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Sunday Livestream audio 6/24/2025

Don's Pinball Podcast (regular feed)·podcast_episode·1h 36m·analyzed·Aug 25, 2025
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TL;DR

Don troubleshoots Star Trek TNG road game and discusses pinball restoration, market trends, and custom projects.

Summary

Don's Sunday livestream from the road in Ohio covers his traveling road game setup with Star Trek: The Next Generation (a Williams machine requiring extensive troubleshooting), discussions about pinball machine transport and restoration tools, and wide-ranging tangential conversations spanning pinball market dynamics, theme licensing speculation, custom cabinet modifications, theme park rides, and pinball Olympics experiences.

Key Claims

  • Star Trek: The Next Generation and Twilight Zone are reportedly the two most temperamental games of the Williams series to work on

    medium confidence · Don states this based on people who know the machines; appears to be community knowledge rather than firsthand verification

  • Jaws is Stern's greatest game considering theme integration, modes, and overall design

    medium confidence · Don's personal opinion stated as near-fact, acknowledging Godzilla and King Kong are good but Jaws superior

  • Pinball Brothers games are designed in Sweden but manufactured by Euro Pinball Corp (Pedretti Gaming) in Milan, Italy

    high confidence · Don clarifies this directly as a correction to community confusion about manufacturing

  • Only 150 Multicades remain available, suggesting poor sales

    low confidence · Don speculates this based on low inventory announcement, not confirmed by manufacturer

  • The Star Wars Home Edition playfield is full-size and would fit in a standard cabinet

    medium confidence · Don states this as fact but acknowledges uncertainty ('I think') and suggests calling George Gomez to verify

  • Heavy Metal pinball machines are extremely limited, with only about 100 existing

    low confidence · Don states 'I think only a hundred of them exist' with low certainty

  • Multimorphic's The Portal costs $6,000 for the topper and full game system

    high confidence · Don cites this price point directly from product information

  • Star Wars Home Edition sells for $8,000 at Costco

    high confidence · Don references the Costco website pricing directly

Notable Quotes

  • “Jaws is arguably Stern's greatest game as far as I'm concerned... King Kong ain't got a 1980s I'm-gonna-kill-shark-with-3D-glasses-on-my-face mode”

    Don @ early segment — Don's strong opinion on Stern's game hierarchy and his reasoning for favoring Jaws's theme integration

  • “If I can learn this, I'm gonna be like Williams tech man, right? What am I going to fear once I can figure this out?”

    Don @ mid-segment — Expresses his motivation for learning to repair temperamental Williams machines by mastering Star Trek TNG

  • “The community is why this inclusive game works. If it was just me, I'd be sitting here with a game and like an old electrical manual that I couldn't read”

    Don @ mid-segment — Highlights the collaborative nature of the pinball community for technical troubleshooting and restoration

  • “Can I just want something? Some guys from Denmark brought a homebrew of Despicable Me to UK Pinfest this weekend. It shot surprisingly well.”

    Don @ later segment — References upcoming homebrew demo and expresses desire for Minions theme pinball

  • “I want a Supreme so bad. Not because it's a great game, not because financially it makes good sense. I just want it.”

    Don @ later segment — Shows collector mentality beyond rational purchasing, driven by nostalgia and desire rather than practical value

  • “There's a gap between, it can't cost any more than that because if they were asking $2,000 for this thing and made it more robust, you'd look at a Star Wars Home Edition and be like, well, I'm just going to get that instead”

    Don @ later segment — Articulates pricing pressure and market positioning challenges for mid-tier pinball products

  • “Star Wars is like I'm in space and I'm just having a space battle... Make a Star Wars machine that takes me through the scenes from the movie in a more classical way”

    Don @ closing segment — Describes why multiple Star Wars pinball machines could coexist thematically without redundancy

Entities

DonpersonJeffpersonSteve RitchiepersonGreg FrerespersonRoger SharpepersonMichael BarnardpersonBradpersonGenghisperson

Signals

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Don spent a full day diagnosing Star Trek TNG boot failure and coil firing issues, requiring ribbon cable reseating and detailed electrical troubleshooting

    high · Detailed account of diagnostic process: reseating connections, identifying ribbon cable issue, discovering coil firing limitation to flippers only

  • ?

    operational_signal: Don developing creative solutions for solo transport of full-size pinball machines using pallets, curb positioning, and equipment to facilitate loading into truck

    high · Described pallet and dolly strategy to elevate game height for easier lifting and truck placement

  • ?

    product_concern: Discussion of Pinball Brothers games having design quality issues due to manufacturing by Euro Pinball Corp; concerns about available inventory and sales velocity of Multicade

    medium · Don notes 'Pinball Brothers games are made in Italy... if parts have design issues, they will just get made that way' and speculates on low Multicade sales

  • ?

    community_signal: Strong emphasis on pinball community providing technical support and knowledge transfer for complex machine repairs

    high · Don credits Brad, Genghis, Jeff at Mad Pinball, and The Pinball Studio as essential to resolving Star Trek TNG issues

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Don articulates design philosophy emphasizing theme integration as key differentiator (Jaws vs. King Kong), arguing modes and visual elements should reinforce IP

    high · 'Jaws has that theme integration... King Kong ain't got a 1980s I'm-gonna-kill-shark mode' and discussion of Star Wars machines as non-redundant if thematically differentiated

Transcript

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0:00
Welcome everybody. Hey, it's Sunday. Hey, it's Sunday and we're here. Microphone check. Make sure audio is still good. It looks great on my end from here on the road. Everybody's already in chat, man. We start the five-minute buffer. I think I have time to like run out to the car or something, but like there's no way. Everybody's already here. Please tell me you guys can hear me and then we'll get into it. I've been burnt before with this. All right. We good? Give me thumbs up. Give me some cheese. Give me some grease. Give me some Silver Pinballs. Yes, dude. Yes. All right. Let's get into it. Look at this behind me. I got my road game. We're out here on the road, traveling from work, currently, from the great state of the Midwest, Ohio, the other, other Keystone State. And I figure, perfect, loud and clear. I love it. So my road game for this trip is Star Trek The Next Generation. Not what I left the house with. I left the house with a wipeout and I came back with a stunner, a stunner courtesy of Jeff at MadPinball.com. Their logo is right down here. Get yourself a game. Use the WAP code. Get yourself some shirts. We got new WAP shirts coming out by the way. I got the logos coming in. The shirts are in. If you like 8-bit nostalgia and arguably the greatest run and gun 8-bit Fucking Contra, the origin ofixí Pepsi. We took a riff on that and did a WAP logo and it's blown me away. Michael Barnard did an awesome job. I hired him. He's an artist. He's worked with Stern. You know him from such games such as Rush, right? He did all the versions of Rush. He did all the versions of Jaws, Elwyn's arguably greatest game as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely. So I was concerned. I'm here for four days. Speaker 4
2:29
This is the fourth road game I've had. The first road game was Big Lebowski, which I set up solo. Holy crap, what a heavy game. And then I've had a Munsters Premium, I've had a Tales from the Crypt, and now Star Trek TNG, the Super Pin, and the back glass is autographed by Steve Ritchie and Greg Ferris who did the art. Super cool, man. Roger Sharpe signed it too, so shout out to that. Jeff at Mad didn't even tell me that. Tell me that. Broken pinballmachine sucks. Jaws number one, Elwyn. I mean, can we just put that to bed? Godzilla's great. Kong shoots great, but when you really consider everything that's in there, the theme integration, the modes? Kong ain't got no 1980s I'm-gonna-kill-shark-with-3D-glasses-on-my-face mode, right? Brad's got tails and it's going good. That's fantastic. So, this game, right? Jeff had played it and it was working fine so they boxed it up, got it out to me, I set it up, turned it on, it's getting power but the game doesn't boot and I'm like, what the hell? So I go through, it took me a whole day, we got it working. I reseated every connection, that wasn't it. There was a ribbon cable that wasn't quite attached so I put that in, that allowed the game to boot but the only coils that were firing were the flippers, right? None of the VUX, none of the other diverters, none of that was working. So I knew that reservatory
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Evil Deadgame
The Portalgame
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Predatorgame
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  • ?

    licensing_signal: Discussion of multiple Star Wars pinball machines not being redundant if thematically distinct; Simpsons licensing barriers preventing remakes despite community demand

    medium · Don speculates licensing issues prevent Simpsons Pinball Party remake and Treehouse of Horror game despite interest

  • $

    market_signal: Analysis of pricing pressures across product tiers (Star Wars Home Edition $8K vs. mid-tier Multicade at $6K+ vs. Escalera lift tables at $3,200+), suggesting market resistance to premium pricing

    medium · Don discusses pricing conflicts and suggests lower-cost tabletop pinball option ($2K or less) could capture market segment

  • ?

    event_signal: UK Pin Fest occurred recently (weekend before 6/24/2025 stream); Evil Dead noted as game of the weekend; Dune also available for play

    high · DJR Pinball reports Evil Dead as game of the weekend; Don mentions playing Dune at the event

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Strong community rumor of upcoming new Star Wars pinball machine from Stern; Don describes rumors as credible based on widespread community discussion

    medium · Don states 'if the rumor's true, which seems like it is because that's all people are saying'

  • ?

    product_launch: Don announces new WAP logo merchandise (8-bit Contra-inspired) designed by Michael Barnard is in production, with logos received and shirts in stock

    high · Direct statement: 'We took a riff on that and did a WAP logo... The shirts are in.'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Homebrew Despicable Me pinball by Pinball Amigo from Denmark demonstrated at UK Pin Fest with positive shooting feedback

    high · DJR Pinball reports 'Some guys from Denmark, the Pinball Amigo guys, brought a homebrew of Despicable Me to UK Pinfest... It shot surprisingly well'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community sentiment appears shifting away from Multicade as limited inventory (150 units) and unclear value proposition create confusion and hesitation

    medium · Don notes confusion about what customers actually want from Multicade, low inventory announcement, and preference for differentiated products like YunSquid's custom cabinet

    • 4:27
    which is a I'm going to go throw in someone's house and expect it to just work all month. I think I'm going to bring this home and like get it working perfectly. It ain't going to breathe on it. I'm just going to play it. It's like that's it. Oh my goodness. But I'll tell you what this reportedly from people that know this is one of the most temperamental games of the Bally Williams series like to work on this and Twilight Zone. So if I can learn this, I'm gonna be like Bally Williams tech man, right? What am I going to fear once I can figure this out?
    5:30
    Shane, thank you, sir. Rocking the old style. I got the Dawn Spinball Podcast hats in, by the way. They're in the car. I'm going to order another set.
    5:38
    Shane with somebody. Yeah, so this is how I figured out that like Chicago was a thing. You go around with this old style hat, even in Florida, and any kind of Chicago people just like become friends with you right away.
    5:49
    So I love this as a theme. I think this absolutely would work as a not necessarily theme but like like revisit this theme make a modern pin a modern wide body pin TNG can you imagine yeah so apparently this and Twilight Zone are the two like big bastards to work on and like games of this era now like this was built in 1993 which was 20 30 years ago so you open up the back box and it smells like an old closet inside like It smells Like Old Wood, It Smells Like An Old Trailer, and I'm like, my God, full of dust, all the molex connectors are 30 years old, you know, these freaking things.
    6:31
    So, yeah, I want to learn, and so this is how I'm going to learn. And the gameplay is super fun, man. It's like, I guess one of the first times that there was actually, like, primitive modes in a game.
    6:43
    You know, Tales from the Crypt had modes, but they're really like, here's 30 seconds, hit some stuff. This one's kind of the same. Here's 30 seconds, hit all the cue shots, but, you know, keeps track of everything there, and then I'm assuming there's wizard modes and stuff. Sup, Drewski? Hey, Mon's here, how you doing? I got Star Trek working. So, I came up with a way, I gotta put this in the truck by myself in a couple of days. And so, lifting this thing, like deadlifting it and getting it into the truck will prove to be difficult, but I came up with a solution. Here's what I decided to do. Smells like old style, yeah, for sure. I'm going to park my truck up against a curb, right? So the game will be already about six inches higher than the level ground. I've got two pallets, so, and I got a dolly. So I'm going to take my dolly, I'm going to put the game up on two pallets on top of the curb and that should bring it up like a whole foot, I think, all together. And then I'll be able to lift it and tip it in a little easier. I can show you the Reaping Connectors. The community is why this game works. If it was just me, I'd be sitting here with a game and like an old electrical manual that I couldn't read and it'd be like, I'm going to be trying to figure out how to get this thing working. But because I got people like Brad, Genghis, Jeff at Mad, the Pinball Studio, I think I'll be fine, man. And how cool would it be to get this thing totally like everything is working 100%, redo the armor, put radcals on the damn thing. It's got some cabinet wear and dings because of course it does. Bondo those, sand them down. Dude, make this thing cherry? Bro. Andrew says to buy a lift table and he is absolutely damn right. Alright, so I am on a list for one of those escalera tilt tables. I know they're $3200 which is why I haven't gotten one so far. I got one, Harbor Freight has a new scissor lift table that's different from the one where you use the handle to jack. I just picked that up and at home that makes it super easy and it was like $240. So so check that out if you haven't seen it. It needs to have casters on all four I'm on a list with Flippin' Out because he seems to be the only Escalera dealer. Is Simpsons Pinball Party remake ever coming out? I wish it would. It's a fun game. I would love, I would buy this as a remake. If CGC did it. If Pedretti did it, I don't think I would. Because I don't want Predator Targets in my Star Trek. I think, I mean it's just licensing, right? But then again it is just the Simpsons. And I would think that if it was easily possible to remake Simpsons Pinball Party, it would be easily possible to make Simpsons Treehouse of Horror frickin' machine. Because every IndieGames I'm a little bit of a Simpsons 2.0 kid that is treehouse of horror. I would get that one. I would get that one. But no, I think modern times require modern solutions, a wide body pin, full of fun mechanisms, treehouse of horror, perfect spooky theme. And these guys are stupid. I know they've thought of this probably 10 years ago and there's got to be some licensing hiccup of why you can't do that.
    10:34
    One thing I wish I had was larger wheels. It's great for indoor use, not so much outside with the standard wheels. So, are you talking about escalera, the stair climbing dolly or the escalera tilt table? Or are you talking about both? I've got a pin crawler which is half the price of an escalera and they're even cheaper now on Amazon. The Chinese knockoffs are out there. And I like its tank treads for going up and down stairs. But it doesn't help me set up a game and my God, my back is going to give out at some point if I keep this up. So the tilt table though functions as a dolly and then I would chiefly use it for setting games up. The tilt table, okay. So like yeah, I don't know if I would use it. The tilt table wouldn't be my perfect, my first choice for like taking a game from the loading dock into the house. But when it comes to, okay, the legs are on the game, it's unboxed, that's when I want the tilt table. So I can tilt it, stand it up. John Tomberlin's here. You're not late, buddy. We're just getting started. I want to buy all your Star Trek The Next Generation mods when you make them. I got some ideas, man. Chiefly, the double scoop or double Vuck ejection thing on the left to the wire forms, that definitely needs to have a Borg cube on it. Like definitely. Perfect. Yeah, I got to get a lift table. I was hoping that by now we'd see Chinese knockoffs for a half price, but I just haven't seen them. They're backordered through flipping out. I got my name on a list. Soen's you know, like, as some would expect. Yeah, you're going to have to finish so, you could block it with like, one or two and start a new one before days or every other thing If you
    12:18
    At gemaakt or you're watching the strip of you of street rock does it stand then you can clip whatever you click anything of that with üz is one is the 5020???? Have a good onion. 2 long caregiver 4020?? I use a stair crawler for outdoor use. It has large wheels. Zach shows using the two together, but I find that difficult. Yeah, that seems, I don't know why you would do both at the same time. I'm glad that they can mate together, but the escalera looks fine. I do think that the pin crawler, I like that design because of the tank treads, and I seem like I have more purchase on the steps. I'm just worried about the escalera, like if it's carpeted steps, like what if it, what if it like, like slinkies and each step it moves out like a millimeter and then it's like, oh, it's like a I think they're both fine. I was happy to pick up a pin crawler at Expo for $1,400, I think, and now there's versions even cheaper online on Amazon. Now, longevity-wise, I don't know. I think I need a new battery because it doesn't hold as much of a charge. It feels like it gets weaker. Whoa, hey, DJR Pinball just got back from the UK Pin Fest. He's saying the game of the show is Evil Dead. The I don't want the rest of the cabinet. It's way too heavy and I don't know how to work on it. And I would love to just have a standalone game of Portal. And it's funny because there was just an interview with two guys at Multimorphic talking about their machine and the comments they made were everybody comes up to us and they ask us, can we just get this as a standalone table? And they're like, no, but we've already done some things like, you know, moved more of the mechanisms and ramps down closer to flippers. Basically they said that what's been successful for them is every time they make their machine more like a traditional machine, people seem to like it more. And then they keep asking them like how about a standalone? And my idea was, you know, keep your multimorphic 26-game system, but also make an arcade version for somebody that just wants to route a $6500 portal in their arcade and not have to mess with scoops and servos and a ball trough with 17 balls in it. Um, and just make it like just a standard cabinet, bring the price down, and let me, let me put it in arcade for a year, earn some money, and then somebody could sell it to you. It's like, that's what I wanted. And of course they have plenty of multi-morphic P3 customers, and so that's not something they want to consider. Which sucks, because I would totally get one. Portal's fun. Portal's fun. They need to take a page out of Chris Turner's playbook list of the community. Unless they don't need to. Unless they are so overrun with orders and customers, which they must be, We're in August and supposed to ship by the end of August?
    16:01
    Right, so the the benefits of Multimorphic were that there was a lot of variety and that the modules would be cheaper and then they come out with Portal which is like $6,000 for the topper and the full game Which is like, what are we doing? Dune was good, the little that I did play. Alright, good to hear it. I had a few cheap drains and there were people queuing so I couldn't be bothered to queue again. That's always a problem on a new game. And how many were there? Were there ten dunes to play or four or was there one? Pinball Brother games are made in Italy and they're designed by Pinball Brothers. So if parts and components have design issues, they will just get made that way.
    16:42
    Okay. I must be having a stroke. That's confusing to me. What do y'all want to talk about? Discussion, we keep talking about Pinball Brothers and they can't sell Predator. Most people are concerned about quality of product but PinballBrothers isn't actually making their games. PinballBrothers games are made by Euro Pinball Corp in Milan, Italy which I think is like Pedretti's shop and they've kind of partnered with them. So PinballBrothers I see as a design studio in Sweden and then I see Euro Pinball Corp as a white label manufacturer. I've got a Harry Potter CE coming tomorrow. Brother, I've been there. I don't know how I managed to get into a Harry PotterCE and then to get right back out again like I just, like I'm Homer Simpson noping into the hedge. It was just a situation of like right place, right time. I haven't gotten my Multicade yet, sir, but I mean, I'm intrigued, but it seems like the more I learn about Multicades, the more confused I am on exactly what I want. This is so weird that they announced like there's only 150 left. It must have been selling like absolute dog vomit and they're just trying to move on. Or, you know, maybe Pedretti wants to put one of their games in production. And so they're like, listen, you've got this window to make some Predators. Subtitles by the Amara.org community
    18:41
    ... Speaking, and looking up rope- expecting yep,olinando Pratera Melite, Annamente2013415, and thinking a lot about timeinä, kannstantras Owarsa, Kryskiv size then gerewćy for et organizational decision to be a champion goes on fiš objects or helps issues I'm saying, you know, I just gotta wait until TPF when I can play it and then I'll be all the way in. And that's what happened. So for Predator, I'm sure there's people just like that. Like, I really want this game, but I mean, I know someone that had a problem with ABBA or I played a queen at a show and it wasn't playing fine. I just want to play it first and then I'll purchase. And so if these people had access to the game and could play it, I think they would get their sales, at least a jump of them then. Then they could do the FOMO for like last push. Hello Don, I'm the person that sent you the email on Star Wars themed Pinball Month. Oh dude! Gee money. I want him to make me a game. This guy built himself his own standalone cabinet, ostensibly to play Star Wars Virtual Pins on. And he's got like, what is that, is it a 75 inch screen? He's got it rotated, it rotates vertical or horizontal. The whole thing looks like, it looks like that Monopoly dice rolling game when you go in the FECs with the two screens right there and you roll the Monopoly dice. http://www.youtube.com or twitter.com .2016 sitcomb Mate YunSquid is cool and has $700- 270k I'm kicking myself for not buying a demo ED butter with topper for 12k at TPF. Yeah, brother. Oh, didn't I tell you? It's 55 inch screen 4k. Damn, it looks nice, man. I want that like that commands a presence. You know, I don't want to buy one of these $6,000 multicade that look like just everybody else's Multicade. I want I want that one. And I love the functionality that you can rotate that screen vertically. Because what if you have like a vertical maim shooter? I'm going to have my Star Wars Premium from Stern, I'm going to have the new Star Wars from Stern, probably also a premium, and then I'm probably going to buy the Star Wars Home Edition and I'll have a whole Star Wars corner. So think about this, I had a thought. Star Wars Home Edition, the one that's at Costco right now, the Home Edition Plus. ross Retainer,
    22:35
    I take all the components and everything out of that cabinet, toss the cabinet, I go buy a full-size cabinet or build a full-size cabinet, drop that game in a full-size cabinet and then just move all the components over, put better speakers in there, a bigger screen, redo a translite and make myself my own custom Star Wars home edition but in a full-size Stern cabinet. I'll pause for comments on that amazing idea.
    23:05
    I haven't played the Sega version of Star Wars that much. David. I'd like to get some more time on it.
    23:14
    G-Money. Come on, I'll give you a thousand bucks. Plus the cost of materials to build me one of those. I know it's a lot of work.
    23:27
    Wait, okay. Sterling, did you just say that before I said it? Or do you have the same idea? Subtitles by the Amara community The Star Wars Home Edition sells for 8K on the Costco website Holy garbage Holy garbage Yeah that was that occurred to me over like the last week I like you know what There's nothing stopping me from grabbing a cabinet, throwing it in there. Hell, I could call Barrels of Fun and grab one of their extra cabinets they have for homebrewers and throw a Star Wars Home Edition in that. Why not just buy the commercial Star Wars? Because I have the commercial Star Wars and I am a crazy person.
    24:36
    The playfield will fit in a regular size. It's a full-size playfield. That's like the playfield's full scale, the cabinet like height and everything is what's down.
    24:47
    Andrew, there's something to be said about crazy ideas that you can come up with a hundred reasons not to do it and you're forgetting about the lulls. You're forgetting about the LOLs. Like why would somebody put this much time and effort into something like this? So I can bring it to a show and people can walk by and say why did somebody put all that time and effort into doing that?
    25:12
    Is the playfield shorter? Is it? Is it? Alright, somebody get George Gomez on the phone. I'm going to ask him.
    25:21
    Okay, so realistically what I should do is go find a heavy metal before the prices start going up. I'm a trip just like this one, similar to this one. And I played a heavy metal and I was like, this is the home playfield, but like in a full-size cabinet with actual sound and everything and it was built properly and it was super fun. The only thing limiting from the Star Wars game is the code is pretty tight or not terribly great. Yeah, I'm fairly certain they said it's a I'm a fan of the I would love a heavy metal. I think only a hundred of them exist. Really what I want is a Supreme.
    26:08
    Which I even thought about putting in all the you want to talk about wasted time and effort. I thought about putting in all the work to make a homebrew Supreme just so I could have a Supreme that wasn't $80,000.
    26:19
    And I think I could just about do it. I would need to get a playfield made. But everything else I could do.
    26:28
    I wish, man. That's my wife's dream theme. Christmas vacation? Yeah, that would be amazing. Because I can. There you go. YOLO, right? But heavy metal would be a good compromise. On a side non-pinball note, how was Simon's Curse? All right, let me switch hats over to Dawn of the Magic for a moment. I've been to Cedar Point. It's about 20 minutes up the road from here. I've got a pass now. I've been there a couple times this season. I rode the new Dragster. I think it's battling Matterhorn for my top coaster like on the planet of the thousand plus coasters I've ridden. Top Thrill Dragster 2, amazing ride. Sirens Curse, their new coaster for this year is a tilt coaster. So you go up the lift hill, you go out on this cantilevered piece of track, the train locks in place, the track tips 90 degrees and then releases you and then it's a super smooth ride. So the ride's amazing. I was expecting it to be a credit like I'll ride it so I can say I wrote it I'm not sure if you're watching this live, but I wasn't expecting a whole lot. It's a phenomenal ride. We absolutely can reskin a Star Wars home to Supreme. We'd have to do a topside teardown, get the playfield reprinted, and then go from there. But it's totally doable. And then I think we can even get the code. Holy sh... Dude, are we building a Supreme? I want a Supreme so bad. Not because it's a great game, not because financially it makes good sense. I just want it. Can I just want something? Some guys from Denmark, the Pinball Amigo guys, brought a homebrew of Despicable Me to UK Pinfest this weekend. It shot surprisingly well. Oh dude, that's amazing. I think, yeah, Minions Pin. Yes, someone do a Minions Pin. Huge property from Universal um they make theme park rides on it they're making sequel after sequel after sequel it's a great property everybody loves bananas everybody wants the minion popcorn bucket so yeah make the game and like if you were looking for something to put in your arcade that would draw a general public over there oh my god it's minions let me play it I would definitely buy it uh it was Spike 1 so I don't know um and Supreme just had like a dot matrix display too Subtitles by the Amara.org community
    29:18
    I'm not opposed to going to Saudi. I just want to make sure it's like actually open. Jason never got to ride Top Thrill Dragster, the original version or the new one. It was either a three-hour line after it opened. Yep, and it was shut down. Yep, that makes sense.
    29:42
    Their new ride opened last year. It was open for one weekend, closed the rest of the season. So that sucked. Subtitles by the Amara.org community
    30:18
    The project right at the end, the finish line. And so, I think working with the same people that own the property now, it's completely different from what those OG people were. What's the name of your coaster Podcast? It's Dawn of the Magic. Because, like, it's a, you know, theme park, Disney-ish podcast.
    30:35
    I used to go on roller coaster vacations with the kids one to two weeks at a time, one park after another. Dude, same, Mark. Actually, I still do that. Met up with a Patreon member, Stefan, who routes games in the Cleveland metro area, Transcript by David Van Es, Knapp Arcade.com I'm a fan of the show. I think it's still a big part of what I do, but it's just like trying to find time to do it, man. How about a trip to New Jersey? Check out Six Flags Great Adventure. I got more lines than great adventure. Fright Frest New York City, Fall in the Mid-Atlantic is nice. Alan, correct. Kingda Ka, the former tallest coaster in the world gone from Great Adventure. Andrew's going ziplining in Costa Rica in December. Ah, dude. That's fun. I love me some ziplines. www.pigeonforgedennessee.com Look at all the fun stuff there is to do around Dollywood. Oh my God. Amazing. El Toro's fine. It's too Fidel. It's like too much what I want. El Toro as a roller coaster at Great Adventure in New Jersey. Intamin did that or did RMC? I think RMC retract. No, no, that was a ground up build, wasn't it? Damn it, I'm forgetting. Anyway, it's like King Kong, right? King Kong from Elwyn. Objectively, a great machine. Like top 10. I don't know if it's just that that's what we expect, so it's not like really wowing us. It's not like, oh my god, I gotta tell all my family I gotta get there and ride this thing. Or like, I gotta grab everybody and take them to play King Kong. It's like, oh yeah, King Kong objectively is a great game, but we kind of expect great games from Elwynn, so it's not like terribly impressive. It's super fun to play, but it doesn't have that theme integration that Jaws did and that nostalgia to pull on. My kids hurt their neck on El Toro? Easy to do. All of Pigeon Forge's amazing G-Money is right on the ball. Great pinball arcades in Gatlinburg as well. There are pinball arcades in Gatlinburg. Some of them are good. The one by their Space Needle. It's one of those places where it's a huge free-to-play arcade and they call it a museum. Because if you call your giant free-to-play arcade a museum, then games don't break and go down. They just become visual exhibits. So it's kind of like we have too many games that we can't take care of and we're going to call ourselves a museum so then when like 25% of our games are down, well it's a museum. So it's a museum exhibit right now. Andrew, I would love to play pinball on a cruise ship. I know Jeff at Mad Pinball, my homie, Jeff Sarajevo, he's been taking cruises and he's been finding pinball on cruise ships. Tim estoy pensando como funciona o sustain del cowardasse, so no 했어 que añadimos subtos elementosi nштax que tenemos que damos so que tienes que añadirme más underlines no solo una fucking condición mpfhh absolument estoy pensando como funciona eashh No, si, These watfapx yn' anthra nosotros... Well, Si, Como Infob lawyer М Alspaya Así que还有 pinball McCarthy Regular negotiation yeah, no entiendo Y mike alド Anyле Pins un seats at Expo It's an exos Very bully I don't know This is a self-paced tournament where you go around and you play all these tournament games. And each like you have to, you know, play them upside down, play them suspended, play them half hanging out of, you have to play Dirty Harry halfhanging out of somebody's old dryer. It's nuts. But in the garage, they have a giant full-sized turntable the size of a WWE wrestling ring. And they had a pinball machine on the turntable constantly spinning 360 degrees. An amazing feat of engineering. It was that sub-humans homebrew when I was there. And so you're playing this pinball machine while you're rotating 360 degrees in this garage with smoke machines and stuff, the most disorienting thing ever. But like you're focusing on the machine and the ball is doing some weird stuff, right? It's definitely playable but it's definitely weird because like, you know, one second the ball is kind of rolling down towards a flipper and then it kind of like slows down, stops and like changes direction, heads off somewhere else. Almost like there's like the weirdest magnet or something going on. It's like playing a game in the matrix. Like it's so strange. David Van Es, Knapp Arcade.
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    Icon and Star of the Seas both have pins. So, I've done Disney cruises, I haven't done Royal Caribbean, I really want to go on one of their giant ships and I want to try to play pinball at sea. I think that'd be fun. That Indiana Jones is so hard. Dude, if you're not sure about balance and stuff, it can be impossible, but I've got decades of skateboarding time put in into locking in that balance and so for me, I jumped on it and I'm like, dude, I think I can actually do well on this one. So, I don't know, I just kind of like I was like locked in. I was likejust playing pinball like it wasn't a thing. It's so fun.
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    There was one right next to it where you have to lay underneath the machine. They move the buttons down to the legs. So you're laying on your back supine with your head looking up at the coin box and there's a mirror over the game. So you're laying on the carpet underneath the game looking up with the buttons on the legs while you're watching in the mirror and trying to play pinball upside down. Holy crap. Andrew, thanks for hanging out, buddy. Do they have two or three pins of pinball olympics that have self-tilting playfields? Oh yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. So like if you haven't done pinball olympics, like everybody's got to do that at some point. I competed in the treadmill challenge too and I almost, I almost, it was, it was something, you know. Like you have to run basically full blast while you're playing pinball. That was wild. I held my pinball ρяться, Captio Prost , the person who is APPLYING from my platform and throw out my pinball showing off my pinball ��이시 promises to support K sein paintings, the company and my represents, I'm so glad I did it once. It's nuts. Not to mention like just the fact there's a party going on and there's like tacos and all kinds of food and drinks and stuff. Yeah, phenomenal experience, man. There's some cool people in this damn hobby.
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    So man, we're getting into the end of summer now. Fall is around the corner. We're about to get a game dropped on us in like probably two weeks. It's the 24th of August. We've got one week left of this month. Then we're in September. I'm going to be playing some Predator finally and I'm sure games will still be available. you can play it and if you like it just take it with you no use in shipping and the game will probably be working because whatever would have broken would have broken and been repaired on the show floor P Miniselekt He soldiers on której loin There's a gap between, it can't cost any more than that because if they were asking $2,000 for this thing and made it more robust, you'd look at a Star Wars Home Edition and be like, well, I'm just going to get that instead when it goes on discount for like $4,200, right? I think there is a market for all of us for a machine probably a little bit smaller than Alice in Wonderland with a full-size pinball and just like some flippers, a pop bumper or two, and some gameplay and then make this thing a tabletop device. Make this thing a self-enclosed little cabinet that you can put on your coffee table so while you're sitting there in the living room watching TV, you can actually sit there and play some pinball. I've heard a disaster果 I'll put a physical ball lock in there and then maybe do a multi ball. That might be too much. But I think you know like something something the size that it would easily be portable you could put on a coffee table but that had real mechanisms in it real sound and a real theme like a pinball manufacturer can make this as their counterpart to their game. Like what if you could rip out like the lower playfield from Evil Dead and just play it standalone on your table or I'm a fan of the little crab mech from Avatar and play it on your table. It's a little Happy Meal toy-sized thing. I picked up a cheap Zizzle many years ago. Yeah, I remember playing those and yeah, I don't know that I would get into one of them. If this next machine from Stern is Star Wars and has all the video assets from episodes 4, 5, and 6, it's an absolute buy from me, me as well, and everybody else and that's why they're doing it. I'm a fan of Star Wars and I remember playing Star Wars before I bought one and even after I purchased it. Whoa, it just got dark in here. Let me see if I can let some more light in. Ooh, that washed out everything. Star Trek back there, man. Look at that. Star Trek. I remember saying, like, this license is so big that you could just make another Star Wars machine and I don't think it would be, like, redundant, right? I don't think it would be redundant at all. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE I'm in a space battle. You know, John Wick feels like I'm playing a battle through a building where I'm fighting people. Star Wars is like I'm in space and I'm just having a space battle. The Millennium Falcon is right there, the asteroid video scene, like all that is just space. So, make a Star Wars machine that takes me through the scenes from the movie in more of a classical way like we would have seen and I think they could be great counterparts. I'm so happy they're doing it, if the rumor's true, which seems like it is because that's all people are saying. Alright, so if Mandalorian had a layout that wasn't butt awful, I have a couple of problems with Mandalorian. The fan layout's not even a problem, it's just there's not much they really did with it. And if you think of like the big draws of that game, like the big weenies, right, the big things that draw your attention in, Grogu back there taking up all that real estate, doing absolutely nothing, and then the tilting upper playfield taking up a lot of real estate, a lot of building material, and it's not really fun at all. The Back Third Of The Game That's The Prime Real Estate You Know That's Where The Evil Dead Cabin Is That's Where The Godzilla Building Is That's Where The Shark Comes Up Out Of The Playfield On Jaws That's Where The Foo Fighters Upper Playfield Is And You Don't Have Any Of That In Mandalorian You Have Plastic Ramps Or Wire Forms You've Got Fan Shots You've Got The great scenes, the part about that game I love, the themes and then also getting into the modes and watching like the ice spiders in the cave and some of the other modes that are in there. I like going into the shop and buying perks for the game. I like hitting the action button and setting everything on fire and then hitting shots to get more points. I love all of that. I love none of the big things they put in that game that you're supposed to love. They do nothing. I wasn't aware that John Papadiuk was a designer on the Zizzles. Oh, they had a great podcast at the Wedgehead about him, and I guess it's the only Papadiuk game I ever owned. Ha! That's funny. I also didn't know that. These guys at Wedgehead, like, are actually knowledgeable about pinball in a way that I am definitely not. I'm enthusiastic about pinball, and I'm learning more every day, but like, deep lore like that, um, yeah, they're the guys for it. What if it turns out to be an Andor Rogue One Star Wars pin? God, Rogue One was so disappointing. How To Win A www.wppr.com Pinball is a project that awakenname the bao to kinetic Kenneth, what's up my friend? You're in line for Great Bear at Hershey Park. Front row is the only row I'll ride GreatBear on because the view is incredible. So if I'm going to wait in that long line, I'm going to jump in and wait three more trains for the front row. I love how they do the front row on GreatBear at Hershey Park. It's a B&M inverted coaster, one of those ones where the coaster's hanging down beneath the track. And so, like, super fun layout, lots of loops and things, really unique layout, maybe not the most exciting one. Already dankract Сертов 한�時는 해보� Premiere 영상 준비 intercept 어디 Linghart 죽은itos는 • • • ÖÖÖÖ I was there every week for years.
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    But that means that 4 p.m. people will probably be leaving. Grogu should have grabbed the ball in the back. I know. Or at least had a magnet in front of him where it would grab and then, you know, tabii illustrated by Canada Go off and I like the force would happen but it just feels like there something missing from Mandalorian and I don think it the rules and gameplay or modes or assets I think those are all fine I just think somewhere the design went sideways and maybe there were concepts I sure they had ideas that Grogu was going to be more interactive and do some things and it probably just wasn working and deadlines were coming up and they like that how we end up with a static Grogu Come on And then I don like the the WPPR sparkle and binkeStein, white vinyl, black maskerade, Sportion蛋 diez autismańskińskińskańskańskińskańskińskańskańskińskańskińskańskińskańskińskańskińinskińskańskińskińskańskińskińskańskińsc硫' doctrine Over at the Arcade on Detroit in Lakewood, Ohio, Cleveland Cleveland area. Hanging out with Matt. Thanks for everybody that came out to hang out with us. I was playing AvatarLE. I was having a great game on it. I was having a lot of fun. I still agree with Enzo. I think Avatar is underrated. Not criminally so like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but definitely underrated. And now that the price has come down, I think it's worthwhile going in on it. Rob Burke from the Pinball Expo is calling me right now. I'm going to have to call you back, sir, while we're on livestream. Otherwise, how fun would it be to have him join? I don't know how to do that on the road here. I have to call Rob Burke. I should just talk to him. Let's see what he says. Hey, Rob Burke, how you doing?
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    Hey, Rob. Would you just put your poppers in there for the competition? Sorry, one more time. Sorry, I'm doing a live stream right now, but go ahead. What size boots do you want that popper? I would take a double wide but single if that's all you got room for. I still need to go register for that. A 10x10 or a 10x20? Oh, yeah. We're doing layoffs, that's what I'm asking. Oh, can we do a 10x20? Do you have room for that? I'll fill it up. I'll make it exciting. What name would it be under? You can put it under my name, Don Garrison. Lisa Kiert,波 гар다라Europe Autobek I'm doing a topper contest at Expo. I'm going to have a 10 by 20 booth it sounds like and homebrew toppers. If you've made a homebrew topper or you know what, you've got like three months, throw one together, bring it down Thursday, hell, even bring it down Friday if you want. We're going to have toppers on public display. If you're at Pinball Expo, you're going to get a raffle ticket in your registration packet when you pick up your materials. Take that ticket over and check out all the homebrew toppers and put that ticket with your phone number on it in to vote. I'm going to randomly draw a person that voted and I'm going to give them a playfield. The Scubidoo or a Willy Wonka, I've got one of each to give away. So you have a great chance just by voting to win yourself a prize. It's going to be at Pinball Expo. It's going to be running the whole time the thing's going on. Judging will be Saturday. We'll tell you the votes Saturday afternoon, probably 2 o'clock. We'll announce winners. You're going to have to be present to win, okay, because I'm going to have a playfield. I don't want to ship the damn thing to you because it's like 60 bucks to ship these things. So I'll just Press play gardening in this question set an image comment box of the input WPPRannyChan дум essenthao is a baseball this is from the first month hit to 8쩯 this year the http://www.knapp.com.au I'll let them vote. I'll give them a different colored ticket.
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    And then we can see what the industry thinks their favorite topper was and then what the people's choice favorite topper is and everybody gets prizes. Right? Because more people are hearing about this. I got some awesome stuff to give away.
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    I'm going to announce it here that the Electric Playground who's making a King Kong topper has donated one of those that will be given away to the top topper competition prize winner. varied teams, The world's largestPARTFORM世界 em lugares has become part of the world's largest 효泰Cr�리엄 Park C watts twenty five hundredŚ It means United States is likelihood number of美 pic then rock nobody known so many Alright, let's catch up with comments. Used to come here a lot when I was a kid in Miss Falcon and Kenya Rapid Rides. Me too, me too sir. Magnet under Glogu, Grogu, I think he meant Grogu, but doesn't do anything, right? It's not like he grabs the magnet and like the ball levitates or something or like the ball shoots around that area or that there's projections mapped on the ball or something or like he shoots a laser from his eyes and the ball disappears and falls under the playfield like Metallica. You know, like anything interesting? God, Man. How about the ball that crawled up his body like a worm? Monsters Inc Pinball, how come there is no Disney excluding Star Wars? Because Disney's expensive and Disney doesn't return phone calls and the conspiracy minded person in me thinks that Stern has Disney locked up, right? We all know the CEO came from Disney Plus, probably a lot of connections. Stern apparently has a deal with Disney. I've heard this before and it seems to be true that they just have a Disney property license locked up every year.
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    So that's where you get a Marvel pin, a Star Wars pin, another Marvel pin, another Marvel pin, like that's what that deal is. So, you know, we got Avengers Infinity Quest, Deadpool, Venom, X-Men, Star Wars, what else is Disney? Mandalorian, right? There's been like a Disney property pin from Stern every year. Sid平 Parbell, Mar siege Leonardo Mc зак Phillips, 際-i PSWGO, www. recomptu richtigecoach.com
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    We are. Thanks for watching! I was leaning forward when it launched. Yeah, it's a hydraulic launch. It's probably the weakest of the three that were made or four. Accelerator, Kingda Ka, Top Thrill Dragster, Storm Runner at Hershey Park. Oh, Kananen, I guess, was the smallest one. That was at Liseberg in Sweden. I wrote it out there. It is now in near Des Moines, Iowa at Lost Island. So you can go ride the Swedish hydraulic launch coaster from Intamin, the smallest version of it, and it's now over there. Disney Theme Park Pinball. Yep, Monorail Wireform's taking different parts for the Firework Wizard Wizard mode. Yep, I would love an Epcot pin. I think Spaceship Earth right there in the middle, come over there. I don't think anybody else would like it as much as I would. World Showcase Orbit around the lagoon. Yeah, or just take like Disney rides and make a pin out of that. You know, Disney's been dipping in and making movies out of their rides, right? Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, Jungle Cruise. I think there was rumored to be other ones. I think there was a treatment for Tiki Room, right?
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    Jungle Cruise was a fun movie. Pirates of the Caribbean was unstoppable. And so if it worked in movies and it works in theme parks, it can work in pinball as well. Some of the greatest pinball machines came from movies that weren't even any good. So if Jungle Cruise is an awesome ride at Disney, Disneyland is the best version of it. If it's an awesome ride and made a good movie, it would make a great pin. The movie doesn't even have to be good to be a good pin. Look at Johnny Pneumonic, Last Action Hero, Dirty Harry, Toy Story 4, another great film, Lethal Weapon 3, right? Really cool. Judge Dredd, cool games, terrible films. Terminator, great film, great game. All the precedents pin. All right, Eric, you just killed that idea. All the president, how about Hall of Muppets? Can we get them? Would you guys, who else is into a Muppet pinball machine besides me? Am I the only one? I fucking love the Muppets. They're re-theming Rock and Rollercoaster at Disney's Hollywood Studios at Disney World. They're getting rid of Aerosmith, also a pin title, and they're bringing in the Muppets to theme Rock and Rollercoaster. This is a story about a guy named Scooter. Scooter, his uncle, bought G-Force Records or whatever, and so the electric mayhem is going to the concert and y'all are on for the ride. So how fun would a Muppet show pinball machine be? Just full of Muppets mayhem, silly gags, fun little mechanisms, weird modes, you know, the topper could be Stantler and Waldorf just criticizing you as you're playing. I don't have a Dune because Dune is brown and Timothée Chalamet, great actor, doesn't really bring me into pinball. I want to play with the newer code, but Muppets? Come on. I don't, they wouldn't, they'd have a problem keeping that game in stock. They'd, they'd have a problem because their pockets would be too stuffed with cash to walk. That's the problem that they would have if they did a frickin' Muppet Pin, Muppet Show Pin.
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    Animal, animal, dude. I was, so Disney just released a lot of the concept art for this new ride re-theme and it looks amazing. The pre-show has animatronic penguins in it, probably from their 3D Muppet Show. We'll be right back. So barrels of fun, you know, make your money on Dune, get your experience from building games and mechanisms and things, and then bring me a Muppet Show pinball machine. So I would do, I would do the Muppet Show. That was like the first big television program. It was done like a, like a variety show. So like it would fit for like pinball. It's like we're coming in. It's got a great theme song already. And it had scores of guest stars. And hopefully you could get some of them in there. Playinglaufland Knapp Arcade, thanks for slid, So pigs in space could be won. um, shoutout some other classic stuff from the Muppets show limits, you know. 112 신 mob 504, faliiinX2, 504, da응QVWLNį, I thynk Disney is finally gettin a crap Together the new beacon barrel tavern looks cool. yes it does. Subscribe 12лиish茶ization mois Can 꼭
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    I am laughing now and recall The you you do you like you like uh... tons of jokes of fozzie bear right and they're like they're all failing like the toppers criticizing him will burst around us will go back to that the act of mercy all of the all that stuff is right there it also does an edgy adult humor stuff says the best part of my pets is like there was that it was it was hippies making the stuff So like, obviously it appealed to families and children, but there was adult subtext there that went right over the kids' heads, but like the adults caught it. It's like, God, this is funny stuff, you know?
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    Yeah, I mean, this game writes itself. Barrels, come on. I told them that when Labyrinth came out. I'm like, dude, just be the Jim Henson Muppet frickin' pinball company. Do Muppet Treasure Island, Muppets from Space,
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    The Muppet Show, yes. Hey Subtitles by the Amara.org community STOP! The Fraggles Underground Playfield, perfect! Hey Gobo! Oh, hey Wimbley! Oh, dude, you could do like mystery awards with like Uncle Traveling Mac, where he travels off to a different area and then awards like a prize. So much you could do! So much you could do. I would love a Fraggle Lower Playfield, like the Fraggles live underneath the Muppet Show Theater. We got this thing going, man. I'm excited. Get David Van Es, I'm David Van Es on the phone. Mark you get that P3 talk the hell out of here. I don't want them taking all those great themes and ruining them with P3. Does Multimorphic not have the best themes in pinball? Portal, Weird Al, Princess Bride. Oh my god, where are these actual pinball machines? Where are the actual machines? Oh, I hate it. Terms, yes, I would put doozor mods in mine. I love the doozors. The gourds, right? Like the Fragglerock ogres. Now I want a Fragglerock pin. Barrels, make two pins. To answer Hilton from earlier, because he got Steamroller with Muppet content. Yeah, Star Trek is great. I got it working. I got it working. I think there's a couple of loose wires still for some of the stand-up targets. I can fix that when I get it home, but game is functional now. I replaced the fuses. It was two fuses and the power distribution Board and it was a ribbon cable that had come unplugged. So, not all too bad.
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    PuppetUp Improv from the Muppet Actors. I've seen some of that. That is fantastic. The two old guys of the upper playfield as bash toys. Either that or they're on the topper. But yeah, Stantler and Waldorf have to be up there. Let's go, you fool! Oh, he's got an extra ball! I guess we're stuck here longer! Like, I would love this game. I would just leave it on attract mode. Just let him talk to me. It was the best part of having Labyrinth was having the topper just every couple of minutes just start talking to me. Fucking great. So, you know, when I heard Dune was rumored, like in my head I'm thinking they gotta be doing Muppets next. And then it was Dune and I'm like, that's like the opposite of Muppets. Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    I like what they've done. I don't like playing a game one-handed. I didn't like it on Avatar. I don't like it any time. I want to have both flippers. I don't want to just feel like I have one and I got to switch back and forth. Very innovative mode. I've been able to complete it, but it's like, it's kind of a drag for me. And I haven't really been able to get my hands on like the new code. Let's ask Hilton though, like how's Dune doing for you? He's got, he's got one at IORK that he's operating. Have you had to put in an extra cash box because it fills up so quick? Hilton, let us know.
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    I can't wait to. So I've talked to David about like the vision for Dune where they want to get it to, and it's honestly pretty impressive. So I wanted to get there. Hopefully I'll get some time on Dune. Um, here pretty soon. Hopefully they're shipping them.
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    If anybody's got pin side open, are there any dunes for sale yet? What's it going for? Because that was the other thing. There was a price increase from Labyrinth to Dune and it's like, it's a theme I'm less passionate about and like the code was not there yet and the price was higher. So it was like, I just, you know, I'm not a, I'm not a early adopter here and I don't think they could blame me.
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    I do want to play it some more Guys fun All right so I glad I getting the Muppet Show out there I want to get it into more people heads that it should be made I'm so dark here. Mainly because the more that people ask for it, the more likely it is to happen. And I know they got themes lined up, but I haven't seen the Muppets as one of them, and I want it to be. So I'll put it out there.
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    Cool. No, so, alright, Jason's got a dune, you got it last week. Any word on the accessories? I wanna see the topper. Jason, did your dune come with the plastic topper? Cause I don't even know if I've seen that yet.
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    Okay, so I do like the fact that a pin is coming out close to when a movie is being released. Cause back in the day, all those movies, right? Jurassic Park, Godzilla, Lethal Weapon 3. Like they were all made around the time that the game came out like Terminator 2 Didn't that come out like when the movie did like as part of like the launch of it? I would love to see that take a risk on a film What's not released yet the film might come out and underperform and be totally terrible But that's where we got the best pinball machines from like these like kind of moderate loser themes
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    Alright, so that has a plastic topper now cool I'm a fan of the pinball. Cool. Dave is good to work with. I love it. I love it to be a great theme. Has to make the player laugh or smile. Yeah, like I want to be laughing my ass off playing pinball. I do that with Rick and Morty. What are some other funny games? Like the Elvira games with the innuendo? The resurfacing the parking lots outside. Elvira is funny. What else is funny? Labyrinth is funny. Rick and Morty is very funny. I feel like I want more funny pins than I want dramatic pins. Yeah, that's awesome. T2 got the script before the movie was released. I like that. I like that. So let's get back to that. Some major tentpole production, get a game in development to come out parallel with it, you know? Because we're talking about Back to the Future, the pinball machine coming out. It's like that movie's from the 80s, Jaws from the 80s, some of the other rumored games are 80s titles, which works on the nostalgia. But it would be fun to like, hey, this movie just came out and I got the game for it. And the movie sucks and the game is incredible. So eat it. Deadpool's funny. Correct. How did I miss that one?
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    Deadpool's great. I don't like the layout. Is that controversial? I wonder if the people that like Bond are also the people that really like Deadpool's layout. Alright, I see my stop labor prob ând fuck P it's wanted windy promptly info a Poker Page Nick Issey,
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    I'm going to go ahead and just learn it. Not like this. This was cool. So Deadpool is another game that like, well, it would be a game that I got home and then I played it a little bit at first and then just kind of quit going back to it probably. The only Berrios BBQ Challenge was for sale at Pinfest for 4,500 pounds. I heard it's playing better now. I think they did some code updates that help with the flipper mechanism power. But Berrios BBQ Challenge. Barrio Sales Challenge. Barrio buried the company. I mean, it's a pinball machine, so I do have fun playing it. It's got some novel things to it. I like the bashlock idea. I'm not convinced it's entirely brand new, but okay, I like the bashlocks. I don't like the spinners on the ramps. I think they kill the momentum too much. I think if the spinners were further down the ramp, but I like to rip a spinner in an orbit. That's the best place for it.
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    Subtitles by the Amara.org community The UnderwaterScene is not even interactive. I don't like how the scoop shootss the ball up the playfield. The extra wireform that the balls lock in while they like physical ball locks, it's weak. It's weak on John Wick too. I wish there was more to that. I think the ScoopEject wireform mod from Australia that puts the ball back in the wireform, that should have been on the premium. I think that would have been fun. If it was a diverter so the ball could shoot up but also I'm the pen of the line does nothing for me. It's not really fun. I'm looking at trade Deadpool now. I've had it a long enough to make room for something new. Yeah, I mean, like I wouldn't, I wouldn't hate either bond or Deadpool to rotate through the collection. But I, but you know, when it comes to paying the money for it, there's like 10 other games I'd rather have that I'm going to get instead.
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    Question In feeds The the honor égé of him drawn you so you so Doug I'm going to make 150 and no, no. I think it's a really good homebrew but I didn't feel like commercial quality yet. It was hard to get up the center ramp. We gave them a lot of feedback. Hopefully, they took that feedback and they're engineering everything to really just be an awesome shooting game but I still don't think it's, you know, I don't think it's any more than like a $5,800 game new. You can't take a homebrew and Like only on . And like buying all the equipment and everything? Like you need to be getting you know eight thousand dollars you game to even have any kind of margin. And I just don't think- i don't think all the the math is there for Ramps Road Trip.
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    The bond on the wand is underrated I guess... What do you think a Hot Wheels? I've had some fun games on Hot Wheels. I think it's a perfectly serviceable pinball machine. I don't think it's exciting in any way. The screen's too small. I don't like the animations. It doesn't really have any modes in it. It's, you know, as an arcadey game to play because everything else is taken. I think it's fine. I think, you know, if you are general public, you'll go up to it and play it not knowing any better. And it'll make some money for you. I think it's American Pinball's most successful game. I'm but it is not exciting there uh... it's about as exciting as a bowl of gravy yeah like like why would you buy hot wheels if you go by I'd rather buy Deadpool and Bond, God those games are like they have modes, they have code, they have humor uh... they have movie clips right like hot wheels is none of that and the the the random hot wheel car is zip tied to a stick that spins is stupid that's stupid so while it is fun to play you know burials barbecue challenges fun to play but it's not fun to spend real world money to own and you know in a lineup of any more than three games are not to go play hot wheels there's a pizza place in the dells that has a hot wheels uh... monsters premium or no monsters pro and uh... jurassic park pro and so like all go there and like why monica's playing one of the other games I'll go play Hot Wheels, but there's only three games there and there's not a lot of pinball in the Dells.
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    But other than that, like I'm not screaming to go play Hotwheels. If you put Hotwheels next to Valhalla and next to Oktoberfest, I think I would turn around and walk out of your pizza place.
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    Valhalla is a fun game, but you know. So, I put it like this. If the game was $2,000, which is basically free in pinball terms, would I drive an hour to go pick it up? And the answer is probably no. Hot Wheels needed a loop, 100% mark. Yeah, I mean, it needed ramps. That should have looked like Richie's No Fear, right? Transcript by David Van Es, Knapp Arcade.com For more un drops I'm going to list that on Pinside and try to get like $2,800 for Berrio's Barbecue Challenge.
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    There's no excitement. Again, it's like, it's supposed to be about barbecue and it's as exciting as mashed potatoes with nothing in it.
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    Not even mashed potatoes with gravy. Just like some mashed potatoes that they brought and like they forgot the gravy. Or like, you know, they brought you the breadsticks but never brought the ranch. Like that's what that game feels like. Like where's the ranch? I know, even Gator Dawn's in it. And I hate it. I don't like the animations. What's the point of the game? What are we doing? The animations of like, someone took MS Paint and made a barbecue and it's like rocketing off into the sky. It's so stupid. The
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    I don't have pictures of Cuphead. Because at the time, it was like, this is top secret, don't say nothing about it. This game's almost done and we can't wait to get it out. And I'm like, yes. And then after, it's been over a year. It's been over a year and it's dead. Chasing în rajtóths og ángí희,beryíруñu fine par, Movingman, Person, This podcast is only available on congregation exclusive news read. design Producer At Bone Guru, hateandgirl каждo See, TPR, this is true. Yeah, people in coasters can be jerks, man. Oh, you suck because you never got to go to Hard Rock Park. Hard Rock Park, it was actually kind of fun. It was in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. It operated for a year and then they lost the Hard Rock license and then they renamed it Freestyle Music Park and I think it existed for another year. Then it turned into an outlet mall and I don't know what it is now, but they had a Led Zeppelin roller coaster there and I don't know what happened to it. It was interesting. It was a good ride. The end. Thank you for watching. I hope you enjoyed this video. I'll see you in the next one. Bye. I never rode their like Caprio Star Flyer coaster or no. I don't know if it's that one. I either rode that or the one with the Ferris wheel lift mechanism. I don't think I got to ride that. I wasn't operating. But I rode the Moody Blues Dark Ride. I rode Led Zeppelin and I rode the Eagles Mine Train a couple of times. And then it became Freestyle Music Park and just like sucked because the theme was marginal at best to start with. So when I got to the Thank you for watching. I lived in West Virginia, like the next state over from South Carolina basically. Everybody from West Virginia, when they go to the beach, they don't go to Virginia Beach, they go to Myrtle Beach for reasons. And so I was living in the state that was going to travel there anyway and would have frequented this establishment and nobody in the state even knew about it. I did because I was into coasters and I'm telling people like, dude, Hard Rock Park. And they'd be like, we're going to Myrtle Beach, we're going to the beach. And I'd be like, oh, you're going to go to Hard Rock Park? And they're like, what are you talking about? We'll be right back. I was imp фильм coherent by the way I did those hoping the So, like, I, bill clinton And atそんな Pronda can cool a massive ad of christmas another a man we write to uninformed like and alerts It's Sé I don't know. So, is this arrogance or is it ignorance?
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    You know, I see this too with companies where, you know, they have everything figured out their way and they don't want to listen to feedback and they're just going to do it anyway and that's dangerous. You can't let your ego get in your own way.
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    You have to know when to, like, not blindly follow your ego. Set it aside, see what people are saying, you know, because they've got something you don't have as a producer and that's objectivity. This is a production of WPPR.com. November Formungian Colorbrief.com
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    Thank you for watching. Not a lot of people are going to buy it. So, you know, if you're making a game for yourself, do your homebrew of whatever you want, you know. That's fine. But if you're making a game for other people, make the game that they would want, you know. And when they give you feedback, listen to it, right? All right, next caller, you're on. Oh, this was fun. Did you guys have a good time? I'm glad I managed to make this work. I'm on the road here in the Ohio region for another two days and I'm heading home. I'll need to record some content probably. I need to get my expo booth bought for expo. Cover that once again. Top Topper contest. I'm hosting it. It's going to be at expo in the homebrew area. If you've created or crafted a topper for your game and you can bring it, you can enter it and you can walk out with prizes. http://www.youtube.com.twitter.com.twitter Knapp Arcade. I'm going to go to that ending bit now. Where's my slidey bar? There it is. I need a diner topper idea. Yeah. I mean, it could be as simple as a napkin dispenser and a tablecloth and a candle, CW Sógíéla, KPá AG должна, Jane Cical perfekt, Pinball Studio, thank you for moderating. I haven't seen the night rat thing show up again, so maybe that's good. I'll be home in a couple of days and then more mayhem and mystery to occur. Let's hit that outro. Thanks everybody.