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Tribe Multiball with Rachel and Tim: Episode 6, 25,000 Imported Italian Twinkle Lights

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·May 16, 2021
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TL;DR

Tribe Multiball ep6: Billy YJ discusses his collection, Atlanta venues, and podcast role.

Summary

Tim Dan Lee and Rachel host Billy Yeager (Billy YJ) on Tribe Multiball, discussing personal pinball achievements, his 4-game collection (Meteor, Taxi, two Avengers), the Atlanta pinball scene with three main locations, and Billy's behind-the-scenes content contributions to Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Tim reveals he ordered Star Wars: The Mandalorian and appeared on Loser Kid Pinball Podcast. The group discusses league play, competitive pinball culture, and upcoming Pinball Expo attendance.

Key Claims

  • Rachel scored 37 points in Sam May League front half, her best league night ever with four firsts and three thirds

    high confidence · Rachel speaking about her recent league performance

  • Tim ordered Star Wars: The Mandalorian pinball after recording an episode with Loser Kid Pinball Podcast

    high confidence · Tim announcing his new game order and Loser Kid appearance

  • Billy's first pinball machine was a Meteor purchased end of 2018, followed by five total machines with one (Baby Pac-Man) sold

    high confidence · Billy describing his collection history

  • Atlanta has three main pinball locations: Portal Pinball (Kennesaw, 25-30 games), one at Mall of Georgia, and one in Decatur

    medium confidence · Billy describing Atlanta venues; some location details uncertain

  • Billy has both the original Stern Avengers (Hulk edition) and the new 2024 Stern Avengers displayed side by side

    high confidence · Billy discussing his Avengers collection

  • District 82 has 103-105 playable pinball machines and charges $20-25 for all-day play

    high confidence · Rachel and Tim discussing District 82 pricing and game count

  • Portal Pinball in Kennesaw offers all-you-can-play pricing ($8-20 hourly options) and features both modern and classic machines

    high confidence · Billy describing Portal Pinball business model

  • Rachel had nine women in a league with ~57 total players, representing a rare occurrence of all-female pairings in top groups

    high confidence · Rachel discussing her recent league night demographics

  • Billy contributes content and release information to Poor Man's Pinball Podcast website, primarily tracking Stern announcements

    high confidence · Billy describing his podcast role

Notable Quotes

  • “I rode the struggle bus most of that league night. The struggle bus, man, it was bad.”

    Rachel @ early in show — Colloquial expression of league difficulty; relatable to casual players

  • “I'm very appreciative that they had me on the show and we talked a little bit of Tribe Multiball on the show as well.”

    Tim Dan Lee @ mid-show — References Loser Kid Pinball Podcast appearance; establishes cross-podcast visibility

  • “I was like, yeah but do you have both of them and he was like yeah sure do and i was like nice i didn't know that so that makes three now”

    Billy Yeager @ mid-show — Notes that at least three collectors own both old and new Avengers machines side-by-side

  • “It's just one of those games where, and that's why I like Avengers is just because you can play and do it differently every time.”

    Billy Yeager @ late-show — Game design observation: Avengers' replayability vs. Taxi's repetitiveness

  • “Unlike some host of a show we all watch, I do not suck at pinball. And I could play for five to ten minutes on a dollar.”

    Tim Dan Lee @ mid-show — Self-deprecating humor; likely jabs at another podcast host's pinball skill

  • “I got a Taxi. So I went and hauled a Taxi home, which is an amazing game. It's just simple but still has a ton of character in it.”

    Billy Yeager @ early-mid show — Demonstrates value placement on classic EM/WPC games; character over complexity

  • “My definition of that is rubber's cleaning. I've got a plastic set. One of the ramps is busted, so I've got some ramps.”

    Billy Yeager @ mid-show — Describes typical restoration work on older machines; DIY ethos

  • “The key, I will tell you, if you're in league and you're not playing a Keith Elwin or even an Eric from District 82... if you get one or two portal locks and you do the yellow gem, you get two 2x multiplier or 3x multiplier”

Entities

Tim Dan LeepersonRachelpersonBilly YeagerpersonJosh RooppersonPoor Man's Pinball PodcastorganizationLoser Kid Pinball PodcastorganizationPortal Pinballvenue

Signals

  • ?

    product_launch: Tim Dan Lee ordered Star Wars: The Mandalorian pinball; entire family excited about announcement; first pre-release purchase without playing first

    high · Tim: 'I put an order in' and 'my daughter wife and two boys texting me are we going to get it'; 'first time I'm really ordering a game without playing it'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Atlanta has three operational pinball venues with all-you-can-play model; District 82 recognized as premium destination with 103+ machines

    high · Billy describing Portal Pinball, Mall of Georgia location, Decatur location; Rachel and Tim praising District 82 variety and pricing ($20-25 all-day)

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Rachel achieved 37-point league night (best ever) with 4 first-place finishes; Billy strategic in venue selection to avoid state champion competitors

    high · Rachel: '37 points... had my best, yeah, I had my best league night last night ever'; Billy: 'the state champion goes to for league. So I don't really feel like getting my butt kicked all night'

  • ?

    collector_signal: Billy Yeager owns both original Stern Avengers (Hulk edition) and 2024 Stern Avengers displayed side-by-side; at least three known collectors doing this

    high · Billy: 'I ended up convincing my wife to let me get the new Stern Avengers from last year. So I've got that one decked out. It's sitting right next to the Hulk'; notes Travis Murray and at least one other collector also have both

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Billy performing active restoration on Taxi (rubber cleaning, plastic replacement, ramp repair, NVRAM install, LED display upgrades); investment of couple hundred dollars to return to normal market value

Transcript

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0:00
Hey, Poor Man Tribe and listeners, this is Glennie Rogers, and you're listening to the Tribe Multiple Podcast with Rachel and Tim. Poor Man Tribe's the thing, that is who we are. It and Drew. They're not in this thing, so how could it go wrong? Flip away with us, to an old blockade, and then we'll learn about each other. From two pennants to another Rachel and Tim, who do we have on the show today?
0:41
Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Tribe Multiball with Rachel and Tim. I'm Tim Lee and I'm here with my co-host Rachel Lilge. We have a special guest coming up for you. We're excited about it, but first, let's just kind of jump into our personal pinball news. So, Rachel, your life's way more exciting when it comes to pinball than mine. What did you have going on this week? For sure. I have a couple of things I suppose I catch up on. I should talk about the back half of my April League. The front half, I got 29 points. The back half, do you want to guess how many points I got? 28. My goal is always 30. Always 30. I said 28, so I'm going to go with 28. 28 is correct. So that was pretty good. I rode the struggle bus most of that league night. The struggle bus, man, it was bad. It had some hard games, some bad house balls, things that you couldn't control. But the redeeming factor for the April back half of the league was they do a side tournament. I don't think I've talked about that before, where this game for the side tournament was Sea Witch, and every player gets to play it once. The top eight scores play off another side tournament. So I got into the side tournament and I came in eighth, which I'm okay with that. Too bad there's not IFPA points because that would have been big honking points, but that's okay.
1:56
And then I had May League, front half of May League, last night, which was Tuesday, or, you know, whenever in the pinball universe when this gets released, right? Do you want to guess how many points I had last night? 32. I had 37. Wow. I had my best, yeah, I had my best league night last night ever. The side tournament was a game called Alpha Target, which I did not do well at all. But I was super stoked that I had 37 points. I had four firsts and three thirds. So I felt really on fire. The other neat thing that happened last night, which is really a rarity, I think there was nine women and maybe like 57 players, something along those lines. I had it happen twice where I got matched up with two other ladies and one fella in a four player round. And that happens so rare. And it was great because we were in the top groups, three other or two other ladies and myself. So that was really cool. Let's see. What else? I also streamed with TurboGrafx7 a couple of weeks ago. You should go out to their Twitch channel and check that out. We streamed Diamond Lady. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. Dave and Ryan are super gracious. Dave's a great host. They know so much about pinball. And I feel every time I'm there, I learn something new. and uh dave's collection is really cool it was a really fun time also they're tribe members so it's really fun to hang out with them in that capacity as well yeah they're they're both really good dude but man they're just two great guys and i really like yeah we're gonna have them on the show i i talked it up a little bit to each of them i think they're pretty stoked i know dave wants to get on it will happen i let's see i encourage anybody to go out and check out any of their stream on turbo graphics 7 on twitch let's see i also played finally got to play led Zep, finally. Okay. On location at a brewery. Found the game to be, it was fun. I liked the combos. I like how you build the combos. But I would give the game, like, maybe a six. Because I found it to be a little boring after a while. But maybe I didn't spend enough time on it. I was only there for about a half hour or so. And I think that's about it. I did play at one other little location that does a tiny little league in Plymouth, Wisconsin. and I played with a friend of mine that came down to play, and it was only seven of us. But I ended up winning a leader of fireball coming in second place. So this was definitely the place to play. I don't even know if I should be mentioning that, but I thought that was pretty cool. It was the first time I ever won something like that for coming in second at a little pinball tournament thing. It was fun. That's cool. Congrats. Thanks. I do have a couple other things in the works, but I'm going to save that for our next podcast or podcast, whichever we're a podcast for sure we are we're definitely part of the poor man's pinball podcast universe especially since i had a drink before uh tonight's podcast what about you tim that's enough about me well just real quick on zeppelin i agree with you i had it in my house it's a fun game but i don't know if i would ever own one it's kind of repetitive but the premium is actually a kind of a fun game so i enjoyed the premium but it's a nice location game so i had an interesting week with pinball. I didn't really play a lot of pinball, but I did order a new game. You'll have to listen to a particular podcast to find out what game I ordered, because probably about halfway through the day on Wednesday, my friend Josh Roop asked if I would be on the Loser Kid pinball podcast yesterday and I stayed up very late and I recorded a podcast that went out today with Josh and Scott from Loser Kid. I guess I'll spill the beans. It was totally focused on Mandalorian. I was really happy. Don't know if I did a good job or not, but I enjoyed it. I'm very appreciative that they had me on the show and we talked a little bit of Tribe Multibow on the show as well. So check that out. That was kind of it. You know, that was my week, but I thought that was exciting. I heard that your family is really super excited that it is the Mandalorian. Yes, they are very excited. So real quick, my family has had two really, really good reactions to pinball machines that were announced. My boys went crazy when they announced Hot Wheels, but my entire family went nuts when they announced Mandalorian like daughter wife and two boys texting me are we going to get it are we going to get it are we going to get it so I put an order in that's super exciting have you all watched the show together we have watched the show as a family yes I love that most episodes so they like it they were excited first time I'm really ordering a game without playing it, but it looks fun.

Tim's family (wife, two sons, daughter) are excited about Star Wars: The Mandalorian announcement and requested it

high confidence · Tim discussing family reaction to the game announcement

Billy Yeager @ end-show — Strategic advice for Avengers mode play; references competitive player Eric

  • “I don't plan to be. I'm not much of a drinker. it's the tribe getting together I have a feeling ridiculous things will ensue”

    Billy Yeager @ mid-show — Anticipation of Pinball Expo gathering; tribe culture commentary

  • “I don't really feel like getting my butt kicked all night, every night. So I can understand that for sure but yeah like my brother will come into town occasionally and we'll stay up super late just because he has to beat me”

    Billy Yeager @ mid-show — Demonstrates competitive drive while managing skill-based venue selection

    • District 82
    venue
    Star Wars: The Mandaloriangame
    Stern Avengers (2024)game
    Stern Avengers: Hulk Editiongame
    Taxigame
    Meteorgame
    Baby Pac-Mangame
    Led Zeppelingame
    Sea Witchgame
    TurboGrafx7person/entity
    Keith Elwinperson
    Ericperson
    Pinball Expoevent

    high · Billy: 'rubber's cleaning... I've got a plastic set. One of the ramps is busted... NVRAM installed... LED displays... I've probably put a couple hundred bucks into it that brings it back up to just a normal Taxi price'

  • ?

    content_signal: Tim Dan Lee appeared on Loser Kid Pinball Podcast discussing Star Wars: The Mandalorian; Loser Kid content referenced as major platform for game announcements

    high · Tim: 'I recorded a podcast that went out today with Josh and Matt Scott from Loser Kid' on Star Wars Mandalorian; Josh Roop invited him after asking day-of

  • ?

    community_signal: Tribe members planning Pinball Expo attendance with shared hotel bookings and anticipation of community gathering; exit strategies discussed humorously

    high · Rachel and Billy: 'I will be at Pinball Expo. So I've already booked my hotels. Tim Dan Lee and I are trying to figure out how we can kind of book separate rooms to escape if we need to'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Avengers praised for replayability and varied strategy approaches; Taxi noted as simple but repetitive once mastered; Led Zeppelin found engaging but ultimately boring after extended play

    high · Billy: 'Avengers... you can play and do it differently every time' vs. 'Taxi... you can kind of get bored with Taxi real quick if you are good at it'; Rachel: 'maybe a six' on Led Zeppelin due to repetitiveness

  • $

    market_signal: Billy references availability of used machines via Atlanta distribution list (8,000+ price point for Bab Cats mentioned); indicates active secondary market in region

    medium · Billy: 'I think you sent me like an eight thousand dollar bad cats one time... The Atlanta community is great for buying and selling games. We have a distribution list'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Billy Yeager volunteered as release tracking and news contributor for Poor Man's Pinball Podcast after demonstrating interest; monitors Stern email announcements and cross-podcast content

    high · Tim: 'Scott Ian and Drew just saw that I had a lot of time on my hands... and I like to follow these Stern releases... They were like, you know, I don't really like doing that. So do you mind taking that over?'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Tim Dan Lee purchasing Star Wars: The Mandalorian sight-unseen despite acknowledging difficulty of pre-release assessment; family enthusiasm overrides typical caution

    high · Tim: 'first time I'm really ordering a game without playing it... it's always really hard to project what a game is really like until you actually play it' but ordered anyway due to family excitement

    • 6:48
    I think the resale value on it will still be good either way. Even if it turns out being a real bomb of a game, I don't think that it's going to be. It looks pretty awesome from what I've heard and seen so far, but it's always really hard to project what a game is really like until you actually play it. You're correct on that, Tim. Yep. All right, so you ready to dive into the show today? Yeah, I suppose we can, like, get there. All right. So we have a guest that I'm excited about today. I'm excited about all the guests, but this is a gentleman who I talk to a lot. You know, I am addicted to pinball content, so I know that he's addicted to pinball content because him and I break down every show. You know, we send a message or two back and forth. We somehow both find the time to listen to all the podcasts and the shows, and we enjoy, you know, talking about the good and the bad. And we also enjoy picking on Droney and kind of offline. So I'm going to call him by his stage name. Welcome, Billy YJ. How you doing, Billy? Yay! Hey, guys. Welcome, Billy.
    7:51
    I wouldn't say I listen to as many podcasts as Tim, but I listen to most of the same ones he listens to. We could debate that.
    8:02
    Billy, I don't think anybody in the Poor Man's Pinball Tribe knows your real last name. What is your last name? Billy Yeager. It's funny. They see it, but nobody can pronounce it right. It's very few people that actually pronounce it because it's got the threes as E's in my Twitch name. Interesting. I will have to look at that again. I've noticed your Twitch name looks very different.
    8:29
    Yep. So, Billy, tell us a little bit about yourself, kind of what you do, kind of how you play pinball, and we'll just dive right into it. Oh, man. So I'm actually relatively new to the hobby, so I can't critique games. But you can.
    8:50
    So I've actually so I've been in the hobby since about technically June of 2018. That was when I got my first game. I got a meteor in June of 2018 is my first game. I got a good deal on it. The Atlanta community is great for buying and selling games. We've got kind of like a distribution list that you just send an email out to if you're interested in something or wanting to sell something.
    9:18
    I joined it and saw an email. Somebody wanted to sell it, and I was like, I can afford that. I'm going to buy it. So I went down, hung out with the guy for a little bit. He had a bunch of games in his basement. He had a garage dedicated to restoring them. So it was a lot of fun. And it's kind of been a disease since then. I bought a second one a month after that for my birthday.
    9:43
    Meteor is a great first game. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I mean, it's nothing too crazy. It needs a little bit of work that I just haven't done to it yet. One of the flippers sticks a little bit, but it works. I would love a new playfield for it, But everybody tells me that's the charm in a Meteor is all the raised inserts and things like that. I would agree with that. All right. So since then, though, you've gotten a few pinball machines. Tell us a little bit about your collection. Yeah. So right now I've got a four-game collection. Nothing too crazy. I've had five total. So I've only sold one, Baby Pac-Man. So I got a baby Pac-Man for a screaming deal too and got it fixed up the play field and the pinball part. I just couldn't, I didn't want to deal with the CRT, with the high voltage and things like that. So I pretty much turned around and sold it for what I had in it and got some money back to buy something else. Probably a month after that or probably not even that long, probably a couple weeks after that, I found a really good deal on a taxi. So I went and hauled a taxi home, which is an amazing game. It's just simple but still has a ton of character in it. So it's definitely one of my favorites. The second game that I brought home that I mentioned is actually the original Stern Avengers. Pinball the Hulk LE edition.
    11:12
    Yes. So I'm a big Avengers and Marvel and Hulk fan. And so it was kind of like perfect. I didn't know anything about it when I bought it, really. So after I bought it, I realized people didn't really like it all that much. But, I mean, it's fun. It has some quirks. It has some issues that take some tweaking. But I got most of those fixed. I've got a broken plastic, and that's about it on it right now. I've got a plastic kit, so I just got to rip it apart.
    11:42
    That theme continues with my latest one. And I ended up convincing my wife to let me get the new Stern Avengers from last year. So I've got that one decked out. It's sitting right next to the Hulk LE. Yeah, I was going to say, you ordered Avengers and all the accessories. Yeah, pretty much. I'm still waiting on the shooter knob. Zach, if you're listening, let me know when it's coming. I still don't think they have that. I haven't seen one, to be honest with you. anyone's machine. I think it's like the Jurassic Park one where it's just taken a long time to get it set up. Billy, I love that you bought a game based upon the content because you just love the content. And you're also the second pinhead, if I may call you that. What did you call it? You called yourself that you had a disease earlier, but I think calling you a pinhead is a nicer term. You're the second person that has told me that you have both Avengers side by side. I think that's so awesome yeah i uh when they released it travis murray was talking about on his marv loco podcast or his his uh youtube channel and i was like yeah but do you have both of them and he was like yeah sure do and i was like nice i didn't know that so that makes three now never mind yeah so here's a little trivia avengers was the the old avengers the first turn avengers was the game i was playing the second time I got kicked out of Pinbird, just an FYI. That one's pretty brutal. I watched Bowen play it, and I don't think he got very far on it. Yeah, it was tough. I think they were playtesting when he was playing it, or somebody was playtesting, and I think he got two out of three house balls or something like that.
    13:30
    That's funny. So you had mentioned that you had plastic and such to fix up on Taxi and so forth. Do you like working on games? I do when I have time for it.
    13:44
    Taxi needs a good bit. It just needs to be shopped. My definition of that is rubber's cleaning. I've got a plastic set. One of the ramps is busted, so I've got some ramps. Just fixing the upper side of the play field to make it functional. I don't think there's anything really mechanically wrong with that one. That was pretty good. It needed some board work. I did get some NVRAM installed on it, and I bought some of the LED displays for it. The Pinscore, I think, is what they're called. Yep. LED displays because the main display was burnt out when I got it. So I got it for a good deal, but I've probably put a couple hundred bucks into it that brings it back up to just a normal taxi price. But it's enjoyable. I like doing that kind of stuff Yeah I just played it a couple of weeks ago with my friends and I love the game I tried to buy it off of them It just one of those games like when you play it you don notice it right away It takes you a minute. Like, every time you collect a character, the way they display it on the screen is unique to each character. Like, when you collect Dracula, for instance, the name Dracula, like, drips down like blood on the screen, and it's just they've got a unique way to do that for each of the characters as you collect them so it's just really cool cool the fact so you and i like to exchange scores sometimes what's your high score on oh man um i think it's in this i can't remember it's it's in the it's above six million i think or yeah six million i think i can't remember three or five balls three but i mean with taxi it's it's whatever you cash it's whatever you build that bonus up to and then cash it out so it was just one of those games where i just happened to cash out the jackpot at like three million and then i collected all the characters and it was just one of those perfect games where I was able to do all that and I probably got some kind of special uh mystery award that gave me a good good chunk of I think I've got all of the high scores now on it and it's pretty much nice it's like six million five million four million three million two million like it's it's just whatever the bonus was that day so I don't blow it up like a hundred million or anything like that my buddies was on five balls so we can't we can't compare scores now you had mentioned your collection group the group you belong to in atlanta and you often send me you know um screen caps of something that's for sale that i don't want to afford like a i think you sent me like an eight thousand dollar bad cats one time or something along those lines you found me a few things so talk to us about the atlanta pinball scene you said you know there's i believe you told me there's a lot of new machines offline in a lot of different locations in Atlanta yeah so we have three main locations I might be missing one but so it's kind of and they're all over the place like I kind of make the square like they're kind of a triangle and I make the square corner so I'm about an hour it is the closest away from me so like there's one out at the Mall of Georgia there's one in Kennesaw there's one down in Decatur the good thing is they all kind of have varying games like the like portal pinball is is the one in Kennesaw and it has 25-ish games 25 to 30 depending on on the day and most of the modern sterns jersey jacks and then it's got a whole other side of classic games whether it be WPC or EMs or just early solid state so it's got a good variety and then it's got some arcades in there too so a fun place to go it's a it's an all you can play type plays too which is what I really like because you can pay all day you could pay for an hour you pay for four hours and you don't have to coin drop which is which is nice for me since I'm not a great player and I don't I don't get to experience a lot of games other than that so being able to experience these games as much as I want and not have to pay a dollar every time I want to do it kind of is kind of nice so and then I've got the one that I play league at which is it's a smaller venue so i think that one's got like 10 or 12 games but they they've ranged so you've got mostly newer sterns but there's like an adams family there there's actually a beatles there which is nice that's the where i played beatles for the first time and it's a lot of fun yeah it's uh it's it's fun to play league that was actually where i first experienced i'll say competition but i know that's kind of a joke when it's just leagues and there's we're not in chicago where the league is like the world competitors showing up. But it's fun. It's a good group. They all help you learn the game and kind of show you what you're supposed to do and things like that.
    18:48
    I've been to the third location once or twice just because it's the furthest away. It's like an hour and a half, and it's a coin drop one, so it's a dollar a play at least. But they've got most of the new games. They've got the Chicago Gaming remakes too, so that's the only place I've been able to play those. so I got to play Attack from Mars down there. I think that's the only one they have, but that's actually where I played Stranger Things, Tim. I think I did the three plays for $2 on Stranger Things, and that was over in about 45 seconds. I didn't put any more money in that one. That's a tough game. Well, yeah. It was pretty bad because, of course, I'm an idiot and went straight for the middle shots. But, yeah, I bet it would be fun. And that would probably be one I would really enjoy on free play. I didn't have that much money that day. Can I ask how much the place that charged by hour, how much they charge per hour or by day? I'm just curious. There's a place where one place charges $15 and it's arcade with pinball. And another place that's all pinball, it charges $25. Yeah, District 82 charges $25, right? Plus tax, correct. Yeah, so I think it depends on the day, I think. but I mean I think you can play as low as eight dollars an hour or eight dollars for a couple hours and then it's like 16 or 20 for all day so it's really not bad at all I to be honest I haven't been during this pandemic time just because I don't like having to wear masks for long periods of time so especially I understand that everybody has to go their own speed during during these quote-unquote unprecedented times right well it's not it's not that I don't I mean I wear the mask i just don't like to wear it for long periods of time so i don't necessarily want to get into all that but but yeah i just haven't gone on location for for that reason for a while so i i really look forward to getting back to that but yeah it's a it's a great time doing the all you can play i really enjoy that so yeah i think 20 or 25 dollars is super reasonable for the amount of games that you get to play especially if you're a person that really is into it maybe Maybe not so much if you're an eight-year-old that's not into pinball and much rather play video games or be on their iPad or whatever. But for us 40-something-year-olds, I think we're all having a lot of fun, and that's a cheap entrance fee. I think that's kind of expensive, Rachel, because unlike some host of a show we all watch, I do not suck at pinball. And I could play for five to ten minutes on a dollar. Shut it to them. okay so we all know that was a total lie and that's a great deal for me because like billy i drain very quickly right a variety of games that you get to play it's not just you're going to play like at district 82 you're not just going to play 12 games there's 105 i think that are there 103 that you're able to play and things that you're never going to play anywhere else yeah to be honest district 82 might be a reason why I schedule a second trip up there. Oh, man, I hope you do, man. That would be awesome. You let me know. I'm totally stoked. I want all my tribe people to come up and play. Yeah, it's kind of far away from Chicago, so I don't know if I'll be able to make it on that trip. But I guess that's a plus to the whole pandemic thing is I've got like $700 in flight credits that I've got to use by the end of the year.
    22:13
    Oh, yeah, you can fly into Milwaukee or you can fly into Green Bay. There's other options there. I can help you spend your money. No problem. Exactly. So I'm with you there. So now it's just fun at the time. Yeah, so it sounds like you're going to be at Expo with us. Yeah, I will be at Expo. So I've already booked my hotels. Tim Lee and I are trying to figure out how we can kind of book separate rooms to escape if we need to. We're already planning our exit strategies.
    22:45
    Yeah, that might be tough. You know what doing a Houdini is? A pulling Houdini is, right? Where you're at a party and you're ready to go and you just decide to leave and you don't say goodbye to anybody? Is that what you're planning? Like a Houdini room for you? How else do you handle ridiculously drunk people? Because it's not by reasoning with them. That's a good point. What makes you think that people are going to be ridiculously drunk?
    23:09
    That's silence. I was kidding. I don't plan to be. I'm not much of a drinker. it's the tribe getting together I have a feeling ridiculous notes will ensue I will probably be part of it but I may have to break some of my rules we'll see you're a hugger Rachel we've talked about it I am going to order myself a free hugs t-shirt or something like that we got to come up we got tribe numbers we got to come up with tribe names now Rachel will be the hugger oh i love that i accept you accept i don't i don't know what my name would be i don't know the tuna melt no i hate tuna listen i still think that's hilarious tim the tuna melt that needs scoots if you're listening that needs to be what his sandwich is on the menu i can't wait for that no scoots when i'm down there i can go and try tim the tuna melt lee it makes you feel better Sam, I hate tuna belts too. Oh, I do not like tuna, but I have a feeling that's going to be my sandwich. And I would eat it. I would totally eat it. Just because Scoots is naming a sandwich after me. That's right. There's already a sandwich named after me. There's already a Rachel sandwich. Yeah, you're right. The Rachel. So I'm good. Yeah. What is the Rachel? I don't know. I'm not familiar with that. It's like a Reuben sandwich, but I believe of turkey instead of pastrami. Yeah, it has something else. Oh, but that's good. Yeah. It is good. Anyways.
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    That sounds a little better than the tuna melt. I'm sorry, what, Billy? That one sounds a little better than the tuna melt. Yeah, maybe, maybe. All right, enough about this tuna melt thing, because I was hoping Scoots would have forgot about it and thought that I need to have an Italian sandwich named after me. So, Billy. We'll see. Let's talk a little bit about your behind-the-scenes stuff on the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Can you tell everybody what you do for the podcast? I think what happened was Ian and Drew just saw that I had a lot of time on my hands, I guess. And I like to follow these Stern releases and the pinball releases and post a lot of stuff on the site. They were like, you know, I don't really like doing that. So do you mind taking that over? So that's kind of how it went. And so that's kind of what I do. I just do what I did before. or I just keep posting whatever I see and anything that I find interesting out there. I don't do it a ton, but I do try to do it with the new releases and things like that. Because I get the Stern emails and all that kind of stuff. I don't get it as much with the other companies just because I'm not on their email lists and all that kind of stuff. But Stern is mostly what I get. Going back to the beginning of the show, I listen to a lot of podcasts. So if I hear something, I share it. Yeah, and you share a lot of content on the site. I read it all. And you also provide them with some technical advice from time to time, right? Oh, yeah, with not a ton. When they started doing the live stream, I was talking to them, but I think Chris and Mike Williams have pretty much taken that over from the technical side. Okay.
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    And I think, are you a mod on the Twitch stream? No, I'm not. I don't believe so. They might have made me, and I don't know how to do it.
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    There's not a whole lot to do because, as you can imagine, there's nothing really that anybody would block on their show because it's kind of the sloppiest show on the internet. I'll admit this to you two. I sometimes, like, block Josh Mudd when he's on just to get him going. Like, he'll say something, and I'll delete it, and he'll say it again, and I'll delete it. Just because he's used to it. So that's the only person I've moderated. And I did it on purpose. I feel like I would have fun with that too.
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    Power tripping, Tim. You're power tripping. I've given him like a one to three minute suspension at times. And it's funny because I don't think he knows what's going on. So hopefully Josh Mudd's not listening. He probably is. He does now.
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    Hey, Billy, I do have a question. You said before that you played in league pre-COVID. but do you find yourself to be a competitive player naturally? Or is it something that, oh, that's just a bunch of people hanging out. We're going to have some beers and play. Or what are your feelings on that? Oh, no, I'm a competitive person by nature. So that's, to be honest, it's one of the reasons why I go to the location I do is because the other location, the state champion goes to for league. So I don't really feel like getting my butt kicked all night, every night. so i can understand that for sure but yeah like my brother will come into town occasionally and we'll we'll stay up super late just because he he has to beat me and and if he does then i have to beat him so it's just a back and forth so it's it's fun it's one of the reasons i like pinball because it's it's fun competitive but it's always a good time i mean nothing nothing super competitive that's right you're always having fun and laughing and i guarantee you if you're playing pinball league if you're playing pinball league and not laughing or enjoying yourself or go home and think hey i had a good time tonight you're doing something wrong yep exactly i used to drive straight from work to league go play for two or three hours and then come home so it was it was a great once a night or once a week it was it was definitely i do that i go up to district 82 right after work i leave a little early if such a great employer lets me leave early for pinball league twice a month. I drive an hour and I play, I don't know, from five until whenever I'm tired, maybe 10 o'clock. This past week was 1030. I'm like, oh boy, I got to get going to get home because that's an hour drive home. But it's only twice a month. But I think there's so much joy in doing that Just got to plan accordingly That it Yeah And I know Billy competitive because i sent him my avengers score that i got at helicon and for like three weeks i kept getting his scores until he finally beat mine and then he crushed it so good job billy well it's just one of those games that once you figure it figure it out i mean i by no means have figured out how to get a high score on it but i've gotten a high score for me on it i'll put it that way so i'm watching these streams of people doing Avengers and like a bad game is double my high score. Who cares? I mean, it's fun. You're still having fun. It's one of those things where, and that's why I like the Avengers is just because you can play and do it differently every time. I mean, even if you're going for high score, there's not really, I mean, there's not really one way to get a high score on that game. And that's kind of why I like it. Versus like a taxi, for instance. I mean, you can kind of get bored with Taxi real quick if you are good at it and know what you're doing, because, I mean, it's literally just rinse and repeat. But it's a very simple, enjoyable game. But if you're wanting to play for a long time, do something different every time you play. That's why Avengers is good. When that game comes up, when I have to play that in League or a tournament or somewhere, I'm going to send you a message, Billy, so you can give me the best strategery in order to take a first thought on it. How does that sound? I can get you to 100 million, maybe 200 million. After that, you're on your own. Hey, that's good enough. Sometimes that can just be good enough. You never know. Yeah, I mean, that's true. The key, I will tell you, if you're in league and you're not playing a Keith Elwin or even an Eric from District 82, too. I mean, if you get one or two portal locks and you do the yellow gem,
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    you get two 2x multiplier or 3x multiplier if you get two portal locks before you start it, and then you get the multiplier for the spinner on top of that. So if you complete that mode, you get 50 to 60 million easy. So just for that one mode. So that's really the key for Avengers, is building up your portal locks and getting your multi-ball set and then you go into a portal or you go to a gym mode and that's that's pretty much how you play the game load the gun before you get into a mode yep right and then and then once you start actually successfully completing modes that's when the super tournament advanced strategy comes into play with okay i have these gems now what do i do with them and that's that's really i haven't i've gotten to that maybe one or two games ever so where you get like the mind gym and you put it near a shot like the black panther so on the soul gym you can just hit the the action button and skip that shot and save yourself a flip but oh i didn't know that that's a pro tip right there that's a button but i've only gotten to i think like once yeah that's a carl and ray day and it's i learned that watching those guys you know it's funny that you talk about yeah it's great if you're not playing like with eric who plays you know he owns district 82 and also mr ellman who has coming up to district 82 to play tournament or to play different tournaments so that's a little you know on a whole different level being standing right there and watching some of these i mean and these other folks that came up to play it was really cool yeah i mean that last tournament you guys had was stacked yeah the triple flip that's coming up in june is going to be pretty nuts too also i think he's coming uh raymond davidson's also going to be there i think travis murray and some of his family i think it's also attracted a couple other uh female players to come up from chicago to out of bells and chimes down there so i'm excited about that what about drew we'll see maybe he'll come up and play the classic i hope that he comes up and plays the classics again but again that's not his strong suit so that was you know maybe he just needs to come up them play the friday night before because they're doing like a like a 10 strike knockout or something some crazy tournament format i've never heard of before i don't think that i'm going to play it i think i can still go up there and just play but i don't have to play in the tournament so i might do that because it might be more of a fun social time and i don't know it's a lot with living an hour away and staying the night blah blah blah yeah anyways enough about me well i was just kidding love you drew i just like to pick on him i love you drew and to that tournament did inspire uh if i ever do start streaming my my stream name i'm not going to reveal it here but if i do start streaming it'll it'll be a nice little joke oh okay so you just kind of teased our next yeah that was my transition tim yeah yeah so you got something up your sleeves it Sounds like you might be streaming. Tell us about that. Yeah.
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    Tim and I have been talking about this for a while. We love going and watching the streams just to interact with everybody, and it's a good way to meet people throughout the hobby that are nowhere near you and interact with them on a weekly basis at least. Most of the time it's daily, the way that we join streams. Yeah, Billy watches way too many streams, by the way.
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    So the problem is that a lot of them are not in the Eastern time zone. So that's what kills Tim and I is we're both – we're sitting there messaging back and forth. Are you asleep yet? No, I'm good for another 10 minutes. Exactly. That's exactly how it goes. He'll message me and be like, oh, what did I miss? I just woke up. True story. I was going to say, yeah, we're, uh, I'm, I'm trying to, to get up the courage to spend all that money on, on streaming gear to, to get up and stream. Um, I mean, just as an excuse to play too, right. I've got these, these machines in my basement that I, I do not play anywhere close to as much as I should just because life gets in the way. So if I, my thought is that if I get a streaming setup and and kind of dedicate myself to stream for an hour a week or two hours a week it'll it'll give me a reason to come down here i mean another thought is is just streaming fixing machines i mean nothing nothing crazy but just to interact with with people in the hobby and we've got the tribe i mean the tribe pretty much if if they see somebody in the tribe online they pretty much join just to say hi and talk and stuff like that so it's that's kind of what it's kind of why I want to start streaming is just to start interacting more and in a different way. I think that's fantastic. And I hope that you're able to do that. It is quite expensive to get into it because I also have looked into dipping my toes. What about you, Tim? Well, if Billy does it, I have to do it because we're competitive. So, I took a different approach. I just told Billy this earlier. Yeah, Tim's cheating. Yeah. So I was watching Hup Challenge stream, and they stream from Helicon, and I watch them all the time. So I invited them to my house to stream. And they had said once they are vaccinated, and they just recently got vaccinated, that they would be willing to go, you know, come up and do kind of a test stream for my house. And they know Chris Myers, and I know Chris Myers. So I'm trying to get them to come to my house. So if you know them and you listen to the show, vouch for me. And they said they would. They're great people, two really good people. But they have a portable rack. So I'm trying to get them to come here to see how it goes first. And then I'll probably dive in. Between Billy and Ryan Kuyper, they keep pushing my buttons to make me want to stream. so well and normally i don't even think it would be too terribly expensive um but just with graphics cards are ridiculously expensive right now and that's kind of an important piece if you want a decent looking stream yeah if you want to do it the right way because i mean i've got three out of the four cameras i just need to get a play field camera so it's really just the computer and the capture card that are holding me back at this point go big or go home get it done Yeah, well, we don't need to get too into detail, but like, for instance, Elgato just came out with a capture card for a desktop computer that's like $150 cheaper than it would cost to get for Camlinks, which is what it's got in there. So that's why I really want a desktop because typically you can build a desktop cheaper than a laptop. And then the cam, that new Elgato capture card is cheaper than cam links. So with the graphics card situation right now, it about evens out. Okay. That's just about every industry has something that has skyrocketed in price for some reason or another. All right. So that's cool. I hope you do it, man. I really do. And you know I'll be a big supporter. And Rachel, I know you'll be a big supporter as well. Absolutely. I'd love to support all of our tribe members and whatever thing that they're doing right now. So, Rachel, I got a question. So what do you call, you know, two dudes who constantly talk about all the pinball drama and gossip? Because Billy's like my gossip partner. Like we're constantly talking about the pinball drama and all that stuff. So I think he's, you know, he's my soulmate when it comes to pinball or drama.
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    I don't know what you would call it. I would call it, are you, is it like a soap opera? I refer to it as a soap opera. No, because we're not involved in the drama, but we break it all down. If there's drama, Billy and I are breaking it down.
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    Hmm. It's more like two housewives that start talking about the soap opera. House husbands. Yeah, yeah. that's that's a really good analogy i would say two hens i would call that probably two hens but i like the idea maybe like house husbands that's funny you know or what was um like on home improvement tim and the neighbor what was the neighbor's name wilson like the two of them wilson you could be like tim and wilson just standing over the fence but you know talking about gossiping about maybe improving each other's lives a little bit too over pinball right yep yeah it's more like one of us saw a post that we don't understand and we're like hey what does this mean where did this came from yep exactly i love that we all need to have supportive people in our lives i didn't realize the two of you were so buddy buddy i think that's great i talked to everybody but billy's one of the ones i started talking to billy right away and we talk a lot tim likes to make me feel special like that i think that tim is a very kind and special and caring person i mean he treats everybody like that to be honest not drew all right did you play pinball i didn't ask this question did you play pinball as a child billy or is that something you just got into when you joined that group and purchased a meteor so i i was more of a an arcade guy as a kid like nfl blitz and mortal combat i was a little well past the street fighter days in the actual arcades at least but no actually recently so i got married in 2018 so my bachelor party was in 2017 i think and we went to Asheville for my bachelor party and Asheville is the highest number of breweries per capita so essentially per person they have the most number of breweries in their city and so we were we were there for like five days I think and by the end of like day two we were all pretty sick of craft beer with the amount that we were drinking and so we were in search of a place just to get like a Bud Light. So we were, we were looking for, for places and we just happened to stumble across a pinball museum in, in Asheville, North Carolina. And we walked in and I think it was like 15 bucks for all you can play all day. And they had like $2 Bud Light cans. I mean, it was, so we stayed for like four hours and just drank as much Bud light as we could and played pinball. And that's really where, that's really where I caught the bug was, was there. And that's when, I mean, I had no idea how much they cost or anything at that point. I was just like, oh man, that was really cool. And then I started watching the YouTube videos, TNT Amusements and Straight Down the Middle and all that kind of stuff, just kind of absorbing everything and I'm I'm a hobbyist so that's that's my hobby is to gather gather other hobbies so I I just kind of absorb everything I can about the hobby and that's kind of where I'm at with the the moderator thing too is I just I do that naturally so I've just started sharing it but so yeah I started I started watching all the all the YouTube videos and luckily there was already some content out there by the time I got into the hobby, so I had plenty of stuff to watch. And I found out about Southern Fried Gaming Expo, which is the convention, the pinball convention, or it's actually a lot of stuff. It's pinball, arcades, board games, wrestling, like all kinds of all kinds of nerdy hobbies if you will in one giant expo so i got really excited to go there and it was that was where i bought my my hulk le it's i didn't actually buy it there i bought it about a week later from the guy who had brought it there but it's just great exposure uh to a bunch of different games because i mean they bring i think there was like 250 different pinball machines there so it was it's a lot of fun that sounds amazing it sounds fantastic it's a lot of fun it's uh that first one it was my it's my birthday weekend or it usually is my birthday weekend they've actually had to change it this this past year and but that birthday weekend i was actually on a family vacation to in the mountains and so i i told my wife i was like i will go as long as i allowed to go to the pinball convention she was like yeah that fine You can do that I will be with my family Because we had a three or four month old at the time also
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    So asking to go to a convention for three days was a lot at that point. And so I got to drive two and a half hours from the mountains down to the convention and back home every day for three days just to get to go to this convention. but it was worth every minute. I was exhausted. Me waking up at like 6 in the morning to drive down there to get there by when it opened at like 9 or something like that, and then standing on my feet all day and getting home at about 8 p.m. It was a lot, but definitely worth it. I'd like to check that out. I know you posted it on the Poor Man page. That's the Tribe Meetup South. Nice. Billy, after we're done with our podcast here, you need to go thank your wife again for letting you, or like supporting, I shouldn't say letting, but for supporting you to go do that for three days. That says a lot about your relationship there because that's a lot of time to give to another person to do something, to seek out something and do something that they really enjoy. So that's awesome. I'm going to put a little icing on that cake and it's actually our wedding anniversary right now, today. Oh my goodness. Thank you, Mrs. YJ. You are an awesome lady. thank you very much i feel like i should yell at you though luckily luckily she goes to bed early so i was like tim nine o'clock i can do nine o'clock there you go there's no better anniversary than one spent with tim lee and rachel so yeah exactly um okay if you say so okay spilly you talked about this but i want you to tell us about your other hobbies because you don't just like pinball you got all kinds of crazy stuff going on yeah i'm a uh i'm a tinkerer by by so i just i like getting into things that i can i can mess with uh so that's one of the reasons why i like pinball so much is it's just the tinkering aspect of it so i got a couple different things my my last year's big hobby and actually i kind of stepped away from pinball for a while actually just didn't take it so seriously because I did Christmas lights I'm a big big Christmas guy I think Ian is is big on Halloween I would probably say I'm similar for for Christmas I just get real excited about it and go all out so last year I did a computer programmed light show and you're either going to know about it or you're not going to know about it, what that means. But I had about 2,500 LED RGB lights that was computer programmed to, I think I had like seven songs last year that I had choreographed to the music. So it was pretty fun. That one took a lot of time. I think I started that in August and was still working on it up until Christmas Day. Oh, my goodness. That's crazy. You get the lights up, but all the programming and synchronizing, every week I'd add a new song or work on it. So it's kind of like pinball. Your family goes to sleep, and you go down to the basement and start working on it, and you turn around, and it's 2 a.m. You're like, what happened?
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    Yeah, I understand that. I saw the video, and I'd love for you to post it again after the show because it was fantastic. It made my little string of lights across the front of the house look pathetic, but I was really impressed by it. Yeah, I did that one on – what was it, May the 4th? Because it was the Imperial March song mashed up with Carol of Bells Christmas song. So it was one that I saw on YouTube. There's a guy on YouTube that does these crazy piano mashups to Star Wars songs. It's really cool. And I was like, I like that. I'm going to do that. So I used it. It's cool. He's got a setup kind of like Guitar Hero. It's where it's like as he plays the notes, it's like the Guitar Hero strings that go off of it. So I actually used that for my programming. It made it super simple for the timings and things like that. Awesome. But yeah, I'm a collector too. So that's another reason why I like pinball. You collect and tinker. So I've got a lot of Marvel stuff that I've collected, like the Funkos and just some little collectibles and things like that. Nothing too crazy. I'm with you. I like to collect as well. I actually had a massive Transformers collection. That's why I'm so big on Transformers every time we talk about it. So that's how you afford all your pinball machines. You just sell those off. Well, I sold them years ago to pretty much fund most of my train layout because I still had them sealed in boxes that were never opened. And I sold a bunch to a guy that was an editor for Time Magazine years ago. But that's actually how I got into the hobby. I sold the Transformers to buy the trains and sold the trains to buy the pinball machines. But I'm like you. I have little collections of everything. So how many of the Funko Pops do you have? I don't even know if I want to admit that. Ah, come on. I've probably got 75 displayed in my office, but I probably have a couple hundred more in boxes that I haven't even unboxed in my new house yet. Nice. It was my new house two years ago. What's the most recent one that you obtained? So this is where the addiction for that stopped when I met a girl. so I stopped really buying them once I met my wife mainly because I just didn't have money to spend on it because I was spending it all on a girl but yeah that's a good reason but now she actually gets me uh she has a subscription set up for me where I get uh like a subscription box for the marvel ones every other month or something like that so those are really the only ones I get now like i think i actually got my last box and it was deadpool i i was i was laughing i was going to send it to to ian to put on the on the desk but i never did it right a spare a spare for his machine when his breaks right yeah it's funny it's even deadpool dressed up like a ninja so it would fit perfectly yep all right so what did you talk to greg bone about when he called you want to tell that story yeah so this is uh this is a story i told tim recently so this was This was back in my days of, I might have had my first, my meteor at this point, but it was, it was back when I was watching a lot of the straight down the middle videos. And I had, this was right when my daughter was old enough to start eating real food. And, and so I was in the living room with my daughter watching straight down the middle and my wife called us into the kitchen for dinner. and so I'm walking into the kitchen with my daughter and getting her set up and my phone rings and I don't recognize the number and so I pick it up because everybody picks up on numbers right?
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    Everybody. So I pick it up and I'm not really paying attention because my daughter's running and screaming around my legs and stuff like that and I hear the voice go hey this is Greg Bone what's up? And I go, who?
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    And I go, Greg Bone? I'm like watching you on TV right now. This is really weird. And he goes, no, my name's not Greg. My name's Jeff Bone. I used to work with you, remember?
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    And I was like, oh, I get it now. And he was just trying to sell me financial advice. it's one of those one of those rolodex calls where it's like oh i worked with you like 10 years ago do you want to uh give me all your money yeah i'm sorry but who are we who is greg bone he's the other half of uh straight down the middle with zach minney oh okay i'm sorry you know like again i don't i don't listen to a lot of other podcasts i haven't listened to that one yet it has been recommended to me but sorry thanks you know ricky rachel here that's right check that one out greg she's the tournament player we bring on she brings that aspect all right so rachel do you want to bring us home we're getting towards the end of the hour i'm not allowed to close the show billy i have been banned from closing the show but rachel has a question she likes to ask everyone first yeah billy i'm going to ask you the most difficult question here are you prepared i am like i like to put people off center just a little bit sometimes it's fun you're making me less certain how did you get into the poor man's pinball podcast tribe well after i sent my check i think it was i think it was really i i think it was really just all the annoying posts I did.
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    Now, I sent a couple drink recipes, because I actually started listening a little later, like in probably the 20s episodes. I didn't start right away, but yeah, it was really just interacting. I'd send them messages every now and again. I liked all their stuff, and the usual Facebook stuff. I tried to share as much as possible that I saw around the hobby related to the episodes and things like that. That's fantastic. That is definitely one of the pillars. I think that's pillars one, two, and three maybe. Yeah, I think that could be all three of them. I can't tell you what four and five are. Those are big top secrets right now. The fourth pillar in October because I'm not – well, now I don't know. Can I be considered media now? Yeah, you're media, buddy. Or do I have to actually host this?
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    I guess I'm media too, but I don't really think about myself in terms of being media. And then the check is obviously the fifth pillar, so we got that one. That one was squared away. How much was your check? I don't know if I'm able to disclose that amount. I know it was a lot less than yours. Drew did tell me that. He said that it was the Tim Lee surcharge on your check. Yeah, absolutely. I think I overpaid by a long shot, so I'm going to be asking for a refund. I think I did pay more than some of the other people, but Tim Lee was definitely more than my check. That's great. I paid in hugs you know what that's the higher level currency right now those are hard to come by these days yeah exactly hugs are the cryptocurrency equivalent yes oh yes can a hug please be the new currency on this planet I mean you know when it's safe for everybody to do so I'm vaccinated come hug me you know okay I do want to point this out I noticed that this week and I can't remember who I talked to about this but on the streams in the podcast and stuff, I've heard everybody talking about needing to start a pinball coin or their own specific cryptocurrency or something like that. I was like, you know what? The poor man started it a long time ago. We've all got the tribe coins now, and so those things are going to be worth a ton later. Absolutely. I wonder what the going value on our coin is right now. Priceless. I don't know, man. And, I mean, can you imagine the 001 coin or the 002 coin, whoever's got those? I mean, those are going to be worth a lot one of these days. Oh, yeah. I feel bad for the person that gets tribe number 57 or something then, right? Yeah. M012. Yeah. Rachel, we didn't ask Billy what his tribe number is. I'm a terrible host. Yes. Billy, I do have, I guess, two more questions. One, what is your tribe number? I am tribe number 19, which at the time seemed very far back. and I was kind of discouraged by the large number that I was. But now I've realized it's just a number. It is. A tribe number is just a number that can get you free beer.
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    And form friendships within pinball. Exactly. And free beer. And then my second question is, do you know what your IFPA number is or where you're ranked? I actually don't I don't think I have one so my league it was not IFPA sanctioned before COVID started we were literally that month we were going to be sanctioned a sanctioned tournament so we were all going to have to register with IFPA and start but I do not believe I'm registered currently well it will be very exciting when the world returns right for everyone and you're able to go start playing in tournaments and stuff i'm really excited for you yeah it'll be fun yeah see and that's the thing is i don't know i don't know if i would play in a tournament at a show just because i enjoy the show aspect of it so much but like the stuff that you guys do at district 82 i would do that in a heartbeat anytime the door's always always open for you you let me know when you come up make it a random weekend that's even better. Yep, exactly. Well, that's everything I have. Tim, what about you? That's all I have today, Rachel. Billy, what about you? I'm good. I appreciate you guys having me on. This was a lot of fun. Great. Thank you so much for hanging out with us today. Tim, also, thank you. You're always such a gracious co-host. You're welcome. And, I don't know how to close the show. I still have to come up with our own little thing, but I would just say... I was going to say you guys don't want to copy everybody else and be like, this is Rachel saying night for Tim or whatever. I think people that are listening to us, they know who we are, right? We're like our own little subsection of whatever, of the pinball, for me, I was pinball podcast universe. Yeah. I got yelled at. Cause I just said, we're out. Click. Yeah.
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    How about, how about this time we close it with, Hmm. Be kind to one another and have fun flipping. you