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PNP 640- 5 Surprising Insights Post Star Wars Gameplay Vid+ EXPO UPDATE!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 10m·analyzed·Sep 17, 2025
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TL;DR

Star Wars gameplay analysis with extensive movie clips and innovative ball saves; podcast drama and Patreon updates.

Summary

The host of Poor Man's A A Pinball Podcast (Orbeez) discusses five surprising insights from the Star Wars pinball gameplay video, including extensive movie clip integration, innovative ball save mechanics with multiple control options, and accessibility despite difficulty perception. The episode includes significant podcast drama involving callouts of other podcasters, Patreon member announcements, and commentary on community politics.

Key Claims

  • Star Wars has the most movie clips of any pinball machine ever, with superior sound syncing and mixing compared to previous titles like Guardians of the Galaxy

    high confidence · Host (Orbeez) describing direct observation of 18-minute gameplay video with Ray Day, Jack Danger, Tanyo Klyce, and Mike Vinikour

  • Star Wars ball save has innovative features including a supercharged mode that pulls the ball between flippers (similar to James Bond) and a partially-charged 'suck it up' feature that can redirect outlane drains to the shooter lane

    high confidence · Host's analysis of Star Wars gameplay video, noting features not previously seen on John Borg designs

  • Despite community perception that Star Wars is very easy, it may be harder than expected due to low pop-bumper placement directing balls toward slings and outlanes, requiring difficult nudge saves

    medium confidence · Host comparing Star Wars difficulty to personal experience with Godzilla and noting outlane shots observed in gameplay video

  • Ray Day is one of the top five or top ten pinball players in the world but his ranking has dropped because he now works full-time at Stern and plays fewer tournaments

    medium confidence · Host speculation about Ray Day's current ranking relative to his playing time due to Stern employment

  • The host is currently not attending Pinball Expo 2025 due to insufficient Patreon funding (only 2 top-tier subscribers instead of 30 needed)

    high confidence · Host directly stating he announced this on Don's A Pinball Podcast two weeks prior and in both public and paywalled content

Notable Quotes

  • “I do think it's going to be a little harder than people suspect, even though, of course, we will talk later about just how gosh darn Tootin approachable it is.”

    Poor Man's Pinball Podcast @ ~16 minutes — Key insight about Star Wars difficulty balance - challenging for experts but accessible for casuals

  • “The two never run into each other. So it's programmed perfect. And I'm just super stoked for it... if you were someone who complained for years and years and years that there wasn't enough movie clips and that the movie clips they did have weren't synced up with the sounds, and then a company like Stern went out of their way to do that as perfectly as possible, you surely would thank Stern for doing that.”

    Orbeez @ ~22 minutes — Praise for Star Wars sound/video syncing and pointed commentary on previous critic complaints about similar features

  • “I watched the 18 minutes now. They only played for about 15 minutes of it. It was Ray Day, Jack Danger, Tanyo Klyce, and Mike Vinikour. So I at least know three of those players are incredible pinball players, far, far, far better than me.”

    Orbeez @ ~14 minutes — Identifies players in Star Wars gameplay video and establishes their skill level for context

  • “But maybe even cooler is when it's partially charged, you can kind of suck it up like bring with the milkshake, bringing the boys to the yard. You can kind of suck it up that right out lane... and it will go to the shooter lane.”

    Orbeez @ ~27 minutes — Enthusiastic description of Star Wars ball save's unique 'suck it up' partial-charge feature

  • “I made this paywall so if someone's being extremely rude and mean to me, I can go behind the paywall and call them out a little bit. Now, only 15 people have the option to listen to this, which is sad because it's at 77 impressions.”

    Orbeez @ ~54 minutes — Explanation of Patreon paywall strategy and indirect commentary on audience size for controversial content

Entities

OrbeezpersonRay DaypersonJack DangerpersonMike VinikourpersonDonpersonGlennpersonGlenn Waechterperson

Signals

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    gameplay_signal: Star Wars features novel ball save mechanics with supercharged mode (pulls ball between flippers like James Bond) and partially-charged 'suck it up' mode that redirects outlane drains. Host notes these features appear new for John Borg designs and may have been inspired by Jack Danger's Foo Fighters innovations.

    high · Host's detailed analysis of 18-minute gameplay video showing multiple ball save scenarios and redemption options

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Star Wars perceived as very easy by community, but gameplay video suggests difficulty is moderate due to low pop-bumper placement directing balls to slings/outlanes, requiring expert nudge saves. Host notes expert players (Ray Day, Jack Danger) took 15 minutes for 4-player game.

    medium · Host's observation of expert gameplay duration and mechanical analysis of outlane risk; comparison to personal Godzilla gameplay experience

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    product_strategy: Star Wars integrates unprecedented volume of movie clips (host claims more than any previous pinball machine, including Guardians of the Galaxy) with perfect sound syncing and mixing, positioning film IP depth as differentiator.

    high · Host's direct observation: 'I think I heard a thousand... I've never seen this many movie clips in any pinball machine ever'

  • ?

    content_signal: Significant interpersonal conflict between Poor Man's Pinball Podcast host (Orbeez) and another unnamed podcaster who went on 'hour and a half rant' criticizing host. Host has blocked this person and created paywall content to address the conflict, with positive community reception.

    high · Host's 10+ minute discussion of blocking person and paywall strategy; mentions episode 639 with 77+ impressions despite only 15 Patreon listeners

Transcript

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Sous-titrage ST' 501 Pinball Nerds Podcast, coming to you from beautiful River Higgins, Nova Scotia.
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Welcome back, Pinball Nerds, to episode 640 of your fifth favorite Pinball Podcast. Now, as you can hear from my voice, I do have a pretty bad cold right now, but I've wanted to record and bring you this show for several days, and I'm finally on the mend. And good enough anyways with my angry alpaca cappuccino here to at least get through a nice short episode for you. So now something I did not want to do on the show, but I'm going to have to do. I've got to call out Don of Don's Pinball Podcast. OK, I have to. I'm sorry. I have to. A lot of people probably thought I might be calling out a different pinball podcaster. And I'm not just not going to do that. Or if I'm going to do that, I already did it behind the paywall. Paywall, that's right. Episode 639. Unfortunately, a negative Nancy, a Debbie Downer. You know, I love pinball nerds. I hate pinball dorks. This dude's a dork. This dork went on an hour and a half rant about me, and I'm only going to give him 10 seconds to talk about him. So all I will say is I've blocked said person. I don't want to ever talk to or deal with said person again. And honestly, it was more, you know, some people are telling me, some people are saying it's the greatest episode of pinball that ever happened. You've got to you've got to check it out on Orbeez Patreon. OK, with my cold voice, my Cheeto voice isn't as good, but it never was that good. Let's be honest. Oh my gosh, I just blew my nose and I'm already sniffling. Okay, so anyways, there you go. I, yeah, I went off. I went off. I literally wiped the floor with this man, this dorky Debbie Downer. Anyways, I wiped the floor so freaking good you could probably eat a Five Guys cheeseburger off of it even if it fell upside down patty down. You know what I mean? Like mustard stuck to the ground, you could still eat it. That's how cleanly I wiped the floor with this fella, okay? I wiped the floor so well with this fella that you could do a slide save six feet across the floor after I was done with him. Sorry, that was a tournament player's joke. All right. I want to get back into what I'm here for today to talk about, which is five fast thoughts. Now, I've been doing this for a long time. Of course, what I do is I always do initial impressions when the first video comes out. And then after I see the gameplay video, I do five fast thoughts on it, kind of updating what my original thoughts were. Now, I've heard tons of pinball media out there. And thank you so much to all the hardworking people. So thank you, thank you, thank you for everyone who went to the media day. I've been watching, I watched a tour from a brand new channel I've never heard of before. Also, Punk Rock Pinball, thank you to them. I'm going to bring up their names and actually give them a special shout out at the end. But the couple who, I believe they actually started the Punk Rock Pinball Facebook page, but they also have a really rad, oh, they're not a couple. I don't think they're a couple. They're just friends. Could be wrong. Hard to tell sometimes. But I'm going to give them a little shout out at the end of the show as well. But unfortunately, the one person I can't shout out that I got to call out is Don of Don's Pinball Podcast. I thought we were good, Don. I thought we were good. But you know what? I don't have to give Don an undressing like that other dude because Don and I, Don is a chill, rad dude. But sometimes I just got to call him out. I got to call him as I see him, Don. I'm sorry. So anyways, let's get into this top five. Rate, meow, without further idea. Number one, holy cow, I watched the 18 minutes now. They only played for about 15 minutes of it. It was Ray Day, Jack Danger, New Programmer, and Mike Vinacor. So I at least know three of those players are incredible pinball players, far, far, far better than me. And with everyone saying how easy this game is, I was shocked to see this four-player game only went for 15 minutes. I mean, I was playing Godzilla on Saturday there in Fredericton, flip out number six or seven or whatever it is at Flippin's Arcade. And in between rounds, I just kept going back and playing his new Godzilla. And like, I never got to get to ball three usually because by the time I was done like two balls, you know, the 10, 15 minutes between the rounds were done. And it was like, okay, well, next round's up. You know what I mean? And so what I'm getting at is that if me as a mediocre player is having 15 to 20 minute ball times, you know, not for one ball usually, that's usually like, you know, five to ten minutes. Five minutes on a mediocre ball, ten minutes on a good ball. And it wasn't set up that hard, to be fair. But what I'm getting at is that I don't think Star Wars is quite as easy as everybody thinks. You have to remember they've got those pop-umpers very, very low. You rarely see with Stern pop-umpers in the lower third. The only other game I could think of was like, doesn't Deadpool have that? And I know, you know, there's Spanish Eyes, there's lots of older games, there's Rick and Morty, but I'm talking about from Stern, right? So the combination of having those slings, the slings shoot the ball directionally right towards those, and then that creates extra chaos. So we did see a lot of especially left out lanes, but I saw a lot of a lot of the ball going out the out lanes here. And each one of these guys has no problem doing a slap save and saving it from going straight down the middle. But it's going to be really, really, really challenging for them. You know, it's much harder to nudge a ball back up out of the out lane than it is to just prevent it from going down the center. So I do think it's going to be a little harder than people suspect, even though, of course, we will talk later about just how gosh darn Tootin approachable it is. And why I actually think that might be a good thing. But all 18 minutes while I was watching this, it was constant movie clips all the time. Some people said they thought they didn't like that like C-3PO was talking too much and stuff. I heard C-3PO and C-3PO seemed to be like less than half the callouts and it's a perfect C-3PO voice. So I don't know why anyone would be upset with this. Anyone who was upset that maybe like the X-Men voices didn't sound perfect in X-Men, I could see, you know, but, but this, this is C-3PO. Like, he's the guy who plays C-3PO. It sounds identical to him because it is him. He's the guy that for so long you've heard be C-3PO. So what I thought was, number one, this is the most movie clips. I think I heard a thousand. I've never seen this many movie clips in any, in any pinball machine ever. And that's including pinball machines like, oh, excuse me for a second. Oh, sorry, guys. That was gross. I tried to come back from the microphone. I'm sorry.
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Tanyo Klyceperson
Colinperson
Jamie Burchellperson
[name withheld pending review]person
Cale Hernandezperson
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personnel_signal: Ray Day and Keith Elwin ranked significantly lower in IFPA rankings due to full-time designer roles at Stern reducing tournament participation. Reflects broader pattern of top designers moving into permanent manufacturer positions.

medium · Host's discussion of Ray Day's current top-5/10 ranking despite reduced competition schedule; comparison to Keith Elwin's drop from #1 to 25-50

  • $

    market_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast reached 15 Patreon subscribers ($95 CAD/month) within 10 days of launch, driven primarily by demand for paywall content (Stern rant, critical commentary). Multiple subscribers explicitly joined for 'rant' content.

    high · Host's announcement of 15 subscribers achieved by day 10; Pat's Arcade explicitly joined 'for the Stern rant'; episode 639 has 77 impressions despite 15-subscriber cap

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball podcast ecosystem shows signs of interpersonal tension and drama, with multiple named and unnamed podcasters involved in conflicts. Host references previous disputes and community gossip about motivations.

    medium · References to Don's Pinball Podcast, previous rant about unnamed podcaster, rumor that Orbeez 'didn't want a different podcaster to go to Expo'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Star Wars ball save appears to introduce innovative redirection mechanics (suck-it-up feature, cross-playfield transfer) not previously associated with John Borg designs, possibly influenced by Jack Danger's Foo Fighters work.

    medium · Host's observation: 'I don't remember any previous John Borg games that have anything like either of those two features... Could be wrong. I've been wrong before.'

  • ?

    event_signal: Major pinball content creators and community members discussing Pinball Expo attendance; host (Orbeez) unlikely to attend due to funding gap (needs 30 top-tier Patreon, only has 2). Rumors circulating about interpersonal dynamics affecting attendance decisions.

    high · Host's detailed explanation of Expo funding shortfall and prior announcement on Don's Pinball Podcast Live two weeks prior

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    product_concern: Community criticism addressed: previous pinball machines had poor sound/video syncing for movie clips. Star Wars specifically engineered to address this complaint with 'perfect' mixing and sound synchronization as acknowledged improvement.

    medium · Host's commentary: 'I can't seem to remember who that was who always said that [about needing synced sound/video]... it was kind of surprising... they seemed really, really underwhelmed with Star Wars'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Top-ranked players (Ray Day, Keith Elwin) reducing tournament participation due to full-time manufacturer employment, affecting competitive rankings and tournament meta. Creates gap between designing ability and competitive ranking.

    medium · Host's analysis: 'Ray Day... doesn't have time and energy to travel quite as much as he used to because he's working full time at Stern'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Host responds to community criticism of Star Wars (perceived as shallow, easy, lacking deep code) by contextualizing game design philosophy - not all pinball needs AIQ-level complexity. Defends accessibility-focused design approach.

    medium · Host: 'It's not the world's deepest code, but we don't need to have... AIQ code... in every single pinball machine'

    • 7:26
    So that's including Guardians of the Galaxy. And I had like the thing that added like extra clips and stuff. And I don't think the extra clips are even close to a thousand. Right. So, wow. I think this is probably the most movie clips, the coolest movie clips. And yes, you get to hear the sounds along with the movie clips. There was I can't remember who it was, but there was a pinball podcaster for years and years and years. And they just never shut the F up about, oh, I need a pinball machine that has, you gotta be able to hear that the sound clips have to go with the video, the sound clips have to, and then we have this perfectly, the sound is just perfect on this, the music is just perfect on this, and more importantly, the mixing and the loudness is just perfect. Perfect. The two never run into each other. So it's programmed perfect. And I'm just super stoked for it, because if you were someone who complained for years and years and years that there wasn't enough movie clips and that the movie clips they did have weren't synced up with the sounds, and then a company like Stern went out of their way to do that as perfectly as possible, you surely would thank Stern for doing that. I'm sure you would do that, right? I can't seem to remember who that was who always said that. But, yeah, it was kind of surprising. I was a little shocked by a couple of the, well, primarily one, but a couple of the content creators just seemed really, really underwhelmed with Star Wars. And I get it. It's not the world's deepest code, but we don't need to have, like, AIQ code, like Avengers Infinity Quest code in every single pinball machine, where even if you're a pinball nerd who's played for eight years and you somehow won your province or state, You still don't really understand the rules of it, even though your best friend McGoffin owned the freaking thing for like two years. You still don't understand the rules of it, right? I was talking about myself, by the way. All right. So number one is so many freaking movie clips, so many important stellar. Like I recognized every scene in these and I haven't watched one, two and three for a while. I don't know. You know, I don't know, a decade or so, 15 years, maybe. Okay, number two, this is the one that shocked me the most and the one that I'm the most excited about.
    9:36
    That ball save has way more options. It has way more, it's way more controllable. The top, what I'm so stoked about, so what we saw is we saw, I guess it gets charged up. And what we saw is that when it was supercharged, yes, it would grab the ball so tight and it would pull it up a la like James Bond with the ball save where it pulled it up between the flippers. I've mentioned multiple times on many shows. Why don't we ever see that again? So thank you. Stern, are you listening? I'd say yes. So thank you, Stern, for that. But wow, what a cool ball save. But maybe even cooler is when it's partially charged, you can kind of suck it up like bring with the milkshake, bringing the boys to the yard. You can kind of suck it up that right out lane if it's coming down hard and fast down the left out lane and it will go to the shooter lane. And that's because they have this ingenious little bump thing here. I don't know if that was like learned from helping with doing Jack Danger's thing and Foo Fighters. It's not identical, but it was similar. I don't know if that gave them the kahoots. I don't know if that gave them the chutzpah. I don't know if that gave them not just the idea, but like, hey, if Jack Danger can do something unique and something interesting and something cool with this ball save here on Foo Fighters, what the hell can we do on Star Wars? Because I don't remember any previous John Borgs that have anything like either of those two features, like the suck it up feature or the feature that shoots the ball from the left in lane over to the right.
    11:07
    Again, I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. The great thing about being wrong is that if you're able to admit when you're wrong, it's so much easier to move on with life. It's such a it's such a more enjoyable to go about it. And for a guy like me who's wrong a lot, like a lot, a lot, a lot, who has like temper issues, among other things, I am watching the scene in the background. Jack Danger is playing with one hand, so I'll be honest, that obviously sped it up a little, but he is only one-fourth of the players playing there. And you have Ray Day, who's one of arguably either the top five or top ten, depending on the day or who you ask, players in the world, Even though he might not be ranked that high because he doesn't have time and energy to travel quite as much as he used to because he's working full time at Stern Surprise Surprise. Much like Keith Elwin's ranking dropped from number one to like, I don't even know what Elwin is now, like 25 or 50 or who knows. Elwin plays even less tournaments than Ray Day, which I get. You know, you've been playing in tournaments for 20 years.
    12:05
    You've been ranked number one in the world. And now you want to just go, you know, design awesome pinball machines for the world. And maybe just winning pinball tournaments isn't quite as important to you anymore. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's, you know, you've got to follow your dreams. I mean, let's be honest. If you get to work on pinball machines all day long and you love working on those pinball machines, you are going to be at that at some point, 40 hours in, week 10, week 20, year 2, year 3, year 5 like Elowin. You're going to be like, oh, okay, I'm not as excited to go play pinball machines on my time off. When you've been playing pinball machines 40, 50 hours a week, you're like, yeah. So can we go to like anywhere maybe without a pinball machine for like two minutes of my life? I don't know. I'm just guessing. I could be wrong. I think he's such a hardcore pinball nerd. I would guess that most of those designer dudes play pretty much every day, even if it's just a practice play or figuring out the rules. But let's move on here. So I told you number one was the movie clips.
    13:02
    Shocking. It's shocking how many good movie clips were being played at good times. And for me personally, yes, I was starting to get, you know, I like the animations at Stern, but I was ready for some movie clips again. I think the last, I don't know, three or four, I don't know, did Wick even have movie clips? I don't know. I've never played Wick. Who knows?
    13:20
    All right. So that ball save, you're going to see the top players in the world. You're going to see the Escher Lefkoffs, the ZMAX, the Jason Zollers. You're going to see them implementing that very unique and in strange and different ways. Now, they're going to have to bastardize the hell out of this machine so it doesn't play too long, but they already have to do that to machines like Godzilla and Metallica and lots of other machines that are fairly long players that don't have any really tight, really hard to hit shots. I did hear, I believe, Mike Vinicor, by the way, which is really nice to see. I know Mike Vinicor was working on the lighting programming for a while. Oh, see, Mike Vinicor just had the ball go straight down the middle and he hit the ball save and it shot up that left out lane. So I bet you we're going to see someone who figures out how to either do it properly or just by chance probably will be able to hit it up that left out lane. See, I didn't even know that was an option. And I've already watched this twice, my third time watching it. So there's just so many options with that ball save. You're going to see the top players implementing it. I bet when the ball's still above the flippers for one reason or another, maybe do like easily suck the ball over and across. I'm not sure. But it's, you know, from one flipper to another, who knows? A magnet pass? We could see that. I'm not going to say no.
    14:35
    Guys, I really want a fisherman's friend, but if I put a fisherman's friend in my mouth, wait, I remember hearing on a podcast that in the United States they don't have them very much, Maybe it's just in the northern part of the U.S. Okay, and definitely I doubt there's lozenges in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Europe, and Australia. So I will just let you know I'm sucking on the halls. I got a lozenge. Or as they say, my wife and I can't wait to go to Scandinavia. We've loved Scandinavia our whole lives. It's on our list when we sell the farm in two years. And when I get there, I'm going to go high in the mountains. Watch your ears, everybody. I'm going to sing.
    15:13
    Gricola. Okay, I think it's actually lower like Gricola. All right, all right, all right. If poor, if my son was not up and getting ready for school, he is now. All right, no, I think I already heard him stirring. He's probably already getting ready up there. But anyways, it is 8.43 a.m. on September the 17th. So I'm going to guarantee y'all, hey, listen, if Stern can do it, I can do it. And if Stern, you know, Stern's the number one pinball company in the world for a reason, I'm going to be putting my little Stern freak out in the vault. That's right. I'm going to put it in the vault. It just sounds silly just saying it. September 1st. Look, could I be persuaded to change my mind? Perhaps. But you have less than two weeks today to join the Patreon. If you would like to, you know, it was very embarrassing. It was very hard for me to listen to it. I laughed way, way, way more than I thought, which is great. But I'll tell you what, the feedback from my last pinball podcast, episode 639, it's an hour and 20 minutes of freaking hootenanny laughs. I had multiple people, multiple people said they think it's actually better than my Stern rant. And most people said my Stern rant was my best episode until recently, like three days ago. So ironically, ironically, I had someone join my Patreon called Pin Guy, and then I looked up their email, and their email was masked from an iPhone, and I thought, well, who is this? Now, it could just be someone from a pinball company who doesn't want me to know they're subscribing. It could be that. I doubt it, but it could be. And by the way, if you are part of a pinball company and for one reason or another you're worried, oh, Orby might say something in the future that doesn't perfectly agree with my thoughts or my ethics or whatever, first of all, I guarantee you're part of lots of patrons where the content creator has probably said one thing you didn't agree with. So you never want to judge a person on their worst day. You don't want to do that. Um like if we judge Glenn on his one bad comment when he had thousands of good comments and he done thousands of literally thousands of rad stuff never mind just working with the Sopinball but um much like much like the uh um much like the intro song that you just heard in mine he done intro songs for multiple pinball podcasts hardly ever charged a penny from what I understand if anything I mean I did pay the man off in maple syrup So if you ever go visit Glenn tell him to make you some waffles and chicken and toss some of Orbeez maple syrup on there I tend to think it's the best maple syrup on planet Earth. But anyways, Glenn had a bit of a tough week, so he might be, you know, he's probably Glenn had a bit of a tough week. I love you, Glenn. I don't know if I'm going to see you at Expo. And Glenn, I don't want to make things tougher on you, buddy, here, but I just weighed in this morning at 214, which means I'm down a solid 12 pounds for our little experiment to see who can weigh less. Now, I don't know how it works if I don't actually make it to Expo, but I lose more than you. And who knows? Glenn could be down 15 pounds, but from my most recent update, maybe a week and a half, two weeks ago, it sounds like I pulled a little further ahead of Glenn. Glenn, I'm just big all over. Glenn is like super strong, ripped, worth his hands for a living, that kind of thing. But he got a tiny little bit of the old craft beer belly being down there. Is it Nashville? I always forget. Being down there somewhere with lots of good craft beer, he's tempted often, of course, and that would be no different than right now. So anyways, will I make it to Expo? I'll just be straight up and be honest. Because I did hear someone say, ironically, that they told another pinball podcaster that Orbital Albert really didn't want a different pinball podcaster to go to Expo. And it's like, I already announced on Don's Pinball Podcast Live two weeks ago that I wasn't going to Expo. I've already said behind and in front of the paywall that I'm probably not going to Expo, even though I'd love to. And yes, had I got like 30 people who had gone to the top tier level for Patreon, could I easily afford to go? Sure. But I only got two people at the top level, which is still incredible. OK, I'm going to run down the list really, really, really quickly. So each of these pinball nerds and it's funny, it's almost like someone was talking about me on Saturday because I didn't do any shows. I didn't put up anything. And somehow I went from nine patrons to 15. So I'm going to read through them really, really, really quick here. But shout out and thank you so much to Jamie B, also Jamie Burchill of the JBS show. He is a public figure, so I will say his whole name, but number two is Drew C. Thank you so much, Drew. Number two is Drew C. Number three is Retro Ralph. Number four is Kyler D. Thank you, Kyler. Number five is Jason Forbes. And Jason Forbes, he loves my coffee. He joined on the higher level. Jason, you haven't heard me advertise for coffee sales for a very long time because the shipping costs are constantly changing and it's hard to develop it and change it with Square. And then over on top of that, the tariffs are changing almost daily and monthly. And so I would not I would feel so bad if someone ordered like one bag of coffee from me for 28 bucks. And then all of a sudden, like they were charged, they were upcharged an extra 15 for shipping, which they might be. And then they were charged like an extra 12 for the stupid tariffs. So that's part of the reason why I did actually start this Patreon, because it's nearly impossible for me to make even a little bit of money. I used to do a few hundred dollars a month in sales, sometimes a thousand on a good month, but that wasn't all profit, right? I might make between four to six dollars profit on a large bag of coffee and one and a half, like $1.75 to $2.25 on a small bag. So anyways, let's get back into this. Jason Forbes, your coffee or Pinball Nerds podcast trading cards are coming in a month and a half. That's right. I'm shipping them out on Halloween.
    21:02
    Sail Halloween. Weed. Hey, say Lala Weed. Okay, only the Canadians are going to know that, Humdinger. All right, number six, Darren W. Thank you so much, Darren. I really, really appreciate it. No, Daryl. I think it's Daryl. No, it's Darren. It's Darren. I effed up. I'm looking down further. Sorry. I am on some type of cough or flu or cold pill. I had to do a nighttime one because the ingredients in the daytime one really hurt my tinnitus and make it worse. And I haven't even done any type of cold or flu for a long time because the ringing in my ears has not gone away since right around January of this year. It's got very quiet multiple times, which is awesome. Let's get back into this. My best friend, Mr. Matthew McGoffin. Now you'd think I would have called up all my friends and been like, hey, can you guys please subscribe? Uh-uh. But I did tell Matt McGoffin he should subscribe because I told him that the Stern rant is back there behind the paywall. And he was totally like, dude, I have to hear that. I missed it before. I have to hear it. I can't miss it. So he even said he might just join for a month and leave. I said, Matt, you are nerd herd number seven. You are nerd herd member number seven. Now, listen, the nerd herd is not as cool as the Pimball, the sorry, the poor men's pinball tribe. Shout out, butthole number 26 here. Shout out to the tribe. I don't think there's a single solitary tribe member. Oh, no, that's not true. We got our first tribe member. So this is the person I'm about to announce to you is the very, very first member that is a member of the tribe and the Nerd Herd. Or wait, am I Nerd Herd number zero? I don't know. Anyways, so Nerd Herd number seven. Congratulations, Melvis Megaphone. Welcome to the Nerd Herd. All right. Number eight is Kale Hernandez. Kale, I love you. I'm in love with you. You're a mad dude. Platonically, platonically, of course. I know he's happily married. I'm happily married. Shout out to Rachel Bess, his partner. They just she just had her birthday yesterday. They just did an incredible episode. I couldn't stop listening. I listened to the whole thing this morning from like 6 a.m. I was laying in bed doing some yoga, stretching out my back. My whole body's sore from this whatever that's it feels worse than a cold, but like not as bad as the COVID. Sorry, Ian. Sorry. But I don't know what it is. Number nine on the list is Brandon L. Number 10 on the list is Colin A. You might know him from The Kineticist or This Week in Pinball. Well, Colin is, I'm getting tempted to do the monetization for Colin. Not just because, not every content creator who helps me out, am I going to go spend the exact same on them? That wouldn't really make sense. But Colin is actually offering a lot of really good behind the scenes content right now. So if you haven't ever considered it, there is some pure gold over there. I don't know if anything over there behind the paywalls is as good as my tearing down of Kaneda on episode 639. But and the thing is, I didn't even really lose. OK, I lost my temper a little in a couple parts. But for the most part, I was just super honest and I couldn't believe it. I've had two people in different in different ways told me now, wow, you really nailed it. Like you were just open and honest, but you called him out on everything. And I have had all this stuff just sitting on me for years. Do you guys remember like two months ago? He went on this big rant. That's why you haven't seen me in there two months ago. He went on this big thing like saying, oh, am I bullying you? I'm like, you can't even say bullying. So, no, you're kind of bullying yourself. Oh, you need to go get a glass of Wooter, Albert? And I was like, no, I'm finding this actually really funny, Chris. Oh, I'm bullying him. He needs to go get some Wooter. And I was like, nah, bro, I think your speech impediment is kind of bullying you right now. However, however, I would never make fun of someone for something like that unless they were deeply personally making fun of me and calling me. So anyways, again, this is exactly what I made the paywall for. I made this paywall so if someone's being extremely rude and mean to me, I can go behind the paywall and call them out a little bit. Now, only 15 people have the option to listen to this, which is sad because it's at 77 impressions, which tells me multiple people have either started it and gone back and listened to it later or multiple people have re-listened to it more than once because they were like, holy shats. Like, I'm not going to say it's the best pinball podcast of all time, but it might be the most honest. That's perhaps one of the most funny of all time. And I can't wait. At the same time that I'm going to put my Stern rant behind the paywall, I think maybe, maybe, maybe in a couple weeks or maybe a month and a half, I might eventually let this bad boy go. Because I have tried to be drama free. I was drama free from episode 493 to episode 620. I fell off the rails a little bit in 620 because I was called schizophrenic and as someone who's been working very hard on several mental health diagnoses, I was really not pleased about that. However, I would say this time I did not spiral out of control because even though someone called me pathetic and went on me for an hour and a half on and off on their entire show, even though I literally did nothing wrong, I didn't write anything on that person's Facebook page, I didn't say anything to them, I had nothing to do with the whole issue. All I said is, I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Basically, Glenn called you out for changing your tune all the freaking time, which he does. It was just a poorly timed post, which Glenn has already admitted to. So anyways, let's not talk about that anymore. If you want to hear perhaps the funniest, by far the most truthful, and I think I was actually being really humble in it, but I really go behind the paywall and I really break down a lot of stuff that's happened over the last year, year and a half. You know that normally I would never talk about openly on here. So I would be shocked if at least one of you listeners don't want to hear that bad boy right now because now you got the double whammy. You got the Stern rant. You got the Kaneda rant. Jeez, what's coming? Maybe Cliff Albert's coming up next week. I don't know. I just I honestly I said I would love to get 10 or 15 Patreons in the first week and I was wrong. It took me 10 days and that's OK, though. 15 Patreons is incredible. I'm up to $95 Canadian a month. I think that's like $70 U.S. or something. But the money, the monetary value, and I said this behind the paywall as well, the monetary value doesn't matter. I would do this for free. And I did do it for free for the better part of nine years. In fact, for 480 episodes, I didn't advertise anything at all. And then finally, after episode 550, I started taking donos like once a year, basically. And since then, I haven't had any type of monetary because of the tariffs and political problems.
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    You know, I'm not able to really sell my coffee anymore. And if I'm going to spend 30 to 40 hours a week watching Twitch, watching every pinball tournament, watching every single YouTuber's content, you know, listening to almost every pinball podcast out there, certainly every pinball podcast not behind a paywall. Am I right? Am I right? All the good ones. All the good ones are at least half not behind the paywall like this one, right? Eyes wide shut. All right. Number 11 is Pat's Arcade. And Pat's Arcade specifically said Pat joined just for the Kaneda rant. And what I responded is because it was the same day he joined that I or so he joined just for the Stern rant. What I said is, well, you have another rant that's probably going to be more epic than that one that you can listen to now. And I believe Pat agreed. So Glenn W. Wow. I wonder if that's Glenn Wechter. I bet I bet it is. Anyways, Glenn, thank you so much for joining. Glenn has listened to every episode of my show from the very start, and he wasn't going to listen to one where I went to town on the person that was verbally assaulting him. I don't know, harassing him, threatening everything else. He's not going to not listen to that one. And how could you? And now number 13 is Pinguy. Who is Pinguy? I don't know who Pinguy is. I assume it's probably another content creator. And maybe it's even the person I made the podcast about. Who knows? Anyways, thanks, Pinguy. I'll take your money. I'll take anyone's money. Yeah, I want to challenge one hater. One hater or one woman. I don't have either of those yet. All these people seem to like me. I wrote to Pinguy, thank you for loving my content so much to pay for it, and they never wrote me back. So that's extra sus. Then they're masking their thing. That's extra sus. If they worked for a pinball company but didn't really want to let me know who they were, per se, or let, more importantly, everybody else on the Patreon knew who they were, they would have just written back, like, thanks, I love your content, Albert, or something, right? Like, they didn't have to out themselves. But anyways, I don't know who you are. I don't know who you are, Pinguy, even though it sounds suspiciously like it might be a hater listening. But I don't have any proof there's any hater listening. So until then, I'm challenging either. I want someone to come on and say, I've been a long time Orby hater, but I also find you mildly entertaining. So I'm going to pay frickin $1 a week. And yes, I found this out. Darren, let me know. It is only $4.20 a month. It's literally a buck a week. It's actually less than that because most months have three more days in a week. So, Darren, let me know if you have subscribed through your iPhone or through Apple some way, shape, or form. Don't do that. Subscribe directly through Patreon. Either go to the Patreon website or sign up through Google or whatever. Like any of the other operating systems, literally, that aren't iOS. They somehow, some reason, charge you a 30% extra. I don't know why. I don't know how. Are you listening, Apple? That's not rad. Why is everyone else being charged 33% more? Why do you get 33% of every one of my podcasts that I do behind the paywall? Give me a break. All right. You already get enough money off the top. Take it easy, Apple. You're already like one of the world's richest companies. All right. And I'm going to leave out number 14 for now, but number 15. I got to save 14 for the end, but number 15, Tim the Lion Man Lee. Welcome to the show. I'm really shocked and really excited. I know Tim doesn't listen to as many pinball podcasts as he used to, and I frankly didn't think he listened to mine. But you know what? Maybe he listened to another pinball podcaster's live stream Saturday and went, well, that wasn't very cool. Albert literally had nothing to do with this, yet he was money shamed multiple times. Oh, you only bring in $40 a month? You're such a lazy, pathetic loser. 600 episodes and that's all you got is nine? I got more than that before I woke up and put on my ugly pink Gucci clothes. All right. No, we're not doing that here. We're not doing that. That's behind the paywall. If you think that was even remotely funny, that's not even a taste. That's not even a lick. That's not even as they would say in German, das Quinter, of how freaking close I came to walk on the edge of the line on what I will say is perhaps my best pinball podcast ever. But I'll let you be the judge and jury of that one. All right. Tim, the line, and Lee, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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    This is by far the most important thing here that I want to talk about, and it's been said in a negative light by many content creators who are typically primarily positive. And I understand where they're coming from with this. You can look at it both ways. Is this going to be a pinball machine that I could put in my arcade or a hardcore pinball nerd like probably listening to this could put in their arcade and just have one pinball machine? Or this one pinball machine and an EM in a solid state? No. This can't be your only modern pinball machine because it's not that the... Look, with Ray Day working on the code, I'm super stoked about that. Everybody has agreed they're really stoked about that. But it's just so approachable. There's not a lot of hard shots. You can hit, from what I understand, almost every single shot on the entire playfield from backhanding or forehanding it.
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    Sorry, guys. Excuse me. Hey, most people wouldn't even have recorded today. And believe me, I wanted to yesterday. I had like no voice yesterday. So this is at least slightly better than that. I still have a bit of a fever, but I am feeling better. But is it approachable? Yes. But what we saw in this four-player game is that, oh my god, those pop bumpers mixed with, oh my god, what are those, the slings above the flippers, of course. If you make those pop bumpers like maxed out and you make those slings maxed out for a big tournament, it's going to be ridiculously hard. We saw even Ray Day and Mike Vinicor, two really, really good players, hell of a lot better than I am, you know, lose the ball because of maybe not directly, but because the ball started bouncing back and forth between. I know, well, once with Ray Day, it was like the left bumper, right? And once with Mike Vinicor, I think it was like a combination of the of them hitting just all of them and going back and forth and outlane, boom, gone. So John Borg is known for his outlanes. So I don't think this is going to specifically be different. And as we saw with the most incredible ball save of all time, I think just with all the options you can do with the Yoda ball save, you know, it's not a guarantee. It's not a guarantee. We saw Ray Day and Jack Danger, I think, and multiple people miss the ball save. Once you have it fully, fully, fully fired up, and I think you actually, I think you charge it up on the pop bumpers. So if you ever wanted the ability of using the force, so it's very similar to like in The Walking Dead when they have those stand-up targets on the left. They're super-duper dangerous, but they can help get you to like, I forget that mode, horde, I believe. They can help get you to horde really fast, and in like three or four minutes you can build up a huge, massive score, especially if you're not great at just hitting the ramps back and forth left and right like me. But anyways it is approachable It is approachable But let me tell you why I think this is a good thing And this is going to lead us into number four the five fast thoughts I sorry it supposed to be fast thoughts The fifth fast thought is that this machine is going to be the king of location for years to come I'm not even joking, maybe a decade. Let me have a little sip of the cappuccino, okay?
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    Boy, I hate it when people do that. I'm sorry. I was trying to be annoying. I've got to stop doing that. I find it very stimulating to be annoying and it's not good for friends and family so I have to zen in and just be like nah it's easy to be annoying. Let's try to be funny while still not be annoying. Going back into this number four one here, it will be the best location play. If you have an incredible location and I'm not even joking, I'm not necessarily saying that Kale and Rachel should do this, But if you have an excellent location that has upwards of like 50 to 80 machines like they do, I would say even upwards of 40 machines in a busy location, you might want, especially if you have multiple rooms like they do at the Electric Bat, you might want to consider getting two of these, like one pro and one premium. Because sure as shats, the premium does have so many cool add-ons with the AT-AT who falls down, the star killer, the thing that can eat the balls, the big planet thing.
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    And then, of course, you don't have the ball save. You don't have the incredible ball save I was talking about. So I could see a location that had a pro and a premium. The premium would always be bringing in more money, but maybe the pro would be better to use some pinball machines. And if you had two rooms and you had them placed far enough apart, I wouldn't be shocked. Now, I know not a lot of other pinball podcasts do earnings reports, but as we heard on the electric bat, like, you know, position really matters. I forget what it was. I think Munsters went from being in the back to being the front or or no medieval madness went from being in the back room to the front room. And then they had it as an end cap at the end of a row. And because of all those reasons, it made significantly more money. Well, I would guess that if you had the premium and the pro there, especially because you're going to have it at the same a buck a play or whatever, like the same price, probably most likely just for ease of use.
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    Even though they cost significantly different, I would almost venture a bet that the premium and the pro would both be in the top five earners for like the first three months. Do you know what I mean? Like even with having two. Now, if you have like Jack Bar and Shadow to John, by the way, if you only have like, you know, five to ten pinball machines or even as little as 15, you probably just want to mix it up and just grab a pro or maybe a premium. I will say this, this is the one time I really think, because I'm such a massive Star Wars fan, if I were getting this not for location play especially, if I were getting this for my arcade, I love the artwork on the cab especially for the LE, but I think I would just end up getting the premium because I don't think I'll be able to afford the LE and the differential in price for better art for me wouldn't quite be worth it. But I almost always say I'd go for the pro. I guess that makes me a hoe, but that's okay because we're positive here about sex workers, so that's okay. But let me tell you this. This is the one time where when Danielle and I sell the farm, drop target Danielle herself, and I sell the farm in a year or two, I most likely will be looking at getting this machine in a premium. I like the other Star Wars, but this one looks way better. It sounds way better. It has way better callouts. It has way better visuals. It doesn't have as many really difficult, wonky shots that are near impossible to hit, especially important shots when you're trying to do the hyperdrive, right? Okay, so I really, and it doesn't have a weird, wild, wacky plunge that is going out all the time. I've had it where the plunge on the Steve Ritchie Star Wars goes out four times in a row on me. So, but I really think that what people are forgetting here, and I want to bring this point home.
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    Okay, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully my little fart there was not caught on here because I no longer have a direction on my thank you retro row. But could I just say this? The thing people are forgetting about when everyone's saying, you know what, I'm not super excited about this pinball machine. That's fine. You don't have to be. What you should be excited for is Stern's last three or four pins haven't been bestsellers. We know that for sure. The line is now fine. Say it with me. The line is now fine. So the line at Stern will live another day. Look, I don't think they were on like the edge of bankruptcy or anything like, you know, people who are making content just to be shocking will tell you. But I do think definitely the sales have slowed over the last year or two. And this really this guarantees that other projects that maybe hardcore pinball nerds love with a little bit deeper themes. This guarantees that for the next at least couple years, that line is going to be on fire, which means we're going to continue to see multiple cornerstones per year. It means that we're going to see all of our favorite coders working there. We're going to see all of our, you know, and again, I don't think that they were in jeopardy of the line shutting down. But what I can tell you without a doubt is this machine will be the pride and joy. This will be their Harry Potter. I would be shocked if this didn't sell a hell of a lot more than Harry Potter. Of course, not the LE because there's only 770 of them. Perfect amount, by the way, especially without Europe being there. I'm glad they didn't get cocky and try to do a thousand of these bad boys. And I do I do apologize. I want to give a really quick shout out to Enzo over there.
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    He's been killing it. He's been doing tons of interviews. Enzo did an interview on Gonzo's Flipperama, as if that isn't complicated enough. But Enzo did an interview actually first with Don of Don's Pinball Podcast and then with Jeff, my new favorite. Jeff is like by far, like for years it was Don when he was new and then for a while it was Ryan there at Phantom Tilt, you know what I mean? And then In Before the Lock, I really, really enjoyed that and I think those guys are back again. I think Colin was on there with Ian of Nudge. I'm partially through that. There's so much content that's came out. Erica was also on there. Is it In Before the Lock? I think it's that. You guys will figure it out. You guys already know about this stuff. But this particular pinball machine will guarantee, I really, really, really do think that this pinball machine, between this and how frickin' well, I just had a buddy, actually, my buddy Drew there, part of the Patreon, Siddoli, I believe, so if I mispronounce your last name, I'm sorry, my dude. But Drew said when he went to go do it, and I think it'd be okay with me mentioning this, I think Stern's fine with it as well. When he went to go visit about a week before media day, he was up there for Papa, of course. And when he went there with some friends to go do the Stern tour, the entire lobby was like stacked full with Costco Star Wars. So even if you've got Star Wars fatigue, which I do too, okay, that was my worst chewy ever. I have a cold. I can do a better Chewie. I promise. I'll try to remember to do it next time. You know when the ball goes out the left outlay in Star Wars, you hear Chewie yell? Or at least maybe it was just timed that way the two times I heard it happen, but it was so cute. It was so funny. If Chewie isn't like your favorite character in Star Wars, or if Chewie is, I think we're going to be besties. You know what I'm saying? I relate to him. He's weird. He's strange. He doesn't work well with others. But overall, he is kind and loving. And I like to think of myself, I'm very hairy as well. Now, I trim up at summertime, but, you know, I'm pretty tall. I'm pretty muscular. I had the pleasure now of I can say I've participated in and never got to black belt, but I have participated in three different martial arts. I still don't think I could beat up Chewie, but come on, Han Solo. Come on. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So here is the final thing I'm going to say about this.
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    Even if you don't love Star Wars and even if you don't like that there's not tons of tight shots on this and even if you don't like that maybe the code isn't quite as advanced, I mean, it's obviously not yet. Ray Day will get us there. But even if you don't like the fact that maybe it's like a fairly easy shooter and even if you don't, you're kind of getting sick of Star Wars. As a pinball nerd, it's your job, it's your duty to remember the line is now fine. Because for a while there, I mean, I was hearing rumors of them going down to like four shifts a week or getting rid of one of the afternoon shifts. I doubt those were true, but I could see why those rumors were starting when you had John Wick into like meh. And even though I think Kong is still incredible, I do think I was wrong about Kong. I definitely don't think it's Elowen's best because of that dong shot or the Kong shot or the gong, the gong, yeah, the gong show, the gong show shot. That's what it should be called. That shot is ridiculously hard. And even sometimes maybe it was a newer, maybe it hadn't been worked in, maybe it needs to be sprayed with a little WD-40. It's got to be all lubed up, who knows? But for one reason or another, I was absolutely not able to actually get it through the gong. So that's my big problem with Kong right now.
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    Anyways, Kyle Spiteri. Who is this? This autoclade on my YouTube because I watched it the other day. Okay, so this is called Console Kits. I'm not going to drop a link for them in here. You're a big boy or big girl listening right now. But their Stern factory tour with Kyle Spiteri, I've never heard of them before, Console Space Kits. That's it. K-I-T-S on YouTube. 3,100 views. There are pinball podcasters who can get like hundreds of patrons and they're not going to get three, four, five thousand views on anything they'll ever do within a week's time, especially not on YouTube. Right. So that's incredible that a brand new content creator that we've never heard did such an incredible job shooting this. And what I love about console kits is it's almost like you're there live. There is some gentle editing, but it feels like you're just a fly on the wall hanging out with Kyle Spateri. Now, listen, I've had the Dwight Sullivan tour multiple times. I've never had the Kyle Spateri one. So, you know, never in real life. Someday I'll get to do all this and I'll be like, yeah, that's the planing machine. That's the Hanarin, whatever machine over there doing. Like, I'll know all this when I actually get to finally come to Stern. And speaking of, I did tell Zach Sharp when I wrote him back to let him know I wouldn't be going to Media Day for Star Wars that I said, and I know you can't tell me. I believe I said something to the extent of, I'm sure you can't. I know he's not allowed to say anything, but I said, and if the rumors are true about Pokemon coming up sometime next year, I'm pretty freaking sure you're going to see me at that one. If Pokemon really happened, oh my God. And the thing is, like, growing up, did I like Pokemon more than Star Wars? Absolutely not. But in the last five years, it's kind of enveloped me. And now that I'm retiring, that's right, I'm semi-retiring. I've got three shows this month. I'm retiring as a collectibles. See, now that I have a paywall, I don't know which stuff I said behind the paywall and stuff here. But anyways, I am semi-retiring. I'll still have an online store. I'll still buy very small lots just for my personal collection. But the game's got too hard. The Costco and Walmart people have won. The scalpers have won. Congratulations. I let the scalpers win. Okay, no, no, we're not doing that. Number five, this one's simple as pie, the Yoda eyes. Oh my God, those Yoda eyes are freaking creepy. It's almost as creepy as a podcaster spiraling out and having a manic depressive meltdown live on stream. That's how depressive those eyes were. They scared me. And my wife said at first, like, when we were watching the video, I said, what do you think about the Yoda?
    47:00
    And she's like, well, the artwork looks really cute, but what's going on with the eyes? It just keeps blinking really fast. You ever try to talk to someone and they like, now this could be a Tourette's thing or whatever. So I'm not like, I'm not saying there's anything bad about that, but like their eyes just keep blinking like a lot. And it's hard to look at them in the eyes. You know, if anything, I get the opposite due to probably, well, I don't know why, But a lot of people say that I stare at them too intently or I look them in the eyes too much. So I have to try to mask my true self and be like, I'm not going to stare at you in the eyes. I know that this will make you feel awkward. So I try to do one, two, three to the eyes, then look to the forehead or the nose or somewhere else. One, two, three to the eyes.
    47:40
    Unless it's a pretty girl, then it's very easy to not look at her eyes. That's a joke. That's a joke. All right. But yeah, something must be done. And thank God coding can fix this. Either leave the lights on all the time and only make them flash when the ball save is available, or only make them flash while the ball save is happening, or make them flash slower. We don't want to humanize every single solitary character from every show, but Yoda.
    48:12
    Flash his eyes too much they do. All right. I can do a better. My Yoda is sucking today. It's the cold, guys. It's not me. It's the cold. All right. Anyways, yeah. The eyes are just... It's too much. It's too much. It's very distracting while you're playing. And where are your eyes the whole time you're playing? Most of the time you're playing, especially on a two-flipper game with no upper play field, you're going to be staring there and it's going to be like, oh my god! They're going to have to put that like... It's almost like this was blinded by Dwight. No, they're not that bright. They're not flashers. If they're flashers, they're... I think you eventually would just not see it. But once I heard someone say that on a pinball podcast or YouTube channel, oh my God, I could not stop watching.
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    Now, that's the end of that, but I did say I had to call out someone here. And the person that I have to call out is Mr. Donald Garrison. Now, don't worry, Joe Chervino, the dote himself. I'm not calling him out in a negative or rude way. I've done more than enough call outs this week on someone who is ridiculously rude to a friend of mine who I had to stick up for. And if you don't love Glenn, who wouldn't love Glenn? Anyways, the point is, I got a call out Donald Garrison. Because not only did I have a minor falling out with him like a year ago, we also had a pretty major falling out, I don't know, three, four, five months ago. But also, again, because Jengiz was the one who went to Kaneda to share the information. I never use the term bully, so if Kaneda was lying about that, Jengiz, I apologize. But, Jengiz, if you told Kaneda that I was bullying him on the show, all I said is he's being a negative Nancy and a Debbie Downer, and he's putting a whole bunch of spin on this to make Glenn sound un-American and not like a nice person and not a good person, and you can't judge people on the one time they may have had an absent-minded brain fart, And maybe put a comment that was very viable on every other post on the wrong post one time. I'm not saying Glenn didn't do anything wrong. I'm suggesting, like, I like to put numbers on stuff. I'm suggesting if Glenn had wrote that on any other Facebook post that Kaneda's very inconsistent and changes his mind pretty much all the time and hardly ever, you know, it's not clocking to him. He's not standing on business. Okay, that was a Justin Bieber joke. Joke. But anyways, if you are listening, if you are listening, Jengiz, I humbly apologize because I did call you out a little bit behind the paywall because my assumption at that time was that. But then I heard Donnie and Jengiz, and I don't know which one is true. I heard them over there on WAP, and I don't listen to WAP all the time. But this was my favorite WAP episode, not only because I got like frickin' five call-outs, but also because Jengiz said something I've wanted for a long time. He said, peace and love. Peace and love. Oh, wait, wasn't that John Lennon? No, he said, I just want peace with these guys. Okay, well, I want peace too. I didn't want to be part of the argument with Jengiz. I didn't want to be part of the argument with Glenn. I didn't tell Glenn to do any of that stuff. Like, I haven't commented on Kaneda's Facebook page in probably three or four months. I haven't joined his live stream in months. If I have joined his live stream, it was only to, like, make sure he didn't talk crap about me or any other pinball podcasters or to troll the guy a little bit. I used to at least have minimum respect for him. But when you call me pathetic and money shaming, he's money shamed tons of people all the time. That's like that's like really a low blow because I'm not poor the same way an unhoused or homeless person would be on the street where there's just like no way they can get money. They've tried everything. Their mental health is so bad or their drug addiction is so bad. They just financially can't get any more money. I could get more money, but it would be a tradeoff where I didn't get to spend 20 or 30 hours a week of quality time with my kids. Where I didn't get to be a homesteader, where I was more stressed, where I made nowhere near probably like a lot of the people in this industry, but I was making 55K a year working for TD Can to Trust, talking all day about GICs and RSPs and tax-free savings accounts and how you can max it out before the tax deadline. And like I was very, very good at that stuff. I know a lot about finance. I'm not passionate about finance. I'm not excited about talking about NSFPs. I'm just not. I love talking about pinball. I would have this exact same conversation I'm having with you right now with my best friend Matthew Megapone if he wasn't working right now. I would have this conversation with my buddy Eric. I would have this conversation with Glenn the skateboarder when he's driving to work and he calls me. You know what I mean? I would say all of this stuff publicly Well I am I am So there you go But I got to Don even though I was I was a rude dude with an attitude a year ago and a rude dude with an even bigger attitude four or five months ago I was mostly mad at Jenga's, but partially Don for not really defending me a little. But now, Don, heart of gold. Thank you, buddy. Let's see you dress up as Hermione again for Harry Potter. Maybe my favorite YouTube content creator video of all time, except for the time you blew yourself for Avatar. But then the best mech was only the scramp, so that doesn't really count.
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    But Don joined, and I was like, Don, I don't want you to join. I was a little bit rude to you and Jengiz behind the paywall because I thought that you guys were responsible for starting this big beef that I didn't want to be part of this beef at all. Right? And Kaneda will tell you every single solitary show, he never, ever, ever listens to my show. So if he never listens to my show, if Genghis isn't constantly clipping it and sending him clips of every negative thing. And the funny part is if someone just clips a little part of this show, especially where I'm joking or something, they're going to think I'm just a horrible bad person. But anyone who listened to this whole show knows I'm not really calling out Donnie. Can I call it Genghis? Can I call him that? Now that now that we're buds, we're going to have peace. Can I call him that? I hope I can. I'll say it right here. I'm calling you out, Don, but I'm calling you out for having a kind heart. And look, maybe there's other pinball podcasters who have done stuff so bad to you you're not willing to forgive them. And I'm totally okay with that. Keep peace in your life. Keep mental health in your life. Every second of every minute that I had to watch that stupid live stream where he was talking about me Saturday, it made me unhappy. It made me grumpy. It made me sad. I actually did feel mildly bullied. I felt a little bit bullied. I had to almost go get a glass of Wooter for my bullying. But I was so bullied that I was actually Grumpy Gus and I got in a bit of an argument with someone in my family and one of my friends and I was just being a Grumpy Gus. So I went and recorded that podcast about the jerk because it's not fair that my friends or family have to put up with me being a negative Nancy or Debbie Downer now because this person spends an hour and a half trying to tear me down, making fun of my finances, making fun of my money, making fun of how many Patreons I have. Okay, calling me pathetic? That's ridiculous, dude. And then, and then the guy, and I even said, if you just say sorry to me, I wouldn't have gone, I won't go on this rant. And he refused. He just kept saying, call me and we'll talk. And I said, the only way I'm calling you is if you do, if you come on my show, and yeah, I will paywall it. I'm not going to let everyone listen to that one. I will paywall it because I would love to talk to Kaneda. Can I keep it mildly respectful for the most part as long as he does? Yeah. Am I going to give them a single solitary softball question? Maybe I'll say, so how's your morning going this morning or how's your day going today? And that's going to be it because I have already 15 questions drilled down. I'd love to ask them. So, Kaneda, if you're listening, which I assume you are, even though you don't listen to any of my episodes, get at me. I've blocked you, but on Sunday morning by noon, hell, I'll even do it Monday in case our time zones are off. So by this Monday, if you haven't contacted me and said that you want to do it, I'm just going to leave you blocked. Because when I unblock, I can actually see his messages. So I am blocked from his page. I can't comment on his page. I am blocked. I have blocked Chris personally. I don't ever want to speak to that person. But I will unblock it. Or you could email me at pinballnerds at gmail.com. Or you could use that pinball pin guy moniker you're using and just message me directly through, if that is you, which I think it is. But you can just message me directly through Patreon, Chris. So I would love to have you on the show. Listen, am I going to yell and rant and swear and call you names? No. But am I going to hold you to the flame that is you being honestly a really negative and rude force in Pinball for a long time? I was just I was adding up the Pinball comment, the content creators you've gone after.
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    Just in the eight years I've been in there, Kaneda was already in Pinball for like two years before me. Caneda's called out 27 and gone after 27 pinball content creators. And most of them will not stand up for themselves the same way I would. It's disgusting and it needs to end. And I think if I talk to him on the show, I'd say I got a 5% to 10% chance of getting through to him. And I have said to him privately for years, up until about a year and a half ago when I stopped talking to him completely. I said, dude, your cadence of your show is good. The sound quality is great. You're mildly entertaining from time to time. I laugh at your jokes even though more fall flat than are good. But at the same time, dude, you're always making fun of other content creators that you're jealous of. He was jealous of Zach Many for years, so we always made fun of him and Greg Bone. And then he's jealous of Retro Ralph Forever Now, so he's constantly making fun of Ralph and his gloves. Let the man have gloves! He wants to save his hands, okay? Hands are important. No, it's for the sweat, dude. He wouldn't know. It's like this is like a you wouldn't know this because you don't you're not an actual pinball player. You're just you just basically spaz behind the microphone. So anyways, I feel bad for the dude. I do wish him the best. Like I don't I don't want him to like I don't I don't I don't I do think he should get canceled. I do. I'll say that straight up. But I mean, I wish him the best that I don't wish him any ill will. I don't I don't want him to like, OK, maybe I would laugh if he stubbed his toe, but I don't want him to like sprain his ankle. I don't want him to crash his car again and do 15 flips and have to buy a brand new car or anything like that. Like, was that the third or fourth time in eight years he's crashed his car? I don't know. This man is, I would never get in a car with that guy. If you're going to pay, being on his Patreon is just dangerous because then you're going to start to get that negative Nancy mindset and you're going to have that for everything else in life. But perhaps the worst thing would be like having to ever go in a car with that guy. Jesus, that would scare me. I'm not intimidated by him because like like people are, you know, multiple people have said they like my joke about him being about ninety nine pounds soaking wet. So you could kind of just put him in your back pocket and be like, Chris, be quiet. I could literally just pick him up and walk around them at Expo like like, you know, I'm six foot. I'm six foot whatever. And I'm down to 214 pounds. But I am frickin I am the most ripped I've ever been in my life. And I am an ordained Judas. I'm an ordained Judas priest, as many of you know. So I have abided for the rest of my life to be nonviolent and I prefer that anyways. But man, oh, if I ever got to see this guy at any show, and especially if he doesn't come on here and let me do it, I am going to tear into him so hard and I'm going to do it on a live stream for everyone to see. I just can't wait for it. I'm going to have people like David Fix calling me up and just doing the slow clap. I'm going to have every pinball content creator who's just been made fun of and belittled for absolutely no reason by him. Literally, like I might only have 15 Patreons now. By the time I'm done with Kaneda, probably a year from now, I'd be shocked if I didn't at least have 30. And I'm not ever going to get 7, 8, 900 like him. He has 900 with some paying like 100 a month. So I was trying to do the math. He makes between 50 to $75,000 a year. That's what I make in about six years. Yeah, I'm making $70 and yet I still think my content's better than him and more relevant and has more to say. Maybe it's not spoken as eloquently. And yes, I do have notes. I guess I suck as a pinball podcaster. But I'll tell you what, I might have notes. But I also have class, at least a little tiny, my little pinky finger just at the nub has more class than this gentleman has in his entire body. And no amount of money will change that. No amount of money will make him more kind. No amount of money will make him more giving. No amount of money will make him start being nice to people or actually like a positive force in pinball, which he could do if he wanted to. He knows he gets the most clicks from being vile. He knows he gets the most patrons from being rude. And if he actually liked a single pinball machine that came out, he'd probably lose half his patrons. Right? People love car accidents and he is the biggest car accident pinball. Now, next Sunday, I'm going to be trying to break a world record. I'm not going to talk about it specifically here because the chances of me actually breaking said record. Oh, my God, Jim Kelly. Honey, Jim Kelly loved my F96 quote.
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    Oh, my God. Okay. So the city of London, Ontario, my old hometown, my stomping ground, the fourth city, They, the council made Your Highness, which is a very legal marijuana store in London, Ontario, which says Your Highness. Yes, hi, spelled H-I-G-H, as you might expect. The pun is there, okay. But my buddy Jim Kelly, who's part of the best improv group in southwestern Ontario, if not perhaps maybe all Ontario, if not perhaps Canada, shout out to my buddy AJ, who's in it as well. I absolutely love comedy. You guys know how much I want to see a Jerry Seinfeld pin of some way, shape, or form. I mean, I don't want B-movie, for God's sake. We don't want the divorce wife thing, but I definitely want to see either a Seinfeld, a Curb Your Enthusiasm, even a Cheers. Cheers is getting a little bit outdated, but definitely Seinfeld is still in the zeitgeist. Anyways, I wrote on here when they showed a picture of the guy spray painting over the sign. So it's the top comments so far. Oh, second top comment. Sorry. Most laughs, though. Most laughs. It says, with this many gummies in my system, how the hell will I ever find it now? So anyways, I thought that was hilarious, but that's not what I pulled up Facebook for. I wanted to tell you about this awesome new podcast and they have been doing a really good job.
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    It's under the Facebook group that's like the Punk Rock. Let me see. Here it is. Okay, I found it. Okay, so it is under the Facebook group. If you're not part of this, even if you just mildly like Punk Rock, you don't have to like have the whole jacket like me with all the patches. You don't have to have seen no effects multiple times. Okay, you don't know how to slam dance in a rancid fight. Right circle. Okay. You don't. But this dude and I I'm going to look into it better. This gentleman in this pinball podcast was in like a really cool like band for a long time. And I had even heard of them. And now I can't remember the name of the band. And I'm scrolling back and I'm scrolling back. Wow. This page has got big pretty quickly.
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    OK, so their names are Mike and Stephanie. So this post was 13 hours ago by Tom Eaton. Thank you so much, Tom Eaton. Tom says, sounds like Mike and Stephanie made quite an impression at the Stern Media Day thing for the release of Star Wars. Both Retro Ralph, the flip side, thank you, and shout out, I've added the shout out part, to Foghorn Leghorn and Craft Beer Sally of the Pinball Junk Drawer, who also mentioned them on their latest podcast. Now, I've been so busy and sick and training to break a Guinness World Record in like four days of which it strongly involves cardio. So I need to concentrate. I will be having zero craft beers, zero cheeseburgers, zero sugar between now and Sunday. But going back to Tom's post, he says on their latest podcast, they didn't remember their names, but they did remember Punk Rock Pinball and Live from the Rock Bottom. Live from the Rock Room. So live from the Rock Room, both podcasts gave kudos for introducing pinball to more non-pinball people. And that's what's great about it. And I said next, yes, I heard those shoutouts. And as a fellow punk rocker, I will be naming them and dropping a link on my next pod. Shoot, I said I would drop a link. Fine, I will drop a link. I'm also going to drop a link to my Patreon because I know at least one person has to hear What is perhaps the funniest yet most honest yet most risque I would say for lack of a better term pinball podcast on planet earth and to do that you're going to have to head over to the I would say the most value driven. In fact, my highest tier at only $8, okay, gets you Pinball Nerds Podcast trading cards or Pinball adjacent collectibles and or coffee and or tea every two months. And it's cheaper than the lowest level of some other people's Patreons. And you're going to get, I'm going to get to send you free stuff in the mail. So if and when you do go to sign up, please make sure you consider signing up at that level. If you're a coffee nerd, we've got the holidays coming up soon. I'm not going to say the C word yet. I would not do that. Come on, what type of person am I? But thank you so much to Don. Don is nerd herd number 14. And Don, I'm sorry that I did call out mostly Jenga's a little bit on my behind the scenes one. I kind of had to. I mean, Don, to be fair, you know that if it wasn't for Jenga's going to Kaneda, there's zero shot that he would have included me in an hour and a half rant. Because I don't even think that Kaneda has any clue that Glenn does all those songs. I don't even know if he puts the two people together. I don't even know if he knows anything about homebrews. He doesn't even like homebrews, right? So I don't even know if he knows that Glenn does my intro song, that Glenn does the awesome intro for the JBS show and for the roundtable, and that Glenn's helped so many other pinball podcasts. So if you all see Glenn at Expo in the homebrew area, he may or may not, I don't have any information to give you, But he may or may not be working with a new project in the homebrew area. And if you do happen to see Glenn, go over there and I don't know, maybe buy him a beer or shake his hand or tell him you appreciate everything he does for all the different pinball podcasters. Because I know I can I can be straight up and say I really, really appreciate it. And not just making songs or content or coming on the show every time I've asked him other than maybe this time, which I get.
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    Glenn has just been like my rock. Anytime I have issues, I give him a call. If someone's really teasing me really bad, he tries to talk me through it. And maybe this time I got to do it for Glenn, which is kind of nice because he's having a bit of a rough time. But anyways, pinball nerds, I love you and I'm in love with you. You're probably not going to hear a show from me for the next week unless like, I don't know, unless the new Spooky Pinball, I'm starting to get excited for the new Spooky Pinball machine already. With how rad Evil Dead was, I just can't wait to see what they've got cooking next. I can't wait to see Franchi's next artwork. I think that's going to be coming up soon. But honestly, if you three, four or five days from now, I haven't recorded because I'm going to take it could be four or five days. There's a significant chance I end up in the hospital on Sunday. I'll just say that. And that's fine. It won't be.
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    I might get concussed at very worst. I probably hopefully won't fall from. Do you know how high it is in the middle, honey?
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    That can you just ask Google that really quickly? Confederation Bridge. What's the max height? Thank you. Okay, so I will just say this. While my research assistant over there doing some work at the office table does some quick research for me, I'm just going to spill the beans. I'm attempting to run backwards, be the first person to run backwards 13.1 kilometers. That's, I think it's almost exactly 10 miles, maybe 9.9, something like that. I'm attempting to run the entire thing backwards. I did my final trial about four days ago and I managed to do 8.5 kilometers backwards, half running, half walking. It's incredible. I've been using kind of a theory called Japanese walking where you do three minutes very fast, three minutes very slow. The change of pace uses your fast twitch muscles and your slow twitch muscles. If you only had 12 minutes to walk, it's far, far, far healthier for you to walk like three minutes at a medium pace, three minutes at a very, very, very slow pace. Thanks, baby. Okay, so in the middle of this, it's 180 feet tall. Oh, the average height. The average height. She used Google, not chat. No, I think 60 meters is the highest. The highest. It says the average. Oh, the average is 40. Okay. Tell them. Talk into there. The highest is 60 meters. The average is 40 meters. And do you suspect I'll fall? No. Okay, good, because I am running backwards. So if you're running backwards, I keep thinking like, what if I accidentally hit a pothole? You know, I'm going to be trying to be like doing a blind spot check while I'm running backwards. Now you're probably thinking, Orbi, why on earth would you be running 13 kilometers backwards? Well, I'm doing it for a very, very, very good cause. And that is for cancer research. I lost my mom, who was also my best friend, to lung cancer and then brain cancer. I can't remember the name of the tumor, blastomia or something. Anyways, it was very bad because she passed away very fast at a very young age. In fact, it was just a couple of weeks after her 50th birthday. So less than four years than my age right now. So that's why I quit the ciggies. I've only been 100 percent off all nicotine for a year and a half.
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    But anyways, I'm going to be going to do this for cancer research. I'm not going to ask you guys to donate to me. Donate to cancer charities in your local area or even better. If you smoke cigarettes, cut down. If you've cut down, stop. Okay? And if you smoke cigars, the same thing. I mean, I know you're not inhaling, but there's still tongue cancer and throat cancer, and you don't want to talk through one of those things like this until next time, pinball nerds. Remember to eat, sleep, and breathe pinball. All right, I couldn't end it there. I couldn't end it there because I didn't have the thing up. Oh, well, it would have been so good if it just ended with eat, sleep, and breathe pinball, but don't smoke.