Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Bud, help! You got some insect pests in your lot there, do you? Uh, Beavis is trying to kick this bug's ass. Well, that's not going to get rid of them. You need some pesticide. Here, follow me. Yeah, the American pesticides don't work anymore because of the goddamn hippie environmentalists, so I drove down to Mexico and got some good old-fashioned DDT. It's getting so Mexico is the only place you can be an American anymore. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Hi. Hi, Bruce. Hi. This is episode 255. We've got news. We've got news. We've got more news. Yeah, we have to address something, Bruce. Something heinous, an anus that happened. It was definitely anus. A heinous anus. A heinous anus. So if you've been following our show, you know we have served final round with the legal papers. Many times. And they continue just ripping us off. And they decided to take that to the next level. Yes, they did. On their latest episode, they basically ripped off every single one of our bits. Except for Zach. They didn't bring on a Zach. No, they mentioned Zach, though. I know, but they didn't bring on one. They mentioned a lot of our other. And the pinball prince. They mentioned. Yes. And Russell Eric, CNY. Russell Erickson. There's three of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like every possible. They went to the Wayback Machine for some of them. They did. I was very impressed with their memory. I mean. And, hey, it only took them 87 episodes, and then they finally got a good one out. Yeah. Pretty much, yeah. I mean, they decided. I actually laughed and enjoyed this one. Yeah, I mean, I took it as an honor. They decided to rip us off. I mean. And it was the best show ever. Congratulations. It was. It only took them how many hosts? How many hosts did it take? They're trying to get to the level of the greatest pinball podcast of all time. Yeah, like how many hosts did it take? Which, of course, is head-to-head. Of course. They got two of the three they need. They just got to get Teolis out of there, and they're all set. Exactly. God, you know, the guy that only wins in Australia. Only wins in Australia. So if you're wondering what the hell they're talking about, in the latest episode of the final round, they literally ripped off every possible thing. They used our theme music, all our bits. They used everything. Everything. Except for Ryan screwed up a couple things. I feel used, Bruce. I feel abused. I feel bigger money in our pockets soon I can't wait once we play this thing in court we're going to be fucking rolling in the fucking Canadian dollars and fucking Australian dollars which means we'll have very little money very little money seriously if you haven't listened to it you gotta listen to it I'm throwing the plug out there I felt honored but Ryan only Ron says dead silence because i don't say it after i do it you got to get that part of the gig dead silence yep there you go but uh yeah um i got nothing else to say i just i don't either except for you know now instead of getting the fake comparison you're going to get back to the real goodness oh yes yes so no more yes no fakeness this is the real deal here this is the original 250 plus episodes the og bro yeah nine years in counting nine years in counting to 10 years what happened when we hit 10 years do i get a walker oh god you'll you'll probably want to do some kind of special bullshit like i probably will something to make me edit a lot oh what can we do you know what's around that time when we our anniversary is it june it's june yeah what's around that time is oh let's stop so the the june the 10th anniversary june stomp spectacular or something oh yeah stomp eight 10 years of these fuckers should we just call it stomp 10 even if it isn't oh that'd be even better fuck up people a lot more fuck up people a lot more yeah we just change the numbers i love it i think that's what apple's doing like ios their i next ios is gonna be like ios 26 so that's gonna be after the year but their their phones are gonna be like what is it iphone 17 i can't i'm on 16 still wow well 17 is coming out i think or 18 i don't know what the hell one they're on i don't have an iphone i do i have a pixel i have a real phone i'm in the google Google it. The Google clan instead of the Apple clan. Well, are you ready to go over? We've got a lot of items here. Well, don't forget, we have to thank our official news statistician, which would be NAP Arcade. Oh, yes, yes. Hi, NAP. I've got a couple things there for NAP. Number one. I have a dress final round. I think we did that. Yes, I think we have. And, you know, the lawsuit will just speak for itself. Lawsuit. Pinball Brothers. Wow. What's this chuckle? You haven't even started saying anything. It's just the way they act. It's just they must not like their distributors, I guess. No. So, okay. Predator. So when they announced Predator originally. Is that from Stern Pinball? You know, the arrest, get somebody arrested 10 years ago. Oh, sorry. Well, you stop. Stop with the Trudeau crap. Sorry, wrong Predator. Yeah, yeah. So Pinball Brothers, yeah, Predator, they said they were going to make like 800 of these. Yes, 800. I found the interview. They said. It was originally around 800 is what they said. Well, 800 became 150. Yeah. Because they said 150 more, but how many have they made so far? Like 20, 10? Yeah, so I'm thinking probably it's going to stop at probably 300. That's what I'm saying. Wait a minute. So you think they made $150 already? No, I bet you they have sales of $150. Well, let's explain. What they said is they're going to sell direct to you from someplace in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. And basically no tariff and no overseas shipping cost. Yes. So basically just what it costs to ship to you. Yep. And they said it's like $11,999. It's like $12,000. Which the original price, I thought, was like $10,999. Yes, it is. So it's $1,000 more for whatever. Yeah. And then they said, we're only making these to the end of the year, and we're only making $150 more. So I have a question. There's a lot of questions I have for this. Oh, God. Okay. Yes, here we go. Number one, are they selling to the end of the year, or are they making? Now, the way they say it, making, what if they sell out at 150 on, let's just say, optimistically, October 1st? Okay. So if somebody comes in on October 15th and says, I want to buy this, are they going to say, ooh, we'll throw one more on the Barbie? Or are they going to say, fuck no, we don't want your money? That's where it's very… Interesting, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Wrong how they stated this. I didn't think of that. Yeah, that's exactly what came to my mind first off the bat. Like, you say you're making only 150. If that's what you're saying, then it should have been said as, we're going to. Here's their exact amount. This is from them, from the horse's mouth. Yep. Here's the inside scoop. Only 150 predator units remain. Okay. And once they're gone, they're gone forever. Okay. So it's not really the date unless they don't expect to sell 150 machines in four months. Production ends December 31st as we update our license agreements and clear the way for our next big titles. Yeah, next big title that you've had three turds in a row. And they said, wait a minute, three turds? Alien is their biggest seller. Queen. Yeah. Predator. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, it's Queen Abba. So you're saying Predator is a turd even though you haven't played it or anything? Well, guess what? If you cut your production numbers all the way down to nothing, you've already written off this game. This is almost like American Pinball writing off their stuff. Oh, and by the way, no more aliens either. They're stopping them at the end of the year. They're one game that actually does sell. Sell and actually makes them money. Let's just cut it all out and let's just bring back something else. Let's bring back that motorcycle game they used to have. Oh, God. That was Highway. What the hell was that called? I actually didn't mind that. I didn't mind it either. I liked the crisscross ramp and everything. What was it? The French guy or whatever? It was the villain, and he makes fun of you. What the hell was the name of that game? Bad Game Bad. Oh, that's so sad. I don't know. Yeah, because it's not rememberable. It's not rememberable or memorable. It's not. Yes, yes. Not rememberable. Not rememberable at all, because you can't remember it either, can you? No, I can't. There you go. But the thing is this. You're now taking away the only machine you made money on. And you're now pinning your hopes on this next game. What, after Predator? After Predator. Or after your 150 machines more sell. And you really are just hoping on this one. You better be praying that's a great title that's going to sell a ton. because everyone thought Predator was going to be great, and when you don't get the licensing, you don't get the other stuff right, you kind of fucked yourself. Full throttle. That was the name of the thing. Full throttle. That was it. That's what they're taking. And, yes, I did have to look at, oh, they're taking the full throttle? They're taking the full throttle because they have just fucked up all their marketing things. Well, what happens if you're a distributor? Like the distributors for those. Well, guess what? You already got your sales. Distributors were going to have to – you're going to have to pay for the tariffs, and you're going to have to pay – what was it? $500 flat shipping to get it from here to the U.S., and then whatever the actual shipping was to get it to you. So here's the worst part. So you're going to get it direct because none of the distributors are going to be able to match the direct price. Okay, so now you literally just – You just fucked over all your distributors. Not even that. You actually fucked over yourself because now you're saying, oh, I got 150 more machines to sell. Now these people back at it from the distributors and they buy the game from them directly. They've already planned maybe 300 or 400 more games, but they already said, I'm selling 150 more. That's it. What do you do now to distribute the distributor allotment? You have to cut that back or do you make the distributors buy them? I think it wasn't selling, and this was their last-ditch effort. Oh, of course. It was not selling at all. To use FOMO. Like, you have to get this down. We're only making this many. We're not making any more. You know what people are saying? That's it. You know what people are saying? Okay. Thanks. We'll wait for your next one. Sorry. I would assume it's going to be at Expo, and that will probably be the one and only time I'll get to play it. So, but like I said, originally, They said they were doing 800. So how do you go from 800 to 150? Unless they think they sold 650 already. No. No way. No. No way in hell. No, they're saying only 150 units remain. So there's no way. That means they sold 650 of them. They're already gone. No way. No way. Where are they? Europe? I don't think so. No. No. No. Unless Arnold bought all 649 and then one other person has it. I give them out as potty gifts I mean it's nice you're eating the tariffs and all but because it's the only way to get rid of your original inventory that's the problem that's exactly what the problem is this game will be probably the second rarest besides Queen or maybe ABBA because I haven't seen an ABBA on location at least I've seen Queen so you know I thought you were going to say second rarest next to the original Predator yeah Well, that's not from them, so this will be the second rarest, or maybe the third rarest, because, you know, full throttle, I think they only made like 150 of them also, if I remember correctly. Since you were looking it up, tell me the quantity numbers. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, what the fuck? Well, why don't you look it up? I have like 10 windows open here trying to keep this thing under control. Take off the fucking Pornhub, Ron, and fucking get on the game for the pinball show. Well, I make sure it's in a different tab. Oh, I don't want to say pinball show. I don't want to say pinball show because that means we are copying somebody else. We'll copy someone else. We'll get sued. This is a pinball show. It's a pinball podcast. Yes. All right. Right under that on my list, I have, since talking about tariffs, Multimorphic had an interesting Facebook post today. They did. where they were explaining the tariffs and how they're affecting them, where basically a ton of their parts are from China, and how much more it's going to cost. And basically, as of right now, they're basically going to eat it. Just eat it. Just eat it. But that's not going to be sustainable. That's the thing about the tariffs. The whole idea is, you know, get the stuff to be made in the U.S. But number one, that's just not going to happen to a lot of industries at all. And even if it was, it's going to take years to get up to speed. You know what I mean? I know what you mean, Jellybean. No production numbers for Full Throttle. But I say check out Multimorphic's post or Facebook post. Let's see. What else do I have here? Yeah, so we talk about tariffs again? I'm allowed to talk about tariffs? You can talk about tariffs. but uh yeah no it's just uh it's gonna get it's gonna get worse before it gets better and i wonder i wonder how much spike three will get affected by it i'm expecting a price hike for this new machine which we'll be talking about but yes we will i i think i'm already screwed by tariffs because i have a couple blu-rays i got from germany yeah yeah yeah yeah They should have been shipped by now, but I think there's an issue because – DHL is having – they're stopping most shipping. They're stopping – yeah, like European Postal Service is basically, in certain countries, is not going to ship to America. Yeah, because they're afraid they won't get their money. Because they had some kind of tariff exemption or something that just expired. Yep. So now some of them are just straight up like, no, we don't ship to the U.S., sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I think I'm out some money, honestly. I don't think I've ever seen any of that shit. Unfortunately. You'll see it. You just complain to Facebook and you're good to go. Who am I going to complain to? Their German support crew? Like, sorry. Yeah, don't understand you. Yeah. What did you buy them from? They're bought from Germany. I know, but from eBay or from? No, no, no. Okay, so credit card time. Well, they were bought like months ago. That's the other issue. Yeah. Yeah. The other issue is they would have been shipped weeks ago, but there was delays with – there was a whole thing. So what else do I have here? A new con code came out. King Kong. And I didn't realize there's like 173K. Yeah, I love that number. Total in there somewhere. I just had to – I made a note. I had to bring that up because that's for 9-Ball. Yes, it is. The game that Zach hates and we love. Yeah, Zach hates and we love and people shit on. It's like, Elwin likes it, or at least he took that from it, so screw all you people. It's great. Nine ball rules. Steve Kirk is gone. Well, it is great. Gonna have the whole world on a plate. Starting here. Starting now. Yes. You love your Ethel Merman from Airplane. I love Airplane. That's why. Fucking Airplane rocks. But yes, 173K is meant for all you Stern Electronics fans out there. As soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, it's like the guy on those memes from, oh, like the guy, what's his name? DiCaprio on the chair, like, oh, in his head, like pointing at the TV. I pointed at my screen like, 173, 173. Oh, from, what was that? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Yeah. That was so boring. That was a bad movie. It was boring. But a lot of good memes out of it. I mean, it had a great ending. I mean, but it was just, it took a long time to get there. Yeah. What else we got? So we have American Pinball News. Who? That's right, baby. American Pinball. I might not be there anymore, but I'm there in spirit, baby. The American Dream of American Pinball. No, you're not. Sorry, Dusty. Oh. Dusty. Sorry. But we've changed our names. Well, number one, it looks like they let American Pinball expire. They might have renewed it by now, but they had let the trademark for American Pinball expire. And there were some posts I saw that, like the emails they were getting to renew it, they weren't getting because they were going to a mailbox and no one was checking. I 100% believe that, by the way. I've seen that happen. so I wouldn't be surprised if they were going to like Dave Fix's email address or something and yeah no one sees it now listen baby that's right baby these renewals ain't happening baby because I'm not there no they've trademarked another name called Orbit Games what do we think of that name it's not terrible yeah would you rather call it super orbit games yeah that'd be better no it's okay you know there is an orbit in pinball so orbit pinball you know well supposedly it's you know they're doing stuff other than pinball so it's more to be more generic amusements i would think it'd be better if you said orbit amusements and that makes it sound like cheesy which they are so again will we ever see cuphead no told you yeah yeah i i think i'm right again bruce on this one i just say it i don't remember what my original opinion was i'd have to go back but i don't think we're seeing that thing i mean i thought we would have seen it by now I mean yeah it's been a dead period too this would have been the time and nothing this company had so much positivity for it four years ago and had to ruin a company in a couple years just watch the video of American Men Ball god fucking bam yeah it's just sad because they had good people there i'll see you oncoming there we go and they fucked it up i gave you a nice company and you fucked it up yeah fucked you up we had deep pockets we probably had the deepest pockets out of all the all the companies uh even more than uh deep root i bet you they did because deep root just had to steal from more old people to get the money that's right brother we stole from a big time dude oh i miss doing that uh I know. Now we're not going to have anything. Who else could be Hulk Hogan? He's come back. Who could he come back as? All right. Don't worry. We'll have another manufacturer fucking around in a couple months, and we'll be laughing about them. So speaking of other manufacturers. Yeah. Chicago Gaming. Yay. Finally making Medieval Madnesses. Yes, the whatever edition it is now. And maybe one day that kit for Cactus Canyon will finally come out. Yeah, finally. I think it was supposed to be out this month. Did it actually come out this month? It was supposed to be June, and it went to July, and now it's soon. Did it come out? Okay. Soon. Spooky, they just started a pre-order for you can buy a shotgun handle for any of their games with the launch button. How much do you think it would cost? $199. 450 dollars holy fuck but it's real wood and metal wow great so then when I bump into it when I go around the corner it sticks way out oh yeah another one went down Bob oh shit he's really he's coughing up blood look at that guy I mean it looks really good but even me was like no way I thought about it that guy's got getting back up for at least 10 minutes he's coughing up blood and everything I think he lost a nut on that one I put it in my car it'll fit and you close the back what did that hit you hit the shotgun handle let me put my shotgun handle on my Rick and Morty or my Scooby Doo yeah it's supported they even have it on their site that would be so weird Why would I want it on those other games? Scooby boom where are you Ruh You dead on the side of the road So instead of capturing the bad guy you fucking shoot him and i would have gotten away with it holy fuck i mean it fits for evil dead but i mean man for all these other games all these other games And I'd say Halloween, but that actually had a manual shooter. Yes. Actually, it had the knife. Rick and Morty, you know, hey, we're going around the world, Bruce. We don't need no teleporter between domains. Alice Cooper. I don't have to worry about any of those monsters. I got a fucking shotgun. I'll just shoot them. Fuck you, assholes. Jesus Christ. $450. So even Ron, who doesn't like guns, but likes mods that are tastefully done. Oh, I love guns on games. Come on. At least two up in threes. One of my favorite games ever. Come on. It's not even really a gun, though. It's not as a gun like... Okay, Dirty Harry. Dirty Harry and... Fucking Magnum on it. Yeah, and what else? Terminator 3 actually had a gun thing there. Yep, and Shadow. Shadow, yeah. But the game that had guns in it, which was John Wick, doesn't have a gun. Doesn't have a gun. Well, just in the video. But not on the game anywhere. I know. You've got to love it. I want someone to sell a topper for John Wick. It's just a big gun. No, I want somebody to modify the spooky shotgun and put it on John Wick. Okay. It's just John Wick has a shotgun. There you go. I got a shotgun. Right? That would fit more in the motif. But the thing is, I know a lot of people are going to buy it. Oh, of course they are. 100%. We have stern news, Bruce. Big stern news. I think we called it last week or two weeks ago, didn't we? Well, before we get into that, we saw our first look at Spike 3. Yes. Looks like Spike 2. We saw our first look at Spike. That was totally bad. It looks like Spike 2. Well, it says Spike 3 on it. Yes. So basically Spike 3 is in the Costco Star Wars games that are out right now. Yes. But it also will be in the upcoming, what's it called? Fall of the Empire. Star Wars Fall of the Empire. We got a 21-second trailer today, and they gave you the name. Yeah. Very underwhelming. I even think the graphic was kind of... No, it's based off the original... Empire Strikes Back. No, it's not even that. It's based off of the figurines. If you look at the old figurines from Kenner, that's how they used to do it. The Star Wars around it, and then the name in the middle. Yes, but that's based off Empire Strikes Back. I know. It's probably going to be Empire Strikes Back. The Empire Strikes Back logo. Which is the best movie, so... Well, no, it's going to be whatever you just said it was. What's it called again? Empire... Fall of the Empire? Fall of the Empire. But it's got to be based off of? The original trilogy. Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe it's like a future. Everyone is saying the original trilogy. Like everyone. I have not heard a single dissenter. So I'm going with original trilogy. Besides, they want to actually sell them. So we actually have our fourth pinball machine based off the same IP. It's more than four, isn't it? you got empire strikes back star wars data east star wars trilogy because you gotta go all three hold on star wars the um episode one that i don't count that one star wars no it's it's star it's episode one no i'm talking about if you're going by the trilogy like you always say okay the only true star wars yes yes it's the fourth pinball machine based off now a trilogy. John Borg's second attempt. Yes. He did the Data East one. He did. Are you excited? If it plays like the 92 one, I'll be very excited for it. If it doesn't have a stupid fucking button in the middle or multipliers, I'll be even... I will be doing backflips. Well, number one, we know it's going to have a button in the middle. Now, whether it has multipliers... I'm talking about multiplier shit. Yeah. I can't... Make the game fun. Don't make it as stupid. I don't see if it's going to be able to reach the level of the masterpiece that Steve Ritchie did. And Dwight Sullivan. The great Star Wars. What a great game. What was the thing I read? Oh, you're serious? It was on Nap Arcade. Hi, Nap, again. You're serious? Yeah, I'm serious. They said something like 700-something LEs. That's the rumor. so like what do you think about that? $799 plus half of one having less LEs what do you think about that? don't worry in another five years they'll re-release it and they'll make it even a shorter run of a premium well let me think about this in two years it'll be was it 50? yeah it'll be 50 years of Star Wars so in two years you'll be able to get a rare premium 50th anniversary only available for this year. Only available this year. It's got a 50th anniversary. It'll be black and white. Okay, to be fair, Jaws was not black and white. I know, but you know. Hey. So don't go for the LE. Who gives a shit about the LE? Get the premium. Yeah, get the real LE. The premium with the different art. Exactly, and then you'll make more money out of it, you know. I just... It's just... We don't need another Star Wars pinball machine. We really don't. Well, I don't know. Locations might disagree because as much as you hate it, it still sells a ton. It's still Star Wars. I am just sick of Star Wars at this point. It's another. Say it. Say it with me. Well, cash grab. No, it's to make profit. That's what companies are supposed to do. Yeah, but you don't think people love Star Wars. Disney went, hey, we'll sell another fucking Star Wars license to you idiots. Not a problem. Mandalorian, you suckers. I'd love to know how that went with licensing. Remember, they had all the issues with the licensing for the original Star Wars, especially with the topper and all that. I feel they've got to be great to deal with, the good old people at Disney. Oh, by the way, did I mention I hate Disney? Yes, yes, you have. I can't remember that a little bit. Hey, all my stuff I said about them has been proven as they just destroy franchise after franchise. Hey, don't worry. For the past 10 years, they've just been saying, we don't want men. Now they're realizing that men are the big spenders. And now they're going, hey, we want men back. Yes, we destroyed all your franchises and killed off all the characters you like. So now we want you back. Yeah, we want you back so you can spend more money. What the fuck are you thinking? This is an actual thing from Disney. Yes. Now we have to come up with new IP because we ruined the IPs we bought. And everything we put out new sucks moose balls. That's why Stern wasn't going, well, let's make the new trilogy. Let's do that. Like, no. Oh, God, no. Fuck no. Fuck you. Did you know the Emperor's still alive? What? What? What? He got thrown down a fucking shaft. And exploded. And reactor. Fucking exploded. Never mind that. The Death Star he was in blew up after that. I know. No, I jumped into the shuttle and took off. Oh, yeah. Millennium Falcon. No, no. When he blew up, that stuff coming up, that was actually his space ghost or force or whatever. And he escaped through the air. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. you fuck nuts i mean it's a new game so i'm looking forward to it i'm curious to see what they do yeah how it how bad they compare i can't wait to see how bad they ruin oh you're so mean it's the truth okay if they have fucking multipliers in it i'm just gonna go pound on fucking stern's door of my head why why why because they're great no they're not multipliers are awesome no they aren't hold on hold on no no they aren't no they are banging my head against the fucking microphone thanks that'll screw up the edit fuck me god all right stern go with the go with borg feel the borg feel the flow so feel the double in lane um yes maybe i'll have a I don't mind that. Rotating R2-D2 again. Oh, please. Anything would be better than an exploding eggshell. Can we have a really bad C3 Vampers and air shoot the Death Star? It's better than the getaway thing that you hit when you get an airball. Getaway thing you hit when you get an airball? Yeah, and the premiums and the LEs, if you get an airball in that thing, you're hitting the ramp that's doing the getaway, frigging magnet shit. So bad. Oh, you mean the supercharger? Yeah, the supercharger. the getaway thing it's just oh oh i destroyed the death star let's see this big oh look this fucking shell opened up and it has flashing lights inside wow okay what do you want it to do break into like six different pieces no but get a tv screen like like you know and have the video of it it does have the video of it blowing up oh but that's above that's why even then why even have a fucking uh ostrich egg on this thing ostrich egg it's a fucking ostrich egg it's mothra's egg a lot of a lot of ostriches died for these plants it's a trap it's a trap it's a trap oh gee i wonder if vader's gonna be in this game oh gee i wonder if you can use ai to make him say whatever they want. Well, for sure, Hayden's still alive, so he'll tell us all the good stuff about it because, guess what? What's his name still alive? No, James Earl Jones died, didn't he? Yeah, but remember, his family signed over the rights to his voice. Exactly. So they should be able to put him in the game. Yes. Custom call-outs. We'll just get Hayden to play it. Hayden? Hayden? Hayden Christensen? Yeah! Why? He's from the other trilogy. No, he is the original Anakin. No, he's not. No, he's totally not the original Anakin. It's the other old British actor dude. No, they changed it. I saw this new Star Wars where he was popped in and the old guy's gone. That old fucking guy next to Ben Kenobi and Yoda was gone. That was just Christopher Hayden. None of those movies exist in my world, so I'm fine. Poor Ron. He's just like, I hate fucking Lucas. I hate fucking Disney. Yeah, I do. They ruin everything. But I have the original trilogy in its original form. That's all I need. I'm happy. I have the Indiana Jones trilogy. That's right. Because there's no other movies. It's trilogy. It's four. Three. It's three. Don't say four. Fuck you. I don't even count two much into it. You know, Temple of Doom was way better when I was a kid. Watching it as an adult, it's like, it's not terrible, but it's not as good as the other two. It's so gimmicky, and you get to see he was just there for the cash grab. He really was. He was not into it that much. It's still entertaining. Come on. Here you go. Here's what I love. All around will rule the world. Like Raiders of the Lost Ark, you had a guy get set on fire, shot in the face, full frontal shot showing the guy get shot in the face. You had another guy's head explode, guy's face melt. you had a guy go into a propeller and shopped up rated PG yeah I loved it yes what's wrong with that although Temple of Doom PG-13 yeah I know because of the monkey brains and guys getting their hearts ripped out that probably was also and kids being slaves oh yeah I did think of that all the kids were slaves yep he no nuts he crazy he crazy Oscar winner short round the Oscar winner uh you know what movie i know what tv show i really like to see as a pinball machine now okay peacemaker you probably have never seen that episode uh no with john cena so he's already been on one pinball machine so this would be number two he is fucking awesome in peacemaker peace a lot of violence a lot of good stuff uh let's see peacemaker oh yeah is that james gunn Yes, it is. It is James Gunn. Okay. It is. And I swear to God, the second season just started. Sean, see ya! He is fucking awesome in this fucking show. He's so stupid it's funny. That's how good it is. Okay, that's good. That's his gimmick in the show. His gimmick is he's stupid. Oh, he is. They actually called him that in the second season, first episode. They're like, how stupid is this fucking guy? Oh, God. this guy because they're interviewing him after uh superman did you see the new superman or no god no you don't believe it no no see in my world there's there's one superman that's the richard donner superman that's christopher reeve and that's it is that him after the wheelchair or before that would be before the wheelchair for christ's sake he wasn't handyman that's another superhero so he wasn't really that super then am i right or wrong it's like there's a movie called uh the indestructible man where he gets like killed in the end and it's like uh that didn't work that was a mystery science theater and they're like they should have retitled this somewhat resilient man yeah i always made me laugh i'm sorry um okay back to pinball back to pinball i have this this was on our facebook this is from neil he uh put in a clarification for the uh when pinball was on espn the ocho the ocho we didn't know what the format was because we're totally not prepared so he's letting us know what the format was so he says the format for the espn pinball was you had to reach the target score of 40 million on uncanny x-men in the lowest time if you went over five minutes or drain three balls, your score was recorded at that point. They started with eight players, then a round of four, then a round of two to determine the winner. It was played back with players playing side by side. Actually, it's a slide by side. But actually, they all played on the same game. Also, they must have just edited it so it looked like that. It was a very short tournament for those who got knocked out after one play, but it seemed like a reasonable and presentable format when edited for 30 minutes of television. There you go. And what did they win, Bob? Oh, I don't remember. I don't know either. But, yeah, if you're going to do something on TV, it's got to be time-based. There's got to be some kind of time limit. Yeah. All right. Hey, why didn't the ball go all the way around in your uncanny X-Men? I don't know, Bob. It sucks. Well, the plunge isn't really working, is it? Now, people were stating this in another – like, oh, you know, if your game doesn't go around properly, you know, that's the person who set up – no. A lot of these fucking new games, the Uncanny X-Men, did not work out of the box, and some still don't after the mod fix. And the pinball show said, I have not heard many people complain about this still. Holy fuck! So you have. This fucking thing still sucks. Okay, how many people have you heard complain about it, Bruce? A couple. A couple? Yes. No, a couple. A couple who still can't. A whole two. No. Okay. Like five or six. Okay, that's a few then. A couple is two. Yes. Okay, a few. And they still have problems shooting it around. Okay. And you ask somebody a certain, like, did you put the mod kit in? Yes, we put the mod kit in. Okay, have you tweaked and tried to play with the mod kit? okay you're selling me at a seven thousand dollar junk box the nine thousand dollar junk box and you want me to play with it that's what most people are going to say to a manufacturer yeah i want to play the game yeah yeah exactly not try to get the ball around fucking all the way around the orbit and maybe try to do something or let's fix our rules to fix the bad problem that we had okay okay let's try to be more positive here as we talk about positive shit it's tournament time tournament time everyone hates tournaments they do death ball they would love this one oh god i was so exhausted 19 rounds of awesomeness where you play every other player yes head-to-head battles on two different games and to make sure it moves along only one of them can be a modern game. Yes. So hopefully you were smart and just picked two old games and made everyone happy. Yes. I tried to do that. I actually ran out of the short games. It wasn't long in shorts. Yep. And we got to play a very eclectic collection of games. We got to play four different spookies. God, that was bad. I don't... Did anyone pick Scooby-Doo? Yes. A person against me did. Okay. I didn't see people on that at all. Eric Russell did. Okay. CNY? Fuck you, Eric. Okay. Scooby-dooby-doo. I eat poo. I eat poo. I sniff and lick it all day. Why does Shaggy have me eating peanut butter off of his man junk? Oh, God. That's disgusting. thing oh yeah so that was a long fucking ass tournament because we started what at 10 30 and finals didn't start until 8 or 7 45 yeah something like that but i did get to see ron and ron did you get your head i mean i liked it did i get my head well i don't i don't hold on we'll get to that get my head um but a splendid time was had by all a tradition now august no i yelled him saying I'm not doing this for another two years after this. Oh, yes. Yeah, I heard you only threatened to quit once. Only once. Only once. That's pretty good, folks. Because I was fucking dying. I was like, it's round 14. And I'm like, oh, my fucking God, it's 5 o'clock. I was watching you play the girl. And I was like, man, if he loses, like, he's just going to quit. Is it true? Is it true? What? I didn't quit. I played. Would you have quit? No. No? No. I was way worse. The middle. In the middle, I just died. And then I think towards the end, everyone else is getting exhausted, so I actually played, you know, people played worse. I'm saying the girl because I don't want to say her name because some people don't like, you know, kids' names being said and all that stuff. Yeah. I finished fifth. Where did you finish, Ron? In the middle somewhere. Oh, yeah. I finished the last four games killed me. I was 0-4. That pretty much knocked me out. I had an 0-8 run in the middle. Wow. Yeah. Well, you definitely were good at Demoman, though. Oh, fuck yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, holy shit. I love Zach's Demoman. Zach's Demoman plays one of the nicest. Steroids, man. It's the roid man. Fucking first ball, I had 1.4 million. Yeah, exactly. I got only one. I only play one multiball. But I got the super jackpot four fucking times. I didn't know that the super jackpot goes left and right orbits also. Yes. What else was I going to say about that? Oh, so he did this thing in the last round that the same thing the Sanctum does. Sanctum does, which I like. That was actually really cool. You're in a group of four. Yep. And whoever wins out of the group, you get paid. So you get money. I like that. So I got paid. I got paid. So that was nice. uh congratulations to mike geis mike geis first big win for him pete and second robin third and eric russell the legend himself and fourth welcome to the club mike of the death ball winners yes yes he's holding i'm looking at the picture on the uh but his ball is a lot smaller than my ball was they're heavy balls though they're heavy balls mine's really heavy then swollen my prostate They must really be hating life. Oh, God. Must always go down to that level, doesn't it? Oh, of course I do. But, yes, fun time. I'll be back. Can't wait for the next Death Ball. I can't wait to play so many spookies and so many weird-ass games, most of which I like. I actually think – I will say one thing. I like all the eclectic games except for the fucking Love Bug. I hate the doodles. I love Love Bug. I hate El Toro. El Toro is terrible. Oh, El Toro was cool. No. This is the Williams-El Toro. The Williams-El Toro. It's cool. You've got to get the jackpot. Which is just as bad. No. You've got to get the jackpot. You've got to hit that lit drop target. I know that. That's the jackpot. I know. But the problem is, the first two games I played in it, I flipped once. Yes, yes. Yeah. And then I just played it every round in between, and I got better at it. And then somebody picked it at the end towards me, and then was surprised that I did so well. Because I kept on fucking playing it. Uh-huh. uh i will say best jjp shooter i will have to say it's wonka that fucking playing plays really fast it was for sale were you gonna buy it no it was wait it so dark i know it is dark and especially when it next to that with that uh screen door It so bright there and it so dark I was like having problems But for those at home his Wonka and Scooby is for sale So if you'd like to inquire. Yes, Scooby-Doo, sell that thing. Please, take it away. He's tried to do everything to get rid of that. I know, add the shotgun to it. Oh, that's it. He needs to add the shotgun mod to it. $450 and boom, instant sale. It will sell. It will sell instantly. It would be funny if they put an added mode into every new game that they sold the shotgun for. Don't give them ideas. You have a flipper code, and there you go. You can start. I think they might listen. I know they did at one point. Think about that. They're listening to us. That's scary. Yeah, I know. It is. Well, I am a customer, a multiple-time customer. Actually, you're a customer. A multiple-time. A one-time customer. No, multiple. Yes. Rick and Morty. Yep. And what? And I own part of that Scooby. Oh, that's right. Oh, God. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah, I know. But I am a multiple-time buyer. You're going to be soon. Mm-hmm. By the end of the year. Yeah, by the end of the year, you hope. I'm thinking I might just set it up in the living room and not have to try to get that thing downstairs because that thing's going to be just a pain in the ass. And I don't know if the topper was going to fit. I have to do some more measuring, but if it does, it's literally going to be touching as it goes up. Hey, did you know I played once in Australia and I won? Yes, yes, Teolis. Did you? Yes. I was not aware you were even in Australia. Oh, no, I won it, though. Okay. Okay. I'm not allowed to talk about it, you know, because, you know, I made a promise. The other big tournament that happened was the Northwest Pinball Championships. Yes. So I got that right here for – so this is – All the youngins were there. Yeah, all the youngins were there. So you know who won most everything. I have to say Escher has this new look where he's got like – what is it, a fisherman's hat? Yeah. Is that what that's called? I think it is, yeah. It's full Aussie mode. But I really like Jason Zoller's new look. He looks like a retiree from Florida. he's just got like the hawaiian shirts on he wore every day i think new gimmick screw the stupid hoodie it's trying for hawaiian it's hawaiian shirts what did i wear at the beast every day he's copying fucking me oh he's copied but he's copying me and he had a red one on the last day so he should do that wear red on the last day so he could be like tiger woods you know he's just you know but no i i who wore what did i wear at the beast every day uh hawaiian shirts okay all right so folks i did it beforehand i'll do this quickly uh women's finals uh won by max stewart then we got the classics finals were won by escher and the i don't know what this meant charity finals it was just just for charity um i guess Raymond Davidson won. David Raymondson? David Raymondson won. Nice. And then in the main open finals, it was Jason Zahler beating Zach McCarthy in a playoff. Playoffs? Playoffs? On Mandalorian. So they both played Mandalorian, Bruce. And Jason was player two and did not have to play his ball three. How long do you think the game was? 58 minutes. 34 minutes and 57 seconds so that's not too bad that's not if he had to play the third ball it might have been worse and I think on F14 one of the players turned it over they got like 10 million and they had like the multiball setting set to the hardest thing you can possibly have and all that so they matter it does not matter it doesn't matter and the last item I had here is Spider-Man is back as you were stating earlier my backbox has returned it's repaired got my backbox back from Vance Vance did a great job this is very convenient because he's only 15 minutes from Zach's house so stop by pick that up it's sitting right I can see it in the other room right now reassembly time oh yeah it's going to be fun I took a ton of pictures and I'm going to need them. Yeah. Not looking forward to that. Maybe if I have enough time, maybe it'll be ready for stop. Well, no, we want you to more worry about the games downstairs. Well, yeah, that's still some of the priority. Since you did the picture of you working on some games downstairs. Yep, I'm up to Stargazer now, which that took way longer than anticipated because I finished up, played like a little test game. that left sling just isn't sensitive it needs to be screw with that for a while oh you screwed with it alright I had to use the red stuff my contact clear to bring the switch back so it's more sensitive I used that this week too then as I do another test game the left rollover left in lane rollover I guess you would call it in lane left pocket rollover stopped registering or was not registering frequently enough oh so we're into repairs now so i had to clean that too oh that was it okay all right are you ready for the ball bag no i'm still doing my repairs now oh also we're doing repairs now we're doing repairs okay we'll do repairs uh since we know how to do repairs unlike some other people uh ryan c can repair come on sometimes he calls me sometimes for help He knows how he calls when he needs help. And Jeff, that guy, we're lucky he can put a key in a freaking keyhole. Love you, Jeff. So, yeah, my repairs. Dragon Fist went all wacky. It had a ground row short, and I think some of the switches were way too tight. We were actually touching, and it was going through the other way. uh wait a minute some of the switches were touching and it was going through the other way don't switch it was like continuing like it wasn't you know on some switches you it doesn't you know it doesn't keep on firing giving you scores it was just so close and i think we had a bad diode in there because i think i found one that was broken and uh i had to use all the the the red stuff to clean my switches up because some of them were not registering even close and i had readjust a ton of them but now i think it's happy hopefully be happy because it's back at my house i'm uh i'm gonna be hosting league for the western new york pinball league so i have to get at least 12 games downstairs so this will be number six i have to it's in the garage right now hosting hosting how nice yep hosting pinball have they announced any hosts for the the state finals yet uh they're still in talks but uh we're in the running let's just say that oh so uh new york state we're hopefully going to be hosting that's what i'm hoping for i think that'll come out soon okay for rachacha in january you'll love it that i will say it'll probably snow i will not guarantee that one but uh yeah so uh that was one of my repairs uh second thing is i brought back alien star from the beast it's been wrapped up this whole time and one of the pop bumpers died the upper pop bumper so i get back to the you know check the coil out and coil still fine but i put a new one in there because it cracked off the one end lead i put a new coil in there still was bad luckily somebody replaced the uh the transistor with a newer style uh tip 102 so i pulled out got another 102 ahead and back soldered it on the board and it's working a-okay now so luckily that's up and running uh afm is now completely done uh the clear playfield protector is on. It's been going through the paces. Zach okayed it. And also Mark did for bringing it back into the RPC. And I'm hoping by the end of the week it should be back in there. It's a lot slower though, unfortunately. That plastic protector does slow the machine down a little bit. And that one was the fastest AFM I ever played. I think a lot of people said that. So we'll slow it down a little bit. I think it's going to take either T3 will take Monopoly's place for now because I have to bring Monopoly to my company picnic in two weeks. Oh, man. Okay. I have to bring Monopoly because they're like, oh, we want to bring a – can you bring a pinball machine, Bruce? I'm like, I can bring one. Like, what do you have? I'm like, I know what I'm going to bring. They're like, what are you going to bring? It's family fun. It's Monopoly. They're like, oh, perfect because they're afraid to get like, you know. Playboy? Yeah, or something corny like where it says, like, Minio Madness. Who the fuck are you? You've got a nine-year-old kid looking at it like, huh? We don't need that. So I'll pick Monopoly. It'll be a fast, easy, fun game. You know. World Cup Soccer would work too. It would. It would definitely. A couple other games like Batman 66 would. The corniness, that would work really well too. But I was thinking Monopoly for the first. So that's going to be my next thing. And then I'm going to bring home a couple more games. And Zach's kind of mad at me. Okay. Because I want to bring home some good games, too. He's like, I'm like, I want to take home stars. He's like, you can't take home stars. Like, I want to take home stars. I want to take home stars. You need a second stars, obviously. I did have one at one time, and I sold it to Mark, thinking Mark was going to keep it, and he didn't. He sold it. Oh. So shame on Mark. Oh, yeah. Shame on Mark. I agree. I'm not. I'm not. I am judging. That's just. I know. I know. I would, too. But so I want to take my stars out. And he was actually like, oh, come on. Don't take that. I said, plus, I'm going to probably take Alien Star. He's like, what? Like, he goes, that one's not as bad because I have one at home. Like, really? And then he was mad that I took Dragon Fist. So he's like, he's like, you're going to take all your good games. I'm like, yeah, I think I'm going to have that. So and then I'm going to set up Torpedo Alley. Good job being a team player. Yep. Torpedo Alley, and I'm going to get that down here. And then go from there. Hopefully get with a time machine going to be there at least. It's still in the back. It hasn't been approved yet for all the people because we have to replace the coils. The flipper coils are a little eh. Okay. Game over. Shoot again. Game over. Shoot again. Wait a minute. That's kind of confused. What does it say when it does that? When it does that. Is it like an extra ball? Yeah. If it says something, shoot again. Yeah, I know. Somebody else tell us on the chat. They'll pop on. And other than that, then repairs, just a couple quirky things like Star Trek Opto on my LE Star Trek. Once in a while, it just gets misaligned a little bit. So what we did is wedge some foam in between the opto and the ramp and straightened it out. So hopefully it'll be a little bit better this time. If not, I'll put a piece of rubber in there just to wedge it. And that's about it at the RPC. I wasn't there this much this week. The Rochester Pinball Collective? Yes, where is that? Located at 349 West Commercial Street, East Rochester, New York. Suite 2965. so you thought we were not going to mention it we got the bathroom code uh one two three four five yes dammit that's the same code as my luggage all right are you ready for the mail ball bag i am ready for the trademark trademark original podcast incorporated llc yes uh ball bag this one is from john hi john is a subject is an incessant craigslist ad okay hey boys first slam tilt pinball podcast is the podcast that i most look forward to keep up the great work thank you ron don't worry about editing i'm not bruce don't worry about being edited he's not yeah fuck yeah second here in the pacific northwest we have been plagued for months with a craigslist i can't say craig craigslist ad for an aspen pinball being posted at least twice a week. That's hot. I'll leave it to you to click the link below and see the asking price. I've let the seller know that the game is complete dog shit and worth maybe $400. And another local pinhead has even posted an ad using the same photos and a screenshot of the pin side value to warn people what a ripoff this thing is. Here is the ad. Let's see. We've got a screenshot. Is the glass off, Ron? This posting has been flagged for removal. Oh, shit. So, yeah, I can't see it. Is the glass removed? I can't tell from the one picture. What do you mean you can't tell? You've got to tell me the glass is removed. It's from the very top. The coils are in that game. And to save you some work, here's the screen grab of the Pinside info page. Yes, it's by the vaunted Brunswick Manufacturing Company. Mm-hmm. Of Walla Walla, Washington. I wonder, did they say people make bowling balls? Yes, and bowling centers. Ah, interesting. They made a pinball machine. They made a woody. Maybe you can mention this on air to warn both your vast audience away from purchasing it as well to hopefully give the seller a realistic expectation of what to try to sell it for. Simply shame the seller to never posting it again. He's stupid. Well, we did. We used our inside influence and just got it taken right off the craze. Flagged. Flagged. Flagged. On flipping. John, a proud STD from Seattle. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Have fun flagging again. Have fun flag again. All right. Archive that sucker. All right. This one's from Chase. Hey, Chase. Playing catch up. I like mustard. No, I like catch up. Hi, Ron and Bruce. I just have a couple of comments based on the last couple of episodes. Okay. Firstly, Ron mentioned that he looked into the Elvis LGBTQ thing from the story I told on the previous Clusterfuck and came up empty-handed. That's when basically the location of people are complaining about Elvis. It made me realize I probably didn't explain the details of that story very well. So allow me to clarify. But though the game was located at a gay bar, the issue the clientele had, to my memory, had nothing to do with anything Elvis said about the gay community, but they believed him to be racist. Racist! To my knowledge, this is a criticism he's received before due to the musical stylings being very similar to what a number of black artists had done. Yeah, cultural appropriation, I believe is the term, had done previously with nowhere near the mainstream success that Elvis had. And because he never gave credit to those inspirations, just thought that it was worth clearing up. I didn't want to be putting any words in people's mouths. I mean, if they're going to do that, they better protest Led Zeppelin if it's there. Yes. I mean, for those who don't know, Led Zeppelin, like their first album that might have one original song on it, everything else is ripped off from other artists. And most of them were like old blues artists, black blues artists. It was very blatant. the funny thing it was all on youtube and then half the shit got pulled down because of the copyrighted music that they ripped off but yeah it was pretty bad uh see also the question was posed on the most recent episode of whether the arcade edition of harry potter is as skittles skittlesy as the upper trim levels we were lucky enough to get one on location here and i can confirm it's just as much of a rain view rainbow puke fest as guns and roses was At least it shoots far better than that absolute mess of a game. Hope all is well, Chase. Thank you, Chase. I had to mention the Led Zeppelin thing because, you know, that's T.L. This is like favorite band of all time. Who? Exactly. Yeah. Let's see. We have one from Corey. This is a game. Hold on. I got one question for you. Okay. Before we go to the next question. I don't think we've ever copied from them. because why would we? Copy from who? Exactly. Exactly. Hi, Ron. Okay, so I think this is all about the game. So we're going to have to save this one. So now we have a game. We have this one and Dr. John's game saved. Jesus fucking Christ. They better not be 30 minutes. They're over 10, 15 minutes. We end the game right then and there. Well, a lot of it is how I screwed up on the last one. Well, we know. The next one's from Tom. Hey, Tom. It says to pro or not to pro. That is the question. Good afternoon or evening, fellas. This episode of Make It Pro should be interesting. Make It Pro, number one. Oh, God. Remove three mechs or features from the following. Oh, man. Phantom of the Opera. I don't even remember what the hell's in that. It's got that stupid. It almost has the ramp from like. It's got the play field that goes up. Yeah. Yeah, like the Valley when we have Cybernaut. Oh, man. And also Batman does too. Hold on. You think about it. I got to look up the picture here. I have to look at the picture too. I don't even remember what's in that game. Let's see. Data East. Please come up immediately. It did. Thank God. All right. Isn't this exciting? Let's see. Play fail. Oh, there we go. Take out the stereo. Right at the bat. Boom. The stereo? It's stereo sound. Oh, yes. Yes. Take out the stereo. Make it mono. Get rid of those solid-state flippers. Oh, Jesus Christ. We're really going to the bottom of the barrel trying to figure out what to remove. You don't want that warranty money. We don't want warranties coming back to us. Don't use that Paul Faris art, which is probably the best part of it. Get a cheaper art. I mean, there's not a ton on it. Colored ramps. We get rid of the colored habit trails. Yeah, okay. So they're not colored anymore. Yeah, they're not. Yeah. We just chrome habit trails. Yep. And. I can't even get pictures coming up. I don't know. Remove a pop bumper. It doesn't have a lot in it. It's got a ramp and that gimmick on the right. Yeah. Actually, does it have? We get rid of the alphanumeric. We just make it regular numbers. There you go. Wow. We really made this game suck. That game sucks. Oh, God. All right. Star Wars Episode I. Remove the lightsaber. Yes. Totally. Remove the TV screen. Just make it a regular? No. Come on. It's a Pitbull 2000 game. It's got to at least do that. Didn't it have the push button? That had auto plunger, didn't it? No. Or no. No, it's a John Papadiuk. He never uses auto plunger. That's right, yeah. Change it out. Change it out because that costs more money, that plunger. Just put a button. Yep, button. That's two. Ugh. The games. Oh, the side buttons. We don't need those secondary side buttons because that game didn't use those. Remember the buttons had the two buttons on the side? Oh, yes, yes. That game didn't use it. No, it didn't use it. It only used it in Revenge. Revenge for Mars? Okay. For the missiles. It didn't use it in. All right. We made it pro. Made it pro. Elvira, House of Horrors. Oh, God. Get rid of the jumpy, jiggly men. or wait a minute they're in house of horrors yes aren't they the house or oh wait a second that's a stern one yeah okay no okay uh god i mean you need the the mansion that's the whole gimmick yeah that's the whole gimmick um i don't even know how to it doesn't come with shaker came with a shaker didn't it doesn't have a ton of stuff on it it came with a shaker right uh let's see i gotta Look at it again. El Vi. You see the preparation, folks. Or lack of it. Of Horrors Pinball. Hey. Let's see. Give me a play field pick. Give me a pick. Give me a pick. Break me off a piece of that. There we go. Let's see. Okay. Remove the gargoyles. It's got gargoyles that don't really do anything. I don't think they move. They're just sitting on top of the stand-ups. Just remove them. Useless. Don't need them. So that's one thing. What else can we remove? Let's see. The dead head. Looks like there's a skull. Oh! Remove the spinner. Don't need it. Who needs a spinner? there's really not a lot on here when you look at it it's all in that that haunted house in the back is everything and you can really i guess what you can do is in the haunted house in front of the lock looks like from the picture there a drop target Just remove that I think that's about it. Yeah, I've only played this game a couple times, so I couldn't really. I can't even say, like, remove the drops for stand-ups because on the side they're stand-ups. Yeah, they're stand-ups. I can't even say that. Yay. Yeah. All right. And for the bonus, make it premium. We have to make a game premium now. The Beatles. At a ramp? At a ramp. But where? It can't be that vague. A folding up and down ramp that feeds back down to the in lane. Like a whirlwind. you know it pops up and down so it's in the orbit an up down ramp yes yeah up down ramp okay it feeds to the right uh right flipper so you can do it again and again if you have to for some super or something like that okay okay uh what else uh we actually had an lcd screen with uh it has Awesome artwork. It has an LCD screen. Well, we put her on it. Okay, yeah. Let's figure it out. There's something else. We actually integrate it fully with the Sea Witch motif instead of just having the Beatles playing Sea Witch mode. Like a totally different game. But it does, you can do Sea Witch. Yes, you're playing Sea Witch, but it still has the Beatles in the background on the LCD. So we change it to have a Sea Witch on it? Yes, and all special rules and that kind of stuff, like showing off the power of Sea Witch with Oliver Gower. Showing off the power of Sea Witch, okay. And a multiball, multiball with Sea Witch also. Well, it already has a multiball, but. But not in Sea Witch. Okay. That's what I'm saying. We make it a Sea Witch because you have that lock on the side. We make a little post that stops it, and then you plunge the second ball, and then a post comes down, and then you have a two-ball Sea Witch. Man, Tom, these were hard. Yeah. Let's see. Next one here. Next one. I think we added enough. That was good. It would be interesting. Who are you casting as the sea witch? Or are you just making graphics that look like the sea witch? Like a cartoon sea witch. Okay. Yes. Okay. Hi, I'm the Sea Witch. This is from Corey. It says, hello, Ron and Bruce. Long-time listener, first-time caller. I operate London Pinball. London or London, Ontario? London, Ontario. Okay. I know what London Pinball is. A small business that does house calls around southern Ontario repairing pinball machines. I started doing this part-time in 2008 and went full-time in 2022. Business is very good. Oh, my God, you guys have a lot of customers. Yeah, business is very good, and I'm on the road or in the shop fixing games every day. Occasionally, I document the things I've repaired on Instagram or on my YouTube channel. Just search for London Pinball. More on that later, actually. When I'm on the road, I love consuming the Slamtail Podcast. and Ron's other podcast, Silver Ball Chronicles, which can be found at www.silverballchronicles.com. And wherever fine podcasts are offered. Ron, I'll let you plug it twice this time. Ah, you let me plug it twice. What are you going to let me plug twice? The Silver Ball Chronicles. Thank you, yes. If ever your listeners are passing through London, Ontario, I encourage them to check out the London Pinball Parlor at Forked River Brewing Company. It's sort of a pinball collective, although not nearly as amazing as the Rochester Pinball Collective, located at 349 West Commercial Street, Suite 2965 in East Rochester, New York. We have 11 machines on location. They're ranging from the 70s to the present day, and the mix of games changes regularly. You'll be happy to know that there is often a classic stern in the lineup and an awesome Gottlieb System ADB. We currently have Victory, which is a truly awesome machine, and not just for the car machine guns on the back glass. I'm always very interested to hear about the repairs you guys perform on your machines. Well, you heard some earlier. Yes. If ever you're looking for a repair content, I'll be delighted to discuss the things I encountered that week in a concise and reasonable way. Come and post it up every week, Josh. Sure. Anyway, keep up the good work, and please never grow up. I, for one, appreciate the potty humor and juvenile antics. Fuck yeah! With love and hugs, Corey. Thank you, Corey. I have a story. Here's a story of a man named Ron. London Pinball, back when I was newer in the hobby, when I first started getting the classic stern itch, if you will. Wasn't that the crabs? I looked for videos of classic stern games. and not surprisingly there wasn't much out there uh but on london pinball on youtube he would have and this this is like mid-2000s stuff like cheetah you know lightning like a lot of classic stern games it's like one of the few channels i ever saw that like at all and this is like in the days where all the videos had to be like 10 minutes you know so to be like you know cheetah part one cheetah part two or whatever oh yes um yeah so there's a connection there little did i know he was a listener or would become a listener it's a small world in the pinball world isn't it round about but yeah that's like probably one of the first cheetahs i saw was on his channel and it got the itch for you or is that the crabs ah poor okay uh this is from cole hi cole the subject is war is declared oh boy yeah i think i know what this is about hey there generals ron and bruce since the moose knuckle canuck and criminal from down under have declared war with their last so-called podcast, you should make them live up to their name and make it the actual final round. Talk about a true DPX. They stole so much you would think they have a shrine. Okay, let me try that again. They stole so much you would think they have a shrine to Robert Mueller and J-Pop. I've never seen or heard such penis envy in my entire life. Wow. This cannot stand. Bruce, you should be even more insulted as you help that useless neighbor up north with his tournament. And this is the thanks you get? You should just pimp slap him the next time you see him while yelling America. America! Don't worry, since he's most likely French-Canadian, he is part cheese-eating surrender monkey and won't do anything. You know what? I got a lot of French guns for sale. Really do. I have a lot of French guns for sale. Never used, only dropped once. Never used, dropped once. Yes, yes. in fact he will probably start speaking german as for his sidekick what can you say coming from a place that was founded as a penal colony he is all you know he's a penal colony he is already fucked up he probably thinks he's safe being that far away but he doesn't realize the power of ron and bruce's stds not only that they will now have to feel the full fury of zach and pinball princess You could copy their show, but why do a shitty one and ruin yours? You just keep doing what you do and be ass themselves, which makes the show great. While it was funny, we all know who the true kings are. Super Bowl Chronicles, which can be found at 349 West Commercial Street. I didn't know that's where it could be found. And beautiful East Rochester, New York, Suite 2965. Got to play some more Harry Potter and King Kong at our local venue. Okay. Okay. Harry Potter is a fun shooting game, and I'm liking it. But holy shit, that shot back and forth from the Death Eater or whatever it's called is no joke. It fires it back as fast as the war machine or rocket kickback. You better be ready. Kong is just another Elwynn masterpiece. It is so much fun to play and shoot. Every shot feels good. Even not knowing the code, really. I just enjoy the hell out of playing it. The one in our spot is a premium, and I can't help but thinking, is it me, or does the spider look like it's humping the ball? It's humping the ball. I can only hear Bruce's voice, like he's emptying his ball bag, going, there you go, when the spider gets the ball. Now try and get that out of your head. One of your faithful, who strength the Kool-Aid, STDs, Cole. Thank you, Cole. Wow, we don't even need to say anything about the final round. Our listeners do it for us. Our listeners do it for us, man. This next one's from Jim. We got a lot in the ball bag, if you haven't noticed. It's full, baby. It's all full and emptying right all over you. Subject, Pinberg 2025. Oh, okay, yeah. He sent us the make a bank of all Gottliebs. This time, if you were to create a Pinberg bank for a classic Stern, Sega, Data, East Modern, Stern, so those games, what would be your list of games? His would be, his EM would be pinball, early solid state quicksilver, Aflo Numerica's Robocop, and DMD Iron Maiden. Okay. So what would yours be, Bruce? Disco. For EM? Okay. Yep, yep, because you've got to be different. Don't forget this is pinball, so you've got to be different and oddballish. Okay. So you do a little bit of disco, then you go right into Ted Nugent, Oh, Jesus Christ. You got to add the Wango Tango. You see where I'm going with this? You see? Yes, I do. Okay. What's the music based alphanumeric? ACDC. Oh, no. We're going to go ACDC. We're going to go a little newer. Okay. It's a DMD. Okay. I know. Yep. And then afterwards, we're going to have a little bit of Led Zeppelin. See? So we're going to do the whole gamut of music. There's no alphanumeric there, though. They didn't make a rock one for alphanumeric. Time Machine. not really pinball that sounds good I'll stick with pinball early solid state meteor alphanumeric I kind of like his Robocop pick I do too I like Secret Service also or a little bit of you know good corniness modern actually DMD is considered modern, so Lethal Weapon 3. Oh, okay, so, sorry. I didn't know that. There we go. Everybody dance now. No, it's... Everybody dance now! Let's see. Just one more. And the other one I actually have to answer. I probably don't want to say that one on the air. Let's see. Okay, this is from Sean. He has a spinner question. Okay. Spinners. I'm going to read this just like it's written here. Long time listener and actually like the repair section. I sometimes learn dialed in and Star Wars are great. Okay, quite a bit. I do, however, have a question as Ron seems to. Oh, I get it. Dialed in and Star Wars are great are between each line. Isn't that great, Bruce? Dead silence. I can't really read it that way though It'll make no sense A long time listener and actually like the repairs section I sometimes learn quite a bit I do however have a question as Ron seems to be the world expert In a spinner juicing Can you discuss the various Manufacturer spinners and their abilities to be juiced For example I have a skateball And I've spent quite a bit of time fiddling And I've only got up to about 7 or 8 spins With this spinner Let's see how many spins can I expect to get if I have it dialed up the best I could. It depends on a lot of things. Also, position. Yeah, position. Where it is on the play field. First, did you have the bushings still? Everyone forgets about the spinner bushings. The spinner bushings? What does that mean? Those plastic pieces. I don't think they're called bushings, but yeah. I think they are, actually. They're called bushings? I think they are. Hold on. The little parts that go on the actual spinner, on the wire, the little white nylon pieces. You go ahead and look up what those are. I am. But, yeah, you want those on there. The thing is, a lot of it is under the play field, not above the play field. People forget about. Yeah. Like, if you take a spinner and just don't – take a spinner and take the arm off of it. It goes underneath the play field, and just see how it spins. Try to get that spinning good. If you get that spinning really good, and then you put the arm on underneath to the leaf switch, and then it spins like shit, you've got to do some adjusting there. you can adjust position like where the, the, the arm goes through the hole in the play field. You can literally, a lot of times that the leaf switches usually have a lot of play. You can move them quite a bit and just play with it until you get, you know, the best spin you can get. But the basic stuff is like where the spinner mounts the bracket, just make sure it's not bent to shit, that it's actually, you know, even and straight all the way through. So the thing's not sitting cockeyed. sand down the uh the spinner the wire so it's as smooth as possible then you put the lube on it which i just use the teflon lube the shit the rod is straight also yeah not bent the shit lasts forever i've had the same tube since i started in this hobby 20 plus years ago and it's still like probably three quarters full you don't need a lot of the the stuff and it's just just time work with it and a lot of times it's it's a location like on skateboard where's the spinner that's up that's up the play field quite a bit so yeah you're never going to get as many spins as something that's lower like the the best ones i have right now are probably on quicksilver especially the one on the left that thing's just ridiculous like 80 spins stuff like that oh and by the way there is called the thingy spinner bushing not the thing we were talking about but but there is a spinner bushing. Okay. What was the thing you were talking about? I don't know what they're calling. Okay. But what holds the rod on the spinner? Well, it keeps it centered. Yes. It keeps it centered so it doesn't go all over the place. Falling off and then not giving you so many good spins. Yes. The other thing I'd say is, I'm assuming leaf switch here because if it's an older game, when you get micro switches, it's never going to spin quite as good because there's more tension. But when you've got the leaf switch, try to set it so when it contacts, how do I determine? What are the terms? There's the actuator and the blah, blah, blah and the whatever. Basically, the one that the rod is connected to that's going up and down, make it so it just barely touches the other switchblade and moves it just a little bit, just a little bit. because you want to have as little tension and resistance as possible. So if you make the switch so it's super close together, so as soon as the spinner starts spinning, it engages the other switch blade, you're already slowing it down. Like I said, a lot of the spin is under the play field. It's not on top. So if you really want to just try not putting the rod that goes through the play field, Start without that and just get it spinning good on its own. And then put the rod on and then adjust it. So let's see. P.S. Dialed in and Star Wars are great. No. They are. No. Thank you, Sean. I love spinners. Spinners are great. And not all my spinners are wonderful, like the cock spinner that's on my Dragon Fist. It's like a Williams spinner, so it's not – it doesn't spin quite as good. That's like a stern spinner. Did we determine the stern ones are a little heavier? There are weights out there that tell you each. Yeah, they seem to be a little on the heavier side. For whatever reason, that seems to make it seem better. But some of the Gottliebs are even heavier than those, and you can make those spin just as good as my freaking Alien Star rocks. Yeah, the sparkly Gottlieb spinners are pretty good. I call them sparkly because they've got the decal on there. Yes. That was the end of the ball bag, Bruce. Is it empty? It's empty. It's empty. Okay, good. I think that's it. Man, I didn't think it would be that long an episode, but it's still like an hour and a half. Yep. See, I get you working. You get me working. Yes. Always working. Always working. Down in the street. Always working. Anything else, Bruce? I'm looking for the spacers. Now you got me fucking. He's going to be looking, looking, looking. I'm going to the Stern parts catalog. I don't think they're called spacers either because that's not what they are. What would you call them? That is a great question. What would you call them? Ah, see? I'm waiting. They're discs. They're like little, tiny nylon discs. Well, look them up. You look them up at the same time. No, I'm good. I'm good. I'll do my plugs now. Why don't you do your plugs while I'm waiting for this. Well, I did Silverbell Chronicles twice, so we're all set there. But we are the Slamtail Podcast, and this has been episode 255. You can check out our website at www.slamtiltpodcast.com. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner, including our Twitch link, where we'll be streaming the upcoming Stomp Tournament. And it's going to be great because my internet was upgraded. I have almost 40 meg upload now. So the stream should be just golden, as Bruce would like to say. Woo-hoo! Yes. our email address is slamtelpodcast at gmail.com that's slamtelpodcast at gmail.com I should have gave like final rounds email address instead you should have who? they probably don't even know what their own email address is they probably don't they are pretty stupid there Bruce said that not me that wasn't Bruce okay that was Stewie yes oh that deal did you hear a stewie impersonation oh my god it was the worst thing i've ever heard i wanted to form a doll over myself seriously oh my god it was bad uh it was bad hi to everyone in our clusterfuck okay the partner i found ah oh you found it i found the partner so i was gonna look it up on marco oh jesus christ you're gonna make me continue to kill time. Yep. Keep on killing. Okay. Disney sucks. I hate Disney. They ruined all franchises. Yankee sucks. Washer, nylon, spinner. Yeah. That's what it's called. Washer, nylon, washer. Nylon washer for spinner. Okay. Yes. It is 4A-181-2. Yeah. And they are out of them right now at Marco. But you'll probably find them somewhere else. Like I said, the Yankees suck. I would like them to not suck. Oh, they suck so bad. I got to hear the fucking redheaded bastard up in fucking Canada yap about the fucking Toronto Blue Jays all the time and Detroit Tigers. So, oh, my God. Is Toronto any good? Toronto's ahead of the division. Ah, okay. So you guess who I got to hear? Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap. Okay. But, yes, like I was saying. Some redheaded flapper head. Cluster Valk, fun with bonus. pinball princess hello yes i think that isn't that the pinball prince and oh god yes they called and we had they have their own zach which i feel bad for them on that one seriously folks listen to the latest episode of the final round you will find it amusing yes you will lots of deep cuts on there okay we done bruce we're done all right until next time say goodbye bruce goodbye christy Louise? Meteor Level Zero Clusterfuck George Takei Timballs Bruce Sissons Tournament Talk Carholer Cheetah Xanadu Cash Grab ELO Ball Break What You Buy It Game You Love Game You Hate Tournament Talk Pinball Princess Sir Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. They also have another version of that washer, just to say to everyone, is 03-7796. And they have that at Marco for 39 cents each. Okay. Yeah, I think there's two different sizes. Yes, .007 and .004. Go for the .007 because it will be bigger.