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Stargate VPW (Gottlieb 1995)

Mystery Pinball Theater 3000·video·1h 7m·analyzed·Oct 10, 2025
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TL;DR

Casual Stargate VPX gameplay stream with pinball maintenance tips and community banter.

Summary

A casual gameplay stream of Stargate (Gottlieb 1995) emulated via VPX by Virtual Pin Games (VPW), featuring the host playing through various modes while chatting with stream viewers. The conversation meanders across pinball maintenance issues (Labyrinth ball detection problems), Stern LCD emulation efforts, code update impacts on older machines (Alien flipper configuration), and off-topic discussions about PC builds and pop culture. The host praises VPW's work on the Stargate emulation, noting it plays significantly better than expected.

Key Claims

  • VPW and PinCreds are the only groups to rebuild LCD Stern machines from the ground up without ROM

    medium confidence · Host discussing LCD Stern emulations, noting VPW and PinCreds 'have been insane enough to try to from the ground up rebuild um an LCD like a Spike 2 Stern'

  • Game of Thrones was a Spike 1 machine

    medium confidence · Stream participant asks 'Was Game of Thrones a spike one or or just a spike?' and host confirms 'Game of Thrones is a spike one'

  • Updating Alien code to version 4.2 changed default behavior for stage flipping, breaking lower flipper functionality on machines without dual leaf switches

    high confidence · Host explains: 'the new code defaults to stage flipping as normal. So, if you had an old alien and you updated the code, you lost your lower flippers because stage flipping is now turned on by default'

  • Stargate VPX emulation by VPW plays much better than the original release version

    medium confidence · Host: 'I'm going to give it to the VPW team once again. This shoots like freaking amazing' and earlier 'VPW uh got their hands on it. Got their dirty little nasty hands all over this table. It's They just dirtied this table up and now it plays great'

  • Labyrinth machines sometimes incorrectly detect 6 balls in the trough when only 5 are present

    medium confidence · Host discusses recurring issue: 'our labyrinth is thinks we have six balls' and later asks Pirate 'why does our labyrinth always think that there's six balls in the trough when there's only five?'

  • Gottlieb Stargate was one of the last tables the company made before going out of business

    medium confidence · Stream participant: 'Dwood, this looks to be one of the last tables this company made as they went out of business shortly after'

  • Homegrown recently started working for Barrels of Fun

    high confidence · Host: 'Homegrown is working for barrels of fun now' and 'David Vaness...he hired Homegrown'

  • Gotlieb flipper coil stops are smaller/flatter, causing flippers to rise higher than Williams games

Notable Quotes

  • “VPW was like is really just a fishbowl...You know what? Life isn't hard enough. Let's let's try and do an actual LCD stern, but from the ground up with no ROM at all, and just blackbox the [] out of it.”

    Host @ N/A — Describes the extreme difficulty of rebuilding Stern LCD emulations without original code—a technical achievement unique to VPW and PinCreds

  • “I went from 4.0 to 4.1. Then I had to do a firmware update. So, I did the firmware update. Then I went from 4.1 to 4.2...And once I got it to 4.2, the lower...As soon as I started it up, the lower flippers didn't work anymore.”

    Host @ N/A — Critical report of unintended consequence from code update affecting machine functionality

  • “I'm going to give it to the VPW team once again. This shoots like freaking amazing.”

    Host @ N/A — Positive reception of VPW's Stargate VPX emulation quality and playability improvements

  • “Zero new IPs. New Highlander delayed.”

    Stream participant (Swizzle) @ N/A — Commentary on IP availability constraints in modern pinball industry

  • “I shook it like it owed me money. I'm like, give me the ball back.”

    Host (discussing Labyrinth troubleshooting) @ N/A — Humorous description of physical troubleshooting method for stuck ball detection issue

Entities

Virtual Pin Games (VPW)organizationPinCredsorganizationBarrels of FuncompanyDavid Van NesspersonHomegrownpersonGeorgepersonPiratepersonIsaiahpersonSurrealperson

Signals

  • ?

    code_update: Alien pinball code update from v4.1 to v4.2 introduced stage flipping as default, disabling lower flippers on machines without dual leaf switches. Fix required manual setting adjustment in game configuration.

    high · Host detailed experience: 'the new code defaults to stage flipping as normal. So, if you had an old alien and you updated the code, you lost your lower flippers because stage flipping is now turned on by default'

  • ?

    product_concern: Labyrinth machines experiencing recurring issue where trough sensor reports 6 balls detected when only 5 are loaded. Affects high-play-count machines. Manual ball cycling through plunger lane required as workaround.

    high · Host and shop operator discussing: 'our labyrinth is thinks we have six balls...our game is for some reason every once in a while think thinking that we put six balls in it'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Gottlieb flipper design uses smaller flat coil stops compared to Williams, resulting in higher flipper rise angle. Affects ball control and shot difficulty across Gottlieb/Premiere game library.

    medium · Discussion: 'It's the coil stops...all the got and all the premiere like games...Hoops...It's ridiculous how high the flippers go'

  • ?

    technology_signal: VPW's Stargate VPX emulation exhibits significantly improved playability compared to initial release. Uses 144Hz screen running at 120fps with high-resolution rendering to achieve authentic feel.

    high · Host: 'VPW uh got their hands on it...They just dirtied this table up and now it plays great' and 'This shoots like freaking amazing'

  • ?

Transcript

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0:04
open. [Music] You wake up late for school and you DON'T WANT TO GO. [Music] YES, YOUR MOM, PLEASE. But she just said no.
0:49
Which which which freaking keyboard am I going for? Nobody can name that tune. Come on. Uh, that's right.
1:14
[Music] Check that the VPX is loading. ROM Stargate 5. Thank you, Joe.
1:25
Joe, I actually hadn't realized how much of a freaking pinball player you are. You're super hardcore. Over time, I realized Joe knows a lot about pinball.
1:40
What's up, Paladin? Thank you for the prime. You're awesome. I was at work today and I was like, what game was I in? I was in Wizard of Oz and I don't ever want to be in Wizard of Oz. That game needs to That game needs to be shopped. Like, it's not even funny. That game needs to be shopped so bad. How bad does it need to be shopped? It needs to be shopped so bad that to play a game of Wizard of Oz, you have to click your heels together three times and say, "There's no place like a machine that works for a moment.

medium confidence · Discussion about flipper height: 'It's the coil stops' and 'all the got and all the premiere like games...Especially like hoops. Hoops will you can It's ridiculous how high the flippers go'

Vision
person
Paulperson
Stargate (Gottlieb 1995)game
Aliengame
Labyrinthgame
Harry Pottergame
Game of Thronesgame
Batman 66game
Iron Maidengame
Attack from Marsgame
The Matrixgame
Tron (upcoming)game
Expoevent
Cleveland Pinball Showevent
Rob Burkeperson

manufacturing_signal: Barrels of Fun expanded team with hire of Homegrown, a streamer and content creator. Represents continued growth strategy by boutique manufacturer.

high · Host: 'David Vaness...he hired Homegrown' and 'Homegrown is working for barrels of fun now'

  • ?

    operational_signal: Heavily-played arcade machines (Labyrinth at 70,000+ plays) develop sensor calibration issues requiring daily manual intervention; ball detection systems accumulate drift over extended operation.

    medium · Host discussing shop Labyrinth: 'our game was played 70,000 times like ours was' and 'I do like every morning I come in and I have to do that...manually pop a ball into the trough'

  • ?

    design_innovation: VPW and PinCreds achieved independent reverse-engineering of Stern Spike 2 LCD platform, rebuilding game logic and ROM behavior from scratch without access to original source code.

    medium · Host: 'I think only VPW and the PinCreds have been have been insane enough to try to from the ground up rebuild um an LCD like a Spike 2 Stern...with no ROM at all, and just blackbox the [] out of it'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Stargate's primary shot (the Stargate target itself) identified as exceptionally difficult to hit from any flipper position, affecting overall game accessibility.

    medium · Host: 'why is it impossible to hit the Stargate? Why is it impossible to hit the freaking Stargate from the left flipper or any flipper for that matter?'

  • ?

    content_signal: Pinball manufacturers increasingly hiring streamers and content creators for roles including code/audio work, creating potential conflict between talent/merit-based hiring and platform visibility.

    medium · Host: 'apparently all you have to do is be a streamer and then a pinball company will hire you' and joking about how Homegrown and Dirty Pool were hired despite 'no other talent than streaming'

  • ?

    historical_signal: Stargate (1995) identified as among the final pinball machines produced by Gottlieb before company ceased operations.

    medium · Stream participant: 'this looks to be one of the last tables this company made as they went out of business shortly after'

    • 2:32
    What is that? Oh, that's the game. Good joke. Thanks, Isaiah. Isaiah did So, you didn't go to You didn't go to work today, but I'm telling you now, so I remember.
    2:50
    I'm telling you now, so I remember. Um, sorry. But so I went by the shop after work today after go I went by the shop past the shop because I was picking up Skyler from school. Um, Dwood, this looks to be one of the last tables this company made as they went out of business shortly after. Is it really? Is it? Is it?
    3:14
    Isaiah, I went by the shop to tell you that if Labyrinth says they made more after this. Okay. What? What was that? What was that? What was that?
    3:33
    If Labyrinth tells you there's stop. Oh my god, I'm done. I don't want to be part of Messenger anymore. I don't want to be part of this. OMG.
    3:48
    Okay, as I was saying, if Labyrinth tells you there are too many balls in the game, try this. Open the coin door. Manually pop a ball into the trough. You know how to do that, right?
    4:07
    Pull the plunger. Pop five balls through. One, two, three. Just let them go. Just go. Five balls. One, two, three, four, five. Just just fire them manually through and see if that fixes it. Because that I do like every morning I come in and I have to do that. For some reason, our labyrinth is thinks we have six balls.
    4:32
    I don't know what that means. Just reset the trough. I don't know what that means. So, what I was doing was I was actually firing them through. I don't know what reset the trough mean. Is there a Is there a button? Does Who has pal who who has Oh, okay. Who Who has paladin? Do you have a a labyrinth? Who has a labyrinth here? Just tuned in right when Manny was No, I'm not giving sex advice. gave primal advice. I'm giving advice about the one thing I do know. Um, does anybody else have a labyrinth here? Does anyone remember laughter? You do not, but you worked on one. Pirate has one. That's right.
    5:22
    Pirate has a labyrinth. Well, we'll wait until Pirate shows up because I want to ask Pirate, why does our labyrinth always think that there's six balls in the trough when there's only five? Is there six balls or only five? How loud is that? Is that really loud? That is really loud in my ear. That's how Al Labyrinth ended up with too many balls. Exactly. How are you, Lynn?
    5:50
    Um, let me lower that a little bit because that seems really loud. Hey, let's see how loud it is. We're going to play.
    6:20
    Okay. Easy, easy, easy. Stargate. Easy. Stargate, bring it down. Bring it down, baby. Bring it down. There you go. I have a love hat relationship with this back glass. I find the flashers distracting. Are there flashers in the back glass?
    6:39
    Oh, I got to fix the I got to fix the contrast on my screen because you guys can see more of the DMD than I can. Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate. What's up, Borg? Step into the Stargate. You know what I really really really want? You know what I really really want? What I really really want? I want my goddamn portal. Why is this playing in my ear? Hang on. This is not supposed to be playing in my ear. I have my monitor on. Besides Batman 66 and GT, are there any other LCD sterns that have been emulated? Yes, blasters. There has been Iron Maiden, go look up on VPU, Iron Maiden by uh VPW. Why am I hearing the the pin right now? Um, does anybody else know of any Um, does anybody else know of any others?
    7:48
    line in mod audio and output. No. Does anybody know of any others? Um, that's a good question. Well, no. Apous. Uh, no. I intentionally said I apuz
    8:14
    Blasters. The Matrix pen is meant to be like a stern LCD, but it's not an official thing. A work in progress of Black Knight sort of rage that I know of.
    8:31
    I think only like VPW I think only VPW and the PinCreds have been have been insane enough to try to from the ground up rebuild um an LCD like a Spike 2 Stern. And by insane I mean absolutely [ __ ] insane. Like VPW was like is really just a fishbowl. BBW and and the Fishbowl were like, "You know what? Life isn't hard enough. Let's let's try and do an actual LCD stern, but from the ground up with no ROM at all, and just blackbox the [ __ ] out of it. Figure out figure out all the rules, all the timings, everything. All right, I'm going to go for the skill shot. What I want to do, the only thing I know about Stargate is that you will have your modes here, right on this ring, you have glidercraft, rebellion, rost temple, quartz trade, battle, and safe, sorry, and you have your your kind of progress things your on your Stargate. Um, I know Sarcophagus. If I short plunge,
    9:46
    I can get Sarcophagus. Ah, I blew it. No, I didn't get it. Um, I got it. You saying I got it? I I I got I got it. You saying I got it? I I I got it. And I know how to hit the pyramids. Oh, did I get it? No, I didn't get it. And I know about the combos. God, I've It's been forever since I played this game. Uh, BBW is working on another, but it's far off. Are they Apous? You guys are Not really LCD, but G O T.
    10:24
    Wait, what is what is G? What does go mean? Oh, Game of Thrones. Spike was Game of Thrones a spike one, you guys? Shoot. Was Game of Thrones considered a spike one or or just a spike?
    10:49
    Yeah. So, Game of Thrones is a spike one. Why is that Stargate shot so hard? By the way, this within 12 seconds of me playing this. This is amazing.
    11:04
    Uh, no. I don't want to trade my quartz cuz you need quartz to get to wizard mode. Why is that so hard? I want to start rebellion. Uh, no, no, no, no, no. Don't trade the quartz, Joe. Oh,
    11:24
    got it. What's up, Paul? Speaking of Kurt Russell, we need a tombstone original. Oh, that would be cool.
    11:34
    So, now I have a multiball. How you doing, Paul? Paul, we got to finish um that video game that I forgot the name of now. [ __ ] What is the name of that video game that we started a long time ago in a galaxy far far away? Not that video game.
    12:12
    Oh, well, Split Fiction, thank you. All right. Um, who just came in? Smmedley, what's up? Some trades are good. Oh, okay. Some trades are good, but not the one I was going to do. Do they have an option in this to put system 80 coil stops on the flipper so it doesn't go so high? That's why Borg Borg, I was wondering why Borg, I was wondering why the Gotautly games like hoops and stuff. Why do the flippers go so high? It's the coil stops. Wait, it's the coil stops.
    12:57
    Is it not the coil sleeves? Oh, they have tiny tiny flat coil slops. I was talking to somebody the other day about coil stops. I forget who it was. Who was I talking to about coil stop?
    13:17
    I put the system 81s in my teed off when I had it. We are using the catch all flippers here. Um,
    13:33
    no. It's like all the all the got and all the premiere like games. I know. Especially like hoops. Hoops. Hoops. It'll you can It's ridiculous how high the flippers go, but is that
    13:52
    Could you Okay, this is probably a stupid question. Could you just use a taller coil sleeve? It's probably not a good idea, though. It's probably not a good idea because you will beat the crap out of those coil sleeves and they will slowly drift up anyway. So, never mind. Um, the system 3 games with pointy flippers had that.
    14:14
    Yeah, forget I just said that about coil sleeves. I'm not I'm not going to link I'm not going to make a coil bash into a plastic tube over and over and over again and expect it to last. Let's see if I get the skill shot.
    14:31
    They get it. I got it. Sarophaga is done. [Applause] Shoot the strobing shots. Shoot the throbbing shots.
    14:56
    Warning. Virus detected. Incoming raid to the mystery pinball theater. Who's waiting?
    15:18
    Welcome in Raiders. I can see who it is in just a moment. Ah crap. This is great. Holy smokes. Um, got flat flippers travel like 60°. Williams is like 53. Oh, it's mostly pirate. Pirate. Pirate. I have a question for you about Labyrinth. Thank you for reminding me I need to order another.
    15:50
    Um, you're like, "It's me. I I didn't know who you were cuz I couldn't see who you were." Um, they're live and streaming undefined. Good. Good for them. Pinbot, thank you. yard. What's the question? Do you have a Do you have a labyrinth? Question about your labyrinth. Have you ever come home and labyrinth. Have you ever come home and started up your labyrinth and it told you um six balls detected in trough, we only need five.
    16:41
    Okay. Also, it's probably because Oh, man. It's probably because your game wasn't played 70,000 times like ours was.
    17:02
    Oh, I love that one. Is that going to work? Who is that? Zeppune. What's up? Welcome in with Zeptoune.
    17:16
    Man, I haven't seen that redemption in forever. Yeah, our game is for some reason every once in a while think thinking that we put six balls in it. I even at one point I even lifted the playfield like shook it cuz a ball you can get a ball stuck in weird spots in Labyrinth, right? It it can it can really get I like shook it and I was like I shook it like it owed me money. I'm like, give me the ball back.
    18:03
    So, I got quartz trade and sarcophagus. I want to keep going.
    18:09
    Beth kind of sort of Hey, what's up? Hey, funny. I got some stargaze clips in my YouTube Rex. Did you really? That's random. Shoot the pyramid. What's up, flip stream? That's weird.
    18:43
    All right. Why are there so many multiballs in this game? Why are there so many multiballs in this game? What happened?
    19:11
    This is so good. This is so good. How is this game good now,
    19:24
    Uh, Jersey Jack was involved. Jersey Jack was involved. No. Flip stream is such a Jersey Jack hater. Uh, remember when movies were fun and unique? Yes. Remember Stargate? You guys remember the TV show?
    19:43
    So, around the time I was watching Stargate, which I wasn't really watching it, but my girlfriend at the time was watching it, and I was just it was just on in the room, so I don't really remember Stargate that that much, but she was she loved it. So, we were watching things like Stargate and Zena and Hercules and remember Highlander. We watch She was She was watching all these things. Highlander. I mean, she loves some Highlander. Boy,
    20:34
    Paul's the only one here who who would know one of my ex-girlfriends.
    20:44
    Ah, and X Files. All these shows I didn't watch, she watched and they were just on in the room.
    21:08
    I'm kind of sucking at this game, but I'm almost at I'm doing Safe Sorry now. Um, let's see. I don't remember. I saw I saw the movie like three times in the theater. What's up, Lady Sh? What's up? Uh, 37 Minutes to Shutdown. Oh, uh, the TV show is my dad's favorite show. Yeah, Stargate was great. I never watched the series, but I got a couple of clips from the series, too. And again, no, there can only be one. Um, loved Highlander. Yeah. Yeah, Highlander. Highlander I I was actually kind of into.
    21:46
    Highlander I thought was cool because Highlander had High Highlander had the best Highlander had the best theme music of any anything, right? Cuz it was Queen
    22:11
    Um, yeah, cuz it was Queen, so you always get pumped when you when Highlander came on. Uh, really me this the original Reese Stargate movie DVD had to flipped over halfway through. It's two-hour only DVD. Um,
    22:30
    I don't remember having to flip a DVD over. Oh, I was so close, you guys.
    22:48
    You sure? Okay. Uh-oh. You still have it. And you have to turn it over.
    23:02
    Yeah, I don't remember that. Um, there's a movie that might be okay, but it's basically ET. Um, it's just ET if it was a a xenomorph. What do you think? There's a mo there's a new movie that might be okay with Even I don't know the new movie um Beth kind of sort of I just got my hands on because everybody told me everybody's saying um Manu I streamed Alien from Freelo watch last week and everybody in the in the stream was like Manu you got to see Alien Earth you got to see Alien Earth you got to see Alien Earth so I'm going to start watching Alien Earth tonight I'm excited um if it's that good like I'm excited I want to check that out um Gettsburg DV had to be flipped oh interesting the only one I've ever seen on that. DVDs used to be lower density. Oh, okay. There's no such thing as a Highlander. There's no such thing as a Highlander, too. Got it. Got it. Lady Char. I There's no such thing as a To me, there's no such thing as a Matrix 4 or heaven forbid, Matrix 5. So, I I hear you. Um, could be one of the first released DVDs. 1996,97. It came with my first DVD player. It's called Zeno. Okay. I had a friend named Zeno. Um, what' you stream alien for? I streamed I was testing Isaiah.
    24:29
    I don't even know what sound. What the hell sound was that?
    24:36
    That was weird. The weirdest sound came out from my whatever doesn't exist. It's a good thing they stopped the Indiana Jones 3. Yeah, I know. It's a good thing they stopped the Indiana Jones 3. Let's try this again.
    25:04
    No. There we go. No. You know what? If you're going to expo, if I'm going when I go to expo, I'm going to see if Rob Burke brought his Stargate. I would love to play this physical one. Um, did you update it? Uh, yes, I did. Oh, Joe, here's the crazy thing. Joe. Joe.
    25:37
    No. Joe. Here's the crazy thing. Okay. I did all the updates. Is that sarcophagus? Got it. I did all the updates. I went from 4.0 to 4.1. 4.1 to 4 I went No, I went from 4.0 to 4.1. Then I went No, I went from 4.0 to 4.1. Then I had to do a firmware update. So, I did the firmware update. Then I went from 4.1 to 4.2. I did all that. That can't be my multi. No, guys. Seriously, that was my whole multiball.
    26:12
    [ __ ] And once I did once I got it to 4.2, the lower. Yo, what's good? Good. It's been a while, hasn't it? What's up, Octo Chris? Damn. It's like high school reunion up here. What's up?
    26:39
    Need to hit the attabballs. I don't know where the att Where's the attabal shot? But Joe, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Um, the point is same plot as ET, but it's a xenom monster. Cute, dangerous, beasty. How do we feel about this? What is that sound? What?
    27:00
    [Music] Something is making a weird sound. Are you hearing my printer? Is that my printer? Okay, Joe. As soon as I started it up, the lower flippers didn't work anymore.
    27:25
    And I was like, "Wait a minute." A [ __ ] I was like, "Why don't the lower the I was like, "Why don't the lower the only the upper flippers would fire?" Can you guess why, Joe? The lower flippers not at all. The upper flippers they were. Can you guess why? Uh, the point the not No, not that fuse. Not USB cable. Oh, it's stupider than that. It's way stupider than that. So we our alien is so old it does not have um it no it does not have dual leaf switches. Our alien is so old it does not have Our alien is so old it does not have dual leaf switches. And I remember when I was working on that game, the owner of the game ordered a bunch of stuff from Pinball Brothers. And one thing that came in the updated package was dual leaf switches for the lower for the for the flippers.
    28:22
    I'm I'm kind of saying we need to do a retelling of ET. Do we need a retelling of ET? You know what, Beth? They're retelling everything. Let just let them do it. Let them throw money. We won't get any new IPs. Our generation will never get a new IP.
    28:43
    No, Isaiah, that was a different that was a completely different That was a completely different issue that I finally fixed. But the new code defaults to stage flipping as normal. So, if you had an old alien and you updated the code, you lost your lower flippers because stage flipping is now turned on by default. And if you don't have stage flips, the fires, the tops fire and the bottoms don't. So, it took me about 10 minutes to realize, wait a minute, let me check the settings and see if there's a stage flipping setting now. And lo and behold, it was. So, I had to turn them both off because I'm not installing stage flippers on that because I don't care. That's the end of the story right there, Joe. So, well, uh, let's see. Dead fuse USB cable. Um, Neutron. Well, one thing Stern IC does is phone home. What's up, Swizzle? Zero new IPs. New Highlander delayed. Not sure how I feel about it anyway. New Highlander. You get terrible Space Tank game with cows and you like H
    29:58
    God, I did so much better in the first game. And why is it why is it impossible to hit the Stargate?
    30:08
    Why is it impossible to hit the freaking Stargate from the left flipper or any flipper for that matter?
    30:25
    this is great. Apous. Oh my god, you guys. Oh, this is this plays so well.
    30:42
    Damn, this makes the game kind of fun. What's up, queen? Yeah, for a is this a newly released table? Um, this I think is relatively new. It came out September 20 something, but VPW uh got their hands on it. Got their dirty little nasty hands all over this table. It's They just dirtied this table up and now it plays great.
    31:06
    Queen, you do. So, I'm going to try and see if I can't wait. I'm going to go when I go I can't wait. I'm going to go when I go to expo. Isaiah, we got to look for a Stargate, man. We got to find see if there's a Stargate that works. Only Stargate in like the Bay Area is like TJ has one, but I don't know where he has it on location. Yeah, the good kind of filthy. Um, Virtual Pin Games or something. You're right. They're making another Tron sequel. Yeah, I want to see that one though. I kind of want to see the Neutron. Call me a sucker. And I want to see the Neutron in the theater. I have to. I've seen every Tron in the theater.
    31:48
    Um, this game, this this game I don't I'm going to start a new game. Oops, I drained. Oh no. Oh no. What happened? Ah, I'm going to try another one cuz this is I'm going to try another one cuz this is this is crazy fun, man.
    32:03
    I haven't seen this pin IRL, but I've heard of the concept of Stargate. I've heard of the concept of Stargate on TV.
    32:13
    Um, it's kind of hard to tell that it's not real. Oh, that's cool. That's cuz I shoot it with a real camera and it's a real high res screen with 120 frames per second or hertz or doesn't hurt or something. Um, there have been a couple of stargates at CL PIN. Is that near you? What is CL pin? Cleveland pin. Um, might be fine. It's got Quicksilver in it or the actor for Quicksilver. Yeah. Uh, is a head tracking 3D version still a thing? U forget it was called the game shifts of view. Uh, you know what Sizzlefish? I uh not so much anymore. Not that I know of. And when I did when I did play with that, that was on Future Pinball. But the um VR, the VR worked great. I'm going to check this out in VR. Oh, Cleveland pinball and arcade show. Nice. Y'all got all the Stargates. Come on, give up some of them Stargates. Give me a Stargate. Uh thing is with the Neutron is that it wouldn't have been made without Jared Leto. So, it exists solely because Jar really wanted it. Oh, I didn't know that. No. You know what, Swizzle? I I I I don't think it's a gimmick anymore because it's so legit. Like I've I've flipped um Matrix in the VR and it's amazing and we're not even done with it and it's amazing. I mean that's because you know Flux and all of them are just insane when it comes to rendering makebelieve pinball machines and real pinball machines. Is that it? Got it. Sarcophagic is done. Off the plunge.
    34:10
    Disney needs to lock up Tron. Well, he did for a little while. [Applause] Okay. What's he Where's the attabal again?
    34:24
    Where's the attall? Um, Joe, I'm recovering from a cold and I keep uh I'm recovering from a cold and I keep uh imagining you looking you looking in museums or something for actual star stargates or replicas. JP shoots. JP shots. What's up, homegrown Disney? What are the JP shots? Jackpots. What frame rate are you running your games at? Oh, 120. It's a 144 screen, but I only run at 120. What are the JP shots? Jackpot shots.
    35:00
    Um, that's what I thought. Jackpot's flashing. Okay, got it. That's what I That was what I have thought before I reminded myself what's being played tonight. I've always wanted one of those neon Flynn's arcade. Yeah, hell yeah.
    35:26
    Ah, George. George, do I come on your stream and distract you? Come on, man. I fell out of that multiol because of George.
    35:45
    George, I hear I hear your birthday's coming up. I hear somebody's birth. I hear somebody's turning 26.
    35:59
    SHOPPING A NEW PC. OH, WHAT? [Music] HOMEGROWN. HOMEGROWN. HOMEGROWN. Please tell me you got like a 5090 graphics card. cuz that price is redonkulous. There's no reason you should have paid that much. Please tell me you got like a 6090. Like Nvidia is like, "Hey, hey, Homegrown, we're going to let you test the graphics card that's not even out." AMD,
    36:36
    I'm jealous of all you guys that get these. I'm actually I'm not I'm really not jealous, but I'm going to say I'm jealous of all you guys who get uh hired by pinball companies. Now, [Music] apparently all you have to do is be a streamer and then a pinball company will hire you cuz Homegrown literally has no other talent than streaming. No other talent than streaming. Dirty Pool, no talent other than streaming. and Dirty Pool listened to like a radio once or twice and they were like, "We'll hire you for audio."
    37:12
    I'm not a I'm not I'm not I know, right? Talentless hacks. I just re repasted my 2070 Super. It's 25 degrees cooler in here. Uh I'll share the bill to you and George if you care. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Homegrown. Oh my god. You you homegrown I have never outside of a laptop outside of a laptop I have never purchased a pre-built machine in my life because if I were to I'd have to hand in my nerd card and and get all give give up all my nerd and and get all give give up all my nerd priv privileges.
    37:59
    I will never let somebody build a PC for me. Yeah, Homegrown is working for Barrels of Fun now. Home World works for barrels of fun. I had I George George, listen to this story. I personally had lunch with David Vaness. I whined and dined David Vaness. I took him to Mad Dog. We had turkey sandwiches together. We played X-Men. Maybe it was the X-Men part. We did all kinds of neat stuff together. And then you know what he did? Do you know what he did? He hired Homegrown
    39:19
    [Applause] Don't y'all congratulate him. What are you doing? Why are you congratulating Homegrown?
    39:34
    How are you? Homegrown has a beautiful wife, which I have pictures of. Homegrown has bunches of pinball machines. He's got a Harry Potter. He's got beautiful kids. OH, NO. NO. NO. YOU'RE NOT GONNA NO, NO. RICK IS NOT GOING TO DISTUR. NO, RICK. NO, I'm all right.
    40:04
    Okay, I got it. I got it. I'll be quiet. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I'm done. I'm done. I'm good. I'm good. I use my own damn stream against me. All right.
    40:24
    homegrown. I'm I really want to see that 9900 DX. I really want to I want to see what a $5,500 machine will get you nowadays. I really want to see what a 5500 $5,900 machine will get you.
    40:46
    You did that yourself. Envy turning green. It's all about manu. This is not working out for me today. This is so good. I got to give it to the VPW team once again. This shoots like freaking amazing.
    41:55
    What do you want me to shoot? I'm not paying attention right now. Hollywood polo would like to know what you put in your mouth recently on
    42:22
    Hollywood. Welcome in. Let's see. Either to yourself 5500 times insanely powerful or one has a 5090 card in it. Can it run crisis? Um I had a bagel with I had like a chicken bagel. I had a bagel with like spicy chicken and barbecue sauce and onions. [Music] No. Homegrown, please. No. Homegrown. Did you not Do you not know how to use PC part picker? No. Please say Homegrown, get off the stream right now. Rebuild it as fast as you can.
    43:09
    it's really hard to postp pass with these gotly flippers. There we go. Homegrown, go rebuild your thing quick.
    43:27
    It's really hard to postp pass. Ah, I blew that. Oh, George, if you're still here, George, I got to ask you if you'd be willing to do Oh, [Music] George, I got to ask you. When you go to expo, one coin for extra balls. one coin for extra balls. When are you going When are you going to When are you going When are you going to expo? And then I won't bother you anymore, George. I promise I won't bother you.
    44:01
    What day are you going to expo? Sunday. All right, never mind.
    44:12
    It's definitely my PC. Evidently, not my phone. Okay, good. Share that list, homegrown, because I want to see what that list. Um, papa's all meat. Nice. Damn. Um, no. I don't need a ride. I'm good. Uh, everything. Well, do I
    44:35
    mean I do need a ride from the airport? Yeah, but that's not what I was going to ask you. I'm coming on on Thursday. I wasn't going to I wasn't going to ask you cuz I already asked you like 17 expose in a row and I was like I was not going to ask you that. What I was going to ask you was if you could hold off on playing Harry Potter until I got there,
    45:02
    but don't play Harry Potter. Play Harry Potter. Play Harry Potter cuz I I I I want to see No, you can't. No, you don't have to wait for me because I want to see your reaction to how insanely good it is. But at the same time, George, sometimes you scare me cuz sometimes you're like you're sometimes you're Mr. You played it twice. Okay. Sometimes you're Mr. H. This game is not that great. I'm a little I'm okay. It's amazing. I'm scared of George, you guys. I'm scared of George. Like, I'll be like, we'll be Whoa. Thank you, Hollywood. We'll literally be playing like, you know, Keith's Elvin's like greatest cornerstone with with the thing in the jello pudding pop and everybody be like, "Yeah, it's the greatest game ever." And George will come in and be like, "Not my jam."
    46:06
    And it'll walk away. And it'll walk away like this. not my tempo. Oh, yeah. HP is HP is pretty good. I had Isaiah. I had three really bad games on Harry today and I was just like, you know what, f you game. And then I left. AMD Ryzen Thread Ripper 79 550 WX. Let's wait. 70 79 550 WX 80 megabytes count 16 cores, 32 threads, 4.5 gigs of 5.30. Um, Windows 11 blah blah blah. AMD Radeon. Why did you go with a Radeon? I'm curious. AMD Radeon Pro W7600 8 gigs. Why did you go with a Radeon? Uh 64 gigs of memory. DDR5. Um
    47:27
    hard drive with 256 gigs. Seems this seems weird. Godzilla sucks. Also maiden and whatever game you like sucks.
    47:38
    Yeah. So, okay. Homegrown. Hang on a second. I mean, no haterism. Okay. No haterism on AMD as a processor,
    47:55
    Yeah. Half your budgets on that Thread Ripper. This seems weird, homegrown to a lot of people in chat right now. Um,
    48:12
    yeah, chat, let's build let's rip this build apart. I've got the 20 gigabyte AMD card in a kick ass. Okay, the 20. Yeah, but he didn't get the 20 gigabyte AMD card. Hollywood, he did not get that card.
    48:30
    It drives a 3D software better than it is. Evidently, I'm still questionable, too. We've been caught with our shields down. We've been caught with our shields down. He uses my way to the mystery pinball He uses my way to the mystery pinball Theater. Who's that? Who's that? Hello, Raiders. Welcome to Pinball Hello, Raiders. Welcome to Pinball Theater 3000. I am your host, Vision. Thank you for the raid. Oh my Vision. Thank you for the raid. Oh my god. Vision and Surreal. Okay, Okay, listen. Listen, listen. Vision. Surreal. Homegrown is getting ripped to shreds right now because of the build, the PC build that he makes for his new rig for Homegrown. Homegrown. Homegrown. No one's ripping you. I'm not ripping you. I'm not ripping. I'm just questioning some of the choices that you made because they have to be very specific. BS or not. They have to be very specific to your job. And I need everyone to be to understand maybe Homegrown is picking um things that are specific to their job. That being said, Surreal, can you scroll back a little bit and look at the build that Homegrown has spent 50 almost has put together for $5,400 um of a PC for primarily I guess Maya Homegrown. Are you are you using Maya? you. Yeah. Maya for Maya and stuff like that. So, if you want to talk homegrown, if you want to talk to somebody who knows these machines, it's surreal.
    50:06
    I'm going to play a little pinball. I'mma let you guys talk to homegrown. Y'all take it easy, okay? They take it easy. We're not starting the AMD versus Intel battle here. But personally, if I was to spend $5,500, and I'll tell you this, and I'll get it right out of the way. If I was going to spend $5,500 on a machine, I'd get an Intel
    50:31
    processor and I'd get an Nvidia graphics card. Oh, by the way, by the way, Ill Robinson homegrown Il Robinson works in the games industry. Ill Robinson has an Emmy for like you for doing this [ __ ] So maybe talk to Il Robinson, too.
    51:08
    Okay, you're getting some good advice. I'm going to play I'm going to play one more game game game blouses. I'm going to let you guys talk it out. I'm going to let you guys talk it out. I'm not a pro. I am not a pro at PC builds, but I have built PCs. Um, I worked in the IT department for way longer than I wanted to. Um,
    51:35
    I I I've I've done my share of of pinballs of uh hardware. That being said, I understand that there are reasons to buy certain bits of hardware.
    52:20
    AMD equals poor. We got everybody chiming in right now. Oh my god. AMD makes a better processors right now and the Thread Ripper is great. Most Maya and Blender isn't going to work. What? Okay. Vision makes a good point. Most Maya and Blender work is going to be GPU bound.
    52:39
    Um, the codec for rendering on Nvidia is simply better. I don't Here's the thing. I didn't have any trouble with with Homegrown's choice of an AMD Thread Ripper. No, no problem. Half my house, half my house is Intel, the other half is AMD. It was just I need to know why the Radeon graphics card and not the 20 gig that Hollywood is talking about. Just kind of the one that was picked,
    53:18
    And I'm hoping you're spending um barrels of funds money and not and not your own. I need you to pause and tell.
    53:31
    It's possible that you should just go with the AMD and the Nvidia card. Yeah, I think everybody's saying get an Nvidia
    53:51
    That's what my lead That's what my IT lead recommended. Yeah, just Why don't you go with the 3DFX Voodoo?
    54:11
    It's not about performance, it's about fashion. Oh wow. Sounds like the IT lead team still. It sounds like the IT lead is team red till he's dead. Team red. Yeah,
    54:29
    you can run two of those voodoo cards in parallel. That's alive. Oh god, no. Shut up. SLI was garbage. I'm not even going to yesand that [ __ ] I'm not even going to yesand that [ __ ] I did SLI once and I was like, this is terrible. Shut your mouth. I'm not yesanding SLI. Sorry, I can't. Oh my god.
    55:07
    Hit the target. Hit the target. Manu. Oh man, this ball goes fast. Got it. Nope. Missed it. I bet I can backhand it. Oh no. I can backhand this target. Oh no. I can backhand this target. Got it.
    55:41
    This is so good. Good job, BPW again. Oh my god. Oh, so good. Let me see if I get team ready. Team red CPU, team green, GPU. Yeah, I agree with Paul. had 2x 3D effects running. Hercules monochrome for the win. CGA all the way.
    56:16
    Okay. So, and I both hit the manufacturing problems with the 13th gen. It'd be hard to buy another one. I have Okay. I didn't Yeah, I didn't say 13th gen. And I was like 10enth gen Intel or something like that. 10th gen, 11th gen. Obviously a bigger conversation to have here. Ha. I think I'm just done using computers. There's no future in it. I moved to an abacus. Uh for sure. I hear that. You just ask AI to do everything. AI play pinball for me like real good and stuff. Intel Core Ultra 9 285K and an Nvidia RTX Pro 5000 Blackwell Flipstream has just given you the game you need to to to build. One more game for me. One more game for me cuz this is great. By the way, guys, this is all about VPW Stargate. Go to V uh Visual Pinball V uh VP Universe and download it. I had a little bit of trouble getting the right ROM to run with this.
    57:39
    Got it. Sarcophagus first. System 3 games need a factory reset. Is that true, Joe? Cuz that actually did work. I wish I had remembered that or known that.
    58:04
    I want to hold on to one of these balls. Damn it. Wow.
    58:21
    Yeah, I had an issue on my first boot also. And the second boot, all the issues went away. Once again, I want to thank I want to thank Paladin and M. Carter and Apous um for all help trying to help me. And I put a I put a call out and saying this is the first time I had to actually this was like one of the this was like one of the first times where I tapped out. I was like I can't get this to work. I really want to play this. I don't usually hit my Discord and say, "Hey guys, please help me get this game running." Cuz I I have pride.
    58:57
    But this time I gave up on pride and I was like I just want to play. Damn. There goes my jackpot. So, thank you all for helping. Damn it. AMD still hasn't sorted out their GPU compatibility and driver issues from the ATI days. I personally had issues with um ATI the the Rad the old Radeon 7 that I had. Um the only reason I purchased it is because I was running a um what do they call it? A Hackintosh. I was running a Hackintosh. Um, in fact, here I want to
    60:07
    You guys want to see something fun from Manu from a long time ago? Check that video out when I'm done. It's a video that we did on my old channel, Pull My Focus, where we did a little sketch between the Mac and the PC and they have a baby and it's a Hackintosh and then I do a whole explanation about how I did my Hackintosh. It's real old. Um uh although I still love that video. I I loved when we used to do that channel. So check that out. But that was my that was my Hackintosh build back in the day. Um yeah. Yeah. That was that was a fun video to do, too. That was a great shot. Shoot. And Courtney Pinbot Pinbot is in that video, you guys. Pinbot's voice is in that video. Not Pinbot. Courtney. Courtney. Um, Courtney Schaffer is in that video.
    61:01
    So, if you're interested in seeing Pinbot, the real Pinbot, then go check that video out. Um, the only reason I ever own ATI graphics card was for integrated TV tuner capability way back when. I have a 6T900 and haven't had any issues. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Razor Randon. I had the only reason I had issues is when I I bought the Radeon so that I could have full compatibility with the Hackintosh side, right? Because Mac and um Apple and Nvidia broke up and once they broke up, you couldn't get drivers for any of the Nvidia cards. Even even machines that had an Nvidia card built into it lost its driver support. Um, so I was running my Hackintosh for like four years just fine, no issues. But whenever I switched over to PC, um, I struggled with that card. Remember, it was the same. Hackintosh is is both, right? A PC and a Mac. So whenever I switched over to the PC side, I it was a it was a bit of a struggle to get games and stuff to work, right? And once the Hackintosh once the Hackintosh the idea of a Hackintosh disappeared
    62:17
    um I went back over to the dark the green team blue.
    62:27
    Yeah. And mine was many years old. Mine was many years old. I'm sure it's I'm sure it's fine now.
    62:35
    Look at Look, Razor. Look at how young I look in that video. That That'll That'll tell you how old I That'll tell you how old those issues were. I had hair. I actually had hair. Look. Look at me, I actually had hair. Look. Look at me, right?
    63:02
    I did shoot the sacus. Man, you can ramp this [ __ ] for days. This is fun. You could ramp for freaking days. Ramp. Ramp. Ramp.
    63:26
    Let's effing go with the ramping. I'm ramping. I'm ramping. I'm cool. Cool. Ramping. Uh.
    63:36
    Oh, weird. Oh, the ball got trapped behind the um standup target over there. How's the right orbit on this one? Yeah, the right orbit is pretty easy on this game. I wonder what kind of [ __ ] would make a game with a really tough right orbit that's like a really important shot. I don't know. We're about the same age. Only Only an evil bastard would make a a a hard Hey, Flipstream. In my defense, in my defense, I did not ask for that right shot to be so hard on Matrix. In my defense, you shot the scoop to start a mode. And I think I'm going to throw Astro.
    64:27
    You know what's I'm going to throw Astro and the Fishbowl under the bus for that because they they asked for that to be all the way up there. But a uh the fishbowl tells me the actual physical game that they're building that right orbit is way easier to hit.
    64:45
    I'm like, well, I'm glad to know that the actual physical matrix is easier to shoot than the Bpin. Let's go. All right, guys. I'm out. Uh this is uh Stargate VPW. Another just freaking wonderfully shooting game. This game shoots so well. Um I can't wait to get my hands on a physical one so I can play it for a little bit. Um yeah, that no one else on the planet is going to get to play, but that's okay. No, I'm going to go out when I next time I go out to Austin. I'm going to Paul, we need to take a road trip. We need to go out to the Fishbowl's house. That's what we'll do next time I come out to Austin. Paul, me and you, we're going to drive out to the Fishbowl's house and we're going to play Matrix.
    65:35
    Thank you, Dwood. All right, guys. Aha. Make me make me big again.
    65:42
    Uh, who's who's streaming right now? You know what I did? So, listen guys, tomorrow is George's birthday. Don't panic flip. Tomorrow is George's birthday. We're going to rate Homegrown, but we're definitely all going to join Don't Panic Flip tomorrow on his birthday stream, right? He's got a birthday stream. We're all going to go over there. I'm going to rate Homeg Grown, but we're all going to go to his birthday stream tomorrow. Make sure you do that. Make sure everyone goes to George's birthday stream tomorrow. All right. All right. I'm going to spread the love around a little bit and go over to homegrown. But if you go if you don't want to stick around for the raid, just go over to don't don't panic flip. I can't tell you what to do with your effing lives. Don't put that kind of pressure on me.
    66:37
    Don't put that kind of pressure on me. I'm not P. It's bits allows follows
    67:18
    mystery. Three P P pinball pinball pinball theater theater. Yeah. YES.