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Mystery Pinball Theater 3000·video·33m 32s·analyzed·Jun 1, 2019
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TL;DR

VRVP VR port of Visual Pinball demonstrated with gameplay improvements and technical details.

Summary

Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 demonstrates VRVP, a Visual Pinball port enabling VR gameplay via HTC Vive, showcasing improved gameplay mechanics through spatial awareness and near-zero flipper lag. The host plays multiple tables (Big Ben, Whitewater, Congo, Twilight Zone) in VR, highlighting both the immersive experience and remaining beta issues like dark ambient lighting and ball visibility. The project remains in active development with optimization opportunities depending on graphics card capability (tested on GTX 980).

Key Claims

  • VRVP achieves near-zero flipper lag (less than 20 milliseconds) due to VR display driver optimization requirements

    high confidence · Host's technical explanation of latency in VR vs. pancake 2D display

  • Player gameplay has improved since playing in VR due to ability to look at shots and angle them with eyes

    medium confidence · Host's observation of personal skill improvement after switching to VR

  • VRVP is still in beta/alpha stage with ongoing optimization needed

    high confidence · Host confirms 'still in beta' and 'still a work in progress' multiple times

  • GTX 980 graphics card runs Visual Pinball VR tables adequately for most tables

    high confidence · Host's direct system specification and performance observation

  • Oculus Quest at $399 is a standalone VR headset requiring no PC

    high confidence · Host's product specification and endorsement

Notable Quotes

  • “The only way I want to play Big Ben now is in virtual reality because I can look.”

    Mystery Pinball Theater 3000@ 3:43 — Demonstrates core appeal of VR pinball—spatial awareness advantage

  • “There's almost zero flipper lag and I think I know why. Because in VR you can't have lag, otherwise you get sick. So they managed to get the display drivers and all that... less than 20 milliseconds.”

    Mystery Pinball Theater 3000@ 10:36 — Technical insight into why VR solves a persistent emulation problem

  • “You literally forget you're not playing a real machine. You're playing a real machine in some weird world.”

    Mystery Pinball Theater 3000@ 21:04 — Captures immersion quality of VR pinball experience

  • “I'm not getting any kick. This is not sponsored by Oculus at all. This is a game-changing device right here. Hands down.”

    Mystery Pinball Theater 3000@ 23:58 — Authentic endorsement with transparency about sponsorship status

  • “I'm going to try to show you as best I can. But trust me there's it will not blow your mind this way through Twitch. It will blow your mind if you were here and you were looking through the HMD.”

    Mystery Pinball Theater 3000@ 2:03 — Acknowledges fundamental challenge of streaming VR experience

Entities

Mystery Pinball Theater 3000organizationVRVPproductVisual PinballproductHTC ViveproductOculus QuestproductBig BengameWhitewatergameCongogame

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 actively developing streaming format and technical setup to showcase emerging VR pinball technology to community

    high · Host discusses plans for better stream layout, mentions working on presentation methods, plans future VR pinball streams

  • ?

    product_strategy: VRVP solves flipper lag problem in virtual pinball through VR display pipeline optimization, achieving sub-20ms latency compared to visible lag in 2D emulation

    high · Host's technical explanation of latency solution and direct observation of zero perceived flipper lag in VR vs. visible lag on pancake display

  • ?

    technology_signal: VRVP beta still has rendering issues including dark ambient lighting making ball hard to see, inconsistent ball color rendering across tables

    high · Host notes throughout stream that most tables are very dark, ball appears dark/white/hard to see on different tables, identifies these as beta issues needing optimization

  • ?

    technology_signal: VRVP represents significant advancement in virtual pinball by enabling full 3D VR gameplay with spatial awareness, addressing a core limitation of 2D pancake display emulation

    high · Host repeatedly emphasizes how VR gameplay improves skill through ability to look at shots; demonstrates on multiple tables with consistent results

Transcript

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0:00
Testing 1, 2, 1, 2, 3. Long time no see. It's been a very long time. Hello, I'm MPT3K. Let's try that again. I am MPT3K. The channel is MPT3K. Pinball is MPT3K. And what I'm trying to do today is show you guys how amazing virtual reality pinball is and how far it's come. So I've been Panning around with this This cabinet I built A long time ago And I've been having a ball with it Playing different pinball games and stuff Got the haptic feedback Got the lights, got the tilt bob Got the shaker motor Got the clicky clackies Got all the fun stuff But it's still 2D, it's still pancake As we call it in virtual reality world It's still pancake because it's just a flat screen that you're playing. So you really can't look at your shots and angle your shots with your eyes. You kind of just have to know where the shot is on the flipper and go for it. Well, that has changed because a really talented guy who started this project called VRVP has ported over the visual pinball code to utilize your virtual reality HMD. yes to utilize your virtual reality hmd so in the future i guess every table that is available in visual pinball will be able to be played in virtual reality i am going to try as best i can to show you but trust me there's it will not blow your mind this way through twitch it will blow your mind if you were here and you were looking through the HMD. So I've got my trusty Vive here,
2:20
my HTC Vive, and I'm going to try and show you as best I can. I have completely destroyed my V-Pin, my pinball cabinet, and all kinds of stuff. I have all kinds of weird cameras and stuff. There's no easy way to show this, but here, let's take a look at what I have done. And that is this shot here.
2:48
So we are playing Big Bang Bar in virtual reality. Check this out. So here's what I have happening. And forgive me if it does that little freezing also. it'll it'll for some reason it'll freeze my capture freeze i need to come up with a better system to do this um my laptop is capturing things from my desktop and this is the view from the hdc vive um have you seen my battery have i seen your battery no i haven't i have not i'm sorry my wife's looking for her battery um yeah so this is big bang bar and this is pretty much the only way i want to play big bang bar now is in virtual reality because i can look if you look i'm gonna zoom in so this table is rendered in visual pinball what up dirty toes i'm showing off I'm trying to show as best I can. Virtual reality visual pinball. This table was rendered strictly in visual pinball on the PC. But this genius of a person converted things over to OpenGL so when it renders it doesn't render on visual pinball. It renders on screen. It renders in your HMD. Look at that. everything is a 3d object I hear an echo for myself oh I will love to play a game I wish there was a way dirty toes I wish there was a better way for me to show you this this is mind-blowing this will blow your mind look at this so if I step back the table now I have it mapped directly to my machine so when I touch the flippers on the virtual table it feels like it's right here because my machine is right here bottom left cameras down oh that camera oh I could fix that camera that's a little weird right I can fix that camera easy that is usually my pinball camera and I'm going to fix it right now okay all right yep we are back I am pushing my machines so hard to do this it's like I'm pushing them to the limit so whenever I click back here let me start a game there's a ball and if I can sit at this angle and can see the ball now what's crazy is it's cranked to 11. oh shoot sorry it's too loud oh
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6:21
oh wait you can't even hear it can you hear it now you're waiting for something to happen or what oh the computer is a crank 211 yeah and actually you just reminded me to turn the audio on for the pinball machine so i'm gonna put this on and look like an idiot but i'm gonna play now i'm used to here's what's cool about this i'm used to just playing in 2d flat pancake and and being happy but i noticed my game has improved by playing in virtual reality for two reasons number one because i can actually look at the shots i'm gonna take like for real like you can really i'm gonna put this on and talk i'm not gonna be able to see you for a second and i don't know what this looks like to you
7:28
how crazy cool is that no no when you put that on the only thing that changes is that it's an idiot wearing vr the vr does not make it I love you. I love you, dude. All right.
7:57
All right. I can play like this if I want. Can you see the dancer girl All right I going to launch Let try something Let play something Forgive me if it I try not to move my head so much
8:16
I can hit that ramp now, because I can see. Oh! I lost it. There it is. Ah, that was a good shot. Guys, this is amazing.
9:03
Hit that ramp. Ramp targets qualified tube dancer. There's the tube dancer. move your head i want to see the whole experience uh joe menar what app is running the table and vr future pinball visual pinball something else So this is Visual Pinball. This is a port of Visual Pinball called VRVP. It's in SourceForge. It's in beta right now. Oh, maybe it's alpha. The guy who's working on it has been working on it for quite a while. so this is this is an actual visual pinball table i have not altered it in any way shape or form at all um virtual reality virtual pinball i have not altered the table at all in any way shape or form and i am able to play it in vr and here's the other thing what's amazing to me is that there's almost zero flipper lag and i think i know why because in vr you can't have lag otherwise you get sick so they managed to get the display drivers and all that you know the chain between when you do something and when it shows up on the screen is less than 20 milliseconds um which is a great thing for virtual pinball because i don't notice any flipper lag anymore it's like gone when i'm playing on my pancake screen it's there very cool then with my cab i don't know if i could run vr but it would be great um i it really just depends on your graphics card that's all this is running a 980 ti not a ti a gtx 980 um notice how the Notice how the room is black. It's just a dark room.
11:43
Like I said, this is just virtual pinball. Visual pinball. An author created this table, but everything is in 3D. So I'm running a GTX 980. And it runs fine for most tables. There obviously needs to be some more optimization in the VRVP. And I could obviously get faster and better with a faster thing. Can't wait to see the Harry Potter. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. That's what I'm waiting for. I am playing the shit out of this when it's Harry Potter when Harry Potter's ready it's going in here and I'm playing it on this and I can't wait to see that Harry Potter table I'm not going to play too much like this but I can show you another table I'm going to try to show you another table alright and let's, I have a couple tables. Unfortunately, the tables are all dark. So this, like I said, VRVP, it's still a work in progress. Joman, Joman, Jo, sorry.
13:07
Jodinar. Is that right? Jodinar? It really depends on the graphics card you have in your machine.
13:18
And whether, obviously, you have either an Oculus Rift or an HTC Vive. I just took a chance and I installed SteamVR on this machine and it worked. And so I'm able to do this. Let me bring up, I think it was, what was the other table that I had? I'll show you guys one more table. file open. What was I playing with?
13:51
Whitewater. Oh, no, Congo. I think it was Congo. Let's do Whitewater. Whitewater or Congo. Which one do you guys want to see?
14:03
And I'm also working on how to show this more. I'm also working on both. Alright, we'll start with Whitewater. I'm working on how to do a stream with this setup so it's not a small screen up in the corner that you can't see too much of I want to I want I'm probably gonna change my my screen layout so that it's much bigger and it shows a lot of the table let's see if whitewater works I mean it should work I tried it before I started the stream so I'm playing a lot better too like my scores have gone up just because I can look around I can now look around I can see see stuff when you do that maybe get in a second-person cam so they can read off the comments who's yeah maybe get a second person so they can read off the comments whoever's playing yeah that could be my son or something like that I'm really trying to I'm trying to figure out how to do this. I have plenty of time to figure it out. Because this program is not done. It's still in beta. So here's Whitewater.
15:15
It's amazing. It's not showing me my score. But that's okay. You can see my score. So I can actually see. There's the Lost Mine.
15:27
There's my river. This is my windlet. My spotted letters. One thing about the visual pinball version of this, the 2D pancake version, I can't tell what these boulder awards are because some of the boulders are in the way. But now I can, whoops, if I don't obscure my camera, I can just see in there, you know.
16:00
And look at that guy, he looks great. Let's plunge the ball. come on come on there we go see if we can get it going Oh
16:24
It's so cool to be able to do that. Did you guys see that drop catch? Holy smokes. all right pretty crazy huh this is all true you can see I'm not making this up no sound That's weird.
17:05
Huh. I'm going to try one more table. Let's try one more table then. Let's do... Congo. I was playing Twilight Zone last night with this. It's so cool. There's a lot that he has to work on for this code to work, for everything to be perfect.
17:40
Oh, Warlock. I didn't see you. Sorry, Warlock. I'm such a bad person. How many times you this the real table? How many times you this the real table?
17:56
He wants to midnight again? I missed you Warlock. Missed you man. I've been away for a little while.
18:11
Let's see. Can you hear it? No. Oh, that's a drag. While it's playing, I think it's super low. I really need to set up a virtual table like what you have. Hippos!
18:39
This is crazy. This is... I think the volume is too low. Let me see if I can increase the volume. For that, I need one of these. I need one of these vibe wands Oh that's cool I never What the Huh I just saw a feature I never saw before
19:15
That uh That circle that you see Is my um Is my chaperone bound Alright, let me try and do, I'll do one ball. You can see Kongo down there. Oh look at the ball, it's white! Why is the ball white? Yeah there's another, there's another uh, issue with the beta. Well at least you can see the ball. It's like POWER BALL! I'm using the power ball on Kongo. How about that? That's pretty cool. up there all right I wish I can get it down to the gorilla so you guys can see that let's go there let's go there yeah let's go there yes there diamonds Dude, that was the best I ever did.
20:27
There's Kongo down there again. Hit that skill shot from here. Oops. No. Oh, shoot. That was great. And what's cool about this, guys, is that I can nudge.
20:46
See that? I can feel the flippers The flippers are clicking and clacking I'm getting full feedback After you start playing you forget You literally forget you're not playing a real machine You're playing a real machine in some weird world I gotta hit the map now. Map is lit. Kickback! Kickback combo! Oh which multiball is this? Wow. Nice. Oh look! Get the co- I got the ball trapped!
21:49
Ah, that's the best situation you want. Actually, I don't think you can do this in a tournament. I don't- you can't do that in a tournament, right guys? That's illegal.
22:10
Isn't that illegal in a tournament? Oh, that is awesome. Playing a real machine in the cold, dark vacuum of space.
22:21
So what does your wife leave? So what time does your wife leave after she finds out you bought this? I've had this vibe since it came out. I had the agency vibe since it came out. And you know what? It sat in the case forever. I played it I played it for a while and then you know this here this is a pain in the ass honestly and finding the right place the right room that set the lighthouses up and all this other junk it's just a pain in the butt now I will show you something that's not a pain in the butt Where is it?
23:07
That's this guy right here. That's good. Yeah, she is a keeper. Trust me, she's a keeper. That's this guy right here. This is an Oculus Quest. If you want to get into VR, I know this is not a VR channel, but I'm doing VR pinball just for a minute. You want to get into VR, guys? $3.99, get the 64 gig version. you're set this is an amazing hmd this is an amazing hmd no computer needed no nothing all you need is a all you need is a phone to set up your account and then this is free to go this is an amazing thing because it's powered by a pc obviously it's going to have better you know visuals and um uh i can do stuff like this with it but I'm not getting any kick. This is not sponsored by Oculus at all. This is a game-changing device right here. Hands down.
24:10
But I just wanted to do this briefly. All right, Brennan. Take it easy, bro. Thanks for showing up. I just wanted to do this briefly just to show the work that been done so far in VPVR and how amazing it is Every single table that Let me see if I can get Twilight Zone to work.
24:35
Let's take a look at Twilight Zone real quick and that'll be it. Most of the tables that I tried are fully playable just like they are in Visual Pinball.
24:46
Amazing. So much fun. There are still issues with like the ambient colors in the room and the ball being the same color. The ball is like black for some reason. It's hard to see the ball.
25:02
Well, hello, fine sir. Who's that? Hope for slaps one. Hello. Hello to you also. Here we go. this is Twilight Zone. How's that look?
25:23
Yep. Oops. See, if I block the lighthouses, they're not in the best place. I just started playing with this.
25:36
So they're not in the best place. And like I said, the table's very dark. I'm going to try and play I'll play one ball This looks amazing in here Holy smokes Always full plunge In Twilight Zone There's no point in doing that skill shot Oh Okay I'll do one more ball How about that Full plunge
26:39
Oh come on Hit that ramp For goodness sake. I would never play real pinball like this. Like looking at the table like so... Like a weirdo.
27:02
Ah. Got it. Ah, give me that piano. And also, it might be stuttering in your view, but it's smooth as silk here. There's a piano. skill.
27:43
Oops. I just bumped the... I bumped something. I bumped my microphone. Who's saying stuff? Man, I get vertigo from this.
27:58
No, it's actually... I guess you would, maybe. What am I doing to you guys? Oh yeah, I'm doing this kind of thing. Uh, one play 50 cents Where?
28:14
Where's our 50 cent Twilight Zone? Show me Ooh, light extra ball Let's find Tina. Let's find Talking Tina.
28:45
I was able to hit that camera award because I could look down and see where the ball was coming. Does that collect bonus? That's collect bonus.
29:00
Got it. Here's your extra ball. touching the door. Drain, drain. Everybody out of the pool. Oh, well.
29:43
I gotta restart. Okay, here we go, here we go, here we go. Trap up. Ah! I had my chance. I blew it. Gosh, darn it!
30:19
Alright. I think that's gonna do it. I'm gonna let it drain. Doot! can we see down the drain yeah we can so what's crazy is that I'm hovering the HMD over my actual v-pin and it's showing me a v-pin it's showing me a pinball machine all right so guys i think that's it for now it's very difficult to show this um i'll figure out a way a better way to show it so that's bigger and then maybe when the the alpha of this turns into a beta there'll be more stuff to see but anyway cool thanks for watching and I'll see you next time I'm probably going to do some Gilligan's Island on my next stream Gilligan's Island right here that crappy game later
31:37
Wolfman, good to see you again, bro I'll be back, I'll be streaming more Don't worry Thank you.