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Don's Pinball Podcast (patreon feed)·podcast_episode·45m 11s·analyzed·Jun 7, 2024
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TL;DR

Don critiques Kaneda's rumor mill, defends collecting philosophy, and shares Orlando arcade experiences.

Summary

Don discusses pinball industry drama, rumors, and speculation, particularly criticizing Kaneda's rumor-mongering (Billy Joel/Elton John confusion), defending games like John Wick and Bond despite market oversaturation with rumored titles (Harry Potter, Beetlejuice, Alice, Cuphead, He-Man), sharing positive gameplay experiences at Pinball Lounge in Orlando, and noting secondary market price declines while cautioning against pre-ordering unannounced games.

Key Claims

  • Kaneda has spread false or unverified rumors about pinball games, including a Billy Joel theme for Jersey Jack that turned out to be Elton John instead

    high confidence · Don directly references Kaneda's podcast hype around Billy Joel songs that never materialized for Jersey Jack, contrasting with actual Elton John game

  • Harry Potter, Beetlejuice, Alice Adventures in Wonderland, Cuphead, and He-Man are rumored upcoming pinball games

    medium confidence · Don lists these as speculative titles based on rumors, explicitly stating 'I don't even know if the game is actually real. It's all based on rumors.'

  • Spooky Pinball is working on a new game but it's not Beetlejuice with Christopher French art despite Kaneda's claim

    high confidence · Don states 'Spooky Pinball may not be doing Beetlejuice next, not with that special Christopher French artwork' and references seeing unrevealed game assets at Spooky that were covered up

  • Secondary market pricing for pinball machines has declined significantly

    high confidence · Don cites examples: Looney Tunes deposit dropped to $1,200 from $2,000; discusses selling Godzilla for $8,500 and buying James Bond Premium for $7,500

  • Stern Pinball is releasing three cornerstone releases per year

    high confidence · Don states 'Stern is releasing games now with three cornerstone releases a year' in context of rapid game releases affecting code maturity

  • Final Resistance by Scott Danesi on Multimorphics P3 platform is one of the best modules available

    medium confidence · Don describes it as 'easily one of the better modules for P3' after playing it at Pinball Lounge

  • Multimorphics P3 base models are available on secondary market for around $5,000

    medium confidence · Don mentions 'twice this year I was offered or came across a P3 Multimorphics system for like $5,000 for the base model'

  • James Bond Premium code is excellent but requires skilled play to fully appreciate

Notable Quotes

  • “This guy, Kaneda, exists in every hobby. He's in roller coasters, he's in the theme parks, he's in Pokemon trading cards, he's in Magic the Gathering, he's in slot cars, NASCAR, pro fishing, bowling, everybody has a Kaneda or sometimes several, right?”

    Don @ ~8:30 — Characterizes Kaneda as an archetypal rumor-spreader present across all collectible/hobbyist communities, normalizing the phenomenon while critiquing it

  • “When Kaneda was teasing all throughout one episode that he was going to reveal what Jersey Jack was doing next, and then it was Billy Joel, and he was going all in on it, and played like five minutes of Billy Joel songs. That never happened. It's not going to happen.”

    Don @ ~9:45 — Direct evidence of Kaneda spreading unverified rumors that failed to materialize, undermining credibility

  • “Buy the games if you think you like them, and if you're having fun with it, then it was the right purchase to make. Can't that still be a thing?”

    Don @ ~18:00 — Articulates core collecting philosophy opposing the speculation/flipping mentality driven by rumor hype

  • “I think Beetlejuice is coming, I think Goonies is coming, I think He-Man is coming, and that makes me happy. Whether it's this year or next year, it's fantastic.”

    Don @ ~37:00 — Expresses cautious optimism about rumored titles while acknowledging uncertainty about timing and confirmation

  • “The only thing that got me off of it for sure was him actually kicking me off. Otherwise, despite everything, I was probably still going to listen because it is entertaining content.”

    Don @ ~6:00 — Admits Kaneda's content is entertaining despite being unreliable, explaining why misinformation spreads in the community

  • “I don't think it's all terrible doom and gloom. In fact, I think it's quite the opposite, especially with the new games that are absolutely coming.”

    Don @ ~34:00 — Reframes falling secondary market prices as opportunity for buyers rather than disaster, contrasting with doomsaying in community

  • “Spooky Pinball may not be doing Beetlejuice next, not with that special Christopher French artwork and that Danny Elfman music, but they're doing something and they're excited about it, which makes me excited”

Entities

KanedapersonDonpersonChristopher FrenchpersonScott DanesipersonJerry SultenbergpersonElwin VelezpersonBrian EddypersonStern Pinball

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Don criticizes Kaneda for spreading unverified rumors and false information (Billy Joel/Elton John confusion), characterizing him as an archetype of rumor-mongering present across collectible hobbies

    high · Direct references to Kaneda's failed Billy Joel tease, pattern of vague speculation being presented as fact

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Multiple rumored upcoming games circulating in community: Harry Potter, Beetlejuice (Spooky/Christopher French), Alice Adventures in Wonderland, Cuphead, He-Man, Goonies

    medium · Don lists these as speculation-based titles, explicitly noting uncertainty; references Kaneda's 100% claims as questionable

  • $

    market_signal: Significant price drops on secondary market; examples: Looney Tunes deposit from $2,000 to $1,200; Godzilla selling for $8,500; James Bond Premium for $7,500

    high · Don cites specific examples and notes overall market being 'down' while seeing positive opportunity implications

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern Pinball releasing three cornerstone releases per year, creating rapid game cycle that impacts code maturity and accessory availability at launch

    high · Don explicitly states 'Stern is releasing games now with three cornerstone releases a year' and discusses implications for owners timing purchases

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: James Bond Premium's newest code is acclaimed but requires skilled play; John Wick showing promise; Final Resistance (Multimorphics P3) praised as standout module

    high · Don's direct experience playing Bond Premium at Pinball Lounge; praise for Scott Danesi's Final Resistance design philosophy

Transcript

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All rights reserved. The drama bulls up. The hot takes and everything are kind of all over the place. And my God, I love it. Summer's finally here. Summer's here. I guess the doldrums have set in. Barbecue sales have slowed down. And so now everybody is just continuing to lose their minds. Is there something in the water? It's almost like COVID is back. Instead of respiratory virus, it's a brain disease. People are just like having like wild reactions to, you know, what should be handled as a normal adult. It is it is an arcade and gameplay industry. So I mean, www.willywonka.com I think I had this astute observation, quite proud of myself, that if the theme is strong enough to devote millions and, in some cases, billions of dollars into recreating that as a themed area to walk around in, it would work just as well under glass as it does on the midway. www.thevillage.com www.willywink.com The Wally Williams Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
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We're really excited about this. I wish we could tell you more, but it's like it's not time yet. I was actually to the side. I was at Spooky recently, a month or so ago, and one of their new games, there was some assets for it that were out in a room, so they had to go and jack danger it up real quick before I walked in. And I'm like, oh, gosh, that would be kind of cool to see. And they were like, you know, if we let you see it now, it's just it's not ready. It wouldn't be right. It wouldn't be the best, you know, reveal for you. It's just it's not worth it, you know. The Wally Winka Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
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medium confidence · Don played newest Bond code at Pinball Lounge and comments 'The code, I agree, on James Bond. Fantastic. I don't think I'm as good enough of a pinball player to really appreciate it'

Don @ ~36:00 — Suggests Kaneda's Beetlejuice claim is unfounded while hinting at unrevealed Spooky project

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  • ?

    machine_intel: Spooky Pinball has unrevealed game in development; Don witnessed covered-up assets at Spooky facility; not confirmed to be Beetlejuice despite Kaneda's claim

    high · Don states 'I was at Spooky recently, a month or so ago, and one of their new games, there was some assets for it that were out in a room, so they had to go and cover it up'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Robust aftermarket mod ecosystem; John Wick plastic mods available ($50 for full set with etched gun designs); neon acrylic sets transform game aesthetics

    medium · Don discusses specific John Wick plastic mod by creator on eBay; references successful Foo Fighters neon acrylic set mods

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Don reconsidering Multimorphics P3 platform purchase after playing Final Resistance; citing $5K used market availability and seeing platform's potential despite previous skepticism

    high · Don admits 'I never said I really hated the system. I just, there was a lot of things that were standing in the way of me having fun with it' and notes considering $5K used units

  • ?

    content_signal: Don producing new podcast series (WAP) with second episode recording planned; receiving overwhelmingly positive feedback; plans Orlando-area recordings/meetups

    high · Don mentions 'WAP' series one episode deep, planning episode two recording, coordinating Orlando arcade visits

  • ?

    collector_signal: Don advocates for buying games to enjoy rather than flip/speculate; critical of pre-ordering unannounced games; defending John Wick ownership against rumored upcoming releases

    high · Don states 'Buy the games if you think you like them, and if you're having fun with it, then it was the right purchase to make' and plans John Wick code maturation rather than flipping

  • ?

    industry_signal: Don describes friendly relationships with pinball designers (Elwin Velez, Brian Eddy); self-describes as 'homeboys' with Elwin; selectively praises/critiques their work

    medium · Don states 'me and Elwin are homeboys man. I love his stuff' while noting preferences for some designers' work over others

    • 7:01
    The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. That's a bunch of bad bit about the pinball lobby, but sadly cannot get it out of This is the pinball hobby. This guy, Kaneda, exists in every hobby. He's in roller coasters, he's in the theme parks, he's in Pokemon trading cards, he's in Magic the Gathering, he's in slot cars, NASCAR, pro fishing, bowling, everybody has a Kaneda or sometimes several, right? And the way it works, and they generate the traffic is by, you know, putting out whatever they can, you know, they got to be known for the rumors. The Willy Winka Podcast is a production of Willy Winka Media Group, LLC. The only thing that got me off of it for sure was him actually kicking me off. Otherwise, despite everything, I was probably still going to listen because it is entertaining content. I won't lie. But I know from seeing these people before, what they do is they put out any rumor, whether it's true, half true, quarter true, and they fill in the rest because it's going to be exciting, right? When I tell you that Hunger Games actually didn't get canceled, it's actually being released as a Spike 3. That would be like, what? Are you kidding me? Why would they do that? We would all be talking about it. The Wally Winka Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
    9:41
    www.gmail.com When Kaneda was teasing all throughout one episode that he was going to reveal what Jersey Jack was doing next, and then it was Billy Joel, and he was going all in on it, and played like five minutes of Billy Joel songs. That never happened. It's not going to happen. Maybe that might have been some truth to it at some point, but like obviously it was Elton John instead. Or maybe that was a completely separate project. Who knows? Maybe it's still going to happen. But the thing is, nobody's holding him to that, you know. This guy has all these rumors. Like, well, yeah, but remember Billy Joel? www.willywink.com I will say in the light now with you know if it was 100 true that Harry Potter was coming out next Beetlejuice was coming out next Alice Adventures in Wonderland is coming out Cuphead and He about to come out with Christopher Frangie on the art it would seem like oh man that John Wick going to lose a lot of luster pretty quickly For me, I think I'm kind of okay with it. I'll get into it a little bit more once I get the game.
    11:30
    But, what was I going with this? I have some building up to it. You know, I'll just tell you right now. So, I'm going to hang on to this John Wick for a little bit. I'm not planning on flipping it. I'm not planning on selling it in the next four months. I'm going to keep it and let the code mature and because I think I got some ideas for mods and things for it, I think it will be a fun game to hang around. Will it be as good as Alice's Adventures in Wonderland or the Harry Potter that may or may not be coming out or He-Man with Christopher French's art that may or may not be coming out and may or may not have a shooter rod that doesn't stick when you launch it like Galactic Tank Force and Barbecue? I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know if the game is actually real. It's all based on rumors. But if those games come out with the market www.willywonka.com The plan is, instead of putting money down for Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, which may take an unknown amount of time to receive, I may build up some money in the pin funds, I might sell a couple of games, have a little bit of space, and then something might pop up like, hey, here's a James Bond premium modded out with the topper, $6,800, this guy's giving it away. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, Linus Klyce, Kanyo Klyce,
    13:28
    And you have these games with the clip that Stern is releasing games now with three cornerstones a year. If you were to own a game only between that time when it was brand new and the next cornerstone release, by the time you need to sell it to get the next game in, you're sure always going to have the new game, but the code is nowhere near where it needs to be.
    13:50
    And the accessories aren't available, expression lights aren't available, all of that business, right? So I don't know that that's a great idea. Mathew Tanner, Check this out, revolutionary take. Buy the games if you think you like them, and if you're having fun with it, then it was the right purchase to make. Can't that still be a thing? Yeah, that gets an air horn. Revolutionary. Alright, alright, so what else was I doing today? I went out to the Pinball Lounge in Oviedo, Orlando area, metro area. So if you look at the clock face on Orlando, this is in the 2 o'clock position, kind of the complete, you know, 180 degrees from where the Central Orlando theme park stuff is. www.fitnext.com www.willywonka.com We'll see you next time.
    16:00
    Be well and keep it safe. 3 a ll 0 1 2 1 The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Welch donde ir . Mark Wilder More information at ballywincast.com.
    17:44
    The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. We can't wait for it. I've got some mod ideas for it. Somebody's actually put out a set of plastics already. God, is it Joe Casey that's doing it? Selling them on eBay. It's about $50 for the full plastic set. But looking at John Wick, underneath the slings, there's a clear plastic, like midway. Like midway up, there's a clear plastic, and then there's the neon green plastics on top. So what he did is he cut neon green plastics so you can replace everything. And then there's the plastics that are above the center ramp, and then the one on the right. Those neon and also has a version where they're etched with giant guns on top of it. So I kind of dig it. It's $50 for hunks of plastic. But man, it really does look pretty sweet. So I'm waiting to see if that will work on the premium LE versions and then I might jump at one. So that would be fun. So waiting for that because I did get the neon plastic acrylic sets for Foo Fighters and they dramatically improved the look of that game. So I think for John Wick it would probably kind of continue that look. So that game was cool. They had a Pulp Fiction there. Also a regular www.twitter.com.ca The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. The Art is great and everything else is half baked. I can't wait to see Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. We haven't seen anything from Alice except for the old foam core thing and some of the art. I get the aesthetic. I think Alice in Wonderland, a creepy take on it. That's awesome. They made a whole series of video games about this. There was actually a walk-through haunted house maze at Knott's Berry Farms Halloween Haunt Amusements
    22:26
    The Wally Winka Show Knapp Arcade Bally Williams Straight Down the Middle Bally Williams For sure no I don care if this game is limited to only and it going to be amazing and it going to be Nothing justifies putting money down on it at this point from my perspective If you really want the game, go ahead and put it down. I'm not going to ridicule you if you do. But I can't wait to see more about it. I had mentioned that I can't wait to... something about like this game is going to play well or something. And someone was like, well, have you seen photos of it? And I hadn't. But I'm sure it's going to play well. I mean, come on. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I don't know if I might have put it up on the discord. I should I should put it up on the patreon as well just so everybody can see it. I had a guy that's done art for me before on Fiverr. Just wanted to get something out there for WAP. It looks like we're going to record episode two tomorrow on Friday. How many episodes are we going to make? I don't I have no idea. But as long as it's fun and people are enjoying it and we're having a good time, I don't see any any downside to bringing in some extra content. The feedback I've gotten has been overwhelmingly positive for WAP. You know, it's been one episode deep. We've got over 150 The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. www.invisibility.com.au We'll meet you in Orlando area. We'll meet in an arcade or something. So, so far I went to Pinball Lounge in Oviedo at that bowling alley. It was phenomenal. What did I say? There was like 30 games there, man. And I got to play Bond Premium again with the newest code. So here, here's a hot take for you, my Patreon brethren. The code, I agree, on James Bond. Fantastic. I don't think I'm as good enough of a pinball player to really appreciate it, and that's why I don't hold it in such high regard as some other people do. If I knew what I was doing and I was doing it right, I would have been The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Subtitles by the Amara.org community
    27:28
    Slightly like 15 degrees off from how he designed so like we're not like fully in sync But like me and Elwin are homeboys man. I love his stuff. I love Brian Eddy stuff except for Mandalorian You know, but I love Stranger Things, Venom really clicked with me once I got used to it Elwin's clicked with me right away, and I tend to like him. I've had Iron Maiden, I've have Godzilla, I have Jaws
    27:50
    You know I like Jurassic Park, but not enough to own it and Avengers is fun The game is a fun game, but not enough to own it, although I thought about it. And Bond 60th is fun, but still overpriced. It needs to be $4,500. That's probably a little harsh. Maybe $6,500. But, you know, I think that's just my personal play style. Really, I kind of like that flow. I'm liking what I'm seeing from John Wick. I think that'll work. One other game that really, really impressed me at the Pinball Lounge, coming full circle, which actually you guys are going to love this. It was Multimorphics Final Resistance from Scott Danesi. The game was super fun. I've played it before at shows, a couple of places. I don't think I have 10 games on it. But it was easily one of the better modules for P3. Part of that is because there's only two flippers, so I don't have to rack my brain worrying about the extra buttons, although that's how you unlock the power-ups. I couldn't figure that out. But playing the game, it shot exceptionally well. The gameplay was exceptionally straightforward. The inserts on the screen were telling me what to do, and I was doing it, and I was having a lot of fun. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. The Pill Boxes, Cosmic Kart Racing, Heist, and Lexi Lightspeed are great proofs of concept but not terribly compelling games. But man, you get a talented person onto that platform, more of that please, more of that please yes. I'm starting to see the vision in Jerry Sullenberg's eyes there. I'm seeing where he's wanting to go with this whole system. So, you know, at $13,000 I'm not in. But I'm telling you, twice this year I was offered or came across a P3 multimorphic system for like $5,000 for the base model.
    30:33
    And, you know, gosh, with the market being down like it is, I think, I mean, I'm thinking I might. I think I'll consider it. I'll consider it. You know, I never said I really hated the system. I just, there was a lot of things that were standing in the way of me having fun with it. The Winning Pinball Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
    31:18
    The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Sethди
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    For more information, visit www.FEMA.gov We'll see how it goes. But man, yeah, the frickin' news went nuts as soon as I got here. It's like, I leave town for one week and you guys are already at it. So, is Harry Potter coming out or is it not coming out? I think for now the only thing we can say is yes. Which way up or down, who knows?
    33:05
    This was crazy. It's probably been recapped in all the forums by now. But what had happened was, apparently, Kaneda had posted in a podcast or some such that 100% Beetlejuice is coming out with Christopher Frenchie art from Spooky Pinball www.willywinks.com The Wally Williams Show Knapp Arcade Straight Down the Middle Bally Williams Straight Down the Middle The Valley Company Subsidiary of Walter Kidde Co Inc Mirco Playfields Tim Kitzrow Scott Danesi The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I saw a deposit for Looney Tunes come up for like $1,200 for a $2,000 deposit. So that's great if you want this game. That's a really discounted way to get in the door, and I don't think you'd be wrong for doing that. So we'll wait and see. I kind of am loving the fact that prices are coming down. So yeah, it's going to suck for me when I need to sell something. But at the same time, it's going to be kind of cool when I go to buy something. So I think, you know, whether I sell a game for $10,000 and buy a game for $10,000 or sell a game for $7,000 and then buy a game for $9,000 and just add a couple little bit to get something brand new. Or no, no, let's talk used. Let's talk used. Let's say I sold Godzilla and I could only get $8,500 for it, but I went and picked up someone's James Bond premium for $7,500. I got a new game. You know, I've played the hell out of Godzilla. Fantastic game, but I've played the hell out of it. Jeff杭 Simpson, kurzbs The only people that would really hurt is if you're looking at liquidating all of your games and just being out of the hobby. As long as you're looking at selling a game and buying a game, it kind of washes out, you know. What if I could only get $3,500 for Godzilla but I got a James Bond for $2,500, I'm still up $1,000 and I got a new game. I still think that's okay. So I don't think it's all terrible doom and gloom. In fact, I think it's quite the opposite, especially with the new games that are absolutely coming. Spooky Pinball may not be doing Beetlejuice next, not with that special Christopher Franchi artwork and that Danny Elfman music, but they're doing something and they're excited about it, which makes me excited and I can't wait to see what it is. I can tell you that, and I don't know this 100%, you know, nothing's 100% in this hobby, but I think Beetlejuice is coming, I think Goonies is coming, I think He-Man is coming, and that makes me happy. Whether it's this year or next year, it's fantastic. www.insiderconnected.com If we think it's awesome, then that's a net win, man. Let them get paid for the work that they're doing. Put it this way. If a restaurant is having an amazing steak dinner, and that's like the thing you love, and they cook it just the way you like it, and the salads are unlimited refills, and they've got great mimosas or sangrias or whatever, they have a blackberry sangria, and yeah, it costs $60 for the meal or whatever, but it's really good, you're happy to pay that when you go. You get excited. You're like, I'm excited. I'm going to go pay $60 for this meal. www.fitnext.com www.willywonka.com www.stern.com The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. So that stings because this used to always be free and now we're paying for it. And so it's gotten to the point that sometimes I skip it all together because I just don't want to feel like I'm being nickeled and dimed. I don't like that. I'll go do other things. I'll show up early in the day, you know, get on five rides or something and then bail out of the park when it gets busy and go hang out at the pool. Have a much better day. I don't give Disney the extra money. Sometimes a little short on time or I just want to go ride Rise of the Resistance. Here's my 20 bucks. Give me on it. You know, then the benefit is there. www.patreon.com.au Thank-you.
    41:44
    The Wally Williams Show, Knapp Arcade, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, The Willy Wonka Podcast is brought to you by Stern Pinball. The world you would do that even if you were truly slighted publicly is freaking out of my gourd, but I don't make decisions for him. He's an adult. He can make his own decisions. What I did because I was like so shocked about this is when I was doing a live stream, all I did was mention that Orbital Albert is out in orbit and you know, so I hope he comes back to Earth someday or something like that. And that's it. There was no nothing else behind the scenes, no other build up of drama. There was no tensions that were building up to this point. Like we were totally cool, man. www.willywonka.com All over the place. What's up, my boy, Ryan? We're podcasting right now. All right. My homeboy's hosting me at his Airbnb. It's fantastic. It is hot up here, sir. It is hot. But not as hot as the damage that's going to come to Stern Pinball if they don't invite me to their media day.
    43:57
    Anyway, that's all the background there is. I swear I don't have any more tea. And so I still hope the best for the guy. Maybe he comes back down from orbit someday. You know, I don't know. But go check out Ryan's podcast. He spent a lot of time on this. He even cooked up a little sponsor video including both of us in it as a joke. I thought it was hilarious. I love it. Loving to support that kind of stuff. So go and kick him a listen if you can. Hopefully we'll be able to meet in meatspace sometime and be like real good chums or whatever. So it's all good, man. It's all pinball. Thank you for being a Patreon supporter. Really appreciate it. Here's 45 minutes of some awesome dauntant straight for your brain and more to come, man. Let's do a live stream later. I don't know. I'm just hanging out at parks. You know, this is technically a work trip, but you know, whatever it Play me some outro music.