now i'm saying three bills just gonna win this that 350 ball ah that was a that was under it's a billion a ball yeah as as esther points out uh this is his biggest this is his best tv left in the first cycle of the whole thing and it's over right he's back to one ball play yeah i didn't see what happened he lost our stream oh well moving around carl's doing all sorts of fun stuff going back up he's one lock from catapult so look at that is this will this be his third uh catapult uh yes it will this is it's only a second it's easier to post catch on for some reason i don't know what's up with that uh just the position i think the slings are slings are slight just a smidge lower yeah they should uh you know you if you measure and the anc get the angle and do them on all the games they're all slightly different and i think there's some up better angles for getting it done so this is like i said there's only about a five percent time during the game where the ball is in where you're in jeopardy of having your turn in right memories on double danger from way back by the way remember let's talk about the format here i don't think we've mentioned that so this is two out of three right yep yeah and escher has to win two esther's in the winner no he's in the winner's side yeah on the winner's side yep so alexander has win two matches two matches if escher loses two games he's still in it correct correct if alexander loses two games he's out so there's a chance in theory we could see three more games of black knight today and and in the perfect world the best world we could see four games maybe a tiebreaker if they tied on black knight well we could we could see uh uh escher lose here and he could pick black knight he could lose again then alexander could play black knight for the next one he could lose and then again all right so we have five we could have five more blocks and then and then and then potentially uh for game three if he won that then uh one could pick second they look great first we could have random roll for game five and then it could be black knight and that folks is how we're here at 2 a.m and who doesn't want to see this happen you got to think about all possibilities and you know tim in the chat is getting really excited because he can just see like way more way more play going on here that was uh that's the first first time alexander missed on the uh he tried to tried to flick tried to have the ball stop and it just went to the middle you think we're going to see uh a random 20 million points here that nobody's going to know where it came from and then people are going to be breaking down the scores did did you see that though fred doesn't even take the glass off now he turns it off and then he shakes it yeah i would i would pull the pull the coin door shake it escher's over there one of these times muscle memory is just gonna have him flick the power switch how about you uh you concede now if you're escher [Music] crazy my game i expect i was just playing for warm-up i was expecting to lose this one so let's just move on let's play something else all right let's see him do it here let's see who's gonna go to work burn new code in time for game three of five today that would be some service but i mean didn't lymon do that at papa brought some csi after kelly of all people oh man you know i love the over under post clip that guys on the internet right there he did an over under post pass underneath uh neil schatz used to love to do that oh it's great right it is one it's it's underused i'm kind of sad with lyman eliminating most of the uh valid playfield stuff we know you are yeah i wish he'd just put in some kind of mode that paid it homage you know right i want a mode where you're supposed to hit something and dump before you hit more switches over and over again this is that five percent of the ball where he can potentially uh have his turn end and then some the flail doing a shot making you flail um oh re-flail why is he still flailing oh he's out of oh do you think you forgot no that's why he went that's why he didn't get it out like he would have gotten it out for sure all right so we're at like a two and a half to one click right now yep so it's one two it's it's point five it's a half to one right now uh but you know it's hard at the start like escher's in jail cause he's he's playing without a net right now he needs to you know it's so easy to all of a sudden boom you know boom drain is there a third nice challenge that's different i do if you play the original or no it gives you a preview to bk4 it gives you a mode that hasn't even been implemented yet yeah what's the mode from junkyard all right the way which machine yeah it's an it's a meta type machine where you play time machine from junkyard and it's like an inception thing so i know ezra would love to uh get his catapult lit before having to actually make a shot down low look at that did it hold or it reset okay it's held he's at five mil huh those are not five mil because his 2x value would be 10. oh interesting so uh so just safely he can just shoot loops if he wants right now oh and it's kind of like the the the the the mini knights challenge if he can hit two in a row oh he went loop to ramp combo yeah oh yeah i want to see somebody boost that value to 20 million at 1x well you you very well might see that i know just the guy oh oh oh he has his center shot it's okay oh but it doesn't make it if tim's in the chat what's the boost is it is it ten thousand per loop uh oh flip gotta backhand it oh nothing's making it nothing's making it look he's posing for the backhand no way that's my boy oh that's that's good adjustment oh on the fly you should be able to make it whoa i don't know what that was a little uh sneaky in lane there what lock is in the shield right now let me go oh it's not lit it's not wet okay oh he's trying to use the using the the kick it up yeah yeah the uh look at the uk so uh catapults or loops uh loops gotta be loose right yeah i don't know he likes to you got to come down and hit your spinner a few times to make sure you're out of balls lit you want to get your switches up i guess loops are definitely better value right yeah i gotta believe it i gotta believe that loops are and why not just like pick off little catapults oh careful all right there's the outer ball mini pulse yeah does the upper loop count as a jack for catapult i don't believe it does no that's uh then then you're oh lovely i'm very forward thinking there oh let's do some maybe let's see if he does the urban here because he's in an opportunity to do the just for you know change of change of pace he's just i like it he's just doing the thing he's just doing the thing yeah he was rushing it oh put it back lovely okay two or three catapult jacks so 475 catapult jack so assume it's a 4x so 4x at so would like two million one eight yeah so you need about uh a hundred of those and then your uh supers listening skillful draining time for some nice look at that you tried to put it into that's that's a little greedy i gotta say but i love that but it was worth the try he went back up i love his uh when he's in game his in-game thinking is uh really exceptional i think i felt like he figured out elvira oh in uh in like one game took one game for this first instantiation of elvira oh good patience there lovely let's see if the see the only problem is though he didn't he hit it up the middle a couple times and it didn't go and so now it's like dead to him he won't try it again and it's like that's the thing you need from these millennials they need to try more right not be like justice yeah it is it is like oh i killed this game first time i can do it every time i can't make that shot anymore so it'll never go it'll never go up there again he's trying to do the uh the colin uh colin irvin was the first to think about doing this during catapult so i'm gonna i'm gonna give him credit with the naming of it somebody out there in chat is going uh if uh if you have been doing this strat at home on your black knight premium raise your hand on uh in chat and i'll uh i'll rename it tell me your name and if your name is colin too that would really be cool oh i how about i dump the ball oh he did it all right there's now he's got the good three oh you might as well get your next mode ready uh lupin we could he's halfway to the next night i'm kind of surprised this game doesn't have like uh some kind of playfield multiplier that just is just happening from the pop bumpers or i don't know random targets slingshots i forget as he he's it he's pulled the trigger like both both multi balls are active now yeah all right a light ball save yeah that colin urban no raymond has just heard about the colin urban um he's interested although he hasn't seen the correct the correct way to play this with loops um i gotta say this catapult's gonna be juicy if he can get it there it is let's see 74. that's not bad that's pretty good how many loops would that that was about six loops i mean his loop values at eight right yeah it is yeah that was time well spent oh yeah those hurry ups can actually get really really valuable but not compared to the other features of the game now what's up oh you got it all right oh 13. hey that's pretty one two loops all right loop loop oh no he's getting his uh his multiplier back up yeah but but he's he just spent 28 million to like 4x of nothing oh maybe yeah maybe he's maybe he's going he just got another night how do you get that i think the hurry up we'll give you one so uh good good deep knowledge there but i don't know whether the like the the super mode again compared to those loops well you still get the multiplied scoring i think in ransom so i want to say 2x but maybe i don't think it's three x oh maple ball yeah for ball and play oh is he done or upper loops multiplied by three or not in the second mode oh that's right he can't hit the center anymore so he's going to do the two shots up top which [Music] you know adds a great like you can that center is still fine but he's he's like oh the the drop target doesn't hurt he's he's he's saving the uh the right flipper for why is it on stearns you can always backhand the same side orbit but you can never do that in williams games i don't know why is that shirley you've you've talked about it she says all the time funky flippers oh that was a a panic flip he's in danger mode he is this is the five percent of the game we're good good loops all right he's got one long four nine back to cattle oh here we go tim commenting upper plate loop scoring 1.5 raises the value by 75 to a max of 10. so it does back consecutive loops and a hidden timer at 225 up to a max of five consecutive weeks okay so good value does it hold ball the ball i actually think not it didn't look like it no he his first one wasn't one and a half at the start of this ball right he was at like four and a half started yeah tim does it hold ball to ball there's some uh loose math there he's like it's not supposed to hold ball to ball and player to player and game to game unless you power cycle he gave he gave the right flipper enough of a rest that it it works again it's back yeah so he's just putting the right flipper and timeout for a little while with the left uh esther's got the cage right she'll get it he'll get it come on no do the left flipper there you go no coaching yeah that's why yes going drop target drop target down and now at least he's getting value in his mode towards another night letter the uh unfortunately up up top the green target is uh will spot you a uh oh reverse should be doubled so he's actually he finished his mo he got a night letter there because he finished his mode on the green target on the catapult because you want to incentivize people to go up top yeah i mean there's like two things up there there should be more stuff absolutely the next code update is going to be all about building your sword on the right bank of the lower play field i mean instead of that loop there should just be a ramp that just sends the ball like airborne into the middle of the game if you missed like you just like a goblin yeah get bent oh just just got enough to get up there so he's got a second lock lit for his next catapult oh oh there's alec did the same mistake or not a mistake just flub it's nice to see them occasionally like like they're not robots if they did it 100 of the time it really would go forever oh magna save just Keith Elwin has entered and has a funny expression when looking at the black knight game i suspect he's happy he's not not involved in this [Laughter] dragging his chair very far away survivor's guilt or [Laughter] did you have to play black knight in 2019 and you thought star trek was bad when yorian was here oh that was child's play i bet yorian can play two games in star trek during this i don't know that's part of the thing yeah right that's why you go first you got a rapid uh chimp flipping that uh did we miss his third catapult he just got it that went really quick it wasn't even wow ray it's not about modes so we kind of want to see this last night's letter right yeah and we can see the lane yep i think he can get it here uh you'll need to use his atta ball there he got it oh he backhanded it did he get hurry up for his night letter it's a lot yeah he did so he's good on night so we'll uh this is exciting we'll get to see the uh black knight two black knight 2000 homage lovely ezra seems more determined to keep the cradle nice might as well relights pretty quickly i think a better better wizard mode for that would be just like like that left orbit for a hurry up and then when you hit it it lights again you hit it you know lights again until you [ __ ] up oh i think that's how it used to work yeah okay oh come on get up there nice all right so he's got 4x super lit but he wants to build it do some urbaning yeah so just mine some points out of the lock shot and then back up top to collect is he he's not still in the hurry up oh that's that's one way to get the ball up there oh i don't think it's going to be i mean maybe 50 million but we want to see loops right yeah i'm disappointed he's not looping oh what's he doing tonight's challenge that a hopeful edible what was that all right no he used the animal wizard oh a rare mess live catch backhand look at that i love the ostomer there jeez there we go all right so here we go so read the screen yeah look at that boy doesn't that bring back memories we went to a christmas party last year at uh nate thompson's house and he has a black uh black knight 2000 and that's your first game he played it and he got to like 50 or 60 million like that was he just played black knight i'm like you want to play anything else he's like no i'm good is this a joke you get six seconds for this yeah or this is terrible it's over flipper's dead what so what did he get for it what was his turtle you could literally make that a hundred x four and a half mil trent accidentally changed the timer on it he was trying to change the timer on the modes but he changed the timer on that mode so it's supposed to go much longer but only six times as long so you get like eight million instead of one eleanor kaylee it's not the it's not the destination it's the journey okay that's what it's seeing the black knight 2000 screen coming it was worth it realizing that there is a second wizard mode after the first time you've ever done knights the value you got on that was the same as that's really special so lighting the lighting rule of the universe is all that you need to do you don't need to collect it no that and that's hard like how do you even do that that's so uh after you uh kill the universe is the president waving with hit her right hand or her left hand good question and it's weird because it it could be either it could be the front of are they waving away from you so i've always done it with my right hand when i wave back to her yeah well if you get a stuck ball enough and uh you don't get your victory laps he's he's so disappointed with that mode that he he lost the game good job coming up to the game he's got about a billion two to catch back up and uh soggy right flipper to do it with but if he just does loops the whole time he never needs to come back up top i think uh actually a really good uh strat here is to get the ball stuck so that they power cycle the game and it helps cool the uh right flipper so we want to see what his loop value is right it's supposed to be 1.5 million we won't because you'll just keep hitting the right he'll be canceling out every possible frame well now we might get one all right let's see well that was a weird post catch again this is very oh that's the one danger in this game if you're not in catapult don't get started you never get started so this is uh this is an important ball for escher just in the general sense of pinball and how it works no this is where you step in the gap you step yeah step on the throw step on the throat which is a bad analogy right step on the ground you don't want to have a hard high five yeah like kaylee you you're not you're never you never feel safe right no matter what's worse than people oh man oh so you're gonna be up one game yeah if you win the next one it's gonna be awesome yeah danielle you've won you have a billion i love that he didn't even try the flip the center shot he immediately went to his plan b which is uh oh this is so much trouble right here so much trouble good all right i don't yeah okay i was gonna say i don't like that backhand forehand doesn't seem much we could have dead bounce here if he wants the forehand there we go it's just the mentality when you play competitively uh with pinball no matter what you've done your opponent is just as good most of the time and can do the same thing so you oh did he start catapult again yeah oh this is good mode yeah i and that is that's an excellent point from raymond who's uh fourth chair behind us he would love to be on the mic here i don't have the when was the last time the three of us got to be uh they allowed us was it was papa it was papa seventeen or or nineteen winning on batman papa final so and donovan yeah and donovan was in that i think so yeah that was that was 17 or 16. yeah well he already had a clinch and he was going for the billion hurry up uh dark knight they were playing uh it was uh it was eight two two two it was it was an eight two two two so Joshua Henderson joshua Joshua Henderson was one of the four donovan and uh maybe not andre uh maybe replogle that year was he final four guy that year i don't know uh i'm sure the chat was that when donovan gave up a bunch of points johnny uh no on shadow that's right and you guys were like oh he was definitely not gonna kill me you were like you're like this ball is not ending without it's like really it's like but there's hundreds right oh no no donovan is in the zone all right so he's going to do a little urban in here just to uh cleanse the palette between meals oh that was nice oh he did not need to no he didn't have to break out there oh that was nicer i like that colin gets to participate even though he's out of the tournament oh did he even add a ball no uh we've lost track i had a ball when you got loops nice that's the plus 250 that tim was talking about yeah nice he's is this the last mode or you still got one more oh it's a backhand the backhand's fine lovely sketch it was it was elwin donovan Joshua Henderson no and bowen that's what pizza really all right i don't remember i don't remember keith it's easy to not remember keith when he doesn't win yeah i just assume that he's going to win when he's there was keith in the final four of the year you won caleb uh no me and zach knocked him and bowen out in this [Music] yeah that was uh that was nice uh 17. what game did bowen play out of turn there one of them i thought he tilted through on uh oh no yeah yeah i misspoke there was a tilt throw you said one eight at least it's good to be at one eight because then you kind of you have a target now like two bills is a good target it keeps you motivated i think it's the way he's flipping because alec was still getting that ball up but now he likes the backhand he's not pressing the button right yeah exactly he needs to press it harder you have to press it harder yeah clear give it more power six million oh look at that good patience oh that was great patience a little pump can you tell if he's bumping that or whether he's just flipping at the right moment very nice game one bill 929 and four people clapping so a clean 1.5 bill here for the win pick it pick it you're gonna pick the same game if you win i tried to talk esher into picking black knight but uh he gave me that look that teenagers you'll see it in a few years i love that we're doing the same thing by the way which is hey so since you won this game even though your opponent's still playing didn't you hear me though didn't you hear that i said i said if you win i did not say when you win so man you're probably gonna which game are you gonna pick to as your prize do you like people asking you that like like 10 matches before the end of the tournament hey so what are you gonna do with the prize money he needs to get this he's in right he's playing with one missed shot oh catapult bam oh catapult no quick train not because i want him to lose i just want this game to end i believe he'll pick elvira a second he might pick beetles though he was he played a lot of beatles zach would appreciate some more star wars home action so they can sell more of those games star wars homes assemble that yourself what's with the legs probably like you put the whole cabinet together because it's got like like hex bolts on the side i don't know how it ships what if there's a gap like like on black knight 2000 like just some other way for the ball to fall down uh oh yeah like behind like it's just more chance for the ball to come off the top maybe everyone could go and just cut remove the rubber that's here and it just falls right or you can remove like one or two of those posts yeah yeah carl can you oh clear the cleveland yeah i'm sure snow galvin could get her skills all and and uh come to your house and modify your body just get a mylar big piece of mylar where the ball falls from the top you'll be fine all right that sure takes game one oh initials oh let's see don't change the cam yet let's see what he does yeah it's very important initials s-u-n about dad how about a little shout-out to the old man mom here it is so what it's girlfriends in your teens it's wives in your 20s and then it's your kids initials in your 30s is that the yeah yeah that's how it goes and then when you're when you're single the whole way it's just uranus yes and then if you don't have any if you don't fill any of those categories then nes is your default value or our we will also accept rjs yeah do you know neil's uh middle name you know what the e is for it's elliot correct i don't think that's true no it's like ephraim or yeah jehovah elijah i don't know what rick rick j stetter's middle name is jurassic you know what i bet that i bet the chat knows that as well chat knows you can actually see carl's beautiful wireless rig man this is wireless video so escher and and uh and alexander had an awesome game of uh jurassic park last night escher opened up with an 800 million and uh was kind of everyone's like hey good job alexander came back and tied him with an 800 million t-rex mode where he made every shot like it was his t-rex 550 yeah it was a 500 when he started he'd raise it too no no not the multiple oh just just the uh chase t-rex or whatever though just the combo round all right i can't is this the right one or the left one it's the left one because the right one is powered off i have a feeling if alexander wins this that we will see home pin but uh that'll be up to escher to decide oh he's going for the super skill shot if you hit the c here ah is it so oh it's still available field valid playfield want to let it down valid playfield hear the old hear the old guy you know donovan it's time to find another shot so uh what there's no dna is there no ball save if you don't hit a skill shot i mean that's center right there's no ball save at all yeah period okay so also if you don't hit a stroke what if you don't hit eddie ramsey let me rephrase that question is this is the uh is this the ball save on now and the left out lane definitely means strength it's not it's a valid switch yes like ripley's the only valid switch on the entire playfield this is a good spot for escher here like he could really again he could go up a ball here i sensed a little frustration and alexander's black knight drain break break serve here and take it take it down uh that was a nice combo there oh look at this all right starting a dyno mode what do we do here boys i don't know in the game yet so i don't know i think thematically it's a little sad that like you want to rescue people in these modes rather than just like destroying them you uh if you finish one then that lights your control room which is your but at the same time really this game's about chaos multiball i think and also your raptor if you can uh do your uh smart messenger smart messages there's a lot to do here we're also wizard mode and is it safe to say that the meta for tourney has yet to be established absolutely everybody knows what's going on yeah but we know the t-rex modes are valuable the first t-rex mode is not the multiball on this uh it's like the uncle fester's tunnel hunt right you got to shoot three of the correct colored ones to end it or something but you can combo other ones to yeah build them to keep it going chaos has pretty good guaranteed value whereas raptor you need some good execution to get into the big money next level but then once you're there then you're pushing chaos out of the way and some of the mission uh control modes can be quite beefy you don't say from personal experience i'm saying from personal experience i played this guy on it uh yesterday and i needed about 150 million and i played the the right hand system reboot the right one the system reboot and uh made some shots in combo and got there so that was that was fun uh so hey quick before he does it is he going to go for the super skill again of course yeah and i like it because you need to change horses midstream what does it get you what is the c progress towards chaos it gets you the seats you don't even care about the skill shot you could shoot it later but you can shoot it now it just spells chaos completely that would be that way but it has to be but every other switch is a tilt that would be amazing that would be like the best rule ever no just how about it has to it has to have hit the inlane switch within two tenths of a second i want to see some weird ass rules like that in the game to be awesome the ultimate risk reward yeah i want to see something where like ball's life is at stake but the scoring potential for execution is insane here we go i think uh alexander might have felt that too he like he took a moment there so let's see plunge johannes do that as well on the moderns i don't know what that was i don't know how to do it do you think there's a slack channel for the under 18 crowd that goes global where they're totally disgusting right now but asher's also in the chat so because that right there i mean that was oh jesus escher needs to do skill shots just regular skill shots yeah yeah i agree i think you will quite a few people have been put in a funny position when their opponent has about 30 million what's he putting on right now adam what's putting on the headphones he uh these are millennials no he's listening to music but he has a giant playlist and he and he puts it on random play it's not just episodes of spongebob he puts it on random play what about like motivating comments from your father of just like you can do this son oh god though right ramp oh he's going spinner oh oh yeah you don't want to oh did he get it no oh nope what was that was he going for the ramp yeah all right h bam i'm gonna go play a classics game all your returns see the end car hop car hop it is oh uh oh oh god that end lane was really he got two of those in a row all gods have had enough of black knight they don't want to see another one is he kind of playing his his paddock mode as well like he froze the the dinosaur there spinner to side ramp combo the rest of the game yeah so he really wants that a it's it's juice right now oh is he gonna get it not three not three no no so he uh he's two he's three letters away still from his chaos but uh this could uh i mean there's a as we say at home there's a universe where he doesn't have to play ball three at 10 million on jurassic park uh alexander is really good in this situ like he he's so is that uh that's the match that's the match escher lefkoff continues the left cost that's two in go bring it back carl what do you want us to say we're gonna go we're gonna go but he moved it off the screen we're gonna go to a moto we're supposed to stall now so hey let's go kelly kelly is on carhop this is uh do you want to talk to escher yeah or do we want a motor let's bring escher and alexander in oh there you go i'm gonna sit out adam you can drive the chair with your kid who's walking away see if alex wants to come talk to they don't care i don't know he's getting them yeah all right you want to do it now so i'm not i'm not hometown all right and i have classics oh yeah josh has to go play so i'm gonna we're gonna get escher and alexander hey great plan man we don't have uh we don't have the uh the they can't see us today because carl doesn't have that camera but to my uh right is alexander and to my left is escher uh first off congratulations to both of you for first and second on one of the hardest tournaments in the world thank you uh how how did you feel playing today uh alexander felt good a little bit kind of no i don't know helped made a little bit better yesterday warmed up ready to go kind of cold today yeah and it can be hard to get back in it it's uh it's unfortunate we couldn't finish the tournament last night both of you guys were playing really well but the way you guys play it could have gone really really late um are you playing classics today and is are you still in it i'm in the losers bracket now yes okay so but you're still in the tourney there excellent escher uh black knight did you uh i was like uh going in i was kind of ready to concede it already to alex the way he was playing it but uh when i started playing ball one i realized the right flipper was way stronger than i thought it would be and when i played my black knight my first like night multiball i could hit the ramp and it would go up every time which did not do that towards the end of the game it was definitely getting getting soggy for both of you guys so uh and of course we watched the finals uh on was on jurassic park correct i wish last night you guys played a game on jurassic park on the winner's side uh which would have it i mean the same outcome but that was an amazing game you you went off what did you do to get to your 800 million point lead i started chaos with the first t-rex mode which is trx chase and then during i had like a 400 million trx chase and then what did you do to catch up i got chaos i think it was t-rex encounter and i had like a fighter yeah yeah it was t-rex chase as well right it was crazy like you were hitting every shot in combo uh so i'm sorry that neither one of you really got a chance to play it today that's part of like you were saying being a little bit cold yeah um now tell me about this is a circuit event and both you guys are in the top in the circuit i think i was sitting at 19 last in my check okay so you're gonna this is gonna help you a lot yeah like you're almost i don't wanna say a sure thing but there's only two more events yeah i'll be going to obx as well oh and you're going to obx oh well alexander is going to be there to pick uh pick beatles again like last year um just if you had uh if you had won there esther what would would you have gone home pin uh i would have actually gone elvira there you were thinking elvira that would have been again you guys had an epic game on elvira last night as well yeah it was uh so you're going to obs yes you're probably not going to free play or obs i don't think so your circuit is done but you have you're in pretty good shape i think this might it'll pull me like right next to keith in second right now you know so i like your chances so we're gonna see both these kids uh and that was really the theme of expo the 35th annual expo uh all four of the in the winner's bracket of this incredibly difficult uh with all the talent here all four kids are under the age of 18. when do you turn 18. um i just turned actually seven you only just yeah yeah so and that's you're 17. and colin's eighteen in may college is calling the oldest i think wow when colin urban is the oldest kid in the qualifying that's that's great or in the final four and of course jared from michigan uh played great as well yeah uh you guys had a great match that was you had the ball three on beatles yep yep didn't you didn't worry about about tilting uh your bonus there towards the end that was the risk do you ever check your bonus i noticed you didn't on guardians against uh i was thinking of checking if i'm going it's better or not you didn't want to know you shake me up right so uh and you know i'm that way too sometimes but other times it's like boy i want to know you know you might have been there but great plane uh from both of you congratulations ezer uh and i guess are we carl i'm looking are we ready to we're going to wrap up yep we don't want to do some classics can't we no he's got a i'm sorry we can't do classics got a flight tonight there's there's some classics uh motors showing us showing us some classics here so let's just take a moment uh what was your favorite game in classics or what do you like to play here in classics um probably the the one i felt most comfortable on is probably car hop car yeah you like the the old golly it's got some weird rules but uh it's playable yep all right so we're gonna okay so yep alexander has a match to play so we're going to let him go and we're going to sign off thanks for everyone tuning in again congratulations thank you great play all weekend it was really impressive uh thank you carl for streaming yeah we all we thank carl a lot there's carl right there yeah all right hey and thanks pinball watching universe for tuning in uh good stuff and we'll uh as we always say we'll see you at the next one see at the next one