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SDTM Episode 46: This Or That? (Houdini or Total Nuclear Annihilation & more)

Straight Down the Middle·video·34m 16s·analyzed·Jan 4, 2018
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TL;DR

SDTM hosts debate modern vs. classic pinball in head-to-head comparisons, favoring Houdini and newer Jersey Jacks.

Summary

Straight Down the Middle hosts Zach Sharpe and Greg Bone conduct a "This or That" episode comparing pinball machines across multiple matchups. Key decisions include Houdini Master of Mystery over Total Nuclear Annihilation, Alien over Guardians of the Galaxy (despite both being new), and wrestling with tradeoffs between classic machines (Twilight Zone, Indiana Jones, Star Trek) versus newer Jersey Jack titles (Dialed In, Pirates of the Caribbean). The hosts emphasize warranty/support, gameplay depth, aesthetics, and pricing as deciding factors, with recurring tension between collectibility of classics versus depreciation risk of new machines.

Key Claims

  • Houdini Master of Mystery is priced around $7,000 while Total Nuclear Annihilation is around $6,000

    high confidence · Zach Sharpe stated pricing upfront in the TNA vs. Houdini discussion

  • Zach will have a Houdini Master of Mystery in his house by the time the episode releases

    high confidence · Zach Sharpe direct statement about incoming delivery

  • Total Nuclear Annihilation has the best sound Zach has heard in a pinball machine

    high confidence · Zach: 'The absolute best sound I've heard in a pinball machine ever'

  • Jersey Jack Pinball provides excellent warranty support and responsiveness

    high confidence · Greg stated JJP does 'a phenomenal job' with support and has newer components, praising their live boards and problem resolution

  • Alien has had more documented issues than Houdini Master of Mystery

    medium confidence · Greg claims Alien has 'had more issues' currently known, though Houdini is less proven overall

  • Guardians of the Galaxy is faster and tougher than Aerosmith

    high confidence · Greg: 'Guardians is by far tougher. Guardians is faster.'

  • Christopher Franchi and Dirty Donnie are two completely different artists with different styles

    high confidence · Zach explaining the art comparison between Guardians (Franchi) and Aerosmith (Dirty Donnie)

  • Dialed In Elite is priced around $8,000 and Pirates of the Caribbean Jersey Jack Elite is around $17,000

    high confidence · Zach stated pricing in the Colin trade-in discussion

Notable Quotes

  • “I need more modes. I need more stuff to do... Houdini Master of Mystery for me though.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Early game discussion — Core preference for Houdini over TNA due to gameplay depth

  • “The absolute best sound I've heard in a pinball machine ever.”

    Greg Bone @ TNA discussion — High praise for Total Nuclear Annihilation's audio design

  • “Jersey Jack Pinball, anybody watching from the company, Jersey Jack Pinball, you guys do a phenomenal job. Every time I've contacted them, I'm not trying to kiss their ass here, but I'm kissing their ass.”

    Greg Bone @ Dialed In vs. classic pins discussion — Public endorsement of JJP customer support and service quality

  • “I think Star Trek Next Generation is one of the biggest shit turds of a game. I hate it.”

    Greg Bone @ Classic pins discussion — Strong critical stance against Star Trek TNG despite its collector status

  • “Art... Gart... But this is the problem that you get into when you're talking about pinball art, is that it's two completely different artists... Like, their style is different. That's like a Picasso versus a Monet.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Guardians vs. Aerosmith discussion — Meta-commentary on artist style and subjective art comparison in pinball

  • “Give me Guardians... I love my Guardians. It doesn't matter.”

    Greg Bone @ Guardians vs. Alien discussion — Conflicted preference for Guardians despite acknowledging Alien's proven track record

  • “I will own an Alien. When Heighway's proven, I will own an Alien.”

    Greg Bone @ Guardians vs. Alien discussion — Conditional future purchase contingent on manufacturer reliability proof

Entities

Zach SharpepersonGreg BonepersonHoudini Master of MysterygameTotal Nuclear AnnihilationgameAliengameGuardians of the GalaxygameAmerican Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Twippies Awards announced for January with Straight Down the Middle hosts facilitating event

    high · Zach: 'Check out the Twippies Awards in January. Greg and I from Straight Down The Middle: a pinball show are hosting'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Guardians of the Galaxy establishing pace/difficulty reputation as 'fast' and 'ass kicker' affecting desirability despite code/art praise

    medium · Greg: 'Last night I played, put about 20 games on Guardians and it pissed me off... Guardians is so fast, man... It just kicked my ass'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Game mode design depth emerging as primary decision factor; Greg prefers Ghostbusters-style mode distinction over simple 'shoot flashing shot' progression

    high · Greg on Guardians: 'I want more distinction between the modes... I want something that when I – I know I started that mode... I've got purple lights instead of blue lights'

  • $

    market_signal: Depreciation risk of new machines versus stability of classic pin values; classic titles not being remade supporting secondary market longevity

    high · Discussion comparing depreciation: 'You're going to lose a thousand or two in a year' on new machines vs. Twilight Zone/Indiana Jones pricing stability 'Until the whole market as a whole dives'

  • ?

    community_signal: Greg's aesthetic preferences converging with modern designer sensibilities (preferring Franchi/Guardians art over Dirty Donnie/Aerosmith)

    medium · Greg: 'Art on Guardians is... easily Guardians' when comparing Franchi vs. Dirty Donnie styles

Transcript

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0:00
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0:58
You had a fling with a fling shot, you're rolling out the alley again. I tried to cradle you with my flipper, it was all in vain. It was all in vain.
1:10
Baby, baby, baby, why are you doing me wrong? Do me wrong. Alright, ready? Welcome everyone to another fantastic episode of Straight Down the Middle. Welcome to Straight Down the Middle, a pinball show. This is Zach, this is Greg. The co-host.
1:26
Heighway Pinball
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Jersey Jack Pinballcompany
Stern Pinballcompany
Christopher Franchiperson
Dirty Donnieperson
Dialed Ingame
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Walking Deadgame
X-Mengame
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Star Trek: The Next Generationgame
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  • $

    market_signal: Price premiums for newer Jersey Jack titles (~$25k combined for Dialed In + Pirates) versus classic machine bundles not creating clear value advantage

    medium · Colin trade scenario: 3 classics vs. 2 new JJPs at roughly equivalent total price, with hosts splitting on 'warranty certainty' vs. 'irreplaceable classics' logic

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack Pinball differentiated by warranty, newer components, and responsive customer support versus classic machine reliability gambles

    high · Greg selected new JJP titles over classics (Twilight Zone, Indiana Jones, Star Trek) citing warranty confidence and component reliability concerns

  • ?

    product_concern: American Pinball's Houdini Master of Mystery lacks production history for hosts to assess reliability; Zach contingent on machine arriving without defects

    high · Zach stated: 'Both games aren't proven... Houdini Master of Mystery... they're trying to ship that thing about to ship... I might send a formal apology... if this thing clunks out of the box'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Houdini Master of Mystery gaining community momentum in early-production phase; both hosts independently converged on it as superior choice to Total Nuclear Annihilation despite being $1,000 more expensive

    high · Both hosts selected Houdini over TNA in initial matchup; Zach noted difficulty with decision but preference for mode depth; multiple community submissions also favored Houdini

  • ?

    technology_signal: Heighway Pinball Alien experiencing multi-year production delays (~4 years) creating community skepticism about manufacturer capacity

    high · Greg: 'Which one has been produced for the last four years and they still aren't shipping them? Alien'

    • Really? Am I the host? The co-host. The sidekick. Who fucking called me Robin? You're the Robin to my Batman, buddy.
    1:38
    The only difference is people actually like you. They don't like you. But I'm like the Joseph Gordon-Levitt Robin, not the Chris O'Donnell Robin. That means I'm Christian Bale. Isn't that who? No. Who was it? It was Bale. Was it Bale? Yeah. I'm getting mixed up with the Ben Affleck stuff. All right this week. We're gonna do a this or that I love these things you love these things and hopefully you love these if you're Watching hopefully you love them. They are my favorite I think people like yelling at us whenever we're doing this or that is why I get a lot of hate mail after this or that Very true, but what I do like especially is when people go on YouTube afterwards, and they say you know overall this episode I'm leaning towards Xax picks or I saw one that said I was up with Xax picks until this one then I went Greg so do that submit who wins the this or that for this week all right great issues everything's anything that these people need to know oh check us out guess who's hope hosting the Twippies you you are hosting the Twippies by yourself I'd make that shit real that would be that we need whippies it'd be a drunken you would be twipping you're twipping right now man All right, so check out the Twippies in January. Greg and I from Straight Down the Middle of Pinball Show are hosting. We're trying to make this thing special. Yeah. Right? Everything's special we do. That's right. Well, with you, yes. That's very true. Let's get into this or that, Greg. We haven't done this in a while. So hopefully you haven't. You don't know these. No. Right? So this is off-the-cuff Greg, and I haven't really thought about these. So we'll see what we get here. All right. First one comes from DS Nadine. DS it's either DS in a Dean or DS Nadine or disin and Dean where's my dinner why is Nadine all right we're gonna go he or she says this or that total nuclear annihilation or nuclear new clear new clear sorry Denise II so TNA or Houdini mmm so we've got price wise we're at six thousand for a TNA minus the buttery cabinet or we are around seven thousand for a Houdini by American pinball this is tricky this is tough as I'm thinking about this I'm gonna go first I'm gonna to go Houdini. I've played both, put plenty of games on both, and that is not to discredit Total Nuclear Annihilation. That is just to say that Houdini is more the style of game that I'm looking for in my home collection. I don't have a lot of people over to my house to play multiplayer stuff. If I did, it'd probably be TNA, but I'm buying a Houdini. I'm not buying a TNA at this point. I might in the future, but yeah, I like the The layouts of both are beautiful the light show on TNA is spectacular I just need I need more modes. I need more stuff to do and there's plenty to do on TNA I'm having a hard time with this one I'm having a hard time. I think Houdini for me though. I'm gonna shock Every viewer out there When I say this nothing shocks the viewers with you, but this this is going to devastate everyone. Oh
    5:13
    Whoa, are you even gonna say if you're standing? Please please if you don't have it sit on the floor. Yes, just sit down You're dragging shit out like me What are you going with I 100% agree with everything Zack said Wow Wow! Really? Absolutely. Every aspect and every point that you just made, I agree to. Because that's the only thing that would keep me from TNA is I feel that it is a fantastic group multiplayer game. I really want one, though. I'm terrified if I owned it in a home setting that it would get old very fast. But wouldn't it, though? I don't know. I don't know. There's nine reactors. They're getting progressively tougher. It's very true. That scoop. What does that scoop do, Greg? It's a rocket. It's the fastest thing. It's the fastest thing I've ever been on a game. It never gets old. It's always shocking. We're starting out tough. That is tough. But think about the $1,000. That's what I was going to say. The $1,000 difference leans it towards TNA as well. But there's something, and TNA is a remarkably beautiful game. The absolute best sound I've heard in a pinball machine ever. I can't wait until we review it. We're reviewing it soon. Ever, yes. We are reviewing that soon. But I will have to say still, I like the way Houdini is laid out. I like the aesthetics of Houdini. I like the theme Houdini. And I do like modes, and I'm more mode-based, even though it's in its infancy still somewhat Houdini. And I think this is a this or that that could quickly change. It could very much so. Yes, yes. This is a very tough one because both games are relatively new. You don't see a lot of TNA still. At this time, I should have a Houdini in my house by the time this releases. Yes. So if this thing clunks out of the box. Could know a little bit more.
    7:01
    Yes. I might send a formal apology to Denise and the Spooky Gang and say, you know what? Yes. My ass is wrong. Because it is. Right now it's Houdini. It is very tough, but I think that I would have to go with Houdini. Well, let's stick with the Houdini train. I agree. I threw this one out there because this is one that I was trying to consider. Do you go Houdini or do you go Alien?
    7:25
    I'm going Alien. I figured you would. Well, yes. I can go Alien because I'm going to tell you why I'm going to go Alien. I'm going to go Alien because at this point both games aren't proven.
    7:36
    Okay. To an extent. Alien might be a hair more proven than Houdini at this point. What? You're full of shit. What do you mean? Who owns a Houdini? Who owns a Houdini to know what's going to go wrong with it or what American Pimple is going to back up at this point? Which one has had more issues? Currently that we know of, Alien. Which one has been produced for the last four years and they still aren't shipping them?
    8:02
    Houdini. No, Alien. Houdini is not even at a year of age and they've got that thing about to ship. But I'd still go with Alien. I enjoy that pen immensely. I know a lot of people just want to shoot me over it. Houdini plus $1,000 or Alien?
    8:19
    Well, I mean, that's what I would save if I didn't buy an Alien. It'd be Houdini and $1,000. I'm just trying to, once I talk money to you, then you're like, oh, wait a minute. Money slays me in every direction. Lethal weapon or five no Okay so you going I going Houdini I buying the thing I really think it going to be magical Pardon the pun there But I think it's really going to be special and it's going to be good. I could be wrong because we haven't. I think so too. It's a fairly tough one too. It really is. Yeah, it's a very tough one. Prototype we have. Okay.
    8:52
    The Jacko 1010. What's up? We like the Jacko. What's up, Jacko? The Jacko says he's sticking with the magic themes. He said, do you go theater magic or pinball magic or Houdini? It's like the Houdini this or that here. I think Houdini. I think Houdini is going to be potentially a little bit deeper. Theater's kind of shallow. I love theater magic. It's beautiful and it's fantastic. But Houdini is very beautiful and fantastic. It is. And I think Houdini has, with it being a modern pin, it has the opportunity to go deeper. You don't care about pinball magic by Capcom? I like it. It's not bad.
    9:28
    I've played it like once. So if I'm looking at these, I'm thinking initially Theater of Magic or Houdini. Pinball Magic is cool, but I don't want to spend $4,500 to $5,000 on a Capcom that boards go out and I'm screwed.
    9:41
    Theater of Magic is going to run me $5,500 to $6,000 for a decent condition. They're all relatively close in price point.
    9:50
    I'm going Houdini. Yeah. Definitely. A lot of Houdini today. Yeah. All right. Lots of it. Oh, I don't have my name. I guess I'm submitting this one as well.
    10:00
    Guardians of the Galaxy, or Aerosmith, or Kiss, or Metallica, or Iron Man. I can't keep all that straight. All right, let's try it again. Guardians of the Galaxy. These are all basically Stern Pros.
    10:14
    Guardians of the Galaxy, or Aerosmith, or Kiss, or Metallica, or Iron Man. Wow. Pick your Stern Pro. Okay, so we're getting rid of Kiss, right? Why? I like Kiss. Well, but it's not as good as the other ones. No, I mean, I don't know. Okay, let's do it easy. Aerosmith or Kiss? Oh, Aerosmith. Okay, boom. Kiss is out. Aerosmith or Metallica?
    10:41
    I'm actually probably going to go Aerosmith. Me too. Aerosmith or Iron Man? Aerosmith for me. God, I hate Iron Man. I haven't had enough time on Aerosmith. I played it quite a bit at your house, but I still couldn't get into it. Okay.
    10:57
    Aerosmith or Ironman? I'm going to go Aerosmith just because they'll see it. Okay, so we're at the same two here. I'm going Guardians. Really? That surprised me. People are bashing this damn game. And you'll see in our review our point. The thing is, it's not a fantastic. They've already seen it in our review. Yes, yes, you've seen it in our review. It's not a fantastic pen. What is it? It's not great. But there's nothing bad about it. What's not great about it? I just don't like the way the modes are set up at this point, which code can fix, because it's very much shoot that flashing shot again, and you've got your bars. That's what you've tracked, your modes. I want more distinction between the modes. Okay. I would like a Ghostbuster-ish separation between the modes, if that makes sense. I want something that when I – I know I started that mode. You know what I'm saying? I just didn't hit a button, and I'm on that mode, and I've got purple lights instead of blue lights. That's right. I want something to distinguish that. So that's my downfall. It is a tough shooter, but I enjoyed that. I like that. Aerosmith's a tough shooter as well. It is. Which one's tougher? Guardians is by far tougher. Guardians is faster. They both have tight shots, but Guardians is faster. I thought Aerosmith, it couldn't get tougher than that. There was some tough shots in there. And I like the theme of Guardians better than Aerosmith.
    12:08
    Which one's got better code right now? Aerosmith. Which one's got better art right now? Oh, freaking easily Guardians. Easily Guardians. Now, I think most people would say you're full of shit. I think they would. People love their Dirty Donnie. I mean, Dirty Donnie's great. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong, Dirty. You going to call him Dirty? Call him Dirty. Big Dirty. Don't get me wrong, Big Dirty. For me as well. Art on Guardians is... Art. I see... Gart. Art. Gart. But this is the problem that you get into when you're talking about pinball art, is that it's two completely different artists. Two different styles. Franchi and Dirty are two totally different artists. Like, their style is different. That's like a Picasso versus a Monet. I think they're both A pluses. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah, you can't... I'll go Guardians. Yeah. All right. Oh, here we go. I've got one for you. Okay. Oh, look at you. This ain't on my list yet. He likes the shocker. Stop.
    13:01
    So, I was actually... Had this problem there. So, what would you guys do here? Would you guys take... Are you talking to them or me? I got this sweet, sweet-ass Walking Dead.
    13:13
    So, would you do a Walking Dead... You're trading the Walking Dead in. Okay. Would you trade it in for an X-Men, Ellie Wolverine and $300 and 300 going $300 towards the X-Men? Oh, yes. Or would you do a game of Thrones premium thousand dollars towards the, uh, the game of Thrones premium? I would keep the walking dead.
    13:44
    It does not help me. And I can't give any input. Because I didn't go either way. But I leaned towards X-Men. A lot of people hated X-Men. Well, you did what I did. You kept walking dead. I kept walking dead. Well, and the new code dropped at that time. So I was a little annoyed by that. Look, X-Men's cool. X-Men's priced pretty valuably. You're getting it for right under five. It seems a very good bang for the buck under five. We're not going to stretch his bang for the buck because it feels like that type of game. Really? That's how much I'd give for one. And then what was the other one? The Game of Thrones Premium. and that's gorgeous i love them i like the i like it too but you're i'm not adding you're working out a thousand bucks yeah that's the problem yeah me neither i can do it i ain't doing it but there's one for you to ponder on guys i like it walking dead's just what were we saying earlier walking dead is so awesome but it's ugly this is ugly we i i'm on board we need a vault yeah it's ugly which is ugly yeah all right calling urban what's up colin what's up dude How's it going? Are we on your phone right now, Colin? Are we in your living room? Is your wife yelling at you in the background? We know that's probably true. Because anybody that's married, their wife is probably yelling at them in the background. We get it all the time. We actually have to go into post, and we have to erase the wives yelling in the background from every video. It's a lot of editing. It's a ton of work.
    15:06
    Colin, thanks for the submission. He said, oh, this is a tricky one. Bear with me. It's a lot of words here. Twilight Zone plus Indiana Jones plus Star Trek The Next Generation or Dialed In Ellie and Pirates of the Caribbean Jersey Jack Ellie. Oh, my God. Oh, you're getting three classic super pins. Wow. For two brand new Jersey Jacks. Wow. That's tricky, I know. I know mine. Go ahead. And I'll tell you the determining factor. I'm going the New Jersey Jacks. And I'll tell you why. because they are under warranty.
    15:46
    JJP. Really? You're picking up because of warranty? JJP has seemed, from what I've heard, any problems they have. I can't call Mr. Bally up. Live boards and everything else. They're going to help you fix it. So they do a damn good job. Jersey Jack, anybody watching from the company, Jersey Jack Pinball, you guys do a phenomenal job. Every time I've contacted them, I'm not trying to kiss their ass here, but I'm kissing their ass. They do a good job. And the fact that it's newer components, I feel that I don't have to worry about so many problems to arise, which terrifies me anymore because I'm just lazy at this point. You're pinball lazy? I don't want to mess with my machines. I just want to play right now. I'm in this weird spot. I want to Novus 1 them. I want to change out some LEDs. Don't make me do some Switch. Because the other three are remarkable games. Don't get me wrong. And I would love to own those. So let's look money-wise. Twilight Zone, we're looking at $6,000. Indiana Jones, we're looking at $65,000 or so. That's $12,500. Sting, we're looking at $45,000 to $5,000. So plus. Man, you put it. Yeah. And dialed in, you're sitting at $8,000.
    16:58
    Pirates, you're sitting at $95,000. That's $17,000. It's not far off. No. It about right Colin you got this I mean right now I go with the I honestly I would I would go with the newer pens But the bad thing about the newer pens you going to depreciate
    17:15
    Oh, very much so. Very fast. Are you going to depreciate with Indiana Jones? No. No, they're not going to remake that one, I don't think. It's too hard to get that. Twilight Zone, it's going to be hard to get that one to remake.
    17:26
    Next Generation, again. And it's not like that there's films going on right now. there's not like there's anything that is boosting those pins to an inflated price that is going to dive. Those pins prices will not dive until the whole market as a whole dives. That's a good point. But you're going to lose a new out of the box. You're going to lose a thousand or two in a year.
    17:47
    Yeah. Look at Hobbit. All right. You better have some pretty damn big muscles because those are like the five heaviest pins.
    17:54
    It might be. Jersey Jack, come on. You guys know me by now. You're going with Jersey Jack? I think Star Trek Next Generation is one of the biggest shit turds of a game. I hate it. That's strong. I like it. It is. I like it. I like all three of those pins. It's freaking boring. It's easy to get the final friends here. Indiana Jones is one of our highest rated pins. Indiana Jones is my highest rated pin that we've reviewed because it is a perfect pin. Twilight Zone, again, almost a perfect pin. I can't get over it. Every time I play it, it never gets old. But I like new and fresh. I do too. Twin Mice. Fresh and so clean. Twin Mice.
    18:27
    Would it be Twin Mouse or Twin Mice? What would that be? If you're Goose. That would be Twin Mice. Twin Geese or Twin Goose? Twin Geese. Yeah, it's still the plural form. Okay. So Twin Mice says, Guardians of the Galaxy or Alien? We all scholars. I didn't know what you were sparking up there. That's my bike. That didn't help.
    18:51
    Twin Mice said, you're going to go Guardians of the Galaxy or Alien? I'd go Guardian. Oh my God. You are surprising the shit out of me tonight, buddy. Price point.
    19:02
    Okay. I'd rather have Alien, but price point. You've been on the Alien train, my friend. Yeah, well, again, though, price point. I mean, I'm saving, what, like, $3,000, $4,000? $3,500. Yeah, so, I mean, I've... No, no. Could be more than that. $2,500. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's still a $2,500 save. I'd go with that and Alien still. I want to know that Highway's proven. Okay. When Highway's proven, I will own an Alien. is this guardians of the galaxy pro or premium before i answer what's it matter what's it matter yeah because if it's a money don't matter what groot arms matter to you they do they do groot arms matter to me groot arms matter i mean they're gorgeous but i mean um what's the what's slaying me from getting an alien is not a set of Groot arms. Well, if I'm thinking Guardians of the Galaxy LE versus an alien around the same price, I'm going alien.
    20:02
    Going alien. Okay. If I'm going premium Guardians plus $1,000, $1,500. No, plus $1,000 for alien. It's hard for me right now, Greg, because last night I played, put about 20 games on Guardians and it pissed me off. They kicked my ass. I can see that. It just kicked my ass. It was kind of an ass kicker. At times. Yeah, but at least you could fall asleep in between. I'm joking.
    20:29
    It's just, Guardians is so fast, man. I was your mom, but I like her. I want Alien, though. I want Alien. But I love my Guardians. Give me Guardians. It doesn't matter. I'm not going to buy an Ellie, but give me a Guardian. We're agreeing too much tonight. We are. It's bullshit. You've been in a bad mood, so. You're kind of like me.
    20:51
    I have now reached a dick level. That's right. Dick level at max. Awesome Fox is an awesome viewer and fan. Yes, yes. He always helps us out. He's got a couple here.
    21:04
    Adam's Family or Theater of Magic? I'd go with that. He almost pulled the trigger there. Did you feel that?
    21:15
    Adam's Family or Theater of Magic? Give me Theater of Magic. It's a better game. It's a prettier game. It's a funner game. Yeah.
    21:23
    Come on to the dark side. I hear people getting tired of Atoms pretty quick. Once you get to the wizard mode in Tom, it's underwhelming. But other than that. I'll go Atoms. I still like the theme and enjoy it. So I'm going Atoms. I'm like.
    21:37
    All right. Awesome Fox also said. Batman 66. Oh, here we go. Or Spider-Man Vault. Oh. Or ACDC Premium. Oh. damn mm-hmm yeah three get machines that I don't think highly of okay so ACDC premium I'd rather have the pro and freakin cannon gets in my way and it drives me they're all have the pro you dipshit what everyone up to that pro everyone's got a cannon yeah yeah but that one it's the same thing yes it is It is too. It's the same damn thing. Maybe the premium I played just had the cannon on top.
    22:17
    Maybe it just had the cannon on top. No, you go. Keep going. That's my bad, y'all. No, keep going. That's my bad. It's a cannon. The premium I played had like the toy cannon. Does the premiums not all come in toy cannons? It's a mod for all of them. We'll just strike that from the record.
    22:36
    Look at this dick gloat over here. Keep going. Son of a bitch. I don't even know the games now. ACDC Premium with or without the cannon.
    22:49
    Spider-Man Vault. Turned a little red. It ain't the alcohol. Spider-Man Vault or Batman 66. We'll call it a premium.
    23:01
    Man. You're still thinking about that cannon? I am still thinking about it. I can't even decide. I'll cut it, man. You ain't gotta cut it.
    23:11
    I deserve some pinball shame. Oh, I'm praying my mother's playing and having a damn toy cannon on top of that son of a bitch. And that damn toy cannon blocked everything I did on that right-hand side.
    23:28
    God damn toy cannon. I thought it was natural. There wasn't a damn thing else modded on that son of a bitch that I know of. Natural. It was natural.
    23:38
    natural to the game the factory produced game i'm so sorry guys this is what i bring him in here for okay i don't even know where to go i'm going i don't like acdc premium or pro i've got the giggles i especially hate the pro because all the stand-up targets uh so i hate that um acdc premium i like more uh spider-man vault it's a great fantastic pen I don't like it.
    24:07
    Batman 66. We've had that argument before. And Batman 66, I don't like either. There's no special shots in the whole game. Code, I hear, is getting better. I'd go 66 because it's so pretty. I'll go that, too, just because it's getting a lot of hype for the code. Hype, hype, hype. Thank you, Awesome Fox, for that. Without Awesome Fox, that would have never happened.
    24:27
    All right. Shame. I will never let that down, either. Next one. John Krause John Krause said Indiana Jones or Theater of Magic what are all these Theater of Magic Indiana Jones yeah done easily Riz you know Riz messaged me said I go by Rio isn't that cool oh really what's up Rio how's it going so Rio said well I think I know that I think he's messaged me on Facebook oh okay cool he said comet or cyclone or hurricane all those Barry Osler shit game. Maybe Comet? I'm so mean.
    25:09
    I haven't played. Okay. You're picking anyway. Because I haven't played those. I like the name Comet. So I'm just going to say I've heard a lot about Comet but I've never played either any of those. Yeah, I don't like any of them. I apologize, Rio.
    25:22
    You know what? Here's my choice. If you're really going to own one of those lackluster games buy all three of them just so you have the set. And don't ever play them because they're not that fun. That's a good point. All right, Rio. Thanks, buddy.
    25:37
    Casey Keen Oops What the hell I got to scroll back down Damn Where in the hell is that Casey Keen said, Stern Kiss Premium or, oh, I like this one. This is a good idea. Stern Kiss Premium and Data East Star Wars. Or Stern. No, I messed that up.
    26:06
    Okay, we'll start over. Edit. All right, so Casey Keen. I love this one, right? He says, or she. Casey's a... It could be either one. Or both. All right. I doubt it's both. It could be. I mean, it could be, but I doubt it. All right. Stern Kiss Premium and Daddy Star Wars. Or Stern Star Wars Premium and Bally Kiss. You see what he did there? You see what he did? New and old and new and old. I see it in writing.
    26:37
    Stern Kiss Premium and the Data East Star Wars, or would you go the new Star Wars and the old Kiss? So, new Kiss, old Star Wars, or old Kiss? New Kiss, old Star Wars.
    26:49
    Really? He still don't understand the question. No, I just did. I'm going... No, I'd go the old. I'd go new Star Wars.
    27:02
    The thing that kills that is new Kiss. Not being deep. I love Kiss. Yeah. But the... It's pretty, though. It is pretty. The death's not there, so it kind of throws me off a little bit.
    27:13
    I like that East Star Wars, though. I'm staying with New Kiss, that East Star Wars. Because I'm thinking about, honestly, what I would honestly buy. Yeah. And I wouldn't buy Old Valley Kiss, but I would buy those. Okay. I'd buy New Kiss and Old Star Wars. I'm on the other side. Star Wars, if I was going to get a Star Wars and actually want to keep a Star Wars, I'd go premium.
    27:35
    kiss premium cool pin i like it that is star wars hate it and ballet kiss an iconic classic beautiful pin isn't it so i'm going of all of those machines which one do i want to play the most is star wars premium and then i get a classic ballet with it i'm going there exactly all right rob s or robs uh said jurassic park or bram stoker's dracula in a two pin lineup with the Shadow.
    28:06
    We know the Shadow knows. Who does the Shadow want as a roommate? So you're going Shadow and JP over Shadow and Strucker's Dracula. Yeah, I like Strucker's Dracula, and I like the way it looks. I like everything. I don't know, man. But it's just that multi-ball.
    28:26
    BSD shoots better. It does. I know. It has better call-outs. It does. It has better ramps. I know. It's got a lift gate or a lift ramp. Cool magnets. Yeah. Missed multi-ball. I'd go BSD. I'd go Jurassic Park. No, but I would go BSD. I'd go Jurassic Park. Theme's better. It's a fun little poor man's Addams Family. It is. I'd go JP.
    28:53
    And it was my first pin, so I'm like, Jurassic Park, pop my cherry. I might have to edit. He giggles like a little girl. I might have to edit. He giggles. I'm sorry. I'm in a good mood this week. It's Christmas. I love Christmas. And this asshole has been a Grinch all week. Every time I pick up the phone, it's like, ugh, okay.
    29:16
    All right, a couple more novelty ones here. Awesome Fox said, you want to live in Germany, this, or France, that. Where are you going to live at, Germany or France? That's tough because I've never been to either one. Yeah. I don't, yeah.
    29:31
    You were about to do a bad accent. Yeah. I can't. I got German ancestry, though. I do, too. I'm going to go German just for the ancestry. And our part of Indiana, believe it or not, is very German. Very German. Ja. I can see you in Lederhosen. Ja. And you like beer. Ja. You really like beer. So that's the only reason. Not to take anything away from France. I'd rather live in France, but the guys over at France are very touchy-feeling. and I'm afraid to take my wife over there, and she'll be wined and dined. He's like, why won't they touch me?
    30:11
    I'm going to live in France. Oh, is that where we were going to live? Yeah, more style in France. More style. I like style. Yeah, I don't want to offend anybody.
    30:20
    You already picked Germany. I'll take Germany. I like the beer. You like Venus. The sausage. Okay, and last but certainly not least, me, my opinion, she. I think it's Ski or Ski. Ski Ski. Me, my opinion. Ski Ski. Ski Ski Ski Mo. Okay. Hot damn. They said better day to drink.
    30:44
    Every day. I settled that one real quick. New Year's Eve or 4th of July? 4th of July. Really? Because 4th of July. New Year's. That's American. You start a little later. 4th of July. You can literally just wake up, man. Right before lunch you pop that beer. You drink it all day. usually passed up before the fireworks happen and then bam fireworks wake your ass up and you're ready to go again with four fingers all right I would go I like I can't drink Miller's light and grill that's beneath me I do like grilling and drinking I'm gonna go fourth of July he likes grilling on his gas range inside of his house no I've got a Viking range my green egg my $16,000 charcoal grill made out of clay you got a damn Weber don't be telling me you got a nice web this or that $100 Weber $18,000 green egg hey both burned your shit no no No. Charcoal's where it's at, my friend. Charcoal is where it's at. I will agree with that. Gas bullshit. Gas is bullshit. All right. Yep, I'm going 4th of July, my friend. Bottle rockets and beer and pools and shorts and bikinis. That's where it's at.
    32:09
    Plus, I don't want to spend $200 to go to one of these. You drop the bun and you got to drive home. No. I agree. I want to be in my backyard. I'm not a big fan of New Year's. It requires staying up late. Yeah. Not my cup of tea. I'd rather be playing pinball. I agree. All right. So that's our This and That this week. It was a crazy one, wasn't it? Yeah. You're in a bad mood. I'm in a good mood. It's just nuts this time. Check out us hosting the Twippies in January 2018 for the 2017 year. And vote for those things. Honestly, vote for them. And make sure to vote for us as well. Yeah. Check us out on Facebook. Check us out on YouTube. All these videos beneath this, check those out. Check us out live on Twitch. Live on Twitch. Chuck Wirt, our boy Chuck Wirt, SDTM Chuck Wirt, he is doing the most expansive tutorial on Game of Thrones that's ever been done. Guys, go back and watch all that fantastic shit. Especially you tournament players out there. Yes. We're not tournament players, but for those of you... Tournament players might know a lot of what he's doing, but if you're new to tournament, if you're a newer tournament player... I would be hard-pressed to say that even tournament players don't know about activating shots and stuff. When it takes like four videos? Damn. It's like a four-hour freaking tutorial. The longer than that, really. We really are appreciative of Chuck Wards being part of the team. It really is phenomenal. Check out his streams as well over Wednesday. Yes. He does some cool stuff there. Love Chuck. You're streaming. I'm streaming every once in a while. Houdini's going to be streamed. It's probably going to be unboxed as well, so look out for that. I'm excited to see that. Until then, guys, we love you. Thanks for checking out Straight Down the Middle, a pinball show. Peace out. We'll go with that. You hit it off with a bumper now you're straight down the middle again. Middle again. You had a fling with a fling shot You're rolling out the outlet again