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91: Lets All Have Some Pinball

Pinball Party Podcast·podcast_episode·46m 12s·analyzed·Nov 22, 2025
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TL;DR

Returning podcaster blasts Stern's Star Wars and Walking Dead remaster while praising Spooky boutiques.

Summary

Jason from Pinball Party Podcast returns after 16 years to criticize recent Stern releases (Star Wars: Fall of the Empire, The Walking Dead remaster) while praising boutique titles (Beetlejuice, Winchester). He quit his job that day and uses the episode to discuss FOMO-driven marketing, poor shot design in Star Wars LE, and Stern's failure to communicate details about The Walking Dead remaster, contrasting favorably with Spooky's transparent reveals.

Key Claims

  • Jason quit his full-time software job that day, effective immediately

    high confidence · Jason speaking directly: 'Two weeks ago I put in my two weeks notice. Today is my last day, as in two hours ago.'

  • Star Wars: Fall of the Empire is boring and unfun, with shots that don't feel good

    high confidence · Jason: 'Star Wars Fall of the Empire is fucking bad... boring... none of the shots feel good.'

  • Costco's Star Wars (Steve Ritchie original) is significantly more fun than Stern's Fall of the Empire version

    high confidence · Jason: 'I would like to shoot that game [Costco Star Wars]... Give me the Costco Star Wars over Fall of the Empire in my house. Easy, easy. It's so, it's not even close.'

  • Beetlejuice by Spooky is genuinely impressive with strong art, sound, and thematic integration

    high confidence · Jason: 'Beetlejuice looks great... The franchise art is second to none... Spooky has put in tons of love into it.'

  • The Walking Dead remaster launch was botched with poor communication and no gameplay footage shown

    high confidence · Jason: 'They basically botched the launch... there was supposed to be a stream. They backed out... their announcement was just like here's this trailer... You didn't tell me what I'm buying.'

  • Video assets and high-quality screen graphics don't make a pinball game good on their own

    medium confidence · Jason: 'video assets, I still don't care... If they would have had all the video assets in Venom, that would have saved that game. They had video assets in John Wick, why didn't that save the game?'

  • X-Men is more creatively shot and has better flow than Star Wars: Fall of the Empire despite X-Men's quality issues

    high confidence · Jason: 'If someone said you have to borrow either X-Men or Star Wars, oh easy actually in my head, X-Men... some of those shots are pretty awesome. The flow is pretty great.'

  • The original Walking Dead cabinet has superior dark, grungy art that sets it apart from family games

Notable Quotes

  • “Is everybody done ejaculating all over Beetlejuice and Winchester? I mean, come on! Let's get back to what's important. Let's shit all over Star Wars.”

    Jason @ opening — Sets the combative, irreverent tone of the entire episode and establishes his contrarian stance on recent releases

  • “I quit my job... Two weeks ago I put in my two weeks notice. Today is my last day, as in two hours ago... And what's the first thing I do? Apparently I want to talk to all of you about pinball.”

    Jason @ ~2:00 — Major personal announcement that frames his motivation and passion for the pinball hobby

  • “Beetlejuice does look great. It, from afar. The sound looks great... Spooky has put in tons of love into it. The franchise art is second to none... I haven't played the game, just like all of you.”

    Jason @ ~8:00 — Acknowledges Beetlejuice's quality while noting the FOMO-driven hype despite not having hands-on experience

  • “Star Wars Fall of the Empire is fucking bad. Just straight bad... It's just boring. I just don't need to ever play it again... none of the shots feel good.”

    Jason @ ~25:00 — Direct condemnation of the Star Wars game's core gameplay mechanics, the most crucial element

  • “Give me the Costco Star Wars over Fall of the Empire in my house. Easy, easy. It's so, it's not even close.”

    Jason @ ~29:00 — Compares unfavorably to the original Steve Ritchie design, suggesting Stern's expensive licensed version is worse than the pre-existing game

  • “Video assets don't matter... If they would have had all the video assets in Venom, that would have saved that game. They had video assets in John Wick, why didn't that save the game?”

    Jason @ ~21:00 — Directly challenges industry assumption that high-quality video and visuals are selling points for gameplay quality

  • “The Walking Dead... they basically botched the launch... You didn't tell me what I'm buying. I'm buying a game with art that I don't prefer? Okay. And there's show assets? Yeah or no?”

Entities

JasonpersonStern PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyStar Wars: Fall of the EmpiregameBeetlejuicegameWinchester Mystery HousegameThe Walking Dead (remaster)game

Signals

  • ?

    product_concern: Star Wars: Fall of the Empire criticized for poor shot design, lack of feel, and boring gameplay despite premium IP license

    high · Jason: 'none of the shots feel good... It's just boring. I just don't need to ever play it again.'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Negative sentiment toward Stern's recent design and communication practices, contrasting with positive reception of boutique manufacturers

    high · Jason repeatedly contrasts Stern's failures with Spooky's transparent reveals and quality execution

  • $

    market_signal: X-Men LE experiencing significant secondary market losses; Jason mentions $5,000 losses and reluctance to hold Walking Dead pro due to remaster devaluation fears

    high · Jason: 'we don't want to lose $5,000 on an LE a la X-Men LE... I've been playing this game for seven months, but I have not because I'm afraid they would tank in value'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern failed to communicate remaster details, gameplay changes, or produce gameplay footage for The Walking Dead remaster, contrasting with transparent reveals by Spooky and other manufacturers

    high · Jason: 'You didn't tell me what I'm buying... their announcement was just like here's this trailer... Just crickets. Not even like, hey, I appreciate everyone's patience.'

  • ?

    collector_signal: FOMO marketing creating rapid purchase cycles and shallow engagement; collectors buying games pre-reveal without hands-on experience

    high · Jason: 'FOMO took over and it's, you know, it's marketing... Winchester's the best... I better buy it... now I got $20,000 invested in pinball'

Transcript

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0:00
Alright, is everybody done ejaculating all over Beetlejuice and Winchester? I mean, come on! Let's get back to what's important. Let's shit all over Star Wars.
0:13
And a little bit of The WalkingDead. And, you know, get back to business. All this positivity about how amazing some of these games look is prompting me to have to record and talk to you all. Hello and welcome to another edition of the Pinball Party Podcast. My name is Jason. It's been 16 years since I've recorded but it's good to be back. It's good to see you all. I can't see any of you and none of you can see me. I did think of recording this with a video but you know I don't know. Look at my face. Look at that. It's a guy. He's wearing a black hoodie. Who cares? But yeah, pinball, it's important. It's important enough to spend a car's worth of money on it. It's important enough to take time out of your Friday to record a podcast about it. This is pointless. In a billion years when the aliens will find all these radio frequencies like in Contact where in the beginning of the movie Contact you hear the audio from deep space goes back to the 90s and 50s and 40s. This will eventually get out there and the aliens will, what the fuck are you doing? What are you wasting your time? Hitting a ball in a I'm a little bit of a pain in the box, huh? Figure it out. Is that what you're doing? But fellow R-tards, I quit my job. Yeah, yeah, I quit my job. And it is amazing. Y'all should do it. I highly recommend it. Two weeks ago I put in my two weeks notice. Today is my last day, as in two hours ago. So, ah, breathe a sigh of relief. And what's the first thing I do? Apparently I want to talk to all of you about pinball. So I've been thinking about it a lot. I'm not sure if you're familiar with this, but I'm sure you've heard it a lot, but man, when you have a full-time job, it just saps the time and the money. No, it doesn't sap the money. It saps the time and the sanity and gives you in return a glorious shit pile of cash. A lot of us work in software and it's a shit pile of cash. Why did I quit my job, you ask? Well, thank you. One, I hated it. You all knew that. This is soul draining and I found a new gig. I'll talk about more of that in the future, maybe when we have Deep Dive Zack back on, because it was a huge, huge thanks to him. 7 A Cincinnati Finally Dance 됩니다.com on in Dinant here. . Ah sellers there's a goodgoing said, about us campus live at Mer Zug Observer. If you want to stop the podcast here and be like, great podcast, that guy, he gets it. That it's a good looking game, just like I was thinking. Yeah, yeah, sure. But but settle the fuck down. It's not the second coming. And by that, I mean, see you M I N G of pinball. It's great. It's essentially because Stern lately has been releasing just dog shit that anything that looks like, yeah, okay, good pinball. And I'm not discounting a spooky fucking Beetlejuice does look fucking Tanya Komirohan.org

high confidence · Jason: 'The original [Walking Dead] looks so much better... it feels like dark and dungeon-y and grungy... they're not afraid to be like, yeah, hey, this is like an adult looking game.'

  • FOMO marketing and rapid hype cycles are creating unhealthy purchasing behavior in the pinball hobby

    high confidence · Jason: 'FOMO took over... it's marketing... everyone, Winchester's the best. Oh, oh my God. Oh my God, I better buy it... now I got $20,000 invested in pinball.'

  • Location availability for new games is severely limiting the hobby's growth for non-urban players

    medium confidence · Jason: 'You either spend an entire day... or you somehow risk overpaying whatever the markup's going to be... You better live in a big city or else... you're going to take a gamble.'

    • Jason @ ~42:00 — Highlights Stern's communication failure on the remaster, contrasting with Spooky's transparency

  • “Walking Dead is just, it's a player's game and man, I just, I don't love it. I'm a fan of the game. I get so angry at it, but when you start smashing it, oh God, she delivers.”

    Jason @ ~44:00 — Expresses the love-hate relationship fans have with the original game and anxiety about the remaster

  • “Just show me a stream. Please describe the differences. I want to see the crossbow work... everyone's basically saying the same thing... hey, we love this game, but are you showing it? What are you doing?”

    Jason @ ~48:00 — Calls out Stern's lack of communication by contrasting with community expectations set by X-Men, John Wick, and other launches

  • “This hobby is fragile at best. So why we get so uppity and angsty about prices and value, it's just going to scrutinizing these games... it's going to just become more and more... you need to like play a game.”

    Jason @ ~17:00 — Reflects on systemic vulnerability of the hobby due to limited access, scarcity, and price volatility

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    Star Wars (Costco)game
    Venomgame
    John Wickgame
    Foo Fightersgame
    Lord of the Ringsgame
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  • ?

    design_philosophy: Industry over-emphasizing theme licensing and visual assets while neglecting core shot design and playability

    high · Jason: 'video assets don't matter... If they would have had all the video assets in Venom, that would have saved that game... It doesn't matter.'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Geographic disparity in game accessibility; regional players unable to test new releases locally, forcing reliance on FOMO purchasing and secondary market pricing

    high · Jason: 'To play these games, you either spend an entire day... or you risk overpaying... You better live in a big city or else I don't know if you're gonna be able to play something'

  • ?

    comparative_analysis: Original/predecessor games (Costco Star Wars, original Walking Dead) rated higher than newer licensed versions, suggesting licensing cost doesn't correlate with design quality

    high · Jason prefers Costco Star Wars and original Walking Dead art to newer Stern versions despite Stern's premium pricing

  • ?

    industry_signal: Spooky Pinball's transparent communication and quality execution (Beetlejuice) creating positive industry contrast with Stern's communication failures

    high · Jason: 'Spooky did it right... here's the game very quickly... Winchester did it right' contrasted with 'Stern, like, read the comments. Everyone's basically saying the same thing... What are you doing?'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Game designer quality (Steve Ritchie vs newer designers) and design philosophy correlating with shot design quality and playability

    medium · Jason: 'Steve Ritchie one is way better. At least shot wise... that game's fun to shoot... hit the ramps hit the horseshoe hit the orbits. Oh, man, that's good'

  • ?

    product_concern: Walking Dead remaster art redesign perceived as inferior; motorized walker and black inserts viewed as unnecessary changes; lack of transparency on gameplay changes creates buyer uncertainty

    high · Jason: 'The original looks so much better... the colors look fucking wrong... they basically botched the launch... their announcement was just like here's this trailer'

  • ?

    community_signal: Community consensus on Pinside expressing frustration with Stern's lack of transparency regarding Walking Dead remaster, requesting gameplay footage and change documentation

    high · Jason: 'go on Pinside... Everyone's basically saying the same thing... we'd really like to see it... even if it is licensed or approved... just say it'

    • 3:42
    Doom. So again, the whole label of pinball, like all pinball is fun. Basically, right? If you're if you drop me or you or your wife, Sally, in a shit pile of pinball machines, you're not going to like, Oh, God, this this is the worst. I'd rather I'd rather be in church. You're not you're not saying that some of you are and that, you know, I guess that's weird not to dog pile or dog shit on religion. I'm going to go ahead and get back to pinball. If you drop us in the middle of an arcade with pinball machines, I'd be like, yeah, this is great. Venom. It's great. Fall of the Empire. It's great. You know what I mean? Like, like I'll play it. I'd rather do that than getting hit in the head with a baseball bat. For sure. That being said, we're valuing these things on, or I should say we are reviewing I'm going to take a life changing amount of money regardless of your wealth, status, Sickitu I'm sorry, you know, Midwest conservative, you know, middle class values help you out long term. We don't want to lose $5,000 on an LE a la X-Men LE and all the other ones. So it's a, you know, anyway, y'all get it. So that disclaimer aside, let's go back to what we're talking about. Beetlejuice looks great. Winchester looks great. But Jesus. Yeah, I mean, Beetlejuice looks great. Beetlejuice does look great. It, from afar. The sound looks great. It looks like Spooky has put in tons of love into it. The Franchi's art is second to none. All these things are very much true.
    6:39
    I haven't played the game, just like all of you. Would I like to own one? I don't know. I haven't played it, but knowing that like, well, I don't really get the chance to because FOMO took over and it's, you know, it's marketing. It's, it's, it's, they're making sales. It's, it's, again, this is not the second coming. I'm going to be great most likely. Mixed with the FOMO and you better buy one, get on the raffle, join Kaneda's thing, watch Don's thing, do all this. Yeah, it's building the hype and then like, right, it's a couple weeks after. It's like, okay, we just got done with this whiplash of Winchester. It was like, get it. Oh my God, it's the talk of the show. Everyone, Winchester's the best. Oh, oh my God. Oh my God, I better buy it. Oh my god, I bought it. Everyone, I bought it. I better post to Pinside, Facebook, everyone. I got one. I got one. I got one. What's... Oh shit, Beetlejuice. Oh shit. Okay, I gotta do this again. Alright, do I wanna... Do I wanna put aside 20 grand for this? Cuz I gotta be part of the hobby. Gotta get this. What if it sells out? Oh my god. Okay, now I got Beetlejuice. Now I got $20,000 invested in pinball. Oh my god. Oh shit, yeah. Oh, it pays. Oh my god, I gotta post about it, talk about it on Pinside. Hey, you wanna trade my Winchester for your Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice for your Winchester? Which one's better? Fuck you, I like this one. Review Rudin Normal Winchester Hotel Bür3 ECCN bisog loos Midtown Digitalin Time to space. I'm going to go ahead and say what you will about Stern's last couple games and I will say what I will about him. You know, at least you have a better chance of getting him in FOMO and that whole marketing thing. To me it's just, it's icky. Maybe I'm too close to it to know how the cookies are made, to know how the sausage is made. I'd like to think cookies because pinball is, you know, a little more cookie like than sausage like, but that's just one guy's opinion. And Winchester, although it's been a few months, You know, Karl DeAngelo being a part of it, huge fan of him just in pinball, period. I've never met him, had some correspondence over email here, there and doing some of that, but love his stream. He's clearly a top tier pinball player, great personality and him designing that game is, you know, awesome. Just awesome. I wish I could say that I went to Expo. I didn't, but let me go back even one more step. The last podcast I did, I believe, I'm pretty sure I said, send in your questions. I'm going to go to Stern and see the Star Wars pinball machine. Dodged a bullet there. Didn't go. But work came up. Well, you start connecting some dots when work invades way too much of your life and time and even pulls you away from the things you want to do.
    9:50
    You gots to go at some point. I actually didn't end up going to the Stern launch Party. Again, thank you for the invite and it sucks I didn't end up getting to go. Socially, it sucks. The game, meh. But anyway, that was the last time I recorded. And I did not go to Expo for the same reasons. Work and just, yeah, life. So I did not get a chance to be part of the Winchester orgy. And conform지도 the This is kind of shipping ish, but they haven't shown shit. God fucking walking that. But Winchester Mystery House, Barrels of Fun. It looks like a barrel of fun. Why isn't that the tag house they used? Winchester's Mystery House. It's a barrel of fun. Maybe from again, I didn't play it. I've seen as much as everyone who's heard it. So if you played it in person, you're listening to someone who knows way less about it than you do. It looks great. It's designed by someone great. Barrels of Fun has made great games. I wish I had more to say other than anything looks positive about it. The theme is great. I love that it an original theme and as a Wisconsinite even cooler So it looks awesome It one of those probably sleeper hits I guess it probably not even a sleeper hit It just is a hit. Looking forward to hopefully playing it. Where am I going to play it?
    11:44
    You tell me. I don't know. I'd probably have to drive three hours maybe to play this game one time. And then what is this happening in this hobby? You know, to play these games, you either spend an entire day to If you can do that, why don't you go out and spend five bucks on a game for a half hour or so and then drive back. Or you somehow risk overpaying whatever the markup's going to be to maybe play this game and you know what I mean? This hobby is fragile at best. So why we get so uppity and angsty about prices and value, it's just going to scrutinizing these games and what's involved is going to just become more and more as the hobby keeps dwindling and being Surprisingly aqui on mainickt Le Bret ankom intes tight entertainments, the I'm going to be a little bit more and more just to like play a game. It could go to an expo or try to find a location near you. You better live in a big city or else I don't know if you're gonna be able to play something. So you're going to take a gamble on some of these games. So the criticism abound and it's going to come. See you when. So I'm jealous and afraid that I won't be able to play a Winchester. Beetlejuice probably the same. This week, ClectinCityBalance.com, As a 80s kid, Beetlejuice was always one of the main movies in rotation with Back to the Future, Star Wars, Goonies, Superman, Batman, you know the movies, the ones we all watched. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, cartoon, He-Man cartoon, a little bit of Smurfs if my sister would watch it, but don't come at me with Smurfs, I'm fine with it, but Gargamel, dude's kind of a bitch. Mixed of morph 묻onite intraneousists John Kaplan uOttawa defiant-2 A crooked I'm assuming someone who works in software can kind of see how, and audio, how that would be done. And I think you might have some, well, with AI, you won't have as much challenges on a location to isolate those voices. But I don't want to talk shit about that. I think it's incredible that you just say Beetlejuice three times to either start the game or do the multiball. I think the stream, the exposure was a little dark, so the lights look a little nuts, but I've only seen that one stream. But the sound, oh my God, what they did is I just let the game speak for itself literally. Yeah. And Spooky did it right. Winchester did it right of here's the game very quickly. Here's what you're going to see. Here's the rules. Here's I mean the price we knew but like here's all the information, you know, I'm really bearing the lead on how much I just want to puke all over The Walking Dead because I love The Walking Dead the game so much. So before I blast that thing to just smithereens and probably still buy one because it's going to have to because it's The WalkingingDead. Oh God, fucking fuck. Star Wars. Here's my opinion on Star Wars pinball at Stern. And I say that because I think the Costco Star Wars is way better than Fall of the Empire. There. Yeah. Way more fun to shoot. That is for sure. Obviously, it doesn't have better sound or better visuals. And you know, the visuals I mean, like, like tongue in cheek, we got all the assets of Star Wars. Look at the screen. Yeah. Most of us have all the assets of Star Wars on our Blu ray or 4k, or MKV or AI. Or if you're a VCD, old school, like, you know, 600 700 megabyte I'm a pinball freak. Not to just because I was. Now it's like, come on, MKV is in 2160p. Dolby Vision, come on, you know, what are we doing here? But most of us have those assets at home and we watch those on a 77 inch OLED or 138 inch CinemaScope projector screen. So to see it on an IPS display on 18 inch pinball, I don't give a shit. Like, of course it's there. How is that a selling point? I'm looking at the pinball table. So the one at Costco doesn't even have video clips, I guess. Kind of. Yeah, a little bit, but I don't care because I'm looking at the pinball machine. And if I look up, it's just for like additional information for the game. So video assets, I still don't care. I think most people don't care, but we hang on to it in this marketing like, oh, yeah, no, everyone expects is oh my god, and the distributors talk about, oh, they got all the video assets. Okay, so you're We're saying if they would have had all the video assets in Venom, that would have saved that game. They had video assets in John Wick, why didn't that save the game? If they would have had the video assets of X-Men the movie in that game, that would have saved it. No, get the fuck out of here. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So, Star Wars Costco is fun as shit. For those who haven't played it, play it. The horseshoe shots, the ramps are fun. It's honestly a really fun game. Tim Steve Richie, Star Wars Stern. Great game. The pro I like better than the premium because that hyperspace loop is janky at best, hides your view at best. It's integrated to parts of the game that are just nothing really to do with Star Wars like hyperspace. It's dumb. It's fine. But you need that Death Star shot so much for so many modes that on the pro it's just a better feeling and more consistent shot. I really don't get the love for the premium and the LE on that. I've owned one twice because I didn't get it. I'm like, I gotta be missing something. I'm stupid, right? Let me get this hyperspace ramp. And I've gotten not all six balls in that loop, but I've gotten a few in the tube.
    19:01
    And it was cool. It shook the game a little bit. But, you know, then I was like, well, let me just go for that mode so I can feel that feature. Because otherwise, I love the horseshoe speed on the pro. Fuck me, so good. Now the three bank tie fighter screen, that shot sucks. Cuz it's not a shot, it's just kinda like, you like momentum in games? Fuck you. Hit the brick. It's like in Sonic where all you wanna do is spin and go real fast and go on these loops, I'm going up and down and go back and- You hit a wall and you're like, you know, it just doesn't feel good, it's that part of Sonic the video game that, eh, stops the momentum, kinda, you know what I'm saying. Subtitjeong and Translationolution by Vitény Baldeis End of Opening
    20:37
    and people don't know like I'm into this thing in the middle while they're looking at those sweatshirts and shitty overpriced socks.
    20:47
    But if you get over all that shit, the fact that it's always broken, the shooter lane switch, it's always busted. So it just clunk clunk clunk. So when it doesn't autoplunge, they're always busted. But who at Costco's going to fix these things? I've even thought of like going up to someone be like, hey, I'm Jason, I can fix your pinball All machine and they'd be like, what? Get out of here, freak. And yeah, rightfully so. But again, you get through all that. The horseshoe shots in that game are great. Both ramps feel great. The three drop targets to get to the left ramp is sweet. Heading the Death Star shot, those usual lights. It's a fucking blast. That game is a fucking blast. It is one of the best things about being at Costco is you get to play Star Wars. One of the I'm going to sit in the middle of Costco and watch the video assets, but I think Star Wars Fall of the Empire is fucking bad. Just straight bad. And by bad, again, drop me in the middle of all pinball machines. Pinball's fun. So a better word is boring. I just don't need to ever play it again. I've played it, I don't know, five times on a pro. There's nothing about it. And although I'm sure the rules are great, I haven't taken time to learn them. The thing that matters almost the most, none of the shots feel good. And the Death Star shot, I've hit it so many times. Clean, dirty, you name it, I've hit it so many times. Upiggers R lan Nachalknique yokedok transmit to K klajyne puppy at Mens n gehance Modelo Tomoffice A 1991 Navalis a masters funnel shit Hurry up You hit that shot and you There it goes Yep! Oh, it just keeps spinning. Sure. Oh! Yeah, no, here I am!
    23:18
    You... Oh! And... done. Okay, cool, let's keep playing. Alright, I hit the desk... doesn't matter. Alright, now I hit the desk... doesn't matter. I guess I'll just hit the center shot over and over and none of the shots feel good.
    23:36
    None of them. None of them. I guess the center shot, but it feels like any center shot, but just and this is no shade to anyone working on the game just like any time like this is but fucking are you serious? I do the Steve Ritchie one is way better.
    23:54
    At least shot wise. I mean code wise the new one I would probably get along. I'd rather probably yeah fuck with the new code more. I mean Ray Day's on it and
    24:03
    He knows how to do shit not the Steve Richie doesn't but the multiplier shit in that game. Is it Dwight who coded that? Not my jam
    24:11
    But at least that game's fun to shoot is to hit the ramps hit the horseshoe hit the orbits. Oh, man, that's good But this one I just yeah It's so boring. It's so boring 8.5. Does it look cool? Yeah, because it's Star Wars. Star Wars poster looks badass. The Star Wars wallpaper on my computer, I don't have, but if I did you know it's just an example looks badass. Star Wars video games badass, because it's Star Wars. Look at a Star Wars coloring book, oh, that's cool. Why? Because it's Star Wars. So the pinball machine, oh that's cool, right, because it's fucking Star Wars. You're serious? Yeah, that doesn't make it a good game. Venom is way more fun than Star Wars, Fall of the Empire, Period. The shots are more fun all day and that game's not great.
    24:58
    X-Men I don't Hmm. So if someone said you had to not buy one, I would never buy either of them. And I say that maybe maybe the code in Star Wars in the future becomes like it rivals The Walking Dead and is like alright I guess I have to just get used to these shots to play that good of a code. I'll eat my shoes, my foot and all that kind of shit and eat my own shit. Sure, if that happens and you know I'm not opposed to changing my mind but I don't see it. That game's not fun. No, that game's not fun at all. But if someone said you have to have, you have to borrow either X-Men or Star Wars, oh easy actually in my head, X-Men. I don't have to think about it cuz I'm like some of those shots are pretty awesome. The flow is pretty great. It's it's it's jank and It's X-Men. I don't need to beat a dead heart, but that is very creative. And in some of the shots when you hit him, ooh, feels real good. And there's some juice in that game. Star Wars, like, I don't. Yeah, give me the Costco. No joke. Give me the Costco Star Wars Overfall of the Empire in my house. Easy, easy. It's so, it's not even close. It's so easy. I would like to shoot that game, even though it's shadow. It's shallow. If it was shadow, that'd be great. Alright, even how shallow it is, it's fun to shoot. Turn, turn the lights off, turn the sound off. I mean, please don't, but I'm just saying, take the theme away, take everything away. The thing you're literally doing using coordination and physics and prediction and all the game of pinball hitting and physics and doing all that and aim. Hmm. That's fun to shoot. Just like how Foo Fighters is one of the best fucking games ever to shoot. I could just play the Costco Star Wars. It's great. Follow the Empire. This week in Pinball, the best IP, so if they made it Lord of the Rings, would I, I guess I'd be a little more inclined to force myself to play it, but not by much, it just doesn't feel, so let's do the world under the glass thing. It's not there whatsoever, of course, other than the art, sure, where like Beetlejuice Christ on a cracker? Is that what it is? I've never said that. I'm trying to get that right. I like that saying if that's what it is. Beetlejuice just like yeah. Perfect. Here I am ejaculating all over it. But yeah, it's definitely a world under glass. I don't know how they got something that loaded at that price point. Maybe because they're a fellow Wisconsin company. They know what the fuck they're doing. Yeah. I got to get down there and visit. I've never met them. I've never been there. I live in Wisconsin for fuck's sake. I don't know what I'm doing. Subtitles by the Amara.org community You know, yeah.
    28:17
    But no, Star Wars is definitely not a world under glass. My God. And I thought like, oh, right. I mean, all you can do is go up from the Steve Ritchie, because although like I like that game, it's it's lacking in like one world under glass. But I more world under glass than fall the empire.
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    It's shit. Uh. I think if all the shots were brought down further, like a black knight sort of rage is a little more Anyway, the stars at cents you scared that kind of aлект важal счелだ bra will arrows to 2240 frames from the same46 in Heros dataset played in theatrearound andverage you know 100, 12�� möchte SBАاءות выск fashionedорəck-еакkolгенса implied comedagger. Question of Parce defending Ос 때� whatszappsmd'iàרczましたidka I will be looking out for Beetlejuice and Winchester more and Harry Potter. He's the guy, I don't know how to say it, walking dead. What are we doing? What are we doing Stern? What the fuck is this? What are we doing? What the fuck?
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    Let's announce it. Okay, teaser, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's show the game. What the fuck is this? What is this?
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    The clown museum, pinball machine, Crayola paints. How działa cleanse ni b가지고 I? xöll 올 바쿬 too x embroidery The very first thing I thought of I'm not you know group thinking or whatever the very first thing I thought of what did you know I?
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    Thought I thought they were actually showing a different game. Yeah, I heard the music and didn't in and I go Oh, why why why'd you do that? I mean the art as far as like the so that's the colors the colors look fucking wrong
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    the art The drawings and the actual character and models and all that fine, but come on Make it black and white if you have to or like Metallica where it was like hey, it's different, but it fits the theme metallica remastered I like both art Packages as they say in metallica equally some days Donnie a little better some days the new one look just great great Walking Dead no contest the original looks so much better And again, not the model, but the color scheme, it feels like dark and dungeon-y and grungy. The first time I played Walking Dead, that was the biggest thing that sold me on it. I'm like, whoa, this is different than all the like super colorful like family game. It's whoa, they're not afraid to be like, yeah, hey, this is like an adult looking game. And it felt like a grown up game because one, it's hard. So kids aren't going to be playing with it too much. In gör Oftentimes youtube
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    Now we got blue and tons of orange pastel orange and red and all these lights. Yeah Yeah, I remember getting multi ball for the first time at then known as tilt pinball first time I ever played the game and I remember I Remember clear as day the red lights flashing as little lyrics to it was on in the back and just yeah again I'm just like, this is wow, it felt so unique and to see this one come out and just take away one of the rules in the game are the best part of it for sure period but to me, like the best initial impression of the game to just take that entire thing away. Like if I was to see this now for the first time, you know, I'd have no context. I'd be like, oh, what's this game Walking Dead? What I get as into it, like the fact that it's a hard game, it's difficult, but if you master it, there's it's such a big payoff because there's so much to it. That is amazing. The code is so good. The rules are so good. It shoots so good. The reason it's being remastered. It's an incredible game. The Walking Dead. I don't know about the new one because I haven't played it, but like the original, it is an incredible game. Period. To anyone who has Gamehamso it is and we've been doing that so the dating team was playing it ultimatelyürüyiii It is thefficial issue camaarigh hecho impshoca paulaidet at the application of a go Dakota it is balder as one of the best for a rea in on a duo moje for fans premium once the outline premium I love the pro nothing I did to make a premium at know it did not like the pre The pro just felt a little more like I don know like a used car that you can beat the shit out of and you never have to worry about anything going wrong The premium vegetative
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    드�on't ask The center button on the premium and LE, the action button for Walker Bombs, etc. Like I didn't even really use them much and it's kind of obtuse of, you know, depending on if you have Prison or Well Walker, what bomb is for what. It's a little vague. I can't even really articulate it right now unless I pause it and look it up, but suffice to say I just did not use Walker Bombs as part of my strategy too much. I did the classic kind of start with the barn or start with the, well, I would always start with Bicycle Girl and CDC and then barn and I wasn't chasing points. I was chasing multi kills so I could get to horde mode because then even better, it's just red lights on the pro and I can't remember what it is on the premium. But to say that on the pro, I loved that all it was was white and red lights. Brandon.
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    Brandon Ju. Nathan Mickel Stock. © All Rights Obs ResAnt Makita Path malfact точ monks & Knappolutica sprichtctl c strongly. Well, I don't want to say they botched the launch, but they basically did. I mean, licensor approval or whatever is going on, there was supposed to be a stream. They backed out of doing the stream for various reasons. I won't get into hearsay, but I think it's more than just licensor approval. I'm not sure if everything was always ready as they hoped, but yeah, seeing the trailer, What? I don't know what I'm doing here. I'm going to do this! It's too all over the place. It's confusing. It's not appealing to my eyes. That they added a motor to, or coiled to the wellwalker. I don't care. What? Why? Whatever! I actually always liked the way that you hit it on the original and it had this thunk kind of sound and it moved back. I never in a million years would I've ever thought that that's something that should be done to that game. Now, is it going to be negative? No, I don't think so, but whatever. The rollover is being changed to black inserts. I can't wait the fuck. It looks it looks bad. It looks bad.
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    But they did add that additional rollover on the tunnel shot, which maybe they'll make the tunnel shot easier, I hope they didn't tweak anything, but I wouldn't know because their announcement was just like here's this trailer. Southern
    39:08
    I'm going to post that, hey, it's on the line. Okay. The only gameplay is from the, that it's on tour right now, like IPAA and those couple of things. And there's some, some potato cam footage. So it sounds like the, the good sound effects are there. Like the, the chambering of the shotgun when you hit the three bank targets, which is great. Cause that's just like when you hit a coin box and Mario, the sound you expect. So that's great. But I have no idea. The rules sounds like nothing has changed, but people are like, yeah, there's all code updates. Like what? No one has any idea. Buy the game. You didn't tell me what I'm buying. I'm buying a game with art that I don't prefer? Okay. And there's show assets? Yeah or no? Or yeah? Okay, they're rotoscoped or yeah, they're CG? Yeah, no? License or approval? Yeah? How much? What do we do? What am I buying with my money? What has changed? Just crickets. Not even like, hey, I appreciate everyone's patience. We're going to get some stuff out to you. Hey, here's I'm John Papadiuk, and I'll see you next week. I'm John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, and I'll see you next week. Walking intéressants.com
    41:38
    I've been playing this game for seven months, but I have not because I'm afraid they would tank in value because you're making a remaster. And now I'm just looking for an old pro because I don't even know what I would be buying. I'm probably still going to buy one, but I, because I, it's my favorite playing game, you know, uh, close, close. It used to be very tied between that Jurassic park and then Lord of the Rings for theme and everything else. But you know, walking dead is just, it's a player's game and man, I just, I don't love it. I'm a fan of the game. I get so angry at it, but when you start smashing it, oh God, she delivers. Oh, she's so good. Just show me a stream. Please describe the differences. I want to see the crossbow work. I want to see people hitting the arena ramp, the right ramp over and over when the crossbow is enabled or disabled to make sure that magnet actually works or not. Mr. Swede at Do²onsmith Start to make sure that the physics regulatoropia Person× With Star Wars and all the other games, people knew pretty quickly what it was. X-Men, John Wick, Guns or Not. Ha, screw it, we knew it. Walking Dead. I mean, go on Pinside. Stern, like, read the comments. Everyone's basically saying the same thing, like, hey, we love this game, but are you showing it? What are you doing? We'd really like to see it, and even if it is licensed or approved, whatever the reason is, just say it. It's cool. I'm not going to be like, oh, figure out your shit. You can't talk to the licensor. Oh, you fucking clowns. That's I don't know. I just think not communicating at all is a mistake, especially on a remake of a game that a lot of people are kind of like, why are you doing this? But everyone else who knows why you're doing it, because like, you know, most people don't get it. Like this fucking game is incredible. Walking Dead is so it is one of the best games you've ever made. That's why we're passionate. That's why we're passionate. So, okay, it is my last day at work. I was done literally three hours ago. I'm going to go enjoy the rest of this first of long many days of not having to work. And hopefully Stern will put something out on Walking Dead soon so I can buy one, so I can buy one from Flippin' Out Pinball. And then I can come back on here and talk about how hopefully how great it is how they changed the bicycle Grow ramp and now it's smooth as hell they improved this on the code which I don't think they need to improve anything on the code honestly nothing I don't don't touch anything on the code and that would be a win but yeah I'd love to come back talk about it how awesome it is how awesome it is to own it And hey, yeah, hey, we got through it. We got through the muck and Stern did this and that. But I'm too antsy. I want to play it. It's Christmas. I got money to spend. All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next time. Feels so good I don't want it to stop. Fingers ripped through the wind. Driving down the coast with my windows down. Letting all the cool air in. You can take your planes all the way down. But you'll find me on the ground with my windows down. Seat back down and the stereo loud enough to hear that bass. Subtitles by the Amara.org community