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Bash Pinball covers Pinfest games: new Spooky titles, vintage classics, and criticism of Multimorphic Princess Bride design.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Looney Tunes from Spooky share the same basic playfield, shots, ramps, toys and mechanisms
high confidence · Matt explicitly states both games are essentially identical mechanically, with different code/rules/animations by different teams
Barry O's Barbecue Challenge is a tribute to Barry Orsler, who passed away recently and may have died before the game was finished
medium confidence · Matt notes Barry O is credited as designer but 'may have died before it was finished' — uncertainty acknowledged
Looney Tunes felt more forgiving and easier than Texas Chainsaw Massacre despite sharing the same playfield
high confidence · Direct play experience: 'I had longer games on Looney Tunes I was progressing easier'
Texas Chainsaw Massacre is probably the first version Spooky designed, with Looney Tunes as the afterthought
medium confidence · Matt observes design elements (meat grinder, slow-spinning Tasmanian Devil) make more sense for TCM, implying it was primary design
Princess Bride is a Multimorphic game with a standard cabinet priced around $11,500 and kit-only option starting at $3,700
high confidence · Matt provides specific pricing: 'standard edition is like 11,500 or something' and 'kit's very in price... $3,000 to $4,000'
Princess Bride premium kit costs around $5,000 just for the kit
medium confidence · Matt states 'premium one or whatever is like $5,000 just for the kit' with some uncertainty in phrasing
Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Looney Tunes are not as mechanically ambitious as other Spooky games, lacking three-layer upper playfields
high confidence · Matt notes lack of 'absurd three-layer upper play fields and things like that, which is good' and suggests Spooky is 'overly ambitious'
Gottlieb's Bad Girls playfield and art/music are nearly identical copies of Michael Jackson's Bad Album
high confidence · Matt's friend states 'the art and music is basically an exact copy of Michael Jackson's Bad Album' and acknowledges Gottlieb 'copied a lot of games'
“Both Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Looney Tunes from Spooky are not unlike Halloween and Ultraman in that they are the same basic play field. All the shots and ramps and toys and mechanisms and stuff are the same.”
Matt @ ~13:00 — Establishes the key complaint about Spooky's playfield reuse strategy across multiple licensed titles
“They say that they had different teams doing the code and the rules and animations and all that stuff. So they're different... Looney Tunes was the easier game. I had longer games on Looney Tunes I was progressing easier.”
Matt @ ~14:30 — Explains differentiation strategy despite identical hardware; notes subjective play experience differences
“I'd probably gravitate more towards Texas Chainsaw, but also like that movie's gross... it's pretty gross of all the horror franchises... pretty nasty... constant references to eating people and body parts. Yeah, yeah. It's very over the top.”
Matt @ ~16:00 — Articulates reservation about horror theme intensity despite appreciating horror films generally
“I almost wish there was like a middle ground theme between looney tunes... I don't see myself like ever wanting to own either of those themes.”
Matt @ ~18:30 — Expresses fundamental theme/aesthetic mismatch problem with reused playfield approach for home collectors
“These both felt more polished than any other spooky games that I've played... they were really fun to shoot... it was like the Keith Elwin version of a spooky game.”
Matt @ ~19:30 — Positive assessment of mechanical polish and shot quality compared to other Spooky releases
“I love Princess Bride. I remember everything from that movie. I must have seen it 50 times when I was a kid... The six-fingered man. I will go up to the six-fingered man and say, Hello. My name is Yenigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.”
Don @ ~47:00 — Demonstrates genuine affection for Princess Bride IP despite criticisms of game execution
“I wish anybody other than Multimorphic had gotten a license for it... I would have much rather that Barrels of Fun had this license because that would have been a game that I was actually interested in.”
collector_signal: Reused playfield strategy creates collector dissatisfaction due to theme misalignment (children's cartoon on horror playfield) despite being functionally sound, limiting home collector market appeal
high · Matt: 'I almost wish there was like a middle ground theme... I don't see myself like ever wanting to own either of those themes'
sentiment_shift: Positive reception of mechanical execution and polish on new Spooky games despite theme concerns; X-Men (2012 Stern) rated as best overall playing machine at festival
high · Matt: 'These both felt more polished than any other spooky games... X-Men... was maybe the best playing game that anybody brought to Pinfest. It played great.'
competitive_signal: Spooky's TCM/Looney Tunes share identical base mechanics with different code/animation teams implementing differentiation strategy; community notes Looney Tunes feels more forgiving/easier despite identical hardware
high · Matt: 'They say that they had different teams doing the code and the rules and animations... Looney Tunes was the easier game... I had longer games on Looney Tunes I was progressing easier'
design_philosophy: Gottlieb's Bad Girls (1988) alleged to be near-direct copy of Michael Jackson's Bad Album in playfield and artwork/music; raises historical IP appropriation questions
high · Matt's friend: 'the exact same play field and the art and music is basically an exact copy of Michael Jackson's Bad Album. I know Gottlieb copied a lot of games, but this one is straight up ridiculous'
design_philosophy: Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Looney Tunes share identical playfield mechanics despite vastly different themes; design elements (meat grinder, slow Tasmanian Devil) suggest TCM was primary design with Looney Tunes as afterthought, compromising both themes
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Princess Bride playfield design feels cramped with miniaturized shots crammed into a small back area due to LCD screen taking up two-thirds of the cabinet
high confidence · Matt describes feeling: 'extra, extra miniature' with 'just a row of shots across the back' and everything 'crammed' and 'miniature'
Multimorphic's Princess Bride has scoop mechanisms that pop up and drop down across the back of the playfield
high confidence · Matt describes 'scoop things that go all the way across the back... maybe two inches... maybe six of them' that 'can rise up out of the play field'
Matt @ ~49:00 — Key licensing sentiment: preference for different manufacturer despite acknowledging game exists for interested players
“The whole concept is just... you have this kind of worse quality screen that's under the play field... the balls are rolling over the display. It's modular... it all just feels a little bit compromised to me.”
Matt @ ~44:00 — Core criticism of Multimorphic's design philosophy: LCD playfield compromises traditional pinball feel
“Jaws would have probably been... a better game. Think about all the levels... the artwork, the kind of vibe... if it was made by Spooky. Oh, yeah. That would have been an awesome game.”
Matt and Don @ ~56:00 — Speculative contrast showing preference for Spooky's aesthetic/design approach over Stern's theme execution on similar licenses
“X-Men. That was the 2012-ish Stern. That was maybe the best playing game that anybody brought to Pinfest. It played great... It's fun. It feels like Tron.”
Matt @ ~39:00 — High praise for vintage Stern machine mechanics and playability compared to newly released games at festival
high · Matt: 'They're basically the same game... it's pretty clear that texas chainsaw is probably like the first one that they came up with because like the mechs and the toys and things seem...' and notes meat grinder 'just doesn't really make a lot of sense for looney tunes'
design_philosophy: Spooky Pinball pursuing mechanical sophistication with feature-rich designs (three-layer playfields, complex toys) that may sacrifice reliability; new TCM/Looney Tunes represent more conservative approach
high · Matt: 'Spooky is just overly ambitious with their designs, and maybe that's why they weren't as reliable... In this case – they don't have the absurd three-layer upper play fields... which is good... maybe they won't break as much'
licensing_signal: Princess Bride license went to Multimorphic; community sentiment indicates preference for Barrels of Fun to have received license instead for potentially superior design execution
high · Matt: 'I wish anybody other than Multimorphic had gotten a license for it... I would have much rather that Barrels of Fun had this license because that would have been a game that I was actually interested in'
personnel_signal: Barry O's Barbecue Challenge represents tribute to deceased designer Barry Orsler; uncertainty about whether he completed design before death; credited as designer on finished product
medium · Matt: 'Barry O is Barry Orsler. He passed away recently. And so this game, I think, was a game that he was working on. I think he's credited as the designer, but maybe he may have died before it was finished'
product_strategy: Multimorphic's modular kit system ($3,700-$5,000 per kit) creates complications for owners regarding cabinet artwork/stickers and game switching, adding friction to ownership experience
medium · Matt: 'the idea is you can swap out the kit... there's also the whole like, do you... want to put the stickers and all that stuff on the cabinet if you're just going to switch out the kit... it feels like a hassle'
product_launch: Barry O's Barbecue Challenge experienced extended downtime during Pinfest ('at least half a day it was down'), raising reliability concerns for new American Pinball release
medium · Matt: 'It did break for a while also, so that's at least half a day it was down'
product_concern: Multimorphic Princess Bride execution compromised by LCD screen taking up two-thirds of playfield, resulting in cramped, miniaturized shot layout that feels 'compromised' to player
high · Matt: 'it's just a row of shots across the back and everything is like extra, extra miniature... They just cram it all into the back and it all kind of feels very mini. Gross.'
sentiment_shift: Despite significant affection for Princess Bride IP, game design implementation creates zero interest in ownership for otherwise enthusiastic fans
high · Don expresses deep Princess Bride fandom with detailed quotes; Matt immediately follows: 'I have zero interest in ever owning or anything. It's unfortunate.'