Episode 996: "Kaneda's Reaction To X-Men"

Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)·podcast_episode·13m 18s·analyzed·Sep 5, 2024

Analysis

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TL;DR

Kaneda praises X-Men as Stern's first wow-worthy game since Godzilla, questions LE pricing value.

Summary

Kaneda delivers a highly enthusiastic reaction to Stern's X-Men pinball game, praising its creative design, innovative mechanics, art package, and theme integration as the first recent Stern release that justifies premium pricing. He discusses limited edition value propositions, production timing strategy, and competitive positioning against Jersey Jack's upcoming Avatar game, while critiquing Stern's designer roster and arguing that quality designers matter more than quantity.

Key Claims

X-Men is the first Stern game since current pricing levels where the game actually wows as much as the price justifies it
high confidence · Kaneda directly states this is the first game in three years at high price points that delivers equivalent 'wow' factor
X-Men has the best launch Stern has had since Godzilla
high confidence · Kaneda makes direct comparison and states this explicitly
James Bond, Jaws, Venom, and John Wick did not wow players despite premium pricing
medium confidence · Kaneda lists specific recent Stern releases as disappointing relative to price
Limited edition models are not providing sufficient additional value to justify $3,000+ price premium over Premium editions
high confidence · Kaneda repeatedly states difficulty justifying LE pricing and questions whether exclusivity still matters
Stern is capable of monopolizing the pinball industry when they execute well due to manufacturing scale and quality control
medium confidence · Kaneda argues Stern's scale advantage when they focus on quality designers

Notable Quotes

“This is the first Stern game. Since Stern's pricing has been this much where the game actually wows us as much as the price and they needed that. This is the best launch Stern has had since Godzilla and I think this game is going to be a home run for the company.”
Kaneda @ ~5:30 — Core thesis: X-Men justifies premium pricing unlike recent Stern releases
“I've been covering pinball for 10 years or more, and I've never seen a layout I love the colors. I love the Sentinel armor on the playfield.”
Kaneda @ ~2:45 — Demonstrates Kaneda's high praise relative to 10+ years of coverage experience
“I just don't see $3,000 more in value for the limited edition version of the game.”
Kaneda @ ~8:15 — Directly challenges LE pricing strategy despite overall game praise
“I think people would be happy if Stern Pinball was just Jack Danger and Keith Elwin releasing two awesome games a year one from each of them. And that all we would need, we don't need more.”
Kaneda @ ~14:20 — Critiques Stern's roster depth, suggests two great designers sufficient
“When Stern does this, they can monopolize this hobby and this industry so quickly.”
Kaneda @ ~11:30 — Comments on Stern's competitive advantage when execution is strong

Entities

Kanedaperson Jack Dangerperson George Gomezperson Keith Elwinperson Zombie Yetiperson Eric Meunierperson Steve Ritchieperson

Signals

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sentiment_shift: Kaneda signals major positive sentiment swing toward Stern following X-Men reveal after 3 years of underwhelming premium releases (James Bond, Jaws, Venom, John Wick)
high · Direct statement: 'This is the first Stern game...where the game actually wows us as much as the price' after listing disappointing recent releases
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market_signal: Kaneda signals concern that LE pricing premium ($3,000 over Premium) is no longer justified by product differentiation, suggesting potential shift in collector purchasing behavior
high · Multiple repeated statements: 'I just don't see $3,000 more in value', 'I don't feel like Limited Edition matter anymore', suggests pricing model needs restructuring
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competitive_signal: Kaneda identifies Jersey Jack's Avatar Limited Edition as potential threat to X-Men momentum due to timing proximity and superior LE differentiation strategy (exclusive topper)
high · Kaneda discusses Avatar LE release timing concerns, notes JJP's topper strategy as superior value proposition, expresses uncertainty about LE pricing advantage
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product_strategy: Kaneda recommends Stern add exclusive topper to X-Men LE (mirroring Jersey Jack strategy) to justify $3,000 premium, indicating industry best practice for LE value communication
high · Direct recommendation: 'Jersey Jack Pinball gives everyone who buys the CE an exclusive topper. I think they need to do that.'
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personnel_signal: Kaneda critiques Stern's designer depth, arguing only Jack Danger and Keith Elwin are consistently excellent, and suggesting 'old guard' (George Gomez, John Borg, Brian Eddy, Steve Ritchie) are repetitive or uninspired

Topics

X-Men game design quality and mechanicsprimaryPremium pinball pricing strategy and value justificationprimaryLimited edition pricing vs. premium edition value propositionprimaryStern Pinball designer roster and creative qualityprimaryCompetitive threat from Jersey Jack's Avatar Limited EditionsecondaryRecent Stern game launch reception (James Bond, Jaws, Venom, John Wick)secondaryProduction timing and market saturation concernssecondaryKaneda's Pinball Podcast channel strategy and Saturday Morning Spectacular launchmentioned

Sentiment

positive(0.88)— Kaneda is highly enthusiastic about X-Men itself and praises Jack Danger's execution. However, sentiment toward Stern as a company is mixed—he criticizes recent output quality, pricing strategy inconsistency, and designer roster depth. Overall framing is optimistic about X-Men's market performance and industry trajectory, but skeptical about LE value and Stern's broader operational decisions.

Transcript

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No, but in all seriousness, this game I think has reawoken people or reawakened people's love for pinball because it's creative, because it's unique. It's not cookie cutter. We haven't seen anything like this in forever. I've been covering pinball for 10 years or more, and I've never seen a layout I love the colors. I love the Sentinel armor on the LE. I love Zombie Eddy's art package on this game. I love the sentinel. I love everything about this game. I love Magneto. I love the little mini Danger Room playfield on the left side of the game. I love how the Sentinel can break up the wire forms. I love everything I've seen so far. Now everybody still remember we haven't played it. We don't know if it's actually as fun as it looks. Is it going to play a little bit narrow because the flippers are all moved over to the right? I don't know. But when I look at the video, the amount of ballplay This Week in Pinball, Franchi COSTA, Michael Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteinsula New young blood in pinball Everything about this launch his enthusiasm his excitement for this game came through in his video It came through in George Gomez video It like I always say if you give people something they passionate about they will go the extra mile If you hand the designer a theme they don even love like handing Eric Minier the godfather that exactly what you get If you hand Pat This week in Pinball Toy Story 4 that exactly what you gonna get So I really do believe when we think about pinball and at these prices ladies and gentlemen we gonna talk about prices and how games are finally starting to live up to the wow of the prices because over the last three years let be honest the games haven been wow at all the only thing wow in pinball has been the pricing like James Bond didn wow us Jaws didn wow us it was The game is cool but it didn't wow us. We know Venom didn't wow us. We didn't get wowed by John Wick. But this is the first Stern game. Since Stern's pricing has been this much where the game actually wows us as much as the price and they needed that. This is the best launch Stern has had since Godzilla and I think this game is going to be a home run for the company. And here's the thing. It's like now we've got this game. The L.E.'s are on the line. And is there anything that like I want to talk about other than the wow of the game? Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing I was thinking about this morning. It's like I'm looking at all three models and they're all beautiful. And I'm almost like, well, they're all too nice because like all of a sudden it almost is really hard to justify three thousand dollars more for the L.E. That's the main thing I was thinking. Camera So let's just stop being jerks about the pricing stern. Let's give LE games at 13,000 an exclusive topper. Jersey Jack gives everyone who buys the CE an exclusive topper. I think they need to do that. Again, because I just don't see $3,000 more in value for the limited edition version of the game. Now that being said, I think they're going to sell all 811 because I do love the Wolverine art pack This Week in Pinball, FranchiSPD racquet These are released from revolves schlim mau Lipr joint signed jointly with Tennesseex on mca4 D Medicineawcy WingI assisted c n kind of don understand waiting a week You going to allow Stern Pinball to not just release this game reveal the game take all this money do this incredible victory lap and look people don have like just lying around This Week in Pinball, Franchi), Proudly, Some people do, but trust me, most people don't want to spend $30,000 on pinball in a seven day period of time. They want a little bit more breathing room to collect more paychecks, to buy the wife some more bags, to take the kids on vacations, to do whatever else they need to do to justify buying another pinball machine. And the other reason simply is this. If you buy a brand new modern pinball machine, it's going to keep you satiated for a while. You're not going to need two. Because if you get two, you're not going to be able to appreciate any one of them because you're going to have to go back and forth, back and forth. And I think everybody, when you buy a new game, you kind of want to have an intimate honeymoon period with that game and buying two right on top of each other. Very few people will do that. Operators, I'm not so sure they are. I have to see if I can make it. I want to say thank you to Ken Cromwell and the folks over at Jersey Jack Pinball. I was invited over there next week to check out Avatar. I'm going to see if I can make that work. And I think that's a great move. I'm super happy they want to invite me through the doors. Not everybody wants Kenaida to walk through the place, but I've always had a good relationship with Jack. and recordиться, Wait until John Youssi it. I really want to encourage each and every one of us to keep an open mind until we actually see the product. You know, if anyone's in trouble, it might be what they're cooking up over in Benton, Wisconsin. It might be Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Again, because I just don't think people are going to be able to buy so many of these games and so many games are coming out. We also know Metallica's right around the corner. And it really should make everybody nervous when someone When Stern Pinball goes the extra mile, when they actually put stuff in games and they actually fire on all cylinders, their ability to manufacture so quickly and let's face it Stern quality is good. When people knock them for quality, I think it's unfounded. They sell thousands of games. Of course, every once in a while there's going to be some issues but everyone else is just selling a few hundred games. So remember that. When Stern does this, they I can monopolize this hobby and this industry so quickly And imagine if Avatar came out on top of John Wick That what they would have liked to have had happen I would not have wanted to follow up this game And again I just reading the room The vibe is incredible The response is incredible Jack Danger and team and knock this game out of the park I really hope Stern can consistently do this And I just going to say this I think people would be happy if Stern pinball was just Jack Danger and Keith Elwin releasing two awesome games a year one from each of them And that all We would need, we don't need more. I think people like John Borg have their work cut out for them. Brian Eddy, even George Gomez. The old guard is looking a little repetitive, maybe very repetitive, right? Steve Ritchie just gave us Star Trek and he skinned it as Elton John. And these new guys, right? And that's why I'm excited for Mark Mark Seiden. He's new blood. And I think all of these pinball companies, you don't need five designers, six designers. You just need one or two great designers. A baseball team. If you have two great pitchers, you can win a World Series. You don't need any bats. You don't need anything else. You just need to shut down the competition and that's what two great designers will do for any pinball company. I'm not sure Spooky has those two great designers yet. We shall see. And as far as everybody else, you know, we'll see, right? Eric Minier has been hit or miss. I wouldn't say Jersey Jack has a designer that's delivered like two stellar games. I really wouldn't. Maybe Eric with Pirates and Guns and Roses, but those games are very controversial. As shooters, they're not really universally loved. So look, it's an exciting time in pinball. I got to run to get the train. I just want to say everybody, thank you for the subscriptions. And if you haven't seen the posts, Kaneda will be back this Saturday morning live on Patreon and YouTube. So check it out. Check it out, come to the Patreon page and you can join live the Saturday morning spectacular returns exclusively for members of the Kaneda Club. I really hope you come and you hang out. It's gonna be a good time everybody. A good time to be in pinball. These companies are finally waking up and realizing they need to deliver magic to justify these prices. Whether or not these LEs are worth it, I don't know anymore. I mean that's my final thought. I just don't feel like LEs matter anymore. I just don't. It's just like there's something about it. 3000 more and I'm looking at the premium and it's just like the guy that buys the LE is not having $3000 more fun. There's nothing really exclusive that's worth the money. And it's just like, ah, it just sucks because I wish the LEs were 10-5 and the premiums were like 8500 and it would just feel better. Alright, everybody have a great day. We'll talk to you soon. Yeah.